2016 Toyota Prius Engine Fails @ Just 73,000 Miles. I Thought These Were Good! Full 2ZR-FXE Teardown

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  • @CheezeCracker
    @CheezeCracker หลายเดือนก่อน +483

    👍 "122hp, which is more than enough to get to the left lane on the highway and make somebody mad on their commute home" That needs to go on your Merch

    • @austinburgess9779
      @austinburgess9779 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      What he said

    • @Kidd-nq4fg
      @Kidd-nq4fg หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Dude I was about to comment this too 😂

    • @kathysarmcandy1992
      @kathysarmcandy1992 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      nailed it.

    • @Dirtyharry70585
      @Dirtyharry70585 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah even better when the turd crosses three lanes to block left lane then slow down to 55 in a 70. LED 6k head lights fix that problem.

    • @chadgailey6832
      @chadgailey6832 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I about spit my coffee out when he said that. I’m pretty sure Eric was suppressing laughter afterward.

  • @JayLopiccolo
    @JayLopiccolo หลายเดือนก่อน +472

    If there was a leak in the head gasket, the electric water pump running while the engine is off could flood the cylinder. Engine tries to restart, and boom - literally.

    • @joshmanis9860
      @joshmanis9860 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Usually when a engine turns and then hydro locks it shears some starter teeth

    • @silicon212
      @silicon212 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@joshmanis9860 No. A friend 'fragged' his 4.6 in his 2006 F150 when an intake gasket failed and filled #1 with coolant (unbeknownst to anyone). When he started it up, he said it made a lot of noise and started running real rough. #1 rod chucked through the side of the block. It did not damage the starter or flexplate.

    • @centauri61032
      @centauri61032 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      @@joshmanis9860 No starter or teeth on this baby to check. The electric motor certainly could have caused this damage if trying to start a hydro locked gas engine.

    • @joshmanis9860
      @joshmanis9860 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@centauri61032 yea I thought it had the normal starter system but it’s a 26hp electric motor which certainly will bend a rod

    • @claytoncoolidge992
      @claytoncoolidge992 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@joshmanis9860 actually no ive personally intentionally hydro locked well over a dozen engines both intentionally and unintentionally and swapped out 100s of customer engines and none of them ever damaged the starter or ring gear or starter unless it was damaged when uncle rodney left the chat

  • @joebersani8068
    @joebersani8068 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    Having the clamps off and still cutting the hose, it’s the little things in life lol, thanks for another great video Eric

    • @MontanaDirtRoads
      @MontanaDirtRoads หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ya he chose violence on that one

    • @RowanHawkins
      @RowanHawkins หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MontanaDirtRoadsbut not the one on the back side of the intake manifold. Eric is capricious like that!

  • @stuffandjunkandthings364
    @stuffandjunkandthings364 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    How it bends a rod is pretty easy to figure out. The 2nd motor in the E-CVT also functions as the starter motor, so however much coolant was in the combustion chamber was introduced to the piston/rod assembly via a 26HP (I think) electric motor capable of moving the car in reverse.
    It takes almost NO coolant in the combustion chamber in that style hybrid to bend parts, because the "starter motor" has more than enough power to do so. It ain't a little 12v motor via the ring gear, it isn't going to stop in the event of a hydrolock (unless it's 2 or more cylinders, and even then it would probably still brak parts).

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Mg1, aga the starter and evct regulator gear is capable of 42KW, or about 56HP.

    • @KollinsPlays
      @KollinsPlays หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's a plausible explanation. The confusing part s that the I.C.E. in a hybrid is even further removed from driver input than a typical fly by wire and everything is highly computer controlled. In an old car with no computer and direct throttle, nothing stops you from hotrodding the motor and blowing a head gasket. In a computer controlled non-hybrid with indirect fly by wire throttle, the computer usually makes it harder to blow the engine, but it's still possible. In a hybrid, the engine is so far removed from driver throttle input that it's hard to see the computer letting you over rev or over heat the engine enough to compromise the head gasket. I mean I've never jumped in a hybrid and just stood on the throttle to see what it does, but I can imagine the computer would just ignore throttle position before letting the engine rev to the moon.

    • @joshmanis9860
      @joshmanis9860 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You somehow made two typos in one word now that’s impressive

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah that was my thoughts too. I've fixed a hydrolock on an engine that didn't bend rods; starter couldn't even try.
      Cause was drowning at idle. Got lucky. Any sort of revs in it and it probably would have bent a rod from inertia when it took a swig of rainwater.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@KollinsPlays Heh. Part of why I prefer the old school stuff. No computers in the way. I hate the interference day-to-day and I'm smart enough to watch my gauges, not push my luck when things are out of spec, so I don't really need or want the computers between me and my engine.
      Part of why I love my 71 C10. Ain't nothin' there except a simple ol' points fired, carb fed straight six.

  • @planetwisconsin9901
    @planetwisconsin9901 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    You never want your engine to have "Eric, Save" written on it.

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts หลายเดือนก่อน +159

    2:56, when a engine says "Eric save" you know it's going to be something that needs to be seen

    • @clbcl5
      @clbcl5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It is really ...SAVE ERIC.... Like Ferris..Bueller..Bueller..Bueller

    • @gvet47
      @gvet47 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      When you say a part is good and then you intentionally throw it, there is probably someone out there that could have used it. You say the new part is not that much but if you are are young man trying to work on an engine they just may not have that extra dollar. A free oil pan just may help him or her out.😢

    • @OldManBadly
      @OldManBadly หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who is this Eric Save guy?

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eric had one job!

  • @tompiper3
    @tompiper3 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We have 35 Priuses right now and have sold off or ran another 15 into the ground. Had one head gasket on one with 245,000k miles. Weve replaced one high voltage battery on another with over 200k miles when it was 15 years old. Had a transaxle/generator on a 2nd gen with 80k miles and the Toyota dealer we use had never seen that before. Other then those major repairs, shift modules and catalytic converters have been done on a couple other high mileage priuses. The synergy drive system is far superior to any other hybrid system for cost and reliability. 3rd Gen and newer ones have no maintenance items besides filters and oil. Brakes last 200k miles. For those who haven't driven one, they will spin the tires and are far faster then 4 cylinder pickups commonly used by those who can easily just use hatchbacks. The Ford Maverick uses a leased hybrid system just like the Prius. The v6 hybrid highlanders were like 340hp. We save over $250k a year in fuel driving them for our line of work and with the cars going $300k miles easily we really can't fathom going back to ford rangers or chevy colorados. I got two guys standing at 6'7" and they fit in a prius better then a lightduty truck.

  • @TheWolfiet
    @TheWolfiet หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The water pump in these is built similar to the ones used in industrial sealed fishtank filter pumps, and tend to die for the same reason. The plasticy bits swell, as you said, and they just kinda burn up and die.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yes, the plastic in the water pump impeller area expands and shrinks then explodes. Not unlike BMW plastic parts under the hood. Change the Prius water pump at 100k to be safe.

  • @exNRGista2
    @exNRGista2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    It's 4:25 a.m. here in Italy, should I go to sleep? Obviously not, Eric has just uploaded some interesting shit 😆

    • @ibiro868
      @ibiro868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go have babies. Your population is declining.

    • @JayScott-ze8mc
      @JayScott-ze8mc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Anytime is "Eric" time!

  • @bensonak47
    @bensonak47 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    common issue on the 3rd gen prius. the coolant sweeps into the cylinder overnight and causes a misfire in the morning that goes away after a few seconds. depending on how bad the head gasket is and how careless the owner is, repeated starts will bend the rod.

    • @knurlgnar24
      @knurlgnar24 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This. Toyota made good stuff back then but they were not perfect.

    • @samoliver3242
      @samoliver3242 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I had an Audi A3 with the trash Bosch injectors that hydro locked when it leaked fuel into the cylinder overnight. Started it in the morning and bye bye. Because it's Audi they wanted 20k for an engine replacement on a 7k car

    • @zoidberg444
      @zoidberg444 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Headgaskets failing on an engine of this mileage and age is really bad. Are they all like this?

    • @trungson6604
      @trungson6604 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@zoidberg444 -- Head gasket failure is common in 3rd gen Prius.

    • @bensonak47
      @bensonak47 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@zoidberg444there's speculation that a bad/weak water pump is to blame. I have the same gen engine and changed the water pump around 100k. 160k now on original head gasket

  • @CoryRwtfyt
    @CoryRwtfyt หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I worked at a Toyota dealer for years. These had carbon buildup issues, but otherwise they are solid engines if taken care of.

    • @sriss1414
      @sriss1414 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You nailed it. I keep a strict regime of EGR and cooler cleaning every 25- 30k km. I want take my prius above 500k km

    • @LoveLikeaHurricane
      @LoveLikeaHurricane 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they didn't have D4-S at that time?

  • @ManOfScarab
    @ManOfScarab หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The engine shuts off if you are stopped and starts back up when you touch the gas, I can see a scenario where the head gasket blows while driving due to a faulty water pump and then you stop at say a light and the pressure in the system fills the cylinder with coolant. The light turns green, engine starts, and boom hydro locked.

    • @kcstein5956
      @kcstein5956 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Sadly, these don't hydrolock. The E-CVT also functions as a starter. So this isn't no 12v starter, it's gonna push through it whatever is inside, bending and breaking shit.

    • @wearethelandrovers9014
      @wearethelandrovers9014 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Um, no. The Toyota hybrid is NOT one of those auto start-stop things. Yes, the motor can shut off if you are stopped, but it can routinely shut off when you are driving down the road. It also does not automatically start by touching the gas pedal. It only starts when the battery needs it or if you need more throttle to accelerate faster. I have had hundreds of times in slow traffic where the motor didn't run for half a mile or more.

    • @davidmiller9485
      @davidmiller9485 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@wearethelandrovers9014 all of you are sorta right. The synergy hybrid drive system works on speed. If you are doing less than 7-8 MPH it runs off battery. if you push your foot down it will activate the engine. So light throttle (assuming the battery is charged) won't "start" the engine. I own a 2nd gen with almost 300k and i have no issues with keeping up with traffic. the car's power is fine. People on the other hand.... Well i can't help people who can't drive.

    • @wearethelandrovers9014
      @wearethelandrovers9014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidmiller9485 I had a Gen 2 and traded up to a 2010 Gen 3 Touring model. I did a lot of commuting in and out of the DFW airport 30 miles to home near Ft. Worth. Running daily in traffic, it routinely ran 30mph on battery for a block or two before starting the engine. After a few blocks of charging, the engine would shut off. Rinse and repeat. It was easy to get 55 to 60 mpg in town.
      It wasn't just a city car; we took it on several BIG road trips of 4-5k miles or more. I'm talking Texas to Minnesota, Montana, California, Utah, and more. Those were all separate trips and sometimes more than once. We drove at least 30k miles at 80 mph or faster. (Some of our Texas roads have 85 MPH speed limits.) Never a problem in 118k miles and lifetime fuel economy was 47 MPG. (I have been keeping logs on my cars for over 50 years.)

  • @HomelabExtreme
    @HomelabExtreme หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    A simple collab til The Car Care Nut would really be awesome in a case like this.

    • @nopy99
      @nopy99 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The actual colab we need is scotty kille😂 14:14

  • @Arman-tm1kz
    @Arman-tm1kz หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hey bud how you doing
    I'm a Toyota mechanic and these engines only have headgasket issue and EGR issues, though its not quite that common like the previous generation 2ZR (with steel valve cover instead of plastic).
    Toyota's recommended service interval with coolant is 150k kilometers or every 10 year, whichever comes first
    Thanks for the informative video, it's my first time seeing a bent rod on any Toyota (except highly tuned engines like the JZ's)

  • @marathoner43
    @marathoner43 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thanks for my Saturday night entertrainment Eric. I hope you got lots of sellable parts off that one, and hope you have a great rest of your weekend.

  • @garyganser2451
    @garyganser2451 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was told that factory Toyota plugs have a letter on the tip. My daughters new to her 180k Toyota 2GR FE had such plugs. It still ran fine even though the gaps were huge!

    • @spenserchalkley7013
      @spenserchalkley7013 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Friend of mine has an 06 Civic that we replaced what had to be the original NGK plugs on it around 194k miles. Much like yours, it seemed to run perfectly fine, but the gap was pretty far beyond specifications 😂😂😂

  • @monomille1
    @monomille1 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I have had two of these cars and they both are still running fine for other family members with over 150k miles each. Oil and filters at recommended intervals incl plugs at 100k. Takes a new 12v battery every 4 to 5 years. Brakes at 100k because regen braking extends life of friction brakes. Zero other problems. I couldn’t ask for more from any car.

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You may want to proactively replace the water pumps, extremely easy job. The suggested replacement interval is from 60-100k miles on these particular pumps, the EGR cooler and pipe as well.

    • @living4christ
      @living4christ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@donniev8181 How much is it to replace these water pumps?

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @living4christ not too terribly much, maybe a few hundred dollars if you have a good local mechanic. The dealership may charge around double that, you could do like I do and do it yourself?

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @living4christ just look up exactly how many hours of labor are involved with replacing the water pump on your specific car. Go to RockAuto and search for a Aisin water pump, they manufacture OEM Toyota pumps. I just recently purchased a new Toyota, I will be proactively changing parts on my car. Make sure that you change your antifreeze every 60-80k miles, your antifreeze gets acidic over time and can slowly eat away at your cooling system.

    • @bme7491
      @bme7491 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have a 2012 Prius plug-in with 150,000 miles and no issues whatsoever. Purrs right along.

  • @kenhitchcox5750
    @kenhitchcox5750 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    No comment on the teardown other than it seemed like a pretty straight forward one. I'm very sorry about your pup. They are family, sometimes more than blood family. RIP Lucky.

  • @The_Future_isnt_so_Bright
    @The_Future_isnt_so_Bright หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    3:20 - Fun fact: The brown rings at the base of the porcelain on the spark plugs is combustion gases that manage to escape between the metal and porcelain .

  • @TheRealAndrewDeanhardt
    @TheRealAndrewDeanhardt หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I drove a Prius for work last year. I probably used all 122hp to get up the highway hills of Northwest Oregon.

  • @abpob6052
    @abpob6052 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Just salvaged my 2010 with almost 300k miles. Head gasket started to fail at about 250k. Managed to nurse it another 40k miles with head gasket sealant. The biggest issue is the pressurized coolant system. It keeps the head gasket under constant pressure from outside-in when the car is parked. If you are able to remember to remove the coolant cap when you park and then put it back before you start it again I think the car would survive the failing gasket for much longer. It still got 48 mpg when it died and would use about a qt of oil every 1k miles if you ran it on the freeway. If you only drove it locally and slow it didn't really use any more oil than normal.

    • @jacquesc3166
      @jacquesc3166 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...and that's probably a Win for the engineers on this one. Beats the vast majority of car ownership experiences.

    • @jerrydavidnichols6735
      @jerrydavidnichols6735 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have 2 2010 Toyota Prius's both needed head gaskets at around 200000 so that's a problem with them. It's the start stop technology getting hot to cool all the time. Also the EGR cooler plugs up and can blow a head gasket.

    • @thiswillprobhrt
      @thiswillprobhrt หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pressurized cooling system is the norm. If you get a HG breech between a cooling passage and a cylinder on any car you have the same issue with coolant being pushed into the cylinders.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, interesting. My car burns oil on highways too.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The 2010-2012 were the worst on head gaskets.

  • @brianallen9810
    @brianallen9810 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Neat water pump, it's like the water pump on my aquarium. The only moving part is the impeller...very reliable.

    • @rook2043
      @rook2043 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Except the heating and cooling cycles deterirate the plastic impeller parts. When the plastic ring around the impeller breaks, it jams the impeller. Then the head gasket is toast. Change it at 100k.

  • @marc-oliviercabot3380
    @marc-oliviercabot3380 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'd say headgasket.. but i'm surprised that a 2nd gen 2ZR-FXE died at such low milleage. We see some of those around here with over 700 000km chugging around just fine... we changed a couple of waterpumps and headgasket but mostly on 2010-2015 units.. anyway, i'd put a new rod and headgasket, shave the deck and head a bit and it would be new..

    • @gillesvanleeuwen
      @gillesvanleeuwen 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      where are located? In NL very little people drive past 300.000km of course commercial vehicles, but not private individuals.

    • @marc-oliviercabot3380
      @marc-oliviercabot3380 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @gillesvanleeuwen Lévis, Quebec City's south shore. The crazy high units are courrier type cars that delivers medical stuff. These guys are basically living on the road.

    • @AntonOliinyk
      @AntonOliinyk 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not a 2nd gen, 2nd gen had no EGR.

  • @BrainDamageBBQ
    @BrainDamageBBQ หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    That water pump is basically a brushless fan motor like you would find in a computer. I'm sure it reports back the rotational speed of the armature and a few other things including coolant temperature. Electronic components on the circuit board are unlikely to fail even with a locked armature condition. Catastrophic electrical failure is unlikely - you probably won't see scorched parts on the circuit board. Look for things like cracked solder joints especially around larger components which are subject to vibration. Bearings, etc. could fail as with any other mechanical device.
    In 20 years, the electrical failure of capacitors becomes likely, but for this reason most automotive and aerospace electronics are built to avoid electrolytic capacitors where possible. I am sure lots of otherwise excellent cars are being scrapped because of electrolytic capacitor failures causing all sorts of weird issues especially in the fuel injection and ignition systems. Electrolytic capacitors fail simply due to age but are cheap and easy to replace if you know what you're doing with a soldering iron. Used and New-Old-Stock parts will not be helpful, as the capacitors will be just as old as the ones in the part on the car. Your local antique radio club is well-versed in troubleshooting capacitor-related problems and will happily help repair the ECM in your Buick Grand National or other car...

    • @Bywater-S
      @Bywater-S หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So similar to a flux capacitor? Lol wonder if Doc knew this with the DeLorean? Haha

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looks exactly like my pcs water cooling loop d5 pump.

    • @raoulrr
      @raoulrr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I replaced the caps in my old Mitsu 3000GT's ECU for a few bucks in new caps and 30mins of my time with a soldering iron, vs buying a "refurbed" ECU for $500

    • @Bhughe4
      @Bhughe4 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are 100% correct on this. I am a very seasoned automotive technician of 20+ yrs and daily drive a 1993 F-150 300 I6 cause, well, im smart and that truck will probably outlive me.
      Anyway, a couple years ago I almost sent that F150 to the scrap yard in the sky for exactly the reasons you said. It was the first time for me encountering the leaking capacitor problem and I didnt know about it. I actually do have a Ford OBD1 scan tool so I was seeing all kinds of weird, electrical values in real times that would for no reason at all clear up and go back in spec before I could get a meter on the sensor or circuit.
      Also at times the truck would run like shit, id run and grab the scanner, see what sensor value was skewed and proclaim that "This! This must be whats wrong. Im seeing it right here ha ha!" Then on the next key cycle everythings fine.
      I went round and round chasing ghosts until I traced the problem to the PCM using the OEM wiring diagram.
      Over 20 years ive replaced....maybe....6 or 7 PCM's. Ive seen techs condemn perfectly fine PCM's all the time using the patented parts cannon diagnostic strategy. Its never the PCM.
      After double checking I went and got a PCM for that truck. I wanted to know what happened so I did an auto autopsy on one core before I returned it. Result? 3 capacitors had started to leak acid on the circuit board causing all sorts of issues. The PCM was original to the truck and was 28 yrs old at the time.

  • @axispowerdiesel
    @axispowerdiesel หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cutting the rubber hose after pulling it off was amazing

  • @freddyhollingsworth5945
    @freddyhollingsworth5945 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I personally know 4 people that blew head a gasket on newer 4 cyl Toyota vehicles. I'm shocked Toyota hasn't improved the quality yet. Luckily they were all still in warranty and got new free engine replacements.

    • @mystisith3984
      @mystisith3984 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      🎯 I'm not surprised. People need to realise that Toyota 2024 & 2014 are 2 different animals in terms of quality & reliability. And that's valid for 🇯🇵 automakers as a whole. A lot of problems. If I wanted to buy "cheap Asian cars", I'd go Hyundai or even certain Chinese brands. That being said, there's no perfect brand & you really have to do your homework for any model that interests you before buying anything. 😔

    • @jacquesc3166
      @jacquesc3166 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mystisith3984 Makes me wonder about the 2020-2021 AWD Camrys I'm looking at... I've been running VQ's (3.5, 3.7) for 14+ years and the AWD Camry is the only thing I'd replace my trusty G37xS sedan with. I'm not so sure now.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mystisith3984, look at Mazda with 2.0 and 2.5L I4. Very conservative engines in a good way.

    • @derekmeyers5966
      @derekmeyers5966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@jacquesc3166 What I usually do when I'm looking into getting a car is look at the forums for those cars and watch them for a few weeks. Take note of common issues, uncommon issues, strange behavior, and fixes for known problems from current owners to get a gauge of what they're like. If you see quite a lot of posts about the same thing, you can safely assume that the issue will affect 5-10% of the total population of the model and year range you want. For example, last year I bought a 15 Silverado 1500 4.3l. Known issues: AFM Lifter failures eating Cams, 6L80 Torque Converter shedding and eating the Trans. But for about 1700 you can fix both and get even better performance. Also, my V6 version is quite a lot more reliable than the V8. But basically just look at what current owners say and not review sites.

  • @1MiketheMechanic
    @1MiketheMechanic หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Have a 2011 Prius currently waiting for an engine. Coolant seeping into cylinder #2 from the head gasket. 183K the owner decided on an engine.

  • @StormyBoi
    @StormyBoi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have an '18 with a quarter million miles on it, never given me a whiff of a problem, mind you I maintain it, very diligently.

  • @kevincurry4735
    @kevincurry4735 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Happy Saturday night Eric. I hope you had a great time at Ray’s and we have a great video to come.

  • @bobferranti5222
    @bobferranti5222 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eric, I fully expect you to show a entire wall of timing chains some day lol.

  • @kj3313
    @kj3313 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow the other day I was looking to see if u had a video on 1.8 Toyota engines and I was thinking there is no way because they don’t break and bam u have one now

  • @shawnm9626
    @shawnm9626 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't think I've ever seen you meet a timing chain that you didn't like lol👍

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Glad you are back on the normal timeslot, heard about your dog 😔

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Thanks for the thoughts. It’s still tough. 😞

    • @Kanesgarage
      @Kanesgarage หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@I_Do_Carssorry to hear about your pup. It’s definitely not easy 😔

    • @dirtfarmer7472
      @dirtfarmer7472 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My Boston terrier is 8 years old.and I’m certainly not looking forward to the day when I have to start looking for another. Got him when he was 6 weeks old it’s been a long time.

  • @SkyPilot-v8g
    @SkyPilot-v8g 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My daughter has a 2015 with over 400,000 still going strong! Take care of the things you want to take care of you!

  • @centauri61032
    @centauri61032 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I have a 2010 Prius (yes, one of the oil eaters), with just under 300k miles. Had to replace the head gasket at about 220k. Also replaced the EGR valve at the same time due to intermittent 401 codes. And I rebuilt the hybrid battery myself this summer, upgrading it to lithium. Otherwise, no other issues to report, other than routine maintenance. (Including the original water pump.) I just keep feeding it gas and oil, and it stays happy.

    • @DavidHaile_profile
      @DavidHaile_profile หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I also had a 2010 that had 215k miles when it was crashed. It used about a quart of oil per tank of fuel at that point. It had been using oil since 90k miles. I figured the oil rings were gummed up and stuck. That EGR system was in bad shape. I had blocked it off at the intake. We were glad when someone ran into that car. It was otherwise trouble free even had original brakes all around.

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Did you check out ChrisFix's ev battery rebuild video?

    • @SplosionMovies
      @SplosionMovies หลายเดือนก่อน

      How's the rebuilt battery? That's super cool to upgrade to lith ion. I presume they started life with NiMH?

    • @ranchorelaxo2287
      @ranchorelaxo2287 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be aware that the lithium cells require better monitoring and charging control than the NIMH cells. Most of the kit suppliers just use the original charging system and supply the cells. I'll try to post a link if I find it.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a NEX Power lithium battery in my 2008 Prius. No problem after 2 years. About $2500. Faster acceleration, lighter weight and easy to install. Half the blades and uses only the connectors on one side. Uses the original case.

  • @grahamearley1820
    @grahamearley1820 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just like most engines, there are some gems among them, yours is one of them, only 73,000 miles, you must feel so lucky. lol

  • @TCGProductions03
    @TCGProductions03 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The last time I was this early, the 24-valve Cummins was still the new hotness

  • @unavailablenumbers
    @unavailablenumbers หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    First of all, so very sorry to hear about your dog. It's never, ever easy to say goodbye to our four legged family members. Maybe the hardest of all. :(
    But on to the geekery, yes? The interval on the plugs for these is allegedly 120k. They also insist you should only change the oil every 10,000 miles but reset the maintenance reminder every 5,000 miles. (I'm not making this up. This is explicitly stated in the official Warranty and Maintenance Guide. Oil every 10k, but make sure you just reset the reminder.) Just like Corolla CVT fluid replacement is "never." Yeah. Sure Toyota. And the 3.6 Pentastar doesn't have any design defects, and Stellantis didn't cut costs past the breaking point on the 5.7 for MY22. (Keep an eye out - inadequate metallurgy for the cams, take 2!)
    And that head gasket is actually TERRIBLE. See those shiny silver spots? Yeah, those are ALL blowouts. The head gasket is supposed to be completely black and smooth on both sides with no silver showing at all. Everywhere you see silver is an existing breach. If you want to confirm, just pop down to your local Toyota dealer and ask them to show you the replacement part - they'll have it in stock, guaranteed. And with every Prius, all those blowouts are in the coolant passages from the wet jacket. It was dumping the entire wet jacket into that cylinder.
    Just how bad is it? Cylinder 2 is completely gone. Cylinder 3 was pushing water into 2 through the fire ring. And cylinder 1 was getting some water and about to let go. You can tell by the plugs; 2 was flooded to non-combustion, 3 was way too cold from water getting in, 1 was going cold, and 4 was still okay.

    • @kathysarmcandy1992
      @kathysarmcandy1992 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm retired from Toyota after 30 years. The reason given on the inside, for the high maintenance intervals, was their answer to passing emissions certification for a given year. People can do whatever they want; dump your Amsoil in and change it every 15K or five years. Change the plugs for Cobra Fangs...."Not tampering with the engine for extended intervals, off of factory spec, ensures it will stay in certification the longest." When do you change you oil? By having it an analysis performed. Finding out the oxidation and wear metals values, what whether the ZDDP is depleted. Want sludge and oil consumption, early timing chain failure and vvti actuator rattle? Change it every 10K. As far as the head gasket issues on Prii, that's not uncommon at all. Or in any other product line that's gone to "Floating core cylinder liners." As you see, not attached to the main block material like an iron block. 1 and 2ZZ, 2AZ, GRs, any aluminum block Toyota has. It'll leak over time from core shirt, or get it hot just one time, and you have an expensive boat anchor. If the core varies from true, from the outer rim of the block more more than .0015", it'll leak at some point. And it takes more milling that that to true it. So then the valve timing will become retarded. And you may or may not get timing codes. And it will be down on power. Subaru has the same issue. My neighbor had a Forrester. She drove over and it occured to me to ask if she'd ever had head gasket problems. She said no. Idling there for five minutes, it stalled. It restarted sort of, and poured the white stinky out the back. Called that noise right in my driveway. Cheaper materials, cutting corners on design. Reliability going down the drain. The way of the future.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Using a Group 3 Synthetic in a Prius for over 5k is asking for stuck rings.

  • @b0bsaget007
    @b0bsaget007 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    "No, Patrick. Mayonnaise is not a lubricant."
    "Horseradish is not a lubricant, either."

    • @Shade_Tree_Mechanic
      @Shade_Tree_Mechanic 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lmao, I love it 😂

    • @philipershler420
      @philipershler420 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Butter Scotch pudding is only a good lubricant if it’s fully synthesized. 😂

  • @richardgraham1167
    @richardgraham1167 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Happy Saturday!

  • @litespeed7715
    @litespeed7715 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Calling The Care Care Nut! AMD will probably know the history of the issue, how common they were, and probably fixed a bunch of them.

  • @peachyclean93
    @peachyclean93 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My grandparents had two Camrys a 93 and a 97 they both had to replace the engines after the 97 blew up my grandfather told the Toyota service department that they will not be back. And they have been buying Chrysler and general motor vehicles ever since never had to replace an engine in any of their vehicles since the Toyotas!

  • @kencreten7308
    @kencreten7308 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I don't know why, but your jokes never get old about hoses and chain guides. You know you could save the hoses, belts and chain wear surfaces, in a box, well boxes, then you could put them behind your business. Then just keep saving them. Eventually you'd have a lot of them. Maybe you could give some to your neighbors.

    • @jerryc3050
      @jerryc3050 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, the liability...🙄

  • @joshhhab
    @joshhhab หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The best you can do if your Prius has blown gasket is to open almost completely coolant fill cup to release all exhaust bases from the coolant system. Danger is not a blown gasket itself but air pressure that causes coolant to go inside the cylinder through this breached gasket. The symptom of a blown gasket is misfires when the engine starts when it's cold or running for a while. You can drive a lot with a blown gasket with an open coolant cup, but you can easily kill your engine if you don't open it immediately

  • @evilkabab
    @evilkabab หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I really like that electric water pump. First it is variable speed and saves you gas. Second it doesn't have any shaft and its seal so it is less chance to leak, also it is lubricated by coolant fluid

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That apparently is also it's downfall.
      Near zero tolerance for overheating.
      That spindle it rotates on (the one Eric took the O ring off)...has no lubricant other than the coolant.
      The plastic coils cannot stand overheating, nor can the electronics.
      Run out of coolant just once.....and goodbye pump.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JohnSmith-pl2bk agreed. If they had used an old school belt driven water pump and drive it with a motor it would have been a solid design.

  • @lukedevenny7507
    @lukedevenny7507 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The word you were looking for with the coolant hose was "recirculated" funnily enough 😅 love your vids!

  • @litz13
    @litz13 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    For whatever it's worth -- the head bolts dinged at an almost perfect D# (6).
    (yes, I used a tuner; :-) )

    • @johnrowley4993
      @johnrowley4993 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’ve started something 😂 Eric needs to buy a tuner 👍

    • @litz13
      @litz13 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@johnrowley4993 it dinged, and my ear went "wow, that's almost exactly on pitch". So I fired up a tuner app and rewound the video. Yep, almost perfect D#.
      And then all the rest of the bolts were exactly the same, too. Probably says something about the lack of actual overheating in the engine, 'cause none of the torque values drifted.

    • @johnrowley4993
      @johnrowley4993 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@litz13 Eric needs to include this in all of his videos 😊👍

    • @1963TOMB
      @1963TOMB หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I though it was Eb😀

    • @litz13
      @litz13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1963TOMB all depends on one's point of perspective.

  • @limpans_speedshop
    @limpans_speedshop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the same thing that happens with Ford Duratec engines from the first few years. They are also open deck, and coolant enter a cylinder when the engine is turned off but still hot and still has some pressure inte cooling system. Enough coolant enters the combustion chamber to hydro-lock the cylinder resulting in a bent rod, and sometimes cracked piston and head.

  • @ImNotHereToArgueFacts
    @ImNotHereToArgueFacts หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    32:13 and now I see you as the WaterBoy. The wife says no but I can't unsee it

  • @slocavky
    @slocavky หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We call the "cam tower" as you called it a Cam Carrier at the Toyota plant in Georgetown Kentucky. We do the Camry and rav 4 hybrid there...

    • @somethingelsehere8089
      @somethingelsehere8089 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We called them a cam tower at a Toyota dealer before there was a plant in Kentucky. 5M-GE in Cressida and Supra had a more leak prone version than current ones.

  • @davidwood7170
    @davidwood7170 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The cat. Those cat converters have a coolant line. and if the break is large enough, coolent can find its way back thru to the cylinder head. There was probably enough coolent in #2 upon start up to bend the rod. The Car Care Nut chaannel had a 2017 Prius with the same issue. But the cat leak was minor so all it did was steam clean the pistons and did not Hydro lock the engine. AMD actual thought the headgasket was the issue. But it wasnt.

    • @two6s722
      @two6s722 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you nailed it

  • @Mouse117Inc
    @Mouse117Inc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looks like moisture build up from short engine cycles. Happens when the engine isn't fully warmed up to evaporate the water that gets inside while sitting. Happens a lot with hybrids that are driven lightly or plug in.

  • @michaelseibold9977
    @michaelseibold9977 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I'm a member of Americans United to Save Waterpumps. We petition Eric to please treat all waterpumps with the respect they deserve! Please send checks to our Waterpump Museum in Scranton, PA.

    • @rossrogers7058
      @rossrogers7058 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      SEND ALL USED AND BROKEN WATER PUMPS THERE BUT NO MONEY!!!!

    • @zburnham
      @zburnham หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@rossrogers7058 calm down, Satan. lol

    • @bearlemley
      @bearlemley หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I hope your organization is inclusive and supports all water pumps, including those that identify as fluid pumps and pumps that spin the other way. That way all pumps will be equal no matter their flow rate. We Love Gas Boosted Turbo Quality Plus others. And if you don’t we will call you names!
      ;-D

    • @michaelseibold9977
      @michaelseibold9977 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bearlemley I'll askmy my buddy over at the trans museum. They do allow CVTS as well as ECVTS, 4 on the floor and more!

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Floor 2 space 38 of the Steamtown Mall

  • @matthewtymaja3760
    @matthewtymaja3760 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The 2010 1.8 Prius was particularly bad for EGR breather tube blockage causing head gasket failure (maybe even on this cylinder). The stop-start nature of the engine could have played a part too; it runs at 50-80% throttle load mostly, so could stop when quite hot, causing a sharp rise in coolant pressure, filling the cylinder with coolant via a tiny HG leak. The engine restarts using a MUCH more powerful ‘starter motor’ than normal cars, so a restart could bend a rod at low speed but incredibly high torque, causing a bent rod without any other carnage. An unusual failure! (I have a 2003 Gen 1.5 Prius still going strong!)

  • @josephludwig1126
    @josephludwig1126 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Just enough HP to make someone mad. Awesome ❤❤❤

    • @jassmaan7603
      @jassmaan7603 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro it’s economy car why are you mad…

  • @budlanctot3060
    @budlanctot3060 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mentioned this before, but I'll do it again anyway. You can buy a good straightedge from Goodson for not much money. I bought mine a couple decades ago for $25. Probably twice that now, but still a decent deal.

  • @johnt.848
    @johnt.848 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That low compression at the start had me thinking the plugs were removed already, something was causing low compression.

    • @pauleleven6658
      @pauleleven6658 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      dont some of these toyotas run the atkins cycle keeping a valve open on the off stroke at times to reduce compression/pumping losses? dunno just a thought but it might be normal on these things.

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@pauleleven6658 yeah, the Prius is an Atkinson cycle engine.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnt.848 Which means at low RPM and with no phaser control, the intake valve is staying open well into the compression stroke, cutting static compression.

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mfree80286 did you seriously feel the need to blurt that out assuming I am unaware of how they operate? Feel better now? Do you want a cookie?

  • @joshausterlitz3798
    @joshausterlitz3798 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Usually when we use to see these come in (mostly the 2010 - 2015s) we could follow the trail of the water pump slowly failing (usually giving the owner several warnings like the steam Y pipe melting right under the hood, to the WIP pump RPM code coming on) and that would (combined with the inconsistency of the engine on off sometimes giving odd symptoms) cuz the coolant to get to hot in some areas blowing the headgasket over time. Back when i worked at T&L we use to have sooooooo many prius owners that if we caught the water pump early, this never happened. Don't think i ever saw a bad EGR on those priuses before (could be wrong) but alot of the time when we suspected a bad EGR but couldn't get it to leak like you did, we'd put it on the coolant flush machine and get it hot and sometimes they'd start pouring coolant.

  • @GeneCash
    @GeneCash หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "There is someone out there that can break it" - [looks around with side eye]

  • @curtbarile
    @curtbarile 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought a used 1989 nissan d21 pickup for 900$ 25 yrs ago has 400,000 plus miles and still runs like new, I keep up all services/ maint. my self.

  • @kepamurray1845
    @kepamurray1845 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    FFS Eric. Don't apologize about lost audio. You are giving all of this knowledge for free.
    Thanks again from Australia. I'm picking up stuff We rarely see here.
    If you ever head out here, I want to buy you a beer.
    That's not nothing, Albo is getting his pound of flesh with each schooner.

    • @AlrienJ
      @AlrienJ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not free, he makes money on ads

  • @johncleveland2526
    @johncleveland2526 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hydrolock via water ingestion. It has new plugs because they ran the water out, customer ran it for a while with a minor inter-layer HG failure consuming coolant. They likely brought it back with a ticking noise. Tech measured piston height through the plug holes, condemned with a bent rod.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Just did a head gasket on one of these POS powerplants at 145k miles. These are worse than old Subarus at eating head gaskets 😂
    Simple hack to avoid bent rods is to just loosen the radiator cap so system doesn't build pressure and fill the cylinders with coolant overnight after shut down 😆

    • @John-ny6yy
      @John-ny6yy หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Hows it a POS powerplant when most go 300k+.. Just another name hater🤡

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Subaru at 145k would be about due for it's 3rd engine

  • @jp-ny2pd
    @jp-ny2pd 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting, that water pump is basically just an over-grown version of an aquarium pump. The part you removed was a permanent magnet rotor. The electronics inside control the stator coils. In theory a good design since there's no rotating parts that need a seal. You just have the one housing o-ring seal for it all. Also since I think you basically have a rebuilder core, you should turbo charge it and put it into a golfcart or garden tractor.

  • @darrellborland119
    @darrellborland119 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Had a 3rd gen 2015 Prius and then a 4th gen. 2017 'til 120K...Adequate power, and excellent handling in 3 Touring model, when used correctly. 5.4 inches ground clearance and felt like a slot car on back road twisties... Now a 6th gen Subaru OB Turbo...and happy...no issues with either, but the 4th gen is far superior to the 3rd gen. PS: They will eat those V-rated tires, negating the economy of the car's MPG rating. Too bad they got away from the hatchback configuration...great utilitarian aspect. Thanks for memories. subscribed.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      why do they eat tires?

    • @KR-hg8be
      @KR-hg8be 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@solderbuff weight maybe? Doesnt seem like there's enough torque to chew em up.

  • @SplosionMovies
    @SplosionMovies หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jason over at EE was talking about how these little guys are set up by the nature of the hybrid system to go from cold start to high load almost immediately (depending on circumstance). I think that probably does most of the wear on these engines

    • @tails300
      @tails300 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Then why do these regularly reach 300k miles? Also that video was a clickbait for Mobile 1 to sell their overpriced “hybrid” engine oil.

  • @hirogodsend
    @hirogodsend หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    I'd recommend Engineering Explained's video on hybrids and oil. "It Turns Out, Hybrids Are Really Hard On Engines"

    • @abcortani
      @abcortani หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      He just release that video, the timing is kinda hilarious.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@abcortani its like we're all in a simulation, and its run by a hivemind.

    • @muddywater6856
      @muddywater6856 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      That video hit the nerve of a bunch of Prius fan bois😂😂

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@muddywater6856 i personally own a highlander hybrid. still love it.
      simple solution to the problem, oil change every 6 months, itll never collect enough water to even be noticed.
      power tailgate struts though, FUCK those things.

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perfect!

  • @RAKINAUS
    @RAKINAUS หลายเดือนก่อน

    From AUS, I like it. The head gasket looked really weird. It had black wrinkly bits where it was contacting the coolant and that black coating was falling off like the coolant had moonshine or ethanol petrol in it or something equally disolvey.
    Love your work and sad about your dog.

  • @N4HHE
    @N4HHE หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Prius has a 13:1 compression ratio. The apparent low compression is due to the variable intake valve timing limiting intake charge to emulate a low compression ratio. Atkinson Cycle. Can be changed in the fly.

    • @YZJB
      @YZJB หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Atkinson cycle just means the expansion ratio is greater than the compression ratio, which they do by holding the inlet valves open a bit during the compression stroke

    • @N4HHE
      @N4HHE หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@YZJB He said it was from a Prius, that means Toyota Synergy Drive, that means the engine fuel turns off, intake valves open, for speeds over 42 MPH when the engine is not needed.

    • @YZJB
      @YZJB หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@N4HHE they don’t leave the intake valves open when the engine is off, that’s actually impossible. If the engine stops at the right point you may have the inlet valves of one cylinder open or partially open, but you can’t have them all open

    • @N4HHE
      @N4HHE หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YZJB Prius turns engine off valves open while it is still spinning when going faster than 42 MPH. I’ve said this before and clearly you know nothing of the operation of the Toyota Synergy Hybrid System.

    • @YZJB
      @YZJB หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@N4HHE you don’t understand how an engine works.

  • @diegocastro8772
    @diegocastro8772 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had the same issue head gasket gave out after both water pump and thermostat seized up car never gave any lights but it did bend the intake and exhaust valve got lucky that I didn’t enter into the oil tho. 155K miles got the car completely checked out by Lexus and now she’s back on the road.

  • @alexjenkin4216
    @alexjenkin4216 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i own a 2013 prius v just hit 171k miles oil change every 10k had the trans fluid changed at 100k miles 1 wheel bearing replaced on 3rd set of tiers 2 coolant flushes 1 starter battery replaced original one lasted 6 years and wonder if its worth doing fuel treatment

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please, please, please, change your oil twice that often.

  • @richardharvey1732
    @richardharvey1732 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi I D C's, this one at about twenty eight minutes when you show us the bent rod, given the appearance of the rest of it all suggests to me that the head gasket leak allowed the significant ingress of coolant into that cylinder when the engine was cooling that caused the issues when it was re-started, possibly it did actually fire up but did not run for very long. This could account for the distribution of coolant in other parts of the engine.
    None of this of course will account for why the head gasket failed to start with.
    Cheers, Richard.

  • @briancox2721
    @briancox2721 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Once again, the milkshake brings all the engines to the yard.

    • @68404
      @68404 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think that's a different type of motor ;-)

    • @mystisith3984
      @mystisith3984 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That or tap water for cooling. Pick your literal poison...😈

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And they're like, it's still better than a Subaru

  • @PaulMilenkovic
    @PaulMilenkovic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a wedge-shaped tool that is tapped gently into an RTVed seal to pop an oil pan off. It runs about 50 bucks but I consider it worth it to not dent up a pan you remove.

  • @gophergarage
    @gophergarage หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Left lane....
    That was too good!! True however lol

  • @RickTrajan
    @RickTrajan 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Worked on a hybrid camry cab where the beige part of the water pump got swollen - I believe it had a code for the water pump that's why I replaced it but it was 5 years ago or more.

  • @speeddemon1092
    @speeddemon1092 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Not a car tech, but I see this type of water pump all the time with computer water cooling. The major advantage of these kinds of pumps is that there's only 1 contact surface and no rotating/shaft seals, so as long as they've got the correct coolant and are kept in temperature spec, they'll last a long time, basically as long as the electronics or the bearing surface does. The problems start when you overheat them or run them dry.
    Unlike a conventional belt-driven pump that is (more) tolerant of being run dry and doesn't really have anything that needs to be cooled (like coils or the electronics package), electric pumps like this require their motor coils and the electronics package to be kept within operating spec, and they absolutely ****CANNOT**** be run dry. The coolant serves as lubricant for the bearing surfaces, and running it dry has the same effect as not having enough oil in an engine (which we've all seen). For the eletronics and coils, and I'll repeat myself on this, they must be kept cooled; for every 10C/50F hotter a component gets and runs sustained at, the remaining lifetime gets cut in half. Motor coils that get overheated start degrading and burning their insulation, and when it fails entirely, you get a short, and the coil becomes useless.

  • @scottallberry
    @scottallberry หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont have a prius, but i do have a kia niro hybrid. Its not just that the engine shuts off at stop signs and starts when you touch the gas. The electric motor has more than enough power to get the car moving, while the engine starts...or while starting the engine, depending on design (kia has 2 clutches, 1 for engine, 1 for motor/generator. It uses one or both as needed). But when that hot engine shut down, then you start moving and the engine restarts its got a 30hp motor pushing it, as well as the inertia of the car pushing that crank. If coolant pooled, your bending a rod

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I don't think this was an isolated incident. The clean piston shows it's been "steam cleaned" for a while. Then, after shutdown, the electric pump kept filling the cylinder and a bent rod is the result of the starter motor having a great amount of torque.

    • @N4HHE
      @N4HHE หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Prius doesn’t have a starter motor. Uses smallest of the two Synergy motors, probably 20 hp to spin up to 1200 RPM with valves open then closes valves, adds fuel, engine often runs from first beat.

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@N4HHE Yeah, that's the 'starter motor' that was being referenced...

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@N4HHE There's no VANOS-like mechanism on this engine, the exhaust side doesn't even have variable timing.

    • @N4HHE
      @N4HHE หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mfree80286 It does. Toyota leaves the intake valves open, fuel off, when ICE not needed above 42 MPH. The little motor-generator would over-rev if ICE not turning so they leave it spinning with intake valves open no fuel.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The water pump running after shutdown wouldn't contribute to failure, the whole system is pressurised when up to temperature so any breech will leak water until the engine has cooled down and coolant pressure reduced.

  • @bradleypollack5658
    @bradleypollack5658 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My 2017 Honda Pilot The rod bearings went out at 80k miles.

  • @houstonbinkley1844
    @houstonbinkley1844 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So, toyota still hasn't put any overheat protection in their tuning. Prius drivers are worse than Kia owners when it comes to maintenance. Every warning light to them means "just keep driving" I've several of these that customers cooked due to cooling system damage.....

  • @egn83b
    @egn83b 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well if you read on forums online toyota prius heads have issues with walking head bolts. Over time they loosen to leak. This is a thermal issue. The other issue is at 150k miles the bearing surfaces in the water pump stick and the pump will not turn. Pumps are 100k mile wear item.

  • @mattt198654321
    @mattt198654321 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    1:40 For the record, I got my 2010 prius up to 113 mph (on a closed course...er, yeah). Those bodies are slippery AF, they make the most of the 122 HP.

    • @kcstein5956
      @kcstein5956 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It doesn't take much to get to that speed though. My 07 Aveo hatch with the 1.4 wrapped the speedo countless of times

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My '01 Daewoo Leganza would easily hit ~125mph with just a little more power than you have/had in your Prius. Aero does account for a lot.
      It wouldn't do it for long though, you'd be hard pressed to find any engine that would be 'regular car' cheap and live at ~7000+rpm for useful lengths of time....

  • @Andrew-vd2ko
    @Andrew-vd2ko หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Question.
    Are you sure that rachet was 1/4th inch, I would of thought it was more 3/8th inch.
    Just checking...
    Love these videos of yours, now watching it for the second time today...

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Me at the start of the video: I wonder if this engine had a bad head gasket
    19:32 Yep, there’s the 2ZR-FXE for ya. I’ve seen a lot of Prius’s on facebook marketplace like this, and the owners junked their car because they tried fixing it by pouring head gasket sealer instead of just properly fixing the head gasket

    • @edifyguy
      @edifyguy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why can they not be repaired properly after this? Cylinder wall and ring damage?

    • @Daschickenify
      @Daschickenify 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@edifyguy They can be repaired, by doing something closer to what eric is doing than pouring in a $10 bottle of 'head gasket fix' and crossing your fingers..

    • @edifyguy
      @edifyguy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Daschickenify Well, of course, I know engines.......what I meant is, do these routinely destroy the block when they do this? Else, what's to stop someone from rebuilding the engine instead of junking it?

  • @danteeightsix
    @danteeightsix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm very disappointed Camry only comes in hybrid now.
    I'm sticking with my 2.7L Tacoma until I retire.

  • @Gapines23
    @Gapines23 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Prius been chewing up motors again recently, I’m blaming drivers/maintenance

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could be a similar situation to the old 1MZ, which got a rep for oil sludge because it couldn't be run with zero maintenance like other Toyota engines, when in fact it's one of the most reliable DOHC engines ever made.

  • @Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om
    @Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember when the Prius first came out my mom wanted one bad, I talked into buying a older Camry with very low miles instead.

  • @patrickkennedy2533
    @patrickkennedy2533 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Briggs & Stratton compression

    • @N4HHE
      @N4HHE หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prius has a mechanical 13:1 compression. Seems low because the variable valve timing holds the intake valves open by default. Atkinson Cycle engine.

  • @ComputersAndCoffey
    @ComputersAndCoffey วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a bit of a nitpick. I don’t thinks this came out of a 2016. 2016 has the cartridge oil filter. Guessing this is a 17 or newer.

  • @shinski8114
    @shinski8114 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    why is there so many dislikes

  • @russellstyles5381
    @russellstyles5381 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Apparently, hybrid engines are at risk because they sometimes run short duty cycles, and don't stay hot enough.
    Depends on what flavor hybrid. Some hybrids run the gasoline engine nearly all the time, and don't have this problem.

    • @0bzen22
      @0bzen22 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toyota's run the engine if it's too cold, or if starting up. At least mine does (Corolla TS 196). More often than not, ICE kicks in from cold. I never use EV mode. When on the road, the engine doesn't drop its temperature that much.
      That's a major inefficiency especially in the winter, and why I use about 10% more fuel overall. Starting up on short trips and warming up (like any other engine), not good for the economy.
      But yes, the engine is constantly being turned on an off, it's been like that forever for Toyota hybrids, I don't think it's an inherent issue. A lot of them do 300K easy.

  • @thomasrbishop8736
    @thomasrbishop8736 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video.
    I'm just amaze how a engine is put together.
    With so many parts that it takes to build them anymore.
    One mistake will make it failed down the road.

  • @mikemacch
    @mikemacch หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is true armature swells and stops the motor. Very common, blew my grandsons engine because he disregarded fault on water pump!

  • @tsimpson007
    @tsimpson007 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Glad you are back. Saw you on Ray's channel, along with A Rod. Glad you guys are getting together.

  • @SailingTalisman
    @SailingTalisman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It doesn't take that much force to bend a connecting rod. I suspect the engine was shut down with a failing head gasket that had already started turning the oil milky. This allowed the cylinder to fill with 1/2" or so of coolant. Then the rod bent on startup. The engine either locked up or pushed the liquid free of the cylinder. Car was likely returned to the dealer immediately since this would be an "event", possibly covered under extended warranty. Also, there was probably white smoke predating said event. Other answers don't work, and would be distributed along the rest of the cylinders as well. Plus, lack of damage to bearings show that the "cleaning" of the system was brief.

  • @Bowhunters6go8xz6x
    @Bowhunters6go8xz6x หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Air compresses, Water not so much ! Another good reason to flush and replace the coolant when recommended is that coolant has lubricants that lube the water pump.

  • @ThisisForTheTV
    @ThisisForTheTV หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The egr system clogges up and mostly flows to 1 or 2 cylinders. Those 2 cylinders experiences predetonation knock which spikes cylinder pressure and weakens an already weak head gasket. Then part 2, between the cooling systems 14psi and the water pump pushing coolant into the cylinder while not running it fills enough to hydraulic when the 40HP MG1 motor starts the engine. There are like 5 different intake manifold designs to minimize egr port clogging. But it mostly comes from lack of maintenance to the egr system, even the oil burning problem had ALOT to do with the egr system being neglected. And the higher amount of heat cycles from a hybrid also accelerate weakening the head gasket. 18:58 The leak is almost always between cylinders 1 & 2 into cylinder 2, you can see the black sealer missing between 1 & 2 the bare metal gasket at the coolant port is where it let go.

    • @jacquesc3166
      @jacquesc3166 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holy explanation, take it you've rebuilt a few..? Wondering if the owner would have known before failure here, in the form of white smoke out the tail pipe.....

  • @liver.flush.maestro
    @liver.flush.maestro หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the design of the electric water pump. There is no weep hole, and it can't leak like a traditional water pump through its axle.

  • @jabberwockytdi8901
    @jabberwockytdi8901 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd look for signs of escaping smoke on the PCB , but if commenters are saying armature swells up then that means fluid is getting in the moulding and if people don't use coolant the magnets will corrode and swell up , but that would be something toyota ought to have fixed by now?