I want to install soft-close concealed hinges on a cabinet with doors milled to ½" at the edge. It is a single vanity cabinet, 180 degree opening, face frame style with ⅝" overlay. Is there an option that allows the hinge cup to be drilled further in to the door body? At 1 " into the milled edge, there is enough thickness to drill safely. Is there a way to extend the inside edge of the face frame to shift the cup? I am 'working above my pay grade' so I am flummoxed by all the choices except what I am looking for. Tkx for any input.
There are a few different choices here. You can use a compact hinge with a shallow cup design such as this one with a spacer turning the 11mm depth needed to 9.5mm - www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-hinge-cup-spacers.html Hinge- www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-38n-soft-close-hinges-105deg-compact-blumotion-5-8-overlay.html or you can use this hinge with a 9mm depth bore- www.woodworkerexpress.com/110-degree-universal-soft-closing-hinge-screw-on-salice-cbp2ae9.html
Question about what hinges to buy: We added shaker style trim to all our flat kitchen cabinets (50 years old with face frames and old fashioned hinges). Now that the cabinet fronts are deeper (due to the trim depth), the cabinet doors at the corners of the kitchen hit each other when opened so that each door can only open about 60 or 70 degrees. Is there a hinge type that would allow the door to move inwards a tiny bit when opening so that it won't hit the adjacent door?
You bet! Here is one of many available on our website. Be sure to use the filters and check off 1" and the list will populate.- www.woodworkerexpress.com/one-piece-face-frame-hinges-106deg-one-piece-self-closing-face-frame-hinges-two-cam-adjustment-1-4-to-1-7-16-overlay-boring-pattern-45mm-10181812.html
I have a compact hinges. Is there a way to make them soft closing by adding a piece to them, or do I need to replace the entire hinge on all of my cabinets?
You bet! We have a adaptor that is super easy to install. There is also a video i made on this page as well on just how easy- www.woodworkerexpress.com/unisoft-adapter.html
Hello, I have frameless cabinets. The doors have no overlay, but have 5/8" lip that rests on the cabinet. I'm having a tough time finding the right soft close hinge.
This is essentially a Half Overlay Frameless door. The Hinge+Base Plate options are: 1- Full Overlay(18mm)+9mm BasePlate 2 - Half Overlay(9mm) + 0mm Base Plate.
My cabinets were built forty years ago with 3/8 inch inset hinges. They are failing. Can you give me any advice on Compact Cabinet Door Hinges that will work with my cabinet doors?
With the compact hinges can my doors finish flush to the outside of the cabinet on a 11/4” face frame with the frame holding flush to the outside of the cabinet?
Hi! You can use this hinge. It is designed to work on any size overlay and would work perfectly for 1 3/4" www.woodworkerexpress.com/grass-02284-15-108-degree-tec-863-face-frame-self-close-hinge-overlay-1-7-16-and-greater-screw-on.html
Are you looking for concealed hinges? If so these would work since you don’t need the cup drilled- www.woodworkerexpress.com/miscellaneous-hinges-surface-mounted-hinges-fully-concealed-description-self-locking.html
@@Woodworkerexpress Here is the cabinet I'm talking about van2b.com/product/sprinter-van-wheel-well-cabinets/ But now I think maybe to do overlay doors and use something like this super simple hinge mobileimages.lowes.com/productimages/de7abc9e-d92b-48db-9d05-9be93fc0d3b6/65360117.jpg
Hi there, thanks for the great videos!! I’ve a question. I installed 1 1/4 overlay hinges to my kitchen cabinets. My issue is around 1/2 inch gap on the hinge side door when the door is closed. Do you have any idea how to get it fixed? Thank you!
The door of my medicine cabinet is flush on all sides with cabinet frame (1 5/16” thick). There is a full mirror on the door (5/8” total thickness). It uses Blum compact hinges (30.310 - 11.02 which is the same as compact 33). The mounting plate shows 1 ¼”. Problem: the bottom of the door rubs against the cabinet frame when opening and one of the hinges broke. Can you recommend a replacement hinge that would allow me to adjust depth? Also, it seems to me that the overlay should be 1 5/16" instead of 1 1/4”.
looking on WE ,still cant quite figure out soft close hinges for a face frame (1.5" wide ) cabinet with inset doors, might have to screw to the back of the face frame (aprox 3/4" back spacing to side wall) as the cabinet is one piece and will have 3 doors ,the center opening doesn't have a "side" to attach to, like the ends will. what would work that's in stock, for me to use as a mock up prior to building all the cabinets, Thanks
I have the Blum face frame inset hinges, when cutting the width of the cabinet door, I usually take the cabinet opening minus 1/8 on each side. So I have 1/8 gap. Do I need to cut less, I don’t want the cabinet door to come out to narrow if I precut everything first, Not sure of the formula if there is one, thanks
Thanks for these videos, but I have a situation that no video seems to answer. I made some 7/8 inch face frames because that was the wood I had. I subsequently made 3/4 inch doors to INSET into these frames! No wall, just the frames. Any advice on what concealed hinges and methods will work for that situation?
Hi Milton! You would need the Blum Half overlay hinge- www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-100deg-clip-top-hinge-half-overlay-screw-on.html and this hinge plate- www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-9mm-inset-face-frame-plate.html
Really great, & through vids!! Thanks for that. - I have a apparently nearly unsolvable project; I want to put front doors on out fireplace "cabinet(s) (both sides, beside of the fireplace.) I want the wood doors covered w/ledger stone, on the "front, as well as well as on the sides of the "cabinet. I want the front/door hinge to swing open to allow storage inside for electronics, but the hinge must go inside (because of the stone outside), and allow enough clearance for the wooden.door thickness, as well as the ledger stone. I think my best bet so far is to use Offset Hinges to allow the swing/clearance past the bind created by the corners. Pretty hard to describe, but any thoughts? Thanks, Bob W.
You would deduct 1/8" generally. Let's say the opening is 24" wide, add the 3/4" overlay for both sides of the opening, then subtract 1/8". The doors should be each 12 11/16 wide
Question - I'm working on a frameless install. Looking at the hinge part that attaches to the cabinet ... the part that is directly connect to cabinet has 4 very small prongs about a 1/8 to 1/4 inch in height. Is the purpose of these prongs to lift up that hinge up so that it has the needed space for adjustments. If so, then do these prongs need to be assured being seated on the cabinet when tightening the hinge down. thanks
It sounds like you have hinges that are designed for face frames. Are the 4 prongs similar to what we show in this video? If so, you would need to purchase face frame hinges as seen in this video. th-cam.com/video/unyx9G_mqlw/w-d-xo.html
They are both great hinges. In general, The compact hinge is designed to be used for faceframe cabinets and the cliptop are for euro frameless cabinets. Unless you have an inset door, then you would use the cliptop for both frameless and faceframe cabinets.
I have a house built in the 50's; it has Inset/Overlay doors with a 3/8 (9.5mm) inset. They have a face frame with door and frame thickness of 3/4" (19mm). I am having difficulty figuring out the best solution for concealed hinges that will work with my application. Do you have any information that can help?
@@MichaelTran11814 I ended up going with blocking. I cut a piece of wood to come out flush with the face frame I screwed that to my cabinet. Being my cabinets were built on site when the house was built, each block had to be custom sized to fit each hinge mounting plate. I used Blum 71B7550 155 degree hinges with a Blum 175H9190 mounting plate and I bought some Blum 181.6130 spacers just in case. I tried multiple trial runs on a "test door" to achieve the proper set back to drill the holes in the doors for the cups on the hinges. It works well, but it's not as straight forward as I would have liked. As they say, I'm only responsible for my work, your results may vary.
Although it sounds like you came up with your own solution I think the set-up you have is called rabbeted hinges. They have the 3/8 overlay you talk about and were common in older houses. I know Salice makes hinges for that design. Not sure about Blum.
You can but it is not recommended and you will most likely run into issues with the doors hitting each other. We are having a few Free promos going on right now as well. Here is a list of items that you can add for free using the coupon codes. Limit one per order: Quart (32oz) Titebond Wood Glue- FREEQUART Pocket Blow Gun- FREEAIR Fastcap GluBot- FREEBOT Knee pads- FREEPADS Blum tape measure- FREETAPE Blum Screw driver- FREEDRIVER Blue Light Safety Glasses- FREEVISION
We just bought a house and the kitchen cabinets, with face frame, have many different sizes of European hinges. How do you measure in this case? Different brands and sizes of hinges. Some have shims, so we have no idea how to measure. Some are measuring 1 1/4", 1 1/8" and 1". What do we do??
Hi there! You can watch this video to find out the overlay of each hinge that you would like to replace. th-cam.com/video/e3OXpUneYKo/w-d-xo.html We do carry every size available and can help you figure out which hinge will work best for you. Give us a call at 1-855-993-4968
Great info but totally useless for what I was looking for. I wanted to know if compact cabinet hinges like the ones he's showing have a quick release mechanism? I already know they don't, the easiest way to remove the cabinet door is to take off what he calls the "middle screw". It's the one that connects the door portion of the hinge to the cabinet portion. I needed to do that because our bathroom sink cabinet door hinge tore off at the bottom spot. The screws worked loose and no longer bit into the cheap "wood" surface. So I took off the other end via that middle screw and replaced the 2 small (#6) screws with 2 slightly wider (#8) ones, that still fit through the holes in the metal hinge plate. Those wider screws bit into the "wood" and now the hinge in once again snug, problem solved
It sometimes is depending on the manufacturer. Also! We are having a few Free promos going on right now as well. Here is a list of items that you can add for free using the coupon codes. Limit one per order: Quart (32oz) Titebond Wood Glue- FREEQUART Pocket Blow Gun- FREEAIR Fastcap GluBot- FREEBOT Knee pads- FREEPADS Blum tape measure- FREETAPE Blum Screw driver- FREEDRIVER Blue Light Safety Glasses- FREEVISION
3/4 is the overlay (the amount that the door hangs over the face frame of the cabinet when the door is closed. So the difference between 3/4 and 5/8 would be an 1/8 of an inch that the door is hanging over when closed
Hi, my face frame is 1.5 inches and I want full overlay. Is there a hinge that works? I have 1.5 inch overlay compact hinges but the doors bind to each other. The doors were made so there's 1/8 space between doors, I am considering notching the frame to use full overlay hinges that won't bind since doors will cover frame anyways.
You thought you were done? What about "clearance", zero, vs. 6mm vs 4.5mm,.? Many people are going to watch this hoping you will actually include "most of everything",.including clearance.
This compact hinges can be use as frame inside door cabinet? Thank very much for this class
What full overlay hinge can i use for a 40mm thick shaker door? Hope yoy have a video to show a thick door ioening right beside each other, xheerd
Is there a way to install a 35mm hinge where a 26mm was previously installed? Could the hole be enlarged by using a 35mm jig?
You can but you would either need to do it on a drill press or clamp a piece of sacrificial wood ontop to start the new sized hole
@ thank you!
I want to install soft-close concealed hinges on a cabinet with doors milled to ½" at the edge. It is a single vanity cabinet, 180 degree opening, face frame style with ⅝" overlay. Is there an option that allows the hinge cup to be drilled further in to the door body? At 1 " into the milled edge, there is enough thickness to drill safely. Is there a way to extend the inside edge of the face frame to shift the cup? I am 'working above my pay grade' so I am flummoxed by all the choices except what I am looking for. Tkx for any input.
There are a few different choices here. You can use a compact hinge with a shallow cup design such as this one with a spacer turning the 11mm depth needed to 9.5mm - www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-hinge-cup-spacers.html Hinge- www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-38n-soft-close-hinges-105deg-compact-blumotion-5-8-overlay.html or you can use this hinge with a 9mm depth bore- www.woodworkerexpress.com/110-degree-universal-soft-closing-hinge-screw-on-salice-cbp2ae9.html
Question about what hinges to buy: We added shaker style trim to all our flat kitchen cabinets (50 years old with face frames and old fashioned hinges). Now that the cabinet fronts are deeper (due to the trim depth), the cabinet doors at the corners of the kitchen hit each other when opened so that each door can only open about 60 or 70 degrees. Is there a hinge type that would allow the door to move inwards a tiny bit when opening so that it won't hit the adjacent door?
I need a hinge for a cabinet I'm building that is frameless with a 1 inch overlay. Is there such a thing? I've looked on line and cannot find one.
You bet! Here is one of many available on our website. Be sure to use the filters and check off 1" and the list will populate.- www.woodworkerexpress.com/one-piece-face-frame-hinges-106deg-one-piece-self-closing-face-frame-hinges-two-cam-adjustment-1-4-to-1-7-16-overlay-boring-pattern-45mm-10181812.html
I have a compact hinges. Is there a way to make them soft closing by adding a piece to them, or do I need to replace the entire hinge on all of my cabinets?
You bet! We have a adaptor that is super easy to install. There is also a video i made on this page as well on just how easy- www.woodworkerexpress.com/unisoft-adapter.html
Hello, I have frameless cabinets. The doors have no overlay, but have 5/8" lip that rests on the cabinet. I'm having a tough time finding the right soft close hinge.
This is essentially a Half Overlay Frameless door.
The Hinge+Base Plate options are:
1- Full Overlay(18mm)+9mm BasePlate
2 - Half Overlay(9mm) + 0mm Base Plate.
My cabinets were built forty years ago with 3/8 inch inset hinges. They are failing. Can you give me any advice on Compact Cabinet Door Hinges that will work with my cabinet doors?
With the compact hinges can my doors finish flush to the outside of the cabinet on a 11/4” face frame with the frame holding flush to the outside of the cabinet?
This is what I would also like to know. He says at the end that it can accommodate up to 1 and 7/16 inches so I'm guessing yes (?)
@@johnnyonly163 actually I just did a project and I found out for myself it does work.Thank you for the reply.
I’m trying to replace a discontinued European framed hinge …. Mepla ac1440…any suggestions?
What hinge do I need for a frameless cabinet?
I'm replacing my cabinet doors and hinges. The overlay measured 1¾. I couldn't find this size hinge, so will 1½ work?
Hi! You can use this hinge. It is designed to work on any size overlay and would work perfectly for 1 3/4" www.woodworkerexpress.com/grass-02284-15-108-degree-tec-863-face-frame-self-close-hinge-overlay-1-7-16-and-greater-screw-on.html
Can you recommend hinges for a cabinet made with 1/2 plywood?
Are you looking for concealed hinges? If so these would work since you don’t need the cup drilled- www.woodworkerexpress.com/miscellaneous-hinges-surface-mounted-hinges-fully-concealed-description-self-locking.html
@@Woodworkerexpress Here is the cabinet I'm talking about van2b.com/product/sprinter-van-wheel-well-cabinets/
But now I think maybe to do overlay doors and use something like this super simple hinge mobileimages.lowes.com/productimages/de7abc9e-d92b-48db-9d05-9be93fc0d3b6/65360117.jpg
Great video, why are these called compact hinges? Are they smaller that regular cup hinges?
Hi there, thanks for the great videos!!
I’ve a question. I installed 1 1/4 overlay hinges to my kitchen cabinets.
My issue is around 1/2 inch gap on the hinge side door when the door is closed.
Do you have any idea how to get it fixed? Thank you!
Thanks!
Where is the gap? Between the back of the door and the cabinet whenever the door is closed?
The door of my medicine cabinet is flush on all sides with cabinet frame (1 5/16” thick). There is a full mirror on the door (5/8” total thickness). It uses Blum compact hinges (30.310 - 11.02 which is the same as compact 33). The mounting plate shows 1 ¼”. Problem: the bottom of the door rubs against the cabinet frame when opening and one of the hinges broke. Can you recommend a replacement hinge that would allow me to adjust depth? Also, it seems to me that the overlay should be 1 5/16" instead of 1 1/4”.
looking on WE ,still cant quite figure out soft close hinges for a face frame (1.5" wide ) cabinet with inset doors, might have to screw to the back of the face frame (aprox 3/4" back spacing to side wall) as the cabinet is one piece and will have 3 doors ,the center opening doesn't have a "side" to attach to, like the ends will. what would work that's in stock, for me to use as a mock up prior to building all the cabinets, Thanks
I have the Blum face frame inset hinges, when cutting the width of the cabinet door, I usually take the cabinet opening minus 1/8 on each side. So I have 1/8 gap. Do I need to cut less, I don’t want the cabinet door to come out to narrow if I precut everything first, Not sure of the formula if there is one, thanks
I generally take off 3/16 from the opening for the width and the ht. That usually leaves a nice tight reveal
I purchase 1/2” overlay style hinges. But I’ve found the measurement to be 3/4”. I only found 1/2” or 1 &1/4” available. What should I do? Help!
We have plenty of the 3/4 overlay. Here is one of them
www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-38n-soft-close-hinges-105deg-compact-blumotion-3-4-overlay.html
Thanks for these videos, but I have a situation that no video seems to answer. I made some 7/8 inch face frames because that was the wood I had. I subsequently made 3/4 inch doors to INSET into these frames! No wall, just the frames. Any advice on what concealed hinges and methods will work for that situation?
Hi Milton! You would need the Blum Half overlay hinge- www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-100deg-clip-top-hinge-half-overlay-screw-on.html and this hinge plate- www.woodworkerexpress.com/blum-9mm-inset-face-frame-plate.html
@@Woodworkerexpress thank you. I forgot to mention that the doors are glass-paneled, so all components of the hinge MUST be hidden from average view..
Really great, & through vids!! Thanks for that.
- I have a apparently nearly unsolvable project; I want to put front doors on out fireplace "cabinet(s) (both sides, beside of the fireplace.)
I want the wood doors covered w/ledger stone, on the "front, as well as well as on the sides of the "cabinet.
I want the front/door hinge to swing open to allow storage inside for electronics, but the hinge must go inside (because of the stone outside), and allow enough clearance for the wooden.door thickness, as well as the ledger stone.
I think my best bet so far is to use Offset Hinges to allow the swing/clearance past the bind created by the corners.
Pretty hard to describe, but any thoughts? Thanks, Bob W.
Have you thought about using the aventos style lift system? That would get rid of the thickness issue. www.woodworkerexpress.com/aventos-hl/
How to adjust how tight the door closes?
How do you calculate Double door sizes with the correct middle reveal, using Blum Compact hinges on a faceframe with 3/4 in Overlay ?
You would deduct 1/8" generally. Let's say the opening is 24" wide, add the 3/4" overlay for both sides of the opening, then subtract 1/8". The doors should be each 12 11/16 wide
Can you suggest hinges for a 1/4” overlay face frame cabinet with lipped doors?
Please give our customer service team a call, they will be more than happy to help you out 1-855-993-4968
Question - I'm working on a frameless install. Looking at the hinge part that attaches to the cabinet ... the part that is directly connect to cabinet has 4 very small prongs about a 1/8 to 1/4 inch in height. Is the purpose of these prongs to lift up that hinge up so that it has the needed space for adjustments. If so, then do these prongs need to be assured being seated on the cabinet when tightening the hinge down. thanks
It sounds like you have hinges that are designed for face frames. Are the 4 prongs similar to what we show in this video? If so, you would need to purchase face frame hinges as seen in this video. th-cam.com/video/unyx9G_mqlw/w-d-xo.html
Question: what is the difference or pros/cons between the Blum compact and the clip-top? I don't quite understand when to use which. Thanks!
They are both great hinges. In general, The compact hinge is designed to be used for faceframe cabinets and the cliptop are for euro frameless cabinets. Unless you have an inset door, then you would use the cliptop for both frameless and faceframe cabinets.
Also, the maximum overlay for the compact hinge is around 1 9/16 and for the cliptop hinge the max overlay is 3/4. Hopefully that helps!
Great video! So many options!!
Thank you! There are quite a few!
I have a house built in the 50's; it has Inset/Overlay doors with a 3/8 (9.5mm) inset. They have a face frame with door and frame thickness of 3/4" (19mm). I am having difficulty figuring out the best solution for concealed hinges that will work with my application. Do you have any information that can help?
Adding a note: I think the proper term for these type of doors is "partial inset". Thanks.
@@bobc3819 Did you ever find out the solution for this? I have the exact same issue and I was hoping to get a soft close compact hinge.
@@MichaelTran11814 I ended up going with blocking. I cut a piece of wood to come out flush with the face frame I screwed that to my cabinet. Being my cabinets were built on site when the house was built, each block had to be custom sized to fit each hinge mounting plate. I used Blum 71B7550 155 degree hinges with a Blum 175H9190 mounting plate and I bought some Blum 181.6130 spacers just in case. I tried multiple trial runs on a "test door" to achieve the proper set back to drill the holes in the doors for the cups on the hinges. It works well, but it's not as straight forward as I would have liked. As they say, I'm only responsible for my work, your results may vary.
Although it sounds like you came up with your own solution I think the set-up you have is called rabbeted hinges. They have the 3/8 overlay you talk about and were common in older houses. I know Salice makes hinges for that design. Not sure about Blum.
Can I use a Compact Hinge on a Frameless Cabinet ?
You can but it is not recommended and you will most likely run into issues with the doors hitting each other. We are having a few Free promos going on right now as well. Here is a list of items that you can add for free using the coupon codes. Limit one per order: Quart (32oz) Titebond Wood Glue- FREEQUART
Pocket Blow Gun- FREEAIR
Fastcap GluBot- FREEBOT
Knee pads- FREEPADS
Blum tape measure- FREETAPE
Blum Screw driver- FREEDRIVER
Blue Light Safety Glasses- FREEVISION
We just bought a house and the kitchen cabinets, with face frame, have many different sizes of European hinges. How do you measure in this case? Different brands and sizes of hinges. Some have shims, so we have no idea how to measure. Some are measuring 1 1/4", 1 1/8" and 1". What do we do??
Hi there! You can watch this video to find out the overlay of each hinge that you would like to replace. th-cam.com/video/e3OXpUneYKo/w-d-xo.html
We do carry every size available and can help you figure out which hinge will work best for you. Give us a call at 1-855-993-4968
Great info but totally useless for what I was looking for. I wanted to know if compact cabinet hinges like the ones he's showing have a quick release mechanism? I already know they don't, the easiest way to remove the cabinet door is to take off what he calls the "middle screw". It's the one that connects the door portion of the hinge to the cabinet portion. I needed to do that because our bathroom sink cabinet door hinge tore off at the bottom spot. The screws worked loose and no longer bit into the cheap "wood" surface. So I took off the other end via that middle screw and replaced the 2 small (#6) screws with 2 slightly wider (#8) ones, that still fit through the holes in the metal hinge plate. Those wider screws bit into the "wood" and now the hinge in once again snug, problem solved
Blum has just started making compact hinges that clip off. They will be out very shortly
Can you change your hinges?
Absolutely!
Is it common to have multiple overlays in your kitchen? I've measured all of my cabinets and I have overlays of 1/2", 3/8", 1/4", and 3/4".
It sometimes is depending on the manufacturer. Also! We are having a few Free promos going on right now as well. Here is a list of items that you can add for free using the coupon codes. Limit one per order: Quart (32oz) Titebond Wood Glue- FREEQUART
Pocket Blow Gun- FREEAIR
Fastcap GluBot- FREEBOT
Knee pads- FREEPADS
Blum tape measure- FREETAPE
Blum Screw driver- FREEDRIVER
Blue Light Safety Glasses- FREEVISION
What is the difference between 3/4 and 1/2 over lay? I have side mount.
3/4 is the overlay (the amount that the door hangs over the face frame of the cabinet when the door is closed. So the difference between 3/4 and 5/8 would be an 1/8 of an inch that the door is hanging over when closed
Hi, my face frame is 1.5 inches and I want full overlay. Is there a hinge that works? I have 1.5 inch overlay compact hinges but the doors bind to each other. The doors were made so there's 1/8 space between doors, I am considering notching the frame to use full overlay hinges that won't bind since doors will cover frame anyways.
Same here. And they don't make finding the right hinge easy. If you find a solution let me know. I don't want to notch into the face frame
You thought you were done? What about "clearance", zero, vs. 6mm vs 4.5mm,.? Many people are going to watch this hoping you will actually include "most of everything",.including clearance.
Similar to "this machine"...? What the...?? That looks like some kind of chemical plant pump assembly. Was that a joke?
Not everything I need to know. Like How do I get the dang doors off?!?
There should be just one screw each holding the hinge on for the compact hinge
@@Woodworkerexpress Thankyou, seems simple but maybe include that as well as which screw in a video called Everything you need to know ;)
If I'm asked to subscribe before the video shows anything, I block the channel
Super!!!