The reason I subbed your channel was because of your attitude of enjoying the experience without killing your budget. The focus IS the experience, rather than comparing how much cooler the other guy's camp is. I'm using my 40 year old hunting gear and having a blast! We're all under the same sky and stars...... Thank You!
Get out and go just have fun. You don't care what it looks like when you are out, with a big smile on your face rolling down a dirt road or climbing a crazy waterfall. Great video
Nice. Im running a 16 gallon water tank in my Discovery 2 with 2gpm RV water pump. Paired with a propane hot water heater.. Hot showers are nice at camp :). Running an ARB onboard compressor as well. Currently installing a house deep cycle battery, DC to DC charger, inverter and solar panel.
You hit the nail on the head, Have fun with what you have. I see all these people spending thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on shit they think they need when they dont.
@@DirtLifestyle do they make a mount or something that you can fill up without removing the jerry can from the carrier? i know they make pumps but I was thinking gravity feed?
Yes! You definitely don't need to have a crap ton of money. Hell I sleep in a hammock with a tarp over me. My Jeep is more built for crawling, and a hammock and tarp weigh practically nothing. Glad to see more awesome encouraging content man!!
That titan tank is pretty nice and lots of gas! Being a toyota guy we can go a long ways on the factory tank. It’s cool to see different options. Thanks
I love your resourcefulness! I too live in Washington (Kennewick) I work the oilfields in North Dakota.... actually I am driving flatbed till oil prices come back the I will drive tanker truck again! I have a Gladiator Sport max tow and am looking at putting lockers on first and I am wanting air! As a trucker I am a big fan of belt drive compressors but budget and my ability is too low lol my thoughts are to build my 4 wheel drive to its safest and strongest ability and add a wench . I am adopting 2 young children and I am in my 60s so is my wife so with family on board I want good reliable 4x4 locking system and the wench for backup! The lift kit and tires will be later... I want to get up in the hills and stock will get us as hard core as we want for now lol I am going to watch your overlanding builds and draw from that!
Got the same aux tank .. I used a couple of 4" sewer stops and about 6' of PVC pipe and made a water carrier out of it .. holds about 4 gals .. got it mounted to the roof rack and have a fill port and a regular water bib that I hook a 3' hose to!
I've done this exact thing, problem I have is the jug just bounces around in the back and leaks like crazy. Now that I have OBA I am going to put together some PVC pipe so I can have pressurized water.
I like that Titan tank. I have a 4 gallon RotoPax mounted on my spare tire rack but I like the 12 gallon capacity of what they sell. I may have to upgrade to one of those soon.
I'm a good mix of crawler/ overlander. 94 XJ on d 44's, 37's, 4 link, long arms, arb lockers. I have a Viair oba system mostly because of air lockers. My air back up is a Milwaukee 12v inflator with adaptors just in case I need it for lockers to get off the trail or to air up a little bit. (2) 4 cell batteries seems to be enough. Being a plumber does helps! My water system currently is 6 inch pvc about 32" long. 2+ gallons goes a long way if you conserve. An outlet on my air system has a regulator. About 8 psi to the pvc tube is plenty. To conserve water, I adapted a kitchen faucet sprayer. The type that is separate from the faucet. Flow is low but more than enough with air pressure. My pvc water tube is not hard mounted. When camped out, I move it so that it heats up from the sun. Painting it black can give you a warm shower after about 3 hours in the sun. Take your shower asap. Cools down quickly. Great for washing hands, cleaning trail dust off, and dishes too. I might do a exo cage roof tube. Might do a roof mounted tube one of these days.
Nice video Nate, really enjoying this channel lots of great tips etc One thing about CO2 is that although it is inert it can also kill you if used in a confined space etc. Good choice placing your tank outside the vehicle. Any ‘container or vessel can leak and In a closed/confined space without proper ventilation would be fatal. Caveats aside some great Info as always and looking forward to your ‘Overlander’ adventures with your family.
One thing I feel that is worth noting is that CO2 expands more than other gasses. If you use it in you tires, be aware that as it gets hot it will expand and your tire pressures will increase. If your tank gets to hot and your tank is full, it could pop the overpressure valve. High pressure air (HPA) or Nitrogen are better options for tires.
Thanks for the tip on that spare tire tank. Wish they made them in bright yellah for diesel tho. Been looking for a way to carry more go-juice for the beast. She's thirsty.
When it comes to mounting, if like me, you dont have a garage, I recommend planning in a solution to lock it all up. If people break windows because they think there might be something of monetary value inside, than they're certainly willing to cherry pick it right off the outside of your vehicle.
Thanks Nate, I'm going nuts just hanging around waiting to get released! Your videos are so good to watch, keep it rolling buddy. Back in the 90's and early 00's I was an avid UROC guy. I built a Jeepster Commando for off roading. I love to build off road vehicles
Loving the overlanding videos. I also am primarily a rock crawler but I have just recently picked up a 91 Comanche that I’m going to do an overland build with. Keep up the great videos!
Those zero gauge, fixed regulators work great. I have a full size 3/4 ton truck for over-landing and the e-rated tires run 50-65 psi on the pavement. The little 12v air compressors don't have the duty cycle to fill these tires in a timely fashion. I used a $60 fixed regulator and 20 lb. aluminium CO2 tank I got off e-bay for about $70 and I'm good to go!
Not sure about other manufacturers do it, but the Old Isuzus (Pups, Rodeos & Troopers) used the basic same frames under their 4X4 vehicles. Only they mount the different models gas tanks in different places. Filler neck locations are in different olaces too, but not hard to route a second filler hose from the OEM Filler neck. (Did this with an old 74 GMC short bed pickup once. One fill neck hit the saddle tanks on both sides. I run a 93 SAS Isuzu Rodeo with Marlin Crawlers and Full Floater rear axle. (Long List of mods) But I found that Isuzu Pickups fuel tanks (Pups) that mount to the frame between the driveshaft and frame will fit in the same place on the SUV's (Rodeos & Troopers) that have rear under mounted fuel tanks. The amazing part is one end the mounting bracket for the Isuzu Pickup tank is already there. (Other brands may have them under there too!) So, If you strip off the tanks mounting brackets when you snag the tanks at the salvage yard, you can easily add a 13 to 17 gallon saddle tank under your rig. Get a 9 port fuel transfer tank valve and you can even set it up so your gas gauge works with both tanks, depending on which one you're drawing from. I built a "Y" filler tube so that I fill both tanks from the one fuel neck. Just turn the nozzel one way to hit one tank and the other way for the other. LIke I said, I'm not sure if the Toyota Pickup ect and the 4 Runners ect use different tanks, but it's worth a look. S0, if you guys are running pickups with rear under mounted spares you might look at the SUV equavelant vehicles and see if you can set your spare on the rear bumper and add a second fuel tank. Most 4 X 4 Manufacturers build skid plates for their gas tanks too. Then you can put your water storage in military can on your rear swing out carrier. My ARB Compressor, and 3 gallon air tank, is mounted on the swing out tire carrier behind the spare tire. My Kitchen hangs off the inside of the spare tire carrier, when it's swung out, so adding a water pump and having flowing water was easy to set up. Got more but I'll stop here for now. Just thought I'd get you guys to thinking out of the box a little.
Definitely trying to figure out all these items for my xj, most importantly a outside fuel can set up without a spare tire carrier as those carriers on the xjs can be a nusence, I do like the metal rear window replacement to haul a rotopax, a couple gallons isn't much but it enough if you went to far and needed to return further than not having any at all. As far as water goes I'll stick to a simple and cheap way to use water, and for the onboard air I definitely want some sort of system, never know when u might catch a flat and need to shove a unwanted plug in , but I hate carrying a spare I carried one for a few months just to soften up my leafs and then took it out , and spare tire carriers for xjs that are built well are so expensive , getting to the point where I want to build off a rear bumper and do my own, particularly one I can remove but leave the rear bumper , I've also come to realize it's a jeep and it'll never be done lol.
I’ve been running the titan on my JK the last few years. Only advice is not to fill it up more than 10-11 gallons as it’ll splash all over the back of the vehicle off road. Also elevation changes and big temp changes (Death Valley) you may see some bubbling out the top with a near full tank. Great easy setup though! 👍
that gotta be 500lbs hanging 3' or more behind the axle, stock/regular lift springs shocks arent gonna handle that nicely, either gonna need some adjustable air bags to help the coil springs or a stiff suspension.. mounting that weight more towards the middle of the rig almost like saddle bags on a harley would help with this alot but is obviously alot more fab work and maybe cant be made to look sleek
Another great video Nate thank you for sharing . I have on board air ,but I have been looking into the power tank for making quick work in refilling my tires . I use a battery powered impact for changing tires etc . Until next time take care my friend and I hope is all well with you and your family .
Super easy and very common ways to carry more fluids, but in the long term I sure hope you get all that weight off the rear of the truck. The D2 already has a lot of overhang compared to the D1 = more weight behind the rear axle. 5 gallons of water is about 42 lbs. 14 gallons of gas is about 84 lbs. I'll guess that CO tank is about 15 lbs. On top of that, mounting between the door and the spare pushes the wight of the spare out even further behind the axle. That's A LOT of lever arm acting on the rear suspension. It also doesn't help climbing abilities of the truck either. On my D1 I carry my spare/water/fuel all in front of the rear bumper. It's not practical for an overlander where you need more cargo room but it helps better distribute the weight. I also find Rover suspensions are chronically under-damped. I'm running Fox 2.0s and just upped my rear to 231/331 shim packs. Hopefully that will help control the rear. I guess it could be worse - you could do the typical Rover/overlander route and put 20 gallons of water/fuel on the roof rack (!!) LOL Still eagerly watching for the suspension build on this truck! Keep up the good work!
Personally, I use battery powered tools anymore. Powers impacts, Chain saws, ratchets, and such. I use them in the shop as well. Gave up on air a few years back.
G'day Nate from Downunder dude. As you maybe aware, your D2a already has an air tank for the old rear suspension airbags under the drivers seat inbetween the front and rear trailing arm mounts ! 'Opposite Lock' and "Endless Air" already offer water storage or compressed air solutions specific to Land Rover buddy ? Inexpensive items are Fedexed stateside that are more economical then trying to re-invent the wheel for your Overlander. Touch base with Rovertech in B.C. mista
Many already have a large inverter. Probably as many carry a small generator. Any big box hardware store will have small compressors with a tank. A standard 120 volt compressor is a fraction of the cost of a 12 volt model. With any large load, you may need to keep the engine running so that the alternator will help keep the batteries up. This is also true for larger 12 volt compressors.
"Run what ya got" I wish more people would follow this rather than turn the off road scene into a gear rush. But hey, it's their money. Great tips as always Nate!
Love the videos man! And more so the overland builds! Disco is looking great! Any chance you could cover some VW engine codes that can be obtained outside of the U.S? Specifically Europe!
Thanks! I'm not firmilar with European codes unfortunately. I would want to speak without have some experience. But you guys get all the good ones! Lol
Thanks for the video Nate. I appreciate the "use your resourcefulness / creativity over just spend a bunch of money" concept of this video. I'm a fellow Washingtonian and really enjoying your channel. Your videos make me want to get into welding / fabricating and building a rig or maybe rigs of my own. I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited JL Sahara and my wife has a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara with only 18K miles as it's literally used just to go grocery shopping, weekly volunteer work and an occasional trip to the Dr., but the rig I have that intrigues me the most for an overland build is my 2002 Chevy Silverado LT 3500 8.1L 4WD Dually Crew Cab with the Allison transmission. I bought it new to tow my 5th wheel and It's only got 85K miles. Do you think its too big and wide to do any overlanding with or do you think there are enough cool trails that it could go on that it would be worth building it as an overland rig? I haven't see any trucks this size that have been made into overlanders. I would likely sell my 5th wheel travel trailer if I do turn it into an overlander. Thanks
Mind Sharing the water pump and filter combo? I live in Alaska and only really need to have water (ample amounts) on the extra long hunting trips where streams and rivers are plentiful. Hand pumping water sucks though, which has been my backup plan for when I run out of Costco water bottles haha.
Great job on ALL of your videos. I love every one! I just sold my 2000 TJ that I fab'd a lot on and replaced it with a 2015 4runner. Easier to get kids n and out of on the trail and actually room for gear when they are with us. I have a plan on most items for it but would like your opinion on ARB vs Viair systems. I don't have many people in my area with any experience with either. Either way I will have a tank for it. Something to air tires, run lockers, air tools, blow out the RTT, as you mentioned, etc.
Lots of aftermarket swing-out bumpers available for the D2. Check out Tactical Rovers for something similar to what he has. I would caution about hanging that much weight that far behind the axle though - it does nothing for the performance or ride on road or off.
Hiya bud I'm a discovery 1 owner and done a fair bit of off roading in it and one of the biggest problem's with discoverys 1 and 2 is the over hang of the arse end the d2 is about 7-8 inches longer in the arse end I know how bad having weight hanging off the rear is and my concern is that you have alot hanging out the back in this video myself I'd look at rearranging the framework and mountain frame that you have and try to get it as close as possible so you don't get the exaggerated bounce in the rear end of the truck and after a full day of it it's not nice, I ended up taking the 2 seats in the boot or trunk as you guy's call it out for more room inside and I'm even looking at removing the interior cover panels so I can get tighter to the inner wings and build my own storage spaces you'd be surprised on how much room there is once you start taking some of it out
If you have a 4BT Cummins you can get a gear driven compressor. I’ll mount up where your power steering pump does. Then I believe your pump mounts to the compressor. Cost is about $500 for a used one.
Nate, I have been watching your channel for the last year or so great contents. I know sometimes you reach out and help people, maybe you can help me. I spent the last 4 hours on the Web and phone calls searching for a Dania 35 C-clip bearing eliminator kit. I've got a 1998 TJ Jeep with a TrueTrac and 33" tires. Jeep runs great but with the TrueTrac there's a lot of side slop in the rear axles (right the left) so I was wanting to put a C-clip eliminator kit in. I talked to manny syppliers: Summit Racing, Quadratec, 4WDrive, Extremetrain, Morris 4x4, Performance Engeering, Randys World Wide, Yuckon, East Coast Gears and at least another dozen, I just can't think of them all. I know everybody says to do an axle swap to a Dana 44 or a Ford 8.8 But when I got into the Jeeping like everybody else (you don't know a lot and you learn little-by-little) so until it actually breaks the axle swap will need to wait. The TJ runs great and probably will for many more years. I'm gonna keep an eye for a new axle, what would you pick? t I am not sure which one is the best for the TJ considering I'm only ever gonna run 33" (2.5 lift). I live in Florida but do some wheeling in Georgia and Tennessee, 35" would be my Max size tires. Thank you for any input and/or guidance you can give me. Ben III
While I understand the need for some type of onboard air for tire inflation, I wouldn't use that air for tools. With the availability of high quality, low cost cordless tools, it seems the cordless tool option is much better than wasting your bottled air for air tools. As always, great stuff. God bless and stay well.
William Wilde if that’s the case could it fill a tank for onboard air ? As stand by air , let’s say lockers or air up tires . I’m new and trying to wrap my head around this MacGyver work
Yes it could fill a tank easy, someone I know uses that solution instead of compressor on his welding tank it lasts a year or two but those are cheap at wreckers or part out vehicles
Hay Nate, I remember you mentioning building an air system with an old a/c compressor to fill a tank. Are you still looking into do that? I would love to build a system for my turck
the real issue with a ac compressor is stripping the oil out of the outlet air and getting it cycled back into the system , but once you got that and a tank the heat can usually be managed with some heat exchanger piping between the pump and tank.
Great video and lots of good info. Im curious on that extra fuel tank that is mounted behind the spare tire...is it safe to fill while its still mounted or do you have to remove the spare...Remove the tank and place on the ground before filling? How much does it hold? Then to use while in the field, do you just use one of those gas siphoning tubes/hand pump device or is there another method that you use? Now to binge watch your review channel vids ;) Thank you!
My issue with my ZJ is that I want a bigger fuel tank but also I need to move it out from under the back of the vehicle so I can make room for a future 1-ton axle. The only place to put a new/larger tank is inside the back of the vehicle, but that would severely limit the already small amount of cargo space available. I've been trying to figure out what to do about this issue for years but I still haven't come up with anything.
Nate-I digg your content and info. Very helpful. It would be great to get together and go wheeling. Anyway, I have a 10lb NOS bottle that is not being used. I want to turn it in to a power tank. I found a place here in Spokane that will hydro test the bottle. Any ideas as to where I can get the fittings, regulator, and gauges?
The links in my Amazon cart might work. I'm not sure what threads come with a NOS bottle but if it's the same as a co2 tank then these regulators are perfect 👍
If you are running CO2 or Nitrogen in the tank you will want to not install it in your vehicle as any small leak can quickly fill the volume of your vehicle and knock you out before you even know what happened. Secondly is in the very unlikely case of bursting the bottle, 2k psi in a bottle can and will kill or cause major trauma from the over pressure blast upon catastrophic release.
The reason I subbed your channel was because of your attitude of enjoying the experience without killing your budget. The focus IS the experience, rather than comparing how much cooler the other guy's camp is. I'm using my 40 year old hunting gear and having a blast!
We're all under the same sky and stars...... Thank You!
Thank you! I completely agree! The great out doors are for all of us!
40 yr old gear!! HaHa I got ya beat.....Mine is more like 1943 WWII stuf
"Go have fun with what you got" amen to that
I actually think Jerry cans look really cool! The difference between a camper and a glamper 😉
Spray paint a few blue also in old vehicles find a air conditioning pump and hook it up to the tank that way it runs off your engine.
Get out and go just have fun. You don't care what it looks like when you are out, with a big smile on your face rolling down a dirt road or climbing a crazy waterfall. Great video
Nice. Im running a 16 gallon water tank in my Discovery 2 with 2gpm RV water pump. Paired with a propane hot water heater.. Hot showers are nice at camp :). Running an ARB onboard compressor as well. Currently installing a house deep cycle battery, DC to DC charger, inverter and solar panel.
You hit the nail on the head, Have fun with what you have. I see all these people spending thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on shit they think they need when they dont.
I've been looking for fuel storage solutions for my build and that titan tank is perfect! Thanks man!
i like that titan fuel tank. it is a little out of my price range. jerry cans will work for now.
They aren't cheap, but still a fraction of a extended range fuel tank. But I agree, Jerry cans are a great option!
@@DirtLifestyle do they make a mount or something that you can fill up without removing the jerry can from the carrier? i know they make pumps but I was thinking gravity feed?
@@DirtLifestyle have you heard or seen a tank that fits underneath where the spare tire would be on an FJ80?
@@jola689 nato has a pump setup for these cans probably can be found at same surplus shop you get the cans from
Yes! You definitely don't need to have a crap ton of money. Hell I sleep in a hammock with a tarp over me. My Jeep is more built for crawling, and a hammock and tarp weigh practically nothing. Glad to see more awesome encouraging content man!!
Sounds like a great setup to me!
That titan tank is pretty nice and lots of gas! Being a toyota guy we can go a long ways on the factory tank. It’s cool to see different options. Thanks
I love your resourcefulness! I too live in Washington (Kennewick) I work the oilfields in North Dakota.... actually I am driving flatbed till oil prices come back the I will drive tanker truck again! I have a Gladiator Sport max tow and am looking at putting lockers on first and I am wanting air! As a trucker I am a big fan of belt drive compressors but budget and my ability is too low lol my thoughts are to build my 4 wheel drive to its safest and strongest ability and add a wench . I am adopting 2 young children and I am in my 60s so is my wife so with family on board I want good reliable 4x4 locking system and the wench for backup! The lift kit and tires will be later... I want to get up in the hills and stock will get us as hard core as we want for now lol I am going to watch your overlanding builds and draw from that!
Got the same aux tank .. I used a couple of 4" sewer stops and about 6' of PVC pipe and made a water carrier out of it .. holds about 4 gals .. got it mounted to the roof rack and have a fill port and a regular water bib that I hook a 3' hose to!
Started watching for welding and now you have become even cooler!
I like the way the zombie disco is progressing.
When you gotta go wheelin'....u gotta go wheelin'!!!!
Are use gallon milk jugs for water and fuel (50-50 of course, I’m not an idiot) I have a couple balloons that I blow up before the trip starts
I've done this exact thing, problem I have is the jug just bounces around in the back and leaks like crazy. Now that I have OBA I am going to put together some PVC pipe so I can have pressurized water.
I like that Titan tank. I have a 4 gallon RotoPax mounted on my spare tire rack but I like the 12 gallon capacity of what they sell. I may have to upgrade to one of those soon.
I'm a good mix of crawler/ overlander.
94 XJ on d 44's, 37's, 4 link, long arms, arb lockers.
I have a Viair oba system mostly because of air lockers. My air back up is a Milwaukee 12v inflator with adaptors just in case I need it for lockers to get off the trail or to air up a little bit. (2) 4 cell batteries seems to be enough. Being a plumber does helps!
My water system currently is 6 inch pvc about 32" long. 2+ gallons goes a long way if you conserve. An outlet on my air system has a regulator. About 8 psi to the pvc tube is plenty. To conserve water, I adapted a kitchen faucet sprayer. The type that is separate from the faucet. Flow is low but more than enough with air pressure.
My pvc water tube is not hard mounted. When camped out, I move it so that it heats up from the sun. Painting it black can give you a warm shower after about 3 hours in the sun. Take your shower asap. Cools down quickly. Great for washing hands, cleaning trail dust off, and dishes too. I might do a exo cage roof tube. Might do a roof mounted tube one of these days.
Nice video Nate, really enjoying this channel lots of great tips etc
One thing about CO2 is that although it is inert it can also kill you if used in a confined space etc. Good choice placing your tank outside the vehicle. Any ‘container or vessel can leak and In a closed/confined space without proper ventilation would be fatal.
Caveats aside some great Info as always and looking forward to your ‘Overlander’ adventures with your family.
The titan fuel tank is badass.. perfect for my CJ that gets 8mpg!
Jerrycans can be very cheaply modified to work with air/co2 and pressurized for shower or gear washdown.
Um, I'm lucky to get 11MPG in my Discovery 2 on the highway...dont forget the premium fuel. :) great looking rig! Cant wait for more videos.
One thing I feel that is worth noting is that CO2 expands more than other gasses. If you use it in you tires, be aware that as it gets hot it will expand and your tire pressures will increase. If your tank gets to hot and your tank is full, it could pop the overpressure valve. High pressure air (HPA) or Nitrogen are better options for tires.
Thanks for the tip on that spare tire tank. Wish they made them in bright yellah for diesel tho. Been looking for a way to carry more go-juice for the beast. She's thirsty.
Another great video and ideas...! Simple “ have fun with what you got”! Thank you Nate
When it comes to mounting, if like me, you dont have a garage, I recommend planning in a solution to lock it all up.
If people break windows because they think there might be something of monetary value inside, than they're certainly willing to cherry pick it right off the outside of your vehicle.
Really enjoy your videos. Nice to see an American using a Land Rover. I run a LR3 or as we call it a Disco3 here in England. Cheers & Thanks
Thanks!
This is pretty cool, and even better, I’m from Washington as well, what a small world
Thanks Nate, I'm going nuts just hanging around waiting to get released! Your videos are so good to watch, keep it rolling buddy. Back in the 90's and early 00's I was an avid UROC guy. I built a Jeepster Commando for off roading. I love to build off road vehicles
Thank you very much buddy! I appreciate the kind words 🤘
Love this channel, made me want build stuff instead of buying it and kills the time of the lockdown. Keep it up!
Loving the overlanding videos. I also am primarily a rock crawler but I have just recently picked up a 91 Comanche that I’m going to do an overland build with. Keep up the great videos!
Those zero gauge, fixed regulators work great. I have a full size 3/4 ton truck for over-landing and the e-rated tires run 50-65 psi on the pavement. The little 12v air compressors don't have the duty cycle to fill these tires in a timely fashion. I used a $60 fixed regulator and 20 lb. aluminium CO2 tank I got off e-bay for about $70 and I'm good to go!
Looking forward to the review of the C02 tank build.
You certainly have the most useful tips and insightf content! Thank you sir!
Thank you for watching!
I have the trail trekker on my two door jk. That 12 gal's. give me a lot of piece of mind.
The jerry cans, fuel and water, kept us going in the desert in Iraq. I love those things.
Not sure about other manufacturers do it, but the Old Isuzus (Pups, Rodeos & Troopers) used the basic same frames under their 4X4 vehicles. Only they mount the different models gas tanks in different places. Filler neck locations are in different olaces too, but not hard to route a second filler hose from the OEM Filler neck. (Did this with an old 74 GMC short bed pickup once.
One fill neck hit the saddle tanks on both sides.
I run a 93 SAS Isuzu Rodeo with Marlin Crawlers and Full Floater rear axle. (Long List of mods) But I found that Isuzu Pickups fuel tanks (Pups) that mount to the frame between the driveshaft and frame will fit in the same place on the SUV's (Rodeos & Troopers) that have rear under mounted fuel tanks. The amazing part is one end the mounting bracket for the Isuzu Pickup tank is already there. (Other brands may have them under there too!)
So, If you strip off the tanks mounting brackets when you snag the tanks at the salvage yard, you can easily add a 13 to 17 gallon saddle tank under your rig. Get a 9 port fuel transfer tank valve and you can even set it up so your gas gauge works with both tanks, depending on which one you're drawing from.
I built a "Y" filler tube so that I fill both tanks from the one fuel neck. Just turn the nozzel one way to hit one tank and the other way for the other. LIke I said, I'm not sure if the Toyota Pickup ect and the 4 Runners ect use different tanks, but it's worth a look.
S0, if you guys are running pickups with rear under mounted spares you might look at the SUV equavelant vehicles and see if you can set your spare on the rear bumper and add a second fuel tank. Most 4 X 4 Manufacturers build skid plates for their gas tanks too.
Then you can put your water storage in military can on your rear swing out carrier. My ARB Compressor, and 3 gallon air tank, is mounted on the swing out tire carrier behind the spare tire.
My Kitchen hangs off the inside of the spare tire carrier, when it's swung out, so adding a water pump and having flowing water was easy to set up.
Got more but I'll stop here for now. Just thought I'd get you guys to thinking out of the box a little.
Thinking outside the box / doing it on the the cheap👍🏻
Please do a video on your locker setup I heard you run them off your co2 tank wanna do my setup the same way
Definitely trying to figure out all these items for my xj, most importantly a outside fuel can set up without a spare tire carrier as those carriers on the xjs can be a nusence, I do like the metal rear window replacement to haul a rotopax, a couple gallons isn't much but it enough if you went to far and needed to return further than not having any at all. As far as water goes I'll stick to a simple and cheap way to use water, and for the onboard air I definitely want some sort of system, never know when u might catch a flat and need to shove a unwanted plug in , but I hate carrying a spare I carried one for a few months just to soften up my leafs and then took it out , and spare tire carriers for xjs that are built well are so expensive , getting to the point where I want to build off a rear bumper and do my own, particularly one I can remove but leave the rear bumper , I've also come to realize it's a jeep and it'll never be done lol.
awesome man, thankyou for us newbies
Awesome as usual. I can use these ideas on my Class C. Thanks!
Great ideas but that Titan tank.. WOW! Pricey! The other stuff I could do.. Might go the Jerry can route for the gas..
Thank you sir!!
I’ve been running the titan on my JK the last few years. Only advice is not to fill it up more than 10-11 gallons as it’ll splash all over the back of the vehicle off road. Also elevation changes and big temp changes (Death Valley) you may see some bubbling out the top with a near full tank. Great easy setup though! 👍
Great points, thanks 👍
that gotta be 500lbs hanging 3' or more behind the axle, stock/regular lift springs shocks arent gonna handle that nicely, either gonna need some adjustable air bags to help the coil springs or a stiff suspension.. mounting that weight more towards the middle of the rig almost like saddle bags on a harley would help with this alot but is obviously alot more fab work and maybe cant be made to look sleek
Looking forward to the front end alignment segment.
Man I miss my disco. I think I've said that 12 times. Love this build!
Lol thanks
Another great video Nate thank you for sharing . I have on board air ,but I have been looking into the power tank for making quick work in refilling my tires . I use a battery powered impact for changing tires etc . Until next time take care my friend and I hope is all well with you and your family .
Thanks bud. All is well for us! Just a little stir crazy 🤯! I hope you are staying healthy as well 👍
@@DirtLifestyle Thank you
Super easy and very common ways to carry more fluids, but in the long term I sure hope you get all that weight off the rear of the truck.
The D2 already has a lot of overhang compared to the D1 = more weight behind the rear axle.
5 gallons of water is about 42 lbs.
14 gallons of gas is about 84 lbs.
I'll guess that CO tank is about 15 lbs.
On top of that, mounting between the door and the spare pushes the wight of the spare out even further behind the axle.
That's A LOT of lever arm acting on the rear suspension. It also doesn't help climbing abilities of the truck either.
On my D1 I carry my spare/water/fuel all in front of the rear bumper. It's not practical for an overlander where you need more cargo room but it helps better distribute the weight.
I also find Rover suspensions are chronically under-damped. I'm running Fox 2.0s and just upped my rear to 231/331 shim packs. Hopefully that will help control the rear.
I guess it could be worse - you could do the typical Rover/overlander route and put 20 gallons of water/fuel on the roof rack (!!) LOL
Still eagerly watching for the suspension build on this truck! Keep up the good work!
Personally, I use battery powered tools anymore. Powers impacts, Chain saws, ratchets, and such. I use them in the shop as well. Gave up on air a few years back.
Love the Disco!
Thank you! Me too!
Love your philosophy. Just get out there!
Recently started watching your videos and new subscriber Nate and have to say it’s good and entertaining content. Keep up the hard work
G'day Nate from Downunder dude. As you maybe aware, your D2a already has an air tank for the old rear suspension airbags under the drivers seat inbetween the front and rear trailing arm mounts ! 'Opposite Lock' and "Endless Air" already offer water storage or compressed air solutions specific to Land Rover buddy ? Inexpensive items are Fedexed stateside that are more economical then trying to re-invent the wheel for your Overlander. Touch base with Rovertech in B.C. mista
Your channel is hitting all the marks for my build. "Options".
Many already have a large inverter. Probably as many carry a small generator. Any big box hardware store will have small compressors with a tank. A standard 120 volt compressor is a fraction of the cost of a 12 volt model. With any large load, you may need to keep the engine running so that the alternator will help keep the batteries up. This is also true for larger 12 volt compressors.
"Run what ya got" I wish more people would follow this rather than turn the off road scene into a gear rush. But hey, it's their money. Great tips as always Nate!
Fab up a hollow rear bumper and turn it into your water tank 🤘
Love your videos man! Huge fan! Didn’t you know were in WA! Nice! Hope to see you out there one day!
Really great solutions.....simple and elegant 👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻
Thanks brother 👍
Are you going to do some mods for the liberty? Rear bumper with swing away tire carrier, front bumper with winch mount maybe?
Yep 👍
A Liberty? You may leave your man card at the door. Lol, I'm just playin, but you're gonna hear more of that once you start wheelin it.
Great message I actually don’t know anyone with $100,000 to send to basically go camping 👍👍
Great report as always nate.
Love the videos man! And more so the overland builds! Disco is looking great! Any chance you could cover some VW engine codes that can be obtained outside of the U.S? Specifically Europe!
Thanks! I'm not firmilar with European codes unfortunately. I would want to speak without have some experience. But you guys get all the good ones! Lol
Thanks for the video Nate. I appreciate the "use your resourcefulness / creativity over just spend a bunch of money" concept of this video. I'm a fellow Washingtonian and really enjoying your channel. Your videos make me want to get into welding / fabricating and building a rig or maybe rigs of my own. I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited JL Sahara and my wife has a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara with only 18K miles as it's literally used just to go grocery shopping, weekly volunteer work and an occasional trip to the Dr., but the rig I have that intrigues me the most for an overland build is my 2002 Chevy Silverado LT 3500 8.1L 4WD Dually Crew Cab with the Allison transmission. I bought it new to tow my 5th wheel and It's only got 85K miles. Do you think its too big and wide to do any overlanding with or do you think there are enough cool trails that it could go on that it would be worth building it as an overland rig? I haven't see any trucks this size that have been made into overlanders. I would likely sell my 5th wheel travel trailer if I do turn it into an overlander. Thanks
Full size rigs are great for overlanding in my opinion 👍
Almost 95000 subs! Your hitting home runs bud! Keep em coming!
Thanks!!!
Really great video great inexpensive ideas and it gave me some ideas for my next few projects?!
Thanks!
I love the idea having 14 gallon gas can behind the spare tire but how do you transfer the fuel from the gas can to the tank? Thanks AL 👍👍👍👍👍
Mind Sharing the water pump and filter combo? I live in Alaska and only really need to have water (ample amounts) on the extra long hunting trips where streams and rivers are plentiful. Hand pumping water sucks though, which has been my backup plan for when I run out of Costco water bottles haha.
Great job on ALL of your videos. I love every one! I just sold my 2000 TJ that I fab'd a lot on and replaced it with a 2015 4runner. Easier to get kids n and out of on the trail and actually room for gear when they are with us. I have a plan on most items for it but would like your opinion on ARB vs Viair systems. I don't have many people in my area with any experience with either. Either way I will have a tank for it. Something to air tires, run lockers, air tools, blow out the RTT, as you mentioned, etc.
I have a discovery 2 where can I see a better view of the rear bumper it look smart a d fancy doing something similar keep up the amazing content
Lots of aftermarket swing-out bumpers available for the D2. Check out Tactical Rovers for something similar to what he has. I would caution about hanging that much weight that far behind the axle though - it does nothing for the performance or ride on road or off.
I hate TH-cam new comment section format.
Same here.
What’s different about it?
@@jeremy8715 yeah mine looks the same only difference ive noticed is the categories on the recommended section
Feels wrong and can't see how it makes sense
Hiya bud I'm a discovery 1 owner and done a fair bit of off roading in it and one of the biggest problem's with discoverys 1 and 2 is the over hang of the arse end the d2 is about 7-8 inches longer in the arse end I know how bad having weight hanging off the rear is and my concern is that you have alot hanging out the back in this video myself I'd look at rearranging the framework and mountain frame that you have and try to get it as close as possible so you don't get the exaggerated bounce in the rear end of the truck and after a full day of it it's not nice, I ended up taking the 2 seats in the boot or trunk as you guy's call it out for more room inside and I'm even looking at removing the interior cover panels so I can get tighter to the inner wings and build my own storage spaces you'd be surprised on how much room there is once you start taking some of it out
If you have a 4BT Cummins you can get a gear driven compressor. I’ll mount up where your power steering pump does. Then I believe your pump mounts to the compressor. Cost is about $500 for a used one.
Or a 6BT.
Pretty sweet fuel tank
Nate, I have been watching your channel for the last year or so great contents. I know sometimes you reach out and help people, maybe you can help me.
I spent the last 4 hours on the Web and phone calls searching for a Dania 35 C-clip bearing eliminator kit.
I've got a 1998 TJ Jeep with a TrueTrac and 33" tires. Jeep runs great but with the TrueTrac there's a lot of side slop in the rear axles (right the left) so I was wanting to put a C-clip eliminator kit in.
I talked to manny syppliers: Summit Racing, Quadratec, 4WDrive, Extremetrain, Morris 4x4, Performance Engeering, Randys World Wide, Yuckon, East Coast Gears and at least another dozen, I just can't think of them all.
I know everybody says to do an axle swap to a Dana 44 or a Ford 8.8
But when I got into the Jeeping like everybody else (you don't know a lot and you learn little-by-little) so until it actually breaks the axle swap will need to wait.
The TJ runs great and probably will for many more years.
I'm gonna keep an eye for a new axle, what would you pick? t I am not sure which one is the best for the TJ considering I'm only ever gonna run 33" (2.5 lift). I live in Florida but do some wheeling in Georgia and Tennessee,
35" would be my Max size tires.
Thank you for any input and/or guidance you can give me.
Ben III
Ford 8.8 👍 don't spend a dime on the 35. To many failure points
@@DirtLifestyle thanks
Lol blowing dew off your rtt! I'm in Washington like you but when I'm out year round it's more than just dew 😜
thank you.
Great stuff.
Awesome vid brother!
While I understand the need for some type of onboard air for tire inflation, I wouldn't use that air for tools. With the availability of high quality, low cost cordless tools, it seems the cordless tool option is much better than wasting your bottled air for air tools. As always, great stuff. God bless and stay well.
agreed but make sure you have a inverter and charger setup, air or electric neither runs on hopes and dreams
@@jasonjones7321 Or a supply of fully charged 4Ah batteries. But I like the inverter idea too!
@@jasonjones7321 unless you can find a 20A outlet in the woods 😂
Love all the cool ideas👍
You can use your Ac compressor as an air compressor as well, no cold 🥶 air but you can use it to fill tires np
William Wilde if that’s the case could it fill a tank for onboard air ? As stand by air , let’s say lockers or air up tires . I’m new and trying to wrap my head around this MacGyver work
Yes it could fill a tank easy, someone I know uses that solution instead of compressor on his welding tank it lasts a year or two but those are cheap at wreckers or part out vehicles
And the clutch to power it is 12 volt so turn on switch to engage the compressor turn off no air produces
you can easily set a belt driven air compresser up to run to a tank, the high/low switch just needs to interrupt the 12v signal to the clutch
Jason Jones ok that’s cool forgot about the switch
Hay Nate, I remember you mentioning building an air system with an old a/c compressor to fill a tank. Are you still looking into do that? I would love to build a system for my turck
I have all the parts and none of the time lol. I will get there eventually
I have 97. Land Rover I like your fuel tank how did you put on the door
Darn it! I was hoping to see you creative in making a Jerry can mount. :-(
I would love to! But it wasn't neccessary in this instance unfortunately
@@DirtLifestyle plus, commercial jerry can mounts are really cheap.
You can use an AC compressor with an oil filter and a cooler as air comes out very hot
the real issue with a ac compressor is stripping the oil out of the outlet air and getting it cycled back into the system , but once you got that and a tank the heat can usually be managed with some heat exchanger piping between the pump and tank.
Dude you’re the MacGyver of Jeeping 👍🏼
Lol thank you! I'm old enough to know what that means 😂
Definitely aged ourselves there for a second 🤣 How many years have you been into Jeeps / off-roading?
Great video and lots of good info. Im curious on that extra fuel tank that is mounted behind the spare tire...is it safe to fill while its still mounted or do you have to remove the spare...Remove the tank and place on the ground before filling? How much does it hold? Then to use while in the field, do you just use one of those gas siphoning tubes/hand pump device or is there another method that you use? Now to binge watch your review channel vids ;) Thank you!
Thanks! You fill it in place and use the included siphone hose to transfer from one tank to another. The total capacity is 14.5 gallons 👍
Dude excellent info!!!
My issue with my ZJ is that I want a bigger fuel tank but also I need to move it out from under the back of the vehicle so I can make room for a future 1-ton axle. The only place to put a new/larger tank is inside the back of the vehicle, but that would severely limit the already small amount of cargo space available.
I've been trying to figure out what to do about this issue for years but I still haven't come up with anything.
Nate-I digg your content and info. Very helpful. It would be great to get together and go wheeling.
Anyway, I have a 10lb NOS bottle that is not being used. I want to turn it in to a power tank. I found a place here in Spokane that will hydro test the bottle.
Any ideas as to where I can get the fittings, regulator, and gauges?
The links in my Amazon cart might work. I'm not sure what threads come with a NOS bottle but if it's the same as a co2 tank then these regulators are perfect 👍
@@DirtLifestyle thank you. I will investigate today.
Great video - love the Jerry can!!! Does it need to be removed when filling you vehicle tank - or can you syphon straight from it????
It comes with a syphon hose 👍
An old built rig is cooler than a new built rig.
WA, eh?! Looks like you're only about 45 miles away from me!
Nice video, thanks for sharing ✌
Loving the content!
If you are running CO2 or Nitrogen in the tank you will want to not install it in your vehicle as any small leak can quickly fill the volume of your vehicle and knock you out before you even know what happened. Secondly is in the very unlikely case of bursting the bottle, 2k psi in a bottle can and will kill or cause major trauma from the over pressure blast upon catastrophic release.
Almost to 100k subscribers👍
Soooo close!
The titan spare fuel tank is a 12 gallons. But I definitely want to get one for my jeep wangler YJ 😁. Where did you get yours?
The tank says 14.5 gallons clear as day
Where do you go overlanding? I'd love to come with you I live in WA! I'd love to learn some new trails to go on!