As the title says, they are a niche market for North America ($$,$$$) whereas in the rest of the world it is a primary means of transportation, so instead of focusing on a global market these bikes are made to be ridden only for fun, 3 months of the year, tops. Real smart. Hate when the other biker coming on the opposite traffic lane waves his arm, like some sort of motorcycle brotherhood gang sign.
It would be great to see solid-state batteries hit the market for e-bikes and e-moto bikes, this would cut the weight by 50%, and have room to expand battery pack size, giving ranges of 2k + !!!
Nice to see more competitors getting into the market. Several of these bikes are attractively designed and explore the possibilities that exist when you don't have the constraints of IC engine, mufflers, gas tank, etc., to worry about. I am, however, disappointed that American manufacturers seem to be following the pattern set by the automakers - focus on the tail ends of the market (high end, expensive like Tarform or H-D or inexpensive and low capability like LandMoto). I have not seen many that fall into the sweet spot of decent range, powerful motor (no hub motors, please, for serious riders), and moderate price. Zero has a couple of models that hover around that target, and the Ryvid bike or the Super73 C1X could be easily upgraded to something that will be useful beyond running to the grocery store or the pub. The Terra Bikes Prime has huge potential beyond just being an off-road jumped-up bicycle (BTW Terra, you are being highly irresponsible showing a rider wearing virtually no protective gear other than a helmet), so I hope to see more from them in the future. Currently, I have a pre-order in on a Switch eScrambler, from New Zealand. This bike is essentially the equal to the LiveWire Del Mar in performance (and looks, IMO) but only costs US$12000.
If seems that this approach would be favored down the road. Expensive high-end products are supposed to cover the price of R&D, so eventually we could get access to more affordable models.
I was equally looking at some European manufacturers that have a better hold on that sweet spot of performance and price but found after I did the the shipping, and duty fees it kind of came out in the wash. I'm hoping Kawasaki and Honda putting their first fully electric models out this year spurs on growth in that entry level price range and performance sphere.
It all depends on what customers want. The hard core biker or motorcycle enthusiast wants to ride a gas powered motorcycle. And there's nothing wrong with that. They're are many gas stations to fill up on gas. But not too many charging stations to fill up on electricity.
It's ok,our power is generated by WWII diesel engine here in INDIANA so the electricity is diesel fuel,solar and wind farms are dedicayed next generation fuel cell portability hydroqen power collection energy.No electricity available for commercial supply from solar grid,no electricity available from wind turbine farms,all used to process next generation "HYDROGEN" for like Americas Cup hydrogen fuel powered race armada chase boats built by Toyota-hydrogen fuel requires huge amounts of energy to isolate and refine as a viable power/energy supply.😮
As a casual observer, these bikes seem generally behind the international curve regarding value for money. Many of the comments here reference this. Also, many of these seem to be niche offerings for fairly wealthy folks. In other countries where many people can’t afford or don’t have the space for a car, e-vehicles are taking off and there is much more competition, thus much better prices. Most have more pleasing designs as well (in my opinion of course). Honestly, I find many of these awkward and clumsy-looking; like an experiment rather than a finished product. I would like to support American manufacturers but, as with the early electric cars, these early offering are just not a good value for me. E-Cars are getting more competitive now, so I hope this trend carries over into this segment as well. Thanks for the video!
Im a DIYer. I built a couple of of E bicycles, a hub drive and a mid drive. I also ride motorcycle.Now Im seeing how easy it can be to convert an exisiting motorcycle to electric. I like hub drive for this task if its a road bike. Only because off road might be alot of bouncing around for a hub motor which is unsprung. Whereas for Ebicycle I like the mid so you can gear the motor.
Another EV bike not mentioned is the Fuell Fllow. They're claiming availability in 2004. The problem with all NEW EV vehicles is it takes years to find out if the early claims of the manufacturers are truthful or vaporware.
It's a nice suggestion, thank you. I talked about this bike years ago when it was announced as a concept. Too bad the news about the 2024 release came only after I posted this.
the Zero SR-X all electric super bike could do with a serious internal combustion variant . . . a supercharged 623 cubic capacity 2-cyl belting out 248 bhp & 358.2 lb-ft of torque . . . mated to a six-speed transmission . . . normally internal combustion powered vehicle or bike is adapted to create an EV variant of the same model . . . but here I'm proposing a internal combustion variant of an existing e-bike . . . the other way round . . .
Many people still ride gas motorcycles. And gas is still good. But let's say. You're riding down the highway on an electric motorcycle. And the motor stalls. You have to get off the bike. Shut the battery off. And then put that battery on again. This is what happened to me. When I had a Rollgood electric bike. I have a much better and heavier electric bike now. Made by Transpro. She runs on two 48 volt electric batteries. And goes up to 32 miles per hour. THE LONE WOLF, that I named my bike on a license plate. Can pass for the body of a Knucklehead frame minus the Knucklehead engine that Harley Davidson manufactured from 1936 - 1947. Solid steele, and all black finish. She rides like a dream.
All ugly or sport style we need retro style bikes that will sell like hot cakes only RGNT and Mevling are doing it we need more company’s in North America that make retro electrics motorcycles
Overpriced Harley Davidson Livewire .... Old habits hard to get rid off 😂 zero...is just taking advantage selling expensive prototypes, Luna $54 thousands lol 😂 $73 thousands C1X 😂😂😂😂 Complain all you want about Chinese low quality products (truth) but keeps real and on their toes SHARKS companies for low price alternative clones.
Sorry, nothing remotely interesting here. Novelties and toys. And if you still believe that electric cars and motorcycles are saving the planet, you're insane. Where do you think the electricity comes from to recharge these vehicles. The ONLY reason to purchase an electric vehicle is performance. E motors have full torque right from idle (if that's even a thing in the e world).
Coal powerplants is not the only source of electricity. If we apply this logic, then a computer/drying/air-con are harmful to the environment since they are using electricity. Electric vehicles are not the best solution but a bit better solution compared to ICE (all environmental aspects taken into account). A small solar setup at home could generate about 5 mwh of electricity per year. That's a lot of riding time if you ask me.
Coal-fired power plants only supply 19.5% of electric power in the US today, and coal continues to decline. Renewables now supply 22% in the US, and rising fast. Green vs not-green discussions are irrelevant - electricity from unsubsidized solar+battery is least expensive, so it wins. Point a panel at the sun, and it generates electricity. Simple wins. Coal is dead.
Thank you for putting this list together! It helps a lot, at least for those of us who want to support home grown North American companies. 🇺🇲 🇨🇦 🇲🇽
Thanks. I wish the EV technology for bikes would progress faster.
@@automotiveterritory EVs are the answer to nothing.
As the title says, they are a niche market for North America ($$,$$$) whereas in the rest of the world it is a primary means of transportation, so instead of focusing on a global market these bikes are made to be ridden only for fun, 3 months of the year, tops. Real smart. Hate when the other biker coming on the opposite traffic lane waves his arm, like some sort of motorcycle brotherhood gang sign.
The Ryvid Anthem looks nice.
It's a nice one indeed
It would be great to see solid-state batteries hit the market for e-bikes and e-moto bikes, this would cut the weight by 50%, and have room to expand battery pack size, giving ranges of 2k + !!!
Solid state batteries are already available in some consumer electronics, but it's hard to say when they will make their way to EVs
American innovation. I have a Volcon Grunt already, and it’s super fun. For street, I’ve got a Del Mar on pre-order. Speeder bike . . .
Got the Landmoto and couldn't be happier! Thanks for the info.
Nice to see more competitors getting into the market. Several of these bikes are attractively designed and explore the possibilities that exist when you don't have the constraints of IC engine, mufflers, gas tank, etc., to worry about. I am, however, disappointed that American manufacturers seem to be following the pattern set by the automakers - focus on the tail ends of the market (high end, expensive like Tarform or H-D or inexpensive and low capability like LandMoto).
I have not seen many that fall into the sweet spot of decent range, powerful motor (no hub motors, please, for serious riders), and moderate price. Zero has a couple of models that hover around that target, and the Ryvid bike or the Super73 C1X could be easily upgraded to something that will be useful beyond running to the grocery store or the pub. The Terra Bikes Prime has huge potential beyond just being an off-road jumped-up bicycle (BTW Terra, you are being highly irresponsible showing a rider wearing virtually no protective gear other than a helmet), so I hope to see more from them in the future.
Currently, I have a pre-order in on a Switch eScrambler, from New Zealand. This bike is essentially the equal to the LiveWire Del Mar in performance (and looks, IMO) but only costs US$12000.
If seems that this approach would be favored down the road. Expensive high-end products are supposed to cover the price of R&D, so eventually we could get access to more affordable models.
I was equally looking at some European manufacturers that have a better hold on that sweet spot of performance and price but found after I did the the shipping, and duty fees it kind of came out in the wash. I'm hoping Kawasaki and Honda putting their first fully electric models out this year spurs on growth in that entry level price range and performance sphere.
It all depends on what customers want. The hard core biker or motorcycle enthusiast wants to ride a gas powered motorcycle.
And there's nothing wrong with that. They're are many gas stations to fill up on gas. But not too many charging stations to fill up on electricity.
It's ok,our power is generated by WWII diesel engine here in INDIANA so the electricity is diesel fuel,solar and wind farms are dedicayed next generation fuel cell portability hydroqen power collection energy.No electricity available for commercial supply from solar grid,no electricity available from wind turbine farms,all used to process next generation "HYDROGEN" for like Americas Cup hydrogen fuel powered race armada chase boats built by Toyota-hydrogen fuel requires huge amounts of energy to isolate and refine as a viable power/energy supply.😮
Thank you very much for the links, big hugs for all, 👍👍👍.
Today we are looking at American manufacturers that are bringing new electric motorcycles in 2023-2024. Which of these is your to pick?
None. They all look like something from a bad dream. Most people could make a better-looking motorcycle in their garage out of used bike parts.
love my 2014 Zero SR
Cool! How long have you had it for?
sondors has been out of business for a while now. poor research
As a casual observer, these bikes seem generally behind the international curve regarding value for money. Many of the comments here reference this.
Also, many of these seem to be niche offerings for fairly wealthy folks. In other countries where many people can’t afford or don’t have the space for a car,
e-vehicles are taking off and there is much more competition, thus much better prices. Most have more pleasing designs as well (in my opinion of course).
Honestly, I find many of these awkward and clumsy-looking; like an experiment rather than a finished product.
I would like to support American manufacturers but, as with the early electric cars, these early offering are just not a good value for me. E-Cars are getting more competitive now, so I hope this trend carries over into this segment as well. Thanks for the video!
What's stopping me is money. And yes make more electric motorcycles, as well as other Electric Mobility devices
Im a DIYer. I built a couple of of E bicycles, a hub drive and a mid drive. I also ride motorcycle.Now Im seeing how easy it can be to convert an exisiting motorcycle to electric. I like hub drive for this task if its a road bike. Only because off road might be alot of bouncing around for a hub motor which is unsprung. Whereas for Ebicycle I like the mid so you can gear the motor.
Another EV bike not mentioned is the Fuell Fllow. They're claiming availability in 2004. The problem with all NEW EV vehicles is it takes years to find out if the early claims of the manufacturers are truthful or vaporware.
It's a nice suggestion, thank you. I talked about this bike years ago when it was announced as a concept. Too bad the news about the 2024 release came only after I posted this.
Like your format!!
Appreciate it! Would love to see you back on the channel. New episodes every Wednesday and Saturday.
the Zero SR-X all electric super bike could do with a serious internal combustion variant . . . a supercharged 623 cubic capacity 2-cyl belting out 248 bhp & 358.2 lb-ft of torque . . . mated to a six-speed transmission . . . normally internal combustion powered vehicle or bike is adapted to create an EV variant of the same model . . . but here I'm proposing a internal combustion variant of an existing e-bike . . . the other way round . . .
I was looking at your E bikes motorcycles the 12 bucks. How can a person with a fit income? Be able to purchase those at dollar prices
These look like city commuters and fun bikes i guess it makes them practical although the $54k model is kinda expensive.
54k for that electric motorcycle go crazy
Talking about Tarform?
Many people still ride gas motorcycles. And gas is still good. But let's say. You're riding down the highway on an electric motorcycle.
And the motor stalls. You have to get off the bike. Shut the battery off. And then put that battery on again.
This is what happened to me. When I had a Rollgood electric bike. I have a much better and heavier electric bike now. Made by Transpro.
She runs on two 48 volt electric batteries. And goes up to 32 miles per hour.
THE LONE WOLF, that I named my bike on a license plate. Can pass for the body of a Knucklehead frame minus the Knucklehead engine that Harley Davidson manufactured from 1936 - 1947.
Solid steele, and all black finish. She rides like a dream.
Brothers and sisters the demand is not there yet I say you guys should go hibrid because it’s sufficient half electric half gas
They are not cafe racer bikes where mentioned
Parecen motos hechas por aficionados en algún garaje.
Just picked up the land moto district street version 3 weeks ago. Put on a thousand miles! Still going! Love it!
Nice!! How much did you get it for?
@automotiveterritor A little over ten k. I got the biggest battery and few extra things.
Yes they need to make more but better style not some old crazy style that they got right now
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I thought Sondors went bust?
The anthem is a lot more now
Verge TS
Make one that looks like a real motorcycle
What is your definition of a 'real' motorcycle?
@@automotiveterritory One with an ICE. No thanks on EVs.
LOL second model... might be hard because they went bankrupt.
Huh? Are you sure? They presented a new model last month.
All ugly or sport style we need retro style bikes that will sell like hot cakes only RGNT and Mevling are doing it we need more company’s in North America that make retro electrics motorcycles
The only retro-style manufacturer I remember is the Brutus Motorcycle.
Pavement riding is illegal in most of the world 😂 😅
It’s not a motor cycle it’s a joke
How so?
Money nathing elss😢😢😢😢
Overpriced Harley Davidson Livewire .... Old habits hard to get rid off 😂
zero...is just taking advantage selling expensive prototypes, Luna $54 thousands lol 😂
$73 thousands C1X 😂😂😂😂
Complain all you want about Chinese low quality products (truth) but keeps real and on their toes SHARKS companies for low price alternative clones.
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My opinion...these bikes are just ugly! Except the Zero DSR-X, but its too heavy and too expensive to have as a 2nd (or 3rd) bike in my garage.
Nice list.. From beautiful bikes to more and more ugly ones the longer the video ran...
Cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪🤘😎🤙
Are there any models that you liked at all? =)
Most of them suck. Few are good. Super 73 is promising and rumble motors.
Nice to see that you liked at least some models
Sorry, nothing remotely interesting here.
Novelties and toys.
And if you still believe that electric cars and motorcycles are saving the planet, you're insane.
Where do you think the electricity comes from to recharge these vehicles. The ONLY reason to purchase an electric vehicle is performance. E motors have full torque right from idle (if that's even a thing in the e world).
Coal powerplants is not the only source of electricity. If we apply this logic, then a computer/drying/air-con are harmful to the environment since they are using electricity.
Electric vehicles are not the best solution but a bit better solution compared to ICE (all environmental aspects taken into account).
A small solar setup at home could generate about 5 mwh of electricity per year. That's a lot of riding time if you ask me.
Coal-fired power plants only supply 19.5% of electric power in the US today, and coal continues to decline. Renewables now supply 22% in the US, and rising fast. Green vs not-green discussions are irrelevant - electricity from unsubsidized solar+battery is least expensive, so it wins. Point a panel at the sun, and it generates electricity. Simple wins. Coal is dead.
This article is plagued by a woke obtuse idoligy.
Presented in a boring sleep inducing manner leaves one yawning ...
Motor bike ?. 😅
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