“At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.” Matthew 11:25
He knows the Bible on an intellectual level but knowing lord Jesus personally is something completely different, Holy Spirit caused me to sense this as well
I think one of main things is that he’s trying to comprehend something that a toddler can understand. A gospel is so simple that it’s hard when some intelligent people hear the word and think “dang it’s that simple: no way. I’ve been thinking intellectually my whole life, and now something this life changing is simple as 1,2,3.” Imagine being told you’re right , how smart you’re by many people,and knowing you have gift of being naturally intelligent compared to the average person. Not only more pride will cause you to be puffed up ,but the fact that now you’re put up against a wall to make this decision of giving up of what you’ve thought for so long to be truth in your eyes for the only Truth;Jesus Christ. That’s a wrestle. The rich young ruler for example. Dude had cash and mad access. So when Jesus tested the ruler to make the decision of it’s me or it’s your possessions the ruler walked away sad. That’s all he knew for so long, and all eyes have had that wrestle and have it still from time to time. It’s the idol within the wicked human heart or it’s the LORD. It’s the decision we must make. However once those of us who have come to repentance by and through Christ alone we pray for the lost and be an example. So others will see Christ. In us that some may want the same🤞🏾🙏🏾
@@James_follows_Christ beautifully said brother in Christ ! love you bro . That’s it there ! Some times you can be too smart for your own good Forsure. Shalom !
no he didnt. gods word never says hell tell you someones saved or not. His word says to test the spirits and use actual investigation. you are incapable of investigation because you dont know JP. his local church does, and his family does, you dont. the church is meant to come to know people in faith hope and love. His local church has seen him come to faith.
The day Jordan Peterson's heart is at last enlightened by the Lord and his eyes are opened is going to be a truly great day. Do not stop praying for Dr Jordan Peterson. John 9:25 whether he be a sinner or not, I know not, but one thing I do know is that I was blind and now I see. Luke 15 7 In the same way, there is more joy in heaven over one lost sinner who repents and returns to God than over ninety-nine others who are righteous and haven’t strayed away!
I think Jordan Peterson has helped a boatload of people. I admire him greatly and have a lot of respect for him. It was wonderful seeing him stand up to the government when he refused to cave in to their rules about the pronoun usage. I watched him through a lot of that wishing desperately that I had half of his courage. But I do cringe whenever I hear him start talking about God. But he can still be saved. I believe God is using him still in many ways and I pray that through all of his discussions that he would discover the truth of who God is and come to know Him personally. 🙏🙏🙏
God uses everything and everyone in His sovereign way for His own Glory.... To state that God is using Jordan doesn't really conclude anything. He is a non believer trying to influence those in The Church... Mark and avoid.
I like JP, but he’s such an intellectual, very smart and great at making people see through societal BS, and he knows how to use big words, but that is not relationship with the Lord. We don’t have to be a person with clout and influence-all of that is meaningless. We come to the Lord with nothing but our sin and shame and knowledge that we are NOTHING and Christ is everything. I pray Peterson and his panel come to know the Lord intimately. ✨ Also, the end of this video brought me to tears. ♥️
Why one without the other? And do you think you're the only one to say or think this? Of course people are praying for him. It's not necessary for this video to state it....
Wes Huff summed it up best in the JRE: he's a moralist who sees Jesus only as an archetype, while ignoring the real man behind it. Jesus is not just an itinerant 1st century rabbi, not just an archetype, but the Son of God.
Why Christians NEED to Watch Out for Wretched. Todd Friel preaches the same false Gospel of works like John MacArthur. The Lordship "Salvation" works. Calvinism heresy as well. John MacArthur rejects the blood of Christ. I CRINGE over Todd Friel.
Before I was saved, I listened to his lectures on Genesis over and over again and that was when I first had an appreciation for Scripture, even if at the time I thought it was just a book. Eventually I hungered for the entire truth and started attending church again, which ultimately led my wife and I to a Gospel-preaching church and we were both saved shortly after. My life belongs to Christ. That being said, I now find it impossible to listen to someone that does not believe and has not been regenerated and therefore does not have the Holy Spirit to discern the truth. As much as I like him and pray that he comes fully to Christ, I wish he would stay in his lane and stop the over-intellectualization and abstraction of Scripture. The fact that there are Atheists, Catholics, and Orthodox Jews but not one reformed theologian on a panel discussing the Gospels is unfortunate to say the least. These people are blind to the truth and have a tendency towards immense pride. Dr. Peterson won't answer the simple question of whether or not he believes because the simple truth is, he does not. He thinks it's a story that represents some truths about who we are, not a historical, literally true Word of God in which every word was breathed out by God Himself. The Bible is not a self-improvement tool in which you can use when it pleases you. If you don't believe that, you are the last person who should be speaking about it as you are completely unqualified. I'm extremely grateful to him for who he is and the truth he does speak, and can only pray that he will be saved one day. 1 Cor 2:14 - The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 2 Cor 4:4 - In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Knowing what a parachute is for and putting it on/jumping out of a plane are two different things. At this point, JP just knows whats inside the bible. I hope his intellectual journey really becomes a spiritual journey leading to faith for him.
"Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." Acts 17:11 NIV Notice they were Jews, not yet believers. Yet the Word says they are of noble character. Not sure why Todd wants to flex on Peterson, who, by his own admission, is still examining to see if these things are so.
not with a grain of salt, guy is one of the most well-read, deep thinkers on the planet. But whomever we listen to, we must be wise and discerning. Taking things with a grain of salt is a lot like not taking them at all. Meaning, what you are really saying is don't listen to Jordan. On that front I would say, it all depends on the subject matter.
@ I hear you about being discerning; as Christians we should do that with any content we consume outside of the Bible, but to say that Jordan Peterson is “one of the most well-read, deep thinkers on the planet” is taking it quite far if you ask me. Anyway, I’m not referring to when he’s speaking about any subject, and neither is the video. We’re talking about the fact that he is poising himself as some kind of expert on the Gospel when he’s not even a Christian, and that’s what Christians should take with a grain of salt if you ask me. ✌🏽
Happy to see this addressed; ‘interesting’ to see how he is now nearly always flanked almost exclusively by some of the most prominent faces of Roman Catholicism/Eastern Orthodoxy.
I understood what he was saying. He’s saying that there’s emphasis on God’s creation being good, and the process that was used to create by God was his word. Then he says Christ is that manifestation of the word via his patterns of behavior and existence. Hopefully that helps
Oh my gosh, I am so glad I’m not the only one who cringes…and I’m just a ‘layman’! The Gospel of The Lord Christ Jesus is simple, even children can understand it. 1 Cor. 15:1-4.
Interesting paradox - while criticizing Peterson, the author fails to articulate any real danger. Consider: 1. Peterson actively encourages people (especially young men) to engage with the Bible and Christianity 2. While his interpretations may be theologically imprecise, they aren't anti-Christian 3. The author himself admits that Peterson: - Is intelligent and influential - Correctly diagnoses the "crisis of meaning" in society - Effectively directs people toward seeking transcendence Moreover, the author explicitly states: "I don't dislike Jordan Peterson. Does any conservative not actually appreciate Jordan Peterson?" One could argue that Peterson actually serves as a "bridge" for people who might otherwise never engage with Christianity. Even if his interpretations don't align with orthodox theology, he introduces people to a path that might lead them to a deeper interest in Christianity. Therefore, the title "Why Christians NEED to Watch Out for Jordan Peterson" seems rather exaggerated and isn't fully supported by the presented arguments. A more accurate title might be "Why Christians Should Be Aware of Peterson's Biblical Interpretations' Limitations" - which is significantly less alarmist.
while Prager is not a Christian, I do find it refreshing when he in these series takes scripture more at its face value meaning. There may be layers or parallels, but first things first (or first readings first), I say. He, like all of us, just needs to take God's whole revelation to heart (namely the Word made flesh who came the first time not as the Jews hoped) and trust in Him who can not just kill the body.
@@lovemuffin4521 maybe an evangelical was invited but didn't accept. Also, I think each panel member is a regular contributor to the daily wire. The genesis may have been these guys having casual conversations then just decided to formalize and film it. The lack of Evangelical representation doesn't imply anything nefarious.
I understand your critic which at least you've ... I'll say coherently articulated so hats off. Jordan Peterson's got a foot in the camp. It won't be long till you'll hear. On thing I've actually noticed is that Christians (percentage of y'all) aren't patience at all. If you feel or sense you just don't get the guy then just stop watching. Your wish is yours to keep.
Being I guess, a “philosopher”, I’ve always concluded from interviews of him that he’s happy to accept the existence of God, insofar as it seems to make the most sense from a reasoning/critical analysis standpoint. Problem is I’ve not heard him profess actual belief in Christ or a profession that He is his Savior. So that he’s open to the possibility of some other god/non-god or physical phenomenon being that which created our planet and the universe. Which isn’t making God the foundation of his belief.
Peterson is a brilliant charismatic polymath with whom I agree on most issues. But he aint no theologian. I have long suspected his understanding of the Gospels that is, amongst other things, over-intellectualized to the point of incomprehensibility and irrelevance.
His Bible series back in 2017-2018 helped nudge me back from the wilderness of agnosticism/atheism/deluded-hyper-intellectualism. But the further I got into the Word, the more I find his Big Brain tedious.
Jordan Peterson played a strange part in me coming to faith in Christ. Watching him speak about the Bible really opened my eyes to its significance. Now I am praying that his eyes may also be opened to its significance! Praise the Lord, and let us keep praying for the salvation of J.P. 🙏🏽
however when i was an anti theist Jordans view on the Bible actually was a part of me opening up to it. cause like yea who am i to dismiss this book that was and is so important. Now i am actually a born again Christian. Pray for him
You hit the nail on the head. I like Peterson but I’ve always been a little concerned about his confident approach to spiritual things. I’ve been concerned with people especially young men listening to him and being lead astray. The point you make at 4:08 is right on. It’s funny that God doesn’t reveal himself more clearly until after you become saved. Hmmm must be something with that whole faith thing. Isn’t there a new way to say that, “iykyk”, right? Guess God figured that out long before these gen alpha kids.
This video makes me so glad I'm not an evangelical anymore because the critique is so shallow. You don't understand, for instance, that the logos can't be both the force that orders nature AND personal. That's what keeps fundamentalists (and libs to be fair) from getting a deeper understanding of the Bible.
I'm tired of people saying " Christian's should watch out for JP" .... Are most" Christians" this vulnerable? If so, they need to learn more, and gain some wisdom instead of depending on certain Christian leaders to mother them through every philosophical thought uttered by an intellectual. Encourage them to learn enough to separate the wheat from the chaff...to practice discernment...rather than holding their hand through every FREAKING idea! Leaders - push people to think! Christians- Do the work! Grow up! Learn something all by yourself! I'm so sick of this ignorance enabling, devouring mother behavior in Christian circles. It's helping no one!
Ben Haden once pointed out that Bible believers often tell new Christians, to "get with it" as soon as possible- in other words, read as much Scripture as you can, as often as you can. That's because there's so much gobbledygook posing as spirituality out there, a new Christian could get to where they don't know whether they're washing or hanging out.
Please remember people are turning to Christ every single day. They are saved instantly but everything else comes with time. Many, especially those who do not come from Christian backgrounds, will take time to be truly discerning. They are navigating fresh waters, learning how to find a solid church, reading the word for the first time. Which takes time read through and even more time to grow in understanding. The Christian world has a lot of baby Christians. It is a good thing they’re coming. But if they have no idea YET how to weed through these things can we be grateful for anyone taking time to warn,guide,and direct? This isn’t the bone we need to pick. The ones neglecting to do so or teaching falsely are the ones we need to unite against
I agree with you. Shouldn't people be capable of hearing something and sifting the different perspectives to gain what is valuable and discard what is not? But you are right, it is christian "leaders" who want to make people believe that even hearing other peoples thoughts is dangerous, that make people incapable of discernment, and then conveniently step in to do their thinking for them. It is a big red flag to me, especially from channels like this one that never has anything to say but who is wrong about this or that.
“Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”” Genesis 3:1
I think having John MacArthur on Jordan Peterson's panel would probably be too confrontational. Ray Comfort would be a better choice. Ray would have the same message but with a smile 😆
Bottom line with Peterson: He's simply a very natural 'natural man' (and such were we). Purely through human wisdom, he's trying to discern "god," asking like Nicodemus, "How can these things be!!?" (Jn3:9). "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND them because they are spiritually discerned" (1Cor.2:14). Let's pray that God gives him the right to become a child of God, born of God.
I don't think we need to "WATCH OUT" for Jordan Peterson. Certainly we can be conscientious about things he says. I think Jordan Peterson is at a point where he intellectually understands the Gospel. This is a place where EVERY eventual Christian was at one time. He is not far from the Kingdom of God. Perhaps through God's Spirit he may one day come to a saving knowledge of Yeshua the Christ
Finally someone points this out! This is my biggest issue with him. Yes he is intensely intelligent but to have a non born again person be listened to by so many Christians about the Bible is very concerning.
Same here! There is nothing more joyous than watching God regenerate a soul who was once lost and is now found. Hallelujah Glory be to God in the Highest
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I don’t see what all the outrage is about personally, he doesn’t really pretend to be a believer of Christ to begin with, the Bible has always had practical implications for philosophers, which is mostly how our civilization began. The DailyWire is a political organization after all, not a religious one.
Peterson has confessed to be a believer, and deeply so. But he says he doesn’t like talking about it for a few reasons I can’t remember. Even if he wasn’t a professing christian, he still is deceiving people who follow him
Bishop Robert Barron is certainly born again and an excellent theologian. I don't know much about Johnathan Pageau but he seems to make his rounds among Christian apologetics. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I know Dennis Prager is not a Christian and I'm unfamiliar with the rest of the panel. Dr. Peterson's wife converted to Christianity last year so hopefully God will work through her to bring him to Christ.
We as "Christians" bashing or complaining about each other while we are "growing" I do not think we should do that. We definitely should not be claiming to be the "truthful ones" is far from being humble. I for one think of myself as a dog lapping up crumbs from our saviors table. How blessed I am for such crumbs
If Jordan isn't receiving the Bible, he isn't receiving the Word, which means he isn't receiving the Father either. If we have Christ's Word which He claims is truth, why shouldn't we claim to have the truth?
JP knows scripture through the lens of an intellectual…I don’t know if he’s saved or not but I personally believe he knows the Bible through his smarts. We need to pray for his salvation IF in fact he isn’t saved AND THE L-rd will speak to him through HIS WORD.
Thanks. I've found it hard to express what's wrong with JP; I think he's doing a lot of good from a human POV, but he's not a Christian. And the way he explains the Bible - so frustrating. He likes the stories, but derives his own conclusions and philosophies and comes up with a way that that's what the Bible is really meant to say to us... and he doesn't seem to consider the history as real; he's just deriving 'meta' lessons out of it.
Thank you, Wretched, Todd. This needed to be pointed out as knowledge puffs up but wisdom builds up. God is amazing, already knowing how we "can be" when we rely on "ourselves" alone. Great video!
Thank you for posting this. I have watched Peterson a couple of times but not the type of communication I am attracted to. I greatly appreciate that your posts can be trusted.
I don’t even know that Jordan Peterson would call himself a Christian, yet I keep seeing videos of him talking with people about the Bible and Christianity. It’s dangerous.
I feel you misrepresented Jordan. He is not your traditional evangelical. He is an apologetic philosopher. The salvation he preaches is not of the soul but of the mind. We who wrestle with God: eloquently illustrates how the psychology of man struggles to comprehend God and point to the Biblical stories as the key to understanding ultimate truth.
Time-stamps 2:57 , 3:06 - According to John MacArthur, the Logos was viewed as a “principle of reason,” a “principle of order”, a “principle of structure”, a non-personal force floating around in the universe. 3:27 - “And even the common people saw the Logos… as being responsible for the way things were.” 3:40 - The Gospel of John’s point: let me introduce you to the fact that the Logos is not an impersonal force; the Logos is a person, not just a concept.
I’ve been feeling this about Jordan soon after being saved last year. I listened to his “he who wrestles with God” seminar but then found Grace to You. 1 Corinthians 1:18 through 1 Corinthians 2:6 rings true
My husband and I went to JP’s lecture titled, “Those who wrestle with God” basically out of curiosity because we knew he wasn’t born again. He even wore his famous two toned suit. However, it was merely a PhD level word salad. He just talked and talked in circles never really pinned down any points.
As far as I can tell, Jordan is trying to find the hidden meaning behind the words of the bible. Problem is, their is not a hidden meaning behind the words,,, the words themself are the meaning. So, rather than getting the message, he keeps trying to look behind.
He is in the greatest place of darkness because he doesn't believe the Bible. He believes in the power of the story but he doesn't believe for a second nor does he even feel it necessary that it be truth about actual people, events, and facts.
Growing in Christ is step by step day by day. I remember the day when I was saved, I suddenly became a scholar. Not. Time is needed and cringing is allowed.
Why don't you make your content more engaging and interesting instead of regurgitating the same points on the scripture because you're captured by your audience and denomination. I just don't have patience for this petty stuff.
Peterson’s view of the gospels are diluted with the outlooks of Nietzsche (an atheist) and Jung (an occultist). Unless he reads the bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit,his view of the Word is obscured.
Powerful stuff at the end of this video. Praise God for Todd's effort to bring that young man to Christ. The Holy Spirit of God was clearly operating in the young man mind.
Thank you for this video! Yes, people are searching, they’re hungry, may we make ourselves available to talk to others, pray for them, minister to them and share the gospel. Praying for Dr. Peterson and his family, he’s getting closer & closer ..may the Lord in His grace open his eyes and save him and his family!
He’s philosophically and intellectually interpreting the bible. I’ve heard him speak about the bible and Christianity he’s way off the mark, not even close to the truth.
If you read Proverbs with a deeper word study, similar to how "love" is actually several different words with very different meanings, several types of "fool" are talked about. Some of their behaviors overlap, and some of them are almost opposites. The "unreasonable" fool is often very intellectual. But they have 2 major actions that contrast the falsehood vs someone walking in wisdom: 1. They are always asking - but never coming to the truth. 2. They love to be deemed wise. If you think about that, it's only natural that this type of person flocks to: Teaching positions Psychiatry Counseling Elitist think tanks, such as so called "rationality" groups (so called, because it breaks down/reveals itself to be a false claim, whenever you get them to actually examine and question their own beliefs, come to a new conclusion, then goldfish/reset the next day and reveal tactful avoidance of facing the conclusion _they made._ why? Because they don't actually want to follow what they _know_ is true.) And unfortunately, being fed the esteem they desire only strengthens their commitment to unreason. Jp isn't likely to turn to God in actual, while he's soaking in and loving the praise. Something deep inside him needs to come to a breaking point - where the falsehood and emptiness are to much to endure in himself. Where he needs God or nothing else matters.
Idk what GOD is doing in Mr.Peterson’s life so I’m not going to speak on that at all,but I think Mr.Peterson is trying to hold on to his knowledge. He’s been blessed with an intelligent mind,but he’s overthinking Jesus. It fathoms an intelligent minded person considering the gospel is so easy to understand and be received; A 5 year old can understand it,but what we gotta laugh everything down at the feet of Jesus. What we think and know and ask the LORD to teach us HIS way, and surrender to HIM all ideas. For sure it doesn’t happen overnight,but step by step by day being sanctified by the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit within the individual
@@greglitteral4802 when it's fundamentally wrong, it guides those who listen earnestly away from the truth. It has nothing to do with religious speech, it's more of the underlining of theological issues he suffers from. Galatians 5:9. You have no idea how bad it truly is.
You sound condescending. The Bible is simple, yet no man has mastered it. Simple, Roman’s 10: 4 & Romans 10:13. And as the man on the cross said to him, “ remember me” Luke 23: 42. Yet there are things written that we don’t understand. Yet what we know is all we have to know Christ is the only way. God could be using Jordan to reach people you can’t. And we need intellectuals, like John Lennox, who can talk to people who are above our pay grade, that talks to them on their level. God works in mysterious ways. Have you heard of that saying before?
Agree. Just because he uses the language of psychology to affirm the existential reality of Christ doesn't entail a denial of the Faith. Sure there's a risk that he might end up denying the faith a-la mealy mouthed church leaders of the last three hundred years. Until Christ-deniers are citing JP in debates, aren't there more obvious fronts to defend? Also, to link the logos with love - doesn't that imply personality?
There are some things that unbelievers CAN gain and learn from reading scripture. But the UNDERSTANDING of scripture comes from the Holy Spirit, which they lack. Pray he and Shapiro gain it one day.
You don't become this successful in these times as an influencer, politician, actor or musician if you're not corrupt and you're not using your platform to corrupt souls. People need to stop idolizing people.
I'm glad you made a video on this. I see a bit of an anti-spirit here. I've commented on a few of his short videos on his "Gospel" series (I haven't seen full episodes). In my opinion; He's trying to think his way to God and salvation. He's trying to put God in a box. He's trying to share his interpretation of the Gosepl with an alternate motive than the power of God unto salvation. He's searching with his head and not his heart. He's convoluting the Gospel and not preaching sin, hell, repentance, and the saving atonement of Jesus Christ. I think he's a smart man, but I think these teachings are dangerous for many young listeners and Christians.
As I am glad you bring this to the front, but I must ask do born again Christians should have some discernment, I mean we do have the Holy Spirit after all, leading us into truth.
I hope we are all praying for Jordan. A man who holds up the Bible as a source of wisdom, whether he understands it or not, is at least a man gasping for fresh air.
I'm glad you are addressing this. I think it's better to quote Festus' quip to Paul, "You're great learning is driving you insane!" While God does say that his word will not return unto him void, I fail to see what benefit this will have.
I find it more depressing there has to be a warning at all. The man is clearly not a Christian, he has literally said so himself. I greatly appreciate his intellect and writings. His lectures and commentary are top-notch. But when a person says they are not Christian, I don't think, "Gee, I should really take theological advice from them."
No it's because they understand that John is talking to Greeks. You're the one who doesn't understand it. You just think you do and regurgitate Catholic doctrines. God is never called the Word, but it makes sense when talking to the Greeks about their Logos philosophy. It was their philosophy John hijacked and incorporated into Christianity. You guys think there's two Gods and you're 100% wrong.
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THANK YOU! I have been saying this same thing. Although much less eloquent than this video. I just didn't know how to articulate it well but now I can just send this video to a few of my friends.
“At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.”
Matthew 11:25
He knows the Bible on an intellectual level but knowing lord Jesus personally is something completely different, Holy Spirit caused me to sense this as well
Yeah same I sense that here too. I don’t think he truly knows the lord he just likes to look like a wise guy all the time
Let’s keep praying for his salvation 🙏🏼
I think one of main things is that he’s trying to comprehend something that a toddler can understand. A gospel is so simple that it’s hard when some intelligent people hear the word and think “dang it’s that simple: no way. I’ve been thinking intellectually my whole life, and now something this life changing is simple as 1,2,3.” Imagine being told you’re right , how smart you’re by many people,and knowing you have gift of being naturally intelligent compared to the average person. Not only more pride will cause you to be puffed up ,but the fact that now you’re put up against a wall to make this decision of giving up of what you’ve thought for so long to be truth in your eyes for the only Truth;Jesus Christ. That’s a wrestle. The rich young ruler for example. Dude had cash and mad access. So when Jesus tested the ruler to make the decision of it’s me or it’s your possessions the ruler walked away sad. That’s all he knew for so long, and all eyes have had that wrestle and have it still from time to time. It’s the idol within the wicked human heart or it’s the LORD. It’s the decision we must make. However once those of us who have come to repentance by and through Christ alone we pray for the lost and be an example. So others will see Christ. In us that some may want the same🤞🏾🙏🏾
@@James_follows_Christ beautifully said brother in Christ ! love you bro . That’s it there ! Some times you can be too smart for your own good Forsure. Shalom !
no he didnt. gods word never says hell tell you someones saved or not. His word says to test the spirits and use actual investigation. you are incapable of investigation because you dont know JP. his local church does, and his family does, you dont. the church is meant to come to know people in faith hope and love. His local church has seen him come to faith.
The day Jordan Peterson's heart is at last enlightened by the Lord and his eyes are opened is going to be a truly great day. Do not stop praying for Dr Jordan Peterson.
John 9:25
whether he be a sinner or not, I know not, but one thing I do know is that I was blind and now I see.
Luke 15 7
In the same way, there is more joy in heaven over one lost sinner who repents and returns to God than over ninety-nine others who are righteous and haven’t strayed away!
Amen. It will a great day when Jordan is saved. But I think that will also the day he is no longer famous.
No judgment here? Seek the LORD not your theology
I think Jordan Peterson has helped a boatload of people. I admire him greatly and have a lot of respect for him. It was wonderful seeing him stand up to the government when he refused to cave in to their rules about the pronoun usage. I watched him through a lot of that wishing desperately that I had half of his courage. But I do cringe whenever I hear him start talking about God. But he can still be saved. I believe God is using him still in many ways and I pray that through all of his discussions that he would discover the truth of who God is and come to know Him personally. 🙏🙏🙏
I concur
God uses everything and everyone in His sovereign way for His own Glory.... To state that God is using Jordan doesn't really conclude anything. He is a non believer trying to influence those in The Church... Mark and avoid.
I like JP, but he’s such an intellectual, very smart and great at making people see through societal BS, and he knows how to use big words, but that is not relationship with the Lord. We don’t have to be a person with clout and influence-all of that is meaningless. We come to the Lord with nothing but our sin and shame and knowledge that we are NOTHING and Christ is everything. I pray Peterson and his panel come to know the Lord intimately. ✨ Also, the end of this video brought me to tears. ♥️
I’m shocked believers are looking to Peterson for Biblical insight. He has none. As a nonbeliever, the way of the cross is foolishness to him.
Because they lack discernment... it's really not that hard for believers with discernment to immediatly percieved the flawed views of Peterson.
The title should be something like "Why Christians NEED to Pray for Jordan Peterson" instead of watch out, as in avoiding.
Yes we should pray for Jordan Peterson but we should also avoid false teachings no matter the source.
Why one without the other? And do you think you're the only one to say or think this? Of course people are praying for him. It's not necessary for this video to state it....
Until he gets it
He should be avoided
Knowledge of the TRUTH
Has escaped him
Wes Huff summed it up best in the JRE: he's a moralist who sees Jesus only as an archetype, while ignoring the real man behind it. Jesus is not just an itinerant 1st century rabbi, not just an archetype, but the Son of God.
Jordan is out of his league when it comes to Biblical Truth. The wisdom of the world is folly to God.
I pray the Lord reveals Himself to Jordan and the rest of this panel. Thank you for this video, many are decieved by Jordan and men like this
Jordans biggest obstacle is pride, and more specifically his intellect. Hes too smart for his own good so to speak.
Why Christians NEED to Watch Out for Wretched. Todd Friel preaches the same false Gospel of works like John MacArthur. The Lordship "Salvation" works. Calvinism heresy as well. John MacArthur rejects the blood of Christ. I CRINGE over Todd Friel.
Before I was saved, I listened to his lectures on Genesis over and over again and that was when I first had an appreciation for Scripture, even if at the time I thought it was just a book. Eventually I hungered for the entire truth and started attending church again, which ultimately led my wife and I to a Gospel-preaching church and we were both saved shortly after. My life belongs to Christ.
That being said, I now find it impossible to listen to someone that does not believe and has not been regenerated and therefore does not have the Holy Spirit to discern the truth. As much as I like him and pray that he comes fully to Christ, I wish he would stay in his lane and stop the over-intellectualization and abstraction of Scripture. The fact that there are Atheists, Catholics, and Orthodox Jews but not one reformed theologian on a panel discussing the Gospels is unfortunate to say the least. These people are blind to the truth and have a tendency towards immense pride.
Dr. Peterson won't answer the simple question of whether or not he believes because the simple truth is, he does not. He thinks it's a story that represents some truths about who we are, not a historical, literally true Word of God in which every word was breathed out by God Himself. The Bible is not a self-improvement tool in which you can use when it pleases you. If you don't believe that, you are the last person who should be speaking about it as you are completely unqualified. I'm extremely grateful to him for who he is and the truth he does speak, and can only pray that he will be saved one day.
1 Cor 2:14 - The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
2 Cor 4:4 - In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Wow he helped and now you're turned into these brain dead theologians and forgot who was there for you.
The key word in your whole comment is.."again" you already knew scripture.
This comment is spot on!
Well said and a double AMEN!!!
Crazy comment LOL. So prideful
Knowing what a parachute is for and putting it on/jumping out of a plane are two different things.
At this point, JP just knows whats inside the bible. I hope his intellectual journey really becomes a spiritual journey leading to faith for him.
"Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." Acts 17:11 NIV
Notice they were Jews, not yet believers. Yet the Word says they are of noble character. Not sure why Todd wants to flex on Peterson, who, by his own admission, is still examining to see if these things are so.
Prayers, for Jordan and his Family! ✝️
Reminds me of this verse: “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble!” James 2:19.
So glad you’re addressing this!! More Christians need to learn to take anything Jordan Peterson says with a grain of salt.
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You can absolutely obtain wisdom from JP’s works while being discerning on matters about the Bible.
not with a grain of salt, guy is one of the most well-read, deep thinkers on the planet. But whomever we listen to, we must be wise and discerning.
Taking things with a grain of salt is a lot like not taking them at all. Meaning, what you are really saying is don't listen to Jordan.
On that front I would say, it all depends on the subject matter.
@@RexNicolausyes I agree with you pray for his salvation
@ I hear you about being discerning; as Christians we should do that with any content we consume outside of the Bible, but to say that Jordan Peterson is “one of the most well-read, deep thinkers on the planet” is taking it quite far if you ask me. Anyway, I’m not referring to when he’s speaking about any subject, and neither is the video. We’re talking about the fact that he is poising himself as some kind of expert on the Gospel when he’s not even a Christian, and that’s what Christians should take with a grain of salt if you ask me. ✌🏽
Knowing of the Lord Jesus is one thing. Being known by the Lord Jesus is another.
Happy to see this addressed; ‘interesting’ to see how he is now nearly always flanked almost exclusively by some of the most prominent faces of Roman Catholicism/Eastern Orthodoxy.
I understood what he was saying. He’s saying that there’s emphasis on God’s creation being good, and the process that was used to create by God was his word. Then he says Christ is that manifestation of the word via his patterns of behavior and existence. Hopefully that helps
Oh my gosh, I am so glad I’m not the only one who cringes…and I’m just a ‘layman’!
The Gospel of The Lord Christ Jesus is simple, even children can understand it. 1 Cor. 15:1-4.
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Interesting paradox - while criticizing Peterson, the author fails to articulate any real danger. Consider:
1. Peterson actively encourages people (especially young men) to engage with the Bible and Christianity
2. While his interpretations may be theologically imprecise, they aren't anti-Christian
3. The author himself admits that Peterson:
- Is intelligent and influential
- Correctly diagnoses the "crisis of meaning" in society
- Effectively directs people toward seeking transcendence
Moreover, the author explicitly states: "I don't dislike Jordan Peterson. Does any conservative not actually appreciate Jordan Peterson?"
One could argue that Peterson actually serves as a "bridge" for people who might otherwise never engage with Christianity. Even if his interpretations don't align with orthodox theology, he introduces people to a path that might lead them to a deeper interest in Christianity.
Therefore, the title "Why Christians NEED to Watch Out for Jordan Peterson" seems rather exaggerated and isn't fully supported by the presented arguments. A more accurate title might be "Why Christians Should Be Aware of Peterson's Biblical Interpretations' Limitations" - which is significantly less alarmist.
At 5 minutes, he does say why
while Prager is not a Christian, I do find it refreshing when he in these series takes scripture more at its face value meaning. There may be layers or parallels, but first things first (or first readings first), I say. He, like all of us, just needs to take God's whole revelation to heart (namely the Word made flesh who came the first time not as the Jews hoped) and trust in Him who can not just kill the body.
I agree. One thing we have to ask why are we not represented at the table in the first place.
Why would you want to be at that table? Unless you want to give them the Gospel, but besides that I don't see a reason.
@@lovemuffin4521 maybe an evangelical was invited but didn't accept. Also, I think each panel member is a regular contributor to the daily wire. The genesis may have been these guys having casual conversations then just decided to formalize and film it. The lack of Evangelical representation doesn't imply anything nefarious.
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged I agree. My question is more a self reflection on evangelicalism and our place in the public square
I thought that within minutes of opening his casting.
I understand your critic which at least you've ... I'll say coherently articulated so hats off. Jordan Peterson's got a foot in the camp. It won't be long till you'll hear. On thing I've actually noticed is that Christians (percentage of y'all) aren't patience at all. If you feel or sense you just don't get the guy then just stop watching. Your wish is yours to keep.
I felt it as well when watching Peterson: 'This guy's very intellectual but is he really saved?'
No. And I gave up listening after his terrible discussion with Dawkins. He couldn't give one straight answer to simple questions.
How can you possibly listen to this guy and ask if he saved? He thinks he can mock God and walk away scot free.
I have been leery of him ever since he came to the forefront of today's thinkers.
Me too. Anyone who is touted as Mr. Answer man, just keep at arm's length. I don't listen to him at all. I stick to the Bible.
He's a great "thinker", he just isn't able at this time to view the Bible with anything more than his "thinking mind". Hopefully he'll mature on day.
Being I guess, a “philosopher”, I’ve always concluded from interviews of him that he’s happy to accept the existence of God, insofar as it seems to make the most sense from a reasoning/critical analysis standpoint. Problem is I’ve not heard him profess actual belief in Christ or a profession that He is his Savior. So that he’s open to the possibility of some other god/non-god or physical phenomenon being that which created our planet and the universe. Which isn’t making God the foundation of his belief.
I mean....one would hope that young men would have something called a "father" who is a man and can teach their sons. Is this too old fashioned?
Pray for Peterson that he may truly accept salvation in Christ.
That's the explanation we were looking for!
This is what we called using our talents for the kingdom of God.
Thankyou very much Todd Friel.🙏
Peterson is a brilliant charismatic polymath with whom I agree on most issues. But he aint no theologian. I have long suspected his understanding of the Gospels that is, amongst other things, over-intellectualized to the point of incomprehensibility and irrelevance.
I tried watching one video and gave up. If there was a message it was wasted on me but it may just be me 😮
Thanks for posting this. I’ve been concerned people with take him as gospel.
His Bible series back in 2017-2018 helped nudge me back from the wilderness of agnosticism/atheism/deluded-hyper-intellectualism. But the further I got into the Word, the more I find his Big Brain tedious.
Jordan Peterson played a strange part in me coming to faith in Christ. Watching him speak about the Bible really opened my eyes to its significance. Now I am praying that his eyes may also be opened to its significance!
Praise the Lord, and let us keep praying for the salvation of J.P. 🙏🏽
I cringe when Dr. Peterson talks about the Bible. It always sounds like an unbeliever's view of the Bible.
however when i was an anti theist Jordans view on the Bible actually was a part of me opening up to it. cause like yea who am i to dismiss this book that was and is so important. Now i am actually a born again Christian.
Pray for him
Great vid -
Love to see people wrestling with the reality of God…
It’s hard to humble ourselves - but truth finds a way.🙏
The Ending of this made me CRY! The Lord is amazing! I am wondering how that young man is doing after speaking to you Todd!
You hit the nail on the head. I like Peterson but I’ve always been a little concerned about his confident approach to spiritual things. I’ve been concerned with people especially young men listening to him and being lead astray. The point you make at 4:08 is right on. It’s funny that God doesn’t reveal himself more clearly until after you become saved. Hmmm must be something with that whole faith thing. Isn’t there a new way to say that, “iykyk”, right? Guess God figured that out long before these gen alpha kids.
This video makes me so glad I'm not an evangelical anymore because the critique is so shallow. You don't understand, for instance, that the logos can't be both the force that orders nature AND personal. That's what keeps fundamentalists (and libs to be fair) from getting a deeper understanding of the Bible.
I'm tired of people saying " Christian's should watch out for JP" ....
Are most" Christians" this vulnerable? If so, they need to learn more, and gain some wisdom instead of depending on certain Christian leaders to mother them through every philosophical thought uttered by an intellectual. Encourage them to learn enough to separate the wheat from the chaff...to practice discernment...rather than holding their hand through every FREAKING idea!
Leaders - push people to think!
Christians- Do the work! Grow up! Learn something all by yourself!
I'm so sick of this ignorance enabling, devouring mother behavior in Christian circles. It's helping no one!
Proverbs 27:17
Ben Haden once pointed out that Bible believers often tell new Christians, to "get with it" as soon as possible- in other words, read as much Scripture as you can, as often as you can. That's because there's so much gobbledygook posing as spirituality out there, a new Christian could get to where they don't know whether they're washing or hanging out.
Please remember people are turning to Christ every single day. They are saved instantly but everything else comes with time. Many, especially those who do not come from Christian backgrounds, will take time to be truly discerning. They are navigating fresh waters, learning how to find a solid church, reading the word for the first time. Which takes time read through and even more time to grow in understanding. The Christian world has a lot of baby Christians. It is a good thing they’re coming. But if they have no idea YET how to weed through these things can we be grateful for anyone taking time to warn,guide,and direct? This isn’t the bone we need to pick. The ones neglecting to do so or teaching falsely are the ones we need to unite against
I agree with you. Shouldn't people be capable of hearing something and sifting the different perspectives to gain what is valuable and discard what is not? But you are right, it is christian "leaders" who want to make people believe that even hearing other peoples thoughts is dangerous, that make people incapable of discernment, and then conveniently step in to do their thinking for them. It is a big red flag to me, especially from channels like this one that never has anything to say but who is wrong about this or that.
“Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?””
Genesis 3:1
The most honest answer he’s ever given is that he acts as if he believes.
My mother is not saved but she knows that Jordan Peterson is off the mark with his theology. This might imply she is listening to me a bit.
I have yet to see JP discuss with say John Lenox, Hugh Ross, John MacArthur, or any Christian theologian or apologist.
Jung is Petersen's prophet.
He has an episode with john Lennox on his podcast.......
@@IsaiahWilson-k4o And I'm pretty sure he's had Robert Barron on his podcasts before, or at least other Daily Wire shows.
@@IsaiahWilson-k4o Thanks I found it, still JP is non committal.
There is one way to learn how to be a man and that's the example that given to us in the bible Jesus Christ
Exactly, not from listening to Peterson.
I think having John MacArthur on Jordan Peterson's panel would probably be too confrontational. Ray Comfort would be a better choice. Ray would have the same message but with a smile 😆
Bottom line with Peterson: He's simply a very natural 'natural man' (and such were we). Purely through human wisdom, he's trying to discern "god," asking like Nicodemus, "How can these things be!!?" (Jn3:9). "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND them because they are spiritually discerned" (1Cor.2:14). Let's pray that God gives him the right to become a child of God, born of God.
If the Biblical is spiritually discerned why do Christian not agree with what it is saying? Why is there so many different Christian denominations?
I don't think we need to "WATCH OUT" for Jordan Peterson. Certainly we can be conscientious about things he says. I think Jordan Peterson is at a point where he intellectually understands the Gospel. This is a place where EVERY eventual Christian was at one time. He is not far from the Kingdom of God. Perhaps through God's Spirit he may one day come to a saving knowledge of Yeshua the Christ
Finally someone points this out! This is my biggest issue with him. Yes he is intensely intelligent but to have a non born again person be listened to by so many Christians about the Bible is very concerning.
“Finally someone who actually has an audience points this out”
That ending made me cry!! Praise God!!❤❤❤
Same!
Same here! There is nothing more joyous than watching God regenerate a soul who was once lost and is now found. Hallelujah Glory be to God in the Highest
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I don’t see what all the outrage is about personally, he doesn’t really pretend to be a believer of Christ to begin with, the Bible has always had practical implications for philosophers, which is mostly how our civilization began. The DailyWire is a political organization after all, not a religious one.
Peterson has confessed to be a believer, and deeply so. But he says he doesn’t like talking about it for a few reasons I can’t remember.
Even if he wasn’t a professing christian, he still is deceiving people who follow him
@@ScribeAlicious deceiving how?
Haha! I'm glad someone talked about these folks on the panel. I was beginning to wonder who these folks were.
Bishop Robert Barron is certainly born again and an excellent theologian. I don't know much about Johnathan Pageau but he seems to make his rounds among Christian apologetics. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I know Dennis Prager is not a Christian and I'm unfamiliar with the rest of the panel. Dr. Peterson's wife converted to Christianity last year so hopefully God will work through her to bring him to Christ.
We as "Christians" bashing or complaining about each other while we are "growing" I do not think we should do that. We definitely should not be claiming to be the "truthful ones" is far from being humble. I for one think of myself as a dog lapping up crumbs from our saviors table. How blessed I am for such crumbs
If Jordan isn't receiving the Bible, he isn't receiving the Word, which means he isn't receiving the Father either. If we have Christ's Word which He claims is truth, why shouldn't we claim to have the truth?
JP knows scripture through the lens of an intellectual…I don’t know if he’s saved or not but I personally believe he knows the Bible through his smarts. We need to pray for his salvation IF in fact he isn’t saved AND THE L-rd will speak to him through HIS WORD.
Thanks. I've found it hard to express what's wrong with JP; I think he's doing a lot of good from a human POV, but he's not a Christian. And the way he explains the Bible - so frustrating. He likes the stories, but derives his own conclusions and philosophies and comes up with a way that that's what the Bible is really meant to say to us... and he doesn't seem to consider the history as real; he's just deriving 'meta' lessons out of it.
Thank you, Wretched, Todd. This needed to be pointed out as knowledge puffs up but wisdom builds up. God is amazing, already knowing how we "can be" when we rely on "ourselves" alone. Great video!
The Gospel is not understood with the mind but with the heart, only God can do that
Yes, because Jordan often curses while he talks. I quit listening to him a ling time ago once I heard him do this. I pray for him though.
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Thank you for posting this. I have watched Peterson a couple of times but not the type of communication I am attracted to. I greatly appreciate that your posts can be trusted.
8:14 that's a beautiful moment!!!
I don’t even know that Jordan Peterson would call himself a Christian, yet I keep seeing videos of him talking with people about the Bible and Christianity. It’s dangerous.
I feel you misrepresented Jordan. He is not your traditional evangelical. He is an apologetic philosopher. The salvation he preaches is not of the soul but of the mind. We who wrestle with God: eloquently illustrates how the psychology of man struggles to comprehend God and point to the Biblical stories as the key to understanding ultimate truth.
Time-stamps
2:57 , 3:06 - According to John MacArthur, the Logos was viewed as a “principle of reason,” a “principle of order”, a “principle of structure”, a non-personal force floating around in the universe.
3:27 - “And even the common people saw the Logos… as being responsible for the way things were.”
3:40 - The Gospel of John’s point: let me introduce you to the fact that the Logos is not an impersonal force; the Logos is a person, not just a concept.
BTW The last person he needs on this panel is a Calvinist, that will bring no clarity to the Gospels what so ever.
I’ve been feeling this about Jordan soon after being saved last year. I listened to his “he who wrestles with God” seminar but then found Grace to You. 1 Corinthians 1:18 through 1 Corinthians 2:6 rings true
My husband and I went to JP’s lecture titled, “Those who wrestle with God” basically out of curiosity because we knew he wasn’t born again. He even wore his famous two toned suit. However, it was merely a PhD level word salad. He just talked and talked in circles never really pinned down any points.
As far as I can tell, Jordan is trying to find the hidden meaning behind the words of the bible.
Problem is, their is not a hidden meaning behind the words,,, the words themself are the meaning.
So, rather than getting the message, he keeps trying to look behind.
He is in the greatest place of darkness because he doesn't believe the Bible. He believes in the power of the story but he doesn't believe for a second nor does he even feel it necessary that it be truth about actual people, events, and facts.
Spot-on, Todd!!! Jordan may be intelligent, but he's no theologian!
Growing in Christ is step by step day by day. I remember the day when I was saved, I suddenly became a scholar. Not. Time is needed and cringing is allowed.
Why don't you make your content more engaging and interesting instead of regurgitating the same points on the scripture because you're captured by your audience and denomination. I just don't have patience for this petty stuff.
Peterson’s view of the gospels are diluted with the outlooks of Nietzsche (an atheist) and Jung (an occultist).
Unless he reads the bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit,his view of the Word is obscured.
Powerful stuff at the end of this video. Praise God for Todd's effort to bring that young man to Christ. The Holy Spirit of God was clearly operating in the young man mind.
JP’s show about the Bible is Matt. 11:25 before your eyes. He has hidden these things from the wise and the prudent
Thank you for this video! Yes, people are searching, they’re hungry, may we make ourselves available to talk to others, pray for them, minister to them and share the gospel. Praying for Dr. Peterson and his family, he’s getting closer & closer ..may the Lord in His grace open his eyes and save him and his family!
I have zero issues with JP or his panel discussing and dissecting the Gospels. I don't need to hear from an "evangelical Protestant theologian."
I get that his work deserves respect and has value, but honestly, not one single theologian on the panel? Not one?
He’s philosophically and intellectually interpreting the bible. I’ve heard him speak about the bible and Christianity he’s way off the mark, not even close to the truth.
I do like Dr. Peterson as well, but I always wonder why he is NOT accepting Jesus Christ, he would do far better if he made that step!!!
Absolutely. Nothing about the jews on the panel. First to the jew then the gentiles.
If you read Proverbs with a deeper word study, similar to how "love" is actually several different words with very different meanings, several types of "fool" are talked about.
Some of their behaviors overlap, and some of them are almost opposites.
The "unreasonable" fool is often very intellectual. But they have 2 major actions that contrast the falsehood vs someone walking in wisdom:
1. They are always asking - but never coming to the truth.
2. They love to be deemed wise.
If you think about that, it's only natural that this type of person flocks to:
Teaching positions
Psychiatry
Counseling
Elitist think tanks, such as so called "rationality" groups
(so called, because it breaks down/reveals itself to be a false claim, whenever you get them to actually examine and question their own beliefs, come to a new conclusion, then goldfish/reset the next day and reveal tactful avoidance of facing the conclusion _they made._ why? Because they don't actually want to follow what they _know_ is true.)
And unfortunately, being fed the esteem they desire only strengthens their commitment to unreason.
Jp isn't likely to turn to God in actual, while he's soaking in and loving the praise. Something deep inside him needs to come to a breaking point - where the falsehood and emptiness are to much to endure in himself. Where he needs God or nothing else matters.
Does orthodox christainity follow the purpose (20:31) of why John wrote the book?
Idk what GOD is doing in Mr.Peterson’s life so I’m not going to speak on that at all,but I think Mr.Peterson is trying to hold on to his knowledge. He’s been blessed with an intelligent mind,but he’s overthinking Jesus. It fathoms an intelligent minded person considering the gospel is so easy to understand and be received; A 5 year old can understand it,but what we gotta laugh everything down at the feet of Jesus. What we think and know and ask the LORD to teach us HIS way, and surrender to HIM all ideas. For sure it doesn’t happen overnight,but step by step by day being sanctified by the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit within the individual
It was about time someone talked about Peterson's approach to the Bible
He’s not speaking religiously and states that over and over in his many lectures. Don’t be afraid when someone doesn’t echo your dogma.
@@greglitteral4802 when it's fundamentally wrong, it guides those who listen earnestly away from the truth. It has nothing to do with religious speech, it's more of the underlining of theological issues he suffers from. Galatians 5:9. You have no idea how bad it truly is.
@ you are wrong
You sound condescending. The Bible is simple, yet no man has mastered it. Simple, Roman’s 10: 4 & Romans 10:13. And as the man on the cross said to him, “ remember me” Luke 23: 42. Yet there are things written that we don’t understand. Yet what we know is all we have to know Christ is the only way. God could be using Jordan to reach people you can’t. And we need intellectuals, like John Lennox, who can talk to people who are above our pay grade, that talks to them on their level. God works in mysterious ways. Have you heard of that saying before?
Agree. Just because he uses the language of psychology to affirm the existential reality of Christ doesn't entail a denial of the Faith.
Sure there's a risk that he might end up denying the faith a-la mealy mouthed church leaders of the last three hundred years.
Until Christ-deniers are citing JP in debates, aren't there more obvious fronts to defend?
Also, to link the logos with love - doesn't that imply personality?
There are some things that unbelievers CAN gain and learn from reading scripture. But the UNDERSTANDING of scripture comes from the Holy Spirit, which they lack. Pray he and Shapiro gain it one day.
Thaannkkk youuuuu for letting MacArthur explain! 🙏🏼💯✨
I'm sure happy to be part of a community that's so wise and better than everyone else
You don't become this successful in these times as an influencer, politician, actor or musician if you're not corrupt and you're not using your platform to corrupt souls. People need to stop idolizing people.
I'm glad you made a video on this. I see a bit of an anti-spirit here. I've commented on a few of his short videos on his "Gospel" series (I haven't seen full episodes). In my opinion; He's trying to think his way to God and salvation. He's trying to put God in a box. He's trying to share his interpretation of the Gosepl with an alternate motive than the power of God unto salvation. He's searching with his head and not his heart. He's convoluting the Gospel and not preaching sin, hell, repentance, and the saving atonement of Jesus Christ. I think he's a smart man, but I think these teachings are dangerous for many young listeners and Christians.
I completely agree. His "intellect" seems to be tripping him up. I just want to say to him, you know Dr. Peterson, sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar.
As I am glad you bring this to the front, but I must ask do born again Christians should have some discernment, I mean we do have the Holy Spirit after all, leading us into truth.
Wonderful video! Thank you, all Glory to God !
I hope we are all praying for Jordan. A man who holds up the Bible as a source of wisdom, whether he understands it or not, is at least a man gasping for fresh air.
I'm glad you are addressing this. I think it's better to quote Festus' quip to Paul, "You're great learning is driving you insane!"
While God does say that his word will not return unto him void, I fail to see what benefit this will have.
I think Festus would use proper grammar (or does that count as spelling?), though. (If he wrote in English, that is)
I find it more depressing there has to be a warning at all. The man is clearly not a Christian, he has literally said so himself. I greatly appreciate his intellect and writings. His lectures and commentary are top-notch. But when a person says they are not Christian, I don't think, "Gee, I should really take theological advice from them."
Lots of good preachers out there to use as frame of reference beside John MacArthur.
I watched that clip about John 1 and I was suprised nobody was able to properly explain the Word.
No it's because they understand that John is talking to Greeks. You're the one who doesn't understand it. You just think you do and regurgitate Catholic doctrines. God is never called the Word, but it makes sense when talking to the Greeks about their Logos philosophy. It was their philosophy John hijacked and incorporated into Christianity. You guys think there's two Gods and you're 100% wrong.
@@Maga2025Murica Two? Sir, I believe in the Trinity. Three distinct Persons in One God- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. What do you believe?
@Maga2025Murica are you aware of the Dunning-Kruger effect? It's dripping from all elements of your post.
Completely agree! Good analysis! You put my thoughts into words!
Love your videos, I’m omnivorous and pension off at 37 now 43 getting $83,000 biweekly. This video has truly inspired me in so many ways!!!
I’m feeling truly inspired.
Can you provide additional insights about the bi-weekly subject you mentioned?
$83k biweekly is extraordinary, please more context.🙏🏻
I raised 175k and Anna Kathleen Sanford is to be thanked. I got my self my dream car 🚗 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Anna K. Sanford is the kind of person one needs in his or her life! I got a home, a good wife, and a beautiful daughter. Note!:: this is not a promotion but me trying to make a point that no matter what happens, always have faith and keep living!!
Whoa 😲 I know her too!
Miss Anna Kathleen Sanford is an incredible person who has brought immense inspiration and positivity into my life.
I meagerly kicked off with $2k, and the results have been Jaw-dropping TBH!!!
Thank you for posting this. People are taking his words as truth.
Great video!
Thank you Brother!!
THANK YOU! I have been saying this same thing. Although much less eloquent than this video. I just didn't know how to articulate it well but now I can just send this video to a few of my friends.
Like many other famous people I think they don’t face the sin issue, Trump, Peterson, Rogan, ex SEAL guy. Etc. oh Prager.
Todd; You need to check your ego,
WHAT😂