@@ryebread095Same! The blue lagoon color is beautiful. I’m not sure about sand dune pearl 😕. Honda doesn’t give us a lot of good paint options for the civic.
@@1utube01Station wagons are not interesting for mass market. No one buys them other very few people and of course germans, but then again people in Germany don't like Honda.
This is what we need…more hybrids. The electric Viking channel and his followers ripping on Toyota and Honda cause they’re not jumping into the EV bandwagon
This guy is a joke. Those people don't understand the automotive industry at all. They started the discussion with EV, which means basically yesterday.
It felt like people in the late 90s ringing-in the death of traditional retail due to online retail; they weren’t wrong, just way off on the timing and eventual adoption rate overall. There’s always going to be some type of ice-hybrid-ev options from now until forever, just the % mix will gradually change to EV and hybrid as the value proposition improves.
@@senorhayomayo I really don't mind EVs, I'm quite excited and I already know that my first EV will be the LF-ZC. My problem with EV people is how they want to bury legacy brands just because they don't switch as fast as they would love to. But the brands who tried to shift too fast are struggling right now!
All current Honda Hybrids work the same. They are serial hybrids. The layout of the motors doesn't matter. The traction motor powers the car all the time. The engine turns a generator that powers the traction motor and charges the battery. In certain situations at highway speeds the two motors can be clutched together effectively making the engine connected to the wheels. (in the CR-V there are two clutches, one for lower speeds and one for highway speeds). They call it an eCVT but it isn't a transmission at all. It is direct drive like an electric car. Older Honda hybrids would just wind up the engine when you hit the accelerator but I think they added the rpm changes to mimic shifts to make people more comfortable. I think they only do this in sport mode if the car has it. It is very convincing I've found. I've never driven any other hybrids but I have heard that sometimes they feel a little weird during transitions to different power delivery. Honda has done a remarkable job making these cars feel 'normal'.
The serial hybrid concept seems very well suited to simulated gear changes, where you could click up and down through 6 or 7 predetermined relationships between engine speed and vehicle speed. The top predetermined ratio could even be just direct drive, and the ones below it would be using the serial hybrid setup.
@aspecreviews The serial concept means there is no relationship, predetermined or otherwise, between engine speed and vehicle speed. Most of the time when it runs, the engine is at 2000 rpm and 34 HP. (Well, that was the last generation; the engine was tweaked a little, but the concept is the same.) That is where it is most efficient. It powers only the generator, and the Power Control Unit adjusts the 34 HP (25 kW) electric flow up or down to send the right amount to the motor. You can see this happening in the Power Flow Meter. Simulated shifts could be accomplished without adjusting power to the motor at all - just change the engine's operation but compensate for the change with the battery. But this would only change the sound and decrease fuel efficiency. You wouldn't get the momentary loss of power which too many drivers think means a gain. So they also adjust that power, _independent_ of the engine changes. This entire process means you lose both power, and fuel, in order to get those simulated shifts. When Kirk "torque brakes" at 11:50? That does absolutely nothing physical to the engine. It does not "spool up" anything. What it does, is turn off the simulated shifting so you can get this car's actual 0-60 time.
@@jeffjo8732The parallel hybrid application also separates the engine RPMs from the wheel RPMs, as is in Ford Escape/Maverick and most Toyotas. Parallel hybrids have more flexibility and are able to deliver more power.
@@afcgeo882 "The parallel hybrid application also separates the engine RPMs from the wheel RPMs..." Parallel hybrid operation means a Motor-Generator drives the same drive shaft as the ICE. That is, the RPM (its already plural) of the engine and wheels are linked. In my 2018 Accord Hybrid, it means that ENGINE_RPM=37*MPH. But this is only used for "overdrive." In a Hyundai, it operates before the DCT 8 transmission so there are eight ratios. "... as is in Ford Escape/Maverick and most Toyotas." They use what is called "Parallel-Serial" operation, as patented at the University of Maryland before Toyota sto..., er, "independently developed" the same thing. Parallel-Serial, sometimes Power-Split, means that one MG operates, essentially, in parallel and the other in serial (the ICE drives it while it powers the other motor). This is accomplished thru a planetary gearset. In a Toyota, it maintains the relationship 13*MG2=5*MG1+18*ICE. The wheels are geared directly to MG2, and are always "linked" to the engine. Even when it is off. The RPM of MG1 controls the RPM of the ICE. That's why Toyota calls it an "electrically controlled CVT." "Parallel hybrids have more flexibility ...." Assuming you mean parallel-serial, it is because they need it. They do not provide better performance. All it means is that either MG can be in serial, or in parallel, operation. "... and are able to deliver more power." That depends on the sizes of the components, not the system. The most powerful hybrids are serial.
This jumped to the top of my list. 59mpgs, 200HP, 230TQ. Perfect normal zippy car with hill assist. Love the Honda e-CVT design and the fact that it has an actual clutch that links to the engine vs a torque converter. Also love the fact that e-CVT has no relation to the dreaded regular belt driven CVTs. It's perfect in my engineering eyes.
very popular where I live too. This is a Honda town and everyone wants to have the latest and greatest. One tidbit fact is the new Civic is as large as previous Accord generations. Another reason people like it, but of course big thing is that design was better overall than the previous gen, namely comfort and sound. Much much better.
We own a 2022 Civic LX and a 2025 Sport Touring Hybrid sedan, newest cars we've ever owned and I could not be happier. They are just fantastic cars to drive, great handling, good brakes, fantastic fuel economy, and the torque and hp from the hybrid makes it genuinely engaging to drive.
Kirk, Honda has thrown down the gauntlet with their impressive Civic hatch hybrid! Let's see if this will finally spur on Toyota to bring their BEST compact Hybrids to our market. Naturally, I am referring to the Corolla Touring and Touring Sports. 😁
The Camry Hybrid is where most Toyota Hybrid fans will go if they need more room. The Corolla is oddly sized, actually smaller than the 11th gen Civic. So most folks will either go Prius or Camry on Hybrid side for car needs. I was amazed by how roomy the 11th gen Civic was compared to the Accord. I almost wonder if the Accord could be replaced by a 12th gen Civic.
@@sn4rl277 The new Camry Hybrid is a very fine car and the AWD LE is easily the best sedan value on the market. However that does not mean the Corolla should be left to stagnate especially when better, more competitive Corollas are already in production. As regards the Prius, it is very appealing to some while others would consider it an indulgent and utterly impractical offering.
Yes thank you for showing the Sand Dune Pearl; I was juggling between that until I saw it and Gray Pearl. I'm liking the gray more. I feel the Sand would look better on a SUV or truck.
Got Civic Sport Hatchback 2024 it’s my first non SUV car. Before that I had Pathfinder 2023. Love the civic, handles great, fuel economy is great. The 2.0 liter engine is good enough even after 3.5 in Nissan. Really love the look of the hatch!
One point of order: It's not how tall the wheels are, necessarily, but how wide the tires are that contributes to overall MPG. You mentioned the LE and SE Camry's, and the biggest difference between those two "base" models, is that the LE wears 215 section tires, and the SE wears 235 section (talking about the 8th Gen as I'm not sure the 9th Gen is the same). The newest Prius has 19" wheels, but the section width is 195. It basically has pizza cutters and gets nearly 60mpg from factory. Bigger wheels do weight more and that can contribute to lower MPG in start/stop driving, but overall, it's the contact patch and the rolling resistance that affects MPG.
@@HumbleBearcat it’s similar to the accord hybrid and Crv hybrid from 2019-2022 and it’s similar to this civic but the insight has less horsepower than the new civic and the new accord and Crv. Same kind of hybrid system with the e-cvt and the electric motor driving the wheels. The insight is not a race car but if you need to overtake or get somewhere quick you sure can. I love it
Honda should've kept the Insight production until the arrival of the Civic hybrid. There was a 2 year slack when Honda discontinued the production on insight.
@@HumbleBearcat I agree, the insight didn’t get enough love, I have feeling it might come back out though. I don’t know know why they got rid of the clarity and redesign it
it's available in europe, australia and asia. i own a zr-v e:hev (hr-v in the states) in australia. it rides and handles brilliantly, better than the corolla cross imo. it is also very efficient, i am achieving 4.3l/100km.
@@aluisious Prius is definitely polarizing but it’s on the same platform as Corolla (TNGA-C) and it would be close in price to a Corolla hatchback hybrid. Prius accomplishes the same task.
Beautiful car. If I were to own a civic it would certainly be the hatch. What keeps me from wanting to actually buy one is the fact that dealers are charging nearly 33k (not including markups) on a vehicle that doesn’t offer lumbar support, rear AC vents or USB ports. What’s up with those wheels? They’re beautiful, don’t get me wrong… but 18-inchers when there’s no spare tire offered? I can see these being poor victims to potholes and rough roads. Cmon Honda!
@@zachylec is there still markups? 6 month ago I was shopping for Rav4 hybrid, found one $1500 below msrp. Yeah they installed options for 1800 I don’t need, so I walked away
I agree 100% that Honda should have offered a trim with 17" wheels. I have the Accord EX-L hybrid and get over 50 mpg in the summer months with 17's. No other hybrid Accord can get to 50 with 19" wheels.
What I tuned in for Kirk was to see your comments comparing this to the Accord hybrid. All I heard were comments comparing it to the Camry or to the Corolla. How would you compare this civic hybrid to the Accord hybrid in the areas of smoothness, quiet, and driving enjoyment? Did I miss it? If so, could someone please tell me where in the video I can find it. Thanks!
Unfortunatly not available in the Netherlands, would be far to expensive......Honda has almost no sales and is an expensive niche in the market. Always loved the engineering of Honda as well as the superb build quality
@@avdp9095 can you buy it where it's cheaper and ship it in? I'm my home country people often import the car they want or ship a car there with them as they return home to live or to live hybrid (there enough that rental cars are a waste, but some months abroad as well).
@@MontegoBayTechTalk Shipping and importing cars could make the price 2x 3x higher, due to taxes and levies subject to different countries' regulations. For my country, it is roughly 3x the price.
I ordered a Prius LE that's coming next month. Even though I really like the Civic, but it doesn't have smaller 17" tires and also a place to put in a spare tire & tool kit like the Prius does, so I am keeping that Prius. I also like that the Prius is made in Japan.
Can't wait for the week long test. Have to say I'm bummed that there's no options for a heated steering wheel or ventilated seats though. I live in an area that gets quite cold and I've never felt I needed heated seats, if it's cold out I'm already bundled up. But every time I get into a cold car I hate either waiting for the vents to warm up the steering wheel so I can touch it with my bare hands or having to put on gloves for the first few minutes of driving. Similarly I hate it when my back gets sweaty on long drives despite the cabin being set to 72F.
agree lack of heated steering sucks especially since 2 of the 3 civic hybrid hatch trims sold in Canada (and built at the same US factory) include a heated steering wheel as standard equipment
A disadvantage of this is that not only does it not have a spare tire, unlike the sedan version, there physically isn’t enough space under the cargo floor to add your own compact spare tire.
@@MontegoBayTechTalk What trunk? It’s a hatchback. The cargo floor behind the rear seat it shorter on the hatchback than on the sedan. So, the space under the floor is physically too small to fit a spare tire. On the sedan, there is room for a spare tire under the trunk floor, but Honda elected to not provide a spare tire primarily to cut costs. If you ask them, they will say not providing a spare makes for a greener planet and you can just call a tow truck if you need a new tire in the middle of a road trip.
The problem with roadside assistance is that they won’t have a tire on their truck either. So, they can only tow you to the dealer that will sell you a very overpriced replacement tire if they are even open at the time. You can have AAA tow you to an independent tire shop, but they may also be closed at the time you need them or may be out of stock in your tire size. So, plan on adding a few days in a motel during your holiday weekend road trip.
@@27degrees they’re nice, but I love the contrast with black and a rugged color like this. Makes it look badass. I’d just get used sport wheels probably
I drove a civic hybrid touring a few days ago. It's quieter, more torque compared to Corolla or Elantra. Goes up hill without engine straining even on an empty battery, while Elantra would just keep downshiftinh between 5th and 6th gear all the way up hill. the new civic hybrid is just a better driving experience overall when compared to the competition, with very slight MPG hit.
I bought the Sport Touring Hybrid Sedan. The Elantra can get better gas mileage but at a 60 HP deficit and given the experience one of my neighbors had with his Tucson Hybrid he wasn’t averaging near EPA estimates.
It's a shame that the 2025 model year car doesn't have any rear USB-Cs. I don't understand why Honda didn't include them when all of their competitors do. Also, the HR-V doesn't have a rear armrest or cupholders, which is simply ridiculous.
So I own a 2024 Civic hatchback sport automatic I use to comute to work. I comute around 20k miles a year. I am currently getting around 35mpg. Coming up on 20k miles, and I am completely sold on the 11th gen Civic, but I want more. What I want is a Civic SI hybrid, 6 speed manual getting 50 mpg, and all wheel drive for 35k $. Honda can do it.
I live in Nashville and love the idea of an SI but you won’t catch me rowing my own gears in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour that it takes to get home from work. 😂
I would rather drive manual and row the gears than be on the highway and not have to row it. That's what the stick is for...well the right hand and the left foot. Gotta keep the feet busy too
This is not my first color choice, but I do like it. I would like it better if they had an interior color to go with it. I am tired of black and grey. Your beard is looking good.
There's no alternator or starter. That's all handled by the smaller motor and battery. No serpentine belt here. The simplicity is beautiful. It's different than Toyota hybrids, but share in the simplicity.
Now if Honda would just come out with a Hybrid powertrain for the Large Platform vehicles. This only has like 30ft-lbs less torque than a Honda Ridgeline.
Today I was able to test drive the 2025 Civic hatchback hybrid, sport touring version. There is a lot to like about the car. I sat in the rear seat and had decent amount of leg room. During the test drive I punched the accelerator and the car really took off. Nice acceleration and power. Of course no spare tire. But that's becoming normal on hybrids. The cargo compartment has lots of space, much more than the Civic sedan. Fold down the rear seats and it almost has the same room as a small SUV. The window sticker has a price of around $34k. I noticed the sticker didn't show the usual dealer add-ons, such as paint and door protection, anti-theft, and other things that most people don't want. I was ready to buy, but while in the sales office I found out that the car is not for sale. Honda sent it to the dealer as a demo. It can't be sold for 90 days. That's a bummer.
Who is telling these manufacturers to use this color? It’s on the new X3, it’s on the new Civic Hatch, it’s on the new iPhone. There is some customer data corporates that consults with manufacturers about customer color schemes.
You will learn the paddles quickly once you start using them. We just purchased a Civic because we love our Accord hybrid so much. The more you use the paddles correctly the better the fuel economy is! It became a game between me and my son of who could get better mileage.
It is not a fun discussion. Its actually a huge headache that the hybrid has a quieter cabin and obviously the MPG over the manual trans of the SI. How the hell am I supposed to choose between the two? I love the interior/exterior look of the SI and love driving manual cars, but the hybrid in hatchback makes so much sense. Somebody make it make sense.
To those shocked by the price, it’s nothing new. During the previous iterations of Civic Hybrid (7th-9th gen), the hybrid has always been thousands of dollars more expensive than the gasoline counterparts. In fact, it was even more expensive than the SI during the 9th gen
@@afcgeo882 it died out because the older versions made lower horsepower than the base and it was not as practical as other civics. But this time, Honda justified the higher price because it is more powerful than the Si and cargo practicality has not been sacrificed
I believe Toyota will phase out the 1.8 hybrid powertrain in favor of the 2.0 like the one in the Prius & Cross hybrid. They just did that on the Lexus UX for 2025. When they put that Prius powertrain in the Corolla without adding too much price then it will become a pretty good buy especially if you just get the low trim LE. I hope the Prius powertrain also finds home in the Corolla hatchback and also make it bigger.
I'm old school....Started driving commercial vehicles in 1980. GPS? Finally adopted it in 2015, but I have to have the map setting "north up" otherwise I find it disorienting. Adaptive cruise control? No thank you! The one setting I applaud is the regen braking turning off after each use. What's always been missing in the big rigs is the "jake brake" having to manually turn it off once set. Forgetting to turn it off and starting from a stop interferes with the manual shifting and acceleration. That said, my ex-wife's brand new (2000 miles) HR-V was destroyed in the path of Hurricane Helene. I've been recommending she replace the HR-V with this Civic Hatchback Hybrid. For me personally, I would pick the Civic Type R! (or Integra Type S) Forget the Hybrid and Si, fuel mileage be damned. As a former EVO owner, I'll go for performance any day. RIP Mitsubishi EVO.
@@matthewfink490 could you go into the detail? What was better about the driving experience specifically with the civic? It’s to my consensus that the civic will handle better and is quicker but has the rougher suspension, louder on the interior, smaller, and has worse mpg in real world scenarios? Also something I felt when I sat in the regular 2024 civic sport touring hatchback and sedan variants compared to the 2024 Camry XSE (v6 and I4 variants) is that the Camry just feels so much more solid.
I was thinking the same exact thing! Rubber band tires are problematic-very easy to damage the rim, a much stiffer ride, less efficient. And no spare. I don't know what Honda is thinking. No way I would drive around without a spare. I can change a wheel in 15 minutes and be on my way with a spare, as opposed to waiting for god knows how long for a tow truck and going through that hassle. No way!
How does the feel of the hybrid compare power wise to the SI? I'm looking at both, but prefer to shift. The hybrid looks like a compelling option though for a great daily!
It looks like this car is for me when you said “look at that Cherokee on the side of the road”. I just got mine back from the dealer that took a month to fix. 😂
Overall package: would this be a better value and driving experience over the Camry? Bc the Camry seems to be a great value and you get a proven drive train.
You can’t go wrong with either, even though the Camry is proven, with the civic you’re still buying a Honda. So you won’t have any issues. If you need awd get the Camry. I live in upstate New York and we get a lot of snow, I’ve always had front wheel drive with blizzak snow tires. I’ve never had an issue. I’ll be trading in my 2017 in a couple months for this. I’d pick the civic because it’s smaller and more nimble but still is decent size, for me.
@@ZACH_95_ it's funny you mention the size. I had a 2015 Camry and I always felt it was the perfect size for a sedan. The new platform is a bit too long for my liking. Still a great looking vehicle tho.
New Prius is a class leading compact car 👑🤴👑 and so called RIP is nonsense. New civic is excellent compact car and this hybrid version is brilliant. New Prius and civic are the top two best in its segment without a question.❤
After owning the sedan for a month and learning how it functions have come to the conclusion that a tachometer would make no sense and be of no purposeful use. It would be nice to maybe have a coolant temperature display though. After 3k miles my overall Trip B avg is 49.7 mpg.
I test drove the Sedan Sport and it did not come with a coolant temperature which is odd. I don't believe there is a tachometer, it's a hybrid powertrain meter.
So glad my commute is only 8 miles from home to work so I don’t care about mileage I care more about performance lol. Now a 350hp type R i would be all about it :)
Wonder if Kirk gonna do comparison MPG tests again between new civic hybrid, prius, and elantra hybrid. Curious who is gonna be new MPG king for compact sedan.
I’d definitely appreciate Honda implementing a hybrid in the standard models. The 1.5 Hybrid found in the Fit Hybrid and last generation Insight would make a lot of sense on the LX and Sport and compete with the Corolla and Elantra vs this powertrain which competes with the Camry and Sonata.
Thanks! Any news on an HR-V hybrid or Acura version of the HR-V? I have two of the original and would like to upgrade my '16 to a newer model. Liking the slightly larger Civic platform model.
HR-V Hybrid I’m predicting that it will come once Honda does its mid cycle refresh. It’s sold overseas as the ZR-V e:HEV. As for a Hybrid Integra, Just Pray lol. I think Acura would be silly not to put this powertrain in the non-manual Integra’s. Keep the 1.5 Turbo for the Manual Intgegras.
ADX for Acura will be revealed this year yet. Should be the same 1.5t & CVT from Integra. HR-V hybrid has to come next year if Honda wants to keep their momentum with that model.
I just don't understand why rear AC vents aren't standard on every vehicle manufactured. It doesn't even cost that much to add it. At this point they should make the usb ports standard also.
Man I really don’t care about rear AC vents. Everyone complains about it, but I rarely have passengers. Civic in general is not the best multi-passenger car anyway.
I can't see anyone getting near toyota for pure hybrids, I have their 5th generation hybrid on my toyota Corolla touring sports and it is excellent, so smooth, engine noise suppressed very well very reliable and very efficient getting 70 mpg UK
Anybody who thinks this hasn't seriously considered the Honda hybrids. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your opinion of the Toyota, just that a Honda is as good, or better, in every way.
ALL Europe features are gone! Is it too much to have dual rear pockets, vents, USB, front lumbar, and pano roof in America? Sadly, Honda thinks so.....
I'm super excited for this car. I absolutely hate this color and have no idea how it got approved to go on a civic. If they wanted an outdoorsy rugged color they should have oicked a forest green. That brown only belongs on trucks. I'm bummed about no rear vents or USBCs, but I don't really carry people in the back too often. I want gas mileage and a hatchback so I can carry stuff. I have plenty of project cars so I don't need an SI. So sport touring hybrid for the win for me.
@@kenhoward3512 I definitely seem Toyota do this but can't point my finger on a Honda that is done it. I'd love to know more. Can you give me some examples? For me if I'm being honest I'm looking at this car but the boost blue is just too much of an extreme color for a daily. I was hoping for something subtle but still pretty like the blue lagoon Pearl. Then we're hit with this disgusting brown. I guess urban gray pearl it is. With it, no light grey interior. Yuck. Lol
Hey Kirk I wonder if with your little secrets and tips you can squeeze better efficiency out of this than Prius, especially considering the wheel and tire discrepancies on the two.
I came to a Sport Touring Hybrid from a Passat and Honda did a fantastic job. I would definitely recommend the Civic and it’s also not going to cost you a bloody fortune to maintain (thats before even considering the negative maintenance the Hybrid system brings to the table). VW’s even the old reliable 2.5 I5 will always have a minor problem that can basically torpedo the engine.
Yeah but it’s bigger, boatier, and has less features if you’re paying the same price (SE trim). Biggest deal breaker for me is the base level sound system in the SE camry, whereas the civic touring hybrid has the Bose, which isn’t great, but it’s decent.
@@SIIKAP1Today I learned that there are people who would actually pick a Civic over a Camry at the same price point because of the stereo. The future is bright 👍
I really like this updated hybrid hatch a lot more than i'd expected I would. Not really sure about the Sand Dune pearl color. I'd love the Lagoon Blue on this, that's available on the sedan.
That 18 wheels never will beat Prius fuel consumption with 15” wheels. Hope that 55 mpg is real. I downgraded my 4th gen Prius touring wheels from 17” to 15” (same outer diameter), 65-68 mpg real all summer, on dashboard 70-74 mpg. Toyota is optimistic 6%. Looks like Civic has bigger cargo, which is big plus
How did you figure out which tires to get that would be compatible with your car? I want to upgrade my car but all the ones i'm looking at have 19s and I want to downgrade them to 17.
@@destroyerofsimps6574 unfortunately you will need 17” rims. This 2” you will compensate by higher profile tires in order to have same outer diameter and that tires will be narrower. For me was easy, because touring model has 17”, but base is 15”, so I swapped with other Prius.
I'm ready to trade in my accord. I've moved from civic to acura to accord. I'd really like an AWD hybrid but sadly I'll probably go Toyota this time as I can't seem to find a Honda that gives me the right combination of features and price. Too bad Honda is still working with Bose (the finest sounding dixie cups on the market).
I drove a 2025 Camry SE and a 2025 Civic Hybrid Sedan. I much prefer the Civic due to the driving dynamic and the fit and finish of the cabin. The Civic will give you a sportier drive (it's lighter and has a lot of torque) and I just overall preferred the steering and suspension of the Civic. The Camry still feels like a Toyota with the more economical feeling interior. Button feedback on the Civic is just much nicer.
@@rockyelbrodiI agree completely. I also think the microfiber on the XLE looks terrible. I ended up buying the Civic Sport Touring Hybrid. I absolutely love it and currently averaging over EPA.
Honda needs to put rear vents and usb outlets in the back. I couldn’t buy this because my kids need these for road trips and I’m not going to have 10ft cables running to the backseat come on Honda
I would buy this car if it had a 360 camera system and a larger infotainment screen. It's expensive compared to it's competitors so it should have those items. I love Honda so I hope they make a few improvements. I'm not a fan of the new front end. The pre-refresh was much more attractive.
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Like the hatch more than the sedan.
I do too, I just wish the new dark blue option was available on the hatch
@@ryebread095Same! The blue lagoon color is beautiful. I’m not sure about sand dune pearl 😕. Honda doesn’t give us a lot of good paint options for the civic.
The civic hatch is more of a liftback than a hatch.
Bring back wagons, Accords used to have one, it was a short period in history.
@@1utube01Station wagons are not interesting for mass market. No one buys them other very few people and of course germans, but then again people in Germany don't like Honda.
This is what we need…more hybrids. The electric Viking channel and his followers ripping on Toyota and Honda cause they’re not jumping into the EV bandwagon
This guy is a joke. Those people don't understand the automotive industry at all. They started the discussion with EV, which means basically yesterday.
Yea...it was the natural progression.
@@JoVERICAIN seems like he’s sobbing in the Chinese knob😂keep those Chinese EVs out of the American market
It felt like people in the late 90s ringing-in the death of traditional retail due to online retail; they weren’t wrong, just way off on the timing and eventual adoption rate overall. There’s always going to be some type of ice-hybrid-ev options from now until forever, just the % mix will gradually change to EV and hybrid as the value proposition improves.
@@senorhayomayo I really don't mind EVs, I'm quite excited and I already know that my first EV will be the LF-ZC. My problem with EV people is how they want to bury legacy brands just because they don't switch as fast as they would love to. But the brands who tried to shift too fast are struggling right now!
All current Honda Hybrids work the same. They are serial hybrids. The layout of the motors doesn't matter. The traction motor powers the car all the time. The engine turns a generator that powers the traction motor and charges the battery. In certain situations at highway speeds the two motors can be clutched together effectively making the engine connected to the wheels. (in the CR-V there are two clutches, one for lower speeds and one for highway speeds). They call it an eCVT but it isn't a transmission at all. It is direct drive like an electric car. Older Honda hybrids would just wind up the engine when you hit the accelerator but I think they added the rpm changes to mimic shifts to make people more comfortable. I think they only do this in sport mode if the car has it. It is very convincing I've found. I've never driven any other hybrids but I have heard that sometimes they feel a little weird during transitions to different power delivery. Honda has done a remarkable job making these cars feel 'normal'.
The serial hybrid concept seems very well suited to simulated gear changes, where you could click up and down through 6 or 7 predetermined relationships between engine speed and vehicle speed. The top predetermined ratio could even be just direct drive, and the ones below it would be using the serial hybrid setup.
@aspecreviews The serial concept means there is no relationship, predetermined or otherwise, between engine speed and vehicle speed. Most of the time when it runs, the engine is at 2000 rpm and 34 HP. (Well, that was the last generation; the engine was tweaked a little, but the concept is the same.) That is where it is most efficient. It powers only the generator, and the Power Control Unit adjusts the 34 HP (25 kW) electric flow up or down to send the right amount to the motor. You can see this happening in the Power Flow Meter.
Simulated shifts could be accomplished without adjusting power to the motor at all - just change the engine's operation but compensate for the change with the battery. But this would only change the sound and decrease fuel efficiency. You wouldn't get the momentary loss of power which too many drivers think means a gain. So they also adjust that power, _independent_ of the engine changes. This entire process means you lose both power, and fuel, in order to get those simulated shifts.
When Kirk "torque brakes" at 11:50? That does absolutely nothing physical to the engine. It does not "spool up" anything. What it does, is turn off the simulated shifting so you can get this car's actual 0-60 time.
@@jeffjo8732The parallel hybrid application also separates the engine RPMs from the wheel RPMs, as is in Ford Escape/Maverick and most Toyotas. Parallel hybrids have more flexibility and are able to deliver more power.
@@afcgeo882 "The parallel hybrid application also separates the engine RPMs from the wheel RPMs..." Parallel hybrid operation means a Motor-Generator drives the same drive shaft as the ICE. That is, the RPM (its already plural) of the engine and wheels are linked. In my 2018 Accord Hybrid, it means that ENGINE_RPM=37*MPH. But this is only used for "overdrive." In a Hyundai, it operates before the DCT 8 transmission so there are eight ratios.
"... as is in Ford Escape/Maverick and most Toyotas." They use what is called "Parallel-Serial" operation, as patented at the University of Maryland before Toyota sto..., er, "independently developed" the same thing. Parallel-Serial, sometimes Power-Split, means that one MG operates, essentially, in parallel and the other in serial (the ICE drives it while it powers the other motor). This is accomplished thru a planetary gearset. In a Toyota, it maintains the relationship 13*MG2=5*MG1+18*ICE. The wheels are geared directly to MG2, and are always "linked" to the engine. Even when it is off. The RPM of MG1 controls the RPM of the ICE. That's why Toyota calls it an "electrically controlled CVT."
"Parallel hybrids have more flexibility ...." Assuming you mean parallel-serial, it is because they need it. They do not provide better performance. All it means is that either MG can be in serial, or in parallel, operation.
"... and are able to deliver more power." That depends on the sizes of the components, not the system. The most powerful hybrids are serial.
Nissans have real serial hybrids, in their e-Power models, but I guess you can only buy them in Asia and Europe.
This jumped to the top of my list. 59mpgs, 200HP, 230TQ. Perfect normal zippy car with hill assist. Love the Honda e-CVT design and the fact that it has an actual clutch that links to the engine vs a torque converter. Also love the fact that e-CVT has no relation to the dreaded regular belt driven CVTs. It's perfect in my engineering eyes.
Two issues: no spare wheel and clutch wear.
It won't get constant 59 mpg. More like high 40s.
This is an extremely compelling package...... there's a million civics around me these days. Honda hit a home run this generation.
very popular where I live too. This is a Honda town and everyone wants to have the latest and greatest. One tidbit fact is the new Civic is as large as previous Accord generations. Another reason people like it, but of course big thing is that design was better overall than the previous gen, namely comfort and sound. Much much better.
@@jamesmedina2062 agreed!
We own a 2022 Civic LX and a 2025 Sport Touring Hybrid sedan, newest cars we've ever owned and I could not be happier. They are just fantastic cars to drive, great handling, good brakes, fantastic fuel economy, and the torque and hp from the hybrid makes it genuinely engaging to drive.
Kirk, Honda has thrown down the gauntlet with their impressive Civic hatch hybrid! Let's see if this will finally spur on Toyota to bring their BEST compact Hybrids to our market. Naturally, I am referring to the Corolla Touring and Touring Sports. 😁
We'll have to wait for the next-gen Corolla to see some fireworks I think.
@@KirkKreifels Stay tuned. Toyota could start by giving all Corollas the Prius wheelbase. 😉
Toyota has stated giving mazda their drive train and motor. This is a smart move.
The Camry Hybrid is where most Toyota Hybrid fans will go if they need more room. The Corolla is oddly sized, actually smaller than the 11th gen Civic. So most folks will either go Prius or Camry on Hybrid side for car needs. I was amazed by how roomy the 11th gen Civic was compared to the Accord. I almost wonder if the Accord could be replaced by a 12th gen Civic.
@@sn4rl277 The new Camry Hybrid is a very fine car and the AWD LE is easily the best sedan value on the market. However that does not mean the Corolla should be left to stagnate especially when better, more competitive Corollas are already in production. As regards the Prius, it is very appealing to some while others would consider it an indulgent and utterly impractical offering.
Wow. Not only did you get us a video on the hatch, you got the Sand dune pearl 🙏 thank you!
Yes thank you for showing the Sand Dune Pearl; I was juggling between that until I saw it and Gray Pearl. I'm liking the gray more. I feel the Sand would look better on a SUV or truck.
Great color for people who don't want to wash their cars, so buy it in a dirt color to start.
Got Civic Sport Hatchback 2024 it’s my first non SUV car. Before that I had Pathfinder 2023. Love the civic, handles great, fuel economy is great. The 2.0 liter engine is good enough even after 3.5 in Nissan. Really love the look of the hatch!
What color did u get?
One point of order:
It's not how tall the wheels are, necessarily, but how wide the tires are that contributes to overall MPG. You mentioned the LE and SE Camry's, and the biggest difference between those two "base" models, is that the LE wears 215 section tires, and the SE wears 235 section (talking about the 8th Gen as I'm not sure the 9th Gen is the same). The newest Prius has 19" wheels, but the section width is 195. It basically has pizza cutters and gets nearly 60mpg from factory. Bigger wheels do weight more and that can contribute to lower MPG in start/stop driving, but overall, it's the contact patch and the rolling resistance that affects MPG.
I still have my 2022 insight it’s been reliable and I love it, love this civic hybrid as well
We have a 2020 Insight Touring and love the 48-53 mpg.
What kind of transmission does the Insight have? Is it the same as this Civic Hybrid?
@@HumbleBearcat it’s similar to the accord hybrid and Crv hybrid from 2019-2022 and it’s similar to this civic but the insight has less horsepower than the new civic and the new accord and Crv. Same kind of hybrid system with the e-cvt and the electric motor driving the wheels. The insight is not a race car but if you need to overtake or get somewhere quick you sure can. I love it
Honda should've kept the Insight production until the arrival of the Civic hybrid. There was a 2 year slack when Honda discontinued the production on insight.
@@HumbleBearcat I agree, the insight didn’t get enough love, I have feeling it might come back out though. I don’t know know why they got rid of the clarity and redesign it
The HRV desperately needs this engine!
@@ms.b9093I heard HRV is dangerously slow lol is that true?
@@Outlawz1971yes
It’s available in Europe (ZR-V). I predict it will come to the US when the HR-V gets its mid cycle refresh.
it's available in europe, australia and asia. i own a zr-v e:hev (hr-v in the states) in australia. it rides and handles brilliantly, better than the corolla cross imo. it is also very efficient, i am achieving 4.3l/100km.
The 2026 HRV is going to come available with the hybrid
I hope this pushes Toyota to bring the corolla hatchback hybrid to the states in the next corolla refresh/redesign!
I don’t see that happening as that will interfere with Prius sales. Keep in mind Prius and Corolla are nearly the same car (TNGA-C).
@@michaelnash2972 Yes, but the Prius is a goofy car as ever. I want to drive a car, not a statement about hybrid design.
@@aluisious Prius is definitely polarizing but it’s on the same platform as Corolla (TNGA-C) and it would be close in price to a Corolla hatchback hybrid. Prius accomplishes the same task.
Beautiful car. If I were to own a civic it would certainly be the hatch.
What keeps me from wanting to actually buy one is the fact that dealers are charging nearly 33k (not including markups) on a vehicle that doesn’t offer lumbar support, rear AC vents or USB ports. What’s up with those wheels? They’re beautiful, don’t get me wrong… but 18-inchers when there’s no spare tire offered? I can see these being poor victims to potholes and rough roads. Cmon Honda!
@@zachylec is there still markups? 6 month ago I was shopping for Rav4 hybrid, found one $1500 below msrp. Yeah they installed options for 1800 I don’t need, so I walked away
I agree 100% that Honda should have offered a trim with 17" wheels. I have the Accord EX-L hybrid and get over 50 mpg in the summer months with 17's. No other hybrid Accord can get to 50 with 19" wheels.
What I tuned in for Kirk was to see your comments comparing this to the Accord hybrid. All I heard were comments comparing it to the Camry or to the Corolla. How would you compare this civic hybrid to the Accord hybrid in the areas of smoothness, quiet, and driving enjoyment? Did I miss it? If so, could someone please tell me where in the video I can find it. Thanks!
Imagine this tech applied for Acuras...
This hybrid setup mores sense for the Integra than the CVT
@@wyw201it would sell so well if they didn’t make it cost too much (they would)
Unfortunatly not available in the Netherlands, would be far to expensive......Honda has almost no sales and is an expensive niche in the market. Always loved the engineering of Honda as well as the superb build quality
@@avdp9095 can you buy it where it's cheaper and ship it in? I'm my home country people often import the car they want or ship a car there with them as they return home to live or to live hybrid (there enough that rental cars are a waste, but some months abroad as well).
@@MontegoBayTechTalk Shipping and importing cars could make the price 2x 3x higher, due to taxes and levies subject to different countries' regulations. For my country, it is roughly 3x the price.
Who cares
I ordered a Prius LE that's coming next month. Even though I really like the Civic, but it doesn't have smaller 17" tires and also a place to put in a spare tire & tool kit like the Prius does, so I am keeping that Prius. I also like that the Prius is made in Japan.
You cannot go wrong with a Toyota Hybrid.
There's no lumbar adjustment! Inexcusable and a deal-breaker
No spare tire and rear vent also
Fix your back. Not Hondas problem
Americans are fat.
Can't wait for the week long test. Have to say I'm bummed that there's no options for a heated steering wheel or ventilated seats though. I live in an area that gets quite cold and I've never felt I needed heated seats, if it's cold out I'm already bundled up. But every time I get into a cold car I hate either waiting for the vents to warm up the steering wheel so I can touch it with my bare hands or having to put on gloves for the first few minutes of driving. Similarly I hate it when my back gets sweaty on long drives despite the cabin being set to 72F.
Remote start it and heat it up first?
Sadly you'll lose a lot of the hybrids efficiency in the cold.
agree lack of heated steering sucks especially since 2 of the 3 civic hybrid hatch trims sold in Canada (and built at the same US factory) include a heated steering wheel as standard equipment
@@KirkKreifels ICE only engines aren’t as efficient in the cold either
the older I get the more I need ventilated seats. Even in the winter it would be nice to have ventilation to toggle on /off.
I hope that some day we'll have the ability to add our own audible pedestrian alerts. Mine would be the "Hot for Teacher" drum intro looped.
A disadvantage of this is that not only does it not have a spare tire, unlike the sedan version, there physically isn’t enough space under the cargo floor to add your own compact spare tire.
Put it in your trunk?
What is their reasoning for selling a car with no spare?
@@MontegoBayTechTalk What trunk? It’s a hatchback. The cargo floor behind the rear seat it shorter on the hatchback than on the sedan. So, the space under the floor is physically too small to fit a spare tire.
On the sedan, there is room for a spare tire under the trunk floor, but Honda elected to not provide a spare tire primarily to cut costs.
If you ask them, they will say not providing a spare makes for a greener planet and you can just call a tow truck if you need a new tire in the middle of a road trip.
The problem with roadside assistance is that they won’t have a tire on their truck either. So, they can only tow you to the dealer that will sell you a very overpriced replacement tire if they are even open at the time.
You can have AAA tow you to an independent tire shop, but they may also be closed at the time you need them or may be out of stock in your tire size. So, plan on adding a few days in a motel during your holiday weekend road trip.
@@Tractshun that is very bootleg to cut corners in such a nickel and diming way.
@@MontegoBayTechTalk Save weight and cost I guess..
I don't know if anyone else has told you but in sports mode, the regen stays on the setting you choose.
I know that sand color is controversial but I think that’s the one I would get😅
Crazy that out of the eight colors available, four of them, including Sand Dune Pearl, cost $455 extra
That color will look sick with black wheels and window tint
Yeah, sick like baby vomit
Black wheels are a $1,600 option, something I good happily live without. The standard wheels are far nicer.
@@27degrees they’re nice, but I love the contrast with black and a rugged color like this. Makes it look badass. I’d just get used sport wheels probably
Yes, that color does look really SICK, I mean ugly!!
I drove a civic hybrid touring a few days ago. It's quieter, more torque compared to Corolla or Elantra. Goes up hill without engine straining even on an empty battery, while Elantra would just keep downshiftinh between 5th and 6th gear all the way up hill. the new civic hybrid is just a better driving experience overall when compared to the competition, with very slight MPG hit.
I bought the Sport Touring Hybrid Sedan. The Elantra can get better gas mileage but at a 60 HP deficit and given the experience one of my neighbors had with his Tucson Hybrid he wasn’t averaging near EPA estimates.
It's a shame that the 2025 model year car doesn't have any rear USB-Cs. I don't understand why Honda didn't include them when all of their competitors do. Also, the HR-V doesn't have a rear armrest or cupholders, which is simply ridiculous.
And, seriously, we need rear air vents!
@@eleanormassaro5195 I'm glad I don't...
Or vents.
The costcutting is extreme
Or power liftgate
Uk and canada has them
32k + dealership markups with no rear usbc or vents. Thanks Honda 👍
You need to find the right dealer. I paid under MSRP for my Sport Touring Hybrid Sedan
@@michaelnash2972what’s the OTD price? And how much did they took off the msrp?
Only a fool pays markup for a Civic.
And with no spare...IMO, Hondas have always been pricey as compared to the competition.
So I own a 2024 Civic hatchback sport automatic I use to comute to work. I comute around 20k miles a year. I am currently getting around 35mpg. Coming up on 20k miles, and I am completely sold on the 11th gen Civic, but I want more. What I want is a Civic SI hybrid, 6 speed manual getting 50 mpg, and all wheel drive for 35k $. Honda can do it.
I live in Nashville and love the idea of an SI but you won’t catch me rowing my own gears in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour that it takes to get home from work. 😂
I would rather drive manual and row the gears than be on the highway and not have to row it. That's what the stick is for...well the right hand and the left foot. Gotta keep the feet busy too
@@jamesmedina2062I could never.. after work I’m zone out.
This is not my first color choice, but I do like it. I would like it better if they had an interior color to go with it. I am tired of black and grey. Your beard is looking good.
Kirk thanks for your video. Does this hybrid have a serpentine or accessory drive belt on the engine? I believe new Toyota hybrids don’t.
There's no alternator or starter. That's all handled by the smaller motor and battery. No serpentine belt here. The simplicity is beautiful. It's different than Toyota hybrids, but share in the simplicity.
Now if Honda would just come out with a Hybrid powertrain for the Large Platform vehicles. This only has like 30ft-lbs less torque than a Honda Ridgeline.
Honda could've swapped out the 2L with the former 2.4L ICE and maybe a bigger electric engine as well for their minivans, truck and big SUV.
I was literally looking for a video about the civic hatchback yesterday but couldn’t find anything. Perfect timing!
You weren’t looking that hard. I’ve seen over 10.
Today I was able to test drive the 2025 Civic hatchback hybrid, sport touring version. There is a lot to like about the car. I sat in the rear seat and had decent amount of leg room. During the test drive I punched the accelerator and the car really took off.
Nice acceleration and power. Of course no spare tire. But that's becoming normal on hybrids. The cargo compartment has lots of space, much more than the Civic sedan. Fold down the rear seats and it almost has the same room as a small SUV. The window sticker has a price of around $34k. I noticed the sticker didn't show the usual dealer add-ons, such as paint and door protection, anti-theft, and other things that most people don't want. I was ready to buy, but while in the sales office I found out that the car is not for sale. Honda sent it to the dealer as a demo. It can't be sold for 90 days. That's a bummer.
Had to give you a sub. I love your reviews.
Who is telling these manufacturers to use this color? It’s on the new X3, it’s on the new Civic Hatch, it’s on the new iPhone. There is some customer data corporates that consults with manufacturers about customer color schemes.
I'm picking up a Blue Sport Touring Hybrid next week. Thanks for the review. I wish I understood the regen paddles but I don't.
You will learn the paddles quickly once you start using them. We just purchased a Civic because we love our Accord hybrid so much. The more you use the paddles correctly the better the fuel economy is! It became a game between me and my son of who could get better mileage.
Did you get it under MSRP? If so, how much less?
Love that new color! Love the hatchback. My next car! Thanks, Kris.
It is not a fun discussion. Its actually a huge headache that the hybrid has a quieter cabin and obviously the MPG over the manual trans of the SI. How the hell am I supposed to choose between the two? I love the interior/exterior look of the SI and love driving manual cars, but the hybrid in hatchback makes so much sense. Somebody make it make sense.
Hybrid manual would be best 😅
@@notoriushib I think Honda Insight first hybrid was manual with over 70 mpg
@@agpawpaw5912 legendary car. one of those rare cars that make you really ponder if the auto industry has been holding out on us on purpose.
simple you get the si. why? because after you finance for 38k dollars you're going to want a manual based on what you wrote.
@@duaneafields is that what its going to cost me? I guess I'll stick with my old beater.
To those shocked by the price, it’s nothing new. During the previous iterations of Civic Hybrid (7th-9th gen), the hybrid has always been thousands of dollars more expensive than the gasoline counterparts. In fact, it was even more expensive than the SI during the 9th gen
It’s more expensive than the Si now. It’s why Civic hybrids died out. We’re surprised Honda didn’t learn.
@@afcgeo882 it died out because the older versions made lower horsepower than the base and it was not as practical as other civics. But this time, Honda justified the higher price because it is more powerful than the Si and cargo practicality has not been sacrificed
@@Blank00 I’m not sure that compact car buyers will care.
Such a lovely color. 😍
I believe Toyota will phase out the 1.8 hybrid powertrain in favor of the 2.0 like the one in the Prius & Cross hybrid. They just did that on the Lexus UX for 2025. When they put that Prius powertrain in the Corolla without adding too much price then it will become a pretty good buy especially if you just get the low trim LE. I hope the Prius powertrain also finds home in the Corolla hatchback and also make it bigger.
Great video!! Love the color!! 😎
How do the hybrid compare to the Si in fuel economy (mpg) ? In terms of overall handling?you prefer the hybrid or the si? Why?
which was more fun to drive this or the camry hybrid?
I'm old school....Started driving commercial vehicles in 1980. GPS? Finally adopted it in 2015, but I have to have the map setting "north up" otherwise I find it disorienting. Adaptive cruise control? No thank you! The one setting I applaud is the regen braking turning off after each use. What's always been missing in the big rigs is the "jake brake" having to manually turn it off once set. Forgetting to turn it off and starting from a stop interferes with the manual shifting and acceleration. That said, my ex-wife's brand new (2000 miles) HR-V was destroyed in the path of Hurricane Helene. I've been recommending she replace the HR-V with this Civic Hatchback Hybrid. For me personally, I would pick the Civic Type R! (or Integra Type S) Forget the Hybrid and Si, fuel mileage be damned. As a former EVO owner, I'll go for performance any day. RIP Mitsubishi EVO.
This or the Camry LE hybrid?
That's the real question.
Camry le for about the same price unless you want the smaller car.
Civic looks and drives better.
Test drove the camery hybrid and the civic sedan hybrid sport touring. Hands down way better of a driving experience in the Honda.
@@matthewfink490 could you go into the detail? What was better about the driving experience specifically with the civic? It’s to my consensus that the civic will handle better and is quicker but has the rougher suspension, louder on the interior, smaller, and has worse mpg in real world scenarios? Also something I felt when I sat in the regular 2024 civic sport touring hatchback and sedan variants compared to the 2024 Camry XSE (v6 and I4 variants) is that the Camry just feels so much more solid.
I pick the Sport Touring Hybrid. Fuel economy matters, and if I get an SI my wife would divorce me. She wants a car that she can drive too.
Prius or Civic hybrid in performance and design? Audio system? Overalll quality?which has better handling?which feels more premium?
I dislike when bigger wheels are standard which should be optional. Also no spare tire is a no buy. The Sport Hybrid is Camry LE money.
Camry is too big and no hatch. Civic has better design and has better handling.
I was thinking the same exact thing! Rubber band tires are problematic-very easy to damage the rim, a much stiffer ride, less efficient. And no spare. I don't know what Honda is thinking. No way I would drive around without a spare. I can change a wheel in 15 minutes and be on my way with a spare, as opposed to waiting for god knows how long for a tow truck and going through that hassle. No way!
most car companies are forgoing the spare tire to drop weight & save money, not just a Honda move
@@zabbyzooby Yup, so none of them will get my money.
@@wholeNwon okay lol
This hybrid I would buy
How does the feel of the hybrid compare power wise to the SI? I'm looking at both, but prefer to shift. The hybrid looks like a compelling option though for a great daily!
It looks like this car is for me when you said “look at that Cherokee on the side of the road”. I just got mine back from the dealer that took a month to fix. 😂
Overall package: would this be a better value and driving experience over the Camry? Bc the Camry seems to be a great value and you get a proven drive train.
You can’t go wrong with either, even though the Camry is proven, with the civic you’re still buying a Honda. So you won’t have any issues. If you need awd get the Camry. I live in upstate New York and we get a lot of snow, I’ve always had front wheel drive with blizzak snow tires. I’ve never had an issue. I’ll be trading in my 2017 in a couple months for this. I’d pick the civic because it’s smaller and more nimble but still is decent size, for me.
@@ZACH_95_ it's funny you mention the size. I had a 2015 Camry and I always felt it was the perfect size for a sedan. The new platform is a bit too long for my liking. Still a great looking vehicle tho.
Can you also make a video on the entry Hybrid Hatch trim, the Sport?
We'll see! Might have to work with a local dealer for that.
I can't wait to see the new Prelude. I hope they knock it out of the park.
New Prius is a class leading compact car 👑🤴👑 and so called RIP is nonsense. New civic is excellent compact car and this hybrid version is brilliant. New Prius and civic are the top two best in its segment without a question.❤
Itll lock in regen braking if you hold the paddle. Also in sport mode if it's like the accord hybrid.
No, Civic reportedly doesn’t do this. Have to be in Sport mode to hold the regen setting.
After owning the sedan for a month and learning how it functions have come to the conclusion that a tachometer would make no sense and be of no purposeful use. It would be nice to maybe have a coolant temperature display though. After 3k miles my overall Trip B avg is 49.7 mpg.
I test drove the Sedan Sport and it did not come with a coolant temperature which is odd. I don't believe there is a tachometer, it's a hybrid powertrain meter.
So glad my commute is only 8 miles from home to work so I don’t care about mileage I care more about performance lol. Now a 350hp type R i would be all about it :)
Great review! Guess I am "old school" as I wouldn't call this sand dune pearl but unattractive camouflage.
Wonder if Kirk gonna do comparison MPG tests again between new civic hybrid, prius, and elantra hybrid. Curious who is gonna be new MPG king for compact sedan.
I’d definitely appreciate Honda implementing a hybrid in the standard models. The 1.5 Hybrid found in the Fit Hybrid and last generation Insight would make a lot of sense on the LX and Sport and compete with the Corolla and Elantra vs this powertrain which competes with the Camry and Sonata.
Thanks! Any news on an HR-V hybrid or Acura version of the HR-V? I have two of the original and would like to upgrade my '16 to a newer model. Liking the slightly larger Civic platform model.
HR-V Hybrid I’m predicting that it will come once Honda does its mid cycle refresh. It’s sold overseas as the ZR-V e:HEV. As for a Hybrid Integra, Just Pray lol. I think Acura would be silly not to put this powertrain in the non-manual Integra’s. Keep the 1.5 Turbo for the Manual Intgegras.
Thanks for the donation! ☺️
ADX for Acura will be revealed this year yet. Should be the same 1.5t & CVT from Integra.
HR-V hybrid has to come next year if Honda wants to keep their momentum with that model.
In the European and JDM market the Civic comes with rear vents and USB's
There are HVAC ducts under the front seats for airflow to the rear.
The rear vents on the previous gen Civic were hidden under the front seats and they were completely useless
I wish they would bring the Honda E to the US markets
I just don't understand why rear AC vents aren't standard on every vehicle manufactured. It doesn't even cost that much to add it. At this point they should make the usb ports standard also.
Been saying this for years .
Man I really don’t care about rear AC vents. Everyone complains about it, but I rarely have passengers. Civic in general is not the best multi-passenger car anyway.
Dude relax rear passenger is only 2 feet behind you they will still get AC air from the front vents.
There are vents under the front seats
route one vent to the hybrid battery and make it last longer..
Are the seats perforated at least? Its a bit hard to see sometimes on video. Thanks!
This vs. the KIA Niro EX Touring?
Exterior colors not attractive. Long length and width seem big. What’s the advantage of the hatchback vs sedan?
as 2 times prius owner would you mind putting weight compared to other hybrids thanks for your videos
Moooore hybrids!
Kirk, why did Honda remove the fog lights and the integrated dual exhaust tips on the new Civic and the Accord?
Wow I’m in for one thanks for sharing 😊
I can't see anyone getting near toyota for pure hybrids, I have their 5th generation hybrid on my toyota Corolla touring sports and it is excellent, so smooth, engine noise suppressed very well very reliable and very efficient getting 70 mpg UK
Anybody who thinks this hasn't seriously considered the Honda hybrids. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your opinion of the Toyota, just that a Honda is as good, or better, in every way.
I'm just disappointed Toyota didn't put the 5th gen hybrid system in the toyota crown/crown signia.
Anyone know if you can add direct tire pressure sensors to a Honda? I think it is weird they do not include them.
Youre wearing a jacket and its 90 degrees! Cooler than FL I guess:)
ALL Europe features are gone! Is it too much to have dual rear pockets, vents, USB, front lumbar, and pano roof in America? Sadly, Honda thinks so.....
I'm super excited for this car.
I absolutely hate this color and have no idea how it got approved to go on a civic.
If they wanted an outdoorsy rugged color they should have oicked a forest green. That brown only belongs on trucks.
I'm bummed about no rear vents or USBCs, but I don't really carry people in the back too often.
I want gas mileage and a hatchback so I can carry stuff. I have plenty of project cars so I don't need an SI.
So sport touring hybrid for the win for me.
Honda often offers an outlier color for just one year.
@@kenhoward3512 I definitely seem Toyota do this but can't point my finger on a Honda that is done it. I'd love to know more. Can you give me some examples?
For me if I'm being honest I'm looking at this car but the boost blue is just too much of an extreme color for a daily. I was hoping for something subtle but still pretty like the blue lagoon Pearl. Then we're hit with this disgusting brown.
I guess urban gray pearl it is. With it, no light grey interior. Yuck. Lol
Hey Kirk I wonder if with your little secrets and tips you can squeeze better efficiency out of this than Prius, especially considering the wheel and tire discrepancies on the two.
Will you be doing a Prius vs. Civic Hatch review soon?
Thoughts on this coming from a VW Golf? I'm looking for a new commuter to replace it in the next year or two.
I came to a Sport Touring Hybrid from a Passat and Honda did a fantastic job. I would definitely recommend the Civic and it’s also not going to cost you a bloody fortune to maintain (thats before even considering the negative maintenance the Hybrid system brings to the table). VW’s even the old reliable 2.5 I5 will always have a minor problem that can basically torpedo the engine.
Between this and the new Camry, which one has the better fun factor driving experience?
The civic for sure - it’s quicker and has better handling
Civic and there’s not even a comparison. I drove both and bought the Civic.
@@michaelnash2972 Which Camry version did you drive?
@@HumbleBearcat AWD SE and FWD XLE
Hey Kirk any chance you can tell me what you use to hold your go pro in the middle of the car to get those driving shots?
Just a suction mount. Delkin is the brand iirc
@@KirkKreifels Thank you
I think they’re trying to recoup their costs on the hybrid r and d. I bet they will offer in all models soon.
The Camry is the more attractive buy since the two are basically at the same price point.
Complete different story man, I was think the camry too but between the Se and LE camry and the civic touring with more features I get the civic😂
The Camry is too big!! Old man car!
Yeah but it’s bigger, boatier, and has less features if you’re paying the same price (SE trim). Biggest deal breaker for me is the base level sound system in the SE camry, whereas the civic touring hybrid has the Bose, which isn’t great, but it’s decent.
@@SIIKAP1Today I learned that there are people who would actually pick a Civic over a Camry at the same price point because of the stereo. The future is bright 👍
But no hatch.
I really like this updated hybrid hatch a lot more than i'd expected I would. Not really sure about the Sand Dune pearl color. I'd love the Lagoon Blue on this, that's available on the sedan.
Does this have the same sound deadening built in like the sedan?
That 18 wheels never will beat Prius fuel consumption with 15” wheels. Hope that 55 mpg is real. I downgraded my 4th gen Prius touring wheels from 17” to 15” (same outer diameter), 65-68 mpg real all summer, on dashboard 70-74 mpg. Toyota is optimistic 6%. Looks like Civic has bigger cargo, which is big plus
I wonder which Hybrid system is more reliable?
(vs Toyota)
How did you figure out which tires to get that would be compatible with your car? I want to upgrade my car but all the ones i'm looking at have 19s and I want to downgrade them to 17.
@@destroyerofsimps6574 unfortunately you will need 17” rims. This 2” you will compensate by higher profile tires in order to have same outer diameter and that tires will be narrower. For me was easy, because touring model has 17”, but base is 15”, so I swapped with other Prius.
I'm ready to trade in my accord. I've moved from civic to acura to accord. I'd really like an AWD hybrid but sadly I'll probably go Toyota this time as I can't seem to find a Honda that gives me the right combination of features and price. Too bad Honda is still working with Bose (the finest sounding dixie cups on the market).
Hope you can do a review of the civic hatchback sport hybrid when you get one to test at home. I'm considering that, or the Camry LE/SE. Thank you
I drove a 2025 Camry SE and a 2025 Civic Hybrid Sedan. I much prefer the Civic due to the driving dynamic and the fit and finish of the cabin. The Civic will give you a sportier drive (it's lighter and has a lot of torque) and I just overall preferred the steering and suspension of the Civic. The Camry still feels like a Toyota with the more economical feeling interior. Button feedback on the Civic is just much nicer.
@@rockyelbrodiI agree completely. I also think the microfiber on the XLE looks terrible. I ended up buying the Civic Sport Touring Hybrid. I absolutely love it and currently averaging over EPA.
@@michaelnash2972 Congrats on the new car brother, it's definitely a great buy.
16:39 totally agree 💯 cars are getting more and more expensive and a lot of people is looking for affordable car and fuel efficient
that new color fits with the sad beige mom aesthetic…
Is it true that the sport hybrid hatch does not come with a leather wrapped steering wheel?
Honda needs to put rear vents and usb outlets in the back. I couldn’t buy this because my kids need these for road trips and I’m not going to have 10ft cables running to the backseat come on Honda
Same price in Canada as the Camry hybrid. Too expensive.
Honda pricing in Canada is out of whack lately
I would buy this car if it had a 360 camera system and a larger infotainment screen. It's expensive compared to it's competitors so it should have those items. I love Honda so I hope they make a few improvements. I'm not a fan of the new front end. The pre-refresh was much more attractive.
In Japan you can get fog lights as an option, but of course America doesn't get it. 🙄
you honestly don’t need them
From the rear it reminds me of an older model Saab.
I like the look of the sedan but the practicality of the hatchback.
If they added an AWD variant, this would be the end game entry level do it all hybrid
And spare tire…