Hɛvən my way is have a whole bunch of priest and have them convert lots to become cardinal and then become the majority in the college of cardinals and finally have a bunch of other faction cardinals assassinated Also send money gifts for good measure
One time I was at war with Denmark and they got their own Denmark Pope. Needless to say I got excommunicated pretty quickly and they even went to war with me. Now even though I'm a bad boy and cheating, I don't want to deal with this so I start trying to assassinate him, and they all fail. So eventually I request he forgives me and give me a load of cash, which they accept and ended up falling in love with me. Then some assassin I had on him actually killed him. Thankfully I picked my Pope candidate wisely and all was well
When I played twm2, the Pope died and my cardinal was elected as new pope, then black death kicked in, the pope is affected and we had to elect a new one, tho I had 15 cardinal to keep picking candidate from my own faction, the pope died three times in a row! Why people in medival period believe pope is sent by God if he is not immortal
@@joshc1981 Sassanids can be weakened so much by the white huns and allied hordes that the player doesn't even need to face them on the battlefield. I just grabbed their remianing cities the last time I played the game.
My best elite units: 5th: Dwarfs in Warrhamer 1&2 4th: Prussian Jaegars in ETW 3rd: Dismounted Conquistadores in MTW 2 2nd: Empire Knight from Warrhamer 1&2 1st: Spartan Hoplites in RTW1
Beastmen can technically be killed entirely. But it needs particular circumsitances. You have play as the Wood Elves and you have to upgrade the Oak of Ages to max level. And do the final battle against beastmen. After that, all the stacks spawned to attack the oak and any other beastmen armies located in the map are removed and beastmen are goners.
@@tqhung169 Yes you are, but its just like a short campaign victory for other races. You can go for world domination afterwards. (Its my way for all campaigns anyways)
I remember whe me and my friend played a Medival 2 hotseat. he played as france and I as teh HRE. we conquered, not all, but most catholic factions, and conquered rome. I actually managed to assasinate the pope with my asassin with a 1% sucess rate. so we wiped out the papal states and of course, a new pope gets elected and spawns outside rome, where our army of asassins were already waiting. we killed about 20+ popes until, it finally stopped. we notices we burned through every single cardinal that was left and noone actually recrouted any preasts to replace them. so, I think its technically possible to, effectively kill the papal states, without killing all christian factions, as long as you don´t recruit new priests and kill al priests the enemy is recrouting.
I think the thing is that they're actually quite a bit less immortal than almost any other faction. As he mentioned, almost any other major faction can return if their capitol rebels and the rebels manage to retake the city. Once the Warriors of Chaos are dead, there are no conditions in which they return.
Screaming Cactus yes but no other faction comes back within 3 turns if you don’t wipe out every single one of their legendary lords. Beast man take a bit but chaos u have to throw everything you have
Some time ago when I was playing the Mori on Very hard the Tokugawa actually took over the Oda clan and became a very powerful faction, owning everything between Owari and east-Kanto.... First time I saw the AI Tokugawa defeat the Oda....
In one of my favorite Medieval 2 games I was able to push the Pope out of Rome while remaining an ally and in good standing with the church. He just sort of wandered around my italic territories the rest of game. It was hilarious.
Rebel armies are always hilarious to me because they can summon a full stack of top tier infantry that are way better than what you can produce and they can do this with no money. So they must have some secret rebel lair where they have a maxed out tech tree and buildings underground right next to everyone of your territories. And your people LOVE them unconditionally. Chad Roman Rebels VS the Virgin Romans.
@Fatir Rifai Yes, and the papal guard is OP when you just spam them out, and you can just spam them out. EDIT: Also, nothing rebels no matter public order and you can control (but not create) the Inquisitors (though I think they do their own thing if left alone).
@@Self-replicating_whatnot good Lück with it. The Non Catholics suck the most time. Mostly because the mongols say Hello really early. And the arme rosters are very bad at the beginning
I once was playing as Hellebron and to my shock, Top Knotz turned up in the Norscan peninsula on the dark elf continent and occupied the last settlement with about 4-5 full stacks.
Self-replicating whatnot same here. Damn Top Knotz just appeared... in Ulthuan. I am still puzzled wtf and HOW they got there but first thing i noticed is that someone wiped out Tyrannoc... and then lookie there - Top Knotz!
Goddamnit!!! I legit wasted 40 turns trying to revive the Von Carsteins in my last ME campaign. I didn't know it was pointless. Well, now I know, thanks Legend.
You can bring him back, i think. You can only occupy Schwartzhaffen, get vampiric corruption below 20% and get it to revolt. You can only own Schwartzhaffen though, not the whole province
Oh my fucking God I hate Milan. I used to love exterminating all their settlements and slaughtering their armies so much because they would attack me with one unit all the time
Milan in Medieval 2 is by far the most annoying. They just attack everyone immediately due to a glitch in the game code. I’ll mention the Barbary Pirates from Empire, as well. Those guys are dicks. They torment everyone besides the Ottomans.
NOTE: Factions can come back in Medival 2: Heres how. You or the AI must remove all faction cities. This will disband the faction. A Prince / King must be roaming around. The game will call them by their title (prince/king) still just under the rebal faction. They roaming nobles army must not be destroyed If they retake one of their cities the faction will be restored. Instead of becoming a rebal town.
Are you sure, I've never seen this happen, once you take a factions last settlement they're removed from the game plus rebel armies cannot lay siege or attack settlements
I always chuckle like "oh god this again?" whenever I see Stirland has 3 settlements in the first few turns because I just know exactly what happened. *REEEEES in Vampire*
Surprised this list doesn't have "Every faction in Medieval 1." They all come back and with a vengeance! Also, from what I recall, the Holy Roman Empire can't die if you are the player because they elect a new emperor every time, even if you have no heirs. Been a while since I last played it, though.
top 5 faction AIs who almost always dominate their corner of the world not that you let them live long enough, but I mean something like egypt in Rome TW vanilla, who (almost) always takes their corner of the map
Note about number 4 in the Roman Rebels: barbarian owned cities of roman culture that revolt revert to Roman rule, not rebel rule. However, if, say, the Western Roman rebels exist, and the Western Roman empire is eliminated, the rebels become the western roman empire, and if their settlements revolt again, that's a new western Roman rebel faction, and so on and so on if it keeps happening. The same is true for the eastern empire and rebels
Regarding The Papal Snakes: Yes, hard to eliminate as I discovered while playing the Byzantines. So it's much easier to make them vassals. 1) Make sure they elect a weak Papa. If they choose a strong one then murder, death, kill! 2) Browbeat and/or bribe the weakling into bending the knee. If he stubbornly refuses to render unto Caesar, repeat step 1. 3) Always keep a strong army garrisoning Rome to deter any delusions Il Papa may have of regaining it. This is a good idea anyway, because that area is rebellion prone and Rome is an objective of many factions. Hire any and all mercs before he, or the rebels, do. Some Popes like to travel away from Rome, but this is generally harmless if you're powerful enough. So indulge them...let them become other factions' problem. 4) Remember-you can fool some of the Papal some of the time. /me shuts up now:)
Surprised Mysore from Empire didn’t make the cut. For a such a tiny faction they seem to always have 4 full stacks of troops that can take on anything you throw at them. For some reason I always need to have at least 3 full stack armies just to balance the battle.
I might be blind, because... I don't see the warriors of chaos on the list! The spawn with 4-5 doomstacks and in mortal empires I'm pretty sure they return quite a few times even if you kill them Not to mention all their vassals spawn with doomstacks and then there's norsca attacking every coastal area... They are capable of razing half the world to the ground unless the player steps in early on...
Yeah, you're correct. Chaos is in fact very similar to the Huns from ATTILA, if not worse. Norsca is also very high on annoying "immortal" list, because it's very difficult to actually wipe them from the game (Warhammer I), it is basically a chase around the map of razing and recapturing settlements. Say you're the Empire, you usually don't want to send all your army stacks against Norsca, there is always a front somewhere else with more priority.
My strategy for atilla was always to max fortify the settlements nearest to where they strike then leave 2-3 legions on the border. In settlement defenses it normally wasn't hard to inflict massive casualties compared to your outnumbered forces by chokepointing with testudos. In 3 legendary campaigns I ran the Huns only managed to burn 2 settlements I owned before they were wiped out so they are manageable if you prepare for them correctly
Just a note on the Von Carstein faction, while it is indeed the least immortal faction in TWWH1 and 2 the legendary lords themselves: Vlad and Isabella can still return as part of Manfred's Vampire Counts faction. Just as when you play either faction as the player you can recruit all legendary lords from both factions.
3:17 Octavian’s Rome does this constantly in Rome II Imperator Augustus. It’s super fucking annoying. I make it a point to kill Octavian first in a lot of my play throughs, yet he still comes back in Gaul if there’s a revolt.
Beating Yuan Shao as Sun Jian was a pain in the ass. Once you get to him, you will need a very strong coalition to help you out with him, while you need to fight on 3 fronts with his vassals, and if you ignore them like i did, they suddenly get a lot stronger and create stacks of armies. Gongsun Zan was basically having 2 stacks of full armies march into my territory while: -2 of mine were finishing off Lu Bu -1 was colonizing the southern territories of the map -3 were attacking Yuan Shao And i didn't have the money to get new ones. Then, i got Emperor, with my vassal Zhang Yan and my ally Cao Cao being my rivals. Zhang Yan was my vassal, and as he can't be as an Emperor, he declared war on me(good that the 3 armies with Yuan Shao were there). He was extremely weak comparing to me, but i still had Yuan Shao as my enemy. I needed to peace out, but as now i had more enemies, the balance of power shifted and i needed to give up very big money to make peace with Yuan Shao so i can focus on Zhang Yan. Then... well then i need to play it more because it's as far as i got in my playthrough. So, fighting Yuan Shao is like fighting a small frightened but extremely venomous spider. First, you fear him, then you attack him and feel like you won, but he then gives a signal to his vassals and you don't stomp on him but on his vassal. Then he wants to bite you, and you don't feel so good about the war anymore. And then the cycle repeats. You spend HOURS on beating a faction that's allied strength is inferior to yours.
scythia is the immortal faction before faction immortality, there weren’t revivable non-rebel factions, no hordes, nothing, all general are on the map, when they all die they are wiped out, when all territory is taken they are wiped out, but still they survive. they have a quadruple back-up system, there are 2-4 factions or 2-4 invasion fronts from a faction that surrounds it fully needed to kill it, they are a pain for the brutii
i don't know if this is true or not, but i have once read it on internet. It's regarding whether vlad von carstein can reappear as a revolt force and come back to the game. It's said that a wiped out faction will revolt at its designated settlement (for example schwartzhafen for von carstein) only if its a normal revolt force, instead of vampire or chaos revolt. That's why its very hard for von carstein to reappear as rebel, because Schwartzhafen almost always has very high vampiric corruption and as a result never has a 'normal' rebel force, instead always has vampire rebel...
Great video Legend how about one that will really split people, top five generals bodyguard. Really get people into the stat lists going Western Roman do two more damage, ya but Eastern has two more armour. I think it would be interesting.
I know it's a bit old, but the papal state in Medieval 1 is one of the most immoral factions. If wiped out, it will return with 2-3 stacks every 2-3 turns.
I forgot it's name.... The south-most Castle on Hokkaido in the TW:S2 FotS Campaign. Starts on a very high level, can't be reached over land, the Matsumae who own it have a pretty strong fleet at the beginning.
The Mung in TWW2, above the Dark Elves. Their province stretches over three southward provinces, allowing them to harass the DElves from multiple angles. It's extremely difficult to hunt down and destroy them due to the intense chaos corruption and the wide-spaced cities, and on top of that they seem to reappear later in the game even when exterminated.
Huh, I’ll have to do a no pope run in Medieval 2, didn’t realise you could completely get rid of him. When I took the whole map with France I just had him trapped between two mountains with armies at either end and sent in assassins to kill him if he ever went against me
so you are telling me that in descr_strat file i can put papal stats as playable? i was about to do that but i have read somewhere that it' not recomended, the game can become buggy, glitchy, or crashes can accurs
MaximusOfCaceres not really the papal states play smoothly when unlocked only odd thing is that when requesting a crusade the Pope will sometimes refuse it but you are the Pope so that is a bit immersion breaking
Playing with Malekith on legendary. Morathi had wipe out and I want her back. Will try now make a rebellion in her home city. Thanks for the tip Legend 👍
Rome Total war Barbarian Invasion's entry should be the Roxolanii. They get a bunch of territory and then when you defeat all of that territory they horde up and scatter across Russia (which of course has no roads for you to chase them with) and you have to go on a massive wild goose chase for half of the game to really defeat them
Actually a civil revolt can occasionally resurrect a faction if say the settlement in question is within the of the extinct people's homeland. (I.e. Pontus)
I usually give Antioch to the Papal States once mongols invaded from Baghdad, they will spam a nice army in a few turns, and manage to give a somehow forceful blow to at least one of the mongol armies.
The maratha confederacy and/or the mughal empire from TW empire should be on this list...they are almost always the first to become a huge empire and they will declare war on you and send 2-3 stacks to invade you whether you are in the Caribbean, north america or europe...and they almost always have the largest most powerful fleets pretty early on
If the WRE are eliminated while the WRR still exist, the rebels become the empire! If they then suffer a rebellion, those rebels then become the new WRR. Rare occurance but I saw it once in my youth. The faction changed color and name, there even was a popup and everything.
It seems that hight population in the region prevent beast men and rogue armies apparition If it’s true, you can technically destroy them by conquering every region in the game and raising the population to the maximum But even if it’s true it still deserve the first place in this top because it’s very long to achieve
I know this isn't related to this but I conquered the entire map in rtw as the britons in 249bc on very hard difficulty,and 100% of that I was only using chariots lol(small scale tho,lost a few generals to tragedy at sea and,of course,Egypt.Other than that,no other faction even provided a challenge to me tho lol.Except for the amazons) Edit:I lost 15 generals in total till the end of the game,now I'm doing a no death run,where none of my generals die.Hope I succeed:) Edit2:Its on the same run,but since 266bc,since that's the only save that I've got that doesn't have dead generals besides the beginning.Also,is there maybe a special ending,where u don't lose a single battle,or a single general?I'm curious.Also,the reason that I played with the britons instead of Egypt:They have way better chariots(their chariots can hide in forests due to their small size,good for ambushes),they can also recruit them faster(1 turn instead of 2 for Egypt,thus providing a faster army growth),they get egyptian light chariots first,which can shoot,unlike Egypt,which gets the regular ones,that can't shoot.They can also construct a blacksmith a lot faster,due to the requirements(2nd level city instead of 3rd for Egypt).So,yeah.The britons have a lot of strenghts,that Egypt doesn't have.The only thing that they suck against are phalanxes.And horse archers.Literally the only 2 things lol(well,besides other chariots of course.Egypt is also pretty op)
I usually will give the Papal States a territory near the edge of the map like Arabia and it will prevent them from respawning in Rome and makes them irrelevant.
The Skaven feel immortal, you can only stop them at the source and shouldnt be given a chance, plus with technology research and certain structures they will restore their army to nearly full but early on when playing as the skaven a number of neighbors will consider you as a threat
One mistake though. When the western or eastern roman empire dies, the rebels become the new eastern or western roman empire. so in a sense every roman faction in barbarian invasian can be revived.
Wish HRE from Medieval 1 got a shoutout. There were the only faction in the original game that couldn't be regicided. If they lost all their family members a random emperor would be appointed, reflecting the nature of the empire being a puppet of the rest of europe.
*kills each new Pope five times in a row*
Papal States: Tis but a scratch!
@Maintenance Renegade played HRE campaign recently, had a bunch of assassins around Rome in case the pope excommunicates my king :)
Hɛvən my way is have a whole bunch of priest and have them convert lots to become cardinal and then become the majority in the college of cardinals and finally have a bunch of other faction cardinals assassinated
Also send money gifts for good measure
One time I was at war with Denmark and they got their own Denmark Pope.
Needless to say I got excommunicated pretty quickly and they even went to war with me.
Now even though I'm a bad boy and cheating, I don't want to deal with this so I start trying to assassinate him, and they all fail.
So eventually I request he forgives me and give me a load of cash, which they accept and ended up falling in love with me.
Then some assassin I had on him actually killed him. Thankfully I picked my Pope candidate wisely and all was well
When I played twm2, the Pope died and my cardinal was elected as new pope, then black death kicked in, the pope is affected and we had to elect a new one, tho I had 15 cardinal to keep picking candidate from my own faction, the pope died three times in a row! Why people in medival period believe pope is sent by God if he is not immortal
I killed 20 popes consecutively and they still didn't die out...
Top 5 loading screen quotes
Let the boy win his spurs
They are all gonna be in medieval 2
What you need to win a war: money,money and money
(That’s a quote from Rome)
@@koikarp3490 don't forget shogun 2
@@alexwalker4177 it was a joke...
Going to guess the Huns are on this list.
i was going to say that
I was kinda hoping it was just the huns 5 times
Id rather say the sassnids in attlia who somehow manage to print full stack armys like paper
Josh C i know but they arent immortal just though to beat although good armies and time Will see you through
@@joshc1981 Sassanids can be weakened so much by the white huns and allied hordes that the player doesn't even need to face them on the battlefield. I just grabbed their remianing cities the last time I played the game.
top 5 underrated factions in total war
top 5 elite units in total war
top 5 most challenging faction in total war " Im looking at you Usage"
3 is cheating
Second one is good idea forsure
My best elite units:
5th: Dwarfs in Warrhamer 1&2
4th: Prussian Jaegars in ETW
3rd: Dismounted Conquistadores in MTW 2
2nd: Empire Knight from Warrhamer 1&2
1st: Spartan Hoplites in RTW1
@@MsSirAndy OHHH good list. 85% with you on it
Empire Knight aren't that good
@@MsSirAndy Infanterie de Marine from Shogun2 FOTS?
Beastmen can technically be killed entirely. But it needs particular circumsitances. You have play as the Wood Elves and you have to upgrade the Oak of Ages to max level. And do the final battle against beastmen. After that, all the stacks spawned to attack the oak and any other beastmen armies located in the map are removed and beastmen are goners.
if this make beastmen goners then i will have boners
But dont you win the campaign after that final battle?
@@tqhung169 Yes you are, but its just like a short campaign victory for other races. You can go for world domination afterwards. (Its my way for all campaigns anyways)
But they're such good cheap xp because they suck 🍑. 😜
I remember whe me and my friend played a Medival 2 hotseat. he played as france and I as teh HRE. we conquered, not all, but most catholic factions, and conquered rome.
I actually managed to assasinate the pope with my asassin with a 1% sucess rate.
so we wiped out the papal states and of course, a new pope gets elected and spawns outside rome, where our army of asassins were already waiting.
we killed about 20+ popes until, it finally stopped.
we notices we burned through every single cardinal that was left and noone actually recrouted any preasts to replace them.
so, I think its technically possible to, effectively kill the papal states, without killing all christian factions, as long as you don´t recruit new priests and kill al priests the enemy is recrouting.
I was expecting chaos to be here since it’s very specific conditions to completely wipe them out including their vassals of the Norse men
Yeah I was really surprised Chaos wasn't on the list
I think the thing is that they're actually quite a bit less immortal than almost any other faction. As he mentioned, almost any other major faction can return if their capitol rebels and the rebels manage to retake the city. Once the Warriors of Chaos are dead, there are no conditions in which they return.
Screaming Cactus yes but no other faction comes back within 3 turns if you don’t wipe out every single one of their legendary lords. Beast man take a bit but chaos u have to throw everything you have
James Yates They are difficult to kill yes but not immortal
James Yates if you wipe out Archaon and Sarthoriel then both Warriors and Slaves/Servants of Chaos stop spawning new stacks.
The Huns: You can't win, Rome. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
I wonder if "Clan Destroyed: Tokugawa" would wind up on an opposite version of this list? :)
Top Five Factions That Always Dies? I'd watch that. (Also, WRE would totally be on that list.)
*cries in Seleucid*
Some time ago when I was playing the Mori on Very hard the Tokugawa actually took over the Oda clan and became a very powerful faction, owning everything between Owari and east-Kanto....
First time I saw the AI Tokugawa defeat the Oda....
Basically canon event
I am a simple man: I see the Black Knight, I like.
@@pooroldman5089 *Muh me smart*
Top 5 New historical periods
Please do this
Total War Warhammer 3: The End time. Best historical period.
Russian Bear I’m pretty sure you’re wrong
@@tomh4754 have you any proof for me boi
@@tomh4754 Sounds like something a heretic would say.
In one of my favorite Medieval 2 games I was able to push the Pope out of Rome while remaining an ally and in good standing with the church. He just sort of wandered around my italic territories the rest of game. It was hilarious.
In the first Medieval Total War, factions would re-emerge all the time.
Just like in Empire total war
@@benjaminpalma1465 Id love Empire more than M2 if it wasnt for its bullshit; high quality stack spawning rebellion system.
Rebel armies are always hilarious to me because they can summon a full stack of top tier infantry that are way better than what you can produce and they can do this with no money. So they must have some secret rebel lair where they have a maxed out tech tree and buildings underground right next to everyone of your territories. And your people LOVE them unconditionally. Chad Roman Rebels VS the Virgin Romans.
Surely the number 1 spot should be rebels
Actually, pirates from Empire.
Also, the Papal States never have revolts, you can put a city on V-high taxes with no garrison at all and it wont rebel.
@Fatir Rifai it's a very very very easy edit.
@Fatir Rifai Yes, and the papal guard is OP when you just spam them out, and you can just spam them out.
EDIT: Also, nothing rebels no matter public order and you can control (but not create) the Inquisitors (though I think they do their own thing if left alone).
This is very interesting, I never knew this
Makes me want to play as not christians and bulldoze the fuckers no matter the cost.
@@Self-replicating_whatnot good Lück with it. The Non Catholics suck the most time. Mostly because the mongols say Hello really early. And the arme rosters are very bad at the beginning
I once was playing as Hellebron and to my shock, Top Knotz turned up in the Norscan peninsula on the dark elf continent and occupied the last settlement with about 4-5 full stacks.
That's so orky. They themselves probably don't know how they got there.
Self-replicating whatnot same here. Damn Top Knotz just appeared... in Ulthuan. I am still puzzled wtf and HOW they got there but first thing i noticed is that someone wiped out Tyrannoc... and then lookie there - Top Knotz!
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The Papal States in Medieval 1: Viking Invasions was pretty indestructible... great game
They usually come back within 3-10 turns off being wiped, with a fairly modern army. So I agree with this.
Was hoping to see Medieval 1’s Papal States given a shout. Because they come back even with no Catholic factions.
Goddamnit!!! I legit wasted 40 turns trying to revive the Von Carsteins in my last ME campaign. I didn't know it was pointless. Well, now I know, thanks Legend.
You can bring him back, i think. You can only occupy Schwartzhaffen, get vampiric corruption below 20% and get it to revolt. You can only own Schwartzhaffen though, not the whole province
Top 5 Petty Factions to play (very minor, or very bitchy to their neighbours).
Milan is all 5
Oh my fucking God I hate Milan. I used to love exterminating all their settlements and slaughtering their armies so much because they would attack me with one unit all the time
Milan in Medieval 2 is by far the most annoying. They just attack everyone immediately due to a glitch in the game code.
I’ll mention the Barbary Pirates from Empire, as well. Those guys are dicks. They torment everyone besides the Ottomans.
I never see milan backstabing in action because I always play as milan :)
Agreed on Milan.
Best Total War TH-camr worldwide. Greetings from Germany
NOTE: Factions can come back in Medival 2:
Heres how.
You or the AI must remove all faction cities. This will disband the faction. A Prince / King must be roaming around.
The game will call them by their title (prince/king) still just under the rebal faction. They roaming nobles army must not be destroyed
If they retake one of their cities the faction will be restored. Instead of becoming a rebal town.
Are you sure, I've never seen this happen, once you take a factions last settlement they're removed from the game plus rebel armies cannot lay siege or attack settlements
@@thehypest6118 you could test it anyway
@@bestwind4618 it's quite literally impossible though, Rebel armies cannot lay siege, they cannot retake settlements
The Hypest rebels do besiege cities but only on higher difficulty levels in medieval 2
I always chuckle like "oh god this again?" whenever I see Stirland has 3 settlements in the first few turns because I just know exactly what happened.
*REEEEES in Vampire*
You're the man, love this series! Damn... Almost first...
Surprised this list doesn't have "Every faction in Medieval 1." They all come back and with a vengeance!
Also, from what I recall, the Holy Roman Empire can't die if you are the player because they elect a new emperor every time, even if you have no heirs. Been a while since I last played it, though.
top 5 faction AIs who almost always dominate their corner of the world
not that you let them live long enough, but I mean something like egypt in Rome TW vanilla, who (almost) always takes their corner of the map
Well Malekith should be first or second place, he always take all his corner no matter what lol, and then procedd to atack Ulthuam
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I'm surprised the Wako pirates from Shogun II aren't here, they can't be eliminated even if you take every settlement.
And they can capture, but not repair, the black ship.
Thats because they have an off map settlement somewhere on the west coast of korea.. With some cheating, you can capture it though.
How about top 5 most challenging Campaign Events in TW games!?
Wako pirates should be N1...or at least an honorable mention since they can not die:)
Great video as always!
Note about number 4 in the Roman Rebels: barbarian owned cities of roman culture that revolt revert to Roman rule, not rebel rule. However, if, say, the Western Roman rebels exist, and the Western Roman empire is eliminated, the rebels become the western roman empire, and if their settlements revolt again, that's a new western Roman rebel faction, and so on and so on if it keeps happening. The same is true for the eastern empire and rebels
This was a very interesting video. Thanks legend!
Regarding The Papal Snakes:
Yes, hard to eliminate as I discovered while playing the Byzantines. So it's much easier to make them vassals.
1) Make sure they elect a weak Papa. If they choose a strong one then murder, death, kill!
2) Browbeat and/or bribe the weakling into bending the knee. If he stubbornly refuses to render unto Caesar, repeat step 1.
3) Always keep a strong army garrisoning Rome to deter any delusions Il Papa may have of regaining it. This is a good idea anyway, because that area is rebellion prone and Rome is an objective of many factions. Hire any and all mercs before he, or the rebels, do.
Some Popes like to travel away from Rome, but this is generally harmless if you're powerful enough. So indulge them...let them become other factions' problem.
4) Remember-you can fool some of the Papal some of the time.
/me shuts up now:)
I like the idea that the romans are so advanced comparatively in Barbarian Invasion that even their rebels are a cut above and can unite and build
Top 5 Mortal Factions, you almost never meet them as they die so easy.
scottland in medievil 2. Never survive after turn 20.
Carthage in Rome 1 if you play as anyone except the Scipiones or Spanish and the Seleucids if you play as anyone West of the Brutii.
@@shadowno2298 Scotland has survived many times in my gameplay by conquering parts of Scandinavia or Bruges
Great Top 5 as always Legend!
I don't play TW Warhammer 1 or 2 and won't play 3 i'm sure, so I didn't know any of those...Interesting...
Top 5 Most powerful units in total war.
Love your videos but one of my favourite parts is the change in graphics between the different games! Its awesome how good they are becoming
top 5 strongest rogue armies in total war Warhammer 2
Surprised Mysore from Empire didn’t make the cut. For a such a tiny faction they seem to always have 4 full stacks of troops that can take on anything you throw at them. For some reason I always need to have at least 3 full stack armies just to balance the battle.
I might be blind, because...
I don't see the warriors of chaos on the list!
The spawn with 4-5 doomstacks and in mortal empires I'm pretty sure they return quite a few times even if you kill them
Not to mention all their vassals spawn with doomstacks and then there's norsca attacking every coastal area...
They are capable of razing half the world to the ground unless the player steps in early on...
Yeah, you're correct. Chaos is in fact very similar to the Huns from ATTILA, if not worse.
Norsca is also very high on annoying "immortal" list, because it's very difficult to actually wipe them from the game (Warhammer I), it is basically a chase around the map of razing and recapturing settlements. Say you're the Empire, you usually don't want to send all your army stacks against Norsca, there is always a front somewhere else with more priority.
Pope farming is fun in Medeval II.
My strategy for atilla was always to max fortify the settlements nearest to where they strike then leave 2-3 legions on the border. In settlement defenses it normally wasn't hard to inflict massive casualties compared to your outnumbered forces by chokepointing with testudos. In 3 legendary campaigns I ran the Huns only managed to burn 2 settlements I owned before they were wiped out so they are manageable if you prepare for them correctly
This reminds me of a game mechanic I liked - how in Medieval 1, factions would return with the emergence of a new family member.
Can you do a Top 5 Most fun Total War games?
The Plains Nation in Empire, because no one can be arsed to walk all the way across the map to conquer them.
Just a note on the Von Carstein faction, while it is indeed the least immortal faction in TWWH1 and 2 the legendary lords themselves: Vlad and Isabella can still return as part of Manfred's Vampire Counts faction. Just as when you play either faction as the player you can recruit all legendary lords from both factions.
Don't you have to confederate?
I think you'd have to confederate them first
3:17 Octavian’s Rome does this constantly in Rome II Imperator Augustus. It’s super fucking annoying. I make it a point to kill Octavian first in a lot of my play throughs, yet he still comes back in Gaul if there’s a revolt.
Beating Yuan Shao as Sun Jian was a pain in the ass. Once you get to him, you will need a very strong coalition to help you out with him, while you need to fight on 3 fronts with his vassals, and if you ignore them like i did, they suddenly get a lot stronger and create stacks of armies. Gongsun Zan was basically having 2 stacks of full armies march into my territory while:
-2 of mine were finishing off Lu Bu
-1 was colonizing the southern territories of the map
-3 were attacking Yuan Shao
And i didn't have the money to get new ones. Then, i got Emperor, with my vassal Zhang Yan and my ally Cao Cao being my rivals. Zhang Yan was my vassal, and as he can't be as an Emperor, he declared war on me(good that the 3 armies with Yuan Shao were there). He was extremely weak comparing to me, but i still had Yuan Shao as my enemy. I needed to peace out, but as now i had more enemies, the balance of power shifted and i needed to give up very big money to make peace with Yuan Shao so i can focus on Zhang Yan. Then... well then i need to play it more because it's as far as i got in my playthrough. So, fighting Yuan Shao is like fighting a small frightened but extremely venomous spider. First, you fear him, then you attack him and feel like you won, but he then gives a signal to his vassals and you don't stomp on him but on his vassal. Then he wants to bite you, and you don't feel so good about the war anymore. And then the cycle repeats. You spend HOURS on beating a faction that's allied strength is inferior to yours.
lemme guess... chaos and beastmen are gonna be here.
scythia is the immortal faction before faction immortality, there weren’t revivable non-rebel factions, no hordes, nothing, all general are on the map, when they all die they are wiped out, when all territory is taken they are wiped out, but still they survive. they have a quadruple back-up system, there are 2-4 factions or 2-4 invasion fronts from a faction that surrounds it fully needed to kill it, they are a pain for the brutii
i don't know if this is true or not, but i have once read it on internet. It's regarding whether vlad von carstein can reappear as a revolt force and come back to the game.
It's said that a wiped out faction will revolt at its designated settlement (for example schwartzhafen for von carstein) only if its a normal revolt force, instead of vampire or chaos revolt. That's why its very hard for von carstein to reappear as rebel, because Schwartzhafen almost always has very high vampiric corruption and as a result never has a 'normal' rebel force, instead always has vampire rebel...
I might be wrong, but can't the Roman rebels in BI become the Empire if the main faction is destroyed?
correct
KingofSpoons64 wow I’ve never had that happen cool feature
It's the Orange Horde in Empire: Total War.
These thumbnails are awesome.
Great video Legend how about one that will really split people, top five generals bodyguard. Really get people into the stat lists going Western Roman do two more damage, ya but Eastern has two more armour. I think it would be interesting.
I know it's a bit old, but the papal state in Medieval 1 is one of the most immoral factions. If wiped out, it will return with 2-3 stacks every 2-3 turns.
Top 5 Most Difficult Cities to Take
(i.e. ridiculous siege bonuses, choke point makes it difficult to even get to the city)
I forgot it's name.... The south-most Castle on Hokkaido in the TW:S2 FotS Campaign. Starts on a very high level, can't be reached over land, the Matsumae who own it have a pretty strong fleet at the beginning.
Constantinople
The Mung in TWW2, above the Dark Elves. Their province stretches over three southward provinces, allowing them to harass the DElves from multiple angles. It's extremely difficult to hunt down and destroy them due to the intense chaos corruption and the wide-spaced cities, and on top of that they seem to reappear later in the game even when exterminated.
Huh, I’ll have to do a no pope run in Medieval 2, didn’t realise you could completely get rid of him. When I took the whole map with France I just had him trapped between two mountains with armies at either end and sent in assassins to kill him if he ever went against me
6:36 loved how he uses France as an example 😂😂😂
darkness will always return - Sigmar the first emperor .well he was right on the beastmen.
RISE beastmen brothers ! We are finaly first at something !
Everyone was like the huns are no1 when they see the title
so you are telling me that in descr_strat file i can put papal stats as playable? i was about to do that but i have read somewhere that it' not recomended, the game can become buggy, glitchy, or crashes can accurs
MaximusOfCaceres not really the papal states play smoothly when unlocked
only odd thing is that when requesting a crusade the Pope will sometimes refuse it but you are the Pope so that is a bit immersion breaking
MaximusOfCaceres could you give me a link to the aztecs unlock trick
since I want to do that too
@@MaximusOfCaceres thank you very much
3:00 I'm pretty sure the rebels can return as well.
Malekith when he has the sword of Khaine
Top 5 Generals, can also be general bodyguard units.
Yo in RTW Numidia captured a settlement and the next turn it automativally turned mine with a full stack garrison, How is this ???
Playing with Malekith on legendary. Morathi had wipe out and I want her back. Will try now make a rebellion in her home city. Thanks for the tip Legend 👍
Bloody epic thumbnail mate 😂😂
What about the Pirates in Empire Total War?
You missed every faction from Medieval 1, all of which can return from the dead
Rome Total war Barbarian Invasion's entry should be the Roxolanii. They get a bunch of territory and then when you defeat all of that territory they horde up and scatter across Russia (which of course has no roads for you to chase them with) and you have to go on a massive wild goose chase for half of the game to really defeat them
Actually a civil revolt can occasionally resurrect a faction if say the settlement in question is within the of the extinct people's homeland. (I.e. Pontus)
I usually give Antioch to the Papal States once mongols invaded from Baghdad, they will spam a nice army in a few turns, and manage to give a somehow forceful blow to at least one of the mongol armies.
Beastmen need more love from the devs...
But at least playing as them is a nice challenge 😉
The maratha confederacy and/or the mughal empire from TW empire should be on this list...they are almost always the first to become a huge empire and they will declare war on you and send 2-3 stacks to invade you whether you are in the Caribbean, north america or europe...and they almost always have the largest most powerful fleets pretty early on
Topknotz : " WE IZ ALIVE ! "
So hard to get rid of Ork spores.
One day one of these lists won't end with a Warhammer faction, and no one will know what the fuck to do.
Top 5 Mercenarys? I don't give up
Liked just for the thumbnail.
The top knotz break my spine sometimes by randomly declaring war / taking one of my undefended settlements /: hate em with a passion
If the WRE are eliminated while the WRR still exist, the rebels become the empire! If they then suffer a rebellion, those rebels then become the new WRR. Rare occurance but I saw it once in my youth. The faction changed color and name, there even was a popup and everything.
It seems that hight population in the region prevent beast men and rogue armies apparition
If it’s true, you can technically destroy them by conquering every region in the game and raising the population to the maximum
But even if it’s true it still deserve the first place in this top because it’s very long to achieve
The huns the goddamm huns
I know this isn't related to this but I conquered the entire map in rtw as the britons in 249bc on very hard difficulty,and 100% of that I was only using chariots lol(small scale tho,lost a few generals to tragedy at sea and,of course,Egypt.Other than that,no other faction even provided a challenge to me tho lol.Except for the amazons)
Edit:I lost 15 generals in total till the end of the game,now I'm doing a no death run,where none of my generals die.Hope I succeed:)
Edit2:Its on the same run,but since 266bc,since that's the only save that I've got that doesn't have dead generals besides the beginning.Also,is there maybe a special ending,where u don't lose a single battle,or a single general?I'm curious.Also,the reason that I played with the britons instead of Egypt:They have way better chariots(their chariots can hide in forests due to their small size,good for ambushes),they can also recruit them faster(1 turn instead of 2 for Egypt,thus providing a faster army growth),they get egyptian light chariots first,which can shoot,unlike Egypt,which gets the regular ones,that can't shoot.They can also construct a blacksmith a lot faster,due to the requirements(2nd level city instead of 3rd for Egypt).So,yeah.The britons have a lot of strenghts,that Egypt doesn't have.The only thing that they suck against are phalanxes.And horse archers.Literally the only 2 things lol(well,besides other chariots of course.Egypt is also pretty op)
I usually will give the Papal States a territory near the edge of the map like Arabia and it will prevent them from respawning in Rome and makes them irrelevant.
Egypt on rome 1should be here, even with me trying to cheat for the other factions in the area it sometimes doesn't work.
Jeez, trying to finish off Egypt is like chasing rats with a hammer. They're tough and they spread like a virus.
Al Lewis Aye good point. Running amok with Nubians and the easy to kill chariots 😂
The Skaven feel immortal, you can only stop them at the source and shouldnt be given a chance, plus with technology research and certain structures they will restore their army to nearly full but early on when playing as the skaven a number of neighbors will consider you as a threat
Top 5 Total War Mods would be fun
What about the generic rebel faction, those buggers seem pretty immortal to me.
Could you do a Top 5 defensive units, or even factions?
Oda Long Yari Ashigaru. Dont attack. Just pair them with Bow-War monks and see the enemy die while charging the Yari Wall
Knights of Origo in TWW2. Just kidding. "Defensive" bastards always declare war on you and start annoying you
Liked for the monty python reference..
The roman empires can come back too, if a roman empire revolts city revolts it reverts back to the empire
Great Thumbnail!!!!!
One mistake though. When the western or eastern roman empire dies, the rebels become the new eastern or western roman empire. so in a sense every roman faction in barbarian invasian can be revived.
Wish HRE from Medieval 1 got a shoutout. There were the only faction in the original game that couldn't be regicided. If they lost all their family members a random emperor would be appointed, reflecting the nature of the empire being a puppet of the rest of europe.