Hori Fightpad > Razor Raion > Fusion A.... Razor's face buttons are extremely sensitive, the d-pad has a nice clicky feeling. IMO this makes it a lot less forgiving than the Hori. You really have to input your moves precisely. I felt that you can get away with more on the Hori. Razor will make you a more precise player - but you have to retrain, if you are a sloppy player (read: me), to execute the commands cleanly. I've always favored doing certain moves on specific sides (bad habit! I know) but with the Razor Raion, I felt I was able to do combos from either side - however, it took me a long time to clean up my inputs. BTW - me testing has been on SF5, Shoto style characters (no charging). So I don't know what to say about the whole deadzone thing for charge characters. If you are a very dedicated player - this Fightpad is worth it. If you are just a casual player the Hori will do just fine!!! You're pretty much paying $60-$70 more for a headphone jack, and touchpad. Fusion A was a hit or miss for me. Like I said, I favor one side for certain moves, it was flipped using this control. The d-pad felt a little too floaty. But if you liked that style D-pad from years ago and miss it, this will be up your alley. It has a headphone jack too but no touchpad.
I'm still using the Razor as my inputs are generally more precise. I didn't like the PowerA pad much. The face buttons were way too solid for fast inputs. I ended up giving it to my lil bro but i agree Madcatz or Hori for casuals and Razer for the more serious
Thank you for your kind words. I've been mainly using the Madcatz fightpad pro which i believe you were involved in the development and also the development of this pad aswell. The Raion in a sense feels like the successor i've been waiting for! Keep up the amazing work!
@@Zeus_Sama There is a 50% discount in my country. I am a student, so I would not be able to pay the full price anyway. The main reason of me checking reviews of this product was when I started playing Tekken a week ago and got a bit tilted at how inconsistent the downforward and downbackward inputs were with the original PS4 pad ( I checked my history input). In SF5 I can tolerate it, but not in Tekken, Tekken sometimes requires a timing that is way too strict.
@@realquiller if your looking for a pad for Tekken specifically then the Hori FC might be a better pad for it. I'd say this one feels better suited for SFV and MK11. But the crazy inputs like wavedashing and korean backdashing will be more efficient on the Hori FC
@@Zeus_Sama I originally wanted Hori, but it is no longer available in my country, so... With the discount on Razer, it is quite easy now what to choose.
I think is a big benefit to have wired connection and tournament mode in this controller ... the only bad thing I see here for me ... skill is sold separately LOL nice review !!! thanks for sharing!!!
Very good review, so glad I don't have to pay scalpers on eBay for hori fightpads that break in 6 months. Ordered my controller earlier this week and I can't wait to get my hands on it!
That wss my gripe with the Hori FC amd Madcatz. They both work well but they dont last. I'd rather pay a little bit extra for durability and build quality. This pad trumps them both in pretty much every way imo
Very nice review! Would be nice to see you testing the Powera Fusion Pad, too. I want to buy the Fusion or the Raion and I don‘t know which I should get
@@stephansotomayor9696 It's my first Razer purchase. Very happy with it so far. The micro switch buttons feel great. Super light like tiny Sanwa's mixed with Hori pro buttons. U can play claw or regular
They work quite well although im way out of practice on Tekken. Tried on my old fightpad and couldn't do the electrics consistently. It's nothing to do with the madcatz or razer pads its my own execution and being out of practice in tekken for like 8+ months
You should check out the vid i uploaded after this where i took it for a spin for matches. Worked really well for me. It takes some time to get used to because inputs need to be more accurate for this pad to work well for ppl. The hori and Madcatz pads are quite lenient with bad inputs. My inputs are generally quite clean anyway so this wasn't much of an issue for me
@@Zeus_Sama yea, I can agree with you on it takes time to get use to and you need to be precise with your presses but for someone who generally has a habit of holding down the dpad, it's just very hard to get out of that habit. I'll need to focus to actually do good with this controller and unfortunately I don't want to focus on the controller at all when bigger things are at stake, like the game. But to the people who are doing fine with it, more power to you, you manage to adjust to the controller very well, but just generally speaking, majority of fighting game player aren't use to something like this so adding a pivot would just be the icing on the cake. To me personally, it looks like it's trying to be a dpad fight stick.
I am having a little bit of problem super cancelling consistently using the Razer Raion. I had no such problem on the standard DS4. Do you mind showing your hands on how you perform super cancels? Thanks
Which specific super cancel are u having trouble with? I had to use my pad for like 5 or 6 days before the dpad is broken in and everything works perfects now
@@Zeus_Sama 2 in particular - both on the left handside. 1) Ryu DP into Super; 2) Urien Tackle into Super. I'll keep about that in mind (d-pad broken in) - I have only been using it for a day.
How does this do with 360s like zangief? Would you be able to try clockwise and counter clockwise? When I tried the Astro, i seemed to drop counter clockwise 360s more
@@FrozenFacade That should only be a problem if you constantly press the dpad in and never let go of it. Like if i dash im gna double tap f then input the spd. My spd wont be a part of the dash input
In training mode make the cpu attack you low and try defending. Also put inputs on to see what inputs are being registered on the controller when ur holding db
I’m thinking about getting this. I saw online that it rivals arcade sticks. Also will it work for ps3? because I play Ultra Street Fighter 4 and Street Fighter 3rd Strike
@@BigBoss-kn1yx Then u need to hitconfirm and input faster ie cmp into critical art i buffer cmp qcfx2 i only press the kick if i land the cmp. If i dont buffer then i do cmp, if it hits then i'll need to do qcfx2 kick very fast instead which is more hassel and gives u less time to react
Hori Fightpad > Razor Raion > Fusion A.... Razor's face buttons are extremely sensitive, the d-pad has a nice clicky feeling. IMO this makes it a lot less forgiving than the Hori. You really have to input your moves precisely. I felt that you can get away with more on the Hori. Razor will make you a more precise player - but you have to retrain, if you are a sloppy player (read: me), to execute the commands cleanly.
I've always favored doing certain moves on specific sides (bad habit! I know) but with the Razor Raion, I felt I was able to do combos from either side - however, it took me a long time to clean up my inputs.
BTW - me testing has been on SF5, Shoto style characters (no charging). So I don't know what to say about the whole deadzone thing for charge characters.
If you are a very dedicated player - this Fightpad is worth it. If you are just a casual player the Hori will do just fine!!! You're pretty much paying $60-$70 more for a headphone jack, and touchpad.
Fusion A was a hit or miss for me. Like I said, I favor one side for certain moves, it was flipped using this control. The d-pad felt a little too floaty. But if you liked that style D-pad from years ago and miss it, this will be up your alley. It has a headphone jack too but no touchpad.
I'm still using the Razor as my inputs are generally more precise. I didn't like the PowerA pad much. The face buttons were way too solid for fast inputs. I ended up giving it to my lil bro but i agree Madcatz or Hori for casuals and Razer for the more serious
Thanks for your review and feedback. I hope you continue to like the product and continue to grow with it!
Thank you for your kind words. I've been mainly using the Madcatz fightpad pro which i believe you were involved in the development and also the development of this pad aswell. The Raion in a sense feels like the successor i've been waiting for! Keep up the amazing work!
Okay, I am buying this. Thanks for showing not only Street Fighter but also Tekken
After long term use i'd recommend to pick this up if you can get it for £50 or less. It's not worth the £99.
@@Zeus_Sama There is a 50% discount in my country. I am a student, so I would not be able to pay the full price anyway. The main reason of me checking reviews of this product was when I started playing Tekken a week ago and got a bit tilted at how inconsistent the downforward and downbackward inputs were with the original PS4 pad ( I checked my history input). In SF5 I can tolerate it, but not in Tekken, Tekken sometimes requires a timing that is way too strict.
@@realquiller if your looking for a pad for Tekken specifically then the Hori FC might be a better pad for it. I'd say this one feels better suited for SFV and MK11. But the crazy inputs like wavedashing and korean backdashing will be more efficient on the Hori FC
@@Zeus_Sama I originally wanted Hori, but it is no longer available in my country, so... With the discount on Razer, it is quite easy now what to choose.
I think is a big benefit to have wired connection and tournament mode in this controller ... the only bad thing I see here for me ... skill is sold separately LOL
nice review !!! thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks man!
Im surely getting this. Thanks for the review and the first one in english ! Thanks man, keep up the great work.
Thank you fpr your kind words
4:30 to 5:00 i love how you still managed to sneak in a tutorial lool legend!!
You know me☻☻mans gotta educate lol
Very good review, so glad I don't have to pay scalpers on eBay for hori fightpads that break in 6 months. Ordered my controller earlier this week and I can't wait to get my hands on it!
That wss my gripe with the Hori FC amd Madcatz. They both work well but they dont last. I'd rather pay a little bit extra for durability and build quality. This pad trumps them both in pretty much every way imo
This seems like the combination of a Saturn and Neo Geo CD style pad. I'll give it a shot for sure.
This is like having an arcade stick right into the controller I have my eye on this
A few of my arcade stick user friends seemed to enjoy it
That's it. I'm sold.
I'm *_GETTING_* one...as soon as they're available here in the US.
Thanks for the review, man!
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Thank you for the review!! Very interessting 👍🏻
Loving this fightpad so far. No temptations of trying my previous ones either😎👌
Very nice review! Would be nice to see you testing the Powera Fusion Pad, too. I want to buy the Fusion or the Raion and I don‘t know which I should get
The perfect fightpad:
Razer Raion Version 2
- Add a pivot on the D-Pad
- Add turbo function
- Make L3 / R3 remapable
I like these ideas
I'm gonna save my money for the raion
this friday i got it, nice review ! Gonna gestroy in rookie with Gill for sure now :D
Man I want this so badly but it’s not available in the US yet ripppp
I cant wait till they come out in the US
I'm actually surprised it hasn 't released there yet. I thought US would be first in line with EU
@@stephansotomayor9696 It's my first Razer purchase. Very happy with it so far. The micro switch buttons feel great. Super light like tiny Sanwa's mixed with Hori pro buttons. U can play claw or regular
@@Zeus_Sama man that's awsome thank you for the video hit the hammer on the nail.
At least this has no analog sticks for Razer to get wrong like the did with the Raijus having terrible stick drift.
Misihma characters? Wavedash and backdash?
They work quite well although im way out of practice on Tekken. Tried on my old fightpad and couldn't do the electrics consistently. It's nothing to do with the madcatz or razer pads its my own execution and being out of practice in tekken for like 8+ months
Unfortunately it's a pretty bad controller, it takes time to get use to it but at that point just get a fightstick (we really need that pivot)
You should check out the vid i uploaded after this where i took it for a spin for matches. Worked really well for me. It takes some time to get used to because inputs need to be more accurate for this pad to work well for ppl. The hori and Madcatz pads are quite lenient with bad inputs. My inputs are generally quite clean anyway so this wasn't much of an issue for me
@@Zeus_Sama yea, I can agree with you on it takes time to get use to and you need to be precise with your presses but for someone who generally has a habit of holding down the dpad, it's just very hard to get out of that habit. I'll need to focus to actually do good with this controller and unfortunately I don't want to focus on the controller at all when bigger things are at stake, like the game. But to the people who are doing fine with it, more power to you, you manage to adjust to the controller very well, but just generally speaking, majority of fighting game player aren't use to something like this so adding a pivot would just be the icing on the cake. To me personally, it looks like it's trying to be a dpad fight stick.
@@Sasucat yeah true its a mechanical dpad with micro switches designed to imitate similar feedback as an arcade stick
I am having a little bit of problem super cancelling consistently using the Razer Raion. I had no such problem on the standard DS4. Do you mind showing your hands on how you perform super cancels? Thanks
Which specific super cancel are u having trouble with? I had to use my pad for like 5 or 6 days before the dpad is broken in and everything works perfects now
@@Zeus_Sama 2 in particular - both on the left handside. 1) Ryu DP into Super; 2) Urien Tackle into Super. I'll keep about that in mind (d-pad broken in) - I have only been using it for a day.
@@tensaiphd Yeah it takes a little while to break in
I’m so irked it’s not for sale in the USA
How does this do with 360s like zangief? Would you be able to try clockwise and counter clockwise? When I tried the Astro, i seemed to drop counter clockwise 360s more
It worked quite well. Messed around in trainjng mode then a few offline games
@@FrozenFacade That should only be a problem if you constantly press the dpad in and never let go of it. Like if i dash im gna double tap f then input the spd. My spd wont be a part of the dash input
After a while using this, I am still not getting the hang of down back to defend, I often get hit when I think im defending :(
In training mode make the cpu attack you low and try defending. Also put inputs on to see what inputs are being registered on the controller when ur holding db
can u slide the inputs on d-pad ? like wave-dash
Yeah but it takes a bit of practice. My wave dashes are less than great after being off the game for a long time🙄so it may just be me
Great controller, best d-pad! But the price is too high! I would buy it for $60. Is the a turbo button?
No turbo button but the buttons are super sensitive so hitting it is just as good
I’m thinking about getting this. I saw online that it rivals arcade sticks. Also will it work for ps3? because I play Ultra Street Fighter 4 and Street Fighter 3rd Strike
Unfortunately it doesnt work on ps3. Ps4 and pc only😔
Oh. Bummer...
Nice Video~ Razer fightpad is better than PS4 pad?
For fighting games yes
where can i get the dante no sword mod please
It should still be available on the deviant art site
Do you have to buffering?
Depends on the situation. I buffer if im trying to punish whiffed moves
@@Zeus_Sama if you dont?
@@BigBoss-kn1yx Then u need to hitconfirm and input faster ie cmp into critical art i buffer cmp qcfx2 i only press the kick if i land the cmp. If i dont buffer then i do cmp, if it hits then i'll need to do qcfx2 kick very fast instead which is more hassel and gives u less time to react
Actuly i have tried this pad on tekken7 back dash and wave dash are the worse in my opinion i dont recommand it at all stick is better
Xd this is crap