I notice that too the first time I saw this movie in 2013. I was impressed and I put myself in his shoes... You +Ben G are a student of acting... respect!
+L3ndzo83 My biggest problem was I was so much fan of Zod that Jor El and Kal El were villains to my eyes. Than Faora, a man hater, is flirting. But really I wanna see more from Zod. Not that Doomsday Zod.
"The people of Earth are different from us, it's true. But ultimately I believe that's a good thing. They won't necessarily make the same mistakes we did. Not if you guide them, Kal. Not if you give them hope. That's what this symbol means. The symbol of the House of EL means hope. Embodied within that hope is the fundamental belief: the potential of every person to be a force for good. That's what you can bring them." That just may be the greatest line in this movie.
We need the Man of Steel to destroy terrorist groups like ISIS who just attacked Paris a few days ago! If only life imitated art, if only Kryptonian fantasy became reality.
@@Producerukoh They abandoned all the outer worlds to die. they kept themselves secluded on Krypton which led to their downfall. They ruled a lot of the universe for 100k years.
@@chimichangas1432 I'm sorry...but they terraformed the worlds. They should have been able to survive independently. If terraformed worlds could not exist independent of Krypton, then terraforming earth would be a futile endeavor.
That moment when Kal/Clark walks out of the ship and into the snow, dressed in his Superman costume for the first time. He doesn't look like a goofy man in tights: He looks proud and dignified.
+NicholasGeschke Damn right. He looks like fucking Superman. period. He's wearing his family's coat of arms and representing his heritage as the son of Jor-El and a Kryptonian.
+NicholasGeschke In the IMDB trivia, there was a mention that it's kind of a running joke about him wearing his underwear on the outside, like when people would mention the red shorts. It's because unlike the rest of the Kryptonian's that have armor and other things on top of their body suit, he simply runs around like that. It's kind of funny when you think about him and Zod fighting.
"What are you trying to tell me, that I can leap tall buildings in a single bound?" "No Kal-El. I'm telling you that when you're ready, you won't have to."
Frank Lesher Many people would get this reference, especially Captain America. Yes, I'm well aware this is DC. Comic book wars are just as pointless as console wars.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 That's not the point, the point is as a Kryptonian Jor-El essentially went against the morals that his society had taught him since birth. You have any idea how hard that is? to question your own civilizations morals and traditions that it's been practicing for centuries?.
@@controlman7490 That's exactly what I meant. It's all tradition and culture until it your love ones are in danger. That's why I wrote what I wrote. No parent in their right mind would let culture or tradition destroy their children.
I love that Jor-El is no longer an arrogant asshole of a parent, who wants his son to stay away from humans, but, rather, a loving father, who wants his son to be a symbol of hope for Earth, an ideal for other superheroes to strive towards! :)))
But this AI is basically a record of jor-el's memories, it shouldn't change personality or be different from the original jor-el or be able to think for itself should it? I thought its purpose was to relay a message to his son but it's talking to him like it is alive & not a recording! Is this just an oversight in the film or in the superman universe do AI's evolve & think for themselves?
Balthier -leading man I think its because Kryptonian technology is much more advanced than ours, so perhaps their AI's are sophisticated enough to be self-aware.
BlueSlime Player And ironically, society (bloggers and critics) bashed the hell out of this movie because Superman isn't doing what they want him to do.
@@zhengyingli they bashed it because it’s a shit movie. Who reacts(or doesn’t at all) like that to someone telling your that you’re an alien and that your parents are dead
Let that be a lesson: in these days of camera phones, RECORD the things you want your child to know . These times are uncertain. You never know when you gonna leave . Fatherly advice.
A true story: While filming a scene for Proof Of Life where his character meets his son playing (British) football, Russell Crowe met a teenage boy working as an extra, who approached him with questions about a career in acting. Crowe spent some time with him, answering his questions. The extra's name was Henry Cavill. And here they are.
***** Actually, Marlon Brando (who played Jor-El in the Christopher Reeve film) had the idea of it being a family symbol/crest. The comics soon adopted that idea.
"We wanted our child to have a natural birth. One who was free to make his own choices in life and not have his path set in stone before he was even born. Now put on the suit and be a symbol."
chivalry is not dead. its in our hearts friend. and it will not die so long as I draw breath. the dying wishes of a father and of true humanism in its most glorious nature. we can save them all, so long as you all believe
Embodied within that hope is the fundamental belief in the potential of every person to be a force for good. That's what you can bring them." that in my opinion is the greatest definition of hope ever.
I love how much both versions of Jor El (Donner/Snyder) speaks so highly of humans and their 'capacity for good'. The lines from Brando: "They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be, they only lack the light to show the way." encapsulates exactly how amazing the human potential can be, when fully realized, even in the darkest times. Add in Crowe's: "They will race behind you. They will stumble, they will fall, but in time, they will join you in the sun." and it shows the symbol of hope that Superman is for the world, including his fellow heroes in the Justice League. I wished Snyder explored this more in detail.
The dialogue in this movie was amazing. After watching Supergirl I hate how they portrayed the Kryptonians. They really need to take a page out of this movie because this is how Kryptonians should speak and carry themselves.
chookalatemuffin I thought they portrayed Astra and Non perfectly. The budget just isn't there for a true Krypton story (this one obviously hasn't got that issue) but I don't think the characterisation was off at all.
chookalatemuffin supergirl makes the “will they, won’t they” never ending nonsense of (everyone wants to sleep with) smallville look quaint and charming by comparison.
@@IRMentat Wow its funny I read this as I just finished watching all of smallville for the first time in years. They really stretched that shit out, it probably was annoying watching it week to week. Greatest hero show of all time imo, Lex Luthor was great.
This is probably the best portrayal of superman. Humble, calm and confident. If they only carried this character across the other dc movies minus the overly done cg, it would have been different.
I made a choice to bring you back here 2 years later just to ask about the Snyder cut even if it didn't do much extra for Superman because he already has a movie... meh, I just made a choice
@@kalakritistudios But it did do a lot for Superman. Bringing Hans Zimmer's incredible theme back was a huge part, and honestly the scene where he returns to this ship to put on the black suit, with Jor-El & Johnathan Kent's words echoing in his ears, that theme playing...it's my favorite scene in that incredible movie. What was done to Justice League in 2017 was a crime.
Brandon I agree, a lot of people didn't like this movie, I loved it, I saw it twice in theaters, I even like this a little more than Wonder Woman which I love.
@@leifsather2989 I agree dark Knight is still unbeatable to this day but I love this superman over all other movies in DC universe which nolans batman isn't included. Think we can both agree that all other DC movies are pretty bad with the exception of wonder woman
One thing I find interesting about this version of Jor-El is how much he doesn't instill a god complex in Kal. Every other version of Jor kept telling Kal that he was never going to be an Earthling, that he was greater, and that he was a deity among mortals, basically talking down to earthlings. But this version is much more chill about it. He just says, "Yeah, you're born a Kryptonian, but Earth is your home. You're definitely an earthling too."
Jor-El, in his virtual consciousness, also goes so far as to consider himself and his wife to be products of Krypton's failure as a society, thus they both decided never to join Kal to earth. It goes to show how he never sees himself as a god, but a flawed individual who nevertheless believe in the capability for humanity to be good. It's the reason why he doesn't tell his son to be a god among men, but rather to be a hope bringer for all mankind
This scene really beautiful and inspiring. No children, person should be forced in a specific role with no other choices. Humans born with the right to live and be a better person, despite the hardship and circumstances.
Yes forcing jobs on kryptonians is what led Krypton to its destruction as well not just the other problems they had and Jor el knew that I even think zod realized that in krypton's final days as well.
Unfortunately conformism has other ideas but it's own subjects in mind. And it won't pass a chance to sheepify any living vulnerable innocent soul it can bring down and subjugate.
Say what you will about this script, or Crowe's performance -- but this Jor-El soliloquy is tight, concise, to the point, and well delivered. I really enjoyed the Krypton exposition, and wish(ed) there had been a little more of it.
Kevin Costner and Russell Crowe both were amazing as Superman's father. The only thing I hate was Jor El being erased by General Zod, cause I really wanna see Russell Crowe in what could have been potential sequel as a hologram character.
+awesometacular Well it can be argued that at their level of sophistication, living crystals and liquid metals meld seamlessly into one another :)The materials of the future (for us) will be "programmable matter" that can take on different properties at our command. Claytronics, quantum wells, synthetic organisms and liquid metal robots are examples of such a concept that current scientists are trying to develop. It's reasonable to assume that a civilisation with technology as advanced as that of the Kryptonians have already taken this concept to a further extent, so that their materials can flexibly combine the functions of living crystals, liquid metal and much much more.
+awesometacular well Science Fiction usually becomes Science Fact I mean just look at the moon landing, in the 1800s that was thought to be fiction yet that didn't stop us from getting there
Mahesh C Achuthanna Lex luthor's armour is far more advanced than any kryptonian tech because it also uses new god tech(I.e. tech from Darkseid's world)
This is why I like Superman more than Batman. People may say that Superman is too over powered and nobody can match him therefore Batman is better but that is not what Superman is about. Superman is a better inspiration than Batman because Superman inspires hope and good feelings in people. He gives them inner strength to find the good in themselves and stand together. Superman has always been about his continuing and developing relationship with humanity and the lengths he will go to keep them safe. Superman's main struggle has always been trying to achieve and become the perfect symbol for humanity to latch on to.
+Alexander Wang Gang i like them both because they both represent something good. batman represent the determined pursuit of true justice for those who deserve it and superman represents the equally determined struggle for the principles of hope , honesty and compassion that makes good men into great men.
+Lord Harbinger agreed, and he technically is over powered but its not a problem like everyone thinks, he kinda needs to be with the enemies he faces, and me personally i've never like batman, nothing that pisses me off about him or anything, just never been a fan
that is not necessarily true about batman. his father was a doctor who provide aid to people who couldn't afford regular treatment and his mother was a crusader against child abuse and it's because of that that batman fights spare others the same fate as him. both he and superman represent something good even though they both have their flaws. batman represent the unyielding pursuit of justice for those who deserve it and superman represents the equally unyielding struggle to uphold the virtues of honesty and compassion in the darkest and most difficult of times.
Incredible scene. The soundtrack as it builds up to Jor-El setting up the history lesson is perfection. This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie followed by my favorite: Superman takes Flight.
+spideyfan2002 Okay, I'll start a conversation, if that's okay :) I disagree with your point about Jor-El being a Hypocrite. He never forced Clark to be Superman. He didn't make him put the suit on. He didn't say that Clark had an obligation to do anything. Clark has a natural instinct and wanting to help people. He's been looking for answers all his life about who he is and who his parents were and why they sent him to Earth. And here, the Jor-El program is giving him the answers he's been seeking all his life. And he's been told that his family heritage is that of promoting goodness and hope. And again, he never told him "you have to" or "you must" or you will". He's giving him the chance to forge his destiny. Not because he was told to do it, but because it's what he wants to do. Jor -El kept saying "You CAN embody the best of both worlds." "Not IF you guide them, Kal." "Not IF you give them hope." "That's what you CAN bring them." It wasn't a command, it was a choice.
The sadness of this scene is found in the inability to change and the hope that the last chance for change in found in the lost of everything that made you unique. The dialogue between jor-el and Kal-El is a mixture of sadness and redemption. Sadness in the kryptonians inability to change and the chance that Redemption can be found in Kal-El life on Earth.
Clark stepping out in the Superman costume for the first time is such an epic image and Hans Zimmer's score really makes it feel like a real epic moment. The man of steel has officially arrived to take his place as earth's greatest hero.
3:50 Jor EL: You are as much the child of Earth now, as you are of Krypton. You can embody the best of both Worlds. Also Jor EL: Look at the cool suit we made for ya. Wooooo!
It always astonished me when I learnt people hated this movie, its arguable one of the best super hero movies to this date. To the action scenes to the movies soundtrack/score, it really is something else. Russel Crowe killed it as Jor EL too.
He's referencing a crazy nut of a movie producer who wanted Kevin Smith to write a superman script where the villain fights a polar bear in the fortress of solitude.
See, that mercurial kryptonian tech?!? WOULDN'T THAT HAVE BEEN A COOL WAY TO MAKE BRANIAC FOR DAWN OF JUSTICE!?!?! *DOESN'T THAT MAKE SO MUCH MORE FUCKING SENSE THAN LEX LUTHOR CREATING DOOMSDAY!?!?!?!??!*
Fathers,, if they only knew how powerful their words are. It’s something about Dad’s, when a child hears how much their Dad believes in them and no matter what, they speak empowerment into their lives, it’s like, you feel you can take on the whole world. I tell my kids, “You were born to be great. You will be a better person than me. I believe in you. No matter what you face in life, I know you won’t fail. Whether I finish my journey with you or before you complete yours, I’m going to be cheering you on to victory.”
Hmm there's an interesting thought, if the kryptonians spread out and explored the galaxies long ago in the past it's highly likely they encountered a yellow star at some point so there may have been other supermen who lived long before Kel-El on other alien worlds but with the same power. There could even be a colony somewhere filled with them. I'd love if they worked that into the story some day.
“To see you standing and grown into an adult. If only Lara could witness this.” My favorite quote of all time! It reminds me when I met my elementary teachers when they saw me as a young adult!
Apart from the Richard Donner movies and Superman the animated series where Jor-El was a quiet and peaceful scientist, most verisons of him in his AI form especially in Smallville made him this cold, emotionless figure who was always harsh towards his son and would constantly "punish" him. I like this version that they did for Man of Steel where there was a balance to his character, he was a kind and quiet man with a heart of a warrior who would do absolutely anything to protect the people he cares about. Russell Crowe delivered a fantastic performance and nailed it perfectly. His portrayal of Jor-El was superb and really came across as a true father figure who only wanted what was best for his son.
At first when I saw Henry's new costume I didn't like it I was like "Where is his red underwear?" that not Superman. But after seeing the movie & really seeing the costume I had a change of heart I loved the new suit. I saw Superman's new suit in a comic & on an animated TV I realized Superman needed to change his suit up a bit.
It’s ashame Jor-El’s ai was destroyed. It would’ve been awesome if we had scenes like this, with Jor-El talking about other parts of the dc universe, like Apokolips, Doomsday, or the Green lanterns, especially with this visually stunning manner of showing Kryptons history
I remember when I saw it in theaters. I was 10 years old, and I had no idea what was going on. It wasn't until Clark's first flight that it clicked in my head, "...Wait a minute, is this a Superman movie?"
Gustav Ramirez the music score i get goosebumps when jor-el told what the s was for and when the part when clark put on those glasses at the last scene
asianfireflie Ah, yes, the Superman theme... I actually listen to it often on TH-cam, when I'm looking for inspiration.... I guess that it's sheer "epicness" and emotion are what truly depicts Superman as Earth's Greatest Hero! :))
0:36 - "If only Lara could have witnessed this." Um, she was likely pregnant for at least 9 months, what there was no time to copy her consciousness like yours too?
"What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society intended for him or her? What if a child aspired to something greater?" That right there is the very essence of Superman
The actor who played superman Henry Cavill once participated in a film shot in his school in the UK as one of the crowd actors when he was just about 15 years old, and one of the actors was Russell Crowe. He asked Russell Crowe how to be an actor and Russell Crowe encouraged him and sent him some snacks, CD and his autograph. And now they are playing father and son in a blockbuster movie in Hollywood. How nice.
It would be amazing to make a advance civilization like this in real life! Also to have a top-sophisticated scientist and deeply compassionate father like him.
Bryce Farmer The Krypton's explore the galaxy and then because they have stable population control they stop exploring the galaxy and then because of this it leads to a crisis and the core becomes unstable? In the meantime the only scientist who thinks this might be a problem and who convientlally has the only child born in hundreds of years decides to send his child away. Why is the general attacking the rulers when the planet is self destructing all around him? Wouldn't it have made sense to evacuate the remaining inhabitants seeing as they had centuries of knowledge exploring other worlds as stated before? The more the story unfolds the less sense it makes as the person writing it didn't follow it's own structure.
How funny would it be if Kal-El's Earth name was Waldo? Would have made that scene with Zod in the beginning more fitting. "You think your son is safe? I will find him. I will......find him. I WILL FIND HIM!!!!"
The idea that, just like in Smallville, Krypton knew about Earth and it's potential for being a home for their people, hence why they sent Kal / Clark to Earth. Just a tiny detail that adds to the lore that I like.
I watched all the bonus scenes when they were leaked. The scenes didn't do much to fix my overall gripes with the movie. Objectively it makes the movie flow a bit better, but I still can't bring myself to watch the movie again.
I love the smile he gets on his face when he learns his name. The relief of his expression is just bliss.
+Ben G I'm glad other people noticed this. It's a really nice small moment that really adds to his character.
I notice that too the first time I saw this movie in 2013. I was impressed and I put myself in his shoes... You +Ben G are a student of acting... respect!
+L3ndzo83 My biggest problem was I was so much fan of Zod that Jor El and Kal El were villains to my eyes. Than Faora, a man hater, is flirting. But really I wanna see more from Zod. Not that Doomsday Zod.
the relief of someone who's been looking for answers for so long.
And why did you see Jor-El and Kal-El as villains?
I'm just curious.
"The people of Earth are different from us, it's true. But ultimately I believe that's a good thing. They won't necessarily make the same mistakes we did. Not if you guide them, Kal. Not if you give them hope. That's what this symbol means. The symbol of the House of EL means hope. Embodied within that hope is the fundamental belief: the potential of every person to be a force for good. That's what you can bring them." That just may be the greatest line in this movie.
Marlon Brando would be proud
We need the Man of Steel to destroy terrorist groups like ISIS who just attacked Paris a few days ago! If only life imitated art, if only Kryptonian fantasy became reality.
+Otis Carter
As well as the libtards who weep for criminal scum and envy the success of hard workers.
+Otis Carter Oh do put a pillow on your face.
+Awesome Inspector That's more than one line, lol.
I love the way they depicted the Kryptonian tech.
its perhaps the most organic of the tech represented
Biomechanical nanomachines
But these muthfukas could not keep a civilization going on another planet. Biggest dissonance I've ever seen in a movie...
@@Producerukoh They abandoned all the outer worlds to die. they kept themselves secluded on Krypton which led to their downfall. They ruled a lot of the universe for 100k years.
@@chimichangas1432 I'm sorry...but they terraformed the worlds. They should have been able to survive independently.
If terraformed worlds could not exist independent of Krypton, then terraforming earth would be a futile endeavor.
That moment when Kal/Clark walks out of the ship and into the snow, dressed in his Superman costume for the first time. He doesn't look like a goofy man in tights: He looks proud and dignified.
+NicholasGeschke His purpose found.
+NicholasGeschke Damn right. He looks like fucking Superman. period. He's wearing his family's coat of arms and representing his heritage as the son of Jor-El and a Kryptonian.
+NicholasGeschke In the IMDB trivia, there was a mention that it's kind of a running joke about him wearing his underwear on the outside, like when people would mention the red shorts. It's because unlike the rest of the Kryptonian's that have armor and other things on top of their body suit, he simply runs around like that. It's kind of funny when you think about him and Zod fighting.
+NicholasGeschke and the costume was already here! fantastic
+Luis Filipe Peneda da Silva how though? That is indeed "fantastic"
"What are you trying to tell me, that I can leap tall buildings in a single bound?"
"No Kal-El. I'm telling you that when you're ready, you won't have to."
KingdomOfDimensions i can only say one thing: matrix reference
Frank Lesher Many people would get this reference, especially Captain America. Yes, I'm well aware this is DC. Comic book wars are just as pointless as console wars.
KingdomOfDimensions i got that MATRIX vibe too dude!😉
You'll learn jet propulsion, son
Shazam
Every parent wants a better world and opportunity for their child. Jor-El here is prime example
Agree.
Jor-El is prime example? You never met a real parent before or something?
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 he did his best compared to other kryptonians
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 That's not the point, the point is as a Kryptonian Jor-El essentially went against the morals that his society had taught him since birth. You have any idea how hard that is? to question your own civilizations morals and traditions that it's been practicing for centuries?.
@@controlman7490 That's exactly what I meant. It's all tradition and culture until it your love ones are in danger. That's why I wrote what I wrote. No parent in their right mind would let culture or tradition destroy their children.
I really love how even in death jor el still continued to guide his son.
I love that Jor-El is no longer an arrogant asshole of a parent, who wants his son to stay away from humans, but, rather, a loving father, who wants his son to be a symbol of hope for Earth, an ideal for other superheroes to strive towards! :)))
he wanted him to be an ideal for humanity not for superheroes
that one of the thing i hate about superman that his father send him on earth to be a symbole of hope
But this AI is basically a record of jor-el's memories, it shouldn't change personality or be different from the original jor-el or be able to think for itself should it? I thought its purpose was to relay a message to his son but it's talking to him like it is alive & not a recording! Is this just an oversight in the film or in the superman universe do AI's evolve & think for themselves?
richarson mirien
What exactly do you hate about that and why?
Balthier -leading man
I think its because Kryptonian technology is much more advanced than ours, so perhaps their AI's are sophisticated enough to be self-aware.
What if a child dreamed of becoming something greater, something greater than what society intended for him
Best movie wisdom
BlueSlime Player And ironically, society (bloggers and critics) bashed the hell out of this movie because Superman isn't doing what they want him to do.
Yeah they covered that as well in the next movie in the Superman question part
@@zhengyingli they bashed it because it’s a shit movie. Who reacts(or doesn’t at all) like that to someone telling your that you’re an alien and that your parents are dead
@@kamikazekalamari Clark already knew he's an alien for two decades.
@@zhengyingli he knew he was from a pod and probably not human, but not that he’s literally an alien. And even if, still doesn’t counteract my point
Swear Russell Crowe has the best voice for narrating shit! XD
one of the top anyways
What about Peter Cullen?
What about Jeff Bridges?
Akin cetinbas Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill.
Morgan Freeman, James Spader, Russell Crowe, David Attenborough are among the best.
i can relate so much to jor-el's quote "what if a child dreamed of becoming other than what society indented for them"
Edgy. lmao gtfo
*****
No, you are.
*****
Thank your dad for that.
*****
Yes you do, we all do.
Cinemaniac Jean bless you man
That hologram of Jor-El was more of a father than mine ever was.
Mine was never around. We can still break the chain and not be like the weak people who tend to be fathers!
My father died and everyday i mourn him. Since his passing all theses years i feel alone
Let that be a lesson: in these days of camera phones, RECORD the things you want your child to know . These times are uncertain. You never know when you gonna leave .
Fatherly advice.
My father is a fucking prick. But he's still my father
You are not Superman so that makes it even.
A true story:
While filming a scene for Proof Of Life where his character meets his son playing (British) football, Russell Crowe met a teenage boy working as an extra, who approached him with questions about a career in acting. Crowe spent some time with him, answering his questions. The extra's name was Henry Cavill. And here they are.
Cool
"Who are you?""My name is Decimus Maxiumus Meridius...."
+alexhortdog95 "Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance. In this life or the next"
+afc97 "are you not entertained ? "
+alexhortdog95 I laughed.
+alexhortdog95 I laughed.
HOLD THE LINE. STAY WITH ME!
1:02 the face he finally knows his real name. So innocent and pure.
I love how Superman's logo has more meaning than just being an "S".
***** if we agree or not...........i still like you. i think we think the same butt maybe different. :-)
***** Actually, Marlon Brando (who played Jor-El in the Christopher Reeve film) had the idea of it being a family symbol/crest. The comics soon adopted that idea.
***** Quite. I also find it funny that it was an ACTOR, not a WRITER, that came up with that idea. Well, they're all creators in the end, I guess.
+Stuart Hays EVERY logo has more meaning than merely it's meaning.
"savior" "hope"
"We wanted our child to have a natural birth. One who was free to make his own choices in life and not have his path set in stone before he was even born. Now put on the suit and be a symbol."
Lol
chivalry is not dead. its in our hearts friend. and it will not die so long as I draw breath. the dying wishes of a father and of true humanism in its most glorious nature. we can save them all, so long as you all believe
That's not how it happened
Thank you!!!!!!!!
It was not a command; it was a suggestion.
Cavill's American accent is SO good.
He was born to play Superman.
Nah. Tom Welling is the best.
@@turquoisemoon3654 I mean.. Tom is just an actor, a good one, but Henry Cavill just has the looks and a great passion for the character to this day
@@Frank-zw7gn And he still played him wrong
It's too regionless, but that's most British actors. They tend to default to the news anchor dialect of Nowhere, USA.
@@blueberry01120 I don’t think that matters as long as it sounds convincing.
I love this scene; its one of my favorites in the whole film.
Embodied within that hope is the fundamental belief in the potential of every person to be a force for good. That's what you can bring them." that in my opinion is the greatest definition of hope ever.
They will stumble, they will fall, but in the end, they will join you in the sun, kal...
"Man is a victim of dope
in the incurable form of hope"
Ogden Nash
So many great lines
I love how much both versions of Jor El (Donner/Snyder) speaks so highly of humans and their 'capacity for good'. The lines from Brando: "They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be, they only lack the light to show the way." encapsulates exactly how amazing the human potential can be, when fully realized, even in the darkest times. Add in Crowe's: "They will race behind you. They will stumble, they will fall, but in time, they will join you in the sun." and it shows the symbol of hope that Superman is for the world, including his fellow heroes in the Justice League.
I wished Snyder explored this more in detail.
The dialogue in this movie was amazing. After watching Supergirl I hate how they portrayed the Kryptonians. They really need to take a page out of this movie because this is how Kryptonians should speak and carry themselves.
chookalatemuffin what do you expect, its a low budget tv show compared to this movie
chookalatemuffin plus theres just something with cw making their shows so cheesy and bland. Netflix on the other hand is magnificent
chookalatemuffin I thought they portrayed Astra and Non perfectly. The budget just isn't there for a true Krypton story (this one obviously hasn't got that issue) but I don't think the characterisation was off at all.
chookalatemuffin
supergirl makes the “will they, won’t they” never ending nonsense of (everyone wants to sleep with) smallville look quaint and charming by comparison.
@@IRMentat Wow its funny I read this as I just finished watching all of smallville for the first time in years. They really stretched that shit out, it probably was annoying watching it week to week. Greatest hero show of all time imo, Lex Luthor was great.
This is probably the best portrayal of superman. Humble, calm and confident. If they only carried this character across the other dc movies minus the overly done cg, it would have been different.
I made a choice to bring you back here 2 years later just to ask about the Snyder cut even if it didn't do much extra for Superman because he already has a movie... meh, I just made a choice
@@kalakritistudios But it did do a lot for Superman. Bringing Hans Zimmer's incredible theme back was a huge part, and honestly the scene where he returns to this ship to put on the black suit, with Jor-El & Johnathan Kent's words echoing in his ears, that theme playing...it's my favorite scene in that incredible movie. What was done to Justice League in 2017 was a crime.
Looking back at this, I was really harsh on this film. To any fellow DC and Superman fans, I am sorry
+Thunder Goku You sir, are a very mature individual. Thank you and welcome to the family of the house of El!
Supermang I humbly accept.
+Thunder Goku There's a lot of people who seem to have re-watched this movie and realized how good it was. Glad to see you're openminded
Ian Levinson Thanks man.
Superman gets too much hate for being op which he isn't. And this film is overhated
Russell Crowe nailed it here!
Yeah, he did very well in my opinion.
Marlon Brando would be proud
Hell yeah he did
@@lightheart5 He would have got on very well with Russell Crowe.
Quite possibly the best DC movie ever. Wonder Woman is up there too, but this movie is just fantastic.
Brandon I agree, a lot of people didn't like this movie, I loved it, I saw it twice in theaters, I even like this a little more than Wonder Woman which I love.
Dark Knight beats this
Dark Knight isn't part of the dceu though. However I agree TDK its the best comic book movie of all time.
Chris Stanley I never said it was part of the DCEU, you said this was the best DC movie and the Dark Knigjt beats this bc it is also a DC movie
@@leifsather2989 I agree dark Knight is still unbeatable to this day but I love this superman over all other movies in DC universe which nolans batman isn't included. Think we can both agree that all other DC movies are pretty bad with the exception of wonder woman
thats symbol looks so much cooler than before
Of course it does
One thing I find interesting about this version of Jor-El is how much he doesn't instill a god complex in Kal. Every other version of Jor kept telling Kal that he was never going to be an Earthling, that he was greater, and that he was a deity among mortals, basically talking down to earthlings. But this version is much more chill about it. He just says, "Yeah, you're born a Kryptonian, but Earth is your home. You're definitely an earthling too."
Jor-El, in his virtual consciousness, also goes so far as to consider himself and his wife to be products of Krypton's failure as a society, thus they both decided never to join Kal to earth. It goes to show how he never sees himself as a god, but a flawed individual who nevertheless believe in the capability for humanity to be good. It's the reason why he doesn't tell his son to be a god among men, but rather to be a hope bringer for all mankind
I think going from Crystalize technology to liquid metal was brilliant.
It seems more like magnetized metal powder to me.
Henry Cavill is such a great Superman. I hope they never change it!
lol, can't tell if you're trying to troll me or if you haven't read the "Death of Superman" and "Superman Lives" comic.
Oof
Geralt of Rivia
😭😭😭
They just did...
This scene really beautiful and inspiring. No children, person should be forced in a specific role with no other choices. Humans born with the right to live and be a better person, despite the hardship and circumstances.
Yes forcing jobs on kryptonians is what led Krypton to its destruction as well not just the other problems they had and Jor el knew that I even think zod realized that in krypton's final days as well.
Unfortunately conformism has other ideas but it's own subjects in mind. And it won't pass a chance to sheepify any living vulnerable innocent soul it can bring down and subjugate.
"The earth is the cradle of the mind. But one cannot remain in the cradle forever." -- Tsiolkovsky
Truly said.
Like the role of being killed in the womb?
Russel Crowe gave the the best performance along with Kevin Costner. Really liked the movie
Say what you will about this script, or Crowe's performance -- but this Jor-El soliloquy is tight, concise, to the point, and well delivered. I really enjoyed the Krypton exposition, and wish(ed) there had been a little more of it.
The script was great
Given the incompetence of the kryptonian government that's quite an insult to the ingsoc of 1984.
Russell Crowe is the greatest actor of our time. Any role he plays instantly becomes 1000x better.
Kevin Costner and Russell Crowe both were amazing as Superman's father.
The only thing I hate was Jor El being erased by General Zod, cause I really wanna see Russell Crowe in what could have been potential sequel as a hologram character.
Definitely
“What if the child aspires to become something greater?”
I love this part of the movie. The soundtrack and everything is just so perfect!
crowe is such a good actor
100
Remember seeing him come out wearing the suit for the first time getting goosebumps
I came.
So Kryptonian tech has gone from crystal growth to liquid metal, I'm good with it.
***** I love it. I hope they use this stuff for Cyborg and Metallo
+awesometacular Well it can be argued that at their level of sophistication, living crystals and liquid metals meld seamlessly into one another :)The materials of the future (for us) will be "programmable matter" that can take on different properties at our command. Claytronics, quantum wells, synthetic organisms and liquid metal robots are examples of such a concept that current scientists are trying to develop. It's reasonable to assume that a civilisation with technology as advanced as that of the Kryptonians have already taken this concept to a further extent, so that their materials can flexibly combine the functions of living crystals, liquid metal and much much more.
Baoqing Ye So this science fiction isn't quite as fiction as I thought.
+Galileo Galilei maybe nothing ? Because its sci fi >.>
+awesometacular well Science Fiction usually becomes Science Fact I mean just look at the moon landing, in the 1800s that was thought to be fiction yet that didn't stop us from getting there
Those Kryptonian space suits at 1:34 really remind me of Lex Luthor's power armor.
Technically by getting into the Kryptonian ship or the Fortress of Solitude he learned about them and made his suit based on those suits.
Mahesh C Achuthanna Lex luthor's armour is far more advanced than any kryptonian tech because it also uses new god tech(I.e. tech from Darkseid's world)
I thought the same thing, when I saw that!!
This is why I like Superman more than Batman. People may say that Superman is too over powered and nobody can match him therefore Batman is better but that is not what Superman is about. Superman is a better inspiration than Batman because Superman inspires hope and good feelings in people. He gives them inner strength to find the good in themselves and stand together. Superman has always been about his continuing and developing relationship with humanity and the lengths he will go to keep them safe. Superman's main struggle has always been trying to achieve and become the perfect symbol for humanity to latch on to.
+Alexander Wang Gang i like them both because they both represent something good. batman represent the determined pursuit of true justice for those who deserve it and superman represents the equally determined struggle for the principles of hope , honesty and compassion that makes good men into great men.
+Lord Harbinger agreed, and he technically is over powered but its not a problem like everyone thinks, he kinda needs to be with the enemies he faces, and me personally i've never like batman, nothing that pisses me off about him or anything, just never been a fan
+Lord Harbinger I agree. He also want us to believe in something we wish we can do.
+deandre hollaway batman symbolizes the darkest of humanity and cynicism. Batman's origins share similarities w Superman but that's about it.
that is not necessarily true about batman. his father was a doctor who provide aid to people who couldn't afford regular treatment and his mother was a crusader against child abuse and it's because of that that batman fights spare others the same fate as him. both he and superman represent something good even though they both have their flaws. batman represent the unyielding pursuit of justice for those who deserve it and superman represents the equally unyielding struggle to uphold the virtues of honesty and compassion in the darkest and most difficult of times.
This movie truly is a master piece. from the graciously delivered dialogue to the epic fight scenes
Thanks zack for this gem and fuck all the haters
Absolutely
Hahahahaha your franchise HAS FAILED!! WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!
#DCEUsucks #DestroyTheSnyderverse
i knew my parents spelled my name wrong...sad face
Jerrel Carpio Close enough.
They were keeping your true identity a secret to protect you.
I will never forget this comment!
Damn 😹
Lol damn... I felt that literally😅
I kinda wish the suit that Jor El gave him didn't have a cape to it and Martha makes the cape out of the blanket that he arrived to Earth wrapped in.
That wouldn't be as ideal because he's supposed to do all sorts of crazy things that would cause cloth made by humans to tear up easily.
GFA Showcase The blanket wasn't from Earth
JeffTheDudeAbides Oh sorry, i misread.
GFA Showcase all good.
that would be awesome
Casting Russel Crowe as Jor-El was absolutley genius!
"Who are you?""
*My name is Jorelus EL Maximus Krptonius, Father to Superman,*
Lmao
Gold
“Husband to a murdered wife”
Krypotinus sound like a good name.
Or Kryptonimus.
Superman means hope, Batman means you're about to get the crap kicked out of you.
+Austin Smith Batman is a symbol of fear. The El-symbol means hope. However: Superman I think represents both hope and prosperety.
technically Batman represents Justice. Superman - Hope, Wonder Woman - Truth
Srikanth Menon Superman = Sionman
Angelus what's that?
Srikanth Menon The book of Sion is what a radical jewish fraction is following. It's called: zionism.
Incredible scene. The soundtrack as it builds up to Jor-El setting up the history lesson is perfection. This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie followed by my favorite: Superman takes Flight.
I love this portrayal of Jor-el in man of steel then in the 1978 film. I don't hate it.
+spideyfan2002
Yet that was exactly what this Superman was doing even before he meet Jor-El!
+spideyfan2002 Please, share with me your feelings about Man of Steel. I promise a civil discussion free of name-calling and fanboy douchebaggery.
+spideyfan2002 Okay, I'll start a conversation, if that's okay :)
I disagree with your point about Jor-El being a Hypocrite. He never forced Clark to be Superman. He didn't make him put the suit on. He didn't say that Clark had an obligation to do anything. Clark has a natural instinct and wanting to help people. He's been looking for answers all his life about who he is and who his parents were and why they sent him to Earth. And here, the Jor-El program is giving him the answers he's been seeking all his life. And he's been told that his family heritage is that of promoting goodness and hope. And again, he never told him "you have to" or "you must" or you will". He's giving him the chance to forge his destiny. Not because he was told to do it, but because it's what he wants to do. Jor -El kept saying "You CAN embody the best of both worlds." "Not IF you guide them, Kal." "Not IF you give them hope." "That's what you CAN bring them." It wasn't a command, it was a choice.
+spideyfan2002 Besides, Jor-El in the 1978 movie didn't give him much of a choice.
Marlon Brando had presence in that film. I simply don't feel
that in this film.
A showing that polar bear hop over from Ice to ice was better than the entire Justice League movie
It's the little things that count
The sadness of this scene is found in the inability to change and the hope that the last chance for change in found in the lost of everything that made you unique. The dialogue between jor-el and Kal-El is a mixture of sadness and redemption. Sadness in the kryptonians inability to change and the chance that Redemption can be found in Kal-El life on Earth.
Henry Cavill is an amazing actor
Pheromone his acting when he kills Zod was the best imo
The only movie in cinematic history that makes me cry like a 4 year old girl inside.
Clark stepping out in the Superman costume for the first time is such an epic image and Hans Zimmer's score really makes it feel like a real epic moment. The man of steel has officially arrived to take his place as earth's greatest hero.
3:50 Jor EL: You are as much the child of Earth now, as you are of Krypton. You can embody the best of both Worlds.
Also Jor EL: Look at the cool suit we made for ya. Wooooo!
It wasn’t specifically for Superman because the ship is thousands of years old. So it’s like an old family relic
This is the best you can get out of the Superman concept if you want to ground it in reality. A Sci-fi epic.
I love Kryptonian technology. The visual history of Krypton and its people is outstanding!
My hat off to whomever thought of and created the special effects in the background as Jor El describes the history of Krypton. Very original.
It always astonished me when I learnt people hated this movie, its arguable one of the best super hero movies to this date. To the action scenes to the movies soundtrack/score, it really is something else. Russel Crowe killed it as Jor EL too.
This movie will age very well
Russell Crowe acting is amazing. He nail it.
polar bears are the fiercest killers in the animal kingdom 😂
you are seeing to many Discovery Channel's
documentarys
He's referencing a crazy nut of a movie producer who wanted Kevin Smith to write a superman script where the villain fights a polar bear in the fortress of solitude.
Steve Brooks No hippos are
fuckin john peters...
and a giant spider
See, that mercurial kryptonian tech?!? WOULDN'T THAT HAVE BEEN A COOL WAY TO MAKE BRANIAC FOR DAWN OF JUSTICE!?!?!
*DOESN'T THAT MAKE SO MUCH MORE FUCKING SENSE THAN LEX LUTHOR CREATING DOOMSDAY!?!?!?!??!*
They need to just create a Man of Steel 2 and forget Batman v Superman even existed
This movie is a masterpiece IMO, never understood why people hated it so much
Fathers,, if they only knew how powerful their words are. It’s something about Dad’s, when a child hears how much their Dad believes in them and no matter what, they speak empowerment into their lives, it’s like, you feel you can take on the whole world. I tell my kids, “You were born to be great. You will be a better person than me. I believe in you. No matter what you face in life, I know you won’t fail. Whether I finish my journey with you or before you complete yours, I’m going to be cheering you on to victory.”
"Who are you?"
"My name, is Batman."
"I'm Batman"
My first viewing, I didn't pick up on scenes like these. Absolutely great scene, love Jor-El's message about hope.
Hmm there's an interesting thought, if the kryptonians spread out and explored the galaxies long ago in the past it's highly likely they encountered a yellow star at some point so there may have been other supermen who lived long before Kel-El on other alien worlds but with the same power. There could even be a colony somewhere filled with them. I'd love if they worked that into the story some day.
Perhaps they actually exist.
“To see you standing and grown into an adult. If only Lara could witness this.” My favorite quote of all time! It reminds me when I met my elementary teachers when they saw me as a young adult!
Apart from the Richard Donner movies and Superman the animated series where Jor-El was a quiet and peaceful scientist, most verisons of him in his AI form especially in Smallville made him this cold, emotionless figure who was always harsh towards his son and would constantly "punish" him. I like this version that they did for Man of Steel where there was a balance to his character, he was a kind and quiet man with a heart of a warrior who would do absolutely anything to protect the people he cares about. Russell Crowe delivered a fantastic performance and nailed it perfectly. His portrayal of Jor-El was superb and really came across as a true father figure who only wanted what was best for his son.
@ 2:40 is Richard Donner's Kal-El baby ship! Awesome movie!
That smile on his face when he learns his biological name.
This movie is HIGHLY underrated
At first when I saw Henry's new costume I didn't like it I was like "Where is his red underwear?" that not Superman. But after seeing the movie & really seeing the costume I had a change of heart I loved the new suit. I saw Superman's new suit in a comic & on an animated TV I realized Superman needed to change his suit up a bit.
He doesn't have the same presence as Brando but damn did Crowe do Jor'El justice.
Brando was good for the original Jor-El which was inspired by the early comics.This one is more modern.
Kal-El doesn't become Superman until the epilogue, when he's at the Daily Planet.
It’s ashame Jor-El’s ai was destroyed. It would’ve been awesome if we had scenes like this, with Jor-El talking about other parts of the dc universe, like Apokolips, Doomsday, or the Green lanterns, especially with this visually stunning manner of showing Kryptons history
This film is a lot better when re-watched. Actually quite a good film the second or third time watching it.
Kal-El: Did you program my mom into the system as well, so I can interact with her too?
Jor-El: Ahhh.....
Jor-El:...I did, son but I don't think you want to see images of your mom in the buff!
Here late 2019 and still one of my favourites
Anybody else notice that everything is mirrored, the "S" is backwards on the flag, Jor-els chest, supermans suit.
It's not in the movie backwards. For some reason it's reversed in this clip.
I'm glad alot of people are coming back to man of steel and seeing it for the great film it realy is. It's just a shame about the rest.
One of my regrets in life will always be not seeing this movie in theaters when it came out
Facts
I remember when I saw it in theaters. I was 10 years old, and I had no idea what was going on. It wasn't until Clark's first flight that it clicked in my head, "...Wait a minute, is this a Superman movie?"
Through the guidance of his biological dad and foster dad, Superman had taught to all of humanity the meaning of virtues.
“Oh and be careful, I think Zod sent his son to the next town over from you”
The DC universe had such a bright future at the stage......a squandered opportunity
a great film indeed
asianfireflie
That is an understatement! :)))
Gustav Ramirez one of the best films ever. john campea is right
asianfireflie
Indeed... Hence, we can look forward to DC's Cinematic Universe surpassing Marvel's in a couple of years! :)))
Gustav Ramirez the music score
i get goosebumps when jor-el told what the s was for and when the part when clark put on those glasses at the last scene
asianfireflie
Ah, yes, the Superman theme... I actually listen to it often on TH-cam, when I'm looking for inspiration.... I guess that it's sheer "epicness" and emotion are what truly depicts Superman as Earth's Greatest Hero! :))
4:40 "...but for first, don't forget to shave yourself before to wear that suit, because we have an iconography to keep..."
0:36 - "If only Lara could have witnessed this."
Um, she was likely pregnant for at least 9 months, what there was no time to copy her consciousness like yours too?
CCJJ160Channels you should watch HISHE man of steel
BlackLight 18 What's HISHE?
How It Should Have Ended
BlackLight 18 I'll check it out, thanks man!
Anytime
3:07 that question, and the questions in MOS and BVS amazing
Imagine if he was called “Hope man”
I like the scene when the world engine impacts and emitting smoke. Resembling human with his fabrics...
"What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society intended for him or her? What if a child aspired to something greater?"
That right there is the very essence of Superman
The actor who played superman Henry Cavill once participated in a film shot in his school in the UK as one of the crowd actors when he was just about 15 years old, and one of the actors was Russell Crowe. He asked Russell Crowe how to be an actor and Russell Crowe encouraged him and sent him some snacks, CD and his autograph. And now they are playing father and son in a blockbuster movie in Hollywood. How nice.
It would be amazing to make a advance civilization like this in real life! Also to have a top-sophisticated scientist and deeply compassionate father like him.
Apart from the fact the science in this film makes no damn sense at all even if it is fantastical it's nonsensical.
Doodlebugdude it can make sense if we are able to figure it out
Bryce Farmer The Krypton's explore the galaxy and then because they have stable population control they stop exploring the galaxy and then because of this it leads to a crisis and the core becomes unstable?
In the meantime the only scientist who thinks this might be a problem and who convientlally has the only child born in hundreds of years decides to send his child away.
Why is the general attacking the rulers when the planet is self destructing all around him?
Wouldn't it have made sense to evacuate the remaining inhabitants seeing as they had centuries of knowledge exploring other worlds as stated before?
The more the story unfolds the less sense it makes as the person writing it didn't follow it's own structure.
Bryce Farmer Kyptonions are the most stupid scientifically advanced race in the known galaxy.
Probably the best versions of Kal and Jor
How funny would it be if Kal-El's Earth name was Waldo? Would have made that scene with Zod in the beginning more fitting.
"You think your son is safe? I will find him. I will......find him. I WILL FIND HIM!!!!"
The idea that, just like in Smallville, Krypton knew about Earth and it's potential for being a home for their people, hence why they sent Kal / Clark to Earth. Just a tiny detail that adds to the lore that I like.
Loved this movie
They can be a great people, Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way.
I loved MoS. It was the best attempt at a Year One Story Line for Clark..... and then it was fucked up by BvS.
watch the ultimate edition
I watched all the bonus scenes when they were leaked. The scenes didn't do much to fix my overall gripes with the movie. Objectively it makes the movie flow a bit better, but I still can't bring myself to watch the movie again.
I waited a year then watched the UE. It's actually a good film and i was disappointed in the theatrical. Give it a try sometimes.
@@Rodan16 its still fucking trash & always will be
Man I wanted so badly for this to be his fortress of solitude for the next several movies. Oh well.
best movie..ever---
Wrong
Dear God, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.