NEW HONDA BLUETOOTH Generator EU2200i Exposed! CO Minder Review / 2021 Model
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- BRAND NEW 2021 Honda EU2200i inverter generator with Bluetooth, App Control and CO Detection in their redesigned best seller. See the full review and details about Hondas latest offering. I reviewed this generator and the CO Minder system to see how useful it is and how reliable it will be over time and can it be BYPASSED? Home Backup Power Generator at it's best!
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Model: EU2200iTAG
Honda EU2200
Engine Honda: GXR120
Displacement: 121cc
AC Output: 120V 2200W max. (18.3A), 1800W rated (15A)
Receptacles: 20A 125V Duplex
Fuel Tank: .95 gal
Run Time per Tankful: 3.2hr @ rated load 8.1 hrs @ 1/4 load
Dimensions (L x W x H)20.0" x 11.4" x 16.7"
Noise Level57 dB(A) @ rated load 48 dB(A) @ 1/4 load
Dry Weight: 47.4 lb.
Residential Warranty: 3 Years
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We have two of the older models at my work. One is 6 years old and the other is 8 or so. Never changed the oil, filter, or spark plugs. Ever. They start one pull in warm weather every time and 2-3 pulls in winter conditions. Running in parallel is awesome but best part is how quite they are. You can have normal conversations standing right over them. Greatest small generator you will ever buy, no question.
Why not change the oil?
They don’t even have an oil filter, so you better start changing the oil
It’s like someone going to McDonald’s every day for lunch, yet their still alive
@@OKFrax-ys2op😂😂😂😂😂
Just completed the break-in period and so far the unit is operating perfectly th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y . I was amazed by just how quiet this little guy is. I kept having to walk down the driveway to the generator to make sure it was still running. In fact, the most annoying noise coming from the set-up is a high-pitched chirping coming from the pressure regulator on the propane line. I suppose it's possible my other propane-powered generator's pressure regulator is making the same noise, but the generator itself is so loud I've never noticed it. Build quality so far is excellent. My only nit is the service panel is a little tricky to remove. I feel like I might break off one of the plastic tabs when bending it back. I probably just need to work out the technique, so will not hold it against Champion.Next week I intend to fully load the unit to charge a large battery pack and will update this review if there's any problem (3000W continuous load vs a rated 3100W capacity while using propane). Absent any trouble there, I'm 100% pleased with this purchase.
My EU2000 is 10 years old. Still my most trusted gen.
Thats Honda baby
Hah I bought my EB5000 in the early 90 still using it sometime
@@fozziebear411 still running fine?
@@johnmead9012 first year using it almost everyday and now whenever framing new houses I using it until I got the temporary power pole yes it still running fine
@@fozziebear411 damn that's great 👍
This video is why TH-cam was created. This is a PERFECT example of how to make a TH-cam video. THANK YOU
I’m 54 and always thought you screw the oil stick in to check the oil level. Never to old to learn something new. Thanks for the intel brother. 👍
I work with a lot of Honda generators. The EU2200i is the MOST oil overfilled generator I see. People tilt them, and add more oil, overfill etc. So I wanted to point that out, but not every model is the same the Hondas are but other engines, companies do have you screw in the stick as well. So you may have been right depending which models you use,
Silver Cymbal Roger that. Thanks again.
Best generator on the market hands down. I’ve got thousands of hours on my eu2200i.
Well I guess you better bring it in for an oil change & servicing before your pistons lock up
@@centeguahan3760 you idiot I change the oil every 40 hrs. Bring it in where?? I’m not lazy and stupid like you millennials I take care of my own maintenance and repairs!!
@@darrylmcginty1296 someone is sensitive...nice assumptions. You sound pretty ignorant assuming all people from certain generations are the same though. Millennials range from 25-40 years old but I’m sure you already knew that with how smart you are.
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I make better one all by myself, out of plant based plastics, charged by solar, that powers its own production, and only marginally more expensive, and weighs slightly less.
Do you have to have internet in order to connect Bluetooth? Sometimes I camp where there's no cell phone signal.
@@anythingadrenaline4515 No once you have the app you are just directly connecting to the generator
The link is dead, thank you for the review! Had an older model, it is a wonderful generator and hold its value. Only thing is a bit of under power for the price.
Great to know. Post hurricane we ran our eu2000 for 200 hours. Hate to think the co sensor could be a mission critical failure or expire in the middle of a disaster...
Apparently not- as was demonstrated by removing the CO2 connector.
@@garbinator09 hopefully you'd have the security bit in a disaster. (Or hopefully you know how to drill out screws. Or hopefully your drill still has power, hah!) You could probably drill out the security bit stubs and make it into a normal hex screw.
I am still using my Honda EU1000 I got in about y2k or the year 2000. Always take it on on road trips. It has been a life saver for me and other worrier travelers.
I love the EU1000, I had a few and wish I kept them all. My most favorite tiny gas generator!
Good review! Thanks! I appreciate you bringing the CO sensor to our attention and the fact that it can be disconnected so it will work when and where we may need it. I don’t like the fact that the DC panel has been eliminated !!! Many uses for that DC panel. I won’t be buying this model because of that.
Isn't DC also available from the generator paralleling terminals? Isn't that the whole point of those terminals, to provide +12VDC to parallel to another generator?
My fire department uses Honda. They are absolutely great units. Never had a problem with one.
Thanks for the outstanding video. I purchased an EU2200i yesterday as a backup to my trusty old EU2000i. Like you and so many others, the sensor has me bugged. I was glad to see the unit still runs with the CO module disconnected, but I still have a concern. I assume the CO module is just an input/output device to the internal controller. Inputs being the CO sensor and the reset button. Outputs being the LED's. I worry the control logic will still shut the unit down after the sensor "expire" time arrives, and only an authorized service tech can reset the unit after replacing the module. It will be interesting to watch this drama unfold as these CO-Minder equipped generators age. I suspect there will be much more said about this to come. Thank you.
Lisent. I went through 6 months without electricity here in Puerto Rico back when huracan María sent us back to the 1800s. This generator is a really amazing thing. We plug it directly to the main braker and ran the entire house with it. No AC obviously but 3-4 floor fans, garage doors, all the lights in the house, tv, the fridge and the microwave (usually we unplug the fridge to run the microwave).
It is still running strong when we get a power outage even after all this years since the huracan. And let’s not forget about the 6 months of abuse working 16 hours per day back in 2017. A full tank last anywhere from 8-10 hours in ecomode and requiere about $2.50 at current gas prices. Thats just insane.
As long as we dont use things like the water heater or the iron while also powering the house that puppy lights the entire house without even increasing its revs.
And yes I do know its not “rated” for that but at the time there was the need for a generator that was able to work with less than $5 per day. Remember, 6 months without electricity living out of savings and with 2 days waiting lines at the gas station. The little red thing blew our minds. I will always recommended
Did you properly lock out / tag out your breaker panel so some knucklehead wouldn't switch on the mains and backfeed/electrocute someone working on the power lines? Technically what you did is "illegal", but with the proper lock out / tag out, it should be safe. (But anyone working for the power company wouldn't want to have to have their life depend on your abilities.)
Question?
I bought a Honda EU7000is a couple of years ago & I’m a convert. I love💕 my generator. I have used it twice at my house during power interruptions. Once for 12 hours in the winter. A second time just last month for 3 days. It has already paid for itself in my opinion. I can run my entire house & my central air with this one unit. Ofcourse it is wired by an electrician to my house electric grid.
I’m curious if my model is Bluetooth compatible as well? It has electric start & is their flagship inverter generator.
You’ll laugh at this but I hardly ever am home when it’s on because I work as a utility lineman restoring power to other people’s homes & businesses.
I also own an EU7000is and used it here for 7 day straight th-cam.com/video/zHfIqAiUM-s/w-d-xo.html I never shut down, refueled it non-stop, its an amazing machine. But it isn't bluetooth or app compatible. They have a new one coming out this fall that like this model will also have the app control.
HI SIR! WHEN YOU USE YOUR GEN SET, DO YOU HAVE TO EMPTY THE GAS TANK OR IS IT SAFE TO LEAVE IT UNTIL YOUR NEXT USAGE? IN MY CASE I ALWAYS USE MY GEN ONCE EVERY 3 MONTHS. THANK YOU SIR!
No sir’s are necessary-I’m a working guy.
As for fuel storage? If you use your generator atleast every few months? I wouldn’t think you need to do anything with your fuel? We use our generator for when we lose power at home. We lose power for atleast a day once a year. I add Stabil Fuel stabilizer (marine grade) with Startron fuel enzyme. We do that out of an abundance of caution. I add both into empty 5 gallon gas cans before fueling up. That way it properly mixes as I add fuel. I keep my fuel upwards of a year without separation or degradation.
Many people might be surprised but the EU7000is is very fuel efficient. During a recent storm in the summer time, we only used about 11 gallons of gas a day. That’s while running the central air during the hottest part of the day with windows open at night. We burned about 30 gallons of gas over a three day outage. That’s running the entire house. 2 full-size refrigerators & an extra large freezer. Hot water, washer/dryer & stove/oven. My wife was using her lap top & my sister in-law was watching tv with lights on.
You might ask what I was doing? I was restoring power as a lineman for the local power company & only coming home to refuel & sleep.
@@johnclyne6350 what a wonderful and informative reply, Mr. John! Big help for me! Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the said additive is available here in my country. Thanks again, Mr. John!
@@edssan 3 months should be ok on its own but if you want to be safe, add what I do here to your gas and you can leave it for up to 2 years and not worry: th-cam.com/video/KwfAEGZiE2I/w-d-xo.html
I bought an EU2200i just a couple of months ago, and it was the -1 version, without the CO sensor. It was able to power the fridges, a couple lamps and wifi for my two neighbors and me at the same time. If one needed to use the sump pump, we had to reduce power a bit so it wouldn't shut off. While twice the price of the other competitors, it's twice the unit and does not have a cheap motor in it.
It is definitely one of the best generators in this size made. Not cheap but long lasting and the resale value of old ones is beyond unbelievable. Rusted out 2000is still get $600 that only cost $849 new 20 years ago!
@@SilverCymbal Some people just don't understand (or are unwilling to understand) , that the Honda EU series are the best VALUE generators that money can buy. I actually used to be one of those people, but I learned a valuable lesson. Cry once when you buy the Honda, and know that it will serve you well. If you ever need, or want, to sell it in the future, you're sure to smile.
Nice review. Reminds me of Milwaukee's One Key. The last thing I need is my generator talking to my phone. And like you said, all these bells and whistles yet still no fuel gauge - the one thing you really NEED on a generator. There are a lot of electronics in these Honda inverter generators that can prevent them from starting and running. If the Bluetooth can shut off the generator it too can prevent it from starting. On the subject of fuel, I would like to see Honda increase the size of the fuel tank opening. It is almost impossible to see the level of fuel down the hole while you are filling. As a result it is very easy to overflow, which of course is made worse by the lack of a fuel gauge.
All great points and I totally agree about the gas, its the most stressful tank I fill up! Little but....stop...filll...little more...spill! I would like to see that improved too!
You just need an auto stop fill adapter for your gas bottle that’s all 👍
Is this because people at Honda are completely stupid, or is it because they have no idea, how to add a gauge?
Hmmm... I don‘t get it.
Maybe noone has told them? Or they just don‘t care?
Any real answer available?
@@AhrensburgTV Honda equipment is weird. They make some of the best built reliable equipment available but some of their design queues are from the dark ages. In this day and age when almost everyone includes an oil dipstick, Honda still uses the tiny oil plug where if the oil runs out when you open it, it's full. :-) I don't know if you remember the Honda riding mowers but they were some of the best ever made yet they had some features that were completely stupid and backwards from everything else on the market.
Once you unplugged the sensor, you didn't let it run long enough. It will shut itself off in 12-15 minutes when the sensor is disconnected.
Looking at the schematic for the generator its the yellow wire going to the CO sensor that would shut the unit down. The same wire is also routed to the low oil switch. It looks like grounding this wire will shut it down.
Absolutely fantastic review! This is one of the most complete reviews of the 2021/2022 EU2200I which I have seen. The video even addressed the concerns which I had about the CO sensor. While the video covered the parallel cable, the video did not cover the EU2200IC (companion) variant shown within the video which features a 30A socket. It's also worth noting that a Neutral-Ground Bonding Plug must be used when this generator is used with a surge protector ... such as is commonly required by RV manufacturers. Again, this is a fantastic review and one which I have bookmarked for future reference. Thanks for posting.
I have never seen a better review for any product. Well done good sir. Well done!
My EU2200i has been a beast! It just doesn’t stop running
As a someone I consider to be “handy”, I like the fact that it will run without the CO2 sensor. But brings up concerns that a failure of such safety feature may not be detectable. I am from the medical device industry where all safety features must fail in a most safe manner which in the case of this generator means no start.
good question, does it "fail safe"
Someone else said it will stop after 15 minutes after removing unit. 😊
Living where hurricanes knock the power out ever single year at the worst times, this was very helpful and informative. Thanks!
Bought one when the day it was released. Pretty awesome generator
Great to hear, it has to be the quietest launch I have ever seen.
what is cost about ?
Great vid review. I especially like the part where you consider the long term considerations and looked into modern failsafe additions being a potential issue. You checked and found the answer for yourself.
This review garnered another subscriber for the channel.
Got honda 12 years old, running like new, also got Ryobi with bluetooth , 3 years old running strong
What a superbly detailed video, with excellent, relevant imagery and corresponding narration.
I found the video to be both interesting and informative and the test of the CO2 Detector was great.
Even better was your testing to verify that the machine would still start and run even if it was disconnected!
Your review of the phone App was also really well done.
I'm happy to subscribe to such a helpful, informative channel.
I ran my 2000 model for two days after hurricane Sally. It started up without a problem after 2 years in storage. I have a manual transfer switch on my outside electrical panel and that's where I connect the generator. It ran my refrigerator, several lights, computer and phone. It tripped out with the microwave and probably would not like my toaster or any other high current device. It used very little gas unlike the big whole house generators. Since it is small and portable I have no problem storing it for the next hurricane. I was very pleased with it's performance even though it will not run everything in my house at once. Just fine for getting me through the power out after the big storm.
(silver cymbal takes out the CO safety switch)
well, now we know for sure this is not a sponsored video LOL
I figured that would definitely eliminate any doubts!
Love that you disconnected that sensor on the vid.. game changer. Bought mine today!
@@happyseany Glad it helped. amzn.to/3kfGnBp Is a nice upgrade for sure!
Lost my pre co minder on Matagorda beach with hutch propane kit gahhhh. Buying this one tomorrow after seeing you can eliminate this nanny bullcrap, thanks.
Has anyone been able to operate the unit with the front module disconnected? I disconnected it so it would run under my truck bed cover to keep it out of the weather (still had some ventilation) and it still knew to trip. Overly sensitive pain in the butt feature. Only, with the front module disconnected, there was no way to reset it. The generator wouldn’t start no matter how many times I pulled the string. I had no choice but to reconnect it and use it to clear the fault. The sensor is somewhere else - deeper within the unit. Hopefully, someone will figure out how to bypass it eventually. Very annoying. If you don’t know by now not to sleep next to a running engine and exhaust fumes this little safeguard will only delay the inevitable. The engineers did their homework - made a pretty confounding, hard to overcome feature. That little plastic module does two things - it indicates when there’s a CO trip and it lets you reset the generator so you’re not locked out from being able to restart. The replaceable part is elsewhere.
Thanks for the review. I was also worried about the sensor fearing that I wouldn't be able to use the generator when needed. Thanks for showing us how to bypass in an emergency.
I'd much rather have an LCD display like their other models than Bluetooth. I don't want to have to pull out my phone to check current draw or engine hours.
Bluetooth seems like it should be more resilient against years of usage vs an LCD display. An LCD display will only last a decade or less if it's smashed or heat damaged. An LED display might have been nice. But what would you have on it? % load? They could have done that with a simple LED bar graph.
I truly hope these companies compensate you for your reviews (I don't want an answer, just saying) because all of your reviews are top notch. I've purchased many items due to your videos.
I appreciate that and I have no problem sharing that I have no connection to Honda, paid full price for the generator and the only money I could make, is a small commission if people use my links to buy one. I really just love power equipment so these videos are fun for me to make.
@@SilverCymbal I had the same question and assumed it was probably a sponsored review. If you don't have any connection with Honda, how were you able to get your viewers a discount? Thanks for the video!
@@noyopacific Its not special for me its just a great deal that I used for myself and others can too through Amazon. I have no problem telling you I work with a company or sharing I got something for free.This was not the case. If you have any doubts at all, believe me Honda would never have allowed me to take the CO system apart! I would like @honda to send me one of their robot mowers though! That I would like to test.
@samlol23 If the company compensates them, then he cant give his honest opinion. Is that what you really want?
@@PremiumFuelOnly of course thats not what I want. I can usually tell when items are provided for no cost for a review.
My point was merely he does very good reviews and rarely bashes items. I would suppose it would be better not to do the review than do a bad one, so the ones we would see are the products that perform well.
Nice review. For small Generators I can do without the Bluetooth. I rather have that info on a nice color screen located on the Generator. Some of the Lithium Battery Generators are doing that and it is quite handy. The new Bluetti AC200. Overall Honda's are still the best gas Generators.
That big square space where the CO-Minder auto destruct feature is located would be a great use of space for a digital amp/voltmeter. You can buy these things on ebay for $6 and you don't need a phone to read it. Just point eyeballs and it works! This idea is in the same category of the non-existent Honda gas cap fuel gauge. No Phones/Apps. Just look at gauge and it works! That might be a $15 part. People have been asking for the fuel gauge forever and Honda knows this but instead we get something Honda's Lawyers wanted and yet another thing that has to have a phone and an "App". The idea of practical usefulness has escaped Honda. BTW: I wonder what data the "App" is sending to Honda Inc. or 3rd party contractor? Quite frankly it is none of their business when, where, how often, how long you have the thing running. The next question is what data is being sent from Honda Inc. or 3rd party to the "App" and then to the generator? More than likely there is a disable function. If I had one of these new models, I'd go in there and unplug both the CO-Minder and the Bluetooth modules and put a hammer to them ASAP. When is this intrusive control BS going to end?
Honda missed the boat on this. Bluetooth on a 2200 is simply a toy. Though I have never used the 12 volt charger, it is nice knowing it is there in an emergency, and they took that away. The CO minder scares me. What happens when the battery goes bad? Will it still run? I see you can unplug and it will run. I would like to see a gas gauge, and possibly a watt meter. That would make me happy.
Does it have GPS tracker. Someone stole my 2000 watt. That would be a nice feature.
I was able to cold start my 13000 BTU window air conditioner with just one Honda eu2200i which is a big improvement over the eu2000i where I had to run (2) eu2000i's in parallel to get the unit to cold start. That extra 200 watts surge capacity makes a big difference. I heard the generator gasp but it did not cut out. BTW: That initial cold start current surge which I measured is around 28 amps (around 3500 watts) for less than a second and then after that it quickly settles to somewhere between 8 to 10 amps. I noticed that the eu2200i does eat more gas than the eu2000i but in my example it is a gas saver - running 1 generator instead of 2.
Adding a soft start to the air conditioner should help.
Don’t know if it’s by design or fault but I think unplugging that sensor and still being able to have it work is a huge positive. It would be really bad to be relying on that as most people do when using one and have no power available because of a safety failure.
Can the app tell you how many hours are on the generator ??
One simple mistake in this review. I want to see if the unit shuts down with the reset module unhooked. What if, in fact, it is JUST a reset module? The CO sensing "bit" may still be active and will shut it down. ( a good thing I would think ).
From the view shown in the video of the disconnected plug going to the module on the panel, the entire module was disconnected from the rest of the generator so it is very unlikely there is some other connection that would allow the module to even be active or be able to signal the bluetooth module that then grounds the ignition coil. Fortunately the CO module is mounted on the back of the panel and not on the PCB of the inverter. If it was on the inverter PCB, it would be a whole lot messier to disable it. So having it on the panel is a blessing. I should not have said that.... Don't give Honda any ideas...
Boss Man I’m pretty sure what postalinVT was getting at was since the unit wasn’t run in an enclosed space with the CO unit disconnected, we don’t know if that module is actually the sensor itself, or simply an indicator/reset switch. In other words, the actual CO sensor might be located elsewhere and still functional.
I don’t believe that’s the case, I believe that unit on the panel is the sensor, I’m just explaining what I think the other poster was pointing out.
@@RickinICT Right! You never know. Someone suggested putting Tape (or bubble gum) over the panel "Sensor" - that might be enough to block it, if that is in fact the sensor itself. That would be a lot easier than opening the electrical panel and voiding the warranty.
@@bossu2005 . Great another use for duck tape. HA.HA.HA
The loss of the battery charging capability in a light portable generator is shocking. I'm glad i have the previous model and absolutely love it.
This video is now in the Honda R&D to design the non-start function if the sensor is unplugged!! Good review! I've had the old one for 3 years, used it almost everyday! Great unit.
And it will get worse. At some point the only way future models will start is once they "phone home" and make sure that you (the owner) are not on the no-gen-allowed list and that you have certified your identity via the "app" and that you correctly answer the 20 questions and you meet Honda's/Government Authorities permissible use of the generator... (for example: powering to allow your home heating system might not qualify, but keeping your Smart TV and Smart Phone and other 24/7 monitoring devices would be allowed) and also certify that you hold Honda in no way responsible for anything and then your generator will run for only X hours as determined by Honda and Government.
@@bossu2005 Woudnt that be good if someone stole it? Use the phone as a "Key"?
That Kubota mini-pickup is 🔥
I looked at a Honda 2 years ago.
I also looked at a dometic.
I decided that fit a difference of a thousand bucks, 4 decibels extra I can live with
Hopefully the new version doesn’t have an endless stream of recalls like the last EU2200i. I still need to get the 2nd recall fixed, but am not super enthusiastic about leaving my generator with a repair center for weeks.
I've still got to do the 2nd recall too.
Moonshine Buck they should be on Honda site. First was leaking fuel line, causing fire. Second is inverter shorting out due to moisture. Not insignificant.
Do the recall fix yourself.It only takes a few minutes to do.You need to swap out the two rubber spacers on top of the inverter unit,and replace it with a single rubber spacer that covers the entire top of the inverter.Then cover the large connector with newly added new rubber boot.Use honda non conductive electrical grease on inside of the connector.This keeps the water out of the inverter.
Harbor freight Predator 3500w 699.99 $ 12v battery, electric start, 12v charge wires, oil funnel, tools.. the 3500 predator is quieter than my two 2200w & my two 2000w Hondas. 5k$ for all my Honda generators... That’s equivalent to seven harbor freight 3500w predators... not impressed with the blue tooth and co2 sensor. Honda please Add a remote start and don’t change the cost. Thanks for your upload 👍🏻
The 10 amp battery charger was a great feature.
I'll keep my old i2000 till they bring the 12 volt back
They will never bring it back. Honda went full retarded on their entire line of generators. They also removed the 12 volt receptacle on the eu1000 and eu3000is CO-Minder/Bluetooth models.
@@bossu2005 that sucks I made a 25 foot cord up for my snow trailer with their 12 volt generator plug on one end and 7 wire female trailer plug on other end with wires to ground and accessory to charge my rv battery I run a 25 foot 110 volt cord right beside it covers both.
I'm told the 10 amp charge uses about 175 watts of my 2000
@@acew280 The non Co-Minder/Bluetooth version is still available but they won't be for long. I ordered 2 of the the non Co-Minder/Bluetooth models as soon as I heard of all this BS a few weeks ago. I knew it was now or never.
@@bossu2005 good to know
Thanks for the info
@@acew280 FYI: The big box retailers like home depot/lowes etc. seem to only have the co-minder versions so I got mine from electricgeneratordepot.com - here is the product page - if you decide to order I'd call them and order over the phone making sure they are sending you the non co-minder version - that's what i did.... www.electricgeneratordepot.com/collections/inverter-generators/products/honda-eu2200i-121cc-2200-watt-120-volt-super-quiet-portable-inverter-generator
My eu2200i is over ten years old and probably has no less than 3,000 hours. Oil changes and one plug change. What a beast...
I run a 10k btu camper AC with a soft starter on this generator. Plus a fridge, lights, usb outlets charging two phones. A beast indeed.
That was an excellent video. Detailed, concise, useful, well-produced. Thank you.
Just got mine. I'm so happy with everything about it and this video really inspired me to go for it. Thank you so much it is a great review of this product!
Now! We all need these in Texas!
I wonder if you could put a piece of tape over the CO sensor to override it?
If Honda see this video. They will stop it from starting without the sensor.
Nice review.
Thanks for uploading
Seriously. you aren't kidding, I was wondering if they have the ability to do that through a firmware update! Unofficially I believe that they designed it this way on purpose but time will tell. Thanks!
I have 2 of the older ones, the oil alerts fail also so you can disconnect them. They fail and they won't start. Dealer told me they get dirty and it was not worth the price to replace. I used one daily for 10 yrs. 1 tank living off grid. These are great gens
I have EU20i , and bought it unused in June 2003. Some years ago it had problems in winter time when it was colder, like -5 deg Celsius. It is the oil alert! The solution was to keep it inside my warm cabin when it is not in use. It will start easy and no problems in running. The oil was too cold causing the oil alert to fail. The next trick is to top oil more than advised, so slightly more than 0.4 liter. Then it works. Many have here in Finland the same problem with EU20i, both older and newer units. I have used my EU20i "only" 9200 hours during 17 years (about 8 to 10 months/year). I'm saving petrol and using mostly only two times 1.1 gal / week, (2 x 4,1 liter).
Your oil alert issue sounds me more serious. What I'm talking must be some kind of design error in the engine.
You’re in Bluetooth range. “Generator has started.” OH REALLY???!! BRRraahhhh
Really a well done review, I've started sending the link to customers that buy an EU from my shop
Awesome video. I love the app, but i had the same reservations about CO-minder. I figured you couldn't disconnect it and start the unit. I ended up buying a 2200i companion non co-mider. Had i watched your video and saw that you could disconnect the co-minder and still start it, i probably would have bought the one with co-minder to get the bluetooth option...
You really can't go wrong either way but the app functionality is good. One nice plus is that they have awesome resale value if you decided to sell in the future. Even the 15 year old original EU2000i still sell for about 60% of what they cost new which is amazing.
Silver Cymbal yep I have a eu2000i made in Japan version that I can link my new eu2200i companion with... I checked the serial numbers and it will work
Can still start it.. but mine would shut down after a while of running when CO-MINDER was disconnected! Anyone else done long-term test (5 minutes or more) with CO-MINDER disconnected? Very curious.
@@seansherman1937 Did it start again after shut down ? Also, did it shut off every time after disconnect of the sensor ?
One of the best vids I’ve ever watched on YT, well done my friend!
Always EXCELLENT and comprehensive presentations, sir. Between this unit and the Westinghouse iGen 4500 with electric start, which would you personally select for partial home back-up use?
This is a great video. Thanks! I just ordered my very first generator. I chose the Honda 2200 with bluetooth. This video taught me so much! Love it! :)
Wow. So those Honda inverter generators are becoming so popular and the best inverter generators th-cam.com/video/aS142bxFxq0/w-d-xo.html there are things special about them.
Pretty funny, the owner of the Honda generator, bought a Kubota side by side! So Honda made it to communicate with a phone app, but removed what appeared to be USB port for charging your phone😂. In addition, there is no 30amp plugin, so you can hook two together for 4400 amp but you are not able to use that amount of power for an RV or your house. Now that is some intelligent design😂!
When you combine two Honda the second MUST be the companion model that has the 30 AMP plug for using it on RVs. I have no idea why there is no USB but my theory is that USBs were never designed for outside use and they could easily get crapped up. Honda is usually thinking its owners want very long term use so that could be why they leave it out.
@@SilverCymbal If Honda is thinking that its customers want long term use why are they adding more electronic crap to their tried and true designs?
@@gil6995 They really have no choice, they can't have other brands having, USB, Bluetooth, etc. At some point they will look too dated. Hopefully these things will be as well engineered as the inverter itself has been.
@@gil6995 Probably getting sued from people dying over CO.
My favorite part of these generators is the way they have set up to drain the carburetor bowl and it just drains out the bottom
Great review mate. Subscribed 👍🏻
Finally Honda eu2200i incorporate bluetooth. My Ryobi 2300 has bluetooth and it’s 2 yrs old. Awesome feature.
why removed 12v output? It’s very useful for charging a dead auto battery!
You did a very nice review. However I want to warn anyone looking at Honda generators. They are not what they used to be. I bought a EU2200 and it would did not run right. Took it to a Honda dealer and they told me it needs a carb and the wires are damaged. They claim someone worked on the generator and will not honor the warranty. It has less then ten hours on the generator no one has worked on it. The only thing I did was put oil and gas in it. I now have Honda involved I want the unit replaced or my money back. Honda told me they would look into it. So I am stuck and may have to buy another one. It wont be a Honda.
Did not have the one info I needed the most, how much real world usage can this generation do? Such as electric stove, power tools, and even charging your EV.
Becuase it's pointless every EV is different, microwaves, ovens all draw different amounts of power. I can tell you whatever you want, but it won't be accurate for you.
Great review and intro to the product!
Thanks so much! I was so excited to get one of these, You can probably guess this was NOT a sponsored review. Honda would never have sanctioned me doing all this but someone needs to answer the question about the CO system.
We have the Older Eu2000i model. We run it 24-7 at our camp. It has the special Fuel cap which allowed us to plum a large 40 Gal Tank. This generator is Excellent on fuel. It normally runs 14 to 18 days... NONE STOP...!!! It runs a Frost Free Fridge and a Chest Freezer and all the 110 VAC LED Lights in camp. (Several) as well as outside lights . This is the most amazing generator i have ever had or used. And Very Quite...!!! Never uses a drop of oil. Just the best thing since Sliced Bread...!!! Highly recommend it.
With this new model... Not that impressed with the CO2 Detector. Without electric start, it really is a bit useless. The watt meter is useful maybe for people who just don't understand electricity.
The last time I priced this I think it was about $1200.00 in Canada. Yes, its expensive. But it is worth the money. Our unit runs year after year without and issue. We change the oil every spring. That's it. I think we changed the plug a couple years ago. We keep a spare in camp, just in case ... for the day it decides it would like to have a new plug installed. Yup.... Worlds Best Generator...!!!
Cool, but sounds like more things that can go wrong.
I dont know why people would want bluetooth on a generator or on tools etc.
I'm sure the bluetooth has a kill switch on the generator that can be activated by the authorities on demand... That is after it has announced itself saying "Here I am - Kill me"
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@@bossu2005 that's very unlikely. Maybe if it had a cellular connection it could make sense, but why would any government want to shut down a generator?
@@LouisSubearth The same reason a government would cut your utility power and water supply.
For Canadian I’ve contacted Honda Canada and they don’t plan to supply the Bluetooth features anytime soon for Canadian. Honda preferring leaving the outdated 12 volts outlets. I’ll buy one from USA same price more features.
Great video! After you disconnected the CO plug, did you run the unit inside your UTV again to see if it would or wouldn't sense CO and shutoff?
Really? How on earth is the sensor going to do anything when it's disconnected?
absolutely perfect review. and they did a good job with the sensor. works great, but if it's a dire emergency and the sensor stops working, you can disconnect, make sure the gen is well out in the breeze and let er rip.
Great review thumbs up on the co2 info
Glad it was helpful!
I purchased a Honda eu2000i in Dec 2003 for $895 + tax. We used it for RV boon-docking, camping, and use on our boats. I changed the oil religiously and cleaned the air filter element as specified in the owners manual. It crapped out last winter with over 11,500 hrs of use. (Still had the original spark plug in it). It didn't burn any oil it's entire life, and would run about 10 hours on a gal of gas (on ECO mode). Not counting the gas and oil, I figure it cost us about 8 cents per hour of use.
It just quit running one day, and the engine has no compression. It probably burnt a valve, and for for the cost of rebuilding the engine, I figured I would do better just buying a new one, so that is what I did. I'm probably good for life now!
Are you telling me that you are buying all those generators you are testing and keeping them without returning them?
Lots of nice new features on this one. I have the older model that has served me beautifully over the years, and don't want a bunch of expensive new features like the CO sensor that will make it less reliable. The plastic switch and outlet covers are nice, as is the app feature, but I don't want the CO sensor making the unit go down at the worst possible time.
Better died then have the generator stop
@@Marc-O If one is that stupid, then I have to agree. Common sense is required.
Nice review, good testing on the CO2 sensor and good on Honda for allowing the generator to start/run with it unplugged.
its not a co2 sensor, its a co sensor, also this might not be the sensor, could just be the fault display unit
Silver Cymbal: You are going to get more views of this video than there are Honda eu2000i/eu2200i generator owners!
I think there are way more owners out there, Honda sells more of these than you would believe
I will be replacing my old 2000ui this year with a new 2200 so this is very good information to have. It's good to know I can bypass that CO switch if it fails.
Hopefully someone figures out a way to add the BT circuitry to the old eu2200i, i would really like to have that feature on mine, but not enough to sell it and buy another
You do the best reviews by far. Thank you
Removing 12V takes this off my list
Well, the 12 v wasn't regulated, for a nominal price you can get a much better / more powerful 12/24 power supply, battery charger.
I would consider (after some time to prove itself) getting one. However, my old 2000 is still going strong, has been in 42 different states, has an extended run tank or 2 and lives in a custom built box.
I purchased a Ryobi several years ago that has this blutooth feature and love it's the reason I didn't get the Honda.... maybe now I will consider a Honda in the near future as the fact I need two generators now...
Just a little tid bit of info if you do get the Honda and have the ryobi you can parallel them together as If it was 2 Honda’s or 2 ryobis. I do it. Had originally bought the ryobi but had some problems with it, got them fixed but bought a 1st gen eu2200i in the process. They don’t know otherwise which brand is which they share the same parallel output banana plug style you can use the ryobi or Honda parallel kit for 4400w total
Great video. I think that I will stay away for all of the bells and whistles. There is more to go wrong. I have a EU2000i which works well. I was thinking of upgrading to a higher wattage model.
Another thing about that CO-Minder... When I need to run my 2 eu2000i's (in parallel), I roll both out on a wire frame shelf utility cart. For bad weather purposes I have a tarp that I secure at the top shelf of the cart and it covers both generators to just above the exhaust and on the other end (where the panel is) I have it cover most of that end but I can easily move that end aside to put more gas in etc. There is tons of air flow along the entire bottom and the bottom half of the exhaust end. I wonder how sensitive such a setup would be with a eu2200i with co-minder? Would it shut it off because it detected enough CO? The last thing you want is some 'feature' fighting you...
This is a great point! And Honda did some kind of sneaky things to tell you this might be a problem. They have a small sticker above the exhaust telling you that it is the exhaust...Pretty obvious. But the manual does cover this and includes pictures warning you to be carful of placing it in too tight of an area for fear it might trip the sensor. The short answer is that it could be a problem. I actually like the sensor because many people do dumb things and run these in basements, garage with the door cracked and these can end in disaster. Your situation is a great example of someone doing something that is totally fine, that could affected by the CO Minder.
@@SilverCymbal LOL. Those kind of people simply should be naturally selected.
First, when you shut off the 2200i remotely, the gas cap vent remains open and the gas feed valve connected to the On/Off switch remains open, so shutting the genset off remotely, the carburetor can easily flood out and even overflow because the fuel is fed by gravity.
Second, Honda has not addressed the major longevity issue/repair expense for the 2200i; the belt driven overhead valve train. At one point, Honda used to build their engines with an iron sleeve inserted in an aluminum alloy block, which extended the life of their engines many multiples of times the life of an aluminum alloy bore and that made Honda gensets worth the extra money, however I cannot confirm that is still the case. For the (as of this moment) $2400 price tag for the non-California model, the bang isn't worth the buck to me.
Just to clarify, the vented fuel cap isn't what allows fuel to flow. Inside the carburetor is a needle valve connected to a spring and float, this regulates fuel flowing. Could leave the fuel cap off forever fuel will not flow if the needle valve works correctly. The vent can stop fuel flow by creating a vacuum but it isn't design to stop the flow of fuel. I agree with you that quality has changed on Honda products, 3 recalls in the past 5 years isn't good and disappointing since prices are still high. Only time will tell is they really last now but they are riding on their old reputation for the moment.
this video made me decide this is the particular generator i wanna get.
Great video,great presentation good job 👍
I really wanted to buy this generator… so I went to Camping World .. they had 2 of them but they wouldn’t sell me one. Turns out these are on a recall due to a fuel leak / fire hazard problem .. damn
Please slow down with technology,simpler it last longer✌🏻
Normally I would say you are right about that but it runs without that CO sensor and the bluetooth is just creature comfort, not needed to run it. Honda generators are awesome.
@@lehelzelenka207 totally agree but you probably know where we heading with all this ,here is funny thing just like other things I saw a barbeque with bluetooth at lowes,and trust me i.m no stranger to smart things I have 57 connection on my router and I love it yet when it gets to repair it gets complicated just like law and tax no go zone without protection 😜
Thanks for the great review. I am always impressed with your reviews and the condition of all of your equipment. You keep all of your equipment clean and looking brand new.
The best video recently! Which is the best Honda generator so far? It seems that 2200i is from more than 3 years...i guess there are better models on the market...or the old stuff is the best? ;)
I like the review.
I like the new Honda generator.
I even like the app.
Too bad Bluetooth only works up to about 10 metres. I place my Honda 25 metres away from my camp. Behind a large tree or in a gully so I can’t hear it. I’d like a remote shut off and will buy or build one for my next trip.
I’ll stick with my ‘old’ Honda.
If the Bluetooth could only fill it with gas and restart in the middle of the night. 😉
Now that would be nice!
That's why I have an extended run tank. It is worth it's weight in gold!
@@rickbraden4272 Mine is a six gallon marine fuel tank.
I always wanted a generator and bought this one and love it.
Well done vedio covered the generator cleanly and detailed with good info on the app and sensor possible issue and how to fix it or disconnect it and still be able to run it. 👍
I named my generator.......gus
Thanks for checking the sensor bypass. VERY helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
having that app to use as a WATT meter would be amazing. Sadly those hondas are far out of my price range. THanks for sharing. Since COVID my family and I have been living in our RV and i have been in the process of refurbishing a china made ETQ TG3000 to help with those no power moments.
I use the DC output on my 2200,’s so sorry to see it go.