I’ve actually was told to change prefilter every 2 months and every 6 for post. I got their water for life plan so I pay a base price for the filters every few months. I find it to be worth it.
I installed the Aquasana Rhino Cholaramine version plus salt free water conditioner 400,000 gallon. We have chloramine added to our Southern California water. After our 3rd slab leak in our 29 year old copper pipes, research, plumbers and insurance adjusters pointed out the Choramine was a part of the problem. Water feels great and taste wonderful now. Two notes. A. Water is cloudy and awful for a few days of new install (even with proper water cleaning at install) but then becomes crystal clear and yummy tasting. B) After 3 weeks of use I see bottom of toilets browner than normal, which I assume is from removal of chloramine disinfectants. So will work on a natural solution for that. I would rather have that then the disinfectant in my family stomach and skin.
I think we are going to switch to the same in another year when ours is due to replace. I also noticed the brown spots in the toilets wuth our standard carbon filter, so must be common with both since chlorine and/or chloramine is removed.
Don't know if this has been mentioned but the activated charcoal will take bacteria out, but bacteria will build up on charcoal and start putting more bacteria in the water over time. Bleach needs to be run over charcoal once a month it strips a layer off and you have fresh charcoal. Thanks for the vid
Hi Nathalie - I have to get spares too. I took my small canister to tje local hardware store and just matched one up. I also think that Auqsana sells replacements as well.
Hi There! This video and moreso the comments and your responses have been super helpful for me. I am about to make a purchase for a small one bathroom house I am building in Puerto Rico. Question - Now that you've had the OptimH2O for awhile, do you prefer it to the Rhino? I was thinking about getting one of these two, and then adding Aquasana's RO unit under the kitchen sink. Would that be overkill if I got the OptimH20? Also, I have heard, and read about bacteria growing on the carbon block??? Please let me know your thoughts here, and thank you so much! Show less
Hi! I'm so glad I was able to help and love the feedback! As far as the Rhino vs the OptimH2O, here are some of the main points that I kept in mind as I debated. The OptimH2O: * does remove chlorine, chloramines, forever chemicals that now seem to be in all of our water like PFAS, PFOA, etc. The Rhino only gets the chlorine. * The main carbon block filter needs no plumber or tools to replace (assemble/disassemble) like the Rhino does. Just pull and replace. * The carbon block has less contact time in the system, reducing the likelihood of bacteria growth - 12 months vs 5 or 10 years with Rhino (thats a long time) . The carbon block filter is more expensive tho, but is higher performance as stated above. * Adding the RO under sink - overkill? Well maybe, but for the low cost, I figured it's worth it, and I got one too. It filters beyond a carbon block for ultra filtration to the max - for drinking water only. Not for espresso machines tho. Its so filtered it can mess with the water sensors. * Bacteria - I do wonder about my old Rhino, due to age and length of exposure. Again, why I like the Optim H2O - 1 year. But you can always follow the RO disinfection steps that come with the RO and perform it for both the system and RO a few times per year or say if you went on vacation for a 2 weeks+ and the water was static. Flush and you should be good to go. Hope this helps! And if you don't mind, use my link if you decide to purchase. It helps me to continue to make content 👍 visit.myoldhousefix.com/aquasana
One last thought bacteria/algae growth - I do know a few years back they switched from clear filter canisters to opaque due to this issue. It seems to have helped, but I haven't heard of anything lately.
Hi Ajay, yes after you've cleaned up the chlorine, sediment, heavy metals, and water hardness, for all your mechanicals and drinking water, you can go one step further with their RO filter for drinking ( about $200). This is an additional step to remove chemicals, pesticides, etc... They also have a new carbon block filter that replaces one of my tanks and then you dont need the separate RO
I see the discussion about hardness removal and the softener system, but the system includes a "water conditioner", not a "water softener", correct? When researching systems, there is such a big debate about the difference and effectiveness of each.
Hi Brian, from what I understand its more of an ion exchange vs "physical" water change like when adding salt. More info here - www.aquasana.com/whole-house-water-filters/salt-free-water-conditioner-100237297.html
Looks good, I would add 1/4" sample ports and gauges in between tanks to monitor water softening and chlorine levels and delta pressure pre & post tanks
@harman singh hi! The system info is at the Aquasans site here -bit.ly/2NzuUwb and the pressure gauges I added from your local hardware store/Lowes...hope this helps!
Hi Chris most of what you see came with the Pro Install Kit that they also sell. Otherwise the fittings are are all male/female 3/4" fittings. For the tank I didn't want to use pvc glue, so those are male 1" if I remember correctly. Does that help?
Definitely gives me a heads up. I’ll also do a pre set up and take a look at everything. I don’t want to deal with pvc either 😂 Thanks for having this video though and showing it can be done that way! I did get the pro install kit as well. Just need to get my installation area ready for it now and have at it. Doing it for a well system.
@@chrishampton5854 cool, glad to help! The only pex I had to buy was for the bypass loop and entry/exit feeds on the main line. Other that that don't forget your gages at each end, so is pressure ever drops you can verify input pressure vs after the filter system (clogged filter, etc) 👍
I picked up 2 standard water pressure gauges from my local hardware store (no name/china). 0-100 psi. It's 3/8" male thread, so you'll need two adapters - 1) 3/8" female to 3/4" female 2) 3/4" male to 3/4" pex nipple. Ring clamp it. 👍
Are Hahn and aquasana the same? Where do you get the filters? My post-filter is not made of paper like that it’s made of the same hard material as your pre filter.
Hi @big Mack, yep they sure are. Aquasana is sold at Costco under the Hahn name (I have it). You can get your pre and post filters here (and save some $ if you get the water for life recurring shipments) - click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwater-filter-replacements%2F
Yep we had it tested for a baseline. The pressure dropped slightly. Our water pressure is at 52psi input from the street. With one high flow faucet running, like an unrestricted laundry sink, it drops to 48-50psi. Turn on a second high flow faucet like a kitchen sink, pot filler, or shower and it drops to about 36-38psi.
I have my filter system for almost three years but why the water still coming dirty and I can see this color when I use the washing machine with white clothes is necesary to change the system please ?
Do you have ANY old galvanized pipes between the exit of the filter and each point of use? If so the water will sit and rust...turning brown and staining white clothes. This happened to us and I had to replace our existing galvanized pipe. This fixed the problem and was not related to the filter system 👍
heres the link to the info. I also cover those details at the end of the video... click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters
You showed the filter canisters attached and then you showed them unattached. How did you get from one to the next? How did you get them reattached afterward? Thanks.
Hey Chris, can you please 🙏 give us an update how this system is working?. My water softener just died and I'm thinking of replacing it with this Aquasana system. I looked at Amazon and it has really bad reviews. I trust yours!.
@@AnnaLaurasZone hey, so this comment may get lengthy, but here's the issues we have locally with water, so yours may differ. Are you familiar with all the PFAS/PFOS issues popping up everywhere? This drove our decision making on what to buy. I have a ton of info I researched here - myoldhousefix.com/2018/07/22/tap-water-safe-drink/
@@AnnaLaurasZone so now you have the background, there are basically 3 options you can choose - from cheapest to most expensive. 1) Rhino Filtration System with salt free Softener - this is what we have now. It DID reduce hardness from about 14/16 grains of hardness down to 6. The faucets and showers cleared up and clothes came cleaner. I'd say it was 90% effective. My goal was 4 grains, so it got close. It also removes chlorine, heavy metals, pesticides, etc. What is doesnt do - it does not remove chloramines (see blog) or hit the high 90% marks for the PFAS and other chemicals. 2) Optim H2O filter with same Softener - now that our Rhino System is almost 6 years old, the tanks have to be replaced soon(the 2 middle ones) so we decided to upgrade to this unit. 2 reasons - the carbon block filter is better, filters out PFAS/PFOS and chloramines...AND it is a few hundred dollars cheaper to operate. On this System, you keep all the tanks and just swap internal cartridges. I also added UV. This system ALMOST gets you to an RO system...but whole house. 3) We also added an RO system to the OptimH2O, since it's only $200 for single point RO drinking water at the fridge. I haven't installed the new system yet, and it may be a bit overboard, but water is so contaminated nowadays, we dont want to take chances. Ann Arbor has a Dioxane plume, lead issues, and PFAS/PFOS from heavy industry. If you live near carpet mfrs, military bases, and airports... the waterways there are contaminated too. Check out the blog, and I hope this helps! 👍
@@AnnaLaurasZone Our City started talking about the contamination and even though our City installed a carbon system, there are still miles of old pipes and connections that probably pose issues like lead, etc. Did you know that the EWC has identified 400+ water contaminates, yet on average, municipalities only treat for about 80-100. It's scary as we gain the tech to test for more contaminates...yet treatment at the municipal level is lacking. I'm sure you heard about Flint, MI. I originally had Culligan Water come out and test for the general stuff like hardness, iron, and pH, but I didn't want their salt softening system. I also wrote a blog on drinking water over on our site - That's when I came across Aquasana, during the research. So I had somewhat of a baseline for the basics, and did a follow up with water hardness strips (Lowes, HD, etc). I'm also into the home barista thing, so a local friend and coffee shop owner gave me a LaMarzocco water test as well (I think you can buy on Amazon - water test for espresso machines. Its a card type test ) - post testing for pH, hardness, iron, chlorine, etc and the Rhino System reduced to acceptable levels. As for filters, I just signed up for the water for life program to get the discount.
Hi John, 1) My Rhino System here does NOT remove fluoride - it removes 97% of chlorine and reducing other harmful contaminants including lead, mercury, herbicides, pesticides, VOCs, and more. 2) The OptimH20 whole house system (carbon block) - is IAPMO tested and certified to NSF/ANSI Standard 53 (includes P473), the system reduces more than 99% of lead and cysts, 98% of PFOA/PFOS, and tackles chlorine, chloramines, and more. 3) OptimH2O® Reverse Osmosis + Claryum - This under sink reverse osmosis system is tested and certified to NSF/ANSI Standards 42, 53 (includes P473), 58, and 401 to effectively reduce 88 contaminants, including 95% of fluoride. It’s also certified to remove 95% of mercury, 97% of chlorine and arsenic, and 99% of lead and asbestos while maintaining the benefits of healthy minerals other reverse osmosis systems remove. In all, the OptimH2O® Reverse Osmosis + Claryum® removes 5X more contaminants than other RO systems. - $224. LINK HERE - LINK HERE Given that my Rhino system is now due for replacement after 6 years (the 2 middle tanks) I will be upgrading to the OptimH20 whole-house system and the RO for drinking water. Bottom line, you can remove the fluoride and EVERYTHING else for as low as $224 on the under sink Claryum system - its just one single point of use, though. Then add as needed for any whole-house concerns to soften, limescale, filter, remove chlorine/chloramines from showers and your mechanical equipment (boilers, espresso, hot water, etc). Hope this helps John!
My house goes from city water to well water at times. Such a pain in the Angus. Well water is so disgusting I can't see through a glass filled with sink water. So when I see options for city water or well water, I'm stuck because my city decides on both
I think Aquasana may have a FIX for you in this situation. Hit the link in the video description. When you land on the whole house filter system page...select WELL WATER. This system will cover both sources City and Well. You'll also want the UV with well water. And I even added their under sink Claryum RO, just to be safe. Also, get yourwell water tested to see just what's in it, especially these new "forever" chemicals like PFAS.
@@myoldhousefix you're right mate. I'm dying over here, my skin has aged 5 years in 40 days. I just googled well water systems and came across aquasana as the first listing. Do you believe this is the top tier company and system? I went through the comments and see you're probably with the Optim system now, and using the RO under the sink for additional removal like fluoride. I was about to go straight tribal and distill water and use a bucket in the squat position in my tub lol I'll probably go optim, salt free, and UV. Getting it for my dad because I don't want to lose him early to some of the many poisonous additions to our food, water, air etc
Yes! That would eliminate the chlorine spots on your cars. I bypassed my spigot to outside because we water our grass a lot, so that would shorten the filter life.
Aquasana says it does - "Get clean, great-tasting water from every tap in your home by removing 97% of chlorine in regular tap water. Also reduces other harmful contaminants including": Heavy metals like lead and mercury Organic chemicals like herbicides, pesticides and VOCs Industrial solvents and more
@@michaeld954 interesting...what are their complaints? If you notice I did install Sharkbite fittings at the tanks, instead of the plastic, PVC and glued fittings supplied. It didnt make sense for me to install a filter and then use toxic glue. I did confirm that it brought our water hardness down from 12-14 grains...down to about 6. And as you can see in the video its catching a lot of sediment from our city mains.
Hi there, since you have this filter system for years, can you share with me if everything works well the whole time? I'm about to install this brand, but I see how people complain on Amazon about this water softener system, that makes me worry. Thanks
Hi. Here's my experience so far. We've had ours installed for almost 5 years now and haven't had any issues. Just replace the filters as recommended and that's it. I can say that the water softener does work well even with our super hard water. It took ours from about 16 grains down to 6 grains. We dont get the clogged shower heads and washing machine water hoses anymore. It also removes all the chlorine in our city water.
I'm in SoCal and I just got mine installed today. I installed it in the garage and it took me a while to install all the fittings. I had to cut my drywall to get access to city water line. Then the space in the drywall was so tight that I couldn't get my crimper in there. Definitely not that easy installation as installing it in a basement. I have the 1M gallon without UV system. My system came with all brass hardware. Originally, it came with 3/4" hardware, but I called customer service and and sent me 1" hardware for free.
good point! I try to design my projects with maintenance in mind: 1) when the tanks need to be replaced, or to make repairs (replace psi gauge, etc) or fix leaks, the Sharkbites make it a LOT easier and simplify the disassembly and reassembly 2: the system comes with plastic fittings requiring pvc glue to install (fixed installation). I couldnt see buying a filtration system to clean my water, then introduce the PVC glue contaminates, therefore the Sharkbites are a win/win 👍
This one doesnt (only chlorine and heavy metals, etc), but hit my link to their Website in the video description. They have a Teverse Osmosis and under counter flouride filtration.
At least you have city water. Imagine using that for well water, which is what we have at our primary home. The filters would probably get dirty much faster. We used to have a water softener, but that broke a couple decades ago & we haven't gotten it repaired. Instead, for potable water, we buy bottled water & we also transfer several gallons of city tap water via clean gallon jugs from our other home in a different city an hour away. We then just use the unfiltered well water for washing dishes & sometimes for showers. Sounds kinda tedious, but at least we are saving money at the moment by not using a softener or filters. I would love to get a huge water distilling system for our well water, but that would probably cost a lot. By the way, does the pre-filter also act as a spin-down filter? I think a whole-house spin-down centrifugal filter at the pre-stage would help relieve the other filters down the line of a lot of the larger particles such as sediment & sand. And a spin-down filter does not need replacing, only cleaning, iirc, which would save you money on filter replacements.
@@myoldhousefix ... You might want to look into using a spin-down filter then, if you haven't already. Ask around. It might replace one of your prefilters, or it could be an additional filter, idk. But it does not require using disposables, because all you basically do is empty the filtered contents into a bucket once it becomes full & then it's ready again, so it could be used for years & save you money down the road, who knows. But since you are on tap water, there's probably less large-micron particles in that water. Yet I would still at least try to see if a spin-down might be a money-saver in your filtering loop.
Hi Boe, this one does NOT remove Arsenic...and I don't think it removes Radon either. You would need their Reverse Osmosis (point of use)System - bit.ly/3bPFLln
I purchase the aquasana system, And in the installation instructions it says to put the water filter system before the salt free water conditioner, At least the diagram that they have laid out is made that way. I notice you did the opposite.
Hi, do you have the Rhino or the Optim H2O? Check out the installation video here. There is a note * order of components may vary bu model. It liiks like the Rhino is correct - softerner goes first. BUT on Optim H2O it shows the filter first. Hope that helps - www.aquasana.com/product-installation-videos.html#wholehouse
Hello, thank you for the informative video. We have well water and it’s very hard. Do you know what kind of numbers you would get if you tested with the tds tester? For example even at your home? I just want to make sure it’s as low as it can be etc.
Hi, yes...from our water testing, we were told that any reading over 5-6 should be treated. Ours was 17, and the Aquasana brought it down to 6, so pretty good performance considering our terrible rating. Here's a sample: Once you test your water and get your number, see where your water quality falls using the guide below: 0-3: If your hard water test strip indicates that your water is between 0-3 grains per gallon, your water doesn’t require softening. 3-7: Water between 3-7 gpg is moderately hard, causing spotty dishes and dry skin. 7-11: Hard water is packed with minerals at 7-11 gpg, and you likely deal with crusty faucets and pipes and possibly reddish rings on your porcelain from excess iron. 11-15: Considered very hard, water at 11-15 gpg exhibits all the signs of hard water all the time. 15+: Extremely hard water is anything over 15 gpg.
@@myoldhousefix thanks for the response so our number of hardness was 17 as well. So that’s one issue that we want fixed however we currently use a zero filter for drinking water that when you test the water with a tds tester it’s at 0. So my question is what was your before and after tds number ? Our number currently is 392 before any filtering. I’m trying to see how much lower it will go hypothetically speaking etc
@@olusialovesgod9724 you're welcome! I don't think we ever tested with a tds meter, just checked hardness (gpg), iron, pH, etc. The Aquasana runs water through a 5 micron pre-filter for sediments, then the Softener (ion exchange), then the carbon media filter for heavy metals, chlorine contaminates, etc, then a 0.5 micron post-filter, and lastly UV light (recommended for well water) for crypto, etc. They have a specific well water version of mine that you'll want to select if you decide to go with a whole house system. Your zero water pitcher may be fine for drinking water, but the Aquasana really comes in for a whole house solution to help with appliance and faucet iron, limescale, etc. Water can really harm your espresso machine, dishwasher, boiler, hot water heater, etc.
In the functioning mode, on my system the lever to the water is open when horizontal. But the levers that lead to the tanks are vertical which makes me think they are closed. I am confused as to which way is open and which way is closed.
you are correct, ball valves are usually in the OPEN position when the lever is parallel to line or pipe (running in the same direction). If you have a service bypass, you would still havewater, just not filtered water if the filter valves are "off". 👍
I have city water and have 12 grains/gal with ph 2.5/3.0 and zero iron. In your personal opinion, when this system “salt free” do a good job as a salt water softener?
Hi Freddy! It does. For example our city water is extremely hard at 14 grains. I had to use CLR on the shower heads every 4-6 months and even on our washer, or it would overflow from limescale. This system reduced it to 6 grains. Optimal is 4 to 5, but I'd say with our water this bad, it performs well.
Hi Chris, I am on City water. With our house and city pipes being really old, I didnt want to take chances...our filters come out nasty when I change them. Also our water is super hard, thus its really hard on our faucets, boiler, and appliances (limescale). We also have PFOS and Dioxane which the city cannot rwmove 100%. I also added an RO at piont of use for that, as well...
I have a similar setup, I also have the UV light. I have a question, if you leave any water that has been filtered out through this system and left standing for a while, do you notice a clear film start to develop on top? On mine standing water will start to form an odd clear film on the top. In contacting aquasana they told me it was because of the ion exchange the sodium floats to the top since it has nothing to join with which is what I see. I haven't heard of anyone else with this issue.
Hi Gabriel, I haven't noticed, but I don't usually leave any water standing. The ion exchange makes sense as it doesn't last forever - 36 hrs I think. I will put some in a glass and see what happens tho. Now, once when we went on vacation for a month, I did get a little film build up on top of the post filter rubber top. So that probably tracks to what you are seeing.
@@myoldhousefix I noticed my water will start to form the film after maybe 2-3 hours. I ended up getting a reverse osmosis under my kitchen sink to counter that from happening and it's worked so far. I just found it odd that I can't find people anywhere mentioning it. I originally discovered it because I did a before/after tests on my water after the system was installed and we left the water cups out and came back later to see the film and it had only formed on the after cups.
@@ninjaman96 hey, so I filled a glass of water and left it for 6 hours amd it's crystal clear. And my system is 5 years old now. Looks like you may have something else going on?
Hi Jack, yes, its in the video description - click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters
The flow rate for this system is just 7.0 GPM, do you not find this kind of low? I was thinking about getting this but am now considering other systems due to this low flow rate.
Our water pressure is at 52psi input from the street. With one high flow faucet running, like an unrestricted laundry sink, it drops to 48-50psi. Turn on a second high flow faucet like a kitchen sink, pot filler, or shower and it drops to about 36-38psi.
Do not use mineral oil on the o-ring, it is petroleum based and will break down the rubber and eventually a leak will occur. So use siliconized grease instead..
Good question Chris. Both sets of tanks look the same for the softener and the actual filter. The softener goes first (right center) then the 2 stage filter (left center).
@@myoldhousefix i have the digital device home forest YL TDS2 A. I get between 500 to 600 tds, no change with the expensive house filter that got installed
@@myoldhousefix oh I didn't install that system. They installed a Ultima filter without softener. I'm looking to buy something better. My water is no good enough and my wife is complaining of hair loss
@@jaimeim18 yes, a filter alone wont soften the water. It will remove chlorine, sediment and minerals, but if it's hard water, you need a softener. The softener reduces limescale and hardness. We used to have to dip our showerheads in CLR every 4- 6 months...now maybe once a year or longer...
Hi Jeremy, just slightly. Our water pressure is at 52psi input from the street. With one high flow faucet running, like an unrestricted laundry sink, it drops to 48-50psi. Turn on a second high flow faucet like a kitchen sink, pot filler, or shower and it drops to about 36-38psi.
@@myoldhousefix I could be wrong but I can't see that making a difference. You only get so many gallons per minute from your water source so adding another system wouldn't make a difference. You would have to increase your water main size then split off to a second water treatment system then tie both lines together after the water is treated. Alot of calculations would have to be done so your sizing is right on or youd be dropping alot cash for nothing.
@@fortunatedad7695 yeah I agree, lots of logistics and issues to overcome. Thats why I dont mind the slight drop in pressure...the fix for me isnt worth the time and money
This system does not, but it does remove chlorine. For Flouride, you'll need their Reverse Osmosis filter, avoit $200. Hit the link in the description and just navigate to the "under sink" Optim H2O RO System.
Hi Bernard, I added the Pro Install Kit whiich came with the fittings for the bypass loop. The rest I added instead of the plastic ones. Hope this helps!
Have you ever had your water tested? Take a sample of untreated and compare to treated? People get skeeved out by the rust, but it's typically a benign contaminant - it's the heavy metals/pesticides/chemicals that are the stuff to worry about but few seem to care and it's hard to find reliable info that isn't marketing hype. $800 for the large filters is about $500 too much - nothing but some inexpensive filter media inside a few tanks. But thanks for showing installation setup and maintenance.
Hi Arthur, great question. Yep, we bought it for the reasons you listed below, and because our water is super hard and we wanted a salt-free solution. Additionally, our city ( like many) are now finding PFAS and PFOS contamination as well. It is hard to find reliable info, but we felt better with Aquasana having an NSF certification.
Arthur, as far as the contaminate list, I have only performed limited testing so far since we installed the whole -house system (to make sure our water wouldn't destroy our espresso machine) - hardness, iron, pH, etc. Our hardness went from 16 down to about 6 grains. Our hard water was destroying our mechanicals - from limescale. Now our showerheads only need cleaning every uear, instead of every month.
Hi Terrence, their point of use filters start at about $200 (RO) to about $1400 for a million gallon filter, softener, pro install kit setup. They also have upgrades to catch chloramines and carbon block for PFAS (RO is cheaper).
Hi Terrence, yes we are on city water so UV is not a requirement like it would be with well water. Although, our city does report sporadic crypto vases, so UV probably isnt a bad idea...just in case. I'll probably add UV during my next major tank swap out (im 4 years into this 6 yr system).
@@myoldhousefix Hi Chris, Thanks for your speedy reply. After I watched your video I did more research on UV lighting and found it can be quite costly and the lights lose almost 50% of their efficiency after only 6 months use. SO I guess for many people who are thinking about this feature on their system, they should really give some serious thought as to if this is even needed in their circumstance. In my specific case I would be using this system to filter collected rain water from my storage tank for all my needs so I'm not certain if I would even need to add the UV filter on my system. I will say without a doubt that I would surely be using the aquasana filter system.
Hi Suzanne, good question! The only "seals" in the entire system is a rubber o-ring at each light blue filter canisters (2 o-rings rotal). They are only a few dollars, and last 3-4 years before needing replaced, in my experience. You can see the black o- ring when I an at the sink on the close-up shot.
We've had ours for 6 years now and no issues. Just filter and canister O-ring replacement...thats it. Heres the link to their Whole House Filter System page for various models - click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters%2F
Hi Chris, this is Chris. Excellent system setup! Please post more information about the pressure gauges you used and how you attached. I am preparing to install a similar system in about a month. One suggestion... add a water meter to confirm flow and need to change filters (sooner or even later), I am opting for the water meter "Assured Automation WM-PC" analog model 1" size. Thank you again for the set-up details and design layout. Thank you in advance for any insight into the pressure gauges.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I have part of my answer to the pressure gauge set-up...please correct me if wrong... You used 1/4" fitting pressure gauges, connected with 1/4" to 3/4" brass hex adapter, connected to 3/4" adapter to sharkbite (Everflow Supplies Pushlock UPMC134 1 Inch x 3/4 Inch Long Push X Male Adapter Push-Fit Fittings) ? Or is it 1"?
Hi Chris, yes I installed one before the system and one after so I can monitor, if needed. I have about 52psi in, and about 49-50 out. I just used a t fitting, pen, and two 100 psi gauges from the local hardware store. Best of luck with yours, and glad to help!
Hi Julie, yes it does. If your water us super hard like our was (14-18 grains) it wont eliminate 100%, but it reduced ours to 6 grains...pretty good considering. We went from cleaning the scale off our shower head monthly, to onve a year. And no salt, drains, and waste water...👍
@@myoldhousefix Hi Chris, Do you know where in the 14 - 18 range you were? I am at 12 grains. If you were at 16 and got down to 6, then I would hope to get from 12 down to 2. I am trying to figure out if I should use a Potassium Chloride system or an Aquasana. Any updates since you posted this a year ago? Thanks!!
Hi@@danroscigno187 great question. Let me pull up my original report to see if I can find it. What I like about the softener is its salt free, no brine water to deal with, no drains, and no electricity needed...
I'm thinking about getting their well water system. I'm ambivalent about the water conditioner. Do you think it leaves the water less healthy for drinking than without the conditioner?
The filter side will still clean the water the same, the softerner is for hard water and limescale. We dudnt want to use salt. How hard is your water? Our was so bad that our soap wouldnt foam, our showerheads would clog with limescale in 2-3 months, and that was wrecking our appliances - on demand boiler/hot water, dishwasher, espresso machine, and washing machine.
@@myoldhousefix Your water sounded extremely hard prior to the install. Did it help with that. I’ve been looking for something to help with that for the water in my area. That’s my number one going to a whole house water filter.
@@daverevollo5647 yes, we started at about 14 grains and this system got us down to about 6 grains. 4 to 5 is ideal, but our water was so hard, this is close enough 👍
you'll probably want to talk to them about their well water system... you can also read more here - www.mrwatergeek.com/iron-water-filter/#Iron_Removal_Filter_For_Home_Aquasana_500000_Gallon_Well_Water_Rhino_with_Iron_Filters
Hi Antonio, the system came with 3/4" plastic fittings that called for pvc glue. I opted to use 3/4" Sharkbite fittings instead. Everything else you see here came with their "Pro Install" kit.
Apparently, you can request 1" hardware instead of 3/4". I just got mine installed today with 1" hardware. I called customer service if I can order 1" kit and they said they'll send it free of charge.
The prefilters are supposed ro be changed far more frequentky, like every two months. That why they send so many for thr water doe life compared to post filter, whixh is every six months.
Alberto, great question! I initially assumed that because I am on "city" water, I didnt need UV. But, after further investigation, I learned that our city does ha e issues with crypto from time to time...so, I eventually upgrade and add UV. Just to be safe... 👍
@@myoldhousefix dint listen to these morons get something that doesn't require electricity. We are all to dependant on industry for our needs. We can't survive without food and water so atleast secure that
hi, they can be tight sometimes. Just use the big round canister wrench that came with the kit. Once you break it free it just screws right off. To help removal next time, make sure to lube the canister o-ring before you re-install. Hope this helps! 👍
Thanks very much for the video. I am currently considering this system (OptimH20 Whole house Water Filter - Pre Filter + Carbon Block + Salt Free Conditioner) along with the RO system for my kitchen sink/ice marker. I have seen some reviewers/experts talk about investing in a system that has longevity in mind and refer to this system as only a 6 year system. To be clear, they're only talking about the Salt Free conditioner and not the system in its entirety, correct? On their website they mention the gallon throughput/ years that their conditioning tank lasts but I don't see an expiration on anything else? I just want to be sure that in a few years, I am not spending another few grand to replace a system that largely just needs a few filters changed as part of maintenance? Thank you!!
Hi Joe, great questions! First off, you read my mind, as my Rhino System shown here is now 6 years old and I just bought the same OptimH2O and RO setup you mentioned. RHINO SYSTEM (shown) On this current Rhino System, for past 6 years I just had to replace the Pre and Post filters- far right and far left. Now that it is approaching its end of life, I would need to replace both disposable media tanks in the center (dark blue - filter and softener). The rest of the system is retained tho. In short with Rhino, every 6 years you are looking at ~$1600 to replace the 2 main tanks and regular replacement of the Pre/Post filters. OPTIM H2O Now for the OptimH2O you buy the system (it is more cost but better filtration) you still have the recurring Pre/Post filter AND the Softener tank replacement (every 6 years). The difference is the filtration tank - carbon block vs the disposable Rhino tank. PRICE TO MAINTAIN It's about a wash on price tho (maybe a few hundred cheaper to maintain the Optim every 6 years) as Aquasana recommends replacing the carbon block every year ($400)...every 2 years on City water. But at least the OptimH2O now has 3 canisters that are retained, and other than the water softener, you just replace cartridges on 3 of the 4. Carbon block is better filtration - reason I upgraded, as many Cities have the PFAS/PFOS issues that the Rhino will not filter. The RO System will take care of that, though. I am also running their RO system to my fridge after the OptimH2O! I also added UV. Best of luck, and I hope I was able to help you compare the 2 systems!
@@myoldhousefix Thank you my friend. That clears it up for me. My main reason for looking into a home system + kitchen sink filter is my new awareness of PFAS/PFOS in our drinking water. Shocking and concerning to learn of their presence but nice that we can do something about it. I would like to do an in-home water test pre and post install to really gauge the difference. Are there testing kits that you've used and would recco for contaminant measurements, specifically for looking at those petrochemicals? Lastly, in the efforts to try and save as much money as possible, where and how is the best way to buy the filters? I see their subscription plan on their site which saves a few bucks, but was curious if there were any other places to buy and save. Thanks!!
@@JoeBarbagallo I know, right! Our City started talking about it and we also sit on a Dioxane plume so even though our City installed a carbon system, there are still miles of old pipes and connections that probably pose issues like lead, etc. Did you know that the EWC has identified 400+ water contaminates, yet on average, municipalities only treat for about 80-100. It's scary as we gain the tech to test for more contaminates...yet treatment at the municipal level is lacking. I'm sure you heard about Flint, MI. I originally had Culligan Water come out and test for the general stuff like hardness, iron, and pH, but I didn't want their salt softening system. I also wrote a blog on drinking water over on our site - That's when I came across Aquasana, during the research. So I had somewhat of a baseline for the basics, and did a follow up with water hardness strips (Lowes, HD, etc). I'm also into the home batista thing, so a local friend and coffee shop owner gave me a LaMarzocco water test as well (I think you can buy on Amazon - watwr test for espresso machines. Its a card type test ) - post testing for pH, hardness, iron, chlorine, etc and the Rhino System reduced to acceptable levels. Here is a link they are giving us here in MI to national labs for PFAS/PFOS/PFOA testing: www.washtenaw.org/2849/How-to-Test-Drinking-Water-for-PFAS As for filters, I just signed up for the water for life program to get the discount. Hey, if you decide to go the Aquasana route, if you don't mind using my link in the video description to go to their site, I'd appreciate it! They'll throw me a few dollars for the referral, which helps keep my site running (at no cost to you)! Thx!
@@myoldhousefix that was supposed to say “think anoint changing it at 3 months” if your color goes all the way to the core then your sediments are passing through.
Meh,,yours were 6 months,,,mine (living in Southern California 90703) were like mud and I have to replace pre filter every 30 days and post filter every 60 days!!
@@myoldhousefix you reminded me my post... I think I will record the video this time when I change my pre filter old to new one and then take it to City to show them this is how water they are selling to the residents...!
@@MRBOOOYA I live in Cerritos, CA 90703. I think it is City water, maybe municipal city water. It looks crazy that every 30 days I have to change the 20' pre-filter sediment filter, it is russ'ish , corrision color .... I think that I needed to talk to the City but I think they don't care!
holy crap, shark bite fittings everywhere with pex. I bet all the fittings combined costs more then then 200 dollars lmao. $$$$$$$$$ They are quick and easy but you pay for it handsomely. Talking a dollar for a pvc T vs 13 for a shark bite.
Hi Chad. Well there are a couple reasons: 1) for the most part, the items you see came with the install kit 2) for ease of maintenance, permanent connections make zero sense here (the tanks have to be swapped out at end of service life) - always design with maintenance in mide, 3) introducing additional pvc glue/chemicals seems counterintuitive to having cleaner water - the goal in the first place.
thats what came with the install kit and it has to be serviceable to swap out the 2 large tanks...the shark bites make that possible vs a lengthy disassembly/reassembly. Work smart, not hard. Systems need to be easy to operate and maintain. 👍
We have Aquasana AQ RO3. It is terrible. Leaks all the time. Constantly having to troubleshoot. Your supposed to run the water for 24 hours upon installation or after changing the filters??? Huge waste of water. Do not buy this unit.
Hi Jim, I'm open to your points on why its not a good solution. I'm always looking for better options. Testing prior to, and after install confirmed total water hardness levels dropped from 15 to 6 grains.
@Michael good point! I try to design my projects with maintenance in mind: 1) when the tanks need to be replaced, or to make repairs (replace psi gauge, etc) or fix leaks, the Sharkbites make it a LOT easier and simplify the disassembly and reassembly 2: the system comes with plastic fittings requiring pvc glue to install (fixed installation). I couldnt see buying a filtration system to clean my water, then introduce the PVC glue contaminates, therefore the Sharkbites are a win/win 👍
Bottom line is a permanent install is not desired due to maintenance requirements. The tanks have to be replaced periodically So... I try to design my projects with maintenance in mind: 1) when the tanks need to be replaced, or to make repairs (replace psi gauge, etc) or fix leaks, the Sharkbites make it a LOT easier and simplify the disassembly and reassembly 2: the system comes with plastic fittings requiring pvc glue to install (fixed installation). I couldnt see buying a filtration system to clean my water, then introduce the PVC glue contaminates, therefore the Sharkbites and PEX hard clamps are a win/win 👍
The flow rate for this system is just 7.0 GPM, do you not find this kind of low? I was thinking about getting this but am now considering other systems due to this low flow rate.
With 2 of us in the hoise it seems fine, unless you are running 3 or more high flow faucets at the same time. Otherwise, with more people and use you may see a drop in pressure...
The flow rate for this system is just 7.0 GPM, do you not find this kind of low? I was thinking about getting this but am now considering other systems due to this low flow rate.
The flow rate on the website say 7 but on the actual system when you get it says 7-10. So 7 is the low end depending on your water pressure. I just installed today so dont know yet if is worth it. The water definitely tastes better right away. Looks like it is preventing scale as well. I cleaned glass in shower before installing, and sprayed with the new water and let it dry. We have hard water and you would see spots right away, it dried clear. I didnt have any loss of pressure.
Jesse may how many bathrooms in the house? Are you just using one shower at a time? What if your sink, dishwasher and shower are all running together or you have two people showering at once, still no pressure loss?
Love the PSI gauges on each side! A+++
Thanks! Yes, I wanted a way to be able to troubleshoot water pressure issues, if needed - clogged filters vs actual water psi drop, etc.
Thankyou for taking the time to make this video.
Jorge, you're welcome! 👍
I’ve actually was told to change prefilter every 2 months and every 6 for post. I got their water for life plan so I pay a base price for the filters every few months. I find it to be worth it.
I installed the Aquasana Rhino Cholaramine version plus salt free water conditioner 400,000 gallon. We have chloramine added to our Southern California water. After our 3rd slab leak in our 29 year old copper pipes, research, plumbers and insurance adjusters pointed out the Choramine was a part of the problem. Water feels great and taste wonderful now. Two notes. A. Water is cloudy and awful for a few days of new install (even with proper water cleaning at install) but then becomes crystal clear and yummy tasting. B) After 3 weeks of use I see bottom of toilets browner than normal, which I assume is from removal of chloramine disinfectants. So will work on a natural solution for that. I would rather have that then the disinfectant in my family stomach and skin.
I think we are going to switch to the same in another year when ours is due to replace. I also noticed the brown spots in the toilets wuth our standard carbon filter, so must be common with both since chlorine and/or chloramine is removed.
Don't know if this has been mentioned but the activated charcoal will take bacteria out, but bacteria will build up on charcoal and start putting more bacteria in the water over time. Bleach needs to be run over charcoal once a month it strips a layer off and you have fresh charcoal. Thanks for the vid
Good info, thanks!
Hi, do you know the precise size of the o-rings? They stretch quickly and don't incluse in water for life.
Hi Nathalie - I have to get spares too. I took my small canister to tje local hardware store and just matched one up. I also think that Auqsana sells replacements as well.
@nathalierey - mine measure 4" outside diameter, 3 3/4" inside diameter. About 3/16" in diameter
Will your system remove fluoride?
Is it ANSI recognized and certified?
Their site says that they are tested and certified to meet NSF and ANSI standards.
How do you replace the filters without a drain valve?
there is a pressure release (small red button) on the😊 small left filter canister..
Hi There! This video and moreso the comments and your responses have been super helpful for me. I am about to make a purchase for a small one bathroom house I am building in Puerto Rico. Question - Now that you've had the OptimH2O for awhile, do you prefer it to the Rhino? I was thinking about getting one of these two, and then adding Aquasana's RO unit under the kitchen sink. Would that be overkill if I got the OptimH20? Also, I have heard, and read about bacteria growing on the carbon block??? Please let me know your thoughts here, and thank you so much!
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Hi! I'm so glad I was able to help and love the feedback! As far as the Rhino vs the OptimH2O, here are some of the main points that I kept in mind as I debated. The OptimH2O:
* does remove chlorine, chloramines, forever chemicals that now seem to be in all of our water like PFAS, PFOA, etc. The Rhino only gets the chlorine.
* The main carbon block filter needs no plumber or tools to replace (assemble/disassemble) like the Rhino does. Just pull and replace.
* The carbon block has less contact time in the system, reducing the likelihood of bacteria growth - 12 months vs 5 or 10 years with Rhino (thats a long time) . The carbon block filter is more expensive tho, but is higher performance as stated above.
* Adding the RO under sink - overkill? Well maybe, but for the low cost, I figured it's worth it, and I got one too. It filters beyond a carbon block for ultra filtration to the max - for drinking water only. Not for espresso machines tho. Its so filtered it can mess with the water sensors.
* Bacteria - I do wonder about my old Rhino, due to age and length of exposure. Again, why I like the Optim H2O - 1 year. But you can always follow the RO disinfection steps that come with the RO and perform it for both the system and RO a few times per year or say if you went on vacation for a 2 weeks+ and the water was static. Flush and you should be good to go.
Hope this helps! And if you don't mind, use my link if you decide to purchase. It helps me to continue to make content 👍
visit.myoldhousefix.com/aquasana
One last thought bacteria/algae growth - I do know a few years back they switched from clear filter canisters to opaque due to this issue. It seems to have helped, but I haven't heard of anything lately.
What is the size of threaded shark bite you used
Hi Tyler, they are 3/4" into the tank. I opted for them vs the plastic and glue. 👍
After this, do you use a separate water filter for drinking water? This water filter is for whole house right?
Hi Ajay, yes after you've cleaned up the chlorine, sediment, heavy metals, and water hardness, for all your mechanicals and drinking water, you can go one step further with their RO filter for drinking ( about $200). This is an additional step to remove chemicals, pesticides, etc...
They also have a new carbon block filter that replaces one of my tanks and then you dont need the separate RO
I see the discussion about hardness removal and the softener system, but the system includes a "water conditioner", not a "water softener", correct? When researching systems, there is such a big debate about the difference and effectiveness of each.
Hi Brian, from what I understand its more of an ion exchange vs "physical" water change like when adding salt. More info here - www.aquasana.com/whole-house-water-filters/salt-free-water-conditioner-100237297.html
So the softner is online before the filter??
yes, that's correct 👍
Looks good, I would add 1/4" sample ports and gauges in between tanks to monitor water softening and chlorine levels and delta pressure pre & post tanks
That's a great tip for diagnostics, Don! Thanks! We've done just that on the left and right sides of this setup.
@harman singh hi! The system info is at the Aquasans site here -bit.ly/2NzuUwb
and the pressure gauges I added from your local hardware store/Lowes...hope this helps!
Might you have a breakdown of the Sharkbites that you had to use? I’m about to install the same system and want to Sharkbite.
Hi Chris most of what you see came with the Pro Install Kit that they also sell. Otherwise the fittings are are all male/female 3/4" fittings. For the tank I didn't want to use pvc glue, so those are male 1" if I remember correctly.
Does that help?
Definitely gives me a heads up. I’ll also do a pre set up and take a look at everything. I don’t want to deal with pvc either 😂
Thanks for having this video though and showing it can be done that way!
I did get the pro install kit as well. Just need to get my installation area ready for it now and have at it. Doing it for a well system.
@@chrishampton5854 cool, glad to help! The only pex I had to buy was for the bypass loop and entry/exit feeds on the main line. Other that that don't forget your gages at each end, so is pressure ever drops you can verify input pressure vs after the filter system (clogged filter, etc) 👍
Which gauges did you happen to use?
I picked up 2 standard water pressure gauges from my local hardware store (no name/china). 0-100 psi. It's 3/8" male thread, so you'll need two adapters -
1) 3/8" female to 3/4" female
2) 3/4" male to 3/4" pex nipple. Ring clamp it. 👍
Are you happy with the water it produces?
yes, Patrick, thanks!
Are Hahn and aquasana the same? Where do you get the filters? My post-filter is not made of paper like that it’s made of the same hard material as your pre filter.
Hi @big Mack, yep they sure are. Aquasana is sold at Costco under the Hahn name (I have it). You can get your pre and post filters here (and save some $ if you get the water for life recurring shipments) - click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwater-filter-replacements%2F
@@myoldhousefix thank you very much. My system came with hardly any instructions or literature.
@@bigmack2262 hey, glad to help...hit me up if you need any info...I'm familiar with their systems forward and backward. 👍
I was wondering if you had your water tested before and after the install? How much did it lower the hard water? Any changes in the water pressure?
Yep we had it tested for a baseline.
The pressure dropped slightly. Our water pressure is at 52psi input from the street. With one high flow faucet running, like an unrestricted laundry sink, it drops to 48-50psi. Turn on a second high flow faucet like a kitchen sink, pot filler, or shower and it drops to about 36-38psi.
Our hardness went from about 14 grains hardness down to 6.
did you installed bu yourself or they did for you?
Hi Jesse, after planning it out amd picking up a few extra pieces in addition to the install kit, it took me about 4 hrs to install.
I have my filter system for almost three years but why the water still coming dirty and I can see this color when I use the washing machine with white clothes is necesary to change the system please ?
Do you have ANY old galvanized pipes between the exit of the filter and each point of use? If so the water will sit and rust...turning brown and staining white clothes. This happened to us and I had to replace our existing galvanized pipe. This fixed the problem and was not related to the filter system 👍
I was told its recommended you should change filters out every 2 months.
How much does this system cost? And how much for maintenance?
heres the link to the info. I also cover those details at the end of the video...
click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters
You showed the filter canisters attached and then you showed them unattached. How did you get from one to the next? How did you get them reattached afterward? Thanks.
Hi Hal, look a 2:48 and 4:49. You can see the black band wrench to the right and when I reassemble at the end. 👍
Hey Chris, can you please 🙏 give us an update how this system is working?. My water softener just died and I'm thinking of replacing it with this Aquasana system. I looked at Amazon and it has really bad reviews. I trust yours!.
@lauras.zone are you looking to go with Aquasana's softener or the whole Rhino system - filter and softener?
@@myoldhousefix The whole system like yours😊 we're really trying to get away from the salt water softeners.😬
@@AnnaLaurasZone hey, so this comment may get lengthy, but here's the issues we have locally with water, so yours may differ.
Are you familiar with all the PFAS/PFOS issues popping up everywhere? This drove our decision making on what to buy. I have a ton of info I researched here - myoldhousefix.com/2018/07/22/tap-water-safe-drink/
@@AnnaLaurasZone so now you have the background, there are basically 3 options you can choose - from cheapest to most expensive.
1) Rhino Filtration System with salt free Softener - this is what we have now. It DID reduce hardness from about 14/16 grains of hardness down to 6. The faucets and showers cleared up and clothes came cleaner. I'd say it was 90% effective. My goal was 4 grains, so it got close. It also removes chlorine, heavy metals, pesticides, etc.
What is doesnt do - it does not remove chloramines (see blog) or hit the high 90% marks for the PFAS and other chemicals.
2) Optim H2O filter with same Softener - now that our Rhino System is almost 6 years old, the tanks have to be replaced soon(the 2 middle ones) so we decided to upgrade to this unit. 2 reasons - the carbon block filter is better, filters out PFAS/PFOS and chloramines...AND it is a few hundred dollars cheaper to operate. On this System, you keep all the tanks and just swap internal cartridges. I also added UV. This system ALMOST gets you to an RO system...but whole house.
3) We also added an RO system to the OptimH2O, since it's only $200 for single point RO drinking water at the fridge.
I haven't installed the new system yet, and it may be a bit overboard, but water is so contaminated nowadays, we dont want to take chances. Ann Arbor has a Dioxane plume, lead issues, and PFAS/PFOS from heavy industry. If you live near carpet mfrs, military bases, and airports... the waterways there are contaminated too.
Check out the blog, and I hope this helps! 👍
@@AnnaLaurasZone Our City started talking about the contamination and even though our City installed a carbon system, there are still miles of old pipes and connections that probably pose issues like lead, etc. Did you know that the EWC has identified 400+ water contaminates, yet on average, municipalities only treat for about 80-100. It's scary as we gain the tech to test for more contaminates...yet treatment at the municipal level is lacking. I'm sure you heard about Flint, MI.
I originally had Culligan Water come out and test for the general stuff like hardness, iron, and pH, but I didn't want their salt softening system. I also wrote a blog on drinking water over on our site - That's when I came across Aquasana, during the research. So I had somewhat of a baseline for the basics, and did a follow up with water hardness strips (Lowes, HD, etc). I'm also into the home barista thing, so a local friend and coffee shop owner gave me a LaMarzocco water test as well (I think you can buy on Amazon - water test for espresso machines. Its a card type test ) - post testing for pH, hardness, iron, chlorine, etc and the Rhino System reduced to acceptable levels.
As for filters, I just signed up for the water for life program to get the discount.
Does your system remove fluoride?
Hi John,
1) My Rhino System here does NOT remove fluoride - it removes 97% of chlorine and reducing other harmful contaminants including lead, mercury, herbicides, pesticides, VOCs, and more.
2) The OptimH20 whole house system (carbon block) - is IAPMO tested and certified to NSF/ANSI Standard 53 (includes P473), the system reduces more than 99% of lead and cysts, 98% of PFOA/PFOS, and tackles chlorine, chloramines, and more.
3) OptimH2O® Reverse Osmosis + Claryum - This under sink reverse osmosis system is tested and certified to NSF/ANSI Standards 42, 53 (includes P473), 58, and 401 to effectively reduce 88 contaminants, including 95% of fluoride. It’s also certified to remove 95% of mercury, 97% of chlorine and arsenic, and 99% of lead and asbestos while maintaining the benefits of healthy minerals other reverse osmosis systems remove. In all, the OptimH2O® Reverse Osmosis + Claryum® removes 5X more contaminants than other RO systems. - $224.
LINK HERE - LINK HERE
Given that my Rhino system is now due for replacement after 6 years (the 2 middle tanks) I will be upgrading to the OptimH20 whole-house system and the RO for drinking water.
Bottom line, you can remove the fluoride and EVERYTHING else for as low as $224 on the under sink Claryum system - its just one single point of use, though. Then add as needed for any whole-house concerns to soften, limescale, filter, remove chlorine/chloramines from showers and your mechanical equipment (boilers, espresso, hot water, etc). Hope this helps John!
My house goes from city water to well water at times. Such a pain in the Angus. Well water is so disgusting I can't see through a glass filled with sink water.
So when I see options for city water or well water, I'm stuck because my city decides on both
I think Aquasana may have a FIX for you in this situation. Hit the link in the video description. When you land on the whole house filter system page...select WELL WATER. This system will cover both sources City and Well. You'll also want the UV with well water. And I even added their under sink Claryum RO, just to be safe.
Also, get yourwell water tested to see just what's in it, especially these new "forever" chemicals like PFAS.
@@myoldhousefix you're right mate. I'm dying over here, my skin has aged 5 years in 40 days.
I just googled well water systems and came across aquasana as the first listing. Do you believe this is the top tier company and system? I went through the comments and see you're probably with the Optim system now, and using the RO under the sink for additional removal like fluoride.
I was about to go straight tribal and distill water and use a bucket in the squat position in my tub lol
I'll probably go optim, salt free, and UV. Getting it for my dad because I don't want to lose him early to some of the many poisonous additions to our food, water, air etc
You ever pull any gold out of there?
Every week! Na...jk...lots of junk from the old city pipes tho...
Can it be use to wash ur cars
Yes! That would eliminate the chlorine spots on your cars. I bypassed my spigot to outside because we water our grass a lot, so that would shorten the filter life.
will it remove lead? Our water tested positive
Aquasana says it does - "Get clean, great-tasting water from every tap in your home by removing 97% of chlorine in regular tap water. Also reduces other harmful contaminants including":
Heavy metals like lead and mercury
Organic chemicals like herbicides, pesticides and VOCs
Industrial solvents and more
Here's the link to their page: bit.ly/3jV0c0C
How is it with calcium?
It does not remove calcium, but it does help prevent limescale buildup. It reduced ours by 90%...and ours was terrible...
How much space does it take up
Hi Michael, from end to end (PEC in to PEX out its horizontal footprint is 5', and just over 3'tall to the top of the tanks...
@@myoldhousefix also i have seen videos where's people are saying this system is junk
@@michaeld954 interesting...what are their complaints? If you notice I did install Sharkbite fittings at the tanks, instead of the plastic, PVC and glued fittings supplied. It didnt make sense for me to install a filter and then use toxic glue. I did confirm that it brought our water hardness down from 12-14 grains...down to about 6. And as you can see in the video its catching a lot of sediment from our city mains.
Hi there, since you have this filter system for years, can you share with me if everything works well the whole time? I'm about to install this brand, but I see how people complain on Amazon about this water softener system, that makes me worry.
Thanks
Hi. Here's my experience so far. We've had ours installed for almost 5 years now and haven't had any issues. Just replace the filters as recommended and that's it. I can say that the water softener does work well even with our super hard water. It took ours from about 16 grains down to 6 grains. We dont get the clogged shower heads and washing machine water hoses anymore. It also removes all the chlorine in our city water.
@@myoldhousefix thank you.
@@LHP74D3 you're welcome! 👍
I'm in SoCal and I just got mine installed today. I installed it in the garage and it took me a while to install all the fittings. I had to cut my drywall to get access to city water line. Then the space in the drywall was so tight that I couldn't get my crimper in there. Definitely not that easy installation as installing it in a basement. I have the 1M gallon without UV system. My system came with all brass hardware. Originally, it came with 3/4" hardware, but I called customer service and and sent me 1" hardware for free.
Never seen so many shark bites on a fresh installation lol.
good point! I try to design my projects with maintenance in mind:
1) when the tanks need to be replaced, or to make repairs (replace psi gauge, etc) or fix leaks, the Sharkbites make it a LOT easier and simplify the disassembly and reassembly
2: the system comes with plastic fittings requiring pvc glue to install (fixed installation). I couldnt see buying a filtration system to clean my water, then introduce the PVC glue contaminates, therefore the Sharkbites are a win/win 👍
The pre is the small one right?
Hi, the pre-filter is actually the larger...see the video at 0:30 in...
Does it take out flouride?
This one doesnt (only chlorine and heavy metals, etc), but hit my link to their Website in the video description. They have a Teverse Osmosis and under counter flouride filtration.
Thanks amigo
No problem at all! 👍
At least you have city water. Imagine using that for well water, which is what we have at our primary home. The filters would probably get dirty much faster. We used to have a water softener, but that broke a couple decades ago & we haven't gotten it repaired. Instead, for potable water, we buy bottled water & we also transfer several gallons of city tap water via clean gallon jugs from our other home in a different city an hour away. We then just use the unfiltered well water for washing dishes & sometimes for showers. Sounds kinda tedious, but at least we are saving money at the moment by not using a softener or filters. I would love to get a huge water distilling system for our well water, but that would probably cost a lot.
By the way, does the pre-filter also act as a spin-down filter? I think a whole-house spin-down centrifugal filter at the pre-stage would help relieve the other filters down the line of a lot of the larger particles such as sediment & sand. And a spin-down filter does not need replacing, only cleaning, iirc, which would save you money on filter replacements.
oh yeah, I imagine the filters would need to be replaced more often on well water.
oh, and no...the pre-filter is disposable. Not reusable.
@@myoldhousefix ... You might want to look into using a spin-down filter then, if you haven't already. Ask around. It might replace one of your prefilters, or it could be an additional filter, idk. But it does not require using disposables, because all you basically do is empty the filtered contents into a bucket once it becomes full & then it's ready again, so it could be used for years & save you money down the road, who knows. But since you are on tap water, there's probably less large-micron particles in that water. Yet I would still at least try to see if a spin-down might be a money-saver in your filtering loop.
Does it take calcium out of the water.
no, not calcium.
RO does tho, that's why the good ones come with a re-mineralized cartridge
Might want to mention what that red button in the post filter is for.
Yes! Pressure relief before canister removal!
Nice video. Do these do anything about arsenic 3, 5 or radon?
Hi Boe, this one does NOT remove Arsenic...and I don't think it removes Radon either. You would need their Reverse Osmosis (point of use)System - bit.ly/3bPFLln
I purchase the aquasana system, And in the installation instructions it says to put the water filter system before the salt free water conditioner, At least the diagram that they have laid out is made that way. I notice you did the opposite.
Hi, do you have the Rhino or the Optim H2O? Check out the installation video here. There is a note * order of components may vary bu model. It liiks like the Rhino is correct - softerner goes first. BUT on Optim H2O it shows the filter first. Hope that helps - www.aquasana.com/product-installation-videos.html#wholehouse
Hello, thank you for the informative video. We have well water and it’s very hard. Do you know what kind of numbers you would get if you tested with the tds tester? For example even at your home? I just want to make sure it’s as low as it can be etc.
Hi, yes...from our water testing, we were told that any reading over 5-6 should be treated. Ours was 17, and the Aquasana brought it down to 6, so pretty good performance considering our terrible rating. Here's a sample:
Once you test your water and get your number, see where your water quality falls using the guide below:
0-3: If your hard water test strip indicates that your water is between 0-3 grains per gallon, your water doesn’t require softening.
3-7: Water between 3-7 gpg is moderately hard, causing spotty dishes and dry skin.
7-11: Hard water is packed with minerals at 7-11 gpg, and you likely deal with crusty faucets and pipes and possibly reddish rings on your porcelain from excess iron.
11-15: Considered very hard, water at 11-15 gpg exhibits all the signs of hard water all the time.
15+: Extremely hard water is anything over 15 gpg.
@@myoldhousefix thanks for the response so our number of hardness was 17 as well. So that’s one issue that we want fixed however we currently use a zero filter for drinking water that when you test the water with a tds tester it’s at 0. So my question is what was your before and after tds number ? Our number currently is 392 before any filtering. I’m trying to see how much lower it will go hypothetically speaking etc
@@olusialovesgod9724 you're welcome! I don't think we ever tested with a tds meter, just checked hardness (gpg), iron, pH, etc. The Aquasana runs water through a 5 micron pre-filter for sediments, then the Softener (ion exchange), then the carbon media filter for heavy metals, chlorine contaminates, etc, then a 0.5 micron post-filter, and lastly UV light (recommended for well water) for crypto, etc. They have a specific well water version of mine that you'll want to select if you decide to go with a whole house system.
Your zero water pitcher may be fine for drinking water, but the Aquasana really comes in for a whole house solution to help with appliance and faucet iron, limescale, etc. Water can really harm your espresso machine, dishwasher, boiler, hot water heater, etc.
@@olusialovesgod9724 read more on tds here, too -
www.aquasana.com/info/tds-meter-what-is-it-and-do-you-need-it-pd.html
@@myoldhousefix thanks!
In the functioning mode, on my system the lever to the water is open when horizontal. But the levers that lead to the tanks are vertical which makes me think they are closed. I am confused as to which way is open and which way is closed.
you are correct, ball valves are usually in the OPEN position when the lever is parallel to line or pipe (running in the same direction). If you have a service bypass, you would still havewater, just not filtered water if the filter valves are "off". 👍
I have city water and have 12 grains/gal with ph 2.5/3.0 and zero iron. In your personal opinion, when this system “salt free” do a good job as a salt water softener?
Hi Freddy! It does. For example our city water is extremely hard at 14 grains. I had to use CLR on the shower heads every 4-6 months and even on our washer, or it would overflow from limescale.
This system reduced it to 6 grains. Optimal is 4 to 5, but I'd say with our water this bad, it performs well.
@@myoldhousefix thanks for your feedback
@@freddycalderon9092 you're welcome Freddy!
Let me guess 10 year for 10k? Beautiful system though, I have heard great things about this device.
I think you can catch it on sale for about $1800.
Not that much at all. I just purchased the 10 year for 1650 on sale. A lot more affordable then most filter systems. I love it.
@@minaprincess3696 the aquasana website is selling it for $4k
@@pointblank6702 yea the best time to buy it is on sale. I know there was a 3 months or something like that sale for half off.
@@myoldhousefix sir ye india me mil jayega kitne price me
Are you on well or city? Have you had your water tested for chemicals?
Hi Chris, I am on City water. With our house and city pipes being really old, I didnt want to take chances...our filters come out nasty when I change them. Also our water is super hard, thus its really hard on our faucets, boiler, and appliances (limescale). We also have PFOS and Dioxane which the city cannot rwmove 100%. I also added an RO at piont of use for that, as well...
I have a similar setup, I also have the UV light. I have a question, if you leave any water that has been filtered out through this system and left standing for a while, do you notice a clear film start to develop on top? On mine standing water will start to form an odd clear film on the top. In contacting aquasana they told me it was because of the ion exchange the sodium floats to the top since it has nothing to join with which is what I see. I haven't heard of anyone else with this issue.
Hi Gabriel, I haven't noticed, but I don't usually leave any water standing. The ion exchange makes sense as it doesn't last forever - 36 hrs I think. I will put some in a glass and see what happens tho. Now, once when we went on vacation for a month, I did get a little film build up on top of the post filter rubber top. So that probably tracks to what you are seeing.
@@myoldhousefix I noticed my water will start to form the film after maybe 2-3 hours. I ended up getting a reverse osmosis under my kitchen sink to counter that from happening and it's worked so far. I just found it odd that I can't find people anywhere mentioning it. I originally discovered it because I did a before/after tests on my water after the system was installed and we left the water cups out and came back later to see the film and it had only formed on the after cups.
@@ninjaman96 yeah that's weird! I'm performing that test now...so I'll report back in a few hours...
@@ninjaman96 hey, so I filled a glass of water and left it for 6 hours amd it's crystal clear. And my system is 5 years old now. Looks like you may have something else going on?
Hi, I am interested in this system. Could you please tell me what the system's name and where I can order it? Many thanks in advance.
Hi Jack, yes, its in the video description - click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters
The flow rate for this system is just 7.0 GPM, do you not find this kind of low? I was thinking about getting this but am now considering other systems due to this low flow rate.
Hi Hasan, only noticable if multiple high flow faucets are on at once. I noticed a drop with shower, kitchen sink, and washer all on at full blast.
How much pressure loss do you get?
Our water pressure is at 52psi input from the street. With one high flow faucet running, like an unrestricted laundry sink, it drops to 48-50psi. Turn on a second high flow faucet like a kitchen sink, pot filler, or shower and it drops to about 36-38psi.
great video would you consider doing an updated one showing your add attachments and explaining what they are needed for thank you
This system us complete, until I add UV, but I will be adding a separate RO system soon. Yes, be glad to make an installation video 👍
HI! How is pressure coming out? I've heard they only have about 7 Lbs of pressure on the house side? Thank you for the video!
Hi George mine flows 7 gallons per minute - 52psi in / about 48psi out ...hope this helps!
@@myoldhousefix thank you, it does!
Hi, how much does it cost to hire a professional plumber for the installation? I am asking just the installation fee. Thanks!
Hi Ariel, I would guess around $3-400 for installation.
Do not use mineral oil on the o-ring, it is petroleum based and will break down the rubber and eventually a leak will occur. So use siliconized grease instead..
How is you water pressure? Well or city water?
City water John, I believe its about 50psi
It does drop to about 40psi if multiple main faucets are fully open (2-3)...
Was there a noticeable drop in pressure after adding the filters? Curious about shower if it is any different having to go through the filters.
@@marka1952 only noticable if multiple high flow faucets are on at once. I noticed a drop with shower, kitchen sink, and washer all on at full blast.
My Old House Fix Thanks.
Is it me, or is one of the two taller tanks in the middle installed backwards? I thought those were uni-directional
Good question Chris. Both sets of tanks look the same for the softener and the actual filter. The softener goes first (right center) then the 2 stage filter (left center).
Hello Chris, thx for the video, can you tell me the tds readings after this house water filtration system? My house filter is not doing anything :@
Are you just testing with water hardness strips? Mine started out at 12-14 grains...now its 6.
@@myoldhousefix i have the digital device home forest YL TDS2 A. I get between 500 to 600 tds, no change with the expensive house filter that got installed
@@jaimeim18 did you install this Aquasana system with the salt free softener (2nd tank)?
@@myoldhousefix oh I didn't install that system. They installed a Ultima filter without softener. I'm looking to buy something better. My water is no good enough and my wife is complaining of hair loss
@@jaimeim18 yes, a filter alone wont soften the water. It will remove chlorine, sediment and minerals, but if it's hard water, you need a softener. The softener reduces limescale and hardness. We used to have to dip our showerheads in CLR every 4- 6 months...now maybe once a year or longer...
any loss in water pressure? Thanks in advance.
Hi Jeremy, just slightly. Our water pressure is at 52psi input from the street. With one high flow faucet running, like an unrestricted laundry sink, it drops to 48-50psi. Turn on a second high flow faucet like a kitchen sink, pot filler, or shower and it drops to about 36-38psi.
@@myoldhousefix which is to be expected going through a system like this. Water can only be treated so fast.
@@fortunatedad7695 yep. I believe, they recommend a second system to increase throughput for very large houses/consumption. 👍
@@myoldhousefix I could be wrong but I can't see that making a difference. You only get so many gallons per minute from your water source so adding another system wouldn't make a difference.
You would have to increase your water main size then split off to a second water treatment system then tie both lines together after the water is treated.
Alot of calculations would have to be done so your sizing is right on or youd be dropping alot cash for nothing.
@@fortunatedad7695 yeah I agree, lots of logistics and issues to overcome. Thats why I dont mind the slight drop in pressure...the fix for me isnt worth the time and money
Does this system remove fluoride!
This system does not, but it does remove chlorine. For Flouride, you'll need their Reverse Osmosis filter, avoit $200. Hit the link in the description and just navigate to the "under sink" Optim H2O RO System.
Excellent review!
thank you!!! 👍
Did the system come with brass fittings or did you upgrade? I've seen the same system but with plastic fittings.
Hi Bernard, I added the Pro Install Kit whiich came with the fittings for the bypass loop. The rest I added instead of the plastic ones. Hope this helps!
Have you ever had your water tested? Take a sample of untreated and compare to treated? People get skeeved out by the rust, but it's typically a benign contaminant - it's the heavy metals/pesticides/chemicals that are the stuff to worry about but few seem to care and it's hard to find reliable info that isn't marketing hype. $800 for the large filters is about $500 too much - nothing but some inexpensive filter media inside a few tanks. But thanks for showing installation setup and maintenance.
Hi Arthur, great question. Yep, we bought it for the reasons you listed below, and because our water is super hard and we wanted a salt-free solution. Additionally, our city ( like many) are now finding PFAS and PFOS contamination as well. It is hard to find reliable info, but we felt better with Aquasana having an NSF certification.
Arthur, as far as the contaminate list, I have only performed limited testing so far since we installed the whole -house system (to make sure our water wouldn't destroy our espresso machine) - hardness, iron, pH, etc. Our hardness went from 16 down to about 6 grains. Our hard water was destroying our mechanicals - from limescale. Now our showerheads only need cleaning every uear, instead of every month.
Price?
Hi Terrence, their point of use filters start at about $200 (RO) to about $1400 for a million gallon filter, softener, pro install kit setup. They also have upgrades to catch chloramines and carbon block for PFAS (RO is cheaper).
So I assume that with your current system you really don't need to add a UV light for such things as E-coli?
Hi Terrence, yes we are on city water so UV is not a requirement like it would be with well water. Although, our city does report sporadic crypto vases, so UV probably isnt a bad idea...just in case. I'll probably add UV during my next major tank swap out (im 4 years into this 6 yr system).
@@myoldhousefix Hi Chris, Thanks for your speedy reply. After I watched your video I did more research on UV lighting and found it can be quite costly and the lights lose almost 50% of their efficiency after only 6 months use. SO I guess for many people who are thinking about this feature on their system, they should really give some serious thought as to if this is even needed in their circumstance. In my specific case I would be using this system to filter collected rain water from my storage tank for all my needs so I'm not certain if I would even need to add the UV filter on my system. I will say without a doubt that I would surely be using the aquasana filter system.
If I were collecting rainwater to drink, I would definitely add UV just for peace of mind...bird droppings, etc... It does have its pros and cons...
@@myoldhousefix What about well water for the pool? I would think there's enough chlorine in there to kill anything harmful...
@@patricklim2836 yeah, I would think that the separate pool treatment (chlorine product, etc) is sufficient per product guidance.
How much for professional installation?
Hi James, I installed mine, but I would estimate about $400 for installation if you hire it out.
Mine was about $1000 installed for this dual system
@@Kinosec-10 that sounds about right!
are there seals in this system
Hi Suzanne, good question! The only "seals" in the entire system is a rubber o-ring at each light blue filter canisters (2 o-rings rotal). They are only a few dollars, and last 3-4 years before needing replaced, in my experience. You can see the black o- ring when I an at the sink on the close-up shot.
I am considering an Aquasana whole house system. Has anyone had any major issues with it?
We've had ours for 6 years now and no issues. Just filter and canister O-ring replacement...thats it. Heres the link to their Whole House Filter System page for various models - click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=zfE5wRyxgig&mid=36667&murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters%2F
@@myoldhousefix Thank you
@@morningpush4564 you're welcome!
Hi Chris, this is Chris. Excellent system setup! Please post more information about the pressure gauges you used and how you attached. I am preparing to install a similar system in about a month. One suggestion... add a water meter to confirm flow and need to change filters (sooner or even later), I am opting for the water meter "Assured Automation WM-PC" analog model 1" size. Thank you again for the set-up details and design layout. Thank you in advance for any insight into the pressure gauges.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I have part of my answer to the pressure gauge set-up...please correct me if wrong... You used 1/4" fitting pressure gauges, connected with 1/4" to 3/4" brass hex adapter, connected to 3/4" adapter to sharkbite (Everflow Supplies Pushlock UPMC134 1 Inch x 3/4 Inch Long Push X Male Adapter Push-Fit Fittings) ? Or is it 1"?
Hi Chris, yes I installed one before the system and one after so I can monitor, if needed. I have about 52psi in, and about 49-50 out. I just used a t fitting, pen, and two 100 psi gauges from the local hardware store. Best of luck with yours, and glad to help!
@@1warhelion correct...1/4 to 3/4👍
Does this system prevent hard water spots on faucets and glass?
Hi Julie, yes it does. If your water us super hard like our was (14-18 grains) it wont eliminate 100%, but it reduced ours to 6 grains...pretty good considering. We went from cleaning the scale off our shower head monthly, to onve a year. And no salt, drains, and waste water...👍
@@myoldhousefix Hi Chris, Do you know where in the 14 - 18 range you were? I am at 12 grains. If you were at 16 and got down to 6, then I would hope to get from 12 down to 2. I am trying to figure out if I should use a Potassium Chloride system or an Aquasana. Any updates since you posted this a year ago? Thanks!!
Hi@@danroscigno187 great question. Let me pull up my original report to see if I can find it. What I like about the softener is its salt free, no brine water to deal with, no drains, and no electricity needed...
@@danroscigno187 14-15 grains was our baseline...now 5 grains. Ours fluctuates a bit when the city switches to more well water in winter.
@@myoldhousefix Beautiful, so you dropped 10 grains! That is great. Thanks for the info!
Are you still happy with this system? Does it seem it will last 10 years?
Hi Jesse, mine is the 6yr/600K gallon system. We are almost 4 years in now, and its still working great!
@@myoldhousefix is the taste of the water good?
@@ItzAlyssa.1 yes, very mich improved! Ours used to taste like swimming pool water before...
I'm thinking about getting their well water system. I'm ambivalent about the water conditioner. Do you think it leaves the water less healthy for drinking than without the conditioner?
The filter side will still clean the water the same, the softerner is for hard water and limescale. We dudnt want to use salt. How hard is your water? Our was so bad that our soap wouldnt foam, our showerheads would clog with limescale in 2-3 months, and that was wrecking our appliances - on demand boiler/hot water, dishwasher, espresso machine, and washing machine.
@@myoldhousefix I assume this system installs at the front end (incoming main), then goes to the tankless heater, correct?
@@patricklim2836 correct, ahead of any/all points of use - mechanical or faucets.
@@myoldhousefix Your water sounded extremely hard prior to the install. Did it help with that. I’ve been looking for something to help with that for the water in my area. That’s my number one going to a whole house water filter.
@@daverevollo5647 yes, we started at about 14 grains and this system got us down to about 6 grains. 4 to 5 is ideal, but our water was so hard, this is close enough 👍
Does it remove iron from water
you'll probably want to talk to them about their well water system... you can also read more here - www.mrwatergeek.com/iron-water-filter/#Iron_Removal_Filter_For_Home_Aquasana_500000_Gallon_Well_Water_Rhino_with_Iron_Filters
what size fittings did you use between the filters to connect to your pex tubing?
Hi Antonio, the system came with 3/4" plastic fittings that called for pvc glue. I opted to use 3/4" Sharkbite fittings instead. Everything else you see here came with their "Pro Install" kit.
Oh, and I also added the pressure gauges on each end, just for monitoring potential blockage - psi in/out differentials...
Apparently, you can request 1" hardware instead of 3/4". I just got mine installed today with 1" hardware. I called customer service if I can order 1" kit and they said they'll send it free of charge.
I need you to come install my Aquasana Whole House Water Filter System that is on a well.
Do you have a good plumber close by?
Thanks for the video
you're welcome!
What type of tubing are you between units?
hi...it us PEX with Sharkbite fittings between the tanks.
The prefilters are supposed ro be changed far more frequentky, like every two months. That why they send so many for thr water doe life compared to post filter, whixh is every six months.
Can I ask why you didn't get the UV ?
Alberto, great question! I initially assumed that because I am on "city" water, I didnt need UV. But, after further investigation, I learned that our city does ha e issues with crypto from time to time...so, I eventually upgrade and add UV. Just to be safe... 👍
My Old House Fix awesome. I had the same question. Great video!
No problem! 👍
I will be upgrading soon.
@@myoldhousefix dint listen to these morons get something that doesn't require electricity. We are all to dependant on industry for our needs. We can't survive without food and water so atleast secure that
I really wish you didn't skip how to remove the canisters to replace the filters. Mine are stuck!
hi, they can be tight sometimes. Just use the big round canister wrench that came with the kit. Once you break it free it just screws right off. To help removal next time, make sure to lube the canister o-ring before you re-install. Hope this helps! 👍
Thanks very much for the video. I am currently considering this system (OptimH20 Whole house Water Filter - Pre Filter + Carbon Block + Salt Free Conditioner) along with the RO system for my kitchen sink/ice marker. I have seen some reviewers/experts talk about investing in a system that has longevity in mind and refer to this system as only a 6 year system. To be clear, they're only talking about the Salt Free conditioner and not the system in its entirety, correct? On their website they mention the gallon throughput/ years that their conditioning tank lasts but I don't see an expiration on anything else? I just want to be sure that in a few years, I am not spending another few grand to replace a system that largely just needs a few filters changed as part of maintenance? Thank you!!
Hi Joe, great questions! First off, you read my mind, as my Rhino System shown here is now 6 years old and I just bought the same OptimH2O and RO setup you mentioned.
RHINO SYSTEM (shown)
On this current Rhino System, for past 6 years I just had to replace the Pre and Post filters- far right and far left. Now that it is approaching its end of life, I would need to replace both disposable media tanks in the center (dark blue - filter and softener). The rest of the system is retained tho. In short with Rhino, every 6 years you are looking at ~$1600 to replace the 2 main tanks and regular replacement of the Pre/Post filters.
OPTIM H2O
Now for the OptimH2O you buy the system (it is more cost but better filtration) you still have the recurring Pre/Post filter AND the Softener tank replacement (every 6 years). The difference is the filtration tank - carbon block vs the disposable Rhino tank.
PRICE TO MAINTAIN
It's about a wash on price tho (maybe a few hundred cheaper to maintain the Optim every 6 years) as Aquasana recommends replacing the carbon block every year ($400)...every 2 years on City water. But at least the OptimH2O now has 3 canisters that are retained, and other than the water softener, you just replace cartridges on 3 of the 4.
Carbon block is better filtration - reason I upgraded, as many Cities have the PFAS/PFOS issues that the Rhino will not filter. The RO System will take care of that, though. I am also running their RO system to my fridge after the OptimH2O! I also added UV.
Best of luck, and I hope I was able to help you compare the 2 systems!
@@myoldhousefix Thank you my friend. That clears it up for me. My main reason for looking into a home system + kitchen sink filter is my new awareness of PFAS/PFOS in our drinking water. Shocking and concerning to learn of their presence but nice that we can do something about it. I would like to do an in-home water test pre and post install to really gauge the difference. Are there testing kits that you've used and would recco for contaminant measurements, specifically for looking at those petrochemicals? Lastly, in the efforts to try and save as much money as possible, where and how is the best way to buy the filters? I see their subscription plan on their site which saves a few bucks, but was curious if there were any other places to buy and save. Thanks!!
@@JoeBarbagallo I know, right! Our City started talking about it and we also sit on a Dioxane plume so even though our City installed a carbon system, there are still miles of old pipes and connections that probably pose issues like lead, etc. Did you know that the EWC has identified 400+ water contaminates, yet on average, municipalities only treat for about 80-100. It's scary as we gain the tech to test for more contaminates...yet treatment at the municipal level is lacking. I'm sure you heard about Flint, MI.
I originally had Culligan Water come out and test for the general stuff like hardness, iron, and pH, but I didn't want their salt softening system. I also wrote a blog on drinking water over on our site - That's when I came across Aquasana, during the research. So I had somewhat of a baseline for the basics, and did a follow up with water hardness strips (Lowes, HD, etc). I'm also into the home batista thing, so a local friend and coffee shop owner gave me a LaMarzocco water test as well (I think you can buy on Amazon - watwr test for espresso machines. Its a card type test ) - post testing for pH, hardness, iron, chlorine, etc and the Rhino System reduced to acceptable levels. Here is a link they are giving us here in MI to national labs for PFAS/PFOS/PFOA testing:
www.washtenaw.org/2849/How-to-Test-Drinking-Water-for-PFAS
As for filters, I just signed up for the water for life program to get the discount. Hey, if you decide to go the Aquasana route, if you don't mind using my link in the video description to go to their site, I'd appreciate it! They'll throw me a few dollars for the referral, which helps keep my site running (at no cost to you)! Thx!
@@JoeBarbagallo www.pacelabs.com is another nationwide lab facility.
How about what the drinking water looks like
a lot better now...none of that sediment like in the canister👍
If your prefilter looks like that at 6 months you should think about Chan got it at 3 months... that will make your main tanks last longer.
Hi Rob, I'm not familiar with that, what is it?
@@myoldhousefix that was supposed to say “think anoint changing it at 3 months” if your color goes all the way to the core then your sediments are passing through.
👍
Meh,,yours were 6 months,,,mine (living in Southern California 90703) were like mud and I have to replace pre filter every 30 days and post filter every 60 days!!
30 days...wow, thats bad!!!
@@myoldhousefix you reminded me my post... I think I will record the video this time when I change my pre filter old to new one and then take it to City to show them this is how water they are selling to the residents...!
Are you on well water or city
@@MRBOOOYA I live in Cerritos, CA 90703. I think it is City water, maybe municipal city water. It looks crazy that every 30 days I have to change the 20' pre-filter sediment filter, it is russ'ish , corrision color ....
I think that I needed to talk to the City but I think they don't care!
@@jpthsd yeah, I definitely would record it and show the city!
UV light water filter system
I haven't added the UV yet...
I will be upgrading soon...
holy crap, shark bite fittings everywhere with pex. I bet all the fittings combined costs more then then 200 dollars lmao. $$$$$$$$$ They are quick and easy but you pay for it handsomely. Talking a dollar for a pvc T vs 13 for a shark bite.
Hi Chad. Well there are a couple reasons: 1) for the most part, the items you see came with the install kit 2) for ease of maintenance, permanent connections make zero sense here (the tanks have to be swapped out at end of service life) - always design with maintenance in mide, 3) introducing additional pvc glue/chemicals seems counterintuitive to having cleaner water - the goal in the first place.
You probably needed to use more sharkbites
thats what came with the install kit and it has to be serviceable to swap out the 2 large tanks...the shark bites make that possible vs a lengthy disassembly/reassembly. Work smart, not hard. Systems need to be easy to operate and maintain. 👍
$1552 on Amazon.
they also run big sales on their website pretty often.
We have Aquasana AQ RO3. It is terrible. Leaks all the time. Constantly having to troubleshoot. Your supposed to run the water for 24 hours upon installation or after changing the filters??? Huge waste of water. Do not buy this unit.
that's the Reverse Osmosis, correct?
Cheaper to build using another brand that does the same thing
Brand?
Brand?
Two years later just had it ripped out. No thanks. Multitude of reasons!
Wow, Im really interested why. We've had ours for about 5 years now. Did you have a bad experience, install, etc?
Sorry you think that is the best choose for your family. Just a big waste of money. By the way it is not a softener.
Hi Jim, I'm open to your points on why its not a good solution. I'm always looking for better options.
Testing prior to, and after install confirmed total water hardness levels dropped from 15 to 6 grains.
Don’t use shark bite
@Michael good point!
I try to design my projects with maintenance in mind:
1) when the tanks need to be replaced, or to make repairs (replace psi gauge, etc) or fix leaks, the Sharkbites make it a LOT easier and simplify the disassembly and reassembly
2: the system comes with plastic fittings requiring pvc glue to install (fixed installation). I couldnt see buying a filtration system to clean my water, then introduce the PVC glue contaminates, therefore the Sharkbites are a win/win 👍
Sweet ! All that money on a large in home filtration system, and it doesn’t even remove all pesticides, fluoride and pharmaceuticals?!
Sharkbites huh? Lol
Bottom line is a permanent install is not desired due to maintenance requirements. The tanks have to be replaced periodically So...
I try to design my projects with maintenance in mind:
1) when the tanks need to be replaced, or to make repairs (replace psi gauge, etc) or fix leaks, the Sharkbites make it a LOT easier and simplify the disassembly and reassembly
2: the system comes with plastic fittings requiring pvc glue to install (fixed installation). I couldnt see buying a filtration system to clean my water, then introduce the PVC glue contaminates, therefore the Sharkbites and PEX hard clamps are a win/win 👍
The company customer service sucks.
hi Ginny, Ive had generally good experiences with their tech and customer service. What happened?
The flow rate for this system is just 7.0 GPM, do you not find this kind of low? I was thinking about getting this but am now considering other systems due to this low flow rate.
With 2 of us in the hoise it seems fine, unless you are running 3 or more high flow faucets at the same time. Otherwise, with more people and use you may see a drop in pressure...
The flow rate for this system is just 7.0 GPM, do you not find this kind of low? I was thinking about getting this but am now considering other systems due to this low flow rate.
The flow rate on the website say 7 but on the actual system when you get it says 7-10. So 7 is the low end depending on your water pressure. I just installed today so dont know yet if is worth it. The water definitely tastes better right away. Looks like it is preventing scale as well. I cleaned glass in shower before installing, and sprayed with the new water and let it dry. We have hard water and you would see spots right away, it dried clear. I didnt have any loss of pressure.
Jesse may how many bathrooms in the house? Are you just using one shower at a time? What if your sink, dishwasher and shower are all running together or you have two people showering at once, still no pressure loss?