Husband & Wife Hated Tesla Full Self Driving - UNTIL NOW!
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3:24 - FSD 12.3 is like 3rd grade
3:51 - a change in tides
4:51 - Dr. Kim
5:52 - "I would gun it"
6:57 - Bikers detected
7:34 - awkward ending
9:24 - curbing curbs
10:04 - FSD's true take rate
13:21 - That's what SHE said!
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19:06 - the freeway test
21:04 - I'm Impressed
23:07 - We steered into a tree
24:55- unsafe parking lot speeds
25:36- Ai brilliance at work
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As aging adults, 66 and 73, we no longer enjoy driving.
Ten hour trips that we used to do in one a day are now split up into two days.
We just returned from a long trip to Nashville, and used FSD for the entire trip.
Nashville traffic was heavy with 12 lanes of high speed driving, multiple entrances and exits, and cars constantly cutting me off. Adding to the stress was rain and fog.
FSD handled it well.
One thing that changed during the trip was it used to pass as needed to keep up with my set speed. On the second day it only passed when I used the turn signal to indicate a lane change. I didn’t like this change.
In spite of the few flaws, I’m buying FSD.
The only decision is do I subscribe or buy it?
We just bought the car, a 2023 M3 rear wheel drive, 5 months ago.
This is our first EV.
Without FSD the trip to Nashville would have been far less enjoyable due to the traffic.
FSD feels like when GPS developed into what it is today. Today, few people would want to take a trip without using GPS. The same will be true for FSD in the decades ahead.
Buy Tesla stock while it’s still affordable.
Love your videos.
Thanks for making them.
Do you use it at night? I heard it sometimes just stops suddenly on the highway for no reason at night.
These two has got to be the most genuine and nicest couple on TH-cam. Sometimes it just comes through!
Used the beta and used it over 800 miles so far. Did about 400 miles on FSD going this weekend. There were city roads, country roads and in town driving.
It was both amazing and upsetting.
What was amazing it changed lanes to keep pace, moved over a bit for trucks, my wife loved that,
and came to gentle slow downs, to turn right or left. It also drove on two lane roads with no lines off to the right, but some of them were so sloped from the center I took over and drove in the center until I needed to move over for oncoming cars.
The issues were more than a few. 1) Constantly at issue was it knowing what the speed limit was. It would turn on to a country roads, not see a sign and not know how fast to go, (they are typically 55). If it was going 55 before a town, get the slow down to 45mph, drive through the town and not know or miss the sign to go 55 again. It also changed the speed limit by a stop sign to 15mph cross the road and not speed back up to 55mph. This was annoying. It also asked me to shake the wheel when it was making a turn. That was messed up. On the highway it would see a truck speed limit and not know it was for trucks and slow the car down to 60 from 65. In general it was doing a lot of adjustments to speed that were wrong.
Even with these annoying issues, it drove 90% of the way there and back. It did an amazing job and my wife was very impressed. I believe strongly that Level 3 is possible this year.
Speed issue can be solved, especially Tesla can "cheat" and hardcode the speeds as per your geo-locations.
Great video guys! I purchased FSD in 2019 for my 2018 M3 and have been a Beta tester since then. Kim, I also felt FSD was a lot of work to use. I'm 76 so my energy level isn't what it used to be, but I wanted to make as much of a contribution as possible to the system. I used it every single day, but V11 almost made me stop. V12 is mostly a joy to use & I'm looking forward to a rapidly improving experience. I purchased FSD because I didn't want to end up the same as so many older individuals who are so restricted because of loss of ability to drive. Many, many places don't have adequate public transportation & even when they are available, not very convenient. On V12.3.3 I still have the problem of turning into inappropriate turn-only lanes. I believe that the highway is still on V11, so the single stack is something to look forward to.
I am also very frustrated with the lack of ability to transfer FSD. As a retired teacher on a very small income I have not been able to take advantage of any of the transfer offers, because I can't just jump up & purchase a new vehicle within a short time span. As an early adopter of both a Tesla and FSD I would be happier with Tesla if they acknowledged that by allowing me to transfer it at any time.
@itsKimJava whenever u feel FSD is hesitating or slow to act, give the accelerator a little push, 90% of the time, it'll speed right action so far 100% for me
Regarding the 40 mph speed limit on freeway I400, we have a "minimum speed 40 mph" sign. Tesla's FSD reads the "white rectangle" sign shape and the number 40, but fails to read the text or doesn't read it at all, which is why it sets a speed limit for the car at 40 mph.
I have FSD 12.3.3 and driving around town it is really good. The turns are more human like, the speed selection is more natural and i hardly intervene. Most of my interventions are not needed - I need to get my confidence up. I have had FSD for 5 years. This is the first time I can really consider using it in traffic in cities. Highways have been great for years now, but even there the speed selection is better and I think it makes smoother lane changes now than on earlier version.
The speed limit changes to 40 MPH is being caused by the “MINIMUM SPEED 40MPH” signs.
It does it to me on I-85 a lot.
A few days ago, I did a 10 mile round trip and FSD performed flawlessly. Today, however, I did a 30 mile trip and had to do several interventions. One was where it inexplicably slowed to 45 on the freeway in the left lane, and then proceeded to fail to change lanes with less than 0.1 mile to our exit. Doesn't seem to plan ahead for freeway exits. I've seen this behavior many times. Then on the trip home, it jumped into the left turn lane on a city street to prepare for a RIGHT hand turn. Then, at the last second, it swerved all the way over to the right lane. Fortunately, there was no one behind us.
Seems like FSD has good days and bad days.
I use it daily and have probably logged over 50k miles with it. v12.3.3 is the first version that has gotten me from point to point without having to disengage it. Don't get me wrong it will occasionally choose the incorrect lane which will cause me to correct it but I must say it has been a huge improvement. My neighbor also has it and it is the first version that he has used daily as well. In the past he would try it once a new update would hit and then immediately stop using it.
Ya, I think by next year, most Tesla users will forget about how to actually drive. 😄
Fanboys are funny, having to keep your hands on the wheel and constantly stressing over it making a mistake is worthless. Driving yourself is way less difficult
@@daveblock For me it is about the tech and getting it to a place where it safer than a human. A little self serving as I am in my mid 50s and by the time I get to a place where I can't drive as well as I am today it would be nice to hop in my car and just tell it to drive me to Costco ;)
@DerekRasina Same with me but need it to get there sooner than later as I'm turning 70 later this year.
@@580guru Wow, what a failure attitude.
been using the latest beta 2 weeks ago (model Y), use it while driving for uber, yesterday i got on a 15 mins ride $15 tip while demoing it to a passenger :) I always use FSD speciallly between rides
I think with the solid line on the freeway it didn't want to change lanes. Highway is still using the old FSD v11 stack, so it doesn't get the same as city streets. If you have it set to auto speed, and it says auto then you are FSD V12, if you see the max speed, it is FSD v11.
That's an interesting tip about how to tell if you are still using part of the old highway stack. Thx!
One thing I don’t like is that it has a very heavy foot starting from a standstill. Also it got lost at a downtown highway interchange… still it’s definitely an improvement from V11 (which drove like a drunk man and scared my passengers)
I noticed that too, maybe I should not be in ascertive mode or whatever it's called, and also be in chill mode?
So far for me it has chirped tires braking for a fresh yellow light, so we could do without the whiplash, but massive improvement.
Chill mode is definitely better
version 12 is awesome !!! much like a human driving !!
In a lot of ways it really is. Watch to the end…makes it scary what is possible in a few years if not a few months!
Love it. Use it daily. Definitely some quirks and situations that taking over is best like construction on highways. Why don't you just pay the monthly subscription? Everyone keeps saying $12,000. Most people change cars within 5 yrs and then you are not out the whole amount!
If you sell the car with FSD you get more for that car. If you pay 200 a month for 5 years you are out the full 12k because you get nothing back.
Good job
@@dang2055They really should make the FSD transferable with a small fee or something.
I got enhanced autopilot with my 2023 Model Y. My FSD subscription is only $99 / month. Better than $12k outright and $200 / month.
@@christopherchaffee1408I think people will buy even 💩 if you know how to sell it.
25.54 it's nice to see someone who understand it .
I've been using FSD for over 2.5 years. My biggest problem is the nudge problem. I normally hold the wheel lightly and it doesn't think I am. When I do hold it tigher it often goes out of FSD without me knowing because it thought I took over. And yes prior to v12, even though I used it on every trip there were many times I knew better than to let it be driving. With v12 it does every trip end-to-end without intervention (except for gates). We also got an X just over a year ago and my wife now drives the Y ... with v12 it's finally time she may starts using it. (She was very unhappy when I sold her car and made her drive the Y, she heated the regenerative braking . A few months later when she started driving her car we keep a our home up north all she did was complain about how it kept running away on her.) We're both now over 80 and it sees all around it (and we don't turn our bodies like we use to) and it reacts faster than we can. We do two 2,000 mile road trips a year and our average charging time last year was 13.5 minutes ... faster than we can shuffle to the bathroom and back.
You talked about round-abouts. We have a very busy two-lane one near our house ... with v11 I would take over as we arrived. With v12 I never worry about what it's going to do no matter how far around it's going. For over two years, my wife has driven 2 miles out of her way just to avoid it. As soon as I can get her to feel comfortable the car will drive her anywhere.
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I use it daily. I live near you on the north side of ATL and work at the airport 17-25 days per month. I use FSD down 400 and on the connector every time I go to work. Now with 12.3.3 I use it on all the side streets, too. I've been using it full time since the safety score early days.
Hopefully in my Cybertruck soon 😁
That intersections are literally a mile from my house Johns Creek! I did a double take! I know these roads and they present a great challenge for FSD.
I loved this video, thank you for taking the time and effort to make it! FSD's come so far from your first FSD video (the first video I viewed of your channel), and the one you put out last year.
Some of the interesting parts of this video for me:
3:20 Y'all driving around in the N ATL burbs is surreal. I drive these roads regularly.
5:32 It taking these right turn lanes appropriately without stopping. In old versions, I'd imagine it stops at the red light even though that right turn onto McFarland has right of way at all times because it has its own lane.
6:30 The confidence to proceed with the left turn despite the oncoming van having its own right of way too. It doesn't freak out like old versions, or even a person not familiar with the intersection might. Then the immediate move over to the right lane smoothly. Waiting for all of those bicyclists to cross, very naturally and not freaking them out was cool. Only thing it screwed up at Halcyon was that wacky park job. 😆
10:53 Nice U-Turn and commit despite the light turning yellow.
14:38 Caney after that three-way stop is a super tight road with practically no shoulders. I see plenty of people driving left of center while going around those bends... it looks like FSD handles it well.
15:40 You did this intersection if your first FSD video and it did terribly with it. Huge improvement. Very natural being somewhat occluded by the median.
19:25 Solid merge onto the freeway. You can imagine an all EV future where vehicles have more or less the same acceleration and one slow accelerator is not holding up the whole line of cars.
19:40 I think the reason it chooses not to complete the lane change is because of the solid white line coming in for that Kimball Bridge construction project. It didn't handle it very gracefully, but it seemed like it was more awkward than dangerous.
20:50 Waiting that late to get into the exit lane would stress me out too, especially cutting in right behind another vehicle. I do think Kim's thesis may be right though. How often do you see humans do that very thing, wait until the last moment and cut in giving no room to someone in front, behind, or both? FSD being trained on human data is a double-edged sword.
22:12 To confidently go around the truck moving left of center like that is impressive. No big deal for us humans because understand the rules have exceptions for this scenario, but for FSD, it has data showing it exceptions, but it doesn't know WHY the exception exists. Hence why the confidence impresses me.
23:20 That park job. 🤣
25:30 It definitely saw those pedestrians headed toward the road quickly. That cautiousness is super-encouraging. As it improves over time, imagine its ability to stop for animals and children dashing into the road.
29:23 This is simultaneously frightening and super impressive. That was the right maneuver and technically very safe, but yes, all those cars in the right lane (with a yield)... that's a lot of volume to make a left in front of with confidence. I love it.
On the issue of price, I do think the $12k is absurd until it is legit FSD, sleep in the backseat style. Perhaps you guys consider the $200/mo trial on your X? It'd take 5 years of subscription before costing as much as the $12k... Do you think you'll have your current X for that long? Great video. I love watching the progress of FSD and I've not found any other ATLiens sharing their experiences with it. Thanks again for your efforts!
When you guys discussed the 40 speed limit, you thought that it was the last sign it scanned b4 you entered the highway. However, it mistakenly takes " 40 Minimum " speed signs and makes it the speed limit. Does that to me all the time. I use Autopilot everywhere I go now. Its fantastic!
Wonderful show, you two! Thank you for helping us all accelerate our learning with these incredible transportation systems! Peace
We tried it on a road trip down from Atlanta to Orlando. It was great except the speed limit signs in Ga. We have a minimum speed limit sign and then a speed limit sign. The car was constantly going from 75 to 40 and back. Wasn’t a confidence builder. Once we were in Florida it was almost perfect! They list both speeds on the same sign and FSD reads that properly. If they fix the minimum speed limit problem it would great.
I frequently use a two lane section US Hwy 15 in NC and because of the lack of speed limit signs FSD thinks the speed limit is 15 when it’s 55. Knowing this I switched out of letting FSD anticipate the speed of the car and just set my max speed at 60 which has worked great.
There is a lot riding on this new update for Tesla. Hope it works out for them.
Great job on this video. Really enjoyed it. Happy to know you like this version of FSD and might use it. Keep in mind that not only is it a great luxury feature to be able to have your car drive you around comfortably while you supervise but it also results in a safer experience if you're paying attention.
Love the update. You mentioned you feel like you could take a nap as a passenger. My wife hated the previous version and wouldn't allow me to use it with her in the car but with the update, she has made a shopping list on her phone and caught up on work emails while I am driving with the updated FSD. That was the true test for me. She actually uses this sometimes now as well. Such a huge improvement but still way out of our price range for FSD.
Love hearing multiple points of views for certain items and issues of FSD!
I purchased FSD in 2020 and with this new version 12.3.3 it is finally very useful. I think it will be even better when they adjust the neural networks to rewrite the code for the freeway. I do think that they should make FSD in two formats. Personal use and commercial use. When he talks about how much money it is worth I’m never gonna use my car as a Robo taxi. I will only use it for personal use so the value of it is not worth the same as someone that would use it to make income. They should just have two versions of it. Also, I think that if they made it lifetime transferable one vehicle at a time I would probably pay up to 15,000 for that because I know that if I have an accident or traded in I’m not going to lose it Also if I ever rented a Tesla it would carryover to me in a rental. I do have a reservation for the cyber truck and I had checked the box for the option to get it at $6000 so I am trusting they’re going to honor that because I put my money down under those conditions. if for some reason, they don’t honor the 6000 then I will not purchase the cyber truck.
I agree but to be accurate $7000 was the day 1 Cybertruck FSD price.
I did a few hour road trip and on the highway with 12.3.3 it was in the left lane on a divided highway -- at least twice, maybe three times it moved into a left turn lane at 75 mph.
Maybe do a test of objects in the road, like garbage cans, roadkill, branches, pets (simulated, of course)?
it does slow down for speed bumps....
And when crossing railroad tracks.
I just had a trash can in the road, as well as a bunch of speed platform and standard speed bumps, handled all of them perfectly.
A real test requires real animals.
So interesting to see this. Thank you.
2020 M3 with FSD beta….
Before this current version, it was more of an annoyance than anything. This new version is excellent. I use it daily now and am very impressed.
Great video! I've been using FSD Beta for 2+ years and as you are seeing, the progress is really impressive!
Regarding the speed limit setting to 40 on the highway, this version mistakes the "Minimum Speed" limit signs on highways as actual speed limit signs. This is new behavior in v12, and I've seen it throughout the highways here in GA, hope they fix it soon.
Thanks for doing this video. I might get it on a monthly basis for trips. After 56 years of driving I could use the assistance going thru Columbus or Cincinnati for long trips.
Kim's face during parts of this video is priceless! I had the same look when I started using my free trial of FSD
Great show! I use my FSD 12.3 every day and even make up trips so I can use it more! Have fun!
I agree
I'm trying the month demo and constantly having to disable it is more work than just driving in my opinion
Great video guys. I had the chance to use FSD in my parents new X. It worked great, merged well, turned right on reds it accelerated well after turns also. I didn't notice the speed issue. I was impressed, I don't have fsd on my 2018 M3, so it was fun to use.
Hey Kim & P.J. Incredible video with all the necessary stats as per usual (and the fantastic commentary😂). One question I have for y'all, is, do you have a playlist of the background music that you use in your videos? They're all so "aesthetic" persay, and I'd love to have them playing in the background while doing things around the house and whatnot. Thanks again, you guys rock!!!
Thanks for the kind words and your viewership. Music is the toughest and most time consuming part sometimes, but happy to hear someone appreciates them.
Unfortunately we don’t have a playlist for the songs as they are licensed through a website called epidemic sound, where we pay a subscription to have access to that library of songs.
Thanks again!
Kim
@ItsKimJava, right, I kinda wondered if they were from epidemic. Thanks anyway😊
I enjoy driving versus being driven, but I do find this quite cool for longer rides; excellent tech!! Have used it each time I drive and have run into a few supervised moments after having used the accelerator with FSD then questioned whether FSD would stop as expected (after having taken my foot off accelerator/ gotten up to speed; sometimes not fast enough.)
I’ve had FSD for years. 12.3.3 is absolutely amazing and I actually use more often than not not. In the past FSD was only for when I was absolutely comfortable with the route. Now I engage it everywhere. It has pulled into parking lots and parked itself too. It’s awesome. Cannot wait for more advances.
12:10 The yellow phase of a traffic light is meant for the driver to come to a safe stop when the light turns Red. „Gunning it" is a very bad habit and leads to accidents, or at the very least makes other traffic participants very uncomfortable.
I am glad to see that FSD seems to do the right thing in these situations.
Ive had fsd for 4 years now and I didnt use it much with v11 but now with v12 I use it a lot. Its so much better and is enjoyable to use. They are so close to a robotaxi now
Great video.... I've used FSD just as soon as it was available everyday. Both on my Model 3 and X ...I use it every day. Agree as to V12 being the first not causing me to work hard ...and enjoy the car driving itself.
I tried 12.3 FSD on California Highway 17 which I had to take control several times. 2018 model 3 awd
Excellent video. Did you experience phantom breaking at all?
I think even the old FSD was driving better than most people.
lol
Love how you said it signals for merges, then two minutes later it merged with nary one blink of the blinker. lol My Model Y does that all the time.
My 2023 M3-RWD had hit the curb while FSDv12.3 trying to make spot for an on-coming car. This happened to me at the Costco in Windward Place, Alpharetta, GA and it was one of those weekend peak hours (just about 45 mins before Costco closes).
Yeah, for that reason I still don't trust it in tight areas. I have taken great pains to keep my alloy wheens free of curb trash, and I would have for FSD to screw them up.
Just used it yesterday from Nashville to Atlanta on my model Y (v4 hardware) at night with occasional rain and it worked great on the highway and on city streets. There were times when big rigs were slowly sliding into my lane and FSD gets a little nervous (which is understandable) and might disengage. 29:19 where you getting onto hwy 400 north from Holcomb Bridge Road?
Thanks for the great FSD drive and your honest comments. I just bought a used 2018 Model X with EAP as my 2nd place holder vehicle patiently (not really) waiting for my Cybertruck Reservation. I upgraded the MX to HW 3 which allows FSD. EAP to FSD upgrade is $6K and the FSD subscription price for EAP owners is $99/mo. Since I haven't been offered the free FSD trial on any of the family's Tesla's (2-Model 3's, a Model Y and now the X). I think I will subscribe to FSD with the X and see how that goes. I'm a person who likes to drive which is one of the reasons I love Tesla's but I'm not getting any younger and having FSD for road trips would be nice. EAP is fine for Highway driving but the places we like to go often are on older roads where the EAP features are useless. Your drive gives me hope ... thanks again Kim and PJ. 👍👍
I bought FSD with my 2023 M3LR on12/13/22. I have tried each version since then, but haven't used it other than testing. After getting V12, I have used it all the time. It still makes mistakes occasionally, especially when trying to park at the destination.
From what I see here, and my own experience, I’m giving it a C+. In no way or world is it worth a whopping 12k, far better spent on a motorcycle. And If the FSD price continues to go up, that’s there problem, not mine. In no world do I need 12k worth of driving when I do it free myself everyday
We've had FSD since December of 2021. Now our FSDv12 occasionally misses speed limit signs, but we like it a lot better than we did version 11. We basically stopped using v11 because it did phantom braking on the highway and took the wrong exits sometimes. It was a pain in the neck. Now we have high hopes that FSD will be very smooth and safe by the end of the year.
29:00 good to see you're so relaxed, Kim.
I haven't tried this newest update but my FSD has an issue where any time there is a side street it would SLAM on the brakes when there was nobody there, no stop sign or red light. I have almost been rear ended 2 times because it for seemingly no reason just slammed on the brakes passing a side road.
My experience, I had some interesting situations, FSD stopped at a Traffic light making a Right Turn on red (allowed in BC) but it did not proceed, I missed the pedestrian that actually finally started waking across from the right to left (he was hidden offset to a light stand that blocked my view), 2 sets of eyes are better than one set, Awestruck with how it is working. Today, it allowed a car entering from a mall access lane proceed in front as we were holding at a red light, very human like, the driver waived us thanks. it hit a light about 1 second it changed from green to yellow and it proceeded through, I would have done the same. Other longer yellow it stops for. Great technology!!! I really like how it works without lane markings, a lot of lane markings including the yellow line in the middle and the white lines have worn out over the winter here on the Sunshine Coast BC, but it drives like a professional!
For better experience with merging on and off freeways that you are familiar with manually using your turn signal way ahead of the exit or as soon as you can on entrance is a better experience than letting the car go to the end of the on ramp or change lanes at the last minute on the off ramp.
Fsd 12 vast improvements. Concerning whether it will stop for gates, in my experience I was going through a toll gate and I had to disengage fsd as the car would have ran through the gate. It appears it still does not see the bar.
Best FSD video I have seen about 12.3
Fsd is insane and love the update!
I am curious as to why the GPS system which receives the speed limit doesn't override the surface street sign when entering the freeway? How do you feel about the price reduction of FSD? 8K to purchase, or $99.00 per month. Only an extra 2K if you already paid for EAP.
20:03 note that the software stack for the highway is still V11, only city streets is the new end to end neural network V12 version.
Great vid! Since u guys have had 3 Model X’s I’m wondering if u ever experienced suspensions issues? I had a Tesla service mechanic warn me to go Y over X because the C’s suspension was a $10,000 problem waiting to happen
how did you get it to transfer over?
Great video thank you
The little barriers in the angle parking at 8:30 are tyre stops. Much love from Australia. 🙂
FSD also likes lane marking lines. Where there are no lines (like roundabouts) she likes to get real snug on the curbs. So be attentive with those islands like in the beginning of the video when going full speed if the lanes aren’t clearly marked because it just takes longer to register.
When approaching a stop sign, if you put your foot on the accelerator like you normally would or if you were disengaging Autosteer, you can pull up to the intersection as the car knows that you are paying attention.
Great commentary.
Just started using trial month on my Y, odd street arrangements getting to highways from my house, second time thru was flawless.i have noticed the tendency to cut corners sharp. I like it,but at about $2k. I had my Y almost 3 years and have used autopilot extensively daily on 75 mile one way commute.
You have a 150 mile daily commute? I can't imagine spending that much time each day in my car.
Lane selection in v.12 has issues when it comes to waiting in line for a busy turn-only lane. It tries to go around everyone then cut back in.
Love the "look at that counter" haha. I'm still waiting on FSD free month on my Model Y Performance.
Do you have wi-fi? I don't, and I didn't get my trial until I downloaded the latest update from my workplace (I connected to my phone, which was connected to Wi-Fi). As soon as the update was installed I got the email telling me about the FDS trial.
@@scrashthepunkstar I was wondering about that, I do have wi-fi... maybe I will check it again. Thanks for the reply. But it has updated twice in the last 2 weeks and still no FSD update.
been using it since it came out pretty much every day in Texas.
I really enjoyed the video, FSD seems very much improved. But I would like to see more left turns at a busy intersection.
Mine was going into turn only lanes, with update, when navigation knew we were supposed to go strait.
Really appreciated this video. Currently using v11.1 and continually amazed at its progress from the beginning. We are on our 3rd ModelX lease and have purchased the FSD feature for all. We definitely feel “slighted” as you say, however I feel we are investing in an amazing technology. I really like the technology that Tesla has brought to us and I plan to be exclusively Tesla once I get my CyberTruck! +$10K for an 3 year lease is too much to pay for FSD, but if we can get real FSD before our next 3-year lease then that’ll be nice!
Using it daily, I agree with PJ, not worth $12,000 for me. Maybe if the commute was 30 minutes plus 2x daily. I’m interested to see if you have the same issue I have with trains
ailroad tracks? The software does not visualize the train at all nor does it visualize the crossing or the cross bars. It does stop but only sees the crossing as stoplights.
I have it. 12.3.3 is a game changer reminds me of a teenager driving after a year
I feel the same way in my model x it’s so nice sometimes a bring one or a few road sodas with me cause why not 🤷🏽🍻
On Interstate it switches to the "old" V11 stack. V12 only works on streets.
I have a 4 month old M3P and I drove 32 miles from my office to a window tinter the other day.
60% was interstate and the rest was city driving and no disconnects going there and one coming back to my office. I actually disconnected it because it wanted to get in a right lefthand turnlane and I wanted to be in the left lefthand turnlane so it really didn't do anything wrong.
My guess is a newer Tesla will do better than your 2018 model.
The thing with turn only lanes there are places that have weird turn only lanes I have driven in areas like that
I’d like to know if it still freaks out if another car is merging onto a highway, or if it gets confused by flashing lights, like when approaching a tunnel(again on a highway). I’ve been really disappointed with it up til now and can’t trust it on the interstate, let alone on smaller local roads…
i see some have auto park, does yours not have it?
The background scenery looked familiar. I definitely knew when I saw the Sharp building. New follower.
Thanks for the sub!
My vehicle was also not detecting the large construction cones. I thought something was wrong with mine, but I see that your vehicle does not detect them as well.
Here’s a little feedback. 12.3.3 on an expressway I came up behind a slower moving truck (15 under the speed limit). My Tesla didn’t initiate a go around (2 lanes available, no other traffic). So I put on the turn signal and waited. My Tesla would not change lanes. All I can suppose is that my car is in chill mode, so chill is what I’m gonna get.
I have a 2023 and it shows a great deal more than what you're seeing on your screen as far as cones and stuff. Also the newer computer never freezes like yours did... so I think you'll have a better experience on newer hardware
Nicely done! Not sure if you were aware or someone mentioned it, highway driving is FSD 11 still.
I do see traffic cones and trash bins on the 21 MS. You may also on your MX.
22:19 - should have kept the "look at that" counter going 😆
Did your 2018 need a $1000 upgrade to get FSD to work? My 2019 is not eligible for the FSD trial without a hardware upgrade.
Hi,
Are you aware that you can also subscribe to FSD on a monthly basis (turn it on/off whenever you want)
Currently it costs $199/month ($212.43 with tax)
Probably a good option for most instead of $12k - this then allows you to keep it when/if you switch to a new vehicle in the future
Thanks for the great review. I’m curious to see what will happen if an emergency vehicle with lights and siren comes close. What will the car do? Get out of the way, ignore it?
It worked perfectly for me.
We have a 2023 MY and have used it several times lately in the city and on the freeway. It is really a lot better than the 11.3, which I had for 90 days upon receipt.. Too much phantom braking for me in 11.3 In 12.3Most things are great, keeping too close the the right side of the road and running over drain covers is something I would normally avoid but it seems to prefer being there. On the freeway- pretty amazing, changing lanes when needed and following the flow of traffic. I didn't buy FSD but would consider a subscription for long trips.
I have FSD Beta (now Supervised) and use it every day in my commute to and from work, 114 miles every day.