Why All The Hate? Harley Davidson V-Rod Ride, Review, Impressions... (it's a BEAST!)
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Why Do People HATE The Harley Davidson V Rod? Ride, Review, Impressions...
Why All The Hate? Harley Davidson V-Rod Ride, Review, Impressions... (it's a BEAST!)
I purchased two harley vrods (night rods) a few months back to see what all the hype was about. These bikes get lots of hate from some folks out there and I think it's undeserved. There's a lot to like about the vrod once you get past the fact that they're not your traditional Harley motorcycles. Tag along as I do a quick ride, review, and impressions of the Harley Davidson VRod.
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Here's my review of the Harley Davidson V-Rod/Night Rod. I had this bike a few months back but never uploaded the footage.
Keep that bike!
I test rode one. It was a fun ride, but liquid cooled and having to do valve adjustments, I'll keep my Vulcan Mean Streak 1600 with shaft drive and hydraulic valves.
@@Dave-sw2dm even my Kawi C14 requires a valve adjustment periodically along with a ton of other bikes on the market. Shouldn't be a deal breaker at all. Also vrod engines are bullet proof
@@TripleOG31 , I've owned many shim under bucket bikes. On the Concours 1400 it felt like I was doing open heart surgery. Now, the bike I own that require valve adjustments either have exposed valve covers, (Moto Guzzi, BMW boxer), or have inspection caps and lock nut adjustments. (Royal Enfield, Suzuki thumper.) My Mean Streak cost a fraction of the V-rod, and is low and mean. LOL!
@@Dave-sw2dm Mean Streak is a great bike....but mechanical valves and shaft drive isn't the only difference between them. The Mean Streak isn't even in the same league as the Rod performance wise.
VRod is the ONLY HD I would ever own! Best bike Harley EVER MADE! Its a shame they quit making them.
Hard Target there are only 2 HD I would own, VRod and Fatboy
Rods the only HD I would NOT own. Worst bike Harley ever made. They stopped making them because no one wanted or bought them.
@@vulcanman64 OK👴 BOOMER!
what about the buells? not technically harleys but its the same idea
@@tylerfabish5578 I like some of the Buel's. The V-Rod is the best looking of Buel design's. Best performing Harley they ever made.
Vrod mechanic and engine tuner here. I fully agree with you. These engines aren't just reliable they're insanely robust! With bigger headstuds and head gaskets you can chuck on a turbo or supercharger with absolutely no issues, if tuned correctly ofcourse. We had a stock engine (besides what I mentioned) at 20psi pushing 240HP at wheel (double of what it is stock). We have engines here from 2004 that still purr like a new one. As long as you service these regularly they'll last. For anyone, I definitely reccomend trying one if you're into harleys. I'm actually very sad that they got rid of such a flagship engine and replaced it with something like the Milwaukee eight
Do you know if you can install mid controls on these?
The most underrated HD
I think the thing that pisses me off the most about the VROD isnt the bike itself, but the way the harley haters treated the bike.
Before Harley cancled it, pretty much EVERYONE dogged on this bike and trashed it as hard as they could. Harley haters especially. Calling it a mistake, and a bad bike, and that it was really a "porche with an HD logo." And all kinds of numerous myths and hateful behavior towards the bike.
Then Harley cancles it.
And all of the sudden all of the haters turned around and said "THAT WAS THE GREATEST HARLEY EVER WHY DID THEY STOP MAKING IT?!"
I had never heard so much positive press and praise of the bike until AFTER it was out of production.
Really pisses me off.
Haters use this biked for almost 20 years as pure ammo to trash on harley, and now that the bike is gone, its only gotten worse.
The VROD is a prime example of why harely needs to stop listening to haters when they make new stuff to appeal to people who hate the brand. Because those people are just blowing smoke out their ass and will never buy an HD no matter what they make.
FranBunnyFFXII Damn Brother !!!...say loud from the roof tops will ya please!!...but have fulfillment in knowing WE HD VRodders get the last laugh as we we smoke 💥🔫the haters assholes in style ,..speed and now CLASSIC Quality!!...🤘🏾✨🏍💨👍🏾👌🏾Keep yo’ heads up !!..VRODS!!!
(P.S...remind MF haters that HONDA saved HD’s ass back in the day!!...no this for a fact!!..’cause one of the lead Japanese 🇯🇵Engineers is good friend!!..☝🏾)...ask ‘em where their parts were made huh?..😒
HD owners trashed it. HD owners trash every other HD except the one they own. Mfrs are worse than gaming console fanboys.
preach brother, from a Night Rod owner
If they updated the V rod with a 6th gear, it would be perfect
@Wayne Smith the point being, if the "haters" were a little more open-minded about something different, the sales could've been seriously impacted in a positive way. The two are directly related. Think about it...they sell tons of Low Riders S' because a lot of those guys think it's the "performance" Harley when a V-Rod would blow one out of the water.
I've owned many motorcycles in my time such as R1, R6, Ducati, Rocker C and even scooters but my 2015 Nightrod is my favorite! I will never let it go !
I love the V Rod 🤘🏻coming from a sport bike it’s been a great transition ...it’s both powerful and comfortable .
It's an absolute turd in the twisties.
I scored a 2014 VRod Nightrod this past weekend. 5700 miles and one owner, who placed pillows around it. It was in perfect condition. I’m stoked. I’ve always wanted one. ❤❤
From a owner perspective:
I traded a Fatboy for a VRod and im ridiculously happy, my balls are not shaking anymore like driving a old piece of agricultural equipment, now I can enjoy push the throttle and feel the punch even in top gear, no more slow boring bike, the heat equivalent of solar flares coming towards me from the engine every time I stop in summer times is gone, Im absolutely in love with the harmony and beauty if the design, double brembo calipers at front, hydraulic clutch, aggressive spirit and looking, and everybody fall in love with this bike at the first view people make you questions or just give you ovations about how beautiful is.
The engine is the jewel of this bike, the revolution engine, Co designed with Stuttgart Porsche, Porsche changed the 45 degrees classic engine to 60, incorporated double cams in each head, 125HP with 85 lb-ft @ 9.000 RPM and water cooling system.
The Revolution engine proved it was reliable, as well as powerful, when countless perfection tests were performed on the engine in Germany. The engine spent more hours in a Düsseldorf Test wind tunnel than even a Porsche sports car before successfully reaching 500 hours of non-stop test time. Such a unique, and intense, design shows how meticulous effort went into combining engineering and styling to create something to behold, which was a lightweight and sharp-looking addition to a cruiser class of motorcycles. But it would be unlike the old, favorite cruiser style of Dyna and the Sportster; no, Harley-Davidson motorcycles just saw the advent of something entirely different. Discontinued, why? The VRod wasnt a failure, they sold 190.000 VRods a year!, It wasnt a failure, the whole Indian business sale about 50.000 bikes a year im sure they dream with sale 190.000, the problem was people was getting into the VRods a lot and Harley was affair to lose they roots, culture and the old farts with gray beards buying over marked leather and gear.
I'm from New Zealand where the v-rod was and still is SUPER popular especially among M.Cs. A lot of people were really surprised when it got discontinued because nobody really knew that outside of New Zealand and maybe Australia it wasn't that popular.
They're amazing bikes open to a lot of modification and will pop a fat burnout when you need it to hahaha.
This was probably H-D most reliable Engine, it was bullet proof. I think a reason H-D got rid of it was they never made money on it with repairs/maintenance. It simply did not break. All this bike needed was a 6th gear and more advanced electronics. This Engine could have very easy gone into a touring platform and sell tons of them.
Funny that the only decent performing engine they made was not designed by them! Their new revolution engines suck ass compared to these awesome v rods
@@JereMiah-tg8to Yep, Porsche put their expertise of super reliable engines to Harley, that's why they're so hard to break lol.
My favorite bike! I have one in the garage because it’s a Harley Davidson and it’s got some power! The best of both worlds! If you have to have a Harley but you wanna go fast, get this one! (No shade to other Harley’s 😊)
Gosh this video gives me chills. I sold my 7 year old V Rod last year and deeply regret it.
Hey grendel, don’t worry I did the same. Been without mine for a years now and I’m about to go buy another one as a keeper. I don’t care how much I do or don’t ride it I’m gonna get lowest km one I can find and just keep it. They are awesome and I believe the best Harley. I’m going the original 1130 vrsca and as stock as I can find. I appreciate originality.
I have always liked the V-Rod. I was disappointed when they discontinued it. It was super unique and that's what I liked about it
I have an 06 nightrod and it's freaking amazing upgraded to a sundowner seat and new grips and that's all she needed to make me 100% happy
Man. Thanks for the memory. I had a 2016 night rod. Absolutely loved that bike. Great running, outstanding engine and overall just well designed. I gave it up for a bagger, as that bike isn’t great for long rides and carrying stuff. If I could have 2 bikes, that’s the second one I’m getting, again.
I love mine!!!!!! I had a Big Dog Ridgeback chopper and it really made me want all the engineering that I could get in a bike and this is it! This bike was before it’s time! It amazes me how I can sit at a red light and not put my feet down, ...almost. It loves the mountains and switchbacks.
Everything changes after you ride long enough and become one with your bike.
I love most Harley Davidson motorcycles and owned multiple HD motorcycles. The V-Rod was my first HD and my V-Rod was the most reliable, best looking, fun and most relaxing great ride out of any HD motorcycle I have had IMO.
There's two types of bikers: those that like V-Rods, and idiots.
Every person who hates on them always has some bullshit excuse: it's not a "real" Harley (fact: It's built off a liquid cooled Harley race engine that Porsche had a little input with on preparing the cooling system and heads for the street, the rest of the bike is all Harley,) it's not as fast as a rocket (it's a cruiser, it's not supposed to be,) it's ugly (completely subjective,) etc etc etc. You've heard them all. You can not like the looks of a bike and still appreciate it for what it is. The fact of the matter is that it's a reliable, fast, comfortable, well-adjusted and easy to handle bike and there's just not much to dislike there.
For context: I own a Sportster. I'm just a realist.
I have a 2012 night rod special, flat black with the racing stripes. bought brand new, 48,000km on it, never had a problem. Scary fast.... was 128hp 90ftlbs factory, close to 140hp now. I dont even play in the upper rpm ranges feels like its gonna leave without me... lol...
Correct it’s not like a real harley that’s why it’s so good.
That’s it bro... agree a hundred percent.
it looks fucking sexy.
I was NEVER a HD guy, until I test drove a 2013 Nightrod and bought one, my other bike is Honda liter bike....
I've had one with a scratch built to turbo system on it for 12 years. Not one issue. 154rwhp on 9psi boost. Garrett t3 off a Saab 900.
I have commented on your last V-Rod video! I also own and ride a Harley Davidson V-Rod Muscle! Love it! Glad to see you have done another review and find you have realized how awesome this Motorcycle really is! great performance and handling characteristics! Love the channel keep the videos coming! Thanks!
Sold my Honda RC51 years ago. Bought a 2012 VROD Anniversary Edition with low miles in 2016 and never looked back 👍
D'accord On the forward Control.
I like to use my legs as additional dampers.
My pops has one. I’ve ridden it once but plan to do a test ride video of it this year. I love them.
I test rode a vrod back in the day and loved it. It was one of the only harleys I was interested in.
Love the Video!
A few comments... I appreciate your perspective about the forward vs mid controls. I was fortunate enough to get a 2006 nightrod with mid controls and forward pegs. Coming from riding SV1000s I really appreciate the control and stability I get from the mids. (My HD friends hate the mid controls but that's because they are HD obsessed and they are only familiar with forwards). The ONLY issue I have is a lot of the exhaust systems available (for vrod and family) have issues with the mids. I went for a danmoto 2 into 1 highwayman exhaust for 260$ ish and did the swap myself. A lot of the pipes scrape on right handers/sweepers so consumers need to keep that in mind. The alternative pipes upwards of 1k$ also scrape on right handers/sweepers. I would say that is one of my only issues with it is the scraping of the pipes. (LOUD PIPES, LOUD BIKE. Definitely need ear protection)
As you said, it is a ROCKET! On stock pipes the torque band was 4-6k rpm (ish) but now with the full exhaust swap the band is like 3-7k rpm. I haven't dyno'd it yet and am considering but I have the PCV for fuel management (Dynajet did not have a mapping for my exhaust but they are working on it).
Additionally, the bike is faster than the headlight so that might be a decent upgrade. I live in NH and a lot of my roads don't have street lights...
Lastly, the bars could be a little better, I am looking into more straight/drag style with enough comfort to still cruise.
Thank you again for the video and I hope that you get to ride it a fair amount before it leaves your stable!
I’ve just bought one with mid controls and absolutely love it
I own a 2006 VRSCR , Street Rod, I’ve never been a HD fan, but I have to admit, I was impressed when I purchased this VROD. The shifting is smooth and the ride is so enjoyable. I really love it. And by the way it’s burnt orange as well, but have the mid controls.
This is the 2nd bike that made me want to start riding ( Toecutter’s z1000 was #1)
Man I love your content...I have these exact same bike just yellow with 5k miles in perfect condition. I don't even let that thing get a single scratch. I love the vrod and nightrods... best bikes ever!!
I have a 2015 Night Rod with the full Bassani road rage exhaust full tune and over 12,000 miles and never been in the shop for any repairs love this bike.
I had a vrod I purchased to sell. I was impressed with the power . Didn't like forward controls, mids would have been awesome. I found it a fun bike for short trips, much like a hotrod would be driven. Saturday night fun. Fun in a straight line. The aftermarket exhaust was stupid loud.
I got one last year. Love it.
Love that Porsche designed engine
One of the best Harley-Davidson V-twin engine ever, made by Porsche! Would love to get the drive train one day for a project bike...
Great video, I really enjoy riding my 2014 V-Rod.
Jon I purchased my 2012 Vrod Muscle in November 2021 auction for $9800 burnt orange 280mm tire, low miles 10700. I loved these bikes as well as the Rocker-C...and you are right they wanted $14-16k mid range on these bikes. I must say also everyone at the HD shop hates this bike...but as I told them it's a harley-davidson guys...
The mid controls is another reason why I love my 06 night rod at the time it was the only one with mids it has highway pegs. But I hate the forward control as well it leads to an awkward ride the mids make you feel like your in complete control
Yep 4200 rpms is where it ran hard up to red line, I had two and loved them both the 1130 had a 180 rear tire. I put 60,000 total on this bike that motor is bad ass! It smokes a 109 trust me😆 Should have kept one of them. 😎
I bought my first HD in April 2024 ...2015 VROD muscle, I LOVE IT!! the power the torque the position on the bike, incredible ride and fun fun fun. I get lots of heads turned and compliments on my bike....haters gonna hate but it is HD all day long...the only person that has to be concerned about the bike is the owner, and i am not concerned in any way....i love my bike
Got a 2014 Muscle and love her! a cruiser with attitude!
Rode done at a demo day and I loved the engine. It made power like a jet turbine, so linear and smooth. The chassis was hard for me to like at that time. Coming off my V-Strom 650, the low seat and forward controls were just too much of a change. I’ve always wanted to pull the power plant and put it into a more upright frame more like the VMax.
That bike is so smooth and the sound of it is awesome! I’ve got V&H exhaust.
Love the sound!!!
Add some good adjustable rear shocks and gold fork emulators and proper fork springs and you will love it even more. Owner of a 2007 Night Rod Special from new bought in September 2006. Awesome machine.
love the vrod love the design and the mods you can do for this bike is just awesome. One day maybe im gonna be able to ride one or buy one, nice bike to own lucky you. Ride safe bro
Dude, I just test rode a 2006 Night rod today, and I friggin loved it! I have a Heritage and they are such different bikes. Thanks for the video. Are you in Huntington Beach? Your intro looked like the San Clemente skatepark...am I right? I grew up down there but now libe in Nevada. Thanks!
Thanks, brotha! I'm next door in arizona. 🤙🏍
i fell in love with this bike. they said u wont be able to ride with the standard cruzers and i said thats because they wont be able to keep up😉!!!
I got a 2017 night rod. Love it. Just wish It came with an after market cruise control.
Man I love the night rod.
The only Harley Davidson motorcycle I'd actually like to own
I have a 2011 VRod Night Rod after owning a GSXR and I instantly fell in love . Yeah it got so much hate and I rode with a LEO and Military who rode Ultras and all that and I could smoke their 1800s even on top end . And sport bike riders I think were just confused by it until I revved it on the highway then I'd usually get followed to a gas station and then questions about my Vrod never ended lol . I plan on buying a Muscle and making it a mini tourer .
I own a king but I loved riding the Vrod. I couldn't keep one as my daily or long run bike but it's fast and fun.
I bought a Super Glide in 2006. Didn't fell right and sold it a year later.Bought a Night Rod in 08 with mid mount controls and still have it.To me it is the perfect street/muscle bike. p.s it is still factory striped with no add on garbage.If I get my 70 Chevelle SS 454 4 speed going again I might have to post my first video
Love mine man! Few over the years but yes they love to be in that higher rpm band and scream!
Harley needs to bring this back. I will 100% buy this. I can't find any with the blacked-out engine. I've come around with the look. It's this and the Low Rider S that I love. It would be great if they have stage kits so that I could create a beast
I ordered a 2007 Night Rod Special in oct 06 received in March 07. Still own it. Awesome bike. Get lots of comments. It’s funny how the die hard Harley guys don’t like it until they ride one.
The VRSCD and the VRSCR Street Rod that was only built in ‘06-‘07 are the only models that came with mid controls. I have a ‘06 Street Rod and I love it. It was even rated by Cycle Gear as a best used bike.
VRSCD ‘08 also came with mid-controls. I have one and love riding it for shorter trips. Though it’s not the bike I use for long distance road trips (500+ miles).
Gorgeous bike! I remember when they were new. I loved the V Rod. I couldn't believe the motorcycle company, that always built bikes for old geezers, was making such a cool bike. I was amazed that people hated the V Rod. I still want to get one some day.
Good times Jon, always wanted to write a V-Rod I haven't had the chance so I'll just take your word for it.
There great bikes my brother in law has screaming eagle edition but he can only ride for about 45 mins now not the most comfortable. When I got my 15 valkyrie I had to see how it would compare I could stay in front till 4th gear the vrod hits the high rpms and takes over fantastic bike.
In 2012 they changed the seating footpeg config, way better!!!!
The older models with the 180 rear tire were built for a better top end! I also sent my stock cams off to web cam in California, and had them grind for better performance! I just recently purchased a 1981 Honda CBX 1050! Badass! Getting her tuned next week.✌
Proud V-Rod Muscle Owner here :)
I can't wait! this is the only HD I would ever own it's fast reliable awesome looking, I'll be getting one by July if possible
I regret getting rid of mine. Had a 2017 V-Rod Night Rod Special--equipped with saddles. I gave her up for a '19 Street Glide. Love the glide, but still miss the Rod.
I think the V Rod is the best bike Harley have made, I love that one you were riding nice looking machine. 🏍️👍
It's the best motor they (Porsche) ever built. The bike itself, meh...
One of my all-time favorite bikes yeah 90% of Harley Riders want a cruiser the V-Rod is a total performance muscle bike most people don't realize either that the engine was designed by Porsche I love this style to think it's one of the sickest looking bikes out there had a 1985 Kawasaki Eliminator ZL 900 right out of high school very similar style looks like a drag bike
I’ve had many bikes. Borderline insane amounts. I spent more upgrading my 2019 sgs then the cost of the 09 vrod I have and I LOVE my vrod. Best bike I’ve ever own and bought it for 6k. Crazy
I live in Chandler and am buying a 2011 Sedona Orange Night Rod Special just like the one you had. Great time brother!
Picking up my new Rocket 3r this morning. Love these fat tire muscle bikes.
I'd like to see your reaction to the new bronz when it hits the streets. I've got a road king for long distance rides, but if i had space for two bikes the v-rod is next. It inspired me to get my endorsement and start the journey on two wheels.
I have a 2007 Night Rod . I bought it new . It has a 180 rear tire and mid-controls .
Just an fxdr owner passing thru...lol but this will be my next bike
Hell yeah I've had my vrod muscle for 10 years now 30k miles I will never get rid of it. Shame they discontinued it.
Will neva part with mine either. Hey have you had the cam clearances checked at all ? Still going well at 30 K miles ?
My favorite bike. Got a 2004 in black with the 1130cc engine. I need to upgrade. Thanks for showing this Jon. Great vid. You got a sub and thumb for it. 😷
Thanks jon's I have one and feel the same
I have a 2014 CB1000r and a 2013 Nightrod in my garage.... this is the only HD I'd buy. Can't believe HD is still selling air cooled engines in 2020. The Nightrod / Vrod runs HOT, so not having it liquid cooled would be awful here in Florida.
My hotrodded 87 does the same. Goes like hell after 4000 rpm. I don't know about as fast as a vrod, but she screams like a banshee
2:58 Might want to tighten that front fender down 😆
yeah, she was pretty loose! Lol
@@JonsMotoGarage Beautiful bikes! Can't wait to own a Muscle. It might be the one I keep and baby until the end.
Great review 🎉
Vrod Muscle 2016.. Beastly and love it.. currently 11k all me and highway.. Love it.. enjoy
One the Harleys i would want. Wonder how its to ride on longer trips.
Check the front fender on the black V Rod . At 3 minutes in the video you can see it’s really loose. I had a 2008 night rod special. Greatest HD ever made imo.
If you come across a vrod street rod grab it up. They had a shorter wheelbase and more ground clearance. Set up more for handling.
I need to look into this!
Hit the nail on the head sir, underrated bike. And maybe a m109...vrod match?
I have a 2008 v rod night rod special w/12000 miles on it and I’m keeping it until I die.
SAME HERE WITH MY VRSCX.....
I bought a 2012 new. 30,000 miles amazing machine.
I like that you wear a Simpson Bandit helmet. I still have my Simpson that I bought in 198. Gloss black and yeah when not worn it's kept in the original cloth bag it was shipped in. Which bandit model do you wear?
Love the VROD and the Breakout, just couldn't justify the cost...
I'm a magna owner (3rd gen, bobber, i have lots of footage on my chanel). they weigh 520ish and make just under 90hp with the mods i have on it. They go pretty well. what do ya'll think the differences are??
How is the comfort of the vrod for the long rides?
The Vrod was and still is a awesome bike and you are right a blast to ride, that being said similar to the m109r these bikes are not for everyone once you get used to that big rear tire they are nimble to ride with no issue but you have to put a bit more of effort. Most people are so used to riding in 180 tire and below that anything above that they say it doesnt turn I usually laugh at that, but then again that is me and every rider experience is different if they dont experiment on other brands and models then they will not know the difference or aquire new skill set . I have a M109r B.O.S.S and love it 👍👍😁
I almost bought one of these but I ended up with an m109r instead as the price point was a fair bit cheaper for similar age and mileage bike. I raced my buddy on his vrod and I beat him but his was stock and my 109 has exhaust and programer but stock to stock would likely be edge to the vrod. Vrod is also lighter and way lighter steering and maneuverability compared to the 109 but once u are used to either of them you can do whatever you need to.
The best performing, best braking,best handling Harley Davidson that they ever bolt an axle through.
I bought a VRod just for a laugh and I'm still laughing, they're great fun. I raised the rear ride height by an inch to improve the ground clearance and it no longer wants to kill me.
hi brotha I have an 07. is that a stock handle bar? am I able to put a more comfy bar?
I had one for a while and the only problem to me was the excessive overheating in the right side of the bike. Does anyone have had this problem? Pease, let me know. And thank´s Jon for the review.
Great video! I was considering the VRod Muscle and the M109R. I ended up with the M109, the VRod just looked too small for me. 🍻
I owned a 109R now I ride a V-rod muscle I liked the 109R but I love my V-rod
I'm 6'5" fits me great.
Ive owned 2 Vrod Muscles..
Currently ride a Gsxr 750 but looking to buy another Vrod muscle with low miles..
I totally regret letting my last Muscle go.. ..Only Harley id ever buy again..
Big fan of the Night Rod in Sedona orange.