Fixing World of Warcraft
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มี.ค. 2020
- World of Warcraft is in a low right now. Criticism is all well and good, but in this video I've compiled a list of suggestions I think would improve the game overall.
If you have any suggestions, requests, or just general feedback let me know in the comments or with a message. I try my best to answer or at least read as many as I can.
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"I can't wait to play my mage after I'm done with chores!"
*logs on*
"Oh."
"Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts"
Love it.
+300 to Fart Crit
I approve of this
i actually try to find that item on wowhead =(
My wife has these bracers. I've tried everything to get her to equip something else, to no avail. Please send help.
@@ricardolionheart4920 Embrace your lady's farts! It means she cares about you, because she doesn't do it around anyone else.
LFR: Jim Arm Thing of Smell Bad
Normal: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts
Heroic: Sir Jimmothy's Wristguards of Intolerable Gassery
Mythic: Lord Jimmington III's Wrist Barriers of Utterly Insufferable Flatulence
lmao xD
meanwhile in classic, using examples:
Broken zombie arm(grey low level weapon)
Sharp Dirk (low level common)
Heavy Mace (low level green)
Cool Kid's Sword of awesome(low level blue)
Battered Steel Blade(mid level gray)
Razor Blade (mid level common)
Chad's Axe of Stamina (mid level green)
Truesteel Hammer (mid level blue)
Fate (mid level epic)
Shattered Flail (high level grey)
Sharp Steel Axe (high level white)
Redwood Bow (high level green)
Volutuar (high level blue)
Shala'render (high level epic)
Vain, The Hammer of Judgement (high level legendary)
Grievance, The Greatstaff of The Priestlord
(high level legendary)
10/10
Retail: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts (Assforged). +180 Strength, +120 Stamina, +80 Gas, +100 Smell
Classic: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts. +20 Strength, +12 Agility. Equip: Chance on hit to let rip, dealing 180 nature damage and disorienting for 1 second.
If only. They don't change the name, even. It's just gets more numbery. I prefer classic system where you can learn the name of the item you want, it sounds cool and it matters. Maybe toned down a bit so you can have second and third options for every slot that are weaker but still viable.
"You don't need daily busywork to keep people playing. You need a well designed and rewarding MMO to keep people playing"
THIS. RIGHT. HERE. Someone please make modern game developers understand this. I'm tired of the mobile-game-like treadmill every major online game has turned into lately.
That's the entire problem though. None of that "daily busywork" is even necessary. It doesn't preclude you from participating in end-game content.
@@cstgraphpads2091 Go level a character to 120, and now skip all of that daily busywork and see if a guild will take you along in their raid, (hint hint, they won't). you will be sub 300 ilvl with a level 2 or 3 neck and no azerite or essences. You won't have flying, and you won't be able to get into raids or mythic dungeons. Now you have to grind out that crappy content to even start playing the end game content.
The sad true is inbetween people will stop playing that just how it is. No game has perfect player retention but blizzard can do way better.
@@bitbraindev Dark souls does have quests with big pay offs. Heck using the most popular one DS3 as an example you'd need to do one of 2 quests to get 3 out of the 4 possible endings to the game.
We fought the casual market tooth and nail. But now that the casual gamers have been conquered they to are the veterans. And they see what has been taken.
Accessibility and engagement. Braindead mechanics. Streamlining. Stat overhauls.
Game wasn't broken, but they fixed it for sure.
"Make loot interesting again"
Actiblizzard: So you mean add 10 more layers of EXCITING RNG and unessecary complexity, right?!!!
wtf you talking bout vanilla
@@92Dast in vanilla, you can decide you want a piece and then go dark that piece. In bfa, that is way harder. M+ drops like 1-2 pieces per dungeon.
@@PhenomRom Yet the gearing is still effectively the same, RNG or not. Does this piece have more +good on it? Yes? Then I'll take it.
@@cstgraphpads2091 rng will all way be there that not the problem never was more then one layer or rng is
i mean classic
what drops it and what it drop chances
live
same as classic but it can get 2 to 4 different rolls of better
which mean ya end up all way wanting more and never feel like ya won and at some point ya stop trying and stop playing me and 90% of us who used 2 play wow feel this
Its there way of trying to get you to play the game longer by having to get the stars to align to get the right gear you want. Its stupid and fucked up. Shadowlands better fix this or I'm done. The expansion already looks underwhelming and recycled... So I dont have high hopes. Espcially since the story used to keep me playing if the game wasnt so good. But now it's trash, doesnt make sense, and is targeted for people with low IQs
At this point... I’m pretty sure it’s just the art team that has any passion for Blizzard and WoW
It's always the art teams that shine because these lazy companies think thats all they need. They think were alll idiots and only care for petty things
And music
@@lierofjeld5051 music is art....
@@Mati-mk5wd true
they suck since draenor came out
worst item design, zone design, everything
millions of polygons in totally fake design, with shitty colors. looks like some zoomer interns art.
as much as i hate pandas and pet battles etc, pandaria had beautiful memorable landscapes and architecture.
beautiful, madeseason *sobs*
thank you.
Also bring back pvp vendors and pvp gear
Happening
Powerball: Madseason you just won 100 million. How do you feel?
Madseason: I'm alright
I see.
yeah it's hard to watch his videos
he needs to hire some e-girl
I love that he's like that, can't stand the TH-camrs that are loud and obnoxious
@@weatherman2045 same
BRE Drops. Madseason: OK
This started off as a wishlist for Shadowlands(alpha soon it seems?). I think that these changes would be good in general though, regardless of the expansion! As always, my $0.02.
What happend to ur voice?
@@tigerisak9037 ChadSeason Happened
@@mt.averest9750 oh he is mad like a chad like wadd and dat is facts
wow retail is a job with no rewards
"So if there's no want for them, and you claim there's no need for them, may I ask why they exist?" Easily my favorite wow youtube channel/creator.
To hell with Dailys. My gaming time shouldn't feel like a second job.
i actually fucking hate dailys. im fine with world quests and assaults. but having to do the same shit for 2 months straight everyday non stop on 3 different toons is actual hell. such a waste of time and provides no context or entertainment to the game. fuck dailys
@Not My real name um.. theres no option really..? dailies = coalacent visions= vape upgrade = stat upgrade + corruption upgrade and also exalted rep which gives a rune, and dailis also unlock essences and mounts and transmog and achieves. o boy.
@Not My real name dumbass
Its 7 dailies that barely take any time to do...
Word
when you reach a point where the players take it into their own hands to make detailed videos on how to fix the game, u know something is up
When Blizzard is ready to revamp retail, I hope the main raid will consist of finally killing Sylvanas as a Raid boss. That would be a strait up spiritual experience for most players.
Yeah, kinda like dc did with jason todd
Bro I nut from the thought of killing sylvannas. Fucking king anduin had so many chance but noo we have to put her in prison
I hope she doesnt die and becomes a recurring villian for while before we take the bitch out. I see some potentially good content
@@highpower1191 bruh she's gonna be the main villain for 2 expansions now. She had a fuck ton of plot armor. Anduin had atleast a million tjens to kill her
stwong woman bad :(
"Every. Single. Piece."
cut of death
@@Joekary5 Azshara Razorcoral, Azshara font of Power. Physic shredder.
Cut of Death, mechagon If Then rings & fire mage bracers, fist weapon from underrot, staff from temple, all the corrupted weapons in ny'alotha, but let's not let those get in the way of his point about how interesting int and str on the same piece of gear are in classic.
@@mdokane Yeah he really missed the mark on that one. Gettiku is BiS for any class that can use 2Handers, the cloth braces are super BiS for fire mages, the if-thens are BiS for different classes depending on which combination, etc. Hell this is closest to Vanilla item design than it ever was in an expansion, if I'm not mistaken.
@@powerovercorrupt I can see what you're saying about end game gear, in the last tier of the expansion, but even so the gear treadmill has increased its' incline by1000% or more since Pandaria or Warlords. In those expansions there was a hard "BIS" for almost every gear slot (usually tier pieces) and while that rotated with each new raid tier you at least knew when you had reached peak gearing. The point Mads is trying to make is that while there is a mind-numbing number of potential activities available to pursue "advancement", almost all the gear available is 1000 versions of the same thing. Sure there are a few exceptions out there if you really know where to look and want to put in the effort to focus on that content, but layering RNG on top of RNG to try to get an upgrade to already pretty good gear means that almost nothing is ever going to give a sense of satisfaction or accomplishment. No gear stands out because almost all gear is the same-smelling rose but by a plethora of names.
At the end of the day though, gearing is only one of the problems facing the game going forward. Too much of BfA felt like the busywork of making valentines holders for your desk in elementary school (or most other kids holiday craft projects - hand-tracing turkeys, egg carton Christmas trees, etc.). Sure it keeps you busy enough to prevent total boredom, but "not being bored" is not the same thing as actually having fun. Minesweeper or Solitaire can keep you "not bored" but after a while the repetition is mind-numbing, and that's what BfA feels like to me at this point. Before 8.3 the variety of playing my 3 different main classes (Paladin, Mage & DK) kept me going, but the Cloak system added so many more "mandatory" grinds that I just couldn't force myself to do it all multiplied by a factor of three.
I hope the Devs see this video! i have played for 12-14 years now but haven't had a solid sub for years now, just a few months here and there. looking forward to new content tho.
My last proper Retail raid was in Cata, I have played up to Legion, but then with raid finder
Have played since US Beta
Now I play Classic, doubt I'll ever play retail again, for the reasons in this video, its just the same shit over and over
@@dubious6718 Have played since late Wrath, and Legion was the most fun raiding experince i had. Antorus was insanely fun
agreed i have bouts of play time sometimes it revolves around a raid team which is fine but mostly like now im just on to finish some random goal i set myself (unlocking allied races at the moment) and then i stare at the game for a while turn it off and spend the next month playing other more fun games. Im 100% sure they have gotten a decent sum of money out of me because i was so bored i became to lazy to turn off the sub
Started playing in late vanilla. Raided pretty hardcore in BC, but enjoyed Wrath the most. Even WoD was more enjoyable than Legion&BFA (Mainly because the classes felt more like the classes I always played)
kluasVT Legion is the 2nd best expansion they’ve ever done imo right after Wrath. MoP was really good too even though people hated on it cause of pandas lol
I miss logging on any character I feel like playing, and then pvp cause it's what I enjoy, gaining new pvp gear from the rewards of pvp. Now I can't just do that, instead I have to grind AP and then reps to unlock essences and then again I should probably try to get good corruption gear plus level my cloak. But by the time I'm done doing that, on one character, I just couldn't be bothered, let alone the thought of doing it on another character.
they added account wide essences
@@zillux6461 They added a means to force everyone to grind for an already unlocked rank 3 essence, they deliberately went out of their way to add another grind to the game to herd people back when they could of just flicked a twitch and enable proper account-wide essences. Like it is better then nothing, but say if you haven't unlocked essences that healers or tanks can only gain then you have to do the grind of a healer or tank to gain them.
@@genericcomment3950 that's something I've thought also for a while now. takes me roughly an hour to do uldum/vale dailies + xpan dailies.
would be fun if I could just choose to do whatever I want without this constant feeling of missing out.
I'm a pvp guy, and im the saddest person ever coming back to this game and see how different and garbage it is now... imagine this, i just wanted to play arena with my friends, and instead, i got that crap that madseasonshow mentioned, and not only that, if i wanted to do arenas, or any other PVP I need to go to dungeon... I was like, Excuse me? IF i wanna go pvp i must gear from pve? Where is the logic in that? PVE and PVP is different for a reason, I dont want to do dungeons because its boring for me, why i have to do that if i wanted to play arenas and pvp. In the back days, if i was a pvp guy, i play pvp. And thats it folks. Not to mention how fcked up the situation with this corruption things in the pvp.... I think i will unsub from wow, at this moment PVP is unplayable
They killed pvp starting in MoP and just ground it into the dirt since... I used to pvp a lot but I haven't touched it in years because you have to do so much for any reward...
One of the things I remember best from classic is how travelling, while long, slow and tedious -was the thing that gave me the best memories.
You would have to be alert so that you didn't die from high lvl mobs, cause the graveyard could set you back 10 minutes easily. That part sucked, but it's a sacrifice I was willing to pay.
Since everyone was travelling on ground you had an increased odds of meeting friendly players. And when you're walking for maybe 30 minutes to the next zone, meeting someone and talking to them, having fun with them really lessened the torment of the journey. Those interactions made the game feel alive.
And then you also had an increased chance of meeting bad guys, especially in places like STV, or places for popular dungeons/raids.
This gave the game a feeling of being populated, interactive and dangerous.
Some people complain that "these high levels are ganking me and its ruining the game". But really, those were the fun parts. The parts where you ran for your life to escape death.. or where you banded together with other people to return the favor.
Like travelling to a dungeon for 30 minutes with your party gave you a chance to make friends. Sure, the bad parts happened where the tank DC'd or quit the group, and then the party disbanded because it would take an hour to get back there.
But rewards dont come without sacrifice.
Friends, community, interactions with other people. That's what made this game so great for me. That, and the feeling of getting the loot I wanted, after farming a boss for like a week.
coming across random players needing help is what i missed most.
@@zack4209 that was an experience I grew very fond of in classic. I would be getting fucked up and people would come and help me, it was amazing. Wed end up having the same quest and them work together. It was a great experience.
@@ChaiKarl sadly it’s a mechanic that online games have gotten rid of. Everyone’s a walking army now and it’s sad
@@zack4209 for real dude. I am disappointed by every game I play now because it lacks the teamwork and simplicity of shared effort for one goal.
Just bring back the Pvp system from MoP or WoD, where honor was a currency That you get simply From playing bgs (you didnt have to win to get Honor). So if you are pvp player you just had to Play bgs, get honor and Buy all blue items you could get, and when u are full equiped with honor equip you start to do Arenas or RBGs for conquest points to buy the epic sets and weapons. Its all i want for shadowlands. So you dont have to do endless pve content to get an alt equipped.
This is what got me hooked , I could play bgs like the doodoo player I am but eventually it made the PvP gear obtainable for me
Honor wasn't a currency for pvp in WoD, it was the honorable medallions. I agree tho, the pvp from MoP was easily the best with the honor and conquest as currency to actually buy gear and pvp resil/power on pieces of gear. Right now i feel like you have to do pve to do pvp properly or else you'll have no health no procs and no damage
@@superjive8282 I feel Cata did this PvP system better, mostly due to having Tol Barad.
yeah it was so amazing.. i hope these times will return someday.
fuck the busywork, atleast for pvp man.. no pvp guy in their right mind would ever like grind for an edge because the fun part is in getting that damn title so you can .. uhm.. brag about it on your date or sth
Huh. Well, seems like this turned out well for you.
I never thought there would come a day where i would leave my 12+ level 110 characters, vast amount of mounts, toys and transmog behind when we were in Legion, but god damn. Here we are. What i miss the most are the class orderhalls and the generally good questlines they came with
Its ok bro, do something better with your time.
Man, you're my favorite WoW youtuber. You're so genuine and honest and you somehow make a monotone voice sound fun and interesting to listen to. Keep this going, man. Power to you!
i agree. madseason is the shiz
"Every single piece"
Thats the most emotion i get from this guy.
Sometimes i wanna wake up in the 2008 again, dying to log in and level up my warrior in the new northrend zone. So pumped to reach 80 and start to gear up for naxxramas, that's a feeling this game's never gonna give me again. You really nailed the points about gear, gear in todays wow feels completely dull and has been for a couple of expansions now. I remember a time when i got so pissed cus i lost a 2H, or a trinket from the new raid. If i'd lose something today, i wouldn't even care because it's just a bunch of 1's and 0's. It's really sad when blizzard let go of what little that was left of it (tier sets) in BFA.
I loved Wotlk so much..
- Great economy, mining made my gold, and farming eternal fire's.
- Finally getting that Deathbringers Will, that always got ninjalooted was an awesome feeling, also Bryntroll 2h Axe.
- I knew I couldn't get into any raids on my new level 80 without going through Dungeons to farm BiS pre-raiding gear, then go for a tier 7 raid, farm it > Then tier 9 etc.
- Loved the token-upgrade. First I needed to get the T7 gloves, then upgrade those by adding a token from a higher difficulty to make the better version.
- Rare-mob grinding that resulted in mounts wad awesome.
- Wintergrasp, genious ❤
@@Alsund dude that is so nostalgic..It's sad that back then we had "less" daily/weekly things to keep track of, but we logged in and played all day long nonetheless. I could spend a whole night just mining titanium in wintergrasp, fighting against the bots flying under the map haha. I also miss the valor thingies u got from dungeons and raids that you could use to buy gear with. People who didn't play wow back in the day really missed out
Lefortunez private servers with WotLK now are very good.
I took 3 days off work then.
Now i want a "Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts" as a joke item made! XD
On Equip Effect: "Cause a brown wraith to appear periodically and cause people around you and ./fear"
That and a madseasonshow npc of somekind. He speaks in monotone.
"No bro i will never work in company im not some stupid wagie bruh"
*Proceeds to do 9hrs of dailys*
And you don't even get money for it, you're paying Blizzard instead..... I've been working in corporate for 12 years, and been playing WoW since Classic.
WoW used to be the game I came back to after a day's work, for relaxing and exploring and meeting random people to talk to or help on Quests. But now I'm literally afraid to Login because your entire map is assaulted by Markers and things to do. It feels worse and even more of a grind than an actual job (and I work in basically SW tech-support), it's never-ending.
I kid you not, I've started playing World of Warships instead, and even that thing doesn't feel as bad, even though it's the gaming equivalent of a pyramid scheme made by some Russians...
@Maintenance Renegade Yeah, that's another thing too. You mentioned the Fishing Pole, and I just remembered doing the Kalu'ak quests to obtain it back then. The Kalu'ak themselves were fun and even doing the dailies meant you were encouraged to ride between their settlements on the Turtles.
And at the end, the Fishing Pole was cool and let you breathe underwater, but it wasn't like it was absolutely needed to play the game...
It was just something fun. Unlike now where you have to do dailies in Nazj'atar or Mechagon just to unlock Flying. It's the only reason I still force myself to play, and even then, when I think why I'm doing it, it's to have less travel time between even more dailies.
What the hell, man :( .....
@Maintenance Renegade Honestly, Once Cata hit outside of the confusing story line (at least for me) it felt like they were starting to slip with the game kinda like having two hands hanging from a ledge. Then mist came and as much as I loved it thematically from the small bits of end game content of it I saw it seemed like they were subtly slipping in what made WoD so horrifying for a lot of players (mainly timeless isles and the token system is what I'm thinking of). WoD was the nail home that made the 1st hand slip off. Thankful Legion was good enough that the other held on as hard as it could. but with how much BfA feels like it was still in it's beta phase with all it's RNG and tweaking even now that hand is starting to slip. We can only hope Shadowlands will give it a better grip.
I can sleep a little easier after listening to this, as if I was just told some great story by an amazing narrator
Thanks, MadSeason. You give a voice to those of us who've loved this game since the old days and have sadly had to watch it fall to such a low point. I sincerely hope Blizzard is listening because every point you've raised is solid and agreed upon by the silent majority of past WoW players. If anyone disagrees, let me just point out that there is a reason millions of players came back to play classic whereas current WoW has under a million players rn (according to third parties).
Classic wow content gets cleared in 43 minutes lol. It is more of a joke than live outside of leveling.
@@elitebooger8208 That's not the point?
@@elitebooger8208 That's because the strategies being used in Classic have been perfected over 15 years by the people playing on Private Servers, not because the content is easy. In Classic pushing buttons mattered. Levelling mattered (and took time and skill). Positioning and pulling mattered. Gear mattered and was unique. Doing things often required other people, and finding (and befriending) those other people made the Massively Multiplayer part actually true (and made it matter).
If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, we aren't going to make you play it. On the other hand, simply dismissing Classic entirely just because a tiny subset of players (who have been essentially playing the same content non-stop for 15 years) have perfected the art of clearing Classic's Raids is not a fair examination of anything except your own bias.
@@elitebooger8208 Yet, joining a pug on your alt to do MC and being stuck in MC for 3-4 hours wiping on Domo or Rag happens too. Imagine wiping in LFR lol.
g O b aC K t O r E tA i L
@@mattdayne2585 dude I mythic raid and am 2k+. I would not struggle with mc because its a joke.
I would add make professions interesting and worth investing time in again.
Or find something to replace them with, honestly. I agree they have been largely useless for several expansions now, but mostly because the gear you can make is obsolete before you can even make it. So much gear drops, and so frequently, with World Quest rewards scaling based on your ilevel, that the only possible use is for enchanting materials.
This.
I just love love love love your intro. It's so charming and soothing. It feels like you're welcoming me to your home that's right next to a soft flowing river. And it complements your voice well. Cheers :)
At a glance I thought the Sylvanas in the thumbnail was Nixxiom's death knight so color me confused when your intro music plays when I thought I clicked on a Nixxiom vid.
i never realised how bland the itemisation was untill now lol every single piece literally the same
to be honest, it was always bland.
I mean, wow classic had some quirkier ones, but they were mostly ignored. Others had crappy stats, and it's easy tot ell which one is the most useful.
besides, BFA has lots of quirky items as well, and lots of decisions with it - it's only that it's not always something good - see corruptions.
@@TheRayny Why make more raids, when they can just make random/better stats on same item
@@dubious6718 because that's kinda the engine of the game? it's number crunch at its core.
I mean, i understand if you dislike it, but that't really it. The core loop of the game is new challenges -> more powerful items, and there's much you can do with special effect on gear.
Besides, when we talk about memorable gear we talk only about a couple of things really - have you ever seen a good pair of bracers, boots or what else that wasn't just stat stacking, even on vanilla? and that weren't absolute trash as well.
Oh wai,t i have some in mind now: legion legendaries and corrupted items. And while the second got different reactions about it, the first one was good, but also the first one if done again would end up being almost the carbon copy of the first generation with few additions.
I noticed the moment I tried a legion server and noticed my paladin only had haste mastery and crit (if i remember propperly) as possible stats, it felt...horrible, i went to check a tanking guide and it said haste...haste...for tank. So i tried demon hunter and altough it was fun, i eventually went back to private since no matter what i got it always felt so so weak, indifferent.
@@huultah you mean you preferredolder different stats?
That's a crude but effective look at stats - every class and spec has some to prioritarize ( save exceptions ) but they benefit from all of them for their role - crit chance increases parry for example, mastery for warriors increases block in protection.
That looks plain, but it's a huge step up from older stat versions - i mean, look at classic, as healer you have ONE stat to worry about which is healing power, and as a dps you have only hit chance/rating to worry outside the other stat to max out, save some crit shenanigans that can be managed out only by simming.
Tank stats like dodge, parry and block are ties to mastery and crit basically, they only differenc eis that the sape piece of gear can be useful to dps as well.
Plus, there is versatility.
That said yeah, i agree they aren't amazing. HAste specifically does too much.
I miss the magic Blizzard Entertainment games originally had.
Back when it was only Blizzard and not ActiBlizzard
It was probably because you were 15 years old. Games will never be as magic and amazing as they were when we were teenagers/children
@@santiagolago9989 nah ive been playing wotlk and BC private servers for almost a decade now, the game never gets old. the system was simple, addictive, rewarding and challenging. it is not nostalgia.
I was 12 and Diablo had just come out. I thought it was the coolest game. Then I played Starcraft & Vanilla ❤️ Best gaming memories😩
Yeah, back it used to be about making games fun for the player, now it's all /time played, and making 90% of content be daily chores. No new dungeon content and literally unless you play one or two of 100 dead alliance servers not named Stormrage you can't raid as alliance. People are forming 25000 population hyperclusters just to have people to play, while the non cross guild makes raiding dead on 95% of servers where even my top 5 alliance pop server now only has a single mythic raiding guild that has all 20/20 raiders and benched me despite a 90% parse because even though i was geared.. i wasn't unemployed as the other 10 coronavirus applicants were who could have a 90% raid attendance raid. Not to say it could see the point but it feels terrible when they refuse to put on mythic flex raiding caring about "INTEGRITY OF BALANCE" when they literally DESPAWNED THE FINAL BOSS of last world first race and killed bosses for the #2 guild so it wouldn't be 8/12 M Method after their 4th world first vs 12/12M Limit getting thirsty and pushing.
Who cares about the "INTEGRITY OF THE GAME" if the game design is purposely dead to 50% of the population with no population fix, or cross server grouping for alliance. World first races sacrifice game design with raiders who LITERALLY, LITERALLY use unemployment benefits to play are the catered target content. Don't have 25-30 hours a week to raid non stop? Where does 90% of new content development go. not on content the 90% plays. I get that ion was a raid lead, but the amount of focus that raids that barely anyone can actually physically play at mythic while m+ is neglected with no new dungeons is droll. I wish they'd have more dungeons or introduce new dungeons with Raid patches. Forget 12/12 raid bosses, 0 dungeons. I want 1-2 new dungeons a patch with new loot. Maybe a weekly 5 man challenge dungeon to double the loot in your weekly cache.
Preach the truth! I've been so overwhelmed trying to get back into current, I have signed on 5-6 diffrent times as of late, only to sign out 5-10min later, overwhelmed with the chores I would need to do, to get flying, better gear, allied races, even just to catch up with current content, I really hope this video catches blizzards eye, thank you for making this!
When it comes to gear out of all the gear in BFA The Mechagon bracers (Hyperthread Wristwraps), is by far the most interesting item. While you do get higher ilevel versions at higher levels it's primary point of value is the non-scalable activation ability.
The best part is that it's good for some classes and broken op for others, well just for Fire mage, which is why all workshop runs get swarmed by mages. That's the kind of gear I like to see more of, I want more people to be walking around with a single item that is 20+ ilevel lower than the rest of their gear but makes their class really work.
But for this to happen, they should get rid of the ilvl system, too much ppl rely on it. They don't look at your skills, they look at your ilvl and rio...
@@davidfarago1378 They would do that anyway... Before item level we just looked at spell power or hp. Any decent player is looking at logs or in the case of mythic+ runs.
Stupid people just look at ilvl but as a fire mage in 8.2. I was 432 ilvl and doing 48k in eternal palace. Item level means nothing and good players don't just go off it or io. They look at individual runs or logs.
If you under-geared good guilds look at your damage taken and parses for ilvl instead of just ilvl. If they're a semi decent guild anyway. Feeding people gear is easy once you've done mythic for x months. Anyone who is 50% done with mythic realizes this.
Can't watch the video, gotta do my 16 dailies (doesn't include old content farm)
Hay Madseasonshow I just wanted to say thank you for bringing entertainment because it really helped me through a tough time and I just wanted to say thank you.
Well, making them has gotten me through some tough times as well. It's my pleasure man! Glad they have helped you out that way.
I feel the same
thx
@@madseasonshow
Woah! You used a "!"
(Joking)
I just want to say that i LOVE your intro(itz soo chill)
You know a small, small, small part of me was like: "man, what if I did go back to Retail?" But instead of working on my warrior, work on my rogue - since I'm enjoying it on Classic. But as soon as I saw the daily list, and all the things that I would have to do to catch up, I literally said: "Fuck that."
I would rather make a new character from scratch on Classic (which I have, AND I'm enjoying it) than to come back to BFA on my already-existing 120 to try and catch up to be PvP/PvE ready.
There's so many things too do, in fact - TOO many things to do - in Retail. The sheer amount of stretched content is overwhelming. Classic has a set amount of content that I am more than comfortable with repeating over and over again. Because as simple or reduced as Classic content is, it's actually fun to do. I enjoy running Scholomance / Stratholome / BRD / Dire Maul (Less so, because I don't like the aesthetic but that's a personal gripe) multiple times. But, when I last played a dungeon in BFA, I was exhausted and bored before I even finished it.
Summed it up for me. They tried a make it friendly to the new or returning player, but to this long time returning player, i was turned off. Classic is fun, i log on and there's stuff i can do, because i want to do them. Not because i need to do a arbitrary task for a certain reward.
BfA just throws a bunch of dailies at you hoping one would stick.
@@Idontlikeanyoneanywhere Amen bro.
The only thing I enjoy about BFA is its gorgeous zones and beautiful music.
The art and music people always do a great job.
yep. the only good things about WoW.. even WoD has great music. i still listen tot he music of wow.
ye, imo lvling is pretty good in bfa, I personally love drustvar
@@CosmicCleric and that's may be because Samwise Didier is a senior art director at Blizzard Entertainment. Sadly he's the only one left of the good old "core" Blizzard staff.
Let's think about the Shadowlands cinematic: the whole "Sylvanas easily defeats the Lich King" is bullshit, but the cinematics is done well.
Art and music are the only good thing left in Blizzard games now
@@wisniamw Exactly. The leveling experience is great, it just goes to crap once you hit max level
The "stat overhaul" system in general was a big mistake. Sure there were some streamlining problems with the old stat system, but what they did wasn't to fix it, but to throw all of the really cool concepts out with the faults, and replace it all with an incredibly dull and uninteresting stat system.
And the talent system too. Personally I think the current talent system where you have to choose between abilities is really good, but not as a replacement for the talent system!
They should've kept the original talent system, and added this ability choice ON TOP.
Complexity is good for an RPG. It's half of what makes the game. There has to be a lot of shit you can get lost in. Sure it will always caused problems that require constant hotfixing, but so does the current status quo too. Except it's much more boring and sterile.
I Miss Multistrike
Except the stats have barely changed lol.
@@zolikoff The current status quo doesn't require a bunch of hotfixing though. Adding pointless complexity just drives away people. Even then, can you honestly say "Oh look, I got another point for 1% crit" is "complexity"? It isn't "complexity", it's minutae.
zolikoff Idk the talent system from the old days wasn’t good either it’s all cookie cutter too depending on what you’re doing. Always gonna be a build that’s better than others still no freedom of choice I’d say the talents every 15 levels still aren’t as restricted. It does feel better getting something every level though that’s what makes them feel better to people you feel like you’re getting stronger even though the impact isn’t that big.
Aw man I never write comments on youtube videos but as a longtime player who tried to get back into the game in late bfa, you just said everything I was feeling. I felt like a filthy casual scrub for complaining about the giant pile of bs they're making me slog through to be viable in the content I actually want to play so it's comforting to hear someone who clearly knows a lot about the game and puts a lot of time into it voicing the same concerns I had. You're really articulate and get your points across in a concise way and still manage to be entertaining without any added fluff. I don't sub to many wow channels but you've earned it :)
When i started my adventure with wow game (the very start of the legion), i basically felt in love with the game. Was so hyped about getting artifact and unlocking all the traits. Decided to have all classes in game so either bought or leveled em up just to play the game with every single variety i was able to achieve. I did not even bother making all the same content all over and over - still up to this day i remember sytuations, when i died from skmebody exping and i knew what quests will he do and where will he go. And now i want to play current game but i can not find myself, im getting bored with only one or two of my characters - not to mention i spent all my legions experience alting all chars i was able to. Do not really understand the problem of this game - as u said, id rather go and sleep than play. Lost so many people so i do not have anybody to go for mythic + or raids, that is kinda sad, failed my guils multiply times when i wqs about to do raid with em, but i did not have good gear enough to join them. Bought every book from warcraft universe, have so many ambient music videos to sleep to. I just hope time will bring better changes to the game.
I have one, “Enough pathfinder achievements”.
i mean i get that they want people to see the zones in their first playthrough but i feel like completing the questline should be enough fuck the rep grinds and shit
@@nevr9281 Or just make the rep grind easier for example just add tabards like in wrath or cata where if you would wear one faction tabard in dungeon you would get rep for that faction.
@@mates9816 I like the current large grind for reps, but I think the rewards should be cosmetic things like mounts and stuff so it still feels like something worth doing, but not necessary. Pathfinder and Allied races or anything effecting gameplay should require only Honored or maybe Revered.
When I was thinking of pre-ordering Warlords of Draenor I did so on the assumption that flying was going to be added after a short 2-3 month wait and though I didn't like It I decided that it was ok. Then later turned into even later which turned into "We won't be adding it because we never designed it for flying" ONLY to add it eventually because subs tanked. Even then when we got it it came with a load of bullshit like finding "treasures" and was such a pain I didn't get it until after I'd gotten legion pathfinder.
@@nevr9281 After you have quested through a zone, you have seen it enough, pathfinder should just be the questlines in each zone and honored with each rep, and explorer, nothing else.
Bonus Idea: Make Sylvannas an interesting anti-hero again who lives to save her people instead of a villain who wants a lot of deaths to be super powerful.
Wouldn't be enough to save the game but sure, drive her story to at least make sense... The one we're currently getting is plagued by completely braindead storytelling unfortunately
Warcraft storytelling is brainded since warcraft 1, so it's not gonna change anything.
Moonis sylvannas always sucked as a character
@@jmanjman2685 doesn't mean she needs to keep on suckin after 20 years (or does she ;D)
Also make an Alliance character a villian for a change. Let Tyrande become corrupt and become a raid boss
I was exhausted from BFA and therefore switched to Classic. Now four weeks have passed and I'm level 54. I enjoyed every minute. I was finally happy to log in again. Day after day.
@PepoHappy MMOs probably aren't for you friend
@PepoHappy Thats... kinda what mmos do. You grind dungeons and raids for gear. Try a different genre and see if you like it better.
On uninteresting loot:
I have been playing a new character, as in im "starting over" after not playing for years. While i was exploring, i noticed mobs, quests and gear scales with your level( to a limit), and at some poiny i stoped going out of my main big city because, why should i? I can get gear AND exp on dungeons. Maybe i could level my professions, or hunt some very specific armor for my planned trasmog, but thats about it.l
I don't even mess with the dailies in Uldum or the Vale. I just do the objective and gtfo. I don't raid or do mythic dungeons at all, as I'm a solo player. I do enjoy the timewalking dungeons though.
same here though i do raiding and mythic dungeons. mostly now im helping my guildies get better
moonknight79 Yeah, but honestly that’s ok unless you’re in the top 1% of the player base you don’t even need to mindlessly grind. The game isn’t in a good state but I think too many take it to seriously.
How can you be a solo player in an mmorpg? Like, what do you do? How do you progress your character? Genuine question, because I can't wrap my head around it.
@@nagybotond713 You can do dailies, battlegrounds, and other stuff. Also playing alts helps.
@@elitebooger8208 do dailes and then level alts so you can do more dailies on them too, eek
As a new player this is what i have to say about wow
Classic:
- leveling is way to slow but fun(most of the time)
- nice community aspect
- items feel impactful
Bfa/Retail:
- leveling shouldnt be called leveling but the longest and most boring tutorial in gaming
- way to much wierd shit you have to do like wtf is even going on
- gear feels like upgrading from a q-tip to a tooth brush
- collecting aspect is cool such as mounts and stuff
- really like transmog
- pretty much everything that doesnt evolve playing the game is cool
yess
Calling BfA/retail leveling a tutorial is very generous of you considering how it doesn't teach you anything beyond movement and camera controls.
I actually switched to Argent Dawn because I felt lonely on my server, even with a guild. I realized that RP and community is the real meta and even though I raid Heroic and do +10-15 mythic keystones, at the end of the day its all because I can chill with strangers in the Inn.
@@PregnantOrc LOL it's sad how accurate that is.
I disagree making all dungeons scale with level makes itemization so much more fun than classic. I think classic leveling is fun in it's own way but so is live wows dungeon spam. Is addictive an awesome. Every item is now good within a certain level range and that's fucking great.
The music is so perfectly chosen and timed in your videos. I'm thinking of the bit with the overwhelming dailies/weeklies in particular
This a really good video. I've always had issues articulating exactly why I enjoy the game less than I used to, and this is a perfectly laid-out list of issues that I couldn't have come up with on my own.
the thought of picking up retail again just exhausts me
Spot on as usual. The current daily grind is so overwhelming. I WOULD rather sleep and sometimes do, and dream about simpler times.
Bro I’ve been watching you for years, and never noticed how chill and soothing the background music is. Well done
The music and your voice is so relaxing man, insta like.
The best thing with WoW are you tube channels like yours that shows how good this WAS and how good CAN BE 👍
I'm glad we have a level-headed and logical voice like you out there, blizzard doesn't listen to their player base but they have been known to listen to content creators, hopefully some devs watch this video and learn from it! Thanks for making it!
Thanks, this was awesome and spot on. I agree with everything you say. Been an avid player for 15 years but I stopped BFA about a year ago. Loving every bit of classic and with Nyalotha I thought I'd go back and do a bit of retail again. Within 15 minutes I felt completely overwhelmed by all this stuff I have (not need) to do to get back up to speed. Escape -> Logout. Haven't been back since and it actually hurts. I would love them to listen and fix it with your suggestions
There are some examples of interesting loot in BfA. Sliver, Font, Mechagon bracers, Geti'ikku, Diver's folly to name a few off the top my head. You can also do N'zoth with a level 1 cloak, I did it on several characters.
All is now ruled by the almighty "engagement".
Mom I miss fun.
Shut up billy Engagement is what you get now sit down and play!
I hate engagement mechanics - it's why I quit all modern mmos
then i rather play in FF14 where the game is actually fun and lets you do other stuff then do shitty dailys, get power and end gear
@Cthulhu I too despise the current CORPORATE strategies. It doesn't belong in a game and it never will. Today's "systems" are designed to be something you would see/expect from a casino. If I want to gamble, anything, I'd go to a fucking casino, not buy a fucking game.
I think they use “engagement” as a substitute for fun, because it’s objective, measurable, quantifiable, and trackable. But it’s really not a good substitute for fun. Which leads to all this infinite treadmill shit.
Perfect example: I bought and played DOOM Eternal last week, and it took me only about
@@ndr2q You said it in English better than me. There you go, people. When you go corporate, you go broke. Because the ONLY fucking thing they care is that fucking word, "engagement". Pretty fucking sick of hearing that from the same guy that runs the same game for over 8 years (Ion). Not trashing the guy and blaming it all on him, but someone's gotta say it...
It's really sad going from "Oh boy, can't wait to see how awesome this expansion is going to be!" to "I just hope they don't fuck all the way up, 'cus I'm done".
Last coin for Shadowlands.
Well said. I hope that they fix the issues you discussed. We will have to see if they will listen.
You know I just started raiding. It's pretty fun! I would like to raid w/ you sometime MadSeason :D
One unique way to make stuff somewhat interesting again, even old content could be relevant to an extent is by;
allow a certain sandbox element to the game.
Where you can get a house & decorate it with your feats of strength / armour racks showing gear or weapons etc,
Highly customisable nothing like the Baracks they forced on everyone .. give some control back to the ‘players’ not just a script of what is to be done.
My opinion is minimal, I gave up on retail after sticking it out far to long hoping..
Try Sims. Don't bring this to WoW.
I feel sick just becuse of the list of the daily/weekly. Overall it was fun when I was new player. But now it´s just busy work. I really doubt they will change that :/
Millions comeback every launch
@@iBlueFoxxy True - and if they keep coming, then why changing things?
iBlueFoxxy Tons of people are still on retail despite what classic players say I’d say they’re split pretty even honestly I’m on both from time to time. Retail more cause Classic is pretty boring to me. With the 100%xp boost retail might even have more players on it right now tons of people everywhere and like 1-3 min dungeon ques even as a dps leveling at least for me.
@@miroslavzima8856 they come back because of changes and new stuff lol...
@@iBlueFoxxy yeah, it's still enough to make money to justify it. although the retention after launch is awful compared to past expansions
Hey MadSeason, I did a fresh boosted 120 rogue last week. It took me 2 weeks to get the heart of Azerite to 80, get 4 ranked 4 essences, and get geared enough to do heroic raiding. As long as you got good essences unlocked previously now is a great time to come back on an Alt.
I can’t like this video enough. Thank you for sticking through all of the hard times and making content. Absolutely love listening to your videos. I couldn’t help but laugh with the “Every. Set. Piece.” It spoke to my soul. I miss weapons having fun effects too, like the ravager for a quick example. Thank god we at least have something to fall back on for now.
This is a beautiful, well-made video coming from a place of love.
My favourite expansion is MoP. Ye there were tons of daily quests, but the thing is, it wasnt necessery to do it. Most of them was just for customization aspect as mounts, toys, transmog. So for me as a pvp player it was perfect design, because i havent been forced to do them to be able to play and enjoy the game. Just make shadowlands the same way, please.
YES PLEASE I MISS MOP
Wrong. They were must have for professions.You also had to farm rep to buy certian trinkets like thunder isle patch ones.
Yeah, in MoP I actually enjoyed doing the dailies for the mounts. I mean it was something to look forward to. My brain goes into foggy mode with BFA dailies. Reminds of going to Church when I was a kid and singing the same songs every week. I knew all the words but my mind was 1000 miles away.
I feel like MoP was unappreciated in its time, but retrospectively now with BFA on our plate, MoP looking back was actually an excellent xpac, at least imo.
so that.
I was getting stock carries from you a few days ago, was pretty cool =D
Felt like I had to write something after what you said about daily activities.
I tried playing BfA, in fact I tried it twice with a gap in between and it turned out exactly as you said. I leveled along fine, reached max level, suddenly I was bombarded by half a billion suggestions to go everywhere, my quest log, which I hardly noticed existed before was suddenly too full to even take all these suggestions. I searched for a guide online on what the hell I was supposed to do, found a good five different ones all talking about completely different content, so I rushed into a flurry, unlocking mechagon, unlocking that underwater place, unlocking some other type of worldquests that I never really gathered what they were for, did the emissaries, slogged my way through what quests were available in mechagon and the waterzone, tried to progress the whole amulet storyline with Magni, on the way there noticing some sort of shit going on in uldun that I made a note of and then left alone. The next few days I did the same with slightly less vigor every day, on the 4th day, I logged in took a flight to Mechagon, went to read a book instead, found myself logged out due to inactivity, and the next day I just didn't log in again.
I barely did anything in the game, got nowhere, understood nothing and I got too burned out to even want to log in again. A game have never ever made me feel this depressed, alone, isolated and apathetic ever before, so I guess if that was the goal of BFA, then they succeeded with it.
I know absolutely nothing about WOW but this was in my recommended
18:33 - aged like fine milk
Idk what I would do without you Mad Season :) you bring fulfillment in my life..... Moin from Vienna
I am honestly wondering and especially hoping that someone from blizz is actually watching this to take some notes. Madseason is such a nice, down to earth person with some great and detailed feedback... its all here.
So glad to have him back in my sub feed!
Big truths coming out of ur mouth my friend, hopfully the bring back tier sets, and most of ur dmg actually comes from ur class abilties and not from random procs.
Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts is my new favorite thing.
love madseason, love is what you have for the game, the players and the people who work on the game. All I hear is love and I love you for making this video and sharing your love... peace
These videos always make me smile.
There is always a heart warming aspect and it's lovely to get both that AND Warcraft nerdery in the same video!
Spot on, on every single suggestion.
The sad part is that this will fall to deaf ears for once more. I have zero faith in this company anymore.
we are to deep into the gearing system. i lost hope for change
Just gotta say your videos are always so relaxing, I really appreciate them.
You always have old content to look forward to see again :)
It sounds impossible to remove all this stuff given how its been ingrained into the game for almost a decade.
yeah, it's so tainted now that i don't know if it can be saved
@@EB-bl6cc It could be, if the right people were brought back in and cared enough to extend Classic with new content in the old style. But Activision/Blizzard doesn't think that's the way forward so it's (sadly) not going to happen.
That said, Classic is the perfect opportunity to split the player base in a healthy way. Those who like the "Retail" treadmill could keep it, while the fans of Classic could get new content, even if it was at a slower pace. Then, since Blizzard can doubtless track the numbers of "who plays which version of the game, and for how long" they could devote development resources to the version that is actually bringing in the cash.
THAT said, I don't think they want to lose the extra revenue from things like store mounts/pets, and especially Token sales. All the features that have allowed them to make more money on fewer people are the same features that have caused there to be fewer people to make money on in the first place.
For me personally, I would also love to see slower paced fights again. Nowadays in retail the pace of the fights and the animations are identical to MOBA-like games (LoL, DotA etc). Oh, and please make it so we don't need 10 people to kill a single healer in BGs..
I just can't play my casters anymore on retail after coming back from classic because they all feel way too fast and every spell feels the same...
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff I feel the same for my rogue too lol
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff Magic Bolt - Do 50 magic damage 1.5 sec cast
Magic spell number 2 - Do 52 magic damage CD 5 seconds 1.5 sec cast
Magic spell 3 - Do 5000 magic damage Instant cast requires you to cast 5 shitty spells before this
This but with all classes
Great feedback - I stopped logging into retail years ago because I couldn't stand the chores and only felt dread when logging in.
Love your video's mate.
Be safe during the virus winter.
We should get all WoW streamers and WoW personalities to stand up and start a partition to quit for a month all at the same time! To quit "pay to win" in Classic and also take away some features from TBC like flying just to keep the ground interaction alive and in the fly zones we can see special flight master for certain zones that require fly only or you have to do a internment to get a whistle for that zone or special zones like Kaazak zone in BC maybe even keep the level cap at 60 and make every Dungon and Raid viable in BC! So as every expansion you get new raids and dungeons but still have the choice to run old ones as for gear that would still be viable! Given players and guilds more choices to pick and choose from every week to do a different 40/25 man raid every week!
Some zones in tbc require flying.
"It's like 300 slot machine handles that reset daily" Perfect analogy lol
First, I only started playing Classic when they re-released it.. Growing up i was more sucked into games like C&C and Starcraft, shooters like Halo CE, 2 and 3.. but after watching people time timthetatman and cloakzy be so pumped for it, i dove it, and i LOVED it. It consumed me for months (Not going to lie its gotten stale now, more to come on that). After i leveled and started raiding i decided id check out current after hearing Asmon talk about it and that;s where my confusion started. There is no way for someone new to make any sense of what you should be doing / collecting. With classic it was very clear (for the most part).. where to go, which dungeon was next and what items were meant for your class..in BOA i literally get so overwhelmed with everything on my map, i log off. If i do happen to play and do something i wonder, was the the best way to spend my time? Did that even matter? I couldn't agree with your video more than raiding looks so much more fun in current (as i mentioned classic has grown stale) but you need to make the game understandable for new gamers with a level of complexity at the top end. just my opinion.
Nice vid. /agree. I stopped playing a couple years ago just too much grind for loot that seemed all the same except for stat numbers.
If they fixed these things, Id play retail again. I miss it.
As for "making loot interesting again", at least in legion they had those legendaries....
Everyone complained about them, including me, but man, compared to what we have to deal with today it seems like a perfect system (which it wasn't). But the dude made a good point - i still remember what i was wearing on my warrior in Vanilla and more less remember where all that drops. Because these things were rare and unique.
holy hell you know your game is lost when "legendaries" are for every class and everyone can get them. Very legendary. VERY. LEGENDARY.
@@ABurntMuffin For every class, for almost every slot. In legion you could be almost full legendary xD
Bring back normal items, not this random generated crap
AND BRING BACK NORMAL STATS, LIKE TONS OF IT
The main problem that I had with the legendary system in legion was mostly the completely RNG way of getting them, you basically had to just do M+ and Raids all the day all the time and hope you roll the dice enough to get it. I spent the first 2 months of Legion with no legendary, only to get my BiS legendary (Unholy DK bracers) and instantly quit the game. It just didn't make me feel accomplished that I had obtained that item and I knew I wasn't having fun. I felt more relief rather than excitement that I had it drop. It also didn't help that Unholy DK was literally the worst DPS class during Nightmare.
There is something to say about how it devalued the idea of a "legendary", rarity wise. However, epics have been that way since forever now and really nobody gives a shit anymore. Legendaries have really stopped being special since the the MoP cloak, so I didn't have a problem with legion legendaries in that way.
They fucked up that too...
I've only played vanilla and burning crusade, so I wanna know how are all these "dailys" and "weeklies" (which seems to be griding, right ?) any different than the grindint we have in classic ? Rank 14, attunement, and so on? I have to say I didn't understand exactly what they are, it is a bit overwhelming, but is it more than classic's grinding ? And why ?
Something about a MadSeasonShow video just makes me feel like I just went back to my childhood home, walked into my room, and climbed into bed. Just makes me happy.
As for this video, I completely agree with all your points. I want to play retail, I want to play it more than people can imagine, but I work 8 hours a day, the last thing I want to do is work another 4 in Azeroth.
his voice literally almost made me fall asleep in home office
I really hope Shadowlands turns out well...
They make it out to be nostalgic in regards to stats, as well as not requiring you to expac jump from 1-60. We’ll see. They mentioned class spells that have different effects depending on your character build. Pretty interesting but time will tell.
wotlk good cata bad mop good wod bad legion good bfa bad shadowlands good
I still remember a polearm that I had in retail when gear mattered. It was called Stoneraven. I still really like how it looks and when I see somebody bring one up on trade chat in wow classic, I'd be really tempted to buy it. I really enjoyed that weapon, and can't wait to get it again once my hunter reaches level 47, I might even buy it for the heck of it.
Thank you for the improved selection of background music.
One year later he quits WoW. Wow
PvP venders!!! im sick of doing PvE just so i can PvP!!! i understand some people love PvE but for me once i've done it 4 or 5 times im kinda done with it.
I liked warforging in siege of orgrimmar. It was fun to have that cool item you wanted become 5 ilvls higher, especially if it was a weapon. Where they went wrong was making it more than 5 ilvls and available for gear outside raids.
Just now getting back to playing WoW was amazing, and getting my first 120 just a day or 2 ago was amazing but I felt my power switch from Dealing damage to slapping people with a foams or shooting foam dart. I like what they did but I agree less world quest and different stats on gear. P.S Keep up the good work :)