Thank you, you are more than welcome! Yes, it looks like time is running out on these beautiful machines...crossing my fingers for you that you will be able to make this dream come true!
Absolutely beautiful. Can’t imagine an Airplane with a single floor with 4 engines still flying, before they all will go out of service. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
Second time I came to America we landed on this approach, and I was lucky enough to be sitting on the right-hand side of an Air India 747. Great fun! The captain warned us ahead of time so the scaredy cats onboard wouldn't panic. lol
I can feel you - this approach really is special! My first time was back in the days as a first officer on the B747-200 when it was still called the 'canarsie visual approach', tracking it with a VOR needle and the landmarks on the ground. ;-) Everyone was eager to fly it!
Main reason is the dense traffic in NYC airspace, so this apporach is curved to not interfere with traffic to the other airports in the area. Well, my company still uses the A340...not many alternatives available on short notice at the moment... ;-)
Very nicely done!!! Who knew that you had to bank to a plane a plane as large as the A340 like that - on (very) short final - just to avoid flying over South Ozone park
Anytime!, you are more than welcome! This time, I have to correct myself, though, as this was the -300 - mixed the flights up. Looks like I have been working too much lately... :-P Cheers!
Awesome approach and landing! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you'll be credited both in the video and in the description. Thanks!
The call-out is part of the RAAS (runway awareness and advisory system) which is a function of the enhanced ground proximity warning system. So, whenever approaching a runway - either on ground or in flight - the system provides us with a runway call-out.
I have to admire those that make the JFK Canarsie approach to 13L look easy, especially in the heavies. I practiced this approach many many times on FSX and it was always hard to roll out of the turn and nail the landing when flying by hand. What I don't understand here is whether the PF is flying the plane visually by hand all the way in.....or is the autopilot flying the plane on the RNAV Z down to the threshold? If the latter, then not as much respect haha.
I had to go to Foreflight and see it for myself, the RNAV 13L Z it's actually like that...crazy ( going to MFS to try it in VR haha ) beautiful approach!!
Stunning capture! May I feature this approach and landing in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. All the best to you!
Beautiful capture ! Do ypu mind if i use this clip in one of my videos ? Of course , link to your original video will be provided in the description. Good day :)
I'm just trying to work out what mode they were in if the turns we being made before the A/P came out, yet there's no use of the heading knob so it must be in managed mode?
You are right, we were flying in ‚Final Approach‘ mode which means that the flightpath is fully managed laterally and vertically. The autopilot receives the navigational data from the FMGS where the approach has been programmed. It is a so-called. ‚Non-precision approach‘ and has to be monitored closely.
@@PapaPadde Thanks I didn;t know that. I think I just ignorantly assumed it was pure visual once you reached the turn. But I now see there's RNAV approaches available. Nice! Talk about closely monitoring! That's a lot of trust in the coding!
My pleasure! Monitoring and thorough checking of the coding is vital for these kind of approaches, especially in weather with limited visibility. Glad you like it! :-)
Hey - great video. The aircraft made the standard RETARD call, around 20ft, but there was another call immediately after that I couldn't make out. What was it please?
Thank you! After the first 'retard' call came another but it was cut-off by the 'ten' call from the radio altimeter which is higher in priority according to system logic.
I agree and do remember that departure quite well! Nowadays, this is called either JFK 5 or SKORR 5 departure from runway 31L but both tracks lead via CRI VOR.
Hi Mate, that catch in your video was epic! Would it be alright if I included it in my next video? I'll credit your channel in the description and link back to the original.Cheers
Great video ! For the final turn, it seems to be manually flying, but we can hear the autopilot disconnection sound, I don t really get it. Could you explain me that plz ?
Thanks! The final turn has initially been flown with the autopilot on. Just after passing 400ft, the first officer, who was pilot flying during that approach, disconnected the autopilot for a manual landing.
Excuse me but I do not understand your question - would you mind being a bit more specific? In terms of stabilization criteria, the aircraft was established (configuration and speed wise) well before reaching 1000ft above ground. As the turn is part of the approach procedure, the late line-up with the runway‘s centerline is acceptable and normal in this case. ☺️
At 1:20 there is a 'five' call which still is part of the radio altimeter call-outs close to the ground. Is that the call you were referring to? Cheers!
Gee almost no time to get established on final (and a big plane too), overcorrect a bit, correct back last few seconds . . . is this normal for this runway at JFK?
Hey, thanks for your comment! If the weather conditions are good enough and the wind in favour of runway 13, they tend to use this approach in order to avoid interference with traffic bound to the other airports in the area. It is a dense airspace with heavy traffic. ;-) The approach is designed with a relatively long track about 90 degress off the runway until minimum at 1260ft, then a shallow turn until runway alignment at around 460ft.
I would love to one day maybe just maybe I can live the same experience and achieve my dream to become a pilot thanks for showing us things from your perspective I also have a question how did you manage to maintain such perfect landing speed at such decent and hard approach
Thank you for your comment and I am crossing my fingers for you that your dream will come true! Well, it is all about basic training of pitch and power which help to control the aircraft - no matter if it is a small plane or one as large as the A380 - the principles are all the same. :-)
If the weather is good enough but the winds in favour for runway 13, they prefer to asign this type of approach as it leaves more room for traffic at the other airports in the area. New York's airspace is just very crowded, so this helps a bit.
If the weather conditions are good enough and the wind in favour of runway 13, they tend to use this approach in order to avoid interference with traffic bound to the other airports in the area. It is a dense airspace with heavy traffic. ;-) The approach is designed with a relatively long track about 90 degress off the runway until minimum at 1260ft, then a shallow turn until runway alignment at around 460ft.
That's fantastic! Would you grant me permission to feature this clip in my upcoming project? I will ensure you are credited in the video and the description.
Sorry to answer so late, must have missed your question... RNAV approaches are defined as non-precision approaches and shall be flown with autopilot to minimum by company regulations. If the runway is clearly visible and identified earlier, we are allowed to continue manually, taking into account several contributing factors such as crew fatigue, traffic, weather, etc.
That surely sounds nice and I do envy you! ;-) But tell me, where is the benefit in hand-flying this approach from ASALT - especially after 9 hours flight time, as two-men crew, following an RNAV-approach where company policies used to be to fly this on auto-pilot? Does it enhance safety? Does it enhance efficiency? Is it more economic...?
The oh-so elusive 5 foot call out. Gorgeous.
And then ‘ballooning’ it 😆
As if the computer didn't want to say it
@@rinleezlmfaoh
@@Dannyp010what is ballooning it? mean?
@@JapaneseyapI think it means just slamming the plane into the ground as soon as you hear “10” or “5” so you don’t float down the runway too much
Beautiful landing.
Thank you - credit goes to our first officer. ;-)
@@PapaPaddedoes he have any channel or no
This is awesome. I dream to fly in a 340 before they all disappear. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, you are more than welcome!
Yes, it looks like time is running out on these beautiful machines...crossing my fingers for you that you will be able to make this dream come true!
I flown in a few 340’s on Cathy pacific. Nice planes but dated interiors
My dad flew on 1
😅😅😅😅 I've flown in AVRO in 1990s when i was 9 for a single time and haven't got chance to fly in aeroplane for 31 years!😂
Absolutely beautiful. Can't wait for this awesome bird to come out for MSFS !
Absolutely ridiculous… why mention that game?
@@jayj6951Why not? MSFS is a great simulator.
@@jayj6951I mean i really hope it release there
@@jayj6951 Why not?
@@jayj6951Xplane isn’t even that huge of a step up to MSFS in terms of physics. Yeah it’s better but it’s not that much better
An amazing approach to experience in a heavy!
Absolutely!
Absolutely beautiful. Can’t imagine an Airplane with a single floor with 4 engines still flying, before they all will go out of service. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
Thank you for your comment and glad that you like the video!
Yes, these classics are getting rare - let‘s enjoy them while we still can! 😃
Can't imagine being a pilot and turning the plane to land at such speeds.
autopilot turns the planes up until you hear the beeping sequence right after the turn, that’s when they turned autopilot off
Definitely lufthansa
Yup
Correct ✅
Why
@@DamplyDoosmooth operator
@@adrianchrostowski3613not just that, Lufthansa owns a lot of a340s so there's a high chance
What a stunning turn and landing, perfect!
The turn was done by the autopilot
@@boadameidan4143 wow amazing technology
Second time I came to America we landed on this approach, and I was lucky enough to be sitting on the right-hand side of an Air India 747. Great fun! The captain warned us ahead of time so the scaredy cats onboard wouldn't panic. lol
I can feel you - this approach really is special!
My first time was back in the days as a first officer on the B747-200 when it was still called the 'canarsie visual approach', tracking it with a VOR needle and the landmarks on the ground. ;-)
Everyone was eager to fly it!
@@PapaPadde what's the reason for such a tight approach? and flying an A 340
Main reason is the dense traffic in NYC airspace, so this apporach is curved to not interfere with traffic to the other airports in the area. Well, my company still uses the A340...not many alternatives available on short notice at the moment... ;-)
@@PapaPadde nothing wrong with the A 340 it was just because of the heavy nature of the short approach
😂😂 nice 🙂
Very nicely done!!!
Who knew that you had to bank to a plane a plane as large as the A340 like that - on (very) short final - just to avoid flying over South Ozone park
I live in NYC but I dont rlly understand why planes landing at JFK have to avoid South Ozone Park
Thanks for the video! Love the -600 series.
Anytime!, you are more than welcome! This time, I have to correct myself, though, as this was the -300 - mixed the flights up. Looks like I have been working too much lately... :-P Cheers!
The 600 has squared off LCD screens instead of these rounded CRTs
rolled out on final with two red/two white on the PAPI, all the way to perfectly planting the mains on the touchdown markers.
Mostly done by the autopilot 😅. You can hear the double/triple audible sound of of the autopilot being disconnected on very, very short final!!
@@nisachannel7077If he was in the B787 he could have just let it touchdown too.
Most unique A340 landing I ever saw. "Retard, Re-Ten. Five." Followed by smooth touchdown.
what does reten mean
Beautiful! That is like the old Kia Tak and the Lion Rock approach.
Good old times... ;-)
Not Kia Tak but Kai Tak
Very good landing. I could see all the status. Correct angle when tilting. Correct speed, Absolutely beautiful
that 5 callout. beautiful.
The "express way approach"! I LOVE the A343!
Expressway Visual is a former approach for 31 at LGA
@@jayo_zthe park way visual for 31 is still available the charts are as well
Canarsie Curve
I landed this approach onboard a B777-300ER. We had to do a go around due to traffic. Was a very fun experience!
That surely sounds interesting - nice experience!
I saw the same exact A340 flying over Pennsylvania a few weeks ago! I saw the 4 contrails too, pretty neat!
That was a nice right base landing, beautiful overall!!
The approach and bank was beautiful!
❤ beautiful
Very nice late turn, incredible.
reminds me of one airport...
Awesome approach and landing! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you'll be credited both in the video and in the description. Thanks!
Greetings and many thanks for your comment!
If you would like to use the clip and remember to mention its origins, you are more than welcome to!
Looks very like Kai Tak approach .
Didn’t know those things announced “approaching 13 left.” Like that. I’ve heard it when the planes are taxiing to the runway but not when landing.
The call-out is part of the RAAS (runway awareness and advisory system) which is a function of the enhanced ground proximity warning system. So, whenever approaching a runway - either on ground or in flight - the system provides us with a runway call-out.
The *Coolest Landing* for me *frfr*
Beautiful plane beautiful landing. I’d love to see more!
Thank you, appreciate that! There is more to come, do not worry! I am working on it. :-)
The Moment You Hear 5, It's BUTTER
I have to admire those that make the JFK Canarsie approach to 13L look easy, especially in the heavies. I practiced this approach many many times on FSX and it was always hard to roll out of the turn and nail the landing when flying by hand. What I don't understand here is whether the PF is flying the plane visually by hand all the way in.....or is the autopilot flying the plane on the RNAV Z down to the threshold? If the latter, then not as much respect haha.
AP2 (autopilot 2) in this video was on all the way until the plane was aligned with the runway. Its normally flown manually though
I think you can hear it at 0:47
와 드론 비행도 복잡한데 비행 파이럿은 신의 경지네요.
Amazing landing! These airplanes are getting rare day by day. My wish is to fly on all of them 🙂
I had to go to Foreflight and see it for myself, the RNAV 13L Z it's actually like that...crazy ( going to MFS to try it in VR haha ) beautiful approach!!
Absolutely agree! This is a special one…😃
Stunning capture! May I feature this approach and landing in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. All the best to you!
Hey there, absolutely - you are more than welcome to! Cheers!
Beautiful capture ! Do ypu mind if i use this clip in one of my videos ? Of course , link to your original video will be provided in the description. Good day :)
Hello and thank you! If you provide the link to my video and/or channel, you are more than welcome to use the clip. Cheers!
You know it was a butter landing when you hear "5" from the gpws callouts
I'm just trying to work out what mode they were in if the turns we being made before the A/P came out, yet there's no use of the heading knob so it must be in managed mode?
You are right, we were flying in ‚Final Approach‘ mode which means that the flightpath is fully managed laterally and vertically. The autopilot receives the navigational data from the FMGS where the approach has been programmed. It is a so-called. ‚Non-precision approach‘ and has to be monitored closely.
@@PapaPadde Thanks I didn;t know that. I think I just ignorantly assumed it was pure visual once you reached the turn. But I now see there's RNAV approaches available. Nice! Talk about closely monitoring! That's a lot of trust in the coding!
My pleasure! Monitoring and thorough checking of the coding is vital for these kind of approaches, especially in weather with limited visibility.
Glad you like it! :-)
So
Awesome!
Hey - great video. The aircraft made the standard RETARD call, around 20ft, but there was another call immediately after that I couldn't make out. What was it please?
Thank you! After the first 'retard' call came another but it was cut-off by the 'ten' call from the radio altimeter which is higher in priority according to system logic.
Amazing approach and landing! Canarsie climb is also as breathtaking and I'm sure you've flown that SID plenty of times too.
I agree and do remember that departure quite well!
Nowadays, this is called either JFK 5 or SKORR 5 departure from runway 31L but both tracks lead via CRI VOR.
bro I didn't know msfs had this good of graphics
Hi Mate, that catch in your video was epic! Would it be alright if I included it in my next video? I'll credit your channel in the description and link back to the original.Cheers
0:04 "No, the runway is over there!"
No way that’s what they said
@@mohammedrezin1488they didn’t lol it’s a joke
Nesse caso piloto automático fez o pouso? A pista tem radar que configura o piloto automático? Ou vai pelas cordenadas adicionadas manualmente?
Thats the one that flew over my condo nice stuff dude
That was beautiful
i love this video because we landed on that same airport and runway on turkish airlines it was an A330-300 and it was fight tk11
Full of little bright lights inside (in the cockpit) and outside (thru the windshield) 😉
Awesome!
The Canarsie visual?
Sort of - it was the RNAV Z to RWY 13L formerly know as the Canarsie approach.
@@PapaPadde oh right thanks
Safe landings
Love to see them!
Great video ! For the final turn, it seems to be manually flying, but we can hear the autopilot disconnection sound, I don t really get it. Could you explain me that plz ?
Thanks!
The final turn has initially been flown with the autopilot on. Just after passing 400ft, the first officer, who was pilot flying during that approach, disconnected the autopilot for a manual landing.
Nice visual approach
more like AP
Where was the stable approach?
Excuse me but I do not understand your question - would you mind being a bit more specific?
In terms of stabilization criteria, the aircraft was established (configuration and speed wise) well before reaching 1000ft above ground. As the turn is part of the approach procedure, the late line-up with the runway‘s centerline is acceptable and normal in this case. ☺️
how did you gain access to the cockpit
Legends. Well done crew!
What was that call-out at 1:20 sounded like re something?
At 1:20 there is a 'five' call which still is part of the radio altimeter call-outs close to the ground.
Is that the call you were referring to? Cheers!
Just before that
Oh, that should be one of the 'retard' call-outs that was cut-off by the '10' call, so it sounded like 're-ten'... ;-)
Beautiful landing 🛬
Gee almost no time to get established on final (and a big plane too), overcorrect a bit, correct back last few seconds . . . is this normal for this runway at JFK?
Hey, thanks for your comment!
If the weather conditions are good enough and the wind in favour of runway 13, they tend to use this approach in order to avoid interference with traffic bound to the other airports in the area. It is a dense airspace with heavy traffic. ;-)
The approach is designed with a relatively long track about 90 degress off the runway until minimum at 1260ft, then a shallow turn until runway alignment at around 460ft.
What I find interesting is that in a minute 30 seconds the plane on the runway
I would love to one day maybe just maybe I can live the same experience and achieve my dream to become a pilot thanks for showing us things from your perspective I also have a question how did you manage to maintain such perfect landing speed at such decent and hard approach
Thank you for your comment and I am crossing my fingers for you that your dream will come true!
Well, it is all about basic training of pitch and power which help to control the aircraft - no matter if it is a small plane or one as large as the A380 - the principles are all the same. :-)
@@PapaPaddeThanks
Which place 🤔
JFK
Insane 😮
they were at 400ft buy the time he lined up. why would the approach to jfk have such a situation? dont they like to center-up a good 5 miles out?
If the weather is good enough but the winds in favour for runway 13, they prefer to asign this type of approach as it leaves more room for traffic at the other airports in the area. New York's airspace is just very crowded, so this helps a bit.
Amazing
Was this a visual approach? I did hear the ap go off but the approach looked pretty unusual for me.
It was a special type of RNAV approach called RNAV Z 13L which requires a final turn beginning at 1260ft (point 'LEISA').
@@PapaPadde ohh ok. Thanks for the explanation! 😃
Anytime!
Wow that was on Point
That was badass!
Give him a raise
So, why such a short final?
If the weather conditions are good enough and the wind in favour of runway 13, they tend to use this approach in order to avoid interference with traffic bound to the other airports in the area. It is a dense airspace with heavy traffic. ;-)
The approach is designed with a relatively long track about 90 degress off the runway until minimum at 1260ft, then a shallow turn until runway alignment at around 460ft.
Now I know it’s so easy to spot a runway
This Airbus is made from part from all over the world, Yet we all can't seem to share this world.
What approach is this exactly?
It‘s the RNAV (GPS) Z 13L approach.
Oh wow!
Nice Kai Tak approach!
This is insane! Definitely a military pilot on a civilian aircraft!
Nope ;)
Did you think that because they immediately lost the centerline when they clicked the autopilot off? 🤦🏻♂️
that was a scary firm landing
Shouldn't the turn for the final be further away from the runway?
Normally, yes but not on this approach which makes it special and demanding.
@@PapaPadde Thanks, regards from Brazil
🥇🏆🔟✅
GOAT Landing
Isn’t it hard enough to land a plane without the system calling you names?
You mean retard?😂
Retard! Retard!
Retard simply means to pull back the throttle.
LOL! No, he's not calling you a RETARD! He means to RETARD the throttles!! (I watch YT just for the laughs!)
That's fantastic! Would you grant me permission to feature this clip in my upcoming project? I will ensure you are credited in the video and the description.
Thank you for the feedback and yes, I have no objection if I will be credited. ;-)
Nice Job great video 👍
Thank you! :-D
nice landing
Thank you - although, I was not on the controls, so credit to our first officer on that day! ;-)
Amazing!
Noise abatment approaches are the new Kai Tak
Is this real or a simulator plzzz tell me I’m confused?
This is real.😉
Which airline is this?
As a delta pilot, I could've buttered that landing lol.
Hater stay MAD? I would to if I weren't part of a SUPERIOR airline....
Brother is NOT a delta pilot
awesome
Beautiful landing, definitely lufthansa or klm, or american airlines. I wish you the best to reach the million :D
Thank you! :-D
@@PapaPadde your welcome :D
Likely Lufthansa, they land with the A/THR out
What was your VREF?
I do not remember exactly but should have been something around 130+ kts.
Why did you hold out the other pilots hand?
Sorry, I do not understand your question - what do you mean?
Wow, are approaches like that common at that airport?
If the wind is in favour for runway 13 and weather conditions good enough, they like to give you this approach.
Perfect
Wow that crosswind was coming in heavy on the lineup!
If I remember it correctly, the wind was about 170 degrees with a bit more than 20 knots, so yes, we have had a bit of crosswind. :-)
I didn't realize the autopilot was capable of flying the actual hard turn to final, just confirming that it is?
Yes, this one has been flown using the autopilot until short final and the lateral path that has been programmed does allow for these type of turns.
@@PapaPadde I guess rtf fixes?
Exactly, this has been programmed using radius to fix legs.
are they allowed to hand fly that approach if they so desired? I know LH has extremely tight hand flying approach rules and policies. @@PapaPadde
Sorry to answer so late, must have missed your question... RNAV approaches are defined as non-precision approaches and shall be flown with autopilot to minimum by company regulations. If the runway is clearly visible and identified earlier, we are allowed to continue manually, taking into account several contributing factors such as crew fatigue, traffic, weather, etc.
First time hearing Honeywell RAAS on Airbus
If I had the money and the nerves, I would definitely like to be a pilot
Why not turn off the autopilot sooner?
I fly this approach a few times a year and we hand fly from ASALT
That surely sounds nice and I do envy you! ;-)
But tell me, where is the benefit in hand-flying this approach from ASALT - especially after 9 hours flight time, as two-men crew, following an RNAV-approach where company policies used to be to fly this on auto-pilot?
Does it enhance safety? Does it enhance efficiency? Is it more economic...?