This is your best "top x" video yet. Great editing. Informative commentary, with little to no stumbling on your words. And of course, the content itself is interesting, and helpful (as usual). These videos may be difficult for you to make, but the effort really shows, and it's awesome to see the progress you've made. Good job, my dude.
Scipio Africhungus Agree, such a noticeable improvement in quality, I remember in one of the first ones of these we had to convince Legend to use at least some random footage or like trailers of the game he’s talking about in top5 and he was like “nah that’s too much work mate” and now you see this relevant, edited, high quality footage. Turns out putting in effort pays off ;}
"They tend to not use the underway" Meanwhile in my Empire campaign, a Skullsmasher army attacks through the Southern Grey Mountains instead of attacking Helmgart head on
Happened to me too. Was just lucky they jumped right next to uberstreik, so the Army in Helmgart was able to defeat them. But these Orcs are really a pain in the ass.
I always found Repanse's start to be the easiest in the entire game. She starts with a landmark port that generates lots of money... She has 2 human cities right next door that both love her. You can get non-aggression + trade + military access, maybe even defense pact all right at the start. As soon as you beat your very first enemy, one of them wants to confederate. So you start with 1 city, occupy 2 more, confederate 2 more, and there are 2 ruins you can colonize. You get tons of land really quickly. Also, tomb kings tend to be pushovers for the most part, aside from the few armies that have intensely strong units like Settra's warsphinx. The rest just fall over. What is even better is you can send a lord without an army across the sea to discover tilea + all the brettonia factions and by the time it discovers them all, you will have finished your research projects that grant +100 diplomatic relations with every one of the confederable factions and +50 to all other human factions like tilea and the empire to secure tons of powerful allies right off and start mass confederation. Unless most races, your confederation grants public order instead of taking away from it, and you can do it rapidly to acquire those extra lands. Your only neighbors in brettonia are one settlement of orcs and 1-2 settlements of vampire counts in the form of red duke, and then 1 settlement for kemmler, you can wipe out the only enemies you have almost immediately and everyone else in the area loves the hell out of you. You expand faster than any other faction possible I think because of constant confederations and just such a strong start and weak enemies. By turn 30, you control a quarter of the world, have military alliances with another quarter, and can all work together to rapidly crush the greenskins and skaven. And, because of your diplo bonuses to elves and lizardmen, you can make military alliances with all of them as well. After a very short stint wiping out tomb kings, then helping allies mop up orcs, the only enemy left to fight is the dark elves. It is actually nuts how fast Repanse snowballs into a world superpower.
Should try Clan Skyre. It was the first campaign where I conquered the entire world just because it was so much fun. They don't get the easy free expansions like Repanse, but after I take over estalia and tilea, I head straight to africa to conquer those weak skeletons for ridiculous sums of money. And by the time you head back to europe, you have numerous stacks of ranged infantry that can shred much larger armies with ease. Ratling guns and jezzails and artillery, its so so sweet.
Although I agree that snikch has a pretty easy start, I think you forgot about the lizardmen on the south. In two of my campaigns with clan Eshin They've declared war on me and immediately attacked my south settlements. Now hopefully by the time they attack you would have dealt with the greenskins, but if you are at war with the dwarves they can be a bit of a pain in the ass
Legend didn’t mention Warpgrinders as Clan Skryre, but if you should bring as many as your micro allows, IMO. Fully upgraded Warpgrinders are unbreakable, have regeneration, and annihilate elite infantry, cavalry, and chariots with over 110 AP WS on like 33 MA. Seismic Snare also acts as an even better Expert Charge Defense for its duration because it will snag every enemy that enters the radius, not just those in it at cast. It’s actually best used for charge denial, I’d argue, because it’s shorter than most other snares/nets. Skryre’s usual problems are a lack of frontline, but these things are second to none when it comes to standing in the front and killing everything in arm’s reach and locking up things that aren’t quite. They also break walls extremely quickly if that’s what you’re into.
Wtf clan skryre? The simplest start. On 1 turn -> Tobaro -> Tier 3 build -> smithy for catapults -> 4-8 Plagueclaw Catapults -> capital of Estalia -> Miragliano -> recruitment 6+ Ratling Gun Weapons Team and 2+ Warplock Jezzails -> some on 15 turn we have full stack and go wherever we want (for example, to Clan Angrund)
Malekith Campaign will 100% get much harder in Warhammer 3, specially if the Map expands further North, Sigvald gets a new starting location, and also Daemons of Slaanesh will likely start their invasion from the Frozen Wastes.
id love to see a video on equipment synergy with various legendary lords and heroes. For example, I gave my Isabella vampire doomstack glittering scales which gives -5 to melee to everyone in a 40m radius. It stacks, which makes them completely untouchable in melee. Love these videos!
Another thing about the "initial challenge" is that they haven't been updated. So dwarves were set back in the first release of the first game. Now, so much has been updated and while I'm not great at this game, I'd call it extremely difficult. God damn it is so hard. Black Crag just, will not die, ever. I played on normal difficulty but I wiped out his entire army, he was 130 or something on the power rankings, then 3 turns later he's got a full stack coming down from the fucking bloody spears land he confederated a while ago and sneaks up on the rest of Karaz-a-Karak and god it was so difficult. The recent map expansion makes it worse because now there's enemies to the east to worry about. Bloody Spearz is a bit bigger, and skaven will spread over there and start corrupting your land. So of course you want to eliminate them, but there's so many other things you need to do too.
Best I can suggest from the start is to build up so that you have walls in Squighorn and get 2 armies asap. 3 grudge throwers in each, 4 or 5 quarreler units (definitely not Thunderers)and definitely get Runesmiths for their bonus armour ability. Wait for Bloody Spearz to attack from Karag Dron, break them and then take that settlement. At that point Black Crag are usually heading for your territory again (probably had to break them once already. Send 1 army back to hold them off, send Thorgrim to take Black Crag. You'll need to use Legend's cheese-siege tactics because they'll have Black Orcs and artillery of their own but once you've taken that they should crumble fairly easily. As for things as they stand, spam quarrelers and artillery. 6 or 7 melee units is enough. Maybe 8 if they're spamming cavalry and you need to hold the flanks. Put your lord and any heroes out front on their own, just within crossbow range. Get your missile units to shred the enemy as they try to deal with your heroes. :) Oh, and if the enemy bring artillery deal with that first by setting up outside their range so that they have to move to engage. Your grudge throwers out-range anything they have. Apologies if you're already using any of the above tactics, just thought I'd share what I find works when dealing with the green tide.
Dwarf campaign went from sit there for 30 turns waiting for long beards to sit there shitting yourself for 30 turns hoping you can get long beards before the next 8 armies show up. Hopefully the Greenskin rework makes the Dwarf start less aids
Build up walls and then you can jump with your army in two turns with the underway to the black crag. the greenskins are useless without the black crag and send much less armies
Yeah Malekith got hard boned now lol. Getting the chaos invasion on his front door. Really easy without the chaos invasion on, but turn that up to legendary and good night 90% of players northern holdings lol (myself included).
On skryre, I like to take a small gamble and do the lvl4 cheese on miragliano on turn 8 or 9(as soon as food is high enougth), because ai defending a city is dumb. Its early enougth that failing doesnt hurt too much, and having miragliano and skaenblight is real nice.
I feel like Malus is easier than Malekith. Here is my case: As Malus, you get cheap construction and melee attack sucks on very hard battle difficulty anyways (12+ missle units that don't care about the melee attack) As Malus, you get Hag Graef (-60% local upkeep + lots of money) As Malus, you start with a Black ark (very good for getting sack money etc, get early start on recruit buildings) Although, it should be noted that this assumes you have some knowledge of how the campaign works and keep Hag Graef. Good guide though otherwise!
Plus Ikitt Claw can conquer Miragliano somewhat early and safley, which is another 10 slot settlement with harbour and pastures, which are of course very beneficial for Skavens.
Skarsnik. Dwarfs can be a little rough with the green tide rolling in every turn, but manageable if you're careful. Teclis can be a pain. These are all my opinion, of course. Also Chaos. Norsca can be a little iffy as well
@@JokoCi Saurus Warriors are one of the most cost effective melee units you can field even on very hard battle difficulty and the modifiers it gives enemy melee. It is extremely disingenuous to say they are not great.
Khalida has a very good starting position. You only have to slog it with vampires and lizardmen for a while and then you own a huge region ripe with resources and with two easily defensible ways leading there where you can bottleneck any army that decides to come and get you. Also you can expand into ruins of Nagshizzar if you want and then push orcs from the mountains or expand into "Larger Nehekara" and play politics with other Tomb Kings. Only problem is that you cant conefederate with Settra since he is an egotistic jerk so you have to either ignore him and expand otherwise or beat him into submission. On another note - cant win against fucken Red Cloud as Sniktch because gods damn Malus Darkblade keeps declaring war on me and sailing three stacks of dark elfs to my shore. Wtf is going on and how to beat that?
Now I think Tyrion is a bit harder (because of diplomacy issue and can't confederate that easy) and one who are totaly harder than before (he was not EASY but not hard) is... Grimgor ! Grimgor new start is a lot harder now ! Wont say the hardest but compare to before your starting units are very ridiculous. (And black crag lvl 1 dosent help) And if you dont have luck and are in the hardest difficulties, Thorgrim + Kazador attack you early on. Thorgrim declare war early and Kazador attacks you from the back cause he have no other war. The skaven clan declared war on me too. (The guys that get the provinces of red fangs) and everytime malus (or naggarond) + eshin and mors declare war on you. (A bit later on) The hardest in this I think it's because of the low mobility of your armies in the mountains so take soooo many turns to defend/attack. Wurzzag is far easier and same for Azhag. I didnt tested skarsnik or Grom yet !
Norsca(Wulfrik) can be pathetically easy if you know what you're doing(which isn't that 4D chess tbh). You're isolated and free to do whatever you want. Throgg is much harder due to the nearby presence of Kislev etc.
I used to love Karl Franz campaign,,,, But on turn 20-30 getting attacked by 3 factions in a short time frame keeps happening with Wurzag, Khazrak and some random norsca lord i cant remember.
What about The Last Defenders? I always found their starting location to be stupidly strong and easy, plus their town Temple of Skulls has extremely strong towers on a relatively small sized settlement.
Orion is extremely easy. Stay in starting settlement for 100 or so turns, just defeating rebellions. Save Amber for research to improve diplomacy with Bretonia, Dwarves and Men. Create Military Alliance with Empire, Dwarves and Bretonia around turn 110. Confederate other Wood Elves and upgrade the world tree with all the Amber from your alliances. Win by turn 140 with never having to fight a battle manually; can win in literally a few hours. I did this and never left the forests!
One thing that I've had trouble with is 'Greenskins in general are absolute pushovers'. I'm doing a Huntsmarshal playthrough and the savage orcs you start next to always beat me on the field, even with literally a full stack of savage orcs.
Well, that's savage orc tribes. They are a fair bit tougher than your average early game greenskin army and harder to rout off because they won't have any goblins and they have frenzy to protect them from terror. Besides, the Huntsmarshall is a bit of a special case because you can't easily recruit anything you want.
Can someone explain to me why waywatchers are better than swift arrow deepwood scouts? I've been spamming deepwood scouts and then kiting everything to death and everyone keeps going on about waywatchers, which while good with their range, I didn't find as strong. Obviously I'm using them incorrectly which is why I'm asking.
Eshin is extremely powerful at the endgame when ordertide has been forged and you are the only non order faction left, you can just thanos snap the strongest ordertide faction and kill off the others when they try to waste their armies claiming the empty territory, which most of them would prioritize.
You’re not wrong with the high elves my first campaign with them starting the game, thanks to the economy even if i lost a doomstaci i could just recruit 2 more by turn 200 i had too much money
Helmgart is so good. I had a campaign where I was at war with Bretonnia, and due to Norsca and Greenskin invasions I couldn't invade while Bretonnia while they were out making doomstacks at an industrial scale. Since my defenses where so concentrated in the north and south Bretonnia's AI saw Helmgart as an easy target, and would siege it every 1-3 turns with a huge army. This went on literally the whole campaign and just ended up a huge profit for me to fund my defense against real threats. It's especially easy to defend sieges vs. Bretonnia since they just hold their horse units in front of the walls like idiots.
Most of the Mortal Empires victory conditions are just really time-demanding because they require you to capture regions on the other side of the map. Not really "hard", they just take so long to get to that almost no one has the patience to finish the campaign
@@JustSome462 Id assume thats Vortex. And there is always some final battle with Vortex. In my Malus campaign I actually allied with Snikch, still had to fight against him in final battle. So even if you'd snap Malus you'd still need to do final battle. For ME it cant be as simple as to destroy 1 faction. Considering Malus does that to himself, suiciding against the Lizards while giving up Hag Greaf in some campaigns. So you'd win at like turn 7.
@@JustSome462 On the Vortex campaign that is. On Mortal Empires he has lots of other things he needs to do too. Also you need level 40 for Plunge into Anarchy
@@Kuddochan Yeah. I find that with Lothern these days is just unreasonable, since you must destroy Naggarond but they always confederate Malus and you have to crusade on the other side of the map. However, for Bretonnia geting that 2000 chivalry is pretty easy and could be done fast enough. Unfortunately i don't have much experience in the game, so just curious in general.
I tried playing twice as the dark elves on legandary, both times by turn 5 i was at war with the skaven, Varg and Hag Graef, the moment i take the 2nd skaven city they all just declare war on me, I feel like it is the hardest position to start in, but maybe it was just bad RNG
For Lothern (and HE in general), cant forget that intrigue at court.... So powerful on top of everything else. My fav is spending a lil influence to decrease relations between Yvresse (sp?) and Cothique. This will often lead to them cancelling treaties, getting massive penalties with each other and that entire coast falls to bits whilst you deal with Saphery etc. Otherwise they are almost guaranteed to to gang up on you whilst dealing with the others. Divide and conquer is incredibly effective with the HE because of this.
Sorry i ask but which patch is this? Im playing on the "pirate coast" expansion (just started) and i do not have Ubersreik on my Imperial campaign (13:51). Or is it some mod?
Do you have the game on Steam? There was an overhaul of the Empire recently which, among other things, added Ubersreik and Massiv Orcal as well as Elector Count mechanics, and if you can, you should definitely update the game to the latest build since they added a lot of content and nice quality of life changes since then!
I don't think it's bcs of the fact that they are easy that these has been ranked a lower rank than usually, But more because you need to analyse the situations. Like you just did with all these setlements
Idk man, the skaven weapons teams left a bad taste in my mouth because they highly dependent on nice unhilly plains and cannot at all invade wall breaches, which I had to do a LOT of wall battles. That and the fact that they refuse to fire through Skavenslaves… Like sure they are absolutely stellar in the right circumstances, but those were far and few between
It depends which weapon team you're talking about. While I like the idea of Warp-Grinders, I find they die too quickly in battle so I don't use them. But as a melee unit, they don't care too much about hills, so at least there's that. Warplock Jezzails and Ratling Guns both require line of sight, but I can find somewhere suitable on most non-Siege maps and they really rack up the kills in most of those battles. In Sieges, they're not very useful IMO, but they can kill a few units that are on the walls. Warpfire Throwers are a good unit with leadership debuffs but their short range means they don't get much use in my armies. Poison Wind Mortars are indirect fire weapons, so they're very good in field battles regardless of terrain, and excellent in sieges. And if you're playing Clan Skryre, you can now give them leadership debuffs! While I'm not a fan of Poison Wind Globadiers, Death Globe Bombardiers can be useful, particularly in sieges where you just want to clear some near dead units from the walls. They can then climb up and throw their death globes from the top of the wall, and that can be very effective against cavalry and monster units. Their short range makes them a lot less useful in field battles, but if enemies get close I'll position them behind a summoned unit and let them do some damage.
EDIT: In Mortal Empires, I mean Can you do a Repanse de Lyonesse first 10 or 20 turns guide? Maybe it's me, but I think it's the hardest start in the game. Every other faction is much easier IMO.
Actually I find her very easy compared to most others. I often try to be friend with the dwarf and lizard to the southeast, secure the provinces south for myself, then go north to fight the tomb kings. Her starting settlements gives a lot of income and generally tomb kings are not very hard to deal with in the beginning of the game.
Can't agree more. Be agressive with vampires and tomb kings. If you let tomb kings build up, they're a pain, but early game they're not so bad. Hit them early and hit them hard, then build up your provinces, get your economy built up. Don't forget to recruit lords ASAP to do their vows so they can get doomstacks later down the road
My the first time I play Karl Frank don't go war against Marienburg cause I though it's a elector cause he has the name of the region so the legitimate lord to possess this land and so in the empire...
For me Alarielle is easier than Lothern but maybe that's because I played her more. Also the Last Defenders have a similar start as Eshin but I agree that Eshin is easier because Krog-Gar has stronger enemys next to him.
surprised you didn't choose Gor rok. Though he isn't the best LL, Lord Kroak makes up for it and after 20 rounds you own 2 provinces with Gold mines and no real natural enemy.
Empire easy? Tbh, its the faction i have the most Problems with. Simply because of the undead. I started the campaign X-Times. But the undead are hard af. Not because of their units. But because of the Corruption mechanic. Its a faction you cant Rush very well and how more you fight how stronger they get. And to get to the Orcs you need good relations with the breton Lord or Conquer him. If youconquer him the bretons Fall in your back. If you go Dipomacy you need to spend much money or ...getting into more wars. While, when you not go for the Orcs, you had to habe always a Half stack at helmgart while in a war of attricion in the east
I played Malekith and in turn 30 every faction from High Elves declared war on me and attacked my two provinces with Tomb king army. Was that the easy campaign or the hard one? ´Cause I was sweating for the whole 100 turns I was trying to hold them off. Then lizardmen declared war on them and they just backed off. :D
@legendoftotalwar I'm playing on very hard very hard difficulty as clan pestilence and I find it very hard to beat a full stack of saurus warriors. Any advice?
More artillery. Less infantry, but quality infantry. Keep enemy in place by spamming The Menace Below while firing at them with your catapults. When in doubt, bring one or two slave stacks as backup. The dinos are the bane of the skaven.
I dont really like playing as Lothern. I think it's because you're stuck playing against high elves for a long time securing althuan. Then once you have it, you can steam roll the rest of the game. Kinda boring
Without the context he provides this list is useless. You can tell someone Oda is the easiest clan in Shogun 2, but if they don't know about Yari Wall making their special unit the best unit in the game, it won't be.
I find that when you ally with a faction they basically become super passive and weak and never recruit their armies. Break off ties with them and suddenly they're fielding multiple full stack armies. Explains why my allies are always getting wiped out.
10 months late, but it also feels like having vision of them just prevents them from going wild for some reason. So many times I see some big armies running around almost instantly, but the moment you have vision of them, suddenly they're slow as hell and recruit like normal.
@Utter Tosh? yes you can set coordination targets but usually they prioritize their own tasks first, meaning they won't go after your target for quite a while, at which point the reason for targeting them is already nullified.
old comment but still worth of reply. Legendary difficulty allies suck. Never ever form any form of alliance with them if you want them to help you. It makes them lose every single cheat legendary AI gets. They basically behave like normal difficulty AI. Instead form a non aggression pact and bribe them to join your wars. Much better result. Also if faction is confederable, you can ally them, wait until they get smashed, and then it's much easier to convince them to confederate
im still convinced that the easiest is count noctilus. You start in the middle of nowhere with no active wars outside of 1 fight and you are free to do w/e the hell you want.
The problem with noctilus is, expanding is super difficult early on and you have to be extremely meticulous, you'll have 0 vampiric corruption in whatever settlement you hit first, unless you go for Harkon, and holding onto those settlements is a chore thanks to all the rebellions that will inevitably occur for the next 20 turns.
You can literally disband every unit in Gor-Roks army, recruit skinks of any variety and you have a doomstack until Vampirates or High Elves throw single entity stacks together in 90 turns because Kroak is that strong. I am also shocked he didn't make the list, he either forgot or dinged Itza because of the swamp land.
Yeah no ive had a campaign where clan skyre clan pestilence and the vampire coast all decided to declare war on me within a few turns of each other. And this was all while i was at war with clan fester 😅.
It was like that anime trope where 2 characters strike and pass each other, then hold on the shot while both seem undamaged. Then one of them fucking explodes or is sliced in half.
"Everyone who doesnt like Tyrion can basically die" - Literal motto of High Elves armed forces
_Heir_ _of_ _Aenarion!_
"I've had some blunders playing as Lothern' = Alarielle declared war each goddamn time and had to beat her into submission.
Given the fact how Asur Princes treat Tyrion it's not even a joke.
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 malekith is a biiiiitch boy
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 Malekith is the Kylo Ren of Warhammer.
This is your best "top x" video yet. Great editing. Informative commentary, with little to no stumbling on your words. And of course, the content itself is interesting, and helpful (as usual). These videos may be difficult for you to make, but the effort really shows, and it's awesome to see the progress you've made. Good job, my dude.
Scipio Africhungus Agree, such a noticeable improvement in quality, I remember in one of the first ones of these we had to convince Legend to use at least some random footage or like trailers of the game he’s talking about in top5 and he was like “nah that’s too much work mate” and now you see this relevant, edited, high quality footage. Turns out putting in effort pays off ;}
the top 5 doomstacks was better imo
That's just Legends usual quality
wholesome
"You already start off at war with Australia"
Damn we know now that the fires were actually warp fires from ikit claw
WARP LIGHTNING!!
STORM DAEMON
''oh geez im terrible here'' back at it again with them quality videos
Totally agree with Malekith, but you forgot to mention one of the most important points you usually mention, being in the corner of the map!
im on like turn 100 with skryre and didnt notice you can scroll down on the weapon teams tab in the workshop
270 turns into a coop campaign. Didn't notice it myself
Took me about 120ish turns, I just ignored the units and didn't use them in my army smh
@@savetheself8 Indeed outside of the upgrade to the mortars the rest are nowhere near as good as the gunners/snipers.
I have played a few skryer campaigns and i just realized it after watching this now. lol
I knew it just now🤣🤣🤣
"They tend to not use the underway"
Meanwhile in my Empire campaign, a Skullsmasher army attacks through the Southern Grey Mountains instead of attacking Helmgart head on
That happened to me once. All you gotta do is just build up your border settlements and then just fucking sit there. AI Greenskins are really stupid
Happened to me too. Was just lucky they jumped right next to uberstreik, so the Army in Helmgart was able to defeat them. But these Orcs are really a pain in the ass.
The subtitles for this starting was “Oh jeez I’m terrible here and today we’re..” which I find appropriate for this video in particular.
Now do a video of starts that say their easy buf are actually VERY difficult, looking at you Mazdamundi!!
These are basically compartmentalized first 20 turn guides for 5 factions... nice.
I always found Repanse's start to be the easiest in the entire game.
She starts with a landmark port that generates lots of money... She has 2 human cities right next door that both love her. You can get non-aggression + trade + military access, maybe even defense pact all right at the start. As soon as you beat your very first enemy, one of them wants to confederate.
So you start with 1 city, occupy 2 more, confederate 2 more, and there are 2 ruins you can colonize. You get tons of land really quickly.
Also, tomb kings tend to be pushovers for the most part, aside from the few armies that have intensely strong units like Settra's warsphinx. The rest just fall over.
What is even better is you can send a lord without an army across the sea to discover tilea + all the brettonia factions and by the time it discovers them all, you will have finished your research projects that grant +100 diplomatic relations with every one of the confederable factions and +50 to all other human factions like tilea and the empire to secure tons of powerful allies right off and start mass confederation.
Unless most races, your confederation grants public order instead of taking away from it, and you can do it rapidly to acquire those extra lands. Your only neighbors in brettonia are one settlement of orcs and 1-2 settlements of vampire counts in the form of red duke, and then 1 settlement for kemmler, you can wipe out the only enemies you have almost immediately and everyone else in the area loves the hell out of you.
You expand faster than any other faction possible I think because of constant confederations and just such a strong start and weak enemies. By turn 30, you control a quarter of the world, have military alliances with another quarter, and can all work together to rapidly crush the greenskins and skaven. And, because of your diplo bonuses to elves and lizardmen, you can make military alliances with all of them as well.
After a very short stint wiping out tomb kings, then helping allies mop up orcs, the only enemy left to fight is the dark elves. It is actually nuts how fast Repanse snowballs into a world superpower.
I think the same I m a complete noob and she is the only one that I have been able to finish the campaign with
Should try Clan Skyre. It was the first campaign where I conquered the entire world just because it was so much fun.
They don't get the easy free expansions like Repanse, but after I take over estalia and tilea, I head straight to africa to conquer those weak skeletons for ridiculous sums of money.
And by the time you head back to europe, you have numerous stacks of ranged infantry that can shred much larger armies with ease.
Ratling guns and jezzails and artillery, its so so sweet.
Although I agree that snikch has a pretty easy start, I think you forgot about the lizardmen on the south. In two of my campaigns with clan Eshin They've declared war on me and immediately attacked my south settlements. Now hopefully by the time they attack you would have dealt with the greenskins, but if you are at war with the dwarves they can be a bit of a pain in the ass
Legend didn’t mention Warpgrinders as Clan Skryre, but if you should bring as many as your micro allows, IMO. Fully upgraded Warpgrinders are unbreakable, have regeneration, and annihilate elite infantry, cavalry, and chariots with over 110 AP WS on like 33 MA.
Seismic Snare also acts as an even better Expert Charge Defense for its duration because it will snag every enemy that enters the radius, not just those in it at cast. It’s actually best used for charge denial, I’d argue, because it’s shorter than most other snares/nets.
Skryre’s usual problems are a lack of frontline, but these things are second to none when it comes to standing in the front and killing everything in arm’s reach and locking up things that aren’t quite.
They also break walls extremely quickly if that’s what you’re into.
Wtf clan skryre? The simplest start. On 1 turn -> Tobaro -> Tier 3 build -> smithy for catapults -> 4-8 Plagueclaw Catapults -> capital of Estalia -> Miragliano -> recruitment 6+ Ratling Gun Weapons Team and 2+ Warplock Jezzails -> some on 15 turn we have full stack and go wherever we want (for example, to Clan Angrund)
Malekith Campaign will 100% get much harder in Warhammer 3, specially if the Map expands further North, Sigvald gets a new starting location, and also Daemons of Slaanesh will likely start their invasion from the Frozen Wastes.
Slannesh donut
Legend I have to say your knowledge on this game is impressive. I love your videos for tips and ways forward.
Kroq Gar I would say has the coziest start positions in the game. In a literal corner of the map surrounded by factions weaker than him
Fireball and malekiths strike combo was beautiful.
id love to see a video on equipment synergy with various legendary lords and heroes. For example, I gave my Isabella vampire doomstack glittering scales which gives -5 to melee to everyone in a 40m radius. It stacks, which makes them completely untouchable in melee. Love these videos!
Another thing about the "initial challenge" is that they haven't been updated. So dwarves were set back in the first release of the first game. Now, so much has been updated and while I'm not great at this game, I'd call it extremely difficult. God damn it is so hard. Black Crag just, will not die, ever. I played on normal difficulty but I wiped out his entire army, he was 130 or something on the power rankings, then 3 turns later he's got a full stack coming down from the fucking bloody spears land he confederated a while ago and sneaks up on the rest of Karaz-a-Karak and god it was so difficult. The recent map expansion makes it worse because now there's enemies to the east to worry about. Bloody Spearz is a bit bigger, and skaven will spread over there and start corrupting your land. So of course you want to eliminate them, but there's so many other things you need to do too.
Best I can suggest from the start is to build up so that you have walls in Squighorn and get 2 armies asap. 3 grudge throwers in each, 4 or 5 quarreler units (definitely not Thunderers)and definitely get Runesmiths for their bonus armour ability. Wait for Bloody Spearz to attack from Karag Dron, break them and then take that settlement. At that point Black Crag are usually heading for your territory again (probably had to break them once already. Send 1 army back to hold them off, send Thorgrim to take Black Crag. You'll need to use Legend's cheese-siege tactics because they'll have Black Orcs and artillery of their own but once you've taken that they should crumble fairly easily.
As for things as they stand, spam quarrelers and artillery. 6 or 7 melee units is enough. Maybe 8 if they're spamming cavalry and you need to hold the flanks. Put your lord and any heroes out front on their own, just within crossbow range. Get your missile units to shred the enemy as they try to deal with your heroes. :) Oh, and if the enemy bring artillery deal with that first by setting up outside their range so that they have to move to engage. Your grudge throwers out-range anything they have.
Apologies if you're already using any of the above tactics, just thought I'd share what I find works when dealing with the green tide.
Dwarf campaign went from sit there for 30 turns waiting for long beards to sit there shitting yourself for 30 turns hoping you can get long beards before the next 8 armies show up. Hopefully the Greenskin rework makes the Dwarf start less aids
Build up walls and then you can jump with your army in two turns with the underway to the black crag. the greenskins are useless without the black crag and send much less armies
Yeah Malekith got hard boned now lol. Getting the chaos invasion on his front door. Really easy without the chaos invasion on, but turn that up to legendary and good night 90% of players northern holdings lol (myself included).
On skryre, I like to take a small gamble and do the lvl4 cheese on miragliano on turn 8 or 9(as soon as food is high enougth), because ai defending a city is dumb. Its early enougth that failing doesnt hurt too much, and having miragliano and skaenblight is real nice.
I feel like Malus is easier than Malekith. Here is my case:
As Malus, you get cheap construction and melee attack sucks on very hard battle difficulty anyways (12+ missle units that don't care about the melee attack)
As Malus, you get Hag Graef (-60% local upkeep + lots of money)
As Malus, you start with a Black ark (very good for getting sack money etc, get early start on recruit buildings)
Although, it should be noted that this assumes you have some knowledge of how the campaign works and keep Hag Graef. Good guide though otherwise!
Plus Ikitt Claw can conquer Miragliano somewhat early and safley, which is another 10 slot settlement with harbour and pastures, which are of course very beneficial for Skavens.
Will you do a 5 HARDEST starting positions next?
That sort of exists already
Skarsnik. Dwarfs can be a little rough with the green tide rolling in every turn, but manageable if you're careful. Teclis can be a pain. These are all my opinion, of course. Also Chaos. Norsca can be a little iffy as well
I find Kroq Gar an easy start as well thanks to being easily defensible and saurus just destroy skaven at the start.
Saurus armies are great, only if you do not play on legendary...
I'm surprised gor-rok wasn't mentioned with his immediate access to the nuke frog and only having to fight squishy vampirates or rats.
Krok-Gar's start is a little tougher now with Eshin in the region and Malus able to attack your "safe" settlements from the sea.
@@JokoCi Saurus Warriors are one of the most cost effective melee units you can field even on very hard battle difficulty and the modifiers it gives enemy melee. It is extremely disingenuous to say they are not great.
@@brasswirebrush iT'S STILL EASY AS PISS
Love ur vids, very informative and helpful! Keep the good work up as always!
Khalida has a very good starting position. You only have to slog it with vampires and lizardmen for a while and then you own a huge region ripe with resources and with two easily defensible ways leading there where you can bottleneck any army that decides to come and get you. Also you can expand into ruins of Nagshizzar if you want and then push orcs from the mountains or expand into "Larger Nehekara" and play politics with other Tomb Kings. Only problem is that you cant conefederate with Settra since he is an egotistic jerk so you have to either ignore him and expand otherwise or beat him into submission.
On another note - cant win against fucken Red Cloud as Sniktch because gods damn Malus Darkblade keeps declaring war on me and sailing three stacks of dark elfs to my shore. Wtf is going on and how to beat that?
Now I think Tyrion is a bit harder (because of diplomacy issue and can't confederate that easy) and one who are totaly harder than before (he was not EASY but not hard) is... Grimgor !
Grimgor new start is a lot harder now ! Wont say the hardest but compare to before your starting units are very ridiculous. (And black crag lvl 1 dosent help)
And if you dont have luck and are in the hardest difficulties, Thorgrim + Kazador attack you early on. Thorgrim declare war early and Kazador attacks you from the back cause he have no other war.
The skaven clan declared war on me too. (The guys that get the provinces of red fangs) and everytime malus (or naggarond) + eshin and mors declare war on you. (A bit later on)
The hardest in this I think it's because of the low mobility of your armies in the mountains so take soooo many turns to defend/attack.
Wurzzag is far easier and same for Azhag. I didnt tested skarsnik or Grom yet !
think the honerable mention should go to chaos just start with kholek and camp in wastes till you get the dragon ogre building running and ya done
What's your thoughts on the Dreadfleet starting position?
Norsca(Wulfrik) can be pathetically easy if you know what you're doing(which isn't that 4D chess tbh). You're isolated and free to do whatever you want. Throgg is much harder due to the nearby presence of Kislev etc.
I used to love Karl Franz campaign,,,, But on turn 20-30 getting attacked by 3 factions in a short time frame keeps happening with Wurzag, Khazrak and some random norsca lord i cant remember.
really great video :D now I wish you did this with every faction :D...maybe an idea for the next video ? :D
What about The Last Defenders? I always found their starting location to be stupidly strong and easy, plus their town Temple of Skulls has extremely strong towers on a relatively small sized settlement.
6:20 "cash cow for food"
I think that is juse a cow. lol
I'm kinda shocked Count Noctilus is not in the list. Best starting position in my opinion
Top 5 overhaul mods for any TW game
Orion is extremely easy. Stay in starting settlement for 100 or so turns, just defeating rebellions. Save Amber for research to improve diplomacy with Bretonia, Dwarves and Men. Create Military Alliance with Empire, Dwarves and Bretonia around turn 110. Confederate other Wood Elves and upgrade the world tree with all the Amber from your alliances. Win by turn 140 with never having to fight a battle manually; can win in literally a few hours. I did this and never left the forests!
That seems pretty boring tbh
One thing that I've had trouble with is 'Greenskins in general are absolute pushovers'. I'm doing a Huntsmarshal playthrough and the savage orcs you start next to always beat me on the field, even with literally a full stack of savage orcs.
Well, that's savage orc tribes. They are a fair bit tougher than your average early game greenskin army and harder to rout off because they won't have any goblins and they have frenzy to protect them from terror. Besides, the Huntsmarshall is a bit of a special case because you can't easily recruit anything you want.
I'll give Tyrion a try today, thanks LoTWA
what to do with high elves when you can´t recruit sisters of averlorn? spam armies with standard archers?
Awesome video, great b roll for each faction.
Can someone explain to me why waywatchers are better than swift arrow deepwood scouts? I've been spamming deepwood scouts and then kiting everything to death and everyone keeps going on about waywatchers, which while good with their range, I didn't find as strong. Obviously I'm using them incorrectly which is why I'm asking.
Eshin is extremely powerful at the endgame when ordertide has been forged and you are the only non order faction left, you can just thanos snap the strongest ordertide faction and kill off the others when they try to waste their armies claiming the empty territory, which most of them would prioritize.
Nocullus, Oxyotyl, Tyrion and Alarielle, Helmann Ghorst simply because he is OP
You’re not wrong with the high elves my first campaign with them starting the game, thanks to the economy even if i lost a doomstaci i could just recruit 2 more by turn 200 i had too much money
Helmgart is so good. I had a campaign where I was at war with Bretonnia, and due to Norsca and Greenskin invasions I couldn't invade while Bretonnia while they were out making doomstacks at an industrial scale. Since my defenses where so concentrated in the north and south Bretonnia's AI saw Helmgart as an easy target, and would siege it every 1-3 turns with a huge army. This went on literally the whole campaign and just ended up a huge profit for me to fund my defense against real threats.
It's especially easy to defend sieges vs. Bretonnia since they just hold their horse units in front of the walls like idiots.
... and your defending units even get to level up due to the constant battles.
Top 5 fastest/easiest (or hardest) campaign victory conditions to achive.
Most of the Mortal Empires victory conditions are just really time-demanding because they require you to capture regions on the other side of the map. Not really "hard", they just take so long to get to that almost no one has the patience to finish the campaign
Isn't Snikch's victory condition "Destroy Hag Graef"? Pretty sure he'd take the number one spot because it means his wincon is reaching rank 30
@@JustSome462 Id assume thats Vortex. And there is always some final battle with Vortex. In my Malus campaign I actually allied with Snikch, still had to fight against him in final battle. So even if you'd snap Malus you'd still need to do final battle.
For ME it cant be as simple as to destroy 1 faction. Considering Malus does that to himself, suiciding against the Lizards while giving up Hag Greaf in some campaigns. So you'd win at like turn 7.
@@JustSome462 On the Vortex campaign that is. On Mortal Empires he has lots of other things he needs to do too. Also you need level 40 for Plunge into Anarchy
@@Kuddochan Yeah. I find that with Lothern these days is just unreasonable, since you must destroy Naggarond but they always confederate Malus and you have to crusade on the other side of the map. However, for Bretonnia geting that 2000 chivalry is pretty easy and could be done fast enough. Unfortunately i don't have much experience in the game, so just curious in general.
I wonder if warhammer 3 should give the regions of Estalia and Tiela far more provinces and have them broken up into numbers of smaller nations
Top 5 or Top 10 Total War mods (Rated in terms of content, polishing and overall feel)
I tried playing twice as the dark elves on legandary, both times by turn 5 i was at war with the skaven, Varg and Hag Graef, the moment i take the 2nd skaven city they all just declare war on me, I feel like it is the hardest position to start in, but maybe it was just bad RNG
If mom declares war on you - you loose
For Lothern (and HE in general), cant forget that intrigue at court.... So powerful on top of everything else. My fav is spending a lil influence to decrease relations between Yvresse (sp?) and Cothique. This will often lead to them cancelling treaties, getting massive penalties with each other and that entire coast falls to bits whilst you deal with Saphery etc. Otherwise they are almost guaranteed to to gang up on you whilst dealing with the others. Divide and conquer is incredibly effective with the HE because of this.
I would have expected Last Defenders to get on this list.
Kroq-Gar needed special mention, he is very easy too!
Sorry i ask but which patch is this? Im playing on the "pirate coast" expansion (just started) and i do not have Ubersreik on my Imperial campaign (13:51). Or is it some mod?
Do you have the game on Steam? There was an overhaul of the Empire recently which, among other things, added Ubersreik and Massiv Orcal as well as Elector Count mechanics, and if you can, you should definitely update the game to the latest build since they added a lot of content and nice quality of life changes since then!
I don't think it's bcs of the fact that they are easy that these has been ranked a lower rank than usually, But more because you need to analyse the situations. Like you just did with all these setlements
Empire is a fun faction
holy shit, you can scroll down in the forbidden workshop unit upgrades!?
Top 5 vortex campaigns
The game has changed since I last played Warhammer 1
i would have put last defenders on here although iv never played as skaven so maybe im wrong
Idk man, the skaven weapons teams left a bad taste in my mouth because they highly dependent on nice unhilly plains and cannot at all invade wall breaches, which I had to do a LOT of wall battles. That and the fact that they refuse to fire through Skavenslaves…
Like sure they are absolutely stellar in the right circumstances, but those were far and few between
It depends which weapon team you're talking about. While I like the idea of Warp-Grinders, I find they die too quickly in battle so I don't use them. But as a melee unit, they don't care too much about hills, so at least there's that. Warplock Jezzails and Ratling Guns both require line of sight, but I can find somewhere suitable on most non-Siege maps and they really rack up the kills in most of those battles. In Sieges, they're not very useful IMO, but they can kill a few units that are on the walls.
Warpfire Throwers are a good unit with leadership debuffs but their short range means they don't get much use in my armies. Poison Wind Mortars are indirect fire weapons, so they're very good in field battles regardless of terrain, and excellent in sieges. And if you're playing Clan Skryre, you can now give them leadership debuffs! While I'm not a fan of Poison Wind Globadiers, Death Globe Bombardiers can be useful, particularly in sieges where you just want to clear some near dead units from the walls. They can then climb up and throw their death globes from the top of the wall, and that can be very effective against cavalry and monster units. Their short range makes them a lot less useful in field battles, but if enemies get close I'll position them behind a summoned unit and let them do some damage.
As Malekith, I found Clan Rictus to be _very_ annoying. X/
EDIT: In Mortal Empires, I mean
Can you do a Repanse de Lyonesse first 10 or 20 turns guide? Maybe it's me, but I think it's the hardest start in the game. Every other faction is much easier IMO.
Actually I find her very easy compared to most others. I often try to be friend with the dwarf and lizard to the southeast, secure the provinces south for myself, then go north to fight the tomb kings. Her starting settlements gives a lot of income and generally tomb kings are not very hard to deal with in the beginning of the game.
Can't agree more. Be agressive with vampires and tomb kings. If you let tomb kings build up, they're a pain, but early game they're not so bad. Hit them early and hit them hard, then build up your provinces, get your economy built up. Don't forget to recruit lords ASAP to do their vows so they can get doomstacks later down the road
That's what I'm trying to do, I think I don't understand this faction at all, everyone else is easier in comparison. Even Beastmen
Does it matter what build u use on this game?
Always like the top 5 Vids :)
Thank you Legend very cool
My the first time I play Karl Frank don't go war against Marienburg cause I though it's a elector cause he has the name of the region so the legitimate lord to possess this land and so in the empire...
Why don't you want to stand outside the city?
For me Alarielle is easier than Lothern but maybe that's because I played her more. Also the Last Defenders have a similar start as Eshin but I agree that Eshin is easier because Krog-Gar has stronger enemys next to him.
Any plans to update this?
"oh geez I'm terrible here"
Top 5 (or 10) Best melee infantry in tw games, compared to what their faction needs
legend pretty much hates all melee infantry in warhammer 2 except for ironbreakers.
What starting positions are actually hard in your terms?
That fire sorc killstole Malekith so hard
surprised you didn't choose Gor rok. Though he isn't the best LL, Lord Kroak makes up for it and after 20 rounds you own 2 provinces with Gold mines and no real natural enemy.
Kroq-Gar deserve an honorable mention
What about with SFO?
the new wood elfen campaine is also pretty easy
Best wizard is fire wizard?
High elves are a good race, the only thing bad about them is their siege weapons
Top 5 hardest starting positions (i want to see ma boi skarsnik)
Empire easy? Tbh, its the faction i have the most Problems with.
Simply because of the undead. I started the campaign X-Times. But the undead are hard af.
Not because of their units. But because of the Corruption mechanic. Its a faction you cant Rush very well and how more you fight how stronger they get.
And to get to the Orcs you need good relations with the breton Lord or Conquer him. If youconquer him the bretons Fall in your back.
If you go Dipomacy you need to spend much money or ...getting into more wars.
While, when you not go for the Orcs, you had to habe always a Half stack at helmgart while in a war of attricion in the east
I played Malekith and in turn 30 every faction from High Elves declared war on me and attacked my two provinces with Tomb king army. Was that the easy campaign or the hard one? ´Cause I was sweating for the whole 100 turns I was trying to hold them off. Then lizardmen declared war on them and they just backed off. :D
@legendoftotalwar I'm playing on very hard very hard difficulty as clan pestilence and I find it very hard to beat a full stack of saurus warriors. Any advice?
More artillery. Less infantry, but quality infantry. Keep enemy in place by spamming The Menace Below while firing at them with your catapults. When in doubt, bring one or two slave stacks as backup.
The dinos are the bane of the skaven.
No itza?
Top 5 Spells
I think I would have had Kroq-Gar at number 5.
waiting for bottom-5
How did you get globeadiers in your forbidden workshop?
They should be in the weapons teams section, i believe
Wait IKIT CLAW starting position in Mortal Empires is SkavenBlight ? HOW THE F DID I MISS THAT????
Skavenblight not bright
@@lucasbeck1391 Thank you mann changed it
I dont really like playing as Lothern. I think it's because you're stuck playing against high elves for a long time securing althuan. Then once you have it, you can steam roll the rest of the game. Kinda boring
Try the legendary confederations mod. Proceed to start with all big factions united. Boom. World war.
@@Mayhzon I'll give it a go thanks
Nr. 5. 0:37 Naggarond
Nr. 4 4:25 Clan Skryre
Nr. 3 7:50 Clan Eshin
Nr. 2 10:29 The Empire
Nr. 1 14:45 Lothern
You're welcome.
Without the context he provides this list is useless. You can tell someone Oda is the easiest clan in Shogun 2, but if they don't know about Yari Wall making their special unit the best unit in the game, it won't be.
Thank you
Wtf ludi, please continue navarra campaign
I find that when you ally with a faction they basically become super passive and weak and never recruit their armies. Break off ties with them and suddenly they're fielding multiple full stack armies.
Explains why my allies are always getting wiped out.
10 months late, but it also feels like having vision of them just prevents them from going wild for some reason.
So many times I see some big armies running around almost instantly, but the moment you have vision of them, suddenly they're slow as hell and recruit like normal.
AI of this game is really extremely brocken, sometimes cheats harder than every people in the world and sometimes they will become passive as a statue
@Utter Tosh? yes you can set coordination targets but usually they prioritize their own tasks first, meaning they won't go after your target for quite a while, at which point the reason for targeting them is already nullified.
@@AzureRoxe The AI in the game just seems to spawn shit and sit in their main town.
old comment but still worth of reply. Legendary difficulty allies suck. Never ever form any form of alliance with them if you want them to help you. It makes them lose every single cheat legendary AI gets. They basically behave like normal difficulty AI.
Instead form a non aggression pact and bribe them to join your wars. Much better result. Also if faction is confederable, you can ally them, wait until they get smashed, and then it's much easier to convince them to confederate
im still convinced that the easiest is count noctilus. You start in the middle of nowhere with no active wars outside of 1 fight and you are free to do w/e the hell you want.
I honestly can't argue, and he can live off that one settlement for a long time too.
Tho it's super easy to fuck up
The problem with noctilus is, expanding is super difficult early on and you have to be extremely meticulous, you'll have 0 vampiric corruption in whatever settlement you hit first, unless you go for Harkon, and holding onto those settlements is a chore thanks to all the rebellions that will inevitably occur for the next 20 turns.
Sartosa feels way easier to me since you already start positioned to push north to the sword of khaine, establishing pirate coves along the way.
@@mylkwagon except you don't start anywhere near Lothern nor would you want the sword of khaine xD
Gor-Rok is pretty easy in my opinion just say the magic word: KROAK!!!
You can literally disband every unit in Gor-Roks army, recruit skinks of any variety and you have a doomstack until Vampirates or High Elves throw single entity stacks together in 90 turns because Kroak is that strong. I am also shocked he didn't make the list, he either forgot or dinged Itza because of the swamp land.
While gor-rok himself is quite easy in combat his starting position is kinda ass. Hard to expand.
@@sofaking9404 it's almost like half of Legendary lord live in lustria
Yeah no ive had a campaign where clan skyre clan pestilence and the vampire coast all decided to declare war on me within a few turns of each other. And this was all while i was at war with clan fester 😅.
luvr ov chkn Im assuming you were playing vortex then if you were fighting clan skyre
14:40, "He's not a strong legendary lord."
In the background Karl Franz misses so hard with Gal'maraz that a guy's head explodes.
You can actually thank a bullet for that one. Guy was getting pelted from the gun line.
14:36
Why would you place the time stamp after what you want people to see?
It was like that anime trope where 2 characters strike and pass each other, then hold on the shot while both seem undamaged. Then one of them fucking explodes or is sliced in half.
14:44 “I’d like to debate that statement with you sir, come closer.”
He should have said, _"Not strong at first compared to others."_
But fully kitted out, Karl Franz is a one-man apocalypse.
"Nobody likes Clan Skryre. And you know what? That's okay, because.."
*ZOOM IN ON SKAVEN FACE*
Me: Ah, I see
Lol
because they got a spacemarines jumptrooper
Can someone explain this meme regarding Legend and Skaven?
@@vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489skaven are his most favourite faction i think because their playstyle is literally to use cheese tactics
@@Mango-cp1im Aah, I see then he must like Balthazar Gelt a lot too.