Response to Joe DeMers' comment below: Thank you for your thoughts, Joe. As a Certified Marine Diesel Mechanic for the last 40 years, I’m guessing you’ve been down in many engine rooms and storage lockers that lack the luxury of sufficient room for the permanent installation of an onboard diesel gen set. As is the case with most, our boat also lacks surplus space in this regard and as a result, we make certain compromises. I’m aware of several companies currently building and selling marine desalinators designed specifically for use with portable generators. Fume detectors and carbon monoxide alarms should be standard equipment on every vessel, but more importantly, so should a certain amount of personal responsibility and common sense. One needs to consider cause & effect, and make their decisions accordingly. I’m not here to advocate the use of portable generators on a sailboat, but rather let people know how we addressed an issue that came up as a result. We’ve weighed our options and have no intention of discontinuing the use of our Honda 2K aboard Ramble On. Whether it’s the fuel you keep in your garage for your lawnmower or the fuel you carry for your outboard motor, try not to be a moron and more often than not you will be rewarded with acceptable results. Thanks again for your concern.
There are many possible spaces in a Tayana 37 to install a real, certified marine genset, which will NOT endanger the vessel or crew with a possible explosion or fire. The other explanations you have for keeping a dangerous genset aboard is just equivocating. I do realize that it's your boat, and it's your lives at risk, and that's your decision. However, may I suggest that any guests aboard may not share your level of risk, and it is the skipper's primary responsibility to keep all crew safe. For that reason alone, you should eliminate that gas genset. Joe DeMers
I can’t tell if you’re just fear mongering or if scare tactics are part of your sales pitch. Either way, we’re not in the market for a diesel genset at the moment. Thanks anyway
@@joedemers7770 I used to have a Honda 2000 as on the video. When my batteries were low and couldn't start the engine, I treated the generator as shore power. I ran the generator for ten minutes. When the batteries had enough juice to start the engine I shut down the generator and let the engine finish the job. Gas is safe if used with good marine practices.
Thanks for posting this! I would have scratched my head trying to figure out a solution to my new, same as yours Honda generator, in 5 mins I was in business, liked and subscribed.
Really good video I noticed we had reversed polarity on are boat only with are new generac generator ! Thanks so much for the video this saved us a lot of tracking down the problem.
We knew this would be SUPER easy for Rich, and that's why we mixed it up and had Jeni, with zero electrical skills, do all the heavy lifting. Just wanted to keep it light for the holiday weekend. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your video! I have been having this exact problem and this looks to be a fantastic solution. Quick question - what did you make the adapter with? Is that simply a replacement receptacle for the male end of an extension cord? Thx
thx for this vid. question - I have the 2200i that has both the 20A and the 30A outs and I have been using the 30A out to the shore power. I’ve seen that there are solution by an adapted n-g bonded 20A out but I haven’t seen a 30A/L5-30P adapted connector. I’m wondering if that is a possibility.. 🤔 [I feel like I have only recently noticed a reverse polarity issue on the panel..]
Bill W Yes, that’s my understanding, you can ground the generator if it’s on land. If you mean can we connect it to the AC ground of the boat, it already is thru the 3 prong plug of the power cord and we were getting reverse polarity that way. We could modify our shore power adaptor to do this, but how we did it on the video was a little easier.
LOL... loved that. 2 things that always excites me with girls (yeah I know, I'm weird._) girls driving a pickup truck, and girls doing mechanical stuff on boats cars and trucks. Don't know why but its cool. Far as I know, the reverse polarity light thing is a non issue with the little honda generators. But that is one way to fix it I guess. Grounding on boats is always confusing to me. And there is no real good answers when I looked. I figure run it thru a isolation transformer and your all good. Rich sure put you on the spot there didn't he?
I sincerely hope that nobody takes this advise, as seen in the video, for this reason - Honda gasoline gensets are NOT MARINE units, and are NOT US Coast Guard certified for marine service. Just storing this unit on a boat is dangerous, as the fuel system, again, is NOT marine certified ! You really are risking an explosion or fire just by having this genset aboard. Gasoline fumes in your bilge is LIFE THREATINGLY DANGEROUS !!! Additionally, if there is a fire or explosion, even if it is not directly attributed to this genset, your insurance company will not pay. Also, should someone [ crewmember, marina employees, passersby, yacht guests] be hurt or killed, they WILL win the lawsuit in court. WHY oh WHY would ANYBODY risk their life and limb by having a Honda gasoline genset aboard? I refuse to go aboard any boat that is carrying a gas genset, for the above reasons. Yes, I know, there are many cruisers carrying and using these units. That fact does not make the crew and vessel any safer. Bottom line - A marine certified genset, properly installed, is MUCH cheaper than a funeral. Joe DeMers Marine Diesel mechanic with 40 years experience
Thank you for your thoughts, Joe. As a Certified Marine Diesel Mechanic for the last 40 years, I’m guessing you’ve been down in many engine rooms and storage lockers that lack the luxury of sufficient room for the permanent installation of an onboard diesel gen set. As is the case with most, our boat also lacks surplus space in this regard and as a result, we make certain compromises. I’m aware of several companies currently building and selling marine desalinators designed specifically for use with portable generators. Fume detectors and carbon monoxide alarms should be standard equipment on every vessel, but more importantly, so should a certain amount of personal responsibility and common sense. One needs to consider cause & effect, and make their decisions accordingly. I’m not here to advocate the use of portable generators on a sailboat, but rather let people know how we addressed an issue that came up as a result. We’ve weighed our options and have no intention of discontinuing the use of our Honda 2K aboard Ramble On. Whether it’s the fuel you keep in your garage for your lawnmower or the fuel you carry for your outboard motor, try not to be a moron and more often than not you will be rewarded with acceptable results. Thanks again for your concern.
Response to Joe DeMers' comment below:
Thank you for your thoughts, Joe. As a Certified Marine Diesel Mechanic for the last 40 years, I’m guessing you’ve been down in many engine rooms and storage lockers that lack the luxury of sufficient room for the permanent installation of an onboard diesel gen set. As is the case with most, our boat also lacks surplus space in this regard and as a result, we make certain compromises. I’m aware of several companies currently building and selling marine desalinators designed specifically for use with portable generators. Fume detectors and carbon monoxide alarms should be standard equipment on every vessel, but more importantly, so should a certain amount of personal responsibility and common sense. One needs to consider cause & effect, and make their decisions accordingly. I’m not here to advocate the use of portable generators on a sailboat, but rather let people know how we addressed an issue that came up as a result. We’ve weighed our options and have no intention of discontinuing the use of our Honda 2K aboard Ramble On. Whether it’s the fuel you keep in your garage for your lawnmower or the fuel you carry for your outboard motor, try not to be a moron and more often than not you will be rewarded with acceptable results. Thanks again for your concern.
There are many possible spaces in a Tayana 37 to install a real, certified marine genset, which will NOT endanger the vessel or crew with a possible explosion or fire. The other explanations you have for keeping a dangerous genset aboard is just equivocating. I do realize that it's your boat, and it's your lives at risk, and that's your decision. However, may I suggest that any guests aboard may not share your level of risk, and it is the skipper's primary responsibility to keep all crew safe. For that reason alone, you should eliminate that gas genset. Joe DeMers
I can’t tell if you’re just fear mongering or if scare tactics are part of your sales pitch. Either way, we’re not in the market for a diesel genset at the moment. Thanks anyway
My intention on posting comments concerning a gasoline genset were educational only. Sorry if you took them personally. Joe
@@joedemers7770 I used to have a Honda 2000 as on the video. When my batteries were low and couldn't start the engine, I treated the generator as shore power. I ran the generator for ten minutes. When the batteries had enough juice to start the engine I shut down the generator and let the engine finish the job. Gas is safe if used with good marine practices.
Thanks for posting this! I would have scratched my head trying to figure out a solution to my new, same as yours Honda generator, in 5 mins I was in business, liked and subscribed.
There is always something new to learn every day.
Really good video I noticed we had reversed polarity on are boat only with are new generac generator ! Thanks so much for the video this saved us a lot of tracking down the problem.
Love it. Super simple and it works. Thanks for the easy answer.
We asked and you delivered! And, quickly. Wish my projects were that easy.
Thanks Guys.
We knew this would be SUPER easy for Rich, and that's why we mixed it up and had Jeni, with zero electrical skills, do all the heavy lifting. Just wanted to keep it light for the holiday weekend. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your video! I have been having this exact problem and this looks to be a fantastic solution. Quick question - what did you make the adapter with?
Is that simply a replacement receptacle for the male end of an extension cord? Thx
Yes, exactly
thx for this vid. question - I have the 2200i that has both the 20A and the 30A outs and I have been using the 30A out to the shore power. I’ve seen that there are solution by an adapted n-g bonded 20A out but I haven’t seen a 30A/L5-30P adapted connector. I’m wondering if that is a possibility.. 🤔 [I feel like I have only recently noticed a reverse polarity issue on the panel..]
Nice job Jeni
So Jen, would grounding your generator eliminate the need to bond the ground and neutral?
Bill W Yes, that’s my understanding, you can ground the generator if it’s on land. If you mean can we connect it to the AC ground of the boat, it already is thru the 3 prong plug of the power cord and we were getting reverse polarity that way. We could modify our shore power adaptor to do this, but how we did it on the video was a little easier.
Curious to know how this has worked out... Have you seen accelerated deterioration of your zincs? Why not just ground the Honda gen to ground bus?
It's worked out great. We rarely use the honda and we haven't noticed any adverse effects on our zincs. Thanks!
Is this only with the generator, or shore power also?
Only the generator
LOL... loved that. 2 things that always excites me with girls (yeah I know, I'm weird._) girls driving a pickup truck, and girls doing mechanical stuff on boats cars and trucks. Don't know why but its cool. Far as I know, the reverse polarity light thing is a non issue with the little honda generators. But that is one way to fix it I guess. Grounding on boats is always confusing to me. And there is no real good answers when I looked. I figure run it thru a isolation transformer and your all good. Rich sure put you on the spot there didn't he?
Love your videos but at 5;27 I had an anyorysm, this was like watching the special olympics. Good job.
Put the tools down!
I sincerely hope that nobody takes this advise, as seen in the video, for this reason - Honda gasoline gensets are NOT MARINE units, and are NOT US Coast Guard certified for marine service. Just storing this unit on a boat is dangerous, as the fuel system, again, is NOT marine certified ! You really are risking an explosion or fire just by having this genset aboard. Gasoline fumes in your bilge is LIFE THREATINGLY DANGEROUS !!! Additionally, if there is a fire or explosion, even if it is not directly attributed to this genset, your insurance company will not pay. Also, should someone [ crewmember, marina employees, passersby, yacht guests] be hurt or killed, they WILL win the lawsuit in court. WHY oh WHY would ANYBODY risk their life and limb by having a Honda gasoline genset aboard? I refuse to go aboard any boat that is carrying a gas genset, for the above reasons. Yes, I know, there are many cruisers carrying and using these units. That fact does not make the crew and vessel any safer. Bottom line -
A marine certified genset, properly installed, is MUCH cheaper than a funeral. Joe DeMers Marine Diesel mechanic with 40 years experience
Thank you for your thoughts, Joe. As a Certified Marine Diesel Mechanic for the last 40 years, I’m guessing you’ve been down in many engine rooms and storage lockers that lack the luxury of sufficient room for the permanent installation of an onboard diesel gen set. As is the case with most, our boat also lacks surplus space in this regard and as a result, we make certain compromises. I’m aware of several companies currently building and selling marine desalinators designed specifically for use with portable generators. Fume detectors and carbon monoxide alarms should be standard equipment on every vessel, but more importantly, so should a certain amount of personal responsibility and common sense. One needs to consider cause & effect, and make their decisions accordingly. I’m not here to advocate the use of portable generators on a sailboat, but rather let people know how we addressed an issue that came up as a result. We’ve weighed our options and have no intention of discontinuing the use of our Honda 2K aboard Ramble On. Whether it’s the fuel you keep in your garage for your lawnmower or the fuel you carry for your outboard motor, try not to be a moron and more often than not you will be rewarded with acceptable results. Thanks again for your concern.
HAHAHAHA! Do you wrap your children in bubble wrap?
All ways one get a life