Here in Bangkok Honda has has battery swap stations for a commercial EV scooter they launched in 2022. My understanding is that there are a few hundred around the city. I was at Honda Cub House and saw someone pop in the back and swap the batteries on their delivery scooter. took about a minute total for them to swap both batteries. I am super excited. If they do an EV undertone I will be the first in line for one.
If Honda makes an electric bike that is around 10k, I’d honestly consider it if the range was adequate. Any new electric OR gas Harley these days is way past 10k. And the live wire, forget ab it, its a rich persons toy.
“It’s not a big motorcycle, Just a groovy little motorbike…” Honda HONDA! Honda HONDA! I don’t have my bike license but I imagine riding an electric one might be a pretty cool experience. I imagine just you and the wind and road noise could be a visceral thing. Reminds me of that Christmas song, “Si-ilent bike, Ho-oly bike…” Sorry. That was bad. I’ll show myself out…
Looks like Honda for US market is going for more expensive units, except kids model. I would think that would include a personal model too. Still have 1940 Indian Chief and 37 Harley Knucklehead. At 60 don’t ride much and 2 daughters not interested unless I ride them. More collector items at this point but I take each one out once a month here in Florida
Range is a big factor for some riders, you put a lot of miles in on the weekends. But if the swaps are available in many locations it should not be an issue.
@@voidifremoved my bike will arive mext month .. i can ride for 200mls in the mautains than charge for 40 minutes than do it again .. thats enough for me .... energica experia .. ! .. but will mostly use it for commuting .. 100highway mls a day
Kirk, if the article was all that Mitsubishi Auto was developing for '23 MY it means the Outlander Sport / RVR won't be changed until '24 MY using the NEW Nissan Qashqai. The Rogue Sport won't be sold in USDM, Nissan is probably giving it to Mitsubishi as a US exclusive like Mazda did with the 2 Sedan giving it to Toyota as an US exclusive (both Mazda and Toyota sold versions of this in Mexico).
Not sure if you know yet, china already have hot-swapping battery stations for cars/compact suvs! Takes less time than filling up with gas lol It would be a huge hit in the US if they brought that tech here. The station where they do it is pretty f'n cool, it's all automated with just an attendant there as a tech if needed. Pull up, system unscrews the mounts for the battery, jacks the car up, battery slides into the small building for charging, the system slides in and fastens a whole charged battery back in and you're off.
Americans can get electric EV credits of 7,500 dollars, meanwhile electric scoters and motorbikes total cost is less then half that and they get nothing. Massive policy failure here.
Can we just say it here… Honda DCTs just plain kicks ass. Manual driver, but DCT is a welcome friend on a street bike. 😅 Look forward to seeing how they rock EVs, frankly.
Yes agreed. Sadly believe it or not it's not just motorists but the riders themselves. Its a fact many motorcyclists get into bad/deadly accidents while taking corners too quickly for their skill level. It doesn't help the fact that schools hand you a license if you take a 2 day course which only consists of 8 hours of class and barely 8 hours of riding in a parking lot. You have to do way more to get your automotive license if you do it from school.
I personally am stoked because at the very least this means honda will be making some hopefully super high quality motors to use for swaps, personally though I think kit bikes are the future, without the complexities of an ice engine putting a motor on a frame with some batteries and some modules is so easy a child could do it, its easy to have a frame made up there are plenty of fabricators in America so now anyone can create a side by side motorcycle scooter three wheeler whatever and it would be far cheaper than buying an electric bike for 10-30k.
Hopefully Honda car dealers and motorcycle dealers will have battery swap stations. Would be nice for some gas stations to have these swappable battery stations too. Would be cool to have gas stations on long interstates like I95 to have these battery swap stations like every 25 or 50 miles.
Yeah, Gogoro does that. It's better for many reasons (unlimited range that's faster than a fuel stop) but the best reasons are #1. Slow charging is better for batteries. #2. Just like any resource, those used for batteries are finite so while electricity can easily become cheaper than it is now (and no, I am NOT talking about nuclear anything) battery prices will increase if we do not re-use and especially recycle battery components, precious metals, etc. What better way to make that happen than to have all manufacturers take in battery disposal/recycling. Right now, disposal costs are ALWAYS placed on the consumer, which is why so many cans wind up in the trash, even in states with deposit/refund laws.
@@KirkKreifels if anywhere can address this it will be Vietnam and the VinGroup that produce millions of motorbikes annually and now producing world class Vinfast EV’s for export.
CBR RR-R number 13 right here yo! Im a moto lover and I'm NOT a fan of BEB's or BEM's LOL no... Ok the only way id do it is an EV dirt bike, or an EV scooter or similar moto for running around the beach. Anything else and id never buy or use an BE moto. I curse thee!!!
Honda Motorsports USA, just shut up and make your North American model line-ups on par with the European markets. We in the US have been mistreated by Honda in the variety and availability of models compared to other markets.
EV motorcycles are less attractive from an engineering perspective than electric cars because they have limited range due to their batteries needing to be small and lightweight and having poor aerodynamics. They work well in the city with regenerative breaking and low speeds but have very poor range at higher speeds where aerodynamics becomes more of a factor. I’m glad Honda is going to start introducing electric motorcycles because almost all the electric motorcycle companies that have come out recently are bankrupt and out of business maybe a large company like Honda will be able to survive the electric motorcycle market and make bikes more affordable. Hopefully lighter weight more energy dense batteries are on the way. I have gotten into motorcycling recently and have way more fun on my bike than in a car! I don’t even have to speed to have fun. I took Kirk’s advice and bought Japanese! My Yamaha should last forever and be super reliable. It was also more affordable than an American or European bike. The experience of owning a motorcycle is making me second guess my desire for a GR86 or GR Corolla. Now I want a Miata for my next car! Open air is more fun and you are more motivated to drive the GR cars like a hooligan to have as much fun as driving the Miata with the top down just chilling and rowing through gears.
"Probably faster than a gas station" - tbh, not likely, it takes about twenty seconds to fill your average scooter, gassing up is extremely quick on two wheels.
@@KirkKreifels Cash is king in Southeast Asia and gas stations are full service. You pull up right to the pump, hand the guy a fiver, and he tops you up by the appropriate amount without you even jumping off the bike. It's obscenely quick. This is all no matter, because we're talking short enough quantities of time as to make no real difference, but I did want to point out just how fast fill-ups are in these places - it's something to behold.
Electric vehicles are cool but who is actually buying the carbon neutrality and environment propaganda. The start to finish process of creating batteries is completely devastating to the environment. From mining to refining, it is horrendous
Only idiots who don't ride motorcycles see this as a viable option. EVs motorcycles are much heavier than ICE making handling crap. Then EV has 1/2 or less the range of a ICE motorcycle that already has a short range .
Transform the world huh, well no. Honda is way late in the ev game. The transformation is already underway and all they have is a different version of the same thing
Are you really saving the planet if you only transferring emissions from one geographical spot to the next? While Americans will be enjoying the EVs, The Far East will be rearranging their topography to find the materials. So has anything really been saved?
Here in Bangkok Honda has has battery swap stations for a commercial EV scooter they launched in 2022. My understanding is that there are a few hundred around the city. I was at Honda Cub House and saw someone pop in the back and swap the batteries on their delivery scooter. took about a minute total for them to swap both batteries. I am super excited. If they do an EV undertone I will be the first in line for one.
If Honda makes an electric bike that is around 10k, I’d honestly consider it if the range was adequate. Any new electric OR gas Harley these days is way past 10k. And the live wire, forget ab it, its a rich persons toy.
As a Honda bike owner - sound saves lives
I'm aure that Honda will implement sound some how. Electric motors that power newer subway cars make noise.
Sadly not, the majority of the sound comes out the back ie exhaust and gets directed backwards, away from people and the cars in front
@@gavinearls2935 and heard all around….
*Loud pipes Save Lives
@@pjsneeringer5942
Even quiet ones lol better than nothing
Imagine if Honda uses this tech to create a rail propulsion division to compete Mitsubishi, Hitachi, and Toshiba
Well Uno reverse card, cause Hitachi is making motors for small electric cars
And Yamaha. They’re one of the titans of electric motors.
Hear me out when yamaha has a electric motor for carsI hate toyota is first
@@danielgilazar4088 Yamaha motors are supplying Subaru and a couple American brands already, if I’m not mistaken.
“It’s not a big motorcycle,
Just a groovy little motorbike…”
Honda HONDA!
Honda HONDA!
I don’t have my bike license but I imagine riding an electric one might be a pretty cool experience.
I imagine just you and the wind and road noise could be a visceral thing.
Reminds me of that Christmas song,
“Si-ilent bike,
Ho-oly bike…”
Sorry. That was bad. I’ll show myself out…
Looks like Honda for US market is going for more expensive units, except kids model. I would think that would include a personal model too. Still have 1940 Indian Chief and 37 Harley Knucklehead. At 60 don’t ride much and 2 daughters not interested unless I ride them. More collector items at this point but I take each one out once a month here in Florida
We need an electric supercub!
Honestly, EV motorcycles are something I can 100% get behind. Range won't be as much of an issue seeing as it would be a toy more than anything.
Range is a big factor for some riders, you put a lot of miles in on the weekends. But if the swaps are available in many locations it should not be an issue.
A toy for you….main source of transportation for many others
@@mansamusa4652
It can only be a toy where I live ...Ontario Canada. Bikes don't do well in 30cm of snow
@@voidifremoved my bike will arive mext month .. i can ride for 200mls in the mautains than charge for 40 minutes than do it again .. thats enough for me .... energica experia .. ! .. but will mostly use it for commuting .. 100highway mls a day
Kirk, if the article was all that Mitsubishi Auto was developing for '23 MY it means the Outlander Sport / RVR won't be changed until '24 MY using the NEW Nissan Qashqai. The Rogue Sport won't be sold in USDM, Nissan is probably giving it to Mitsubishi as a US exclusive like Mazda did with the 2 Sedan giving it to Toyota as an US exclusive (both Mazda and Toyota sold versions of this in Mexico).
Interesting!
yes, If the price comes around 10K I would consider. Electric motorcycles need to come down in price.
I would start riding motorcycles when they go electric.
Seems like solid state batteries will have a huge impact not only on cars but for motorcycles, planes, boats, and more!
I don’t see going to a motorcross race to see electric motorcycles.
Can you do another update on the new Prius? Thank you!
Thanks Kirk for this very special video
I want an EV Grom asap.
The silhouettes look so good
As a 2022 GOLDWING owner hope the GW will not be electric but as a option would be okay
Not sure if you know yet, china already have hot-swapping battery stations for cars/compact suvs! Takes less time than filling up with gas lol It would be a huge hit in the US if they brought that tech here. The station where they do it is pretty f'n cool, it's all automated with just an attendant there as a tech if needed.
Pull up, system unscrews the mounts for the battery, jacks the car up, battery slides into the small building for charging, the system slides in and fastens a whole charged battery back in and you're off.
eelctric supercub is good idea. but gosh no full electric atleast on hybrid
Americans can get electric EV credits of 7,500 dollars, meanwhile electric scoters and motorbikes total cost is less then half that and they get nothing. Massive policy failure here.
Can we just say it here… Honda DCTs just plain kicks ass. Manual driver, but DCT is a welcome friend on a street bike. 😅
Look forward to seeing how they rock EVs, frankly.
The thing is electric is acytually very basic compaired to ice .. .. i m looking forward to e honda !!
If motorcycles weren't so damn dangerous...oh wait, I mean the drivers around motorcycles, I would get one.
Yes agreed. Sadly believe it or not it's not just motorists but the riders themselves. Its a fact many motorcyclists get into bad/deadly accidents while taking corners too quickly for their skill level. It doesn't help the fact that schools hand you a license if you take a 2 day course which only consists of 8 hours of class and barely 8 hours of riding in a parking lot. You have to do way more to get your automotive license if you do it from school.
ROFL! This is even more stupid than toasters on 4 wheels! It will not change anything, especially not the world.
I personally am stoked because at the very least this means honda will be making some hopefully super high quality motors to use for swaps, personally though I think kit bikes are the future, without the complexities of an ice engine putting a motor on a frame with some batteries and some modules is so easy a child could do it, its easy to have a frame made up there are plenty of fabricators in America so now anyone can create a side by side motorcycle scooter three wheeler whatever and it would be far cheaper than buying an electric bike for 10-30k.
Hopefully Honda car dealers and motorcycle dealers will have battery swap stations. Would be nice for some gas stations to have these swappable battery stations too. Would be cool to have gas stations on long interstates like I95 to have these battery swap stations like every 25 or 50 miles.
Yeah, Gogoro does that. It's better for many reasons (unlimited range that's faster than a fuel stop) but the best reasons are #1. Slow charging is better for batteries. #2. Just like any resource, those used for batteries are finite so while electricity can easily become cheaper than it is now (and no, I am NOT talking about nuclear anything) battery prices will increase if we do not re-use and especially recycle battery components, precious metals, etc. What better way to make that happen than to have all manufacturers take in battery disposal/recycling. Right now, disposal costs are ALWAYS placed on the consumer, which is why so many cans wind up in the trash, even in states with deposit/refund laws.
Thats not a NC700...thats an ADV 400 (or adv 150/700, etc)
Good video, this is something I've just been starting to pay attention to
The charging network and infrastructure in markets that use motorbikes as the primary mode of transport will never be able to support the transition.
It'll be a challenge for sure
@@KirkKreifels if anywhere can address this it will be Vietnam and the VinGroup that produce millions of motorbikes annually and now producing world class Vinfast EV’s for export.
Electric motorcycles are the future.
Is that right? (wound up as 1st)
I will buy immediately
Wow Akira anyone?
CBR RR-R number 13 right here yo! Im a moto lover and I'm NOT a fan of BEB's or BEM's LOL no... Ok the only way id do it is an EV dirt bike, or an EV scooter or similar moto for running around the beach. Anything else and id never buy or use an BE moto. I curse thee!!!
Honda🇯🇵 🏍motor🎌🏎mobil🏁🏆nice
a Electric Grom would be ideal.
I hope they come out with an electric super cub.
I would like a Forza electric.
Electric bikes would be nice
Honda Motorsports USA, just shut up and make your North American model line-ups on par with the European markets. We in the US have been mistreated by Honda in the variety and availability of models compared to other markets.
It's going to fail hard. Motorcycles are platforms for having fun. Electric vehicles area not fun.
electric bike makes so much sense, if it were safer to ride them in north america
As a rider for over 50 years I am not or will ever be an electric motorcycle rider....👎🏻
Swappable Motorcycle Batteries!!! Now we're in the future
Also first
EV bikes are not fun... ive tried. Its a terrible trick.
Id thumbs down on the topic even tho gave you a thumbs up for the channel. Im gonna go ride to the gym. And use GAS!
EV motorcycles are less attractive from an engineering perspective than electric cars because they have limited range due to their batteries needing to be small and lightweight and having poor aerodynamics.
They work well in the city with regenerative breaking and low speeds but have very poor range at higher speeds where aerodynamics becomes more of a factor.
I’m glad Honda is going to start introducing electric motorcycles because almost all the electric motorcycle companies that have come out recently are bankrupt and out of business maybe a large company like Honda will be able to survive the electric motorcycle market and make bikes more affordable.
Hopefully lighter weight more energy dense batteries are on the way. I have gotten into motorcycling recently and have way more fun on my bike than in a car! I don’t even have to speed to have fun.
I took Kirk’s advice and bought Japanese! My Yamaha should last forever and be super reliable. It was also more affordable than an American or European bike.
The experience of owning a motorcycle is making me second guess my desire for a GR86 or GR Corolla. Now I want a Miata for my next car!
Open air is more fun and you are more motivated to drive the GR cars like a hooligan to have as much fun as driving the Miata with the top down just chilling and rowing through gears.
Bet they will be much heavier
"Probably faster than a gas station" - tbh, not likely, it takes about twenty seconds to fill your average scooter, gassing up is extremely quick on two wheels.
True. But the swiping of the card takes a while either way.
@@KirkKreifels Cash is king in Southeast Asia and gas stations are full service. You pull up right to the pump, hand the guy a fiver, and he tops you up by the appropriate amount without you even jumping off the bike. It's obscenely quick.
This is all no matter, because we're talking short enough quantities of time as to make no real difference, but I did want to point out just how fast fill-ups are in these places - it's something to behold.
GOOD LUCK CHARGING THEM UP
Electric transportation sucks in every way... Theres nothing good,cool or positive on this...
Electric vehicles are cool but who is actually buying the carbon neutrality and environment propaganda. The start to finish process of creating batteries is completely devastating to the environment. From mining to refining, it is horrendous
Only idiots who don't ride motorcycles see this as a viable option. EVs motorcycles are much heavier than ICE making handling crap. Then EV has 1/2 or less the range of a ICE motorcycle that already has a short range .
This is horrifying. Im seriously upset. My sport and passion is in the planning stages of being murdered... on the table... ugh. 😞😭
You had all of your kids' ears pierced? 😳
Transform the world huh, well no. Honda is way late in the ev game. The transformation is already underway and all they have is a different version of the same thing
Are you really saving the planet if you only transferring emissions from one geographical spot to the next? While Americans will be enjoying the EVs, The Far East will be rearranging their topography to find the materials. So has anything really been saved?