The young lady who spoke of the dinner date situation may be entitled, but she's also benevolent. Doesn't even realize how much of a favor she did for him...😁
These women are trifling. I don't get why they believe themselves to be goddesses and we are still just men. Gtfoh g, what's in it for y'all is our pockets. How could she be that entitled. She's wild.
It's not an insult. It's a test to see if the man is a simp. If he is then the next step is to figure out how much further he can be manipulated financially. Smart men know to keep their wallet closed on the first few dates. Dinner dates are a thing of the past. Avoid women who insist upon dinner as a first date and entertain the Starbucks woman. More conversation can be had sipping than chewing. Period.
It's an insult because they realize they won't pass the test. They don't have anything really to talk about. Though what she needs to do was put on all the makeup in the costume and fake the funk and get you to heavily invest in dinner so you're chasing your wallet.
It's an insult to gold diggers. If you're a man and you're not doing coffee/smoothie/walk through the park dates on a first date, you're doing it wrong. If a woman turns her nose up at a coffee date then you know she's not the one for you and you just saved yourself a big headache. If you led with your wallet when you first meet a woman she's going to treat you like a trick/ATM. A woman who really likes you, doesn't care where you take her, she just wants to spend time with you.
I'm a British born Nigerian, who grew up in Nigeria and is now living in the UK. When I met my wife she was fit, friendly, feminine and a virgin. I said to myself "Now that's the kind of woman I'm prepared to go to the ends of the earth for" That was 28 years ago! My lovely wife as raised our four children being at home full time. And even after 28 years of marriage she's still fit, friendly and feminine! BM do not settle for these promiscuous BW. If you have to become a Passport Bro to find a wife, so be it. The honour of the marriage covenant should only be bestowed on women who are worthy, most BW are not!
I couldn't have said it better. American men, especially black American men, are conditioned to accept whatever a woman gives us. Virgin? You're lucky to get a woman with no kids. You married your wife 28 years ago. The chances of a man finding what you have in the western world is slim to none. Traveling abroad is the only solution I can come up with.
Coming from the most incarcerated group of men, this statement is hilarious, as if you are a group of men that are worthy of proving anything of you don’t own anything collectively you have no armies you have no economic power. Do you have no brain power or no say in Africa in the Caribbean in any of the countries where there is blackmail leadership exactly what do you do and what do you call contribute to the economy? We can really have this argument if you want to, but as a collective group of men, I’m sorry but you don’t rank at the top neither do black women but there are certain categories where we suppose you
Your point is fully understandable. I think to say "most black women are not is maybe too strong." I would say most modern western women aren't. This is not ethnicity/ geno-type specific. It is cultural.
Ebony needs to realize that the type of man that she desires to be with, WILL NOT tolerate the arrogance that she spews. We work our entire lives to create an environment that is subject to our authority just to be with an old, swole face, difficult broad? I think not. Too many women have proven to men that they are innately chaotic, so it serves a structured man well to set expectations from his woman that compliments his personality. If it's too much pressure for her, let her be the next man's problem.
I think she knows that now. I saw her breakfast club interview and she knew that the men she wants wants the woman to submit and follow his lead. She hinted this by explaining to other girl that the man may randomly ask her to pack her bags and go away for 2 weeks. She implied that her other jobs and obligations took precedence over what this man had planned (which were deal breakers). I think she knows how these guys move but, she's still want the unicorn (wealthy simp) to let her lead.
Fellas just keep letting these dummies exposé themselves and how illogical they are Because she spends tons of money on makeup she’s justified in asking for a expensive meal off top Unreal
"If you dont wanna attract players, stop making your affection a game. If you don't wanna be treated like a whxre, stop putting a price tag on your time."
In my opinion Eboni K has changed her tune because she has recently spent well over $50,000 to retrieve and freeze her eggs. She has also had to give herself shots in the stomach to increase egg viability and retrieval success. The process of trying to get pregnant alone may have caused her to rethink her positions. The fact that she was married in her early 20s but divorced her husband before they had children may also weighs on her. She realized that the path she is on is expensive, lonely and physically taxing. However she came about her change of mind, I am glad that she has changed it and thus, decided to put out more realistic and fruitful advice to young women who are not yet in her unfortunate position.
Yeah that path of the single mother via in vitro like carmay said is expensive and takes a physical toll. That was a side that she didn't break down for those women who felt like her old stance on doing it alone. And it's likely that women who aren't in her financial status can afford without taking out pricey loans. Had that whole stance without explanation, context and nuance. Carmay thanks for sharing that.
@Truestratusx She has been doing interviews to explain her new take on marriage and her path to achieve motherhood. In them she gives far more information about her personal situation. Her followers would do well to watch her follow up interviews instead of making reactionary videos and comments about how wrong she now is. 🤦🏽♀️
@@carmay3600 yes I am aware. It was brought to my attention very recently. Glad she's actually telling the reality of that path of her followers wanna go down that road. And I'm glad Obi touched on it.
She didn’t change her tune. She still has the same opinions. What she’s saying not about the best time to find a husband isn’t at conflict with her not wanting to date a good man that’s a bus driver. This isn’t an “awakening” for her, this is her saying out loud what she’s always felt. She did get married earlier. It is what it is.
I stopped doing dinner as first dates and have since started doing Boba Tea first dates. Funny enough I got the idea from a women who catfished me pretty badly. She didnt want to go to the restaurant I suggested because she was dressed inappropriately. Ever since then that has been my go to. Exactly to avoid women like this. I respect this brother for not falling for the trap.
I have held to my "3 conversation rule" prior to a coffee date since college. You'd be amazed how many can't even make it thru 3 phone conversations without me uncovering red flags, deal breakers, or losing interest. Shes right, I need to see how you present yourself in-person and make sure that the pictures you may have shared accurately reflect how you look. If you cant be interesting over that $8 cup of coffee, there's no need to waste time and money on an expensive dinner...
I just started this and I didn’t even know. I realized many women want to date and waste your time and money while you are trying to see if you want them.
Broo I just stop going on dates all together before my now girlfriend. She proved she enjoyed my company, our conversations, and just my time without trying to arm muscle me into these modern dating standards!… we a WHOLE year never took her out to any restaurant🤷🏾♂️ and she just never concerned about that. Now? I tell her to pick and choose where she want to go cause she deserve it❤
That girl in blue knows what she's about, nothing wrong there. I wish every woman had a pre-audition video like this, it would make our lives alot easier!
I actually respect his comment, because at least you are aware she is not the type of woman you want. I like the man who still believe they have an opportunity to change her mind and conquer be gradually go on a date with this type of woman knowing damn well, she is an opportunist.. It doesn’t make any sense why men keep pursuing these types of women. If you know she does not have the mindset you want. It’s like you are vengefully trying to prove a point to younger self . A lot of you need therapy. I do need to let go of your heard from your 1415 and 16-year-old self and let go of the young black girl who rejected you it’s pathetic. You work so hard, make all this money only for you to set up a date with a woman who you know would not look twice if this was 10 years prior just approve some sort of pathetic point to your week, ego and low self-esteem . Man up and deal with women who like you for you that’s the best way to handle this situation rather than whining and complaining about women who you know damn well are not going to change
@@percyastronautstatus.8780It doesn't have to stop being fun. Hell, Id even give her a try for the hell of it, but at least I know she's recreational use only .
Spending $100- $300 on someone who you just met just for dinner is wild especially in this economy. Shit seems like its getting more fubar every year. Also acting your wage is crucial nowadays.
See they understand they're not of much value so the trick is to get you to invest heavily up front so you don't see the reach around. If you invest heavily up front you will be chasing your dollar. She understands if she goes for coffee and you're not manipulated by all of the nonsense she's not going to pass the test that's why she doesn't want to do it She could just go to coffee and enjoy company and get to know someone new but the whole goal was not to actually get to know you it's to find out a way to manipulate you
Hell it's absurd in any economy. I'm not spending that much on any chick i just met. For the same reason I don't buy drinks for random women in the bar who ask for one. No. I'm not getting used for free shit. Call me cheap. I'll be cheap and not be a simp.
Kevin message was heard by men world WIDE! The fact that we're still talking about him today,proves that! He change the dynamics in the red pill space. Giving young men hope for the first time in their lives with harsh, honest truth! That's what we need in this space not PC conversations with delusional females.
The audacity is simply mind blowing. Women's main problem is that when it comes to relationships they think they derserve everything on the front end and disregard the potential backend. If you think about it, this woman is potentially throwing away a whole life and legacy for a 200 dollar date. Women are willing participants at losing, and i have zero empathy. Everytime i hear an older woman talking about how she cant find a husband, i automatically think she thought like this woman does when she was younger.
I don't agree with the lady explaining her 'Coffee Date' rationale. I'm retired with two adult children, but my generation did the coffee dates vs dinner dates too. I understand completely why a man - or a women - would want to see & talk to a first date in person to determine the level of attraction, chemistry, and even deception. I've seen videos of women scheming for free dinners at fine restaurants, and don't like it. Makes me think they're materialistic and trying to snag a guy with a big bank account to blow on her, OR, they're eating Ramen noodles every day and can't cook. And that lady is trying to make the cost of her makeup sound like a reasonable reason for expecting dinner. She's not auditioning for a modeling or acting job. Show up for coffee dressed casually in jeans and a nice top, with minimal makeup and your hair combed. That's the real you. A person's appearance is just an introduction, how it turns out after that is determined by their personality. Frankly, if my son (in his 30s) showed me this video of her or someone like her and asked what I thought, I'd give a thumbs down. Basically, IMO, first dates should be casual to see if there's a genuine spark for a friendship along with some chemistry.
Good video breakdown brother. We see it all the time. They create transactional situations for their own best interests only. Why should I have to pay for things you should be doing as an adult anyway? Also, most men prefer a woman with no make up anyway who naturally has a good complexion. Continue to know your worth fellas. Hold the line! 💪🏽✊🏽💯🔥🔥🔥
Another one. Keep on bringing the dope ish. Seriously. Gotta look towards building and not destroying. And importantly giving context to the nuance and grey areas of things. And the clip of the woman at the end. Damn. Damn good. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Great work as usual no bashing or minimizing of women or men. Just straight talk. Getting to the point instead of sugar coating things minus the negative intent. Appreciate
You can make a game out of high maintenance woman in the blue disintegrating her own argument. She doesn't like the auditioning part, but she's already done that through the talking phase. She did a multipurpose obliteration of her argument when she revealed how enthusiastic she is about him being a pharmacist. -That's part of the auditioning. -That's already showing his worth. -Her mindset about how much her makeup cost and how that should in some way be reciprocated in what he spends, not only in the sense of that being owed to her, but the cost of that makeup pales to the point of disappearing to the cost of the schooling he had to go through to become a pharmacist. -She's not willing to try dating or meeting up without the makeup, so that makes his wanting to do the non dinner meet up even more sensible because she's hinting at not having anything else going for her. Which is what the man is trying to see if she has anything else going for her. And you can keep going with how many things you can find.
You forget to factor in the security he would be providing for her while they're on the date. Cause I'm sure if someone tries to attack her, he would have to be the one to save her. Since these women are all about transactions, us men need to recognize everything we bring to a date/relationship. Don't offer free services!!!!!!
I hope you teach your child not to hold onto resentment and bitterness. 15:02 is we have a conversation ends for me because the argument has absolutely no legs. At what point are men going to stop begrudgingly going on dates with women who they are know opportunist. 😂 why would you allow yourself to engage and go on a date with a woman who you fully know will not look twice a year 10 years prior. It’s like you are addicted to pain and suffering and a lot of you bask yourself in misery. Rather than moving on with your life and solely focusing on women who want you, you work hard just to make money only to stunt on women who are opportunist. It’s pathetic and childish. And the very reason why a lot of women are choosing single motherhood, singleness and a life without men. A lot of my single friends are not running into men who are mentally sound. They are running into men who are incredibly lonely, miserable and bitter and are holding onto resentment from rejection experience 10 years ago rather than seeking therapy and letting it go. Because, unfortunately, these are the types of man who grow up to be adults and lose their minds when it comes to rejection. I don’t know if you’ve seen the news recently, but a 15 year-old black girl was unalived by a BLACK BOY who got upset because her friend (his ex-girlfriend) rejected his flowers. And if you are going to justify this type of behaviour, you are sick and this situation is exactly what I mean when I say most of these young boys and grown men are completely unhinged, because that was a premeditated act for him to carry around a weapon means he had full intention of harming her and a lot of these men go out looking for women who they know they cannot obtain only to get back at these women by physically harming them. Women are entitled to reject you in the same way that you are entitled to reject that 300 LB woman who has a wonderful personality, but you won’t work with her to encourage her to lose weight . If she doesn’t want you, she doesn’t want you period if her standards are too high move TF on and find a woman within your remit. But the issue is a lot of you are holding onto resentment and bitterness because you physically like the idea of that women but you know damn well that woman is not for you yet you still pursue birds. I have absolutely no sympathy for men
I always wonder who we will be at 70. Crazy how entitled and shortsighted we are these days. 70, old, decrepit, no kids, and alone will suck for many of us. Its cool when youre 28, but 50 is closer than what you think.
I once went on a first date with a guy I met on a dating app. He didn’t order much. I did. During our conversation he revealed that he was driving Uber, I forget what happened to his job. I excused myself to go to the restroom. I paid for our tab. I’m a reasonable person. But I also am not interested in going for coffee. If offered, I’d request gelato or something in a cute neighborhood. Coffee feels like a business meeting to me. I don’t think a lot of money needs to spent on a first date. I actually don’t like dinner on a first date, it’s too formal/stuffy.
He was actually a lot more measured in his responses than I would have been. If I suggested splitting the bill and she balked at that, I would have erased her number. The precedent we are setting is that your time is very valuable and my time is garbage. That Dynamic will not lead to a healthy relationship.
If you ask a woman out on a date you pay. Dutch is for friends so if you split the bill don't be surprised if you find yourself in the friend zone. When women date men they are not just getting to know you they are seeing if you have the wherewithal to protect and provide for them and maintain whatever their desired lifestyle is. So being cheap on a woman who likes nice things or plans of living high up on the food chain is a big red flag...We are all our own worst enemies...
@@r.walker7986 the reason women are putting YOU in the friend zone is because they don't respect you. Asking you to spend exorbitant amounts of money early on is a test. Big dates, large gifts, jewelry Etc... are for ladies with a proven track record.
I'm in my mid 40's. I'm ol fashioned when it comes to dating. And honestly, it doesn't matter. I've met women for many types of dates. Activity dates like bowling, Dinner, and yes dinner dates are pricey! And the coffee date. If they like you, they like you regardless of where you take them, or how much money you spend. Most women don't make a ruling based on how much money gets spent. They make a ruling based on you and what they see and hear. Inside and out.
Always remember that women make high standards for the men that they dont really like. The more attractive/impressive you are as a man, the less you will have to do for her.
Speaking of broke dating .. There's a dude in these TH-cam streets named Bigg Jah. He did a series of skits entitled "my roommate pays all the bills". The words "get their priorities together" immediately made me think of those skits. 😂
I honestly think that today everyone has to much access to things and we have become entitled to the best when we don’t really deserve or have not proven ourselves to be worthy of the finer things.. I hope in the future we can be humble without being humbled.. Peace
New challenge for black men. When we see other black men in public, we ask them if they've seen the latest video from WNTT. If the answer is no, FIRE ON EM IMMEDIATELY. We gone make this sure this channel grows. One way or another!
I've began to notice that most all the women who say they'd rather be single or rather go it alone don't have a choice anyway with where they are in their lives and their mentalities about love, relationships and men
5:50 She knows if she shows up on a date without "concealer" concealing her face, he won't want to see her again, and that's why she wants a dinner date upfront... lolol
My rules for dating: Date #1 is always a coffee ☕ date. Date #2 is a date below $100 ( she leaves the tip) Date #3 is really all up to her.....If their is no commitment/physical intimacy there doesn't get to be a date #4
The fact this women searched how much he would make in his field. (Double edge sword ). Now she pocket watching him and put him on a level. She doesn’t know where he’s at or finances are at. Is crazy ! This is the rhetoric that circling around the Internet gets more attention. While OBI dropping bars and gems each videos. We need to wake up or in this case. We Need To Talk! (more) Keep up the work brotha 🔥🔥🔥
It is not a bad thing to actually plan your life logically. if a woman knows what kind of life she wants to live, she also knows how much its gonna cost and if the man is not making enough and there is no hope of ever reaching that, they why waste her time? How dumb do yall want women to be?
5:57 As she refuses to let a man audition her, she’s auditioning him on whether or not he’s willing to pay for dinner. I always find it strange when women are so unaware that they are also dating us. It’s like in their mind, they’re a hapless passenger.
She's fine with being auditioned on her paygrade. Bottomline its a non starter if a woman does not think you are going to be able to provide for her to her liking so its best to just put your best foot forward cause they are not trying to put money down on Bo-bos. Sure its possible down the line a man might come up, but the reality is if you marry someone you have to be OK with them never doing that and staying exactly where they are so this is why women are queasy about dating men who are not already producing..
When I was dating, a coffee date or a walk in the park or near the water was always great for me. I was able to be more comfortable and there weren't so many distractions to take away from having a real conversation. I was able to decipher if this was an individual I would like to get to know further and there are no time limits on this type of date. Sometimes, these coffee dates ended up becoming dinner dates because the vibe was that good.
Modern dating is akin age old prostitution. As it stands, this is a bad investment. There's no tangible ROI when she's blindly entitled. I applied the logic of short-term investments vs. long-term ROI and I made out quite well. It may not work for all, but it IS an option.
The coffee date is a modern invention sprung from online dating. Back in the day, you might see a woman at a bar, approach her and offer to buy her drinks then see how the night went. THAT was the former equivalent of the modern coffee date: a low pressure, low commitment, inexpensive interaction to determine whether further interaction was desired. Women still dressed up back then just to attract a man, even if all she received tangibly was a few drinks. That woman who wanted to date the pharmacist has it all skewed. You don't dress up in exchange for food and drinks. You dress to entice a man to want to interact with you in the first place.
Ladies you should choose your future husband based on if the man would be a great father to your children and would he be able to take care of you. You have to analyze if you can build a family with him or not. The problem is that many women look at nonsensical things such as sex, fun, and finances.
Unreal the level of delusion. Men are there own worst enemies if they go along with this (so called ) demand of the young lady in blue. Men focus on building your worth and survey the landscape.
I meet up at a riverfront low end restaurant get a drink and split an appetizer. Then we walk and talk, stop pass the free wine tasting shop, sit down and talk. Plus my boy is the bartender, so I spend like $15. These are successful women, i am batting over 80% with the simplicity. 11/13 busted those cheeks open. Walking and talking is more valuable because women don't think my men have good communication skills. I qualify them, and I've realized less is more. Women are easy asf, you don't have to do all that fancy shit.
Yeah but you are not dating with intention, you are just trying to "bust cheeks open" and scoring yourself like a baseball player usinhg real human beings...so in the end you make it bad for all men, especially the serious ones actually looking for relationships with all of this game you are putting out there... You are the reason women are the way they are and why they dont do cheap dates...
@@r.walker7986 the point was, you don't have to spend money if you can spark someone's interest. Every first encounter is preliminary, to qualify you and to see if we vibe. We may not like each other so I would not spend real money until I know we gel. In all honesty most men can only focus, and give his full attention to a woman after he has sex with her. Women are not that interesting to men. Plus a man can only do what a woman allows, so these women want to give me the cat. Women changed the game with their behavior and idols. When I was growing up Phylicia Rashad was the gold standard, now women look up to Cardi B. When women get back to being the personification of sophistication and class maybe men will work harder. Speak up against the degenerate behavior of the rachets in the community ruining black women's image and men will act better
I agree with the lady let’s be honest it’s 2023 guys, you’re not gonna get the girl you want being cheap and basic just play the game to get what you want
WHEN DID DATING STOP BEING FUN ??????. She sent him a list of places to go with different price points ..imagine being MARRIED to her .IF A WOMAN TRULY TRULY like a man she will go WHEREVER u choose as long as it's SAFE ...
Plot twist...I think ole buddy that said he couldn't pay the bill was pulling a Denzel. He wanted to see if she would offer to help. After she left he paid the full bill and tipped 50%!
Bro I'ma keep it real with..there is no more middle ground..us men are not perfect we do a lot wrong but sho is more wrong and who needs the reach further across the table to come a deal its the women. Hands down
Women have been going on these "foodie 🍝 calls" since the beginning of time. These 2023 chicks are so bold that they'll not only ask you to take them to a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ restaurant on the 1st date they'll get you to buy a second meal to split between their baby daddy & 2 kids.
There was nothing wrong with the way Kevin Samuels went about it bro. Like you continually try to point out what he was doing wrong. He was just doing it differently. His message was gold. Leave the feelings as feelings. Nothing he did on his channel was unfortunate. Only thing unfortunate is that he passed.
I honestly will never understand why women are so pressed about coffee dates. My boyfriend and I ‘s first date was at a Colombian Café and the bill came out to 25 dollars. And that date is by FAR the best date I’ve ever been on. And fast forward almost 2 years later…. We are madly in love, living together and planning a future together. He has spoiled me and continues to spoil me in countless ways (coach bags even included, surprise trips etc… since a lot of women love to talk about materialistic things. Just wanted to give further context). This is by far, the first relationship I’ve been in where I feel like I am not wasting my time. Even through the tough times in our relationship. So ladies… go on that coffee date. You never know if you’ll be sitting across from the the man who will change your life and mind about love ❤
11:23 exactly, but this is what they want. What I found out is that men that care who are kind men or who nice men (there is a difference a kind man won't let you walk over him while a nice man would) isn't respected either way. These women want toxic aholes just look at most of these women's baby daddies 🤷🏿♂️.
I’d have to tell the fella that tried to explain his lack of funds at the table that if this situation ever happens again, step away from the table or group and negotiate elsewhere.
I've played like I had enough $$$ to pay for half of the tab, just to see how she would handle things, after she took care of the bill, heading for the door, I slipped the waiter a tip, waited until I got her home, because I wanted to be sure that she wasn't in her feelings. After taking her to her place, I gave her a envelope with a letter and 2× the amount of $$$, that she spent. 6 years later we got married. It's the characters personality from the ❤ that counts.
"Ebony K Samuels." 🤣🤣🤣
The young lady who spoke of the dinner date situation may be entitled, but she's also benevolent. Doesn't even realize how much of a favor she did for him...😁
Lol. She is a 🥜
These women are trifling. I don't get why they believe themselves to be goddesses and we are still just men. Gtfoh g, what's in it for y'all is our pockets. How could she be that entitled. She's wild.
That's the whole point of a asking for "coffee date", you weed out the gold diggers off the rip.
Him asking what places she has in mind is the equivalent to "what she brings to the table."
The voice in my head kept screaming, "Buy a Dog and die alone. Buy a Dog and die alone. Buy a Dog and die alone. Buy a Dog and die alone."
I can't believe *COFFEE DATES* are now an insult to modern women????
It's not an insult. It's a test to see if the man is a simp. If he is then the next step is to figure out how much further he can be manipulated financially. Smart men know to keep their wallet closed on the first few dates. Dinner dates are a thing of the past. Avoid women who insist upon dinner as a first date and entertain the Starbucks woman. More conversation can be had sipping than chewing. Period.
@@6time686
I hear ya!
It's an insult because they realize they won't pass the test. They don't have anything really to talk about. Though what she needs to do was put on all the makeup in the costume and fake the funk and get you to heavily invest in dinner so you're chasing your wallet.
@@silentlamont
True...
It's an insult to gold diggers. If you're a man and you're not doing coffee/smoothie/walk through the park dates on a first date, you're doing it wrong. If a woman turns her nose up at a coffee date then you know she's not the one for you and you just saved yourself a big headache. If you led with your wallet when you first meet a woman she's going to treat you like a trick/ATM. A woman who really likes you, doesn't care where you take her, she just wants to spend time with you.
I'm a British born Nigerian, who grew up in Nigeria and is now living in the UK. When I met my wife she was fit, friendly, feminine and a virgin. I said to myself "Now that's the kind of woman I'm prepared to go to the ends of the earth for" That was 28 years ago! My lovely wife as raised our four children being at home full time. And even after 28 years of marriage she's still fit, friendly and feminine! BM do not settle for these promiscuous BW. If you have to become a Passport Bro to find a wife, so be it. The honour of the marriage covenant should only be bestowed on women who are worthy, most BW are not!
I couldn't have said it better. American men, especially black American men, are conditioned to accept whatever a woman gives us. Virgin? You're lucky to get a woman with no kids. You married your wife 28 years ago. The chances of a man finding what you have in the western world is slim to none.
Traveling abroad is the only solution I can come up with.
Coming from the most incarcerated group of men, this statement is hilarious, as if you are a group of men that are worthy of proving anything of you don’t own anything collectively you have no armies you have no economic power. Do you have no brain power or no say in Africa in the Caribbean in any of the countries where there is blackmail leadership exactly what do you do and what do you call contribute to the economy?
We can really have this argument if you want to, but as a collective group of men, I’m sorry but you don’t rank at the top neither do black women but there are certain categories where we suppose you
Agreed
❤️❤️❤️ wishing you peace!
Your point is fully understandable. I think to say "most black women are not is maybe too strong." I would say most modern western women aren't. This is not ethnicity/ geno-type specific. It is cultural.
Next level ENTITLEMENT 😂😂😂😂
A date A MAN ASKED THEM FOR is not entitlement
For a coffee meet-up, a fresh face out the shower is perfect.
🔥THIS🔥
Facts you don't need all the make up honestly on all the dates
Ebony needs to realize that the type of man that she desires to be with, WILL NOT tolerate the arrogance that she spews. We work our entire lives to create an environment that is subject to our authority just to be with an old, swole face, difficult broad? I think not. Too many women have proven to men that they are innately chaotic, so it serves a structured man well to set expectations from his woman that compliments his personality. If it's too much pressure for her, let her be the next man's problem.
yessir
I think she knows that now. I saw her breakfast club interview and she knew that the men she wants wants the woman to submit and follow his lead. She hinted this by explaining to other girl that the man may randomly ask her to pack her bags and go away for 2 weeks. She implied that her other jobs and obligations took precedence over what this man had planned (which were deal breakers). I think she knows how these guys move but, she's still want the unicorn (wealthy simp) to let her lead.
7:08 if you believe you’re in danger stay home.
Especially at her age. No one wants to deal with a headache
Fellas just keep letting these dummies exposé themselves and how illogical they are
Because she spends tons of money on makeup she’s justified in asking for a expensive meal off top
Unreal
"If you dont wanna attract players, stop making your affection a game.
If you don't wanna be treated like a whxre, stop putting a price tag on your time."
This video is one for the community. 🙏🏾🙌🏾
Indeed
In my opinion Eboni K has changed her tune because she has recently spent well over $50,000 to retrieve and freeze her eggs. She has also had to give herself shots in the stomach to increase egg viability and retrieval success. The process of trying to get pregnant alone may have caused her to rethink her positions. The fact that she was married in her early 20s but divorced her husband before they had children may also weighs on her.
She realized that the path she is on is expensive, lonely and physically taxing.
However she came about her change of mind, I am glad that she has changed it and thus, decided to put out more realistic and fruitful advice to young women who are not yet in her unfortunate position.
Excellent take🙌🏿🙌🏿
Yeah that path of the single mother via in vitro like carmay said is expensive and takes a physical toll. That was a side that she didn't break down for those women who felt like her old stance on doing it alone. And it's likely that women who aren't in her financial status can afford without taking out pricey loans. Had that whole stance without explanation, context and nuance. Carmay thanks for sharing that.
@Truestratusx She has been doing interviews to explain her new take on marriage and her path to achieve motherhood. In them she gives far more information about her personal situation. Her followers would do well to watch her follow up interviews instead of making reactionary videos and comments about how wrong she now is. 🤦🏽♀️
@@carmay3600 yes I am aware. It was brought to my attention very recently. Glad she's actually telling the reality of that path of her followers wanna go down that road. And I'm glad Obi touched on it.
She didn’t change her tune. She still has the same opinions. What she’s saying not about the best time to find a husband isn’t at conflict with her not wanting to date a good man that’s a bus driver. This isn’t an “awakening” for her, this is her saying out loud what she’s always felt. She did get married earlier. It is what it is.
I stopped doing dinner as first dates and have since started doing Boba Tea first dates. Funny enough I got the idea from a women who catfished me pretty badly. She didnt want to go to the restaurant I suggested because she was dressed inappropriately. Ever since then that has been my go to. Exactly to avoid women like this. I respect this brother for not falling for the trap.
I have held to my "3 conversation rule" prior to a coffee date since college.
You'd be amazed how many can't even make it thru 3 phone conversations without me uncovering red flags, deal breakers, or losing interest.
Shes right, I need to see how you present yourself in-person and make sure that the pictures you may have shared accurately reflect how you look.
If you cant be interesting over that $8 cup of coffee, there's no need to waste time and money on an expensive dinner...
I just started this and I didn’t even know. I realized many women want to date and waste your time and money while you are trying to see if you want them.
I'm a woman and I totally agree.
Broo I just stop going on dates all together before my now girlfriend. She proved she enjoyed my company, our conversations, and just my time without trying to arm muscle me into these modern dating standards!… we a WHOLE year never took her out to any restaurant🤷🏾♂️ and she just never concerned about that. Now? I tell her to pick and choose where she want to go cause she deserve it❤
That girl in blue knows what she's about, nothing wrong there. I wish every woman had a pre-audition video like this, it would make our lives alot easier!
I actually respect his comment, because at least you are aware she is not the type of woman you want. I like the man who still believe they have an opportunity to change her mind and conquer be gradually go on a date with this type of woman knowing damn well, she is an opportunist..
It doesn’t make any sense why men keep pursuing these types of women. If you know she does not have the mindset you want. It’s like you are vengefully trying to prove a point to younger self .
A lot of you need therapy. I do need to let go of your heard from your 1415 and 16-year-old self and let go of the young black girl who rejected you it’s pathetic.
You work so hard, make all this money only for you to set up a date with a woman who you know would not look twice if this was 10 years prior just approve some sort of pathetic point to your week, ego and low self-esteem .
Man up and deal with women who like you for you that’s the best way to handle this situation rather than whining and complaining about women who you know damn well are not going to change
Pre audition video ??.. WHEN DID DATING STOP BEING FUN ?.... A pre audition video?....REALLLY ???..
@@percyastronautstatus.8780It doesn't have to stop being fun. Hell, Id even give her a try for the hell of it, but at least I know she's recreational use only .
Spending $100- $300 on someone who you just met just for dinner is wild especially in this economy. Shit seems like its getting more fubar every year. Also acting your wage is crucial nowadays.
See they understand they're not of much value so the trick is to get you to invest heavily up front so you don't see the reach around.
If you invest heavily up front you will be chasing your dollar. She understands if she goes for coffee and you're not manipulated by all of the nonsense she's not going to pass the test that's why she doesn't want to do it
She could just go to coffee and enjoy company and get to know someone new but the whole goal was not to actually get to know you it's to find out a way to manipulate you
Backwards but normalized
Hell it's absurd in any economy. I'm not spending that much on any chick i just met. For the same reason I don't buy drinks for random women in the bar who ask for one. No. I'm not getting used for free shit. Call me cheap. I'll be cheap and not be a simp.
Kevin message was heard by men world WIDE! The fact that we're still talking about him today,proves that! He change the dynamics in the red pill space. Giving young men hope for the first time in their lives with harsh, honest truth! That's what we need in this space not PC conversations with delusional females.
Did the man ask for the face full of Nars makeup, nails etc?😂sighhhh
Kendra G was on some talk show with the Fox Soul ladies sounding much like Kevin Samuels. Those ladies were upset
The audacity is simply mind blowing.
Women's main problem is that when it comes to relationships they think they derserve everything on the front end and disregard the potential backend.
If you think about it, this woman is potentially throwing away a whole life and legacy for a 200 dollar date. Women are willing participants at losing, and i have zero empathy. Everytime i hear an older woman talking about how she cant find a husband, i automatically think she thought like this woman does when she was younger.
*it's the THUMBNAIL for me see. LMBO!!!* 👏🏽📌🤵🏽♀
Her saying how she's not willing to compromise, is why men like younger women
There are times when I have to pause the video to do a quick breathing exercise. This video was a test of my patience
The first red flag for this entitled woman is her counting a man’s pocket without even going out on a date with him.
Shes clearly broke too because she couldn’t even pay the bill either in order to avoid embarrassment
Had a helluva time to trying to explain the experience is more important than the venue. But, to no avail.
I actively encourage my son to date outside of the USA. This little girl is a goofy.
These last several videos have been raising some very interesting discussion in my corner of the world.
Thats the entire purpose of this channel ✊🏿
Love this! You're right on point with this , Brother. She lost me with the make-up story. Does she really consider herself a "baddie"? Haha
I don't agree with the lady explaining her 'Coffee Date' rationale. I'm retired with two adult children, but my generation did the coffee dates vs dinner dates too. I understand completely why a man - or a women - would want to see & talk to a first date in person to determine the level of attraction, chemistry, and even deception. I've seen videos of women scheming for free dinners at fine restaurants, and don't like it. Makes me think they're materialistic and trying to snag a guy with a big bank account to blow on her, OR, they're eating Ramen noodles every day and can't cook.
And that lady is trying to make the cost of her makeup sound like a reasonable reason for expecting dinner. She's not auditioning for a modeling or acting job. Show up for coffee dressed casually in jeans and a nice top, with minimal makeup and your hair combed. That's the real you. A person's appearance is just an introduction, how it turns out after that is determined by their personality. Frankly, if my son (in his 30s) showed me this video of her or someone like her and asked what I thought, I'd give a thumbs down. Basically, IMO, first dates should be casual to see if there's a genuine spark for a friendship along with some chemistry.
Good video breakdown brother. We see it all the time. They create transactional situations for their own best interests only. Why should I have to pay for things you should be doing as an adult anyway? Also, most men prefer a woman with no make up anyway who naturally has a good complexion. Continue to know your worth fellas. Hold the line! 💪🏽✊🏽💯🔥🔥🔥
Another one. Keep on bringing the dope ish. Seriously. Gotta look towards building and not destroying. And importantly giving context to the nuance and grey areas of things. And the clip of the woman at the end. Damn. Damn good. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Thanks again for a very insightful video Dr. Obi.
I missed out on so much of your content since the army and work dang. The videos still hit 💯
Welcome Back brother!
Great work as usual no bashing or minimizing of women or men. Just straight talk. Getting to the point instead of sugar coating things minus the negative intent. Appreciate
You can make a game out of high maintenance woman in the blue disintegrating her own argument.
She doesn't like the auditioning part, but she's already done that through the talking phase.
She did a multipurpose obliteration of her argument when she revealed how enthusiastic she is about him being a pharmacist.
-That's part of the auditioning.
-That's already showing his worth.
-Her mindset about how much her makeup cost and how that should in some way be reciprocated in what he spends, not only in the sense of that being owed to her, but the cost of that makeup pales to the point of disappearing to the cost of the schooling he had to go through to become a pharmacist.
-She's not willing to try dating or meeting up without the makeup, so that makes his wanting to do the non dinner meet up even more sensible because she's hinting at not having anything else going for her. Which is what the man is trying to see if she has anything else going for her.
And you can keep going with how many things you can find.
You forget to factor in the security he would be providing for her while they're on the date. Cause I'm sure if someone tries to attack her, he would have to be the one to save her. Since these women are all about transactions, us men need to recognize everything we bring to a date/relationship. Don't offer free services!!!!!!
If a rich ball player offers a coffee date, I bet she would go.
She would go in a heart beat
She would pay, just to seem like she's not a gold digger, hoping she will get it back on the backend
YOU ARE SPITTING SO MANY BARS, this is exactly as I feel as fellow P hahah that you the truth
British Nigerian brother here. Loving the content.
My respect for *Pharmacists* just went up 1000%.
I hope these videos are still available in 10 years for my child to watch when they are of age or ready for these conversations.
That's a great idea
I hope you teach your child not to hold onto resentment and bitterness. 15:02 is we have a conversation ends for me because the argument has absolutely no legs.
At what point are men going to stop begrudgingly going on dates with women who they are know opportunist.
😂 why would you allow yourself to engage and go on a date with a woman who you fully know will not look twice a year 10 years prior. It’s like you are addicted to pain and suffering and a lot of you bask yourself in misery. Rather than moving on with your life and solely focusing on women who want you, you work hard just to make money only to stunt on women who are opportunist. It’s pathetic and childish. And the very reason why a lot of women are choosing single motherhood, singleness and a life without men.
A lot of my single friends are not running into men who are mentally sound. They are running into men who are incredibly lonely, miserable and bitter and are holding onto resentment from rejection experience 10 years ago rather than seeking therapy and letting it go. Because, unfortunately, these are the types of man who grow up to be adults and lose their minds when it comes to rejection.
I don’t know if you’ve seen the news recently, but a 15 year-old black girl was unalived by a BLACK BOY who got upset because her friend (his ex-girlfriend) rejected his flowers.
And if you are going to justify this type of behaviour, you are sick and this situation is exactly what I mean when I say most of these young boys and grown men are completely unhinged, because that was a premeditated act for him to carry around a weapon means he had full intention of harming her and a lot of these men go out looking for women who they know they cannot obtain only to get back at these women by physically harming them.
Women are entitled to reject you in the same way that you are entitled to reject that 300 LB woman who has a wonderful personality, but you won’t work with her to encourage her to lose weight .
If she doesn’t want you, she doesn’t want you period if her standards are too high move TF on and find a woman within your remit. But the issue is a lot of you are holding onto resentment and bitterness because you physically like the idea of that women but you know damn well that woman is not for you yet you still pursue birds.
I have absolutely no sympathy for men
@@loulousworld92 you sound so happy. Lmfao
I always wonder who we will be at 70. Crazy how entitled and shortsighted we are these days. 70, old, decrepit, no kids, and alone will suck for many of us. Its cool when youre 28, but 50 is closer than what you think.
I once went on a first date with a guy I met on a dating app. He didn’t order much. I did. During our conversation he revealed that he was driving Uber, I forget what happened to his job. I excused myself to go to the restroom. I paid for our tab. I’m a reasonable person. But I also am not interested in going for coffee. If offered, I’d request gelato or something in a cute neighborhood. Coffee feels like a business meeting to me. I don’t think a lot of money needs to spent on a first date. I actually don’t like dinner on a first date, it’s too formal/stuffy.
This is absolutely reasonable 🙏🏿
@@wnttalkdon't buy it. Why go in the 1st then?
Yea, this is reasonable. The objective is to get to know each other in a neutral environment comfortable for both parties.
Brother I respect your intelligence and articulation 👊🏿
He was actually a lot more measured in his responses than I would have been. If I suggested splitting the bill and she balked at that, I would have erased her number. The precedent we are setting is that your time is very valuable and my time is garbage. That Dynamic will not lead to a healthy relationship.
If you ask a woman out on a date you pay. Dutch is for friends so if you split the bill don't be surprised if you find yourself in the friend zone. When women date men they are not just getting to know you they are seeing if you have the wherewithal to protect and provide for them and maintain whatever their desired lifestyle is. So being cheap on a woman who likes nice things or plans of living high up on the food chain is a big red flag...We are all our own worst enemies...
@@r.walker7986 the reason women are putting YOU in the friend zone is because they don't respect you. Asking you to spend exorbitant amounts of money early on is a test. Big dates, large gifts, jewelry Etc... are for ladies with a proven track record.
I'm in my mid 40's. I'm ol fashioned when it comes to dating. And honestly, it doesn't matter. I've met women for many types of dates. Activity dates like bowling, Dinner, and yes dinner dates are pricey! And the coffee date. If they like you, they like you regardless of where you take them, or how much money you spend. Most women don't make a ruling based on how much money gets spent. They make a ruling based on you and what they see and hear. Inside and out.
Always remember that women make high standards for the men that they dont really like. The more attractive/impressive you are as a man, the less you will have to do for her.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Speaking of broke dating ..
There's a dude in these TH-cam streets named Bigg Jah. He did a series of skits entitled "my roommate pays all the bills". The words "get their priorities together" immediately made me think of those skits. 😂
Jah is the homie, dude is funny AF 🤣
I honestly think that today everyone has to much access to things and we have become entitled to the best when we don’t really deserve or have not proven ourselves to be worthy of the finer things.. I hope in the future we can be humble without being humbled.. Peace
She'll be alone at 40🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh imagine thinking im entitled to tell you how and where to spend your money 😂😂 " you cant make this $hit up"
New challenge for black men. When we see other black men in public, we ask them if they've seen the latest video from WNTT. If the answer is no, FIRE ON EM IMMEDIATELY. We gone make this sure this channel grows. One way or another!
YO My Nigerian brothers are the blueprint for Future...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've began to notice that most all the women who say they'd rather be single or rather go it alone don't have a choice anyway with where they are in their lives and their mentalities about love, relationships and men
5:50 She knows if she shows up on a date without "concealer" concealing her face, he won't want to see her again, and that's why she wants a dinner date upfront... lolol
These Women Are Literally INSANE And Its Scary
My rules for dating:
Date #1 is always a coffee ☕ date.
Date #2 is a date below $100 ( she leaves the tip)
Date #3 is really all up to her.....If their is no commitment/physical intimacy there doesn't get to be a date #4
Must be dating in the hood.
Nah bro shouldn't have taken her to no expensive restaurant. Act ya wage my boi
That lady is not getting married but she'll find out in 10 years.
The fact this women searched how much he would make in his field. (Double edge sword ). Now she pocket watching him and put him on a level. She doesn’t know where he’s at or finances are at. Is crazy ! This is the rhetoric that circling around the Internet gets more attention. While OBI dropping bars and gems each videos. We need to wake up or in this case. We Need To Talk! (more)
Keep up the work brotha 🔥🔥🔥
It is not a bad thing to actually plan your life logically. if a woman knows what kind of life she wants to live, she also knows how much its gonna cost and if the man is not making enough and there is no hope of ever reaching that, they why waste her time? How dumb do yall want women to be?
Don’t get me wrong that why I said is double sword because men can take it both ways. That’s the point I was trying to make. My bad !
"my kids my kids my kids" ---that's a symptom of the problem right there.
5:57 As she refuses to let a man audition her, she’s auditioning him on whether or not he’s willing to pay for dinner. I always find it strange when women are so unaware that they are also dating us. It’s like in their mind, they’re a hapless passenger.
She's fine with being auditioned on her paygrade. Bottomline its a non starter if a woman does not think you are going to be able to provide for her to her liking so its best to just put your best foot forward cause they are not trying to put money down on Bo-bos. Sure its possible down the line a man might come up, but the reality is if you marry someone you have to be OK with them never doing that and staying exactly where they are so this is why women are queasy about dating men who are not already producing..
Older women see themselves as young attractive women 🔥🔥🔥
This chick is off the wall 👏
Whats the link for coffee date video.
on end screen
When I was dating, a coffee date or a walk in the park or near the water was always great for me. I was able to be more comfortable and there weren't so many distractions to take away from having a real conversation. I was able to decipher if this was an individual I would like to get to know further and there are no time limits on this type of date. Sometimes, these coffee dates ended up becoming dinner dates because the vibe was that good.
Shit is crazy at the point.
Someone owns a shop or talks on social media and talks about "business decisions" like she's running R&D on cutting edge pharmaceutical products.
Real content bro👍
We only trying to know each other coffee break is a good thing guys..Dinner come later hopefully
I prefer dinner because I like to get dressed up...........
Modern dating is akin age old prostitution. As it stands, this is a bad investment. There's no tangible ROI when she's blindly entitled. I applied the logic of short-term investments vs. long-term ROI and I made out quite well. It may not work for all, but it IS an option.
It's fornication....straight like that, no real end goal
Thanks for sharing this!
I find it more peaceful taking myself off the market for long term relationships.
I'm in the same boat bro
5:47 - 5:55 “I know man“ no she don’t. 😭😭😭
When they say go at it alone cause they feel they know what's right for the child and the man has absolutely no say
The woman in the blue outfit and what Allen said at 8:26 reminds me of that Justin Bieber song "Love Yourself."
The coffee date is a modern invention sprung from online dating. Back in the day, you might see a woman at a bar, approach her and offer to buy her drinks then see how the night went. THAT was the former equivalent of the modern coffee date: a low pressure, low commitment, inexpensive interaction to determine whether further interaction was desired. Women still dressed up back then just to attract a man, even if all she received tangibly was a few drinks. That woman who wanted to date the pharmacist has it all skewed. You don't dress up in exchange for food and drinks. You dress to entice a man to want to interact with you in the first place.
Ladies you should choose your future husband based on if the man would be a great father to your children and would he be able to take care of you. You have to analyze if you can build a family with him or not. The problem is that many women look at nonsensical things such as sex, fun, and finances.
Unreal the level of delusion. Men are there own worst enemies if they go along with this (so called ) demand of the young lady in blue.
Men focus on building your worth and survey the landscape.
Deep conditioning of overly pedestalizing....
I meet up at a riverfront low end restaurant get a drink and split an appetizer. Then we walk and talk, stop pass the free wine tasting shop, sit down and talk. Plus my boy is the bartender, so I spend like $15. These are successful women, i am batting over 80% with the simplicity. 11/13 busted those cheeks open. Walking and talking is more valuable because women don't think my men have good communication skills. I qualify them, and I've realized less is more. Women are easy asf, you don't have to do all that fancy shit.
Yeah but you are not dating with intention, you are just trying to "bust cheeks open" and scoring yourself like a baseball player usinhg real human beings...so in the end you make it bad for all men, especially the serious ones actually looking for relationships with all of this game you are putting out there... You are the reason women are the way they are and why they dont do cheap dates...
@@r.walker7986 the point was, you don't have to spend money if you can spark someone's interest. Every first encounter is preliminary, to qualify you and to see if we vibe. We may not like each other so I would not spend real money until I know we gel. In all honesty most men can only focus, and give his full attention to a woman after he has sex with her. Women are not that interesting to men. Plus a man can only do what a woman allows, so these women want to give me the cat. Women changed the game with their behavior and idols. When I was growing up Phylicia Rashad was the gold standard, now women look up to Cardi B. When women get back to being the personification of sophistication and class maybe men will work harder. Speak up against the degenerate behavior of the rachets in the community ruining black women's image and men will act better
No coffee date women get TOSSED. You failed the first test. 😂
No woman can eloquently explain why coffee dates are bad
I agree with the lady let’s be honest it’s 2023 guys, you’re not gonna get the girl you want being cheap and basic just play the game to get what you want
No lie tho, i think that all men here can collectively agree that the angry chick from that one interview you did was 100% grade A trash tho
WHEN DID DATING STOP BEING FUN ??????. She sent him a list of places to go with different price points ..imagine being MARRIED to her .IF A WOMAN TRULY TRULY like a man she will go WHEREVER u choose as long as it's SAFE ...
YO at 13 minutes. That dinner date. That is cringe worthy.
Plot twist...I think ole buddy that said he couldn't pay the bill was pulling a Denzel. He wanted to see if she would offer to help. After she left he paid the full bill and tipped 50%!
Black women are upset because they feel like they have been following false prophets and they cannot reverse time.
Wow!!?the mindset of these modern women ..
I'm a lil confused I thought woman don't get dressed for men. The young lady @ 6:26
Bro I'ma keep it real with..there is no more middle ground..us men are not perfect we do a lot wrong but sho is more wrong and who needs the reach further across the table to come a deal its the women. Hands down
Women have been going on these "foodie 🍝 calls" since the beginning of time. These 2023 chicks are so bold that they'll not only ask you to take them to a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ restaurant on the 1st date they'll get you to buy a second meal to split between their baby daddy & 2 kids.
Coffee date or block.
No argument there sir
We're trying to talk to you ladies.
You'll either heed the conversation from us or the consequences from our absence.
There was nothing wrong with the way Kevin Samuels went about it bro. Like you continually try to point out what he was doing wrong. He was just doing it differently. His message was gold. Leave the feelings as feelings. Nothing he did on his channel
was unfortunate. Only thing unfortunate is that he passed.
I honestly will never understand why women are so pressed about coffee dates. My boyfriend and I ‘s first date was at a Colombian Café and the bill came out to 25 dollars. And that date is by FAR the best date I’ve ever been on. And fast forward almost 2 years later…. We are madly in love, living together and planning a future together. He has spoiled me and continues to spoil me in countless ways (coach bags even included, surprise trips etc… since a lot of women love to talk about materialistic things. Just wanted to give further context). This is by far, the first relationship I’ve been in where I feel like I am not wasting my time. Even through the tough times in our relationship. So ladies… go on that coffee date. You never know if you’ll be sitting across from the the man who will change your life and mind about love ❤
11:23 exactly, but this is what they want. What I found out is that men that care who are kind men or who nice men (there is a difference a kind man won't let you walk over him while a nice man would) isn't respected either way.
These women want toxic aholes just look at most of these women's baby daddies 🤷🏿♂️.
So we have to pay to be loved 😐
Modern dating is transactional fornication
I’d have to tell the fella that tried to explain his lack of funds at the table that if this situation ever happens again, step away from the table or group and negotiate elsewhere.
I've played like I had enough $$$ to pay for half of the tab, just to see how she would handle things, after she took care of the bill, heading for the door, I slipped the waiter a tip, waited until I got her home, because I wanted to be sure that she wasn't in her feelings. After taking her to her place, I gave her a envelope with a letter and 2× the amount of $$$, that she spent. 6 years later we got married. It's the characters personality from the ❤ that counts.
The girl in the blue. B.A.D.D.A