This was my first M-Tronic. Been very happy. I did put a 20" lightweight bar. Have other from MS 170 to ported 661R. If you only had 1 saw, the MS.362 C is a good choice. Big help having a great Stihl dealer 10 minutes away. Parts guys really know saws.
Stihl sells a kit with 3/4 wrap, bigger side cover, 2x dogs and roller chain catcher. I run one with this kit and 25" light bar for climbing. Doesn't pull my harness down at all even though I don't wear harness suspenders. Really good for reach once the smaller stuff is out of the way.
Never had a Stihl that didn't do a great job. Now, pick the saw for the job you want to do and weigh in the price you want to pay. Reliability is very important to me, might be 3 or 4 miles in the woods! Been cutting wood for over 40 years and Stihl is my favorite work saw.
We have two of those and two Timberwolves and 1562 XP compatibility they're exactly in the same range I know both saws and all three run great for our tree service not a problem with them 362 damn good saw I got nothing to say bad about it love it very much
I have one and run a 20 inch bar it cuts great and have never had a issue I think a 24 inch bar is a little much for mine but mine is all I need I love it
Glad you mentioned the Echo 620. I have a 462 and Echo 620P and love both saws but that 462 gets heavy after a while then I switch to my 620 but one is none and two is one so...lol
I have a selection of 60cc and 70cc saws, on a day when I'm gonna cut firewood all day I always grab the bigger saw. They don't weigh that much more but they cut a lot faster.
Nice vid there bro👍 like that you are filming different sizes to cut. This year I bought ms 362 cm, and I'm really satisfied, we have mainly hardwood and the saw runs great.
They were a good all-in-one saw for $600. Lots of firewood burners in my area ran them. Then they put a computer in it and jacked the price up, you may aswell buy the 462, they oil better.
Buy a West Coast Saw Bark box & their air filter system and the saw really comes alive! Compared to an 036 Pro it’s different 362 is more top end with the 036 it’s more torque but both cut excellent as they both have the bark box and 20” bars. Will try a 25” on the 036 Pro to see how it cuts but have to break it in more!
I really liked your video. Very good review and honest. I like how you just said your opinion and what you use it for. I feel that most people use the saw. Thank you.
I fix saws freelance for a big firm that does some tree work and a lot of vegetation clearance in the UK. They have a fleet of these and they get worked very hard with less-than-ideal maintenance day to day. I'd rate them as a good quality, robust general purpose saw that's easy to work on.
Who ever says that doesn't have one or if they have one should try sharpening the chain, it's a 60cc saw one of the best 60cc out there ive run most of them if you stick to a 18 inch bar
I cut 50 plus cords of firewood per year. I bring my MS362, MS361 and MS661c to the woods with me. I run 16 inch bars on the 362 and 361 and 25 inch bar on the 661c. I've had the 362 for 8 years and it's the saw I use 70% of the time. It always starts with 1 or 2 pulls. I wouldn't use it nearly as much if I had a longer bar on it. I am planning to get an MS462c soon. I'll run that with a 20 inch bar.
Man you got a sub from me, I’ve watched a lot of your videos and never realized I wasn’t. Just picked up a 362c used for a pretty good price. Think if I was buying new the echo 590 would’ve been hard to pass on for the price difference
I have used Stihl brand chainsaws and rotary saws in the fire department for 30+ years for roof ventilation and forcible entry work. Extremely reliable equipment in a world where “failure is not an option”, so to speak. Personally, I own (2) MS-170s and (1) MS-362C. I typically use a 170 and the 362 on the same task. One of the 170’s stays in my truck during Fall and Winter for clearing blow-downs from the backroads where I live in East Tennessee. I bought the 362C with the standard 20” bar plus a 25” bar, and spare chains for both. I generally only use the 362C w/25” bar when I need to for big stuff. I step-down to the 20” bar when I don’t need the 25” like for bucking to make rounds for splitting, etc. Having a 170 nearby is great for all the limbing and smaller stuff. IMO the 362C with 20” and 25” bars is a beast when used the right way.
Just Subscribed. I just went to the stihl dealer in town and they wanted over $900 for the 362, the Husky dealer wants $810 for a 562xp with a 28in bar and the echo dealer said I can get a 620PW with a 27in bar for $649. Needless to say, I didn't even pick up the 362 to feel it because for that price I would buy a 572xp instead. Thank you for the video
Thanks👍🏻 I seriously don’t know how Stihl stays competitive with their pricing being so high. At the end of the day folks just need a dependable “wood cutter.” Plus with Echo’s 5 yr warranty, no brainer for me😆
@@IndianaDoug that is just it. Everyone was hooked with the 044 around here. They have been forever chasing the legacy of power weight and longevity. I have never had the pleasure of running one. Thanks for the reply! Have a great Christmas man!
I do like this saw. But I paid $225 for it. If I were buying new, $100 extra is a no brainer. But I’m sorry, there’s no way I’d pay new price for saws in 2023, I’ll stick to previously owned and fix them up myself. I don’t really have a choice tbh😁
I fell dead standing fir and pine snags for a living here in southern Oregon, I use my 362C M-tronic, 28" super lite bar, open exhaust, hi flow air cleaner on all trees 15 to 30 inches. It's not a muscle saw, just a medium weight rig. M- tronic IMHO is not as good as an older carburetor saw. You simply must keep the carb and linkage area spotless, clean it good after every session.
My saws aren't professional models but they suite my needs for down blow/ storm debris, helping my neighbors out on occasion and cutting small amounts of firewood three out of four seasons the Husqvarna 455 Rancher and Echo 590 Timberwolf have been awesome. The Rancher is 55.5-56cc and the Timberwolf is 59.8cc. They're rated to pull a 24 inch bar and chain but like you I think its too much. I run the stock 20 inch bars with 3/8 inch chains. The majority of what I limb and buck is balsam fir, semi- chisel is just fine. When I get in the occasional cherry or birch I run full chisel. My neighbor next door who is here seasonal, has a Stihl 311, whether its a farm saw or pro saw I think the sub 60cc saw have a heavy powerhead. You know you're going to be a little sore the next day but I like the heavier powerheads especially for bucking. Just my preference. My older 340 and 350 are tired and low compression. I just retired them both. My aunt and uncle bought me a 120i battery powered saw a couple years ago for Christmas, its really nice for smaller limbing and rounds. I may buy another smaller gas powered Husqvarna next year. I miss the 340 and 350, the 455 is sweet though, make no mistake. Have you heard from Kensie lately, I was wondering how he's doing in Louisiana? I was a subscriber of his before and no sign of Bayou Country Powersaws.
I just chatted with Kenzie yesterday. I was asking him about the leather chip guard he made for that 7900 he just built Buckin. He seems to be pretty busy these days.
I just love my 362. I think the weight power ratio is top. For me and my needs its just fine. I never had an issue with it in the five years i am running it. Would I buy it again? Well there is a Stihl MS400….
I ran one for the first time this past Saturday. I thought it felt fine. I too think it gets a little too much hate. But, when compared to it's piers, the 620 and the 562xp...I'd pick it last. So I guess it is somewhat deserving of the bad rap.
I love my 362c with a razor sharp chain 20" bar eats like a slob. Smaller stuff I run an Ms 180 and larger trees my husky 372xp. Take care of you're equipment and it should take care of you 😎😎👍👍😉😉be safe out there happy cutting
Unmentioned is the Husqvarna 362. It was offered in a small and large mount configuration that I believe was the ultimate 60cc saw. Having stated that. I have the reputation of being a STIHL fan and product promoter. However, amoung the Echo cs 620 and Husqvarna 562xp it is not the top dog. It simply will not oil like the other two saws in stock form without modification which limits its" ability to pull a longer bar. Many climbers and light loggers in my immediate area go with the Echo because of its' torque and durability. When it comes to plastic on these saws the STIHL fuel tank and brake flag is fragile. Fact of the matter. Excellent vid Mr. Doug.....
I run a 361, they quit making them in 09 I believe. I don't have a 362 because the 361 still does everything I need, and does it well. I.m off grid in central BC, it gets -40 here, and I'm off grid, fire wood is my heat. Not to mention, I'm 71 and I can pack this saw around. Should the 361 quit, I'll buy a 362. They work hard, and don't let you down if you treat them right.
362 was my first pro saw I bought it in 2010 ish, I've never been disappointed with it but I will agree with your diagnosis that saw was built for a 20" bar. A 24" killed it so much that I sent it off to Brad Snelling and had him port it when I did that I had no intention of getting any other saws.... now I'm up way past 20! I used it almost exclusively as a firewood saw cutting 30+ pickup loads a year for about 8 years, in 2018 I picked up a 620 echo at Bunyan at show price since then the 363 has been riding the pine a lot more than not. But not because it is a bad saw but because the echo is comparable in power and weight and I don't want to kill my ported saw, its the only one that I have that is ported by someone who knows what they are doing! The rest of my ported saws are hack jobs by Red Neckerson lol.... (me)
@@IndianaDougand semi retiring the 362 saved its life this fall my son sat the 620 behind my excavator and I backed over it 🤬 fortunately the ground was soft and saved the case and jug the 590 and 620 share plastic so I was able to pick up a blown up 590 cheap and cannibalize it to restore the 620....
MS 362 is the best saw for firewood cutting. Agree 100%. I gotta disagree that it's "heavy". Because it is not. It has worse power/weight ratio compared to 462, but 462 is heavier saw and take quite a bit more gas. Just rhetorical question - are you gonna pull MS 881 everywhere you go because it has a better power/weight ratio, but is heavy as hell? Of course not. So this "weight" question is a bit debatable.
Hey you’re not wrong! I like this saw. I was referring to the haters saying it’s a “heavy turd” but I’d like to debate the need for a 60cc class saw as the power we’re getting out of 50s now is getting close, with much less weight. Perhaps on another video…
@@IndianaDoug Good point. Just today i cut 2 foot diameter dry ash tree with it. 20 light bar. Nice, nimble, good front - back balance. I simply like it a lot. But as you said correctly in video - different job means different saw. And for a whole work day at the woods, limbing, bucking etc. this is the saw that has enough power and yet is not too heavy for me... In my perspective, every pound of weight makes a huge difference after like 8 hours. Eg. 462, yeah, great saw, but i'm tired more quickly with it. I mostly cut a dead trees that storms brought down, so branches entangled with other trees, where push - pull scenarios are not clear etc, and here this lighter, yet still "pro" saw shines for me. got 211, 251, 362 and now i'm gonna add 661 for a bigger jobs. Been "eyeballin" it for like a year and saving some cash 🙂 Take care and most important, stay safe!
@@t4t4s0l I too cut a ton of Ash here in Indiana. They’re never ending. But yes, a strong 50cc is my go to when I’m “production mode.” I really like the 250/251s, for the money they are exceptional. Anything bigger I find myself grabbing a 70/80cc saw (typically my Dolmar PS7900)
Good luck with er bub. Mine is a 2012 bought it cheap at 380$$$ smoking deal...She screams I'm sure you'll be happy with it when ya get it dialed in😎😎👍
The 362 is a decent saw for a firewood operation. As you said tho it's a Stihl, so the price is very high, and for alot less money I believe their are far better options out there. But that being said, it is not as bad as some portray, it's a very rugged and reliable saw, if your fine with the cost then it may be for you.
@steve henaire the 362 is a great saw, but way overpriced for what it is IMO @ $800. For that money a Husq 562,572 would be way more saw. For $400 and a good port job an echo 4910/501 would be right there power wise and less weight. If your not totally dependent on the saw and have limited mechanical abilities, a 372 or 440 clone may be a great option as well. But if your looking for a plug and play, the big names is where I would stay. Hope this helps a bit. Regardless I hope you just enjoy whatever purchase you decide to make and stay safe out there.
My biggest issue with my Stihl Ms 362 is that dang eco start. When storms hit and its time to perform my dang Husq 450 starts within 5 pulls. And the Stihl takes alot of finicky tricks to get it started. And out the field when gas runs out and if you haft to use a husq oil gas mix in the Stihl,it became a unhappy camper and totally bogged down to where it wouldn't run. I just dropped it off this am at the Stihl shop saying it needs a tune up and the Husq Oil mix bogged totally to where it want stay runnin. And the main guy there said that shouldn't of made a difference. But I have 200 plus hours on my Husq because it always starts and is always ready when the high wind and tornadoes are done.. And I dont even have 20 hours on my 362 mainly cause the dang eco start always messes me up when i dont have time to mess with it...
I HERE YA MAN THEY AINT CHEAP .. IM GLAD I BOUGHT MINE 10 YEARS AGO AND THAT THEY STILL GOT ALOT OF LIFE LEFT IN THEM! HOPEFULLY MY 362 IS MY LAST HIGH END SAW ~ @@IndianaDoug
WELL I GOT TO THE THE BOTTOM OF WHAT WAS WRONG WITH MY 362. I LET ME NEIGHBOR BORROW IT AND EVEN GAVE HIM THE OIL MIX AND HE PUT STRAIGHT GAS IN IT AND RAN IT HARD. HE TOTALLY RUINED THE PISTON CYLINDER. I HAD TO REPLACE PISTON CYLINDER AND THE GASKETS.. IT WASN'T A CHEAP REPAIR BUT HOPE MY SAW WILL NOW LAST 15 YEARS. @@IndianaDoug
I'd be curious to know if you can do anything to give that 362c a bit more grunt. Like you said "and the sae demonstrated quite clearly) it gets R's real fast, and I don't think you'd want to do anything to hurt it's reliability, because that's it's best feature really - but like I say, I honestly think that with some mild work, maybe better flow up the lower transfers or something like that - MAYBE a slight increase in case volume . . . I dunno for sure . . . but a bit more torque *somehow* may make it a bit more rewarding to bring out to the log pile. That's what I think. I wonder if you might agree. Anyhow, it's great to see you makimg some new videos, pal. It's great to see you, and you're looking healthy. Send my love to yer youngins, too. Happy holidays, Doug. Keep on truckin'!
@@IndianaDoug Got it, great then, I’m planning to buy my first chainsaw and never again (Need one that can do everything) so I’m trying to decide between this and the 260, just cutting a bit firewood and once in a while fell some trees, I’m afraid if I take the 260 to lack of power… what do ya think?
362 is a fine, long running, durable chainsaw. But compared to a 400c (same weight and profile) or a Husky 562 the power doesn't hold up very well. A 362 will take a beating though, and they start nice. Nothing wrong with them. They'll wail the pants off any of those "farm boss" or "rancher" consumer saws.
I would not have thought the Echo 620 pulls harder, they have the same size motor don't they? If that's true man I'll be looking at Echos. Money's been tight, and my Stihl is on its last bearing, I need a new 60/70cc saw. Would you get a 620 over a ms362?
@@IndianaDoug it's looking more and more like Echo will be my next saw. Been a Dolmar guy my whole life and I always loved Stihl, but you know how it is. Thanks for the reply!
What about swapping jugs? Can’t ya put a 036/360/361 jug on this? Just convert it to carb if you don’t like the Mtronic? That way you get the lungs you want? Usually top tier saws have the best or better lungs anyway seems Stihl just missed the mark a little with the Strato + Mtronic? It’s not like it’s junk from the deck down?
It’s not junk at all. It’s a great saw. IIRC, the 361 top won’t work. Also, I installed a couple of bolts ons since this video and it’s already stronger. I’ll port it and it will really come alive.
Doug, this is a bit off topic but, at about 1:10 in the video, you have a massive dead ash behind you. Are you going to cut that in a future vid? As for the 362, I've not run one, but it looks like a good high rpm unit in your video. With a sharp chain I would like it.
Sometimes it is nice to grab a smaller saw for certain jobs. I usually grab my 441 for cutting firewood. I have a friend that cuts a lot of wood for the paper mill that will cut with a 261 when he is cutting 16 inch trees. He actually has a two person Stihl for the really big ones. You don’t see them to often.
@@IndianaDoug, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. The MS400C is lighter then both the Husky 555 and 562XP. I like both and use brands. The Stihl makes more sense in this case.
I honestly don’t think it’s too bad. Well not as bad as most claim. If yours is electronic version a firmware update might need upgraded. Mine is current and it revs much higher it seems. Plenty of power for a firewood saw.
The One I owned was definitely a turd. I won't buy another one. Stihl seems to have certain saws that shine and there duds. The old MS460 was a dud along with the latter year of MS660. The MS461 was an excellent power to weight ratio and I often ran a 36" bar falling big timber. The 461 was so close to the 660 that the 660 wasn't worth the extra weight. Likewise the MS261 is so close to the MS362 that the 362 isn't worth it
The only weakness my MS 362c has is me……keeping its chain sharp and letting it do the work….not forcing it. Love the weight, it will run a 25” light bar fine and is perfect with a 20” light bar…..power to weight for an old guy cutting firewood…….Perfect IMHO 🪵⛓🪚🔥✔️🇺🇸 Rick PS: like you said Doug, you get what you pay for….It’s a workhorse for the bucks.
Exactly. In all honesty I think I’ve worn both the 20” and the 24/25” bar out. Also, I’ve never ran a super good chain on it. I should probably give it some love to be honest😆
@@IndianaDoug I find it funny, I have a 500i also and a 261c….like all 3 saws….a lot. But I do find myself grabbing the 362 unless it’s larger wood or smaller wood. If what I call “Firewood” size….I grab the 362. I guess that is why they make so many sizes/models……if I were younger, I’m sure I would add a 661c to the stable. Thanks for the video Doug 👍👏
It's a good saw always has been, it's only a turd when you compare it to a 462. The 562xp has more power, but I do not trust the reliability of the 562xp whatsoever.
362 is a dog compared to the 400. I don’t see any good reason to buy one. Better plan is to pick up a husky 555 for less money, but with a lot more power.
The only Turd I see is your chain is dull as hell. I bet the tip of the chisel is facing the raker lol.. The dust that came out of the thing was so fine it was powder..
@@IndianaDoug I think at this point your better off just buying a new one everytime you get dull. Or just drop it off at a shop they charge 10 bucks to sharpen it up for you.
My point is. if your willing to make a video of you testing a saw and showing it cut you should at least have the common sense to have a sharp chain to give the folks an idea of how its going to cut when its properly sharp. This was DULL I mean like GARBAGE. Confirmed was when you tossed it in the vice and the teeth look like they are almost gone completely... Now before you go off in a big rampage about you cut firewood for a living and you forgot more about cutting then I will ever know thats fine....Im just telling you what I SEE... Your saw is DULL DULL DULL.... LIKE your dad used it over the weekend and ran it into the dirt all day.... THERE Is NO chunks in the shavings at all None... Its compete dust. Now I understand the wood is dry and old but there Still should be some chunks going on.... Noodles dont count either. so for 25 bucks you could have gotten a brand new Oragon chain for that saw and at least shown how its suppose to cut. vs a worn out dull chain. Thats my point. Yet you blast away...
To each his own, I have been running the 362 for years. Love the saw.
This was my first M-Tronic. Been very happy. I did put a 20" lightweight bar. Have other from MS 170 to ported 661R. If you only had 1 saw, the MS.362 C is a good choice. Big help having a great Stihl dealer 10 minutes away. Parts guys really know saws.
Stihl sells a kit with 3/4 wrap, bigger side cover, 2x dogs and roller chain catcher. I run one with this kit and 25" light bar for climbing. Doesn't pull my harness down at all even though I don't wear harness suspenders. Really good for reach once the smaller stuff is out of the way.
I just picked up an MS362C-M with 25" bar and, holy shit, it's a badass chainsaw! Zero issues whatsoever
I just got mine today. It’s ready for a weekend of hard work.
Never had a Stihl that didn't do a great job. Now, pick the saw for the job you want to do and weigh in the price you want to pay. Reliability is very important to me, might be 3 or 4 miles in the woods! Been cutting wood for over 40 years and Stihl is my favorite work saw.
Thx for showing me how the Chainsaw really works, 5 min just cutting, and it was awesome...
I gonna bye the ms 362 vw for sure.
We have two of those and two Timberwolves and 1562 XP compatibility they're exactly in the same range I know both saws and all three run great for our tree service not a problem with them 362 damn good saw I got nothing to say bad about it love it very much
Smooth running Saw with plenty of power👍
Ive had 4 of them. They all did well.
I have one and run a 20 inch bar it cuts great and have never had a issue I think a 24 inch bar is a little much for mine but mine is all I need I love it
I have the standard 362. Most reliable and hardest working saw I’ve ever owned.
Your review is spot on. I bought this saw before I became a chainsaw addict, so I guess you could call it a gateway saw😜🤣
Glad you mentioned the Echo 620. I have a 462 and Echo 620P and love both saws but that 462 gets heavy after a while then I switch to my 620 but one is none and two is one so...lol
I have a selection of 60cc and 70cc saws, on a day when I'm gonna cut firewood all day I always grab the bigger saw.
They don't weigh that much more but they cut a lot faster.
Great video👍🏻 I've never had one in my hands but wouldn't mind owning one. Would jump on one if the price was right!
Thank you for your review. Very informative. much better than many other videos I have seen.
Thx for watching👍🏻
Music to my ears ❤❤
Always liked my 362 more than my 441. Sold my 441, got a 462, also a great saw.
Agree 100%, I have the 462 with about 15 tanks in it and use the 362 80% of the time.
Nice honest review. Be blessed.
Nice vid there bro👍 like that you are filming different sizes to cut. This year I bought ms 362 cm, and I'm really satisfied, we have mainly hardwood and the saw runs great.
Thank a lot. I do like the saw
They were a good all-in-one saw for $600. Lots of firewood burners in my area ran them. Then they put a computer in it and jacked the price up, you may aswell buy the 462, they oil better.
Buy a West Coast Saw Bark box & their air filter system and the saw really comes alive! Compared to an 036 Pro it’s different 362 is more top end with the 036 it’s more torque but both cut excellent as they both have the bark box and 20” bars. Will try a 25” on the 036 Pro to see how it cuts but have to break it in more!
Gotta tell you, the 362 is my fave!!!
I worked for department of natural resources and thinned for two years. The saw works.
I really liked your video. Very good review and honest. I like how you just said your opinion and what you use it for. I feel that most people use the saw. Thank you.
I appreciate it👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good saw for what it is. I've got a couple I want to build but I need parts.
so almost wonderful beautiful video friend i love it see
Nice, thanks. I have many Stihl saws but my MS362 24" bar is in my bedroom on a shelf and is never used ; just's just for eye-candy. - N Idaho -
I fix saws freelance for a big firm that does some tree work and a lot of vegetation clearance in the UK. They have a fleet of these and they get worked very hard with less-than-ideal maintenance day to day. I'd rate them as a good quality, robust general purpose saw that's easy to work on.
Thanks for the info!
Who ever says that doesn't have one or if they have one should try sharpening the chain, it's a 60cc saw one of the best 60cc out there ive run most of them if you stick to a 18 inch bar
I cut 50 plus cords of firewood per year. I bring my MS362, MS361 and MS661c to the woods with me. I run 16 inch bars on the 362 and 361 and 25 inch bar on the 661c. I've had the 362 for 8 years and it's the saw I use 70% of the time. It always starts with 1 or 2 pulls. I wouldn't use it nearly as much if I had a longer bar on it. I am planning to get an MS462c soon. I'll run that with a 20 inch bar.
It’s a great saw just got to remember it’s only 59cc but weighs same as next Stihl up. It’s a solid saw, just slightly heavy.
I agree.
Man you got a sub from me, I’ve watched a lot of your videos and never realized I wasn’t. Just picked up a 362c used for a pretty good price. Think if I was buying new the echo 590 would’ve been hard to pass on for the price difference
I appreciate ya👍🏻
If one is needing more power than a 261 I would say this is an excellent saw for the money. If you don't need more saw than the 261 get the 261.
I have that saw and it's a good saw.
I have used Stihl brand chainsaws and rotary saws in the fire department for 30+ years for roof ventilation and forcible entry work. Extremely reliable equipment in a world where “failure is not an option”, so to speak. Personally, I own (2) MS-170s and (1) MS-362C. I typically use a 170 and the 362 on the same task. One of the 170’s stays in my truck during Fall and Winter for clearing blow-downs from the backroads where I live in East Tennessee. I bought the 362C with the standard 20” bar plus a 25” bar, and spare chains for both. I generally only use the 362C w/25” bar when I need to for big stuff. I step-down to the 20” bar when I don’t need the 25” like for bucking to make rounds for splitting, etc. Having a 170 nearby is great for all the limbing and smaller stuff. IMO the 362C with 20” and 25” bars is a beast when used the right way.
i love my 362 its the work horse for my operation
I like mine much better now that it’s getting more air in with a K&N and more air out with an Egan Straight Shot.
Just Subscribed. I just went to the stihl dealer in town and they wanted over $900 for the 362, the Husky dealer wants $810 for a 562xp with a 28in bar and the echo dealer said I can get a 620PW with a 27in bar for $649. Needless to say, I didn't even pick up the 362 to feel it because for that price I would buy a 572xp instead.
Thank you for the video
Thanks👍🏻 I seriously don’t know how Stihl stays competitive with their pricing being so high. At the end of the day folks just need a dependable “wood cutter.” Plus with Echo’s 5 yr warranty, no brainer for me😆
@@IndianaDoug in my neck of the woods, no one buys anything but stihl. They say everything else is junk.
I don’t dislike Stihl. The make quality machines. But I’m more of a O series guy for their simplicity and raw power.
@@IndianaDoug that is just it. Everyone was hooked with the 044 around here. They have been forever chasing the legacy of power weight and longevity. I have never had the pleasure of running one. Thanks for the reply! Have a great Christmas man!
@@oakiewoodsman you too👍🏻
I agree. You didnt mention the 400 which pretty well makes this saw obsolete though.
No it doesn't. The 400 doesn't have a version with heat in the handle. The 362 does. Here in Norway it will get pretty cold
Just bought one today....hopefully its a good one
Hope you enjoy it!
At my dealer, the 400C is only $100 more so I’d probably go with that, and also get a “light” bar. But the 362 is still a good saw.
I do like this saw. But I paid $225 for it. If I were buying new, $100 extra is a no brainer. But I’m sorry, there’s no way I’d pay new price for saws in 2023, I’ll stick to previously owned and fix them up myself. I don’t really have a choice tbh😁
I fell dead standing fir and pine snags for a living here in southern Oregon, I use my 362C M-tronic, 28" super lite bar, open exhaust, hi flow air cleaner on all trees 15 to 30 inches.
It's not a muscle saw, just a medium weight rig.
M- tronic IMHO is not as good as an older carburetor saw.
You simply must keep the carb and linkage area spotless, clean it good after every session.
Runnin same 28" light bar carborated version haven't had any issues, people expecting Lamborghini when it a Camaro ya know. Everyones a expert lol
love my 362cm
My saws aren't professional models but they suite my needs for down blow/ storm debris, helping my neighbors out on occasion and cutting small amounts of firewood three out of four seasons the Husqvarna 455 Rancher and Echo 590 Timberwolf have been awesome. The Rancher is 55.5-56cc and the Timberwolf is 59.8cc. They're rated to pull a 24 inch bar and chain but like you I think its too much. I run the stock 20 inch bars with 3/8 inch chains. The majority of what I limb and buck is balsam fir, semi- chisel is just fine. When I get in the occasional cherry or birch I run full chisel. My neighbor next door who is here seasonal, has a Stihl 311, whether its a farm saw or pro saw I think the sub 60cc saw have a heavy powerhead. You know you're going to be a little sore the next day but I like the heavier powerheads especially for bucking. Just my preference. My older 340 and 350 are tired and low compression. I just retired them both. My aunt and uncle bought me a 120i battery powered saw a couple years ago for Christmas, its really nice for smaller limbing and rounds. I may buy another smaller gas powered Husqvarna next year. I miss the 340 and 350, the 455 is sweet though, make no mistake. Have you heard from Kensie lately, I was wondering how he's doing in Louisiana? I was a subscriber of his before and no sign of Bayou Country Powersaws.
I just chatted with Kenzie yesterday. I was asking him about the leather chip guard he made for that 7900 he just built Buckin. He seems to be pretty busy these days.
Seemed to run pretty well! Would this saw be a good choice to mod? Or would you recommend avoiding it for modding?
This saw would absolutely be a saw you’d want to mod
I just love my 362. I think the weight power ratio is top. For me and my needs its just fine. I never had an issue with it in the five years i am running it. Would I buy it again? Well there is a Stihl MS400….
Seems to be a pretty good running saw
It really is
The 362 is best with a 20 in bar. Anything bigger and you might as well pick up a 462
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Stihl Ms362 is a fine saw. My daily.
I ran one for the first time this past Saturday. I thought it felt fine. I too think it gets a little too much hate. But, when compared to it's piers, the 620 and the 562xp...I'd pick it last. So I guess it is somewhat deserving of the bad rap.
For sure👍🏻
Seems like a decent saw
Ain’t bad
I been thinkn on a 400c but not sure yet. Also want a 357xp.
Both great saws man
I love my 362c with a razor sharp chain 20" bar eats like a slob. Smaller stuff I run an Ms 180 and larger trees my husky 372xp. Take care of you're equipment and it should take care of you 😎😎👍👍😉😉be safe out there happy cutting
Right on👍🏻
Unmentioned is the Husqvarna 362. It was offered in a small and large mount configuration that I believe was the ultimate 60cc saw. Having stated that. I have the reputation of being a STIHL fan and product promoter. However, amoung the Echo cs 620 and Husqvarna 562xp it is not the top dog. It simply will not oil like the other two saws in stock form without modification which limits its" ability to pull a longer bar. Many climbers and light loggers in my immediate area go with the Echo because of its' torque and durability. When it comes to plastic on these saws the STIHL fuel tank and brake flag is fragile. Fact of the matter. Excellent vid Mr. Doug.....
Ya the Husky 362 is awesome, just can’t find any. Thx Brian👍🏻
I run a 361, they quit making them in 09 I believe. I don't have a 362 because the 361 still does everything I need, and does it well. I.m off grid in central BC, it gets -40 here, and I'm off grid, fire wood is my heat. Not to mention, I'm 71 and I can pack this saw around. Should the 361 quit, I'll buy a 362. They work hard, and don't let you down if you treat them right.
Hard to beat a 361!
Its an okay entry level pro saw. Its also no 361.
I have both. The 361 runs circles around the 362. It’s just built different and my favorite saw by far. It’s a monster!
They are light and the newer ones are pretty peppy i sidnt like the first ones idk it coulda been me tho
Lmfao @ when you said don't act like you didn't see me hit that dirt lmfao
Figured I’d call that one out before everyone else does. 😆
@@IndianaDoug right. That saw is great.wish I had one.i have a ms 290 does the job.that one you have makes mine look like a toy.
362 was my first pro saw I bought it in 2010 ish, I've never been disappointed with it but I will agree with your diagnosis that saw was built for a 20" bar. A 24" killed it so much that I sent it off to Brad Snelling and had him port it when I did that I had no intention of getting any other saws.... now I'm up way past 20! I used it almost exclusively as a firewood saw cutting 30+ pickup loads a year for about 8 years, in 2018 I picked up a 620 echo at Bunyan at show price since then the 363 has been riding the pine a lot more than not. But not because it is a bad saw but because the echo is comparable in power and weight and I don't want to kill my ported saw, its the only one that I have that is ported by someone who knows what they are doing! The rest of my ported saws are hack jobs by Red Neckerson lol.... (me)
Ya Brad certainly knows what he’s doing. One of the best.
@@IndianaDougand semi retiring the 362 saved its life this fall my son sat the 620 behind my excavator and I backed over it 🤬 fortunately the ground was soft and saved the case and jug the 590 and 620 share plastic so I was able to pick up a blown up 590 cheap and cannibalize it to restore the 620....
Matthew I like that Neckerson guy...
@Brian2bears yea he comes around from time to time... always a good show 🤣 I can't afford for him to show up too often though, results may vary!!!!
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MS 362 is the best saw for firewood cutting. Agree 100%. I gotta disagree that it's "heavy". Because it is not. It has worse power/weight ratio compared to 462, but 462 is heavier saw and take quite a bit more gas.
Just rhetorical question - are you gonna pull MS 881 everywhere you go because it has a better power/weight ratio, but is heavy as hell? Of course not. So this "weight" question is a bit debatable.
Hey you’re not wrong! I like this saw. I was referring to the haters saying it’s a “heavy turd” but I’d like to debate the need for a 60cc class saw as the power we’re getting out of 50s now is getting close, with much less weight. Perhaps on another video…
@@IndianaDoug Good point. Just today i cut 2 foot diameter dry ash tree with it. 20 light bar. Nice, nimble, good front - back balance. I simply like it a lot. But as you said correctly in video - different job means different saw. And for a whole work day at the woods, limbing, bucking etc. this is the saw that has enough power and yet is not too heavy for me... In my perspective, every pound of weight makes a huge difference after like 8 hours.
Eg. 462, yeah, great saw, but i'm tired more quickly with it.
I mostly cut a dead trees that storms brought down, so branches entangled with other trees, where push - pull scenarios are not clear etc, and here this lighter, yet still "pro" saw shines for me.
got 211, 251, 362 and now i'm gonna add 661 for a bigger jobs. Been "eyeballin" it for like a year and saving some cash 🙂
Take care and most important, stay safe!
@@t4t4s0l I too cut a ton of Ash here in Indiana. They’re never ending. But yes, a strong 50cc is my go to when I’m “production mode.” I really like the 250/251s, for the money they are exceptional. Anything bigger I find myself grabbing a 70/80cc saw (typically my Dolmar PS7900)
Absolutely love my 462cm! Beast
I just picked up a 2012 362. It has the ARCTIC kit, it sat for too long, the gas is rotten. I hope all it needs is a carb kit.
Good luck with er bub. Mine is a 2012 bought it cheap at 380$$$ smoking deal...She screams I'm sure you'll be happy with it when ya get it dialed in😎😎👍
I live in bloomington sure your some where close looks like home.
I’m in Richmond, 2 hrs northeast
It looks like a decent chainsaw there that sthil
It really is
The 362 is a decent saw for a firewood operation. As you said tho it's a Stihl, so the price is very high, and for alot less money I believe their are far better options out there. But that being said, it is not as bad as some portray, it's a very rugged and reliable saw, if your fine with the cost then it may be for you.
Well said bud. The only pro model Stihl that never gets any love🤷🏻♂️😆
What are these other saws you’d recommend, currently looking at this exact saw
@steve henaire the 362 is a great saw, but way overpriced for what it is IMO @ $800. For that money a Husq 562,572 would be way more saw. For $400 and a good port job an echo 4910/501 would be right there power wise and less weight. If your not totally dependent on the saw and have limited mechanical abilities, a 372 or 440 clone may be a great option as well. But if your looking for a plug and play, the big names is where I would stay. Hope this helps a bit. Regardless I hope you just enjoy whatever purchase you decide to make and stay safe out there.
@dubbssawshop the 562xp is junk from the factory I bought a new one lasted 30 hours Husqvarna no longer makes good saws quality control is way down
Everything tool has its use..
Does the 362's throttle use a cable or linkage. Ive got a 441 and had to replace the throttle cable and its an absolute nightmare
Yes. They call it a throttle rod. Lots of bends on that one.
My biggest issue with my Stihl Ms 362 is that dang eco start. When storms hit and its time to perform my dang Husq 450 starts within 5 pulls. And the Stihl takes alot of finicky tricks to get it started. And out the field when gas runs out and if you haft to use a husq oil gas mix in the Stihl,it became a unhappy camper and totally bogged down to where it wouldn't run. I just dropped it off this am at the Stihl shop saying it needs a tune up and the Husq Oil mix bogged totally to where it want stay runnin. And the main guy there said that shouldn't of made a difference. But I have 200 plus hours on my Husq because it always starts and is always ready when the high wind and tornadoes are done.. And I dont even have 20 hours on my 362 mainly cause the dang eco start always messes me up when i dont have time to mess with it...
Interesting. I have the 362c and it’s starts up without fail very easy. My biggest complaint is retail price! Stihl is the worst by far.
I HERE YA MAN THEY AINT CHEAP .. IM GLAD I BOUGHT MINE 10 YEARS AGO AND THAT THEY STILL GOT ALOT OF LIFE LEFT IN THEM! HOPEFULLY MY 362 IS MY LAST HIGH END SAW ~ @@IndianaDoug
WELL I GOT TO THE THE BOTTOM OF WHAT WAS WRONG WITH MY 362. I LET ME NEIGHBOR BORROW IT AND EVEN GAVE HIM THE OIL MIX AND HE PUT STRAIGHT GAS IN IT AND RAN IT HARD. HE TOTALLY RUINED THE PISTON CYLINDER. I HAD TO REPLACE PISTON CYLINDER AND THE GASKETS.. IT WASN'T A CHEAP REPAIR BUT HOPE MY SAW WILL NOW LAST 15 YEARS. @@IndianaDoug
I'd be curious to know if you can do anything to give that 362c a bit more grunt. Like you said "and the sae demonstrated quite clearly) it gets R's real fast, and I don't think you'd want to do anything to hurt it's reliability, because that's it's best feature really - but like I say, I honestly think that with some mild work, maybe better flow up the lower transfers or something like that - MAYBE a slight increase in case volume . . . I dunno for sure . . . but a bit more torque *somehow* may make it a bit more rewarding to bring out to the log pile.
That's what I think. I wonder if you might agree.
Anyhow, it's great to see you makimg some new videos, pal. It's great to see you, and you're looking healthy. Send my love to yer youngins, too. Happy holidays, Doug. Keep on truckin'!
Thanks John. We shall see on the 362.
Idk if its because of the camera but it seems that chain needs some sharpening, it performs pretty well though
Never sharp enough is what I always say. This one was out of the box. I wanted everything to be as you buy it stock. No modifications.
@@IndianaDoug Got it, great then, I’m planning to buy my first chainsaw and never again (Need one that can do everything) so I’m trying to decide between this and the 260, just cutting a bit firewood and once in a while fell some trees, I’m afraid if I take the 260 to lack of power… what do ya think?
@@agphoto_graphy I’d definitely get a 362 if it were me
362 is a fine, long running, durable chainsaw. But compared to a 400c (same weight and profile) or a Husky 562 the power doesn't hold up very well. A 362 will take a beating though, and they start nice. Nothing wrong with them. They'll wail the pants off any of those "farm boss" or "rancher" consumer saws.
I would not have thought the Echo 620 pulls harder, they have the same size motor don't they? If that's true man I'll be looking at Echos. Money's been tight, and my Stihl is on its last bearing, I need a new 60/70cc saw. Would you get a 620 over a ms362?
Oh man no comparison imho. The 620 is one of my favorite saws.
@@IndianaDoug it's looking more and more like Echo will be my next saw. Been a Dolmar guy my whole life and I always loved Stihl, but you know how it is. Thanks for the reply!
What about swapping jugs? Can’t ya put a 036/360/361 jug on this? Just convert it to carb if you don’t like the Mtronic? That way you get the lungs you want? Usually top tier saws have the best or better lungs anyway seems Stihl just missed the mark a little with the Strato + Mtronic? It’s not like it’s junk from the deck down?
It’s not junk at all. It’s a great saw. IIRC, the 361 top won’t work. Also, I installed a couple of bolts ons since this video and it’s already stronger. I’ll port it and it will really come alive.
Doug, this is a bit off topic but, at about 1:10 in the video, you have a massive dead ash behind you. Are you going to cut that in a future vid? As for the 362, I've not run one, but it looks like a good high rpm unit in your video. With a sharp chain I would like it.
If you look deep into my backgrounds, you’ll notice lots of dead Ash in that area. They’re all coming down sooner or later.
No way is that little thing a slouch, I'm tryna get my hands on a 441c and 461, and a 576xp as well.
just bought one tonight....it will not be left stock though
Looking forward to seeing what you can do with it.
550xp and 560/562xp are home owners power saws bro. 362 261 also are home owners power saws
I guess technically you’re not wrong😂
Sometimes it is nice to grab a smaller saw for certain jobs. I usually grab my 441 for cutting firewood. I have a friend that cuts a lot of wood for the paper mill that will cut with a 261 when he is cutting 16 inch trees. He actually has a two person Stihl for the really big ones. You don’t see them to often.
Limited with bar length, my gripe...my 038 is too heavy, I'm moving to 462.
If money was no object, pretty much everyone would just move to the 462 I’m sure.
@@IndianaDoug well, I say 462, but probably be a good condition used 461 possibly 460...
462cm.....never looked back ..I need a 261 fir in the tree.
Both great saws indeed👍🏻
I was gonna get a MS362C. I'm gonna go with the MS400C instead. Only $100 and a half pound more.
400 is a fantastic saw, no brainer for sure.
@@IndianaDoug, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. The MS400C is lighter then both the Husky 555 and 562XP. I like both and use brands. The Stihl makes more sense in this case.
Not a terd saw but it had its day haha it’s old news now
I'll take that over a 391 anyday..
Mine always starts but it seems slow. I run a 24" bar and a skiptooth. It's is underwhelming
I honestly don’t think it’s too bad. Well not as bad as most claim. If yours is electronic version a firmware update might need upgraded. Mine is current and it revs much higher it seems. Plenty of power for a firewood saw.
@@IndianaDoug thanks I'll try that and keep you posted. I did firewood thus afternoon and used my echo
I bought a husky 365 but I can't use it yet since my wife doesn't know about it
I HAD A 362....AFTER THE FIRE...95969....IT RAN LIKE A MFer.
Doesn't look like a turd sounds good to me
It’s never let me down.
The One I owned was definitely a turd. I won't buy another one. Stihl seems to have certain saws that shine and there duds. The old MS460 was a dud along with the latter year of MS660. The MS461 was an excellent power to weight ratio and I often ran a 36" bar falling big timber. The 461 was so close to the 660 that the 660 wasn't worth the extra weight. Likewise the MS261 is so close to the MS362 that the 362 isn't worth it
The only weakness my MS 362c has is me……keeping its chain sharp and letting it do the work….not forcing it. Love the weight, it will run a 25” light bar fine and is perfect with a 20” light bar…..power to weight for an old guy cutting firewood…….Perfect IMHO 🪵⛓🪚🔥✔️🇺🇸 Rick
PS: like you said Doug, you get what you pay for….It’s a workhorse for the bucks.
Exactly. In all honesty I think I’ve worn both the 20” and the 24/25” bar out. Also, I’ve never ran a super good chain on it. I should probably give it some love to be honest😆
@@IndianaDoug I find it funny, I have a 500i also and a 261c….like all 3 saws….a lot. But I do find myself grabbing the 362 unless it’s larger wood or smaller wood. If what I call “Firewood” size….I grab the 362. I guess that is why they make so many sizes/models……if I were younger, I’m sure I would add a 661c to the stable. Thanks for the video Doug 👍👏
It's a good saw always has been, it's only a turd when you compare it to a 462. The 562xp has more power, but I do not trust the reliability of the 562xp whatsoever.
Ya been hearing about those nightmares too🤦🏻♂️
Had an old 600p echo that would blow the doors off my brand new ms362c. Cannot recommend the 362c.
Just port it!
100%💪🏼
362 is a dog compared to the 400. I don’t see any good reason to buy one.
Better plan is to pick up a husky 555 for less money, but with a lot more power.
The only Turd I see is your chain is dull as hell. I bet the tip of the chisel is facing the raker lol.. The dust that came out of the thing was so fine it was powder..
Wish I knew how to file a chain🤦🏻♂️
@@IndianaDoug I think at this point your better off just buying a new one everytime you get dull. Or just drop it off at a shop they charge 10 bucks to sharpen it up for you.
My point is. if your willing to make a video of you testing a saw and showing it cut you should at least have the common sense to have a sharp chain to give the folks an idea of how its going to cut when its properly sharp. This was DULL I mean like GARBAGE. Confirmed was when you tossed it in the vice and the teeth look like they are almost gone completely... Now before you go off in a big rampage about you cut firewood for a living and you forgot more about cutting then I will ever know thats fine....Im just telling you what I SEE... Your saw is DULL DULL DULL.... LIKE your dad used it over the weekend and ran it into the dirt all day.... THERE Is NO chunks in the shavings at all None... Its compete dust. Now I understand the wood is dry and old but there Still should be some chunks going on.... Noodles dont count either. so for 25 bucks you could have gotten a brand new Oragon chain for that saw and at least shown how its suppose to cut. vs a worn out dull chain. Thats my point. Yet you blast away...
@@LiveFreeOrRIP damn that’s a lot of typing🤣
@@IndianaDoug i was home on lunch... I dont sit at the pc all day trolling. however I do watch lots of chainsaw videos.
Hi, ..you are right, I mean 100 pcnt right. M /profi forest guy
It's spitting those chips pretty far
It is still chain bad to the bone
Mine is brand new and engine already bogs. 🤦♂️
Like most Stihl saws I think they cost too much for what you get.
Squinting doesn’t count as eye protection.
You’re not wrong, I still beat myself up for having my glasses tucked in my shirt on this video🤣