50/50 Man vs Traditional Man REVISED
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I’m the breadwinner in my marriage, but the “rich” guy equated manhood to one’s finances. He also disrespected the 50/50 guy by implying he’s personally less of a man because of his annual income. According to TODAY’S marriage/dating statistics and from what I witnessed, most modern day women don’t respect either man. Let’s not pretend like unemployed pookie is not dicking down stay at home wives.
broke men get more women than anybody. very clearly money isn't the be all, end all to a woman's love, affection, and duty.
Perception vs reality is what's being argued!
Traditional man cannot function thoroughly in today's modern world with the polices , laws and structured system - he has to be a hybrid man..
Society has empowered women over the past 50yrs since the feminist movement- inadvertently emasculating men in the process- we did nothing to empower men along that same timeline..
Even oprah Winfrey opened a school in Africa to empower young girls into leading women🤔 - then those girls should then grow up and magically find that knight in shining armor?😫 while we did nothing to create those men..
Women are now on their soap boxes beating their chest saying look at me, I'm doing better than you, you're a bum...
so now society is here to tell men they ain't worth shit cause they not functioning like a traditional man..
Without a doubt, men have lost their way - we can't use a antiquated tool(approach in this case)to fix a modern day technological problem... that's what i see hear in this sit down convo with the rich guy.
Men should be talking to men with solutions - I didn't hear solutions coming from neither men(especially the rich guy).. I see the rich calling out the poor guy cause he's not doing things the way he's doing it- a few things that hit me wrong is when he told the poor guy to open a business and have people working for you for $14 per hr- how is that better than the slave driving argument he accused the poor guy of doing to his woman?..
Any job pays anybody below minimum wage or below national average is running a slave farm -but I digress...
There's more than one way to skin a cat.. bring them all to a conversation- especially a conversation of guidance..
Both men are in the wrong in that convo 😏
Facts 💯
Smh
@@Saint_Darius egggssszactly, the VAST majority of women are HAVING SEX with men who they're giving NOTHING to
It cannot be overstated that YADA(red sweat suit) is a well known scammer, with a history of domestic violence. The picture of his wife's bloodied head from him hitting her with a barbell is still on the internet. Him talking about respect from a women is absolute lunacy. His scamming coins must be getting low so, you can always resort to pandering to black women for money and clout.
But yeah @weneedtotalk stands with a scammer because at the cost of the safety of his family he still "100% provides" these guys will sacrifice character for the sake of saying they can do something for a woman...you can't make this up
Domestic abuse!!
For real?
What's is name I have to go look him up..
please share the link to what you allege of him- I can't believe it til then
He sit there talking all that ish yet doing the worse
Mind blowing
@tabootabletalkpodcast I did get that vibe from him during his emotional exchange. Matter of fact, I've been around guys like him. Their women had everything they never asked for, but their personality was like an abused child.
@@MrHammer2088 His legal name is Yahdan Maat Yada. There's been a few YT'ers that exposed him but, a lady @MISSLAURENRADIO here on interviewed his "legal" wife some years ago with all the receipts of the scams, abuse and criminal charges.
If you don't pay for anything, she won't RESPECT you.
If you pay for everything, she won't APPRECIATE you.
Ask wil smith and tirese they pay and don't get respect or appreciation
Wow. You just said everything.
Yall need to take responsibility and stop having kids with women you dont like
She won’t appreciate you which leads back to she won’t respect you. You go 50/50 she won’t respect you. Regardless where you are in the spectrum as a man. She still might not appreciate you or respect you. Spoiling her as a traditional man doesn’t mean she respects you.
@@madant22 I guess I'm using appreciate in a different sense.
If she's not out there, working to bring something to the table then, imo, she lacks the point of reference to really appreciate the work that I do to bring things to the table.
If she knows how hard she works to make 50k, then she can appreciate how hard I must work to make 100k
If she's sitting at home all day waiting for me to bring home the money, she'll just associate the money with me instead of associating it with the work I do to make it.
Obi, respectfully, the poor guy made some good points that you just glossed over and the rich guy has some holes in his argument that you didn’t address.
I agree with you and I had to go in there with my own comment
Perception vs reality is what's being argued!
Traditional man cannot function thoroughly in today's modern world with the polices , laws and structured system - he has to be a hybrid man..
Society has empowered women over the past 50yrs since the feminist movement- inadvertently emasculating men in the process- we did nothing to empower men along that same timeline..
Even oprah Winfrey opened a school in Africa to empower young girls into leading women🤔 - then those girls should then grow up and magically find that knight in shining armor?😫 while we did nothing to create those men..
Women are now on their soap boxes beating their chest saying look at me, I'm doing better than you, you're a bum...
so now society is here to tell men they ain't worth shit cause they not functioning like a traditional man..
Without a doubt, men have lost their way - we can't use a antiquated tool(approach in this case)to fix a modern day technological problem... that's what i see hear in this sit down convo with the rich guy.
Men should be talking to men with solutions - I didn't hear solutions coming from neither men(especially the rich guy).. I see the rich calling out the poor guy cause he's not doing things the way he's doing it- a few things that hit me wrong is when he told the poor guy to open a business and have people working for you for $14 per hr- how is that better than the slave driving argument he accused the poor guy of doing to his woman?..
Any job pays anybody below minimum wage or below national average is running a slave farm -but I digress...
There's more than one way to skin a cat.. bring them all to a conversation- especially a conversation of guidance..
Both men are in the wrong in that convo 😏
Facts. I was thinkin this the whole video. Most points the poor guy was makin was on point. Was he a little defensive, yes! but it don't mean his point wasn't valid. He made more valid points than the rich guy. The rich guy value comes from his money. Without that, he'd be another guy on the streets strugglin to get above average women.
@@Dee--Jayright and he claims his wives work for nothing. But they both work for his company. That’s why one gets 250k a year and vacations with friends. Like come on bruh this dude Yada was a street dude that tucked away his money before he went to jail and reinvested it. If he fell off today none of his wives would hold him down and he’d get scrapped on alimony and child support. Plus the main wife was stacking every year with M’s he wouldn’t know what to do if she left his behind 😂😂🤦🏽♂️. He had no business ventures of his own with them besides his business so if he did get a divorce would at least make money while losing money off of the divorce. I hear what Yada said. It’s just hard for a regular man to feel what Yada is saying when he didn’t make his first millions the right way. You can’t wash away your way with religion and wealth you garnered not off your own blood sweat and tears but from the backs and money off of your own peoples suffering and look down on the next man. You was a millionaire at this dudes age Yada. The message is there but from the wrong teacher. And we can use brother Malcom X an say he was similar but he never looked down on the man because he was a child of God, how can I a child of God look down on my fellow man. That’s like calling a homeless person on the street good for nothing because they’re on the street. You know how many righteous men in the Bible have took hard walks of life to live better in the end. Women don’t want to work that’s obvious but they asked for more opportunities. Just make sure you get your bread up as a man. It’s never going to be 50/50. I cook, I work, I take care of the kids to. I’ve adopted roles that would’ve been traditionally a females lane and still work. So I’m doing more than the average woman is now. A lot of women want to work even when you do pay all the bills. That’s on them.
The idea that a man isn’t a man unless he is paying 100% of the bills is crazy and completely ignores the economics of the day. The reality is that not everyone can afford to do that in America. The middle class is rapidly shrinking. The disparity between the rich and the poor is only getter wider. True manhood shouldn’t rest on you covering all of the expenses of your house hold. It should depend on your character, integrity, vision and action.
So don’t have a women and it would be much cheaper. Why get into something you can not afford? That’s stupid. Become better in all areas and adapt to the climate instead of complaining about it. We are men for a reason this ain’t easy.
@@kingjay1524 The foundation of your response has a few flawed assumptions. First, “…don’t have a woman” assumes all women have that expectation. They don’t. All American women don’t even think that way. So rather than “don’t have a women” as a response, it should be find a woman who can get on your program.
Secondly “become better in all areas” assumes that a man, at his highest self, would still be able to cover all the expenses in the house. No. You can be a man, a great man, operating at the best of your ability, and that still not translate to you being able cover all the expenses in your household.
I have a friend, good man, Godly, good
moral character, no kids. Got married while he was in residency to become a doctor. He made 30k a year as resident. Had to do that for two years. His wife worked to help cover their expenses at the time. By your logic my friend wasn’t a man while he was in residency because he couldn’t cover all the household expenses. He makes 280,000 now and still doesn’t cover all the expenses because his wife loves her job and wants to contribute financially as well.
But the rich man logic, my friend isn’t a man. That’s foolishness to me
@kingjay1524 Why get into something you can not afford? Not all women require their man to pay 100% of all bills. If this was their requirement, then 90% of them would be single because only 10% of all men can afford to pay all the bills. Thus, we would have a dwindling economy, and women would only procreate with 10% of men. None of this even makes mathematical sense.
The comment above is correct. The economy is set up for a two parent income. Women wanted to work, and this is the economy now. It is what it is.
My question is, why only in the black community is this an issue? In the Hispanic community, this is not a conversation.
You see, us average men that built this world have made this first world "America" so safe that women actually think our value is only in income. Take this same conversation to a third-world country, and this is a non-starter.
Men are needed for survival, not just income.
Take a look at China 🇨🇳 and the "left over" women who waited too late and would marry any man who fell in their lap.
You see, this conversation is only here in America. And the truth is, men don't become valuable until they become needed, and that's when disaster strikes. That average man you talk down on is a police officer, or he's a teacher or works in sanitation.
Point is average gets with average, and income does not determine manhood.
Perception vs reality is what's being argued!
Traditional man cannot function thoroughly in today's modern world with the polices , laws and structured system - he has to be a hybrid man..
Society has empowered women over the past 50yrs since the feminist movement- inadvertently emasculating men in the process- we did nothing to empower men along that same timeline..
Even oprah Winfrey opened a school in Africa to empower young girls into leading women🤔 - then those girls should then grow up and magically find that knight in shining armor?😫 while we did nothing to create those men..
Women are now on their soap boxes beating their chest saying look at me, I'm doing better than you, you're a bum...
so now society is here to tell men they ain't worth shit cause they not functioning like a traditional man..
Without a doubt, men have lost their way - we can't use a antiquated tool(approach in this case)to fix a modern day technological problem... that's what i see hear in this sit down convo with the rich guy.
Men should be talking to men with solutions - I didn't hear solutions coming from neither men(especially the rich guy).. I see the rich calling out the poor guy cause he's not doing things the way he's doing it- a few things that hit me wrong is when he told the poor guy to open a business and have people working for you for $14 per hr- how is that better than the slave driving argument he accused the poor guy of doing to his woman?..
Any job pays anybody below minimum wage or below national average is running a slave farm -but I digress...
There's more than one way to skin a cat.. bring them all to a conversation- especially a conversation of guidance..
Both men are in the wrong in that convo 😏
@@kingjay1524You must be living under a damn rock. To not see how the economy is getting worse, and worse. By your logic. The majority will be growing old alone. Or women are gonna share the top earning men.
The rich guy wasnt just arguing points, he was tossing insults and assumptions. No doubt the poor guy got in his feelings and couldnt argue his point as well but he wasnt wrong. "Just make more money" has never been a solution. Its not an answer for the masses. Its just telling black women to not commit until they land a rich guy and look down on men who havent found big success. Thats not gonna bring us forward, thats just polygamy and division.
Modern women are insufferable towards men.Capitalism exploit womens but make woman believe that their hardships and happiness is caused by the average working class man who should enslave himself for women.Women then use the power of the vote like revenge to extract wealth from men promote injustice on men and excuse themselves from accountability and opertunity from men.........karma is a bitch
I can’t fully agree with you on this one Obi. I see where you were trying to go with your commentary, but from what I saw, the “rich man” wasn’t just trying to impart wisdom. He was talking down to the younger man. Trying to tell him who he is and how he should feel.
That’s not a frame that’s conducive to a message being fully heard or well received.
I can hear what the older man is trying to convey, but the way he started that shit was borderline disrespectful. When he finally took it down a notch and started speaking in a more fatherly/mentoring manner, it was too late for proper communication.
Completely agree. He tried to change his approach but it was too late by then.
Exactly!!
How is he gonna tell this man his woman don't respect him(because she cool and clean?😫).. the rich guy follow up response should be do you help her cook and clean..
He wasn't trying to guide that poor man
Perception vs reality is what's being argued!
Traditional man cannot function thoroughly in today's modern world with the polices , laws and structured system - he has to be a hybrid man..
Society has empowered women over the past 50yrs since the feminist movement- inadvertently emasculating men in the process- we did nothing to empower men along that same timeline..
Even oprah Winfrey opened a school in Africa to empower young girls into leading women🤔 - then those girls should then grow up and magically find that knight in shining armor?😫 while we did nothing to create those men..
Women are now on their soap boxes beating their chest saying look at me, I'm doing better than you, you're a bum...
so now society is here to tell men they ain't worth shit cause they not functioning like a traditional man..
Without a doubt, men have lost their way - we can't use a antiquated tool(approach in this case)to fix a modern day technological problem... that's what i see hear in this sit down convo with the rich guy.
Men should be talking to men with solutions - I didn't hear solutions coming from neither men(especially the rich guy).. I see the rich calling out the poor guy cause he's not doing things the way he's doing it- a few things that hit me wrong is when he told the poor guy to open a business and have people working for you for $14 per hr- how is that better than the slave driving argument he accused the poor guy of doing to his woman?..
Any job pays anybody below minimum wage or below national average is running a slave farm -but I digress...
There's more than one way to skin a cat.. bring them all to a conversation- especially a conversation of guidance..
Both men are in the wrong in that convo 😏
@@MrHammer2088 It's because he has an agenda. A campaign for pandering to women. Seems like he wasn't to be the new Derrick Jackson.
@@MrHammer2088 based on his responses, I'm not too sure the apparent "rich guy" has had a particularly diverse life experience... likely just was dead-set on money & his pride up until this point.
The problem with the binary view of manhood espoused by rich man is that it ignores reality. If manhood were to rest on one criteria, I don’t think complete provision would be an adequate one.
Perception vs reality is what's being argued!
Traditional man cannot function thoroughly in today's modern world with the polices , laws and structured system - he has to be a hybrid man..
Society has empowered women over the past 50yrs since the feminist movement- inadvertently emasculating men in the process- we did nothing to empower men along that same timeline..
Even oprah Winfrey opened a school in Africa to empower young girls into leading women🤔 - then those girls should then grow up and magically find that knight in shining armor?😫 while we did nothing to create those men..
Women are now on their soap boxes beating their chest saying look at me, I'm doing better than you, you're a bum...
so now society is here to tell men they ain't worth shit cause they not functioning like a traditional man..
Without a doubt, men have lost their way - we can't use a antiquated tool(approach in this case)to fix a modern day technological problem... that's what i see hear in this sit down convo with the rich guy.
Men should be talking to men with solutions - I didn't hear solutions coming from neither men(especially the rich guy).. I see the rich calling out the poor guy cause he's not doing things the way he's doing it- a few things that hit me wrong is when he told the poor guy to open a business and have people working for you for $14 per hr- how is that better than the slave driving argument he accused the poor guy of doing to his woman?..
Any job pays anybody below minimum wage or below national average is running a slave farm -but I digress...
There's more than one way to skin a cat.. bring them all to a conversation- especially a conversation of guidance..
Both men are in the wrong in that convo 😏
Lol that’s why patriarchy has fucked men up. It has cornered us to play certain positions for us to feel like we are men.
We gotta evolve like the women when it comes to these definitions.
Definitely actively listening is key. However, disrespect usually cancels assertive communication. Telling another man that his wife will cry when talking to another man goes directly towards manhood. And SOMETIMES, this trumps effective communication. I wish we was honest about this.
Yea effective communication goes out the window when someone is being blatantly disrespectful.
This is a different conversation about how we dont reasonably understand finances. It's hard enough to provide for yourself as a single person. Every other ethnicity performs as a collective. Black men love to be martyrs
We really don’t.
@AlexMinor true. I stand corrected. Men in general love the martyr narrative
The ones with money do, its a shaming tactic to emasculate n belittle.
EXACTLY. Whole time i'm looking at these "50/50, sole provider" conversations i'm telling myself "black folks REALLY dont understand money"
The "Rich guy" is one of those "start a business" black elders.
Those people are wasting your time with general advice that isn't generally useful.
"Just make enough money so you can afford to pay for everyone." is not helpful advice.
I think the term "50/50" is used too literally. I expect my woman to be financially invested in this relationship just like I am. It doesn't have to be 50/50, but you gotta put SOMETHING into the pot.
I make over 100k, but why would we live off of 100k when we could live off of 150k?
Exactly, why live off 45K or 50K when we could be 80 90 100K+.
The truth is not every man can be rich. The system is designed that way. You can work hard all your life and still die broke.
Nall most can but few will. Few actual do what it takes to become rich. You don’t have to be rich to provide nor protect lol
We live in a capitalist society. It's statistically impossible for most men to be rich, or even in the "high earning" category. @@kingjay1524
Economic pyramid...unrealistic era
@@kingjay1524 No most can't. If you are making more than 100k a year which is what you need in most places to pay for a whole family forget about if you live in a high cost of living city it probably one 150k+ you are talking 15 percent maybe 20 percent of the whole population. Are we really telling black men only 20 percent of you deserve marriage? And when you look at black men its even a smaller percentage. Yes we should strive to have more higher earning black men but that doesn't happen within one generation.
@@mrt094 gotcha. My preface is, that we have the ability to do so, now whether we DECIDE to do so is different. Most do not want to put in the work to do so. Again from another comment I wrote, nobody force you to do, to live where you live, etc but yourself. We got to stop with our circumstances control our destiny. We got to take control of our circumstances and do the necessary to succeed. Again most will not bc it's not easy. You don't have to be rich to get married, however I suggest you have the ability to provide and protect for majority of that union. It's Biblical but most don't follow in line with that and wonder why she don't follow your "program." I digress.
The issue with the "50/50" concept being preached against by women is that it's not even 50/50 when it's broken down. A lot of relationships or households that have taken this dynamic on do NOT split bills straight down the middle, not rent, not mortgage. It's "50/50" until it's time to determine what that '50' is. You'll find that in a lot of cases it's 80/20.
Good stuff bother I was looking for this
Yep, when they go to dinner, who pays for the dinner? When something goes wrong with the car who takes car of it? If the home needs a repair, who takes care of that? Even if he's not doing the repairs himself he's finding someone to get it fixed (likely without getting financially robbed like a woman would). I doubt he's going to his woman asking her for her half of the home repair lol. It doesn't make sense.
@@Tony_Wes it's as @TheBusinessBroadcast says, "Men gather resources, women gather men."
Yeah 80/20 is still considered 50/50 to a lot
Well 50/50 includes household duties and study after study has shown women do majority of housework even when they work and contribute financially. So that evens it back out to 50/50
So we listening to a scam artist? Check how he made his money. This is sick. He positioned this conversation with a vulnerable man to draw the support of women who think this way. Research Yada and all his scams, cheating, multiple wives that he mistreated etc.
That's is name - yada?
Is that is real government name?
What's his real name. That won't pull up anything...
It’s crazy to tell men you supposed to work and then die. F that. Thats why I single life is the way. I don’t have to worry about nothing this. Like is this really the alternative !? I’m good. I build my business and live how I want to live. That’s a man. Stay strong Kings
I swear we ass backwards. You need millions of dollars for retirement and the majority of people will not be able to that by themselves especially working for average salaries. The amount of sacrifice a person will have to put out to achieve this will disqualify a large number of spouses. I need to invest in a retirement community REIT. The number of elderly single people is going to be insane. Sadly, we are not going to have any generational wealth.
Paying 100% in America means you’re begging to lose 50% of your assets in divorce. If you don’t do 50/50 in the beginning you will be giving up 50/50 when it ends.
Why would you be worrying about what will happen if you divorce. Not a good mindset to have
The thing about this that annoyed me is that most people are regular and make 40-50k and they call them broke poor and everything else. Most people are regular and they are calling everything under luxury broke.
I feel like the "poor guy" was an actor brought in to make a specific point in favour of the "rich guy"
I understand as man you shouldn’t make excuses but 50/50 man was carrying the weight of your manhood being disrespected.Telling Man he ain’t Man is not good intro to a conversation.
I agree he was defending himself n wasn’t emotional n was making good points like “ you dont know my wife “ for him to say she dont respect him / or If I talked to her she’d be crying.
Sorry allen I got to disagree with you one this one. We don't live in the world where one income suffice. And not everybody's going to be a business owner. I know you're not talking about all however If my choices are to work a job to support my family and not really get to enjoy much of my life or not have a woman. I would choose not to have a woman or legacy. And you Brought up the Asian community .most Asian puerto rican Mexican businesses. I see the entire family's working, the mom and the kids.
Facts
The point is stop complaining about what the world is & do something as a ma, that will put you over the top. Stop making excuses & make action. I use to have the same “well the world is this” mindset & I achieved beyond my dreams in a 10-month span once I realized I can do what I want in this world. Id suggest you read The 50th Law of Power” 🙏🏾
It's all about FINANCE. The path to one's purpose doesn't usually lead to financial riches. Many of my friends have chosen to be get PhD's and pursue jobs in higher education. While they may have good incomes. None of them are swimming in money. 2 income households are the norm in this country. Many BW think WW don't work outside the home, proving that they don't know w-people. There's also this notion in the black community that you can gain the world through hustle. Hustle will get you some but not the vast amounts of wealth that bw are routinely demanding as a normal amount of money. Living within a man's means would be the most effective way to bring black families together. Not buying a 2nd Mercedes, a 6th high priced bag, or going to Greece.
Building together is the 🔑. You have to crawl before you walk.
If the only way you can garner traditional female behavior from a woman is paying 100% of the bills, and not due to your temperament, character, leadership, and protection in all ways, then you've lost. Yes finances are important, but a good woman will submit to your leadership and happily play her role if you are doing all other things right.
If y'all splitting bills 50/50, but she knows your work ethic is solid and you are performing at what she knows is your best, then it can work. I know many couples like this, even ones where the woman is much better educated and making more money, but she submits and play her role because he plays his. We just never hear from those women because they are too busy enjoying their husbands, kids, and families.
You can still be a leader but you’re definitely not traditional if you’re still requiring a traditional woman. Nor should you demand a woman to be traditional if you can’t hold up your end of the bargain as the PROVIDEr. The thing men and women get caught up in is wanting to be in roles that stroke our egos to feel important. Most relationships are hybrid, meaning that the man and women play several roles and do what’s needed. So therefore the traditional relationship is a non-existent factor for a successful long term relationship
@@BlackGodKing-oi2gr If you carry yourself well as a man a woman will want to be traditional whether you are paying all her bills or not. A man who is not paying 100% of bills does not mean he does not provide. And if you're stuck on a man having to pay 100% of bills in this current economic reality then you are asking for a fantasy, because this is simply impossible. Other races of women are working and playing their traditional roles, regardless of how many degrees the woman has or even if she make more. Keep finding reasons to sabotage reality.
Ooooooooooo you preaching good Sir!!!!! Whew 😮💨
They submit to pookie and Ray Ray all the time Obi is lost on this one
How many women stay in relationships with loser ass men because of good sex? Let's talk about that.
I'll put a nail in the coffin for this entire argument because I'm honestly sick of it. The whole topic of "50/50" vs traditional is based entirely in ego and self-interest. The primary purpose of marriage is for proliferation of the FAMILY unit, meaning creating the proper social foundation for your CHILDREN. Not YOU. That implies DUTY as a function. Which means it's not about YOU. Any woman who has the means to contribute to the family, but expects the man to take on the responsibility solely while she sits back and does nothing is a SELFISH woman, unfit to be wife or mother. Period.
Tired of hearing thinkpieces on flawed ideologies from broken people.
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I think the rich guy was out of line and was trying to paint a picture that the other guy said wasn’t true. And to add this part as well, the presumably “poor guy” wasn’t emotional. He was defending the image of his relationship to a man who was depicting it as his wife being an unhappy slave cuz she cooks, cleans, and works. The rich guy seemed to be more emotional cuz he trying to convince a man that he isn’t a man. Any man would be defensive about that if they felt they were a man. If that “poor man’s” wife respects him, nurture’s him, and works a full time job then i don’t see the issue. Today’s society is making things issues that aren’t real issues. I would understand the rich man’s point of the poor guy wasn’t working and not fulfilling his role as a man while his girl did everything but that’s obviously not case. Then the rich guy made a point as to because he’s rich and takes care of everything his wife’s respects him. We have seen many instances were rich men aren’t respected by their “soft life” wives. Ask Tyrese, Will Smith, Joe Smith, and countless others rich men who their wives blatantly overtly disrespected them. Money don’t make you a real man nor a respectable man. Respect is garnered through character and integrity.
The rich guy was trying to impart wisdom and the $14/hr guy was in his feelings, defensive, and over emotional.
Well said.
@themainlion nah the rich guy was being very disrespectful. Trying to tell a man he not a real man cause he not living the life u believe a man should live is super disrespectful. That man wants to be active in his children's lives.
@@themainlion you got it all wrong disrespectfully brother.
Paying 100 of everything only guarantees u getting 100 screwed over in court
As a man, my divine assignment is always to strive for more. Having said that, what I bring to the table has value, even if it does not allow me to pay 100%. Kevin Samuels was referenced a lot in this video. In the last months of his life he constantly talked to female callers who did not want to "settle" for average earning men who brought home roughly $40-45K as husbands. Samuels consistently defended those men for a number of reasons. 1. The cost of living has reduced the number of people who can support a household off one person's income. 2. While a man is called to provide and protect (and problem solve and procreate) and his money definitely is important, a man is more than his finances. 3. Women don't want a man who can provide for them; they want a man who can provide *_A LIFESTYLE_* for them.
We, as men, must always strive to be providers and we are called upon to sacrifice. That is our lot in life. Having said that, we must not fall into the trap of letting women finesse us into trying to keep up with the Joneses.
I strive for more for me only, now days that's the best way to go!
I am certain those men who dont work harder to thrive should've just married Samuels
You’re take on this was all wrong, even at the end you tried to say the community is bad because of men like him ( guy on right ). Dude is with his woman building what is so wrong about that?
Seems to me that you support the woman mentality of them waiting at the finish line for the winners while you do all the work so I can see why you said for men to wait 15 years then to start but even that’s wrong. With todays economy its going to take two n thats just how it is. Dad n granddad had the same jobs that we have now working the same hrs n could afford a family of 7+.
Younger men of today seen that but are being told “ ohh nah you need a stock portfolio elon musk would be proud of, working 2 jobs 16 hrs a day, treat the gym like a part time job, own a business, and be a Top 1% NFL prospect in n out the bed, and pay 100% of the expenses for a woman to simply “ respect you “ n thats not even guaranteed. Men get your passports.
Facts. Respect from your woman doesnt solely come from being a martyr. It comes from having balls, standing on morals, giving everyone the household a purpose.
You and your spouse should have healthy competition financially. If my wife gets a raise, i strive to get a higher raise. If i cant , i get another job or start a business, and she does the same. Being a woman's retirement plan doesnt garner respect. The average person cannot support a family by themselves and when they try, they wind up taking unfeasable risks. Thats what created the dj Envy's of the world, amongst other greedy ass people that think taking your shit is providing for their spouse of no utility.
Everyone cant be rich. Everyone cant be an employer. Everyone cant be a boss
Not every man is going to be successful nor own a business nor will they all make over six figures. Are those men suppose to not ever pursue women n die alone with their legacy?
When did finances start dictating what a man is? If anything the rich guy was trying to gas light ,the younger brother was just defending his manhood, nothing emotional about it. You say they respect it a man pouring everything into his legacy but how many of those men today have been divorced because “ you work too much “. If that was what they truly respect the richest men on the globe wouldn’t of gotten divorced. You need a work / family balance or you will be left.
☝️this part.
My thoughts exactly. Man makes the money, money never makes the man. Telling a man he isn't a man because he can't cover 100% of his and another persons bills is extremely arrogant and demoralizing. Men, don't let rich men - who've gotten lucky in their life - tell you you're lesser than simply because he has more money and ability to provide. There are a lot criminals who can provide well too. Does that make them more of a man?
Even if poor guy goes out and make twice is salary at $35 per hr, he would still struggle to take care of himself in major cities like NY or LA..
The problem in our community is financial literary.. if you bring home $10k a month yet spends $15k you're broke and you will be slaving your whole life and die leaving nothing for your heirs to build on..
This conversation is far too binary. Not nearly enough context, which is potentially damaging in the long run.
I think we also need to remember that what was also a proven model was our parents and grandparents who were regular income people with often one income. They lived within their means. We can't leave out the unwillingness to live within reasonable means these days
Nah. Times are different. Back then you could graduate from high school and work a job in the factory, earning enough to take care of a family. Cost of living has skyrocketed to where most households need 2 incomes. Plus, I think we’re over exaggerating older generations. Women were excluded from being in the workforce and only stayed in those relationships out of survival
@RST94 You need 2 incomes, true. You know what you don't need? 4 or 5, which is what some of these women really want. 2 incomes worth is a minimum at best, gets you disqualified at worst.
Women were excluded from the workforce in which generation? Now you are exaggerating. Women in our parents' generation were a part of the workforce and did not have these absurd requirements.
Also, we gotta pick one. Either we pick that men back in the day tended to be sole providers for their families which is a good example or pick them being sole providers left women in a problematic situation of not being able to leave. We can't use the same situation to shame current day men AND claim it's the only reason most women stayed.
Merely providing 100% effort and being financially secure doesn't define one as a man, nor does it guarantee the respect one deserves. This channel has featured numerous videos addressing the issue of men not receiving the respect they rightfully should, even when they seem to be doing everything right. The central argument here revolves around the concept of "benefits."
Obi's main point primarily focuses on the idea of benefits, particularly in the context of legacy. The wealthy man's benefit lies in gaining respect, as he consistently emphasizes this aspect. On the other hand, the other brother's benefit appears to be his cooperation with his wife in building their home.
The notion of manhood varies and may not be fully appreciated by women, regardless of how often it is discussed or dissected. Ultimately, what truly defines our purpose as men are the benefits we derive from it.
@rthur. I agree. I think we should be careful about shaming a man because he may not be as ambitious as we are. Ambition + providing + legacy isn't everything. Young brotha, though triggered, said something interesting. He said he wants to enjoy his family.
This made me think of my grandfather. My grandfather had a business that from all appearances was successful, his name rang out in the community. Decades after his passing I'm sure his name still rings out. What is also true is my grandfather was a difficult man. He did not have the best relationship with his wife and children and that may have been a big contributor to why that business did not survive much longer after he passed.
Moral of the story, for me, is what ultimately matters as a man is the experience with your family and what you mean to them. If I had a choice between being a billionaire and obvious provider respected by many etc but my family interaction is dysfunctional vs being an average earner but I have a non dysfunctional family dynamic, I would choose the latter. I'm not saying people can't do both. What I am saying is the former is not the end all be all and as men part of being a man is figuring your own way to the benefit of your family however that looks. To your point, however that benefits you and your family
@@alc4864 I’ve never met a woman that required her man to have 4 or 5 jobs 😂 What kind of women are you talking to?
My grandfather didn't have anything but is knowledge and skills was what we looked up too, money wasnt a factor and when he died it tore the family up because he was the strength but he worked hard and did what he was supposed
This guy doesn’t want to work hard tho
Let me add this as well...by this logic of providing 100% of the provision a women needs as the only means of garnering her respect...if you fall off(cause a large percent do, whether that was in their control or not) are you no longer worthy of respect from your mate???
This conversation is an example of *abundance* vs *scarcity*
My issue is that other minorities don't seem to have this issue. The men who whatever to provide, but their women also will work to provide as well. Yet the men in these homes are completely seen as men because they provide more than just finances to the home. They provide direction, they provide protection and they provide provision.
I agree we need to redefine roles. Why? Because even if I'm providing 100%, if my woman is making money, I think it will create resentment if she just gets to keep her money to herself. The whole "His money, is our money and my money is my money" is a recipe for disaster going forward.
Facts.
They have redefined what a womans role is or more so delegated her roles amongst the household while the mans is stagnant n never changing.
Here's the thing 50/50 was based on if the women wanting control in the house whether they make the money or not. I'm 48, and my mother said you have to pay the cost to be the boss. My dad made 100k in the 80s and they were married for 53 years until he passed. She also worked with a masters degree and still came home and cooked every day except the weekends. I'm the youngest of 3 boys. There's no way she could've controlled us if she left my dad. We cleaned the house once we got old enough my mother didn't clean anything except the kitchen after cooking. All this is BS what dude is talking about. Is being a man providing or how much is provided. Was James Evans considered a man or was Sweet Daddy cause he had more and could do more?
Perception vs reality is what's being argued!
Traditional man cannot function thoroughly in today's modern world with the polices , laws and structured system - he has to be a hybrid man..
Society has empowered women over the past 50yrs since the feminist movement- inadvertently emasculating men in the process- we did nothing to empower men along that same timeline..
Even oprah Winfrey opened a school in Africa to empower young girls into leading women🤔 - then those girls should then grow up and magically find that knight in shining armor?😫 while we did nothing to create those men..
Women are now on their soap boxes beating their chest saying look at me, I'm doing better than you, you're a bum...
so now society is here to tell men they ain't worth shit cause they not functioning like a traditional man..
Without a doubt, men have lost their way - we can't use a antiquated tool(approach in this case)to fix a modern day technological problem... that's what i see hear in this sit down convo with the rich guy.
Men should be talking to men with solutions - I didn't hear solutions coming from neither men(especially the rich guy).. I see the rich calling out the poor guy cause he's not doing things the way he's doing it- a few things that hit me wrong is when he told the poor guy to open a business and have people working for you for $14 per hr- how is that better than the slave driving argument he accused the poor guy of doing to his woman?..
Any job pays anybody below minimum wage or below national average is running a slave farm -but I digress...
There's more than one way to skin a cat.. bring them all to a conversation- especially a conversation of guidance..
Both men are in the wrong in that convo 😏
What a man is or does in a relationship is all subjective. It’s cringy to me when another man says you’re not man if you don’t do this or that.
Bro this gotta be my new fave video of yours. Keep it up Black Man. You doin gods work
Yada is putting it as the man is basically a wallet. He’s not mentioning anything else about being a man.
Just like a woman. He doesn’t know what a man is himself.
And the moment he cant provide something, he's no longer a man
Thats why i don’t take his message serious
One of our biggest mistakes far to long is only looking at the results and not studying the journey
I respectfully disagree with you on this one. I think in this day and age it is simply not feasible, or reasonable to expect every man to be the same provider men were a century ago. The mere fact that women have entered the work force and are competing with us for the same spots already means that from the get go our odds of landing those high paying jobs down the line are even lower than they already were. A telling part of this conversation happens when the rich man says ''you need to work towards employing people working for 15$". I say fair enough, but then you need to find people willing to take those jobs. In other words the economy isn't designed for everyone to make 6 figures. My point isn't to say that men shouldn't work hard my point is that what makes a man can't be boiled down to how much money he brings home otherwise I'd be giving women license to reduce me to a wallet with legs and a d*** for occasional entertainment. Granted the man on the right was argumentative and unwilling to listen. He kept cutting off the other man and resorted to cheap personal attacks. I would argue however that the man on the left wasn't talking to him he was talking down to him, monologuing about the fact that he was a true man and the other one was not. He wasn't trying to teach , he was bragging and using the other man as comparison to do it. In other words the man on the right made it personal true, but the rich man did the exact same thing in reverse. You'll notice, whenever KS addressed a guest directly about his shortcomings he usually didn't use himself to discuss what success looked like ( unless provoked lol ) . He was harsh, much harsher than the rich man here but he simply asked questions and pointed out factual elements from which he drew conclusions. I don't think either one of these men were in the right frame to have this conversation or maybe the format was the issue I'm not sure. One was emotional, combative and unwilling to listen understand or learn. The other one just bragged. He wasn't trying to motivate his brother to work harder towards a greater goal. He was comparing himself to him in order to highlight how much better he was. That's not helpful or constructive. That's self aggrandizement.
I dont understand where the guy on the right was “ emotional “ n unwilling to listen. What was there to listen to? “ You’re not a man because you dont pay it all “ or “ You’re girl would cry if I talked to her “. The guy on the left gave no wisdom for anybody to listen to n only out of touch with reality ppl with means will agree with him. Guy on the right had decents points to what he was saying n he was barely even talking.
@@jerimiahjackson4235 You won't hear me defend the rich guy lol. That being said there were better ways of reacting and responding to it than what the other guy did.
As I said. I dunno if the format of the video was at issue or really just their personnalities but the video was kind of an L for the both of them.
I think a lot of these 50/50 vs 100 conversations are missing the greater political and economic context. For the last few years we've been dead set on encouraging women to climb the employment ladder while slowly raising the cost of living to the point where every household needs 2 incomes just to make ends meet. Not to mention the erasure of Black boys in school and the obstacles put out here by the criminal justice system.
The self esteem of black boys has been severely diminished while we provide them fewer resources to cross over into manhood. The lies being told to women are duplicitous and contradictory but they almost always meets the goal neutralizing and erasing Black men.
Like why isn't 50/50 men like me out here talking. Because the majority of 50/50 men aren't like this brother. And what is the crazy part is I never had to have a woman take care of me.
And I want to say every other culture especially in America know that men and women both have to work from Latinos to Asians to white ppl etc. Only 18% of all women in America are able to be house wives. 68% of Americans live check to check. The average mortgage on a house is over $2,000 for a family of 4 also the price of rent is slightly higher than that. On top of that food prices have gone up 9.9%.
The problems is this conversation isn't being based in reality around what's factual for a group to make it. Was Martin Luther King not strong because Coretta worked? Was Malcolm x less of a man because his wife worked? Like come on now. Lmaorotmff 🤣 but it is what it is.
You want to know why men like him feel so attacked? Because constantly and constantly his manhood is attacked in every single way everyday. This is a form of PTSD but we call men emotional instead of actual understanding what is going on in society its wild.
Well said
This was a gem
I don’t know about this one Obi…some great points raised, but there is something inherently toxic about the mindset that a male needs to be making all the money - pulling 100% of the financial weight before he can be a “real man”. I think efforts should be made to carry us in that direction and that should always be the aim. However, how realistic is that for every man in today’s society? Manhood is not linked directly to finances it’s more linked to your character traits, moral compass, decision making and problem solving skills, and emotional composure.
I hope you also find it inherently toxic for men to expect submission from women.
@@RueWestbrooks I don’t see what that has to do with my comment, but yes I do. A lot of expectations can come across as toxic. Expecting a certain behavior out of another autonomous human (that is not your child) can be entitled, toxic behavior.
Yikes bad take my brotha! The average MAN BUILT the world you live in. Not everyone can be CEO's. There is an Average Income for a reason! The economy is NOT set up to have Men make all the money to provide 100% of bills. The capitalist economy is NOT set up like that. And you talking about your grandchildren and who you surround yourself with and that's nice, my brotha, but that motivational stuff doesn't change the numbers. Let's stop shooting average income earners down because there is a place for us all, and neither would be here without the other.
Edit: In regards to KS: Not all men want to be the Top CEO. If that is what you want then by all means go get it. In addition not all men need 100% of their woman at their "best" Sometime 80% of your woman js good enough! Sometime all a man needs is peace and a sandwhich on sunday with the boys watching football.
If a man wanted his woman at 100% then yes go out there and be a leader of men and she will "hopefully" be the woman of your dreams (probably not) but you did your job, right?
KS spoke to High Value Men in the top 10%. His message was not for average anything. Average, has to take average and get in where they fit in. But being average does NOT define you as a man and Receiving 80% of a woman is fine with most men.
I think 50/50 is the best way to go into relationships with kids or marriages with kids. The days of you as the men buying a house on your own, paying all the highly expensive bills, as schools, educations, medical bills 100% on the men is long due. This are the reasons for most relationships and marriages failures . One thing I've learned about women is that they don't respects things they don't have any investments or interests in at all. Guess what happens when she knows she have money in the house we bought, money in the savings for the medical bills and expenses, money in the children savings for schools, kinder garden, colleges , aka all the major expenses , she will think twice before she cheats, leave or messed up the relationship. She will find herself in the same dilemmas men have been into for decades..
I agree 100%, they only invest into things they care about so do put them to work.
@@jerimiahjackson4235 Facts, in 2023 getting in long term relationships with broke azz women, women who never had really jobs or can't keep a job, women with debts , bad credits, zero savings or zero discipline when it comes to savings, managing money , investing properly is not an option anymore. The times of saving broke women just because they looks goods or the sex is good is well over and dead...They wants to have standards we will show them what real standards look like..
My mother and father both work for the majority of my life. When I was really young my mother didn't. But when I got older she got a job and at one point ended up making more than my father for a short period of time.
He eventually surpassed her again but if they didn't both go hard we would not have been upper middle class. I could understand Wanting to be able to provide for your family where the woman stays home 100% but two heads are better than one. I can't see myself being with a woman that doesn't want to put something in the pot, especially if she's capable.
That lets me know you're lazy. And if you're staying home, you better be doing something amazing that I've never thought of. If not, you can go out there too. I mean what was the purpose of going to college? Just for me to pay off your student loans😂
Finally someone said it! lol. Dishes and laundry no longer is done by hand. You don't even need a broom anymore. Cooking is way easier with crock pots, air fryers, rice cookers etc. It should not take hours to keep a house in order. These things can be done 2 hours before your husband gets home lol (Even less to be honest).
I hate to break it to ya but your traditional cat seems just as emotional and seems to think he knows what another man’s woman is thinking or feeling. So-called traditional men don’t realize that while they chasing money their women get lonely and men that go 50/50 do get respect and don’t want the gimme gimme girls. We leave the soft life girls to you P Diddy types.
You really believe a woman can’t love you unless you pay 💯 of the bills. That sounds very toxic.
If I wasn't there, she'd be working anyway. Us working together allows us to have more and not have to work his hard. I support you brother but I respectfully disagree!
Yes exactly, even then there is too much of a wealth gap for only 1 party to be working.
I'm siding with the traditional man. I actually think he was being as delicate as he could be in this dialogue. There was some tough love mixed in there, but that's just how men tend to communicate. The traditional man was essentially saying that men have always been held to a higher standard, so more will be expected of us, but on the flipside, men will also gain greater levels of privilege once we rise to the occasion.
I'll go further and add that the standard of manhood is specific for every social group, however, the higher the standard, the more competitive those group of men will become because they are willing to put in more work in the process compared to groups of men who adhere to a lower standard of masculinity. That's how the world always worked. The strong conquer the weak and keep all of the benefits.
You need two incomes in this world some of these folks i think are lying.
They should next time have three men on the panel. A poor man, $20k - $30k a average earning man making $45k-$50k or 60$K and a rich man who make a $100k or over. Let’s see how all the perspectives clash together. Especially the contrast between the poor or broke and rich wealthy man. And how the average earning man can bridge those two differences together and bring a more interesting perspective we might not have imagined before. I would love to see that debate.
17:01 with all respect brother you did exactly what your talking about with Chantelle Simon when you both talked. You did not attack her argument you attacked her character and reasoning for her argument then got emotional and started taking digs on behalf of Courtney putting that battery in your back
Dam
HISPANICS DON’T HAVE THIS ISSUE
Because they all worked together
The economics of the day just doesn't allow most men to pay 100%.
The most important decision a man will make is his purpose, the next most important decision will be who he chooses to bear his Legacy. The reality is, like you've said, many guys in the current day are more in it for the feel and enjoyment more than they are for becoming a pillar for his Legacy to reference and trailblazers to ensure that everyone that follows gets further along than they did. I want my kids fighting a different battle in the same war of life, they shouldn't come in fighting the same battle I came in fighting.
This paying bills conversation is stupid and basic. It’s doesn’t matter who is paying the bills. How much are y’all putting in 401k, IRA, and 529s. I know multiple people who’s parents bought them houses while they were in college, paid thousands of dollars so they could compete in fencing, who graduated college with no debt, who’s parents built tennis courts in their backyard for them, who got to go to their parents lake house on vacations, who been traveling to other countries since they were young. Instead of nickel and diming about the bills, yall need to think about the long game, and the life your building for your children. If that means the man and woman are going 50/50 to achieve these things, so be it.
I'm thankful that you did this bro! Wow! I was speaking to my female friend about how I hate the car I bought last year so much that I'm chaotically trying to flip out into something else. That I'm so at peace in most areas in my life that I'm doing this because I'm so used to something being wrong. DAMN! I needed to hear this.
I’ve experienced both side of the coin and now enjoying fruit of my hard-work and planning. My wife hasn’t worked in almost 14 years. But she’s been working as wife for 14 years.
This one really hit home for me, as I didn’t grow up having a father’s presence in the home. As I hear the rich man speak his wisdom and you, Alan, give your commentary, the song “Teachme” from Musiq Soulchild comes to mind, where he sings at the start:
“I was told the true definition of a man was to never cry
Work 'til you tired (yeah), got to provide (yeah)
Always be the rock for my fam, protect them by all means
And give you the things that you need, baby”
As always, you do excellent work brother.
I was reluctant to listen to this video because I was going to get pissed at the rich guy. But this is a real reality check. Thanks for uploading brother.
Its more to being a man than just providing financially. Its about proving guidance, structure, discipline, emotional intelligence, to be reliable, to be accountable, to be confident, to have integrity etc. As black men its important for us to spend time in the household teaching and instilling these traits and habits into our kids especially black boys because if you dont they'll grow up with these bad habits thinking being rich is enough
I see both sides of their arguments, its IMPOSSIBLE for every man to be a high earner. I make waaaay more than the average man (sole provider) and its still a struggle at times financially.
So if she pay the light bill I'm not a man....got it
😂🤣😂🤣
This why I don’t even continue a conversation with a man that believes in a 50/50 man and he so disrespectful to be in his house to argue is crazy he’s disgusting to me
Don’t let someone’s imperfections blind you to the point you can’t see the truth and love they are trying to convey.
If that man's household is in tact, mind your business. Also, if Yada really wants to help, offer that man an opportunity, don't just be talking. If the dynamic you have in your house works for your family, do you.
If she a virgin, pay for everything. Else.. don't. Problem solved.
Ummm....no.
There has never been a day when most American women not above the middle class didn't work outside the home...Black...white or other. Their respect for the husband/father was NEVER predicated on his income alone. Rather...that he was a stand up man...who brought protection, structure, order and discipline into the home for her and their children. It was part and parcel of the culture and cultural teachings of the time.
This changed...with feminism, welfare and the culture both engendered. Perhaps it was different in Lagos...
This conversation is moot because it doesn’t take women into account. Women want to work, get the bag, and be Boss B’s. They don’t want to just be in a supporting role helping you achieve your goals. They want to be the main character achieving the goals. Most women dream scenario is a power couple situation. Which is a 50-50 relationship. The problem is that scenario is unrealistic and very unlikely to come to fruition.
I wonder if the men in the Mexican community feel this way they work out in front of Home Depot. They wise sell fresh, squeeze orange juice, and they still get the upmost respect.
Also the link to the dr Wilson vid as well thanks
I think it’s bad habit to just strip a guys manhood away based on what he makes. Rich guy draws reference to owning a business where you pay employees $15 a hour. Let’s say he’s paying his employees 25 an hour, which still isn’t enough to support a full family, that means EACH employee isn’t a man? Foolishness
So I guess it’s true what they say, that a man truly dies when he is forgotten.
You gonna get this work! 😤 8:45
A man's legacy is everything. You do everything in service to it
As an engineer thats been in leadership for 20 plus years whi h comes with an above average income i can say the rich guy is out of touch with modern women. I did what traditional men do while my 1st modern wife worked against me. So convincing men to work hard for women that are working against them is a bad deal.
Plus, we need to stop arguing extremes. My ex was a teacher. I paid 65-75% of the bills. When she was off during the summer i got to see that she was never foing to be a trafitional woman so i kept her working.
Now what you dont get because you haven't gottne there yet but while you're working hard and providing the women are penalizing you for not being there. Shes transferring those dame thoughts to the kids. So they don't respect or remember the work. They only remember you weren't there. Thats why Kevin said these women can't support a HVM.
Dam this a Engineer talking
A man & a woman should be going 50/50 until they are married &/or have kids. Then the man picks up the tab completely while the woman takes on household stuff. Fair trade if both parties are putting their best foot forward in their respective roles
Obi, the question is how would you have talked to “the poor man”? Would you have used the words “you’re not a man”?
Problem is once you start making money and once you reach your path... Then it's like... Do I really need to settle down with a woman? I've been by myself all these years.. Why stop now? 😆
This is a thumbs down Obi.
This was like watching two women argue about what a man really is. All of it was financial, nothing about character.
Somebody guide me in the direction of the full video I want to see it
The 50/50 man made a great point how is he supposed to enjoy or even guide his family if he is not actually there? We are definitely at a precipice, the way we live and what we believe is changing quickly. The belief that financial profit is paramount over human life/experience is becoming a bigger wedge that will divide society for years to come.
I understand what the rich guy saying, but I feel like you can still be a 50/50 guy and still be a man who walks in his purpose. This 50-50 guys is just a bad example. He was very emotional, mad cringy.
WOW, we got some work to do, brothers.
I hope more black men see this content.
Good analysis. I can see where I used to be in the 50/50 man emotionally unhinged. I am not the man I want be yet but aspiring to get to that 100% I am now paying all the major bills in my household and the difference is clear in my current marriage. In my previous marriage, I stopped being the main provider, and I looked back on that relationship, and I can see now where she stopped respecting me. More men need to understand that men aren't born they are made. Shaped and molded through adversity. Great work Obi godspeed.
Until you’re paying the at 100%, you’re just a male. Step it up
A man is an adult human male. Anything else a man chooses to add to that is up to the individual man.
Yall remember this is the internet…we are still listening to people who sit behind a camera and we taking advice from them..comical..yall live yall life and be happy whatever that consists of
No other race talks about this more than us!!! Bottom line the argument of 50/50 doesn’t work because it not aligned with the reality we are facing. Should men more? Yes we should. But the idea that a man should pay for everything is sort of insane. This the first time I’ve actually disagreed with Obi. Some one said it here and I agree, that older “rich”
Man wasn’t trying to pass down wisdom, he goal was to try and make that man feel like shit. People say that was emotional, but I saw a man defending himself, nobody in this world is gonna tell him how to feel. The sad thing is all these conversations do is keep single black people longer, which make us not grow as a population, to eventually die off altogether.
I don’t call dude emotional. That man told him his wife doesn’t love him and he isn’t a man until he pays 100% of the bills. Theres no way a man will listen to you after you’ve verbally disrespected him like that. Saying he’s emotional is a social media terminology that this generation does to gloss over the disrespect
I can't believe he missed all of the gaslighting the rich guy was doing. He's implying that he's NOT a man because he goes "50/50". Then, straight up denying that he's saying what he's clearly saying every time he's called him out on it. Unbelievable. A "man" owns what he says. Rich dude didn't own his bullshit. Also, how 🤔 do you ignore the fact that "50/50" is what women asked for, even fought for. The very definition of equality. Lastly, these women here typically aren't worth 100%. The social contract that said men pay 100% also says that women should be feminine, submissive, and childless. That's not available here. None of this is rocket science. This is why passport bros. exists. A man can go get an actual wife and not Pookies leftovers and out of wedlock kids. She can stay home, and he can leverage the strength of the dollar to pay all of the bills. Sorry, but a lot was missed in this video. A whole lot.
I don't think nothing is wrong with either one of these men but it largely depends on the woman/ partners they seek. You are partly what you attract and a relationship is the combination of both yourself and partner.
Been listening since the beginning, but you lose me that a mans focus should be his "legacy". Enjoy this life while youre in it.
Hey sir can you please put the link to the miles Monroe vid here please and thanks
Because for men and women they have allowed materialistic things to define what these roles are/ mean.
Men define importance based on materialistic things/wealth, women define independence based on materialistic things/ wealth.
Its tricky. With inflation and how hard it is to make moves in the country currently, the expectation that you're not a man until you can carry a family of 3 or 4 on your back financially is misguided.
I do agree men should aspire for more, but i think that when you get into the numbers, its not possible for a majority of men to position themselves that way. Statically it's not possible. Its a good end goal, but not a realistic expectation
Did dad n granddad have the expectation to aspire to be more or were they great just as regular ppl?