Been a while since I've done this series. The Rerelease beta just ended, so I figured this would be appropriate! I've been streaming on Twitch. If you'd like to catch me live: www.twitch.tv/madseasonshow
Why so mean? Alliance fanboy? Don't think this is very clever to say that nobody cares about horde. I like your videos, but other authors which are playing horde not doing this btw.
@2:11 Madseason covering the important topics LUL. But for real, I love your history related WoW videos. This series definitely one of my most looked forward too. Thanks for the video as always.
I never knew that about spirit and proc rates, that really makes a LOT more sense for all of that stuff. I kind of wish it did have that effect, would have made for a lot of interesting combinations of gear.
Thank you for giving more credit and renown to the amazing Smooth Mcgroove! Great video as always, btw. It's always a pleasure to discover more about the past of WoW. One thing though: why so many people (including you) like to refer to patches like those as "point one two" instead of "point twelve"? I always get confused between ".12" and ".1.2" when it happens! I don't mean this to ill will, I am just curious. :)
Crazy stuff. Having to *run a dungeon* just to access the table for your flasks? They did a bit of flavor like that in Legion with things like The Firmament Stone but still that wasn't *in a dungeon!* No wonder flasks were so expensive, between that and requiring nigh nonexistent herbs.
That Smooth McGroove cover, I think one or two years ago he was interviewed by Crendor about him palying WOW. I believe the Internet Historian used to play it also (tons of wow reference in some of his videos).
Spirit for boosting item proc would have been HUGE! Just imagine how many different playstyles would emerge based off of being able to stack spirit to summon Eskhandar or disorient people in PvP with Dark Edge of Insanity.
Streams were a blast. I will probably take a break until Classic releases, but I should get a lot of video editing done at least. I think I'll hop on during the weekends though
I miss Star Wars Galaxies, nice of you to bring it up. Was playing it before WoW came along, my first mmo experience. I still miss the early days of it when everyone was just figuring out what to do and everyone was really close because of it. I'd group up in leveling parties and we'd go run around the planet of Tatooine. One of us would set up a camp near where we decided to farm, like the Tusken Raider Fort.
More thanks and praise,... keep 'em coming. I remember waiting in that epic line outside of Fry's electronics to buy the first WOW package!! The feeling was electric. If you have checked out the online show The Guild, you'll see what I mean.
Such nostalgia. Love it. Even if I weren't around back then. (Not until just 6 months before BC's release). Lots of things are so familiar. One question though: WIth all these Talent changes in previous patches. Did people got a refund on them every time they changed it. I can't remember how resetting talents went. I believe it wasn't all for free, as I said, can't remember. Great video, thanks a lot!
I remember in SWG dying and having to make a corpse run to get the loot you had gathered since the last time you insured your items. That was a pretty neat system.
Just a correction. You are forgetting that most guilds DID NOT use master looter in classic because it was bugged bad. Sometime you couldn’t even give loot to players aswell as many other problems. So guilds revolved this by putting it on group loot, having everyone pass and the winner of the loot item from DKP for example, would just loot the item from the corpse. That’s why guilds got ninja looted a lot more back in the day. Because they could just run upto the mob and loot it. And yes free for all would work too.
I think in these patches is when Indalamar got fury warriors nerfed. For good reason, because holy crap those early fury talents just annihilated everything. I also remember some people in the beta were upset with the reveal of the sub fee with WOW because it was higher than other MMOs at the time. So that does kinda suck, especially since it's now standard. I still think it's crazy (and funny) how good the first pass of those level 60 fury talents were though. I don't remember everything on it, but I think bloodthirst was a pretty strong self-buff after you got a kill, and improved cleave let your cleaves hit like 5 extra targets instead of just 1, and pile that on with all the big burst damage crits and it just resulted in high level fury warriors being unstoppable DPS machines. IIRC warlock talents were mostly the same for destro from those beta patches up to the redo/revamp by 1.12, affliction might have gotten some improvements (but not many) but demonology was felhunter poop when it first came out. But by the retail talent revamp for them, demonology became pretty solid, arguably the best for raiding and definitely the best for PVP (I'd pretty much just do 0/30/21 for raiding, and get soul link for PVP).
That window to MC.... It was always a moment of 'leap of faith', It always seemingly had a high chance of bugging if a couple tried to jump through at the same time, so it felt like Russian roulette.
Spirit increasing item procc percantage sounds really interesting. Now certain stats weights make much more sense, but I guess a warrior with hand of justice and a lot of Spirit would result in more oneshot videos then windfury did.
Ohhh the snapshots of the forum topics is a magnificent idea. I remember that old layout, lol. Its CRAZY that we questioned whether WoW would even be successful....
There is so much goodies in these old patches and later that could be included in a version of wow classic , zones , skins ,talents unrested xp , bouncy breast on rp server , etc
The reason there was _"melee"_ damage boost for casters was because back then and iirc even up to 1.something elemental damage boost for casters affected enchants that did that elements damage... so seeing a mage or lock whack a sword and suddenly do buttload of elemental damage was not unheard of .. many of my own killing blows (PvP or pve) were from that sword swing doing a chunk of fire damage almost equal to a fireblast or scotch haha 😎 Edit : did you just say SHcolomance @ 10:24? 🤣💚 Edit 2 : please hurry to the next one mad. My morning coffee and... err other things is just not the same without your awesome videos! Thanks as always!
I really wish they had kept the original female Troll models. It looks accurate instead of how in final the males and females looked like two separate species. If somebody wants to play a "pretty" female, play a night elf or human. Trolls are ugly and proud of it! :)
Hey man, I love your videos. is there any chance you'd be willing to do a guide of iconic leveling quests not to miss? Back in the day, I leveled alliance, and I'd always hit up the Morladim quest and the stictches chain, and a few others, but this time around, my guild is going horde, and I don't know what the good zones to go to for cool quests are.
Remember that article from some big magazine (Time or Life or something) in the 50s saying that Rock 'n' Roll is a fad and it will die within a few years? That's what these forum post remind me of.
You are one of those TH-camrs who I don't click on your video first, but your name. I do it because I want to make sure I'm not missing a single video.
MadSeason, the more oldschool bodybuilding clips you put in your videos, the more I fall in love with them. And you... n-no homo. That’s Jay Cutler from like 2003 @ 3:51, correct?
Amazing! Centaurs are not welcome on my channel! All else, please join us!
Thanks MadSeasonShow! You are the best!
I highly recommend his stream.
He answers questions both diligently and genuinely.
The positive, relaxed, and intellectual communitys that you guys have are exactly why you guys are my favs.
@@BenW1991NE the fuck
lol at Madseason looking at the old forum posts. The more things change the more they stay the same :P
Been a while since I've done this series. The Rerelease beta just ended, so I figured this would be appropriate! I've been streaming on Twitch. If you'd like to catch me live: www.twitch.tv/madseasonshow
Keep it up man, I'm so proud of you!!!
Dude your amazing, love your streams man. I
MadSeasonShow bashing horde isnt funny you little fucking gnome
Hope you stay Alliance!
Why so mean? Alliance fanboy? Don't think this is very clever to say that nobody cares about horde. I like your videos, but other authors which are playing horde not doing this btw.
WoW died before it was born, according to the forums. Neat.
Warcraft died in Warcraft 3
But that died in Warcraft 2
Which died in Orcs & Humans, killed by Warcraft in Space
As a rule, the wow forums are complete and utter garbage. Literally everybody on there is completely insane.
LOL AAAAAAAHHAHAHAHHHHAHAHA
Yes, Theyre called Forum Gambler
4 months from classic WoW now and forums have "WoW classic is dying" threads already
@2:11 Madseason covering the important topics LUL. But for real, I love your history related WoW videos. This series definitely one of my most looked forward too. Thanks for the video as always.
We all just going to pretend that we didn't notice the pixelated censorship when the female troll did a kick? 1:57
Love it! The music 👍🏻
Just finished, amazing work man. Love the archived forums haha. 10/10
That moment when MadSeasonShow hypes me about the classic wow more than all the streamers and blue posts combined.
He has such a way with words.... “small wiener... thanks streamer”
who would have thought such a monotone voice could amp up so much emotion
Now this is the kinda WoW content I live for. I love old archived stuff and deep delves into the roots of the game.
The censoring @1:58 had me rollin' man! HAHAHA!
The bald man will come if he has no Content
Balding mount collector is slowly on his way monkaS
the content man will come if he has no hair
Balding sucks. Don't know why you guys make fun of it all the time. You might be the unlucky one
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hes here
wow the spirit/proc rate connection blew me over. I never even thought about them being related. I love the look at the old forums too. Good stuff.
I never knew that about spirit and proc rates, that really makes a LOT more sense for all of that stuff. I kind of wish it did have that effect, would have made for a lot of interesting combinations of gear.
Dude. Spirit serving as a kind of "luck" stay would be so cool! The proc rate thing sounds like a real improvement
This is my favorite Room, while 'Waiting for Classic release'.
Thank you for giving more credit and renown to the amazing Smooth Mcgroove! Great video as always, btw. It's always a pleasure to discover more about the past of WoW. One thing though: why so many people (including you) like to refer to patches like those as "point one two" instead of "point twelve"? I always get confused between ".12" and ".1.2" when it happens! I don't mean this to ill will, I am just curious. :)
14:44 Am I hearing right ? Was this... A CHANGE OF TONE ? Wow I thought you actually had only one tone of voice built in !
I just started watching this series a few days ago and was like "I wonder when the rest is coming out" and lo and behold here it is
The only game and youtube channel I can watch a video about the history of f*cking patch notes
yay MSS has time to make more videos again now that the beta is over :D also awesome with the songs of smoothmcgroove!!!
1:26 that dwarf model is awesome why did they change it
looks too much like a human face and this makes the dwarf model not unique
@@Fruxaq the way the stand is amazing
@@scarletlovesgaming1627 It's super adorable. I love it too!
Crazy stuff. Having to *run a dungeon* just to access the table for your flasks? They did a bit of flavor like that in Legion with things like The Firmament Stone but still that wasn't *in a dungeon!* No wonder flasks were so expensive, between that and requiring nigh nonexistent herbs.
Madseasonshow content is amazing! Always good
1:50 wtf i never noticed how strange those female trolls looked and walked until now
I hope you make a 1.1 video before release next week. Good stuff MadSeason!
I think one of the biggest gold sinks in WoW today is transmog gold
Worth every single penny
@torvestas sister cry me a river
@torvestas sister Lfg and lfr ruined wow.
@torvestas sister lol a cosmetic mechanic ruined a game?
Combat endurance for warriors , o boy what a talent that would be . Spirit letting you regenerate health in combat !
that Smooth McGroove intro was pretty nice. Thank you for that!
Well researched, and highly informative. Thank you!
A new MadSeasonShow Episode on my birthday? Oh yeah, I’m definitely going to watch it lol
Happy birthday home slice.
Happy Bday!
That Smooth McGroove cover, I think one or two years ago he was interviewed by Crendor about him palying WOW. I believe the Internet Historian used to play it also (tons of wow reference in some of his videos).
I love these videos. Probably my favorite series of yours
I'm happy that MadSeasonShow did smoothmcgrooves Acapella (Lions pride inn) for his intro so I guess he saw my comment. Love you man!
LOVE the music in this one. Makes me feel so nostalgic.
Great stuff as always Madseason. Keep it up.
Transition from smoothmcgroove into the actual song was brilliant.
Mad best content creator here. Love your choice of music and sense of humor. Loved the monthly fee bit!
Awesome video dude! Much enjoyment was had.
Really fun video :) and maybe more important than we know, the way chunks of the internet slowly disappear over the years, this is a historical piece.
im so early can I get madseason's bath water pls
LOL That is a little disturbing. You going to make tea out of it, or add it to your own bubble bath? Just joking around, have a good weekend.
your vid killed me hahahaha
Spirit for boosting item proc would have been HUGE! Just imagine how many different playstyles would emerge based off of being able to stack spirit to summon Eskhandar or disorient people in PvP with Dark Edge of Insanity.
I really enjoyed this video. Your sense of humour is just epic.
Oh my god that Music from Mario's Tennis... That game had actually incredible music. Subbed!
The music in in your videos is always amazing
Oddly fitting with the close of Classic Beta just last night. It's been awesome watching your stream and look forward watching when the game releases!
Streams were a blast. I will probably take a break until Classic releases, but I should get a lot of video editing done at least. I think I'll hop on during the weekends though
Your videos give me goosebumpss man, keep it up!! I LOVE YOU *MADSEASON*
Another quality vid MadSeason, well done
I miss Star Wars Galaxies, nice of you to bring it up. Was playing it before WoW came along, my first mmo experience. I still miss the early days of it when everyone was just figuring out what to do and everyone was really close because of it. I'd group up in leveling parties and we'd go run around the planet of Tatooine. One of us would set up a camp near where we decided to farm, like the Tusken Raider Fort.
You are a legend MadSeasonShow!
All your videos are amazing keep up the great work!
About damn time my boy. Missed a good ol' mister MS' video :3
More thanks and praise,... keep 'em coming. I remember waiting in that epic line outside of Fry's electronics to buy the first WOW package!! The feeling was electric. If you have checked out the online show The Guild, you'll see what I mean.
DKP is terrible, use EPGP if you want to remain sane and avoid drama.
I agree, worked well in my guild
@Sightless_Seeker Pretty ridiculous argument. The MAJORITY of guilds break up within a few months, so that basically tells you nothing.
@@youtubesuresuckscock my guild lasted 10years, just because we no longer play wow. But we still play other games :D
Love the twitch stream man! You killed it!
that video quality yo! just keeps going up and up :)
I was scrolling through my sub videos and saw the thumbnail of this one and about threw my phone across the room, scared the shit out of me!
Such nostalgia. Love it. Even if I weren't around back then. (Not until just 6 months before BC's release). Lots of things are so familiar. One question though: WIth all these Talent changes in previous patches. Did people got a refund on them every time they changed it. I can't remember how resetting talents went. I believe it wasn't all for free, as I said, can't remember. Great video, thanks a lot!
It's awesome how you deep dived into the forum posts hahh and it changed the gaming world too not only azeroth
Love the music by Smoothmcgroove! The man is such a legend.
It wasn't just because content was new but it was solid and polished, at least more so currently and it made us look for it more
I remember in SWG dying and having to make a corpse run to get the loot you had gathered since the last time you insured your items. That was a pretty neat system.
MadseasonShow doing god's work with that troll censor in the beginning. Thank you
Just here for the intro music and mono voice, also to get my classic fix until the release the day after my birthday this year. :D
Just a correction. You are forgetting that most guilds DID NOT use master looter in classic because it was bugged bad. Sometime you couldn’t even give loot to players aswell as many other problems. So guilds revolved this by putting it on group loot, having everyone pass and the winner of the loot item from DKP for example, would just loot the item from the corpse. That’s why guilds got ninja looted a lot more back in the day. Because they could just run upto the mob and loot it. And yes free for all would work too.
Thanks again. Cant wait to watch you stream. What time do you usually stream?
love the music after the intro music!!!!!
I think in these patches is when Indalamar got fury warriors nerfed. For good reason, because holy crap those early fury talents just annihilated everything. I also remember some people in the beta were upset with the reveal of the sub fee with WOW because it was higher than other MMOs at the time. So that does kinda suck, especially since it's now standard.
I still think it's crazy (and funny) how good the first pass of those level 60 fury talents were though. I don't remember everything on it, but I think bloodthirst was a pretty strong self-buff after you got a kill, and improved cleave let your cleaves hit like 5 extra targets instead of just 1, and pile that on with all the big burst damage crits and it just resulted in high level fury warriors being unstoppable DPS machines. IIRC warlock talents were mostly the same for destro from those beta patches up to the redo/revamp by 1.12, affliction might have gotten some improvements (but not many) but demonology was felhunter poop when it first came out. But by the retail talent revamp for them, demonology became pretty solid, arguably the best for raiding and definitely the best for PVP (I'd pretty much just do 0/30/21 for raiding, and get soul link for PVP).
That window to MC....
It was always a moment of 'leap of faith', It always seemingly had a high chance of bugging if a couple tried to jump through at the same time, so it felt like Russian roulette.
Yeah I remember that, there was always 1 or 2 persons that didn't get caught by the teleport and ended up in lava, funny times.
Sweet, another MadSeason video, with a Smooth intro!
Spirit increasing item procc percantage sounds really interesting. Now certain stats weights make much more sense, but I guess a warrior with hand of justice and a lot of Spirit would result in more oneshot videos then windfury did.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched a video of yours sadly as I haven’t played WoW in a bit. But gotdamn did I miss that intro strum.
Ohhh the snapshots of the forum topics is a magnificent idea. I remember that old layout, lol. Its CRAZY that we questioned whether WoW would even be successful....
Good day when madseason posts!
I remember playing back then and beeing hyped for the release. Any other beta-peeps around?
Is that Smooth McGroove's cover in the background? Hype
There is so much goodies in these old patches and later that could be included in a version of wow classic , zones , skins ,talents unrested xp , bouncy breast on rp server , etc
I love these, they are fun. Till your next one, have a great weekend !
The Troll model with the pink hair just draws a laugh out of you no matter if u wanna laugh or not ahahah xD
The reason there was _"melee"_ damage boost for casters was because back then and iirc even up to 1.something elemental damage boost for casters affected enchants that did that elements damage... so seeing a mage or lock whack a sword and suddenly do buttload of elemental damage was not unheard of .. many of my own killing blows (PvP or pve) were from that sword swing doing a chunk of fire damage almost equal to a fireblast or scotch haha 😎
Edit : did you just say SHcolomance @ 10:24? 🤣💚
Edit 2 : please hurry to the next one mad. My morning coffee and... err other things is just not the same without your awesome videos!
Thanks as always!
I'd ask Kevin what the point was of making specs and classes that can't do end game.
That sounds interesting r _ -
@kellar J my unstoppable force paladin was anything but horrible. FYI.
Thank you for your hard work mate.
Thank YOU for watching!
I really wish they had kept the original female Troll models. It looks accurate instead of how in final the males and females looked like two separate species. If somebody wants to play a "pretty" female, play a night elf or human. Trolls are ugly and proud of it! :)
so... you think the final female version was pretty?
also look at it. 1:53 thats not ugly that just looks retarted.
27 seconds in, just wanted to say I appreciate this acapella tavern music.
Hey Show! Glad I could make it to our meeting early.
I love the way you say “models” and “warlock” in your vids
“Make women less naked” - words that have not been uttered on the WoW forum since 2004.
Hey man, I love your videos. is there any chance you'd be willing to do a guide of iconic leveling quests not to miss? Back in the day, I leveled alliance, and I'd always hit up the Morladim quest and the stictches chain, and a few others, but this time around, my guild is going horde, and I don't know what the good zones to go to for cool quests are.
Is it me or is the Smooth McGroove acapella super distracting?
Only because it is super great!
True
I lack the words to describe or praise your content so Im gonna do the closest best thing and just say "I love you"
Remember that article from some big magazine (Time or Life or something) in the 50s saying that Rock 'n' Roll is a fad and it will die within a few years? That's what these forum post remind me of.
You are one of those TH-camrs who I don't click on your video first, but your name. I do it because I want to make sure I'm not missing a single video.
So true. So very true.
Great vid Mad 👍👍
Ill miss playing with you on the beta. it was fun :)
great video
Love your videos and streams #Madseason
14:21 OMG I remember those "Does 0.999~ = 1" forum wars.
How about a 'Rare' mobs series? each episode covering the different rare mobs in each zone and perhaps the lore behind them?
Yo that gnome thumbnail was scary asf
MadSeason, the more oldschool bodybuilding clips you put in your videos, the more I fall in love with them. And you... n-no homo.
That’s Jay Cutler from like 2003 @ 3:51, correct?
ye, it is jay
2:11 we need this cut content back in the game