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- McLaren 675LT refuses to let my BMW pass…
Yet it was still no less fun being behind it! It's a privelege and honor to share the track with these supercars.
The McLaren driver was shown the blue flag [0:25] to yield and move aside for my BMW after tailing for a few laps and getting close. It's possible he didn't see the flag or realize anyone was on his tail. There were a few opportunities for a pass, but that power! Quite amazing to behold.
Watch the McLaren 675LT practically disappear on the straights with its 666 hp versus my 300 hp. Combined with its superior cornering ability and lighter weight (400lbs less), it surely can leave my car in a world of dust after one or two corners, but the driver was likely exercising some caution on his $350,000+ toy...while I was exercising as much fun as possible out of the 135i :)
Just one McLaren driver and one BMW driver having lots of fun. However, one of them is arguably having a little more fun... Enjoy the chase!
(Please note this was an HPDE in the advanced open passing run group at Sonoma Raceway. Due to the nature of this event, I maintained a safe distance in the corners, avoided making any aggressive moves to pass, and used less throttle and/or more brakes than necessary entering Turns 6, 10, 3, 3A, & 4. In the interest of safety, I chose to wait for a point-by from the McLaren driver due to the impressive power of his car and in case he was not aware of me.
At the beginning of this session, the McLaren was further ahead by at least 6-7 seconds as I take the first lap easy. The video starts after I caught up which took 4-5 laps. Based on the recovered gap between us, I ran at a pace by an average of 1-2 seconds faster per lap in this particular session.)
BMW 135i setup: stock tune, 235/265 Hankook R-S3, Ohlins R&T, Quaife LSD, M3 arms/bushings, Vorshlag camber plates at -2.2, PFC-08 pads with RB stainless steel pistons + Castrol SRF. Dyno at 270hp/272tq at the wheels. Weight at 3520lbs with driver.
Cooling: Distilled water as engine coolant plus 2 bottles of Redline WaterWetter.
Cameras: GoPro HERO5 for the main footage, HERO4 Black for steering, HERO4 Silver for rear view, and HERO3+ Black for pedals.
Music is "Never Sober" by Avenza
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Solid driving dude! You obviously have lots of skill. Amazing how much faster the McLaren is but your skill had you right on him in the turns. Keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words! I still have tons of learning to do and will continue the endless pursuit to improve!
This guy's good! I've been in the car with him at Sears Point, and he gets better every session. I love his entry speed into turn 10 at the end, on the edge!
Many thanks! Coming from you that means a LOT!
Love how you have the camera set up man, nice vid!
Thank you!
Just sent you a message about the camera setup
Could you message me that camera setup as well?
That was really good driving man!
Thx
awesome video man, you're a really good driver.
Thank you!
This happens all the time with guys in supercars now. Wasn't this way years ago. Now, guys in Ferraris and Vipers holding up an entire gaggle of Miatas is sadly common.
Another win for the MANUAL and a great driver both of which go hand in hand.
Cheers to 3 pedals, thanks
Great, great driving. It's clear you know your car, its limits and YOUR limits, while the other guy doesn't.
+Geopan Thanks! It probably takes time to know limits in a car like that 😶
Clearly. But he would better be training in your car before taking this thing to the track: he will not improve that fast in a car he is scared of. 1. He doesn't take the race line. 2. he's afraid of the speed at the end of straights and breaks way too early and too hard, then he needs to accelerate way harder than he should (for his level) because he probably tries to make "good" laps, then he goes too fast, gets scared, breaks too early... ->start over again. I have started trackdays for 6 months now, in a understeering 964 c4, it's fun but with some experienced driver giving you advice on track, I would gain like 6-7 seconds a lap, then with the same guy pushing me a bit (by following on track with his tracktoy) I would gain another 5 seconds, to reach +4 seconds on his best lap. That's how you improve. First I thought "dude I can't go faster on this corner", at the end of the day I went 15seconds faster than in the first/second session...
+bisondacier A sound assessment. That's a huge improvement...good work!
Superb drive, on the edge! :) keep em coming
Thanks man!
Milkway knew the racing line. You surely controlled the way to make 135i predictable in each gear.
Thanks! Pilot over machine 👊
awesome! enjoyed watching. (guess it was too tough for the mclaren to let a bimmer pass, hence the pitting out? 😉)
Thanks! lol
What a shoe! Fantastic work man!
3:13 did you poop a little?
lol
a person who can only go fast in a straight line belongs to the lowest skill level of the driver group. these people has more money then skills.
very cool camera-views! nice "race" :-)
glad you like it!
Good driving! It was a fun moment for you, that's for sure!
I'm not sure he was blocking you or something. He doesn't have much skill but the power of his car make him as fast as you. The speed difference wasn't that big!
+Great Troll Racer Thanks! It was awesome to be anywhere near his car! He gave me a great view 😊
I'm sure it was more enjoyable for you trying to catch him than driving alone if he let you pass, this is racing
You have a good point xD
You get yourself a new subscriber sir !
Great jod and amazing fun I suspect :) I hope one day I can anjoying my life like this.
+Brewko Zord 🙏 Awesome!
Indeed...not too long ago I didn't even think it was possible to have this much fun :) A friend took me to the track in 2014 and it was all over for my other hobbies lol. You can and will if you put your mind to it! Make it happen...good luck!
Good chase. Nice rev matching.
+beyonder thanks.
Sonoma track looks exciting! And your heel&toe skill looks smooth!
+Rock Chen It sure is, my favorite so far! Thanks!
Milkywave How have you adjusted to the throttle by wire for heel toe? I'm coming from a much more sensitive throttle to what feels like an endless abyss of gas pedal. Just curious if you altered your technique.
+Derek Rostock It helps to blip earlier before the downshift into lower gear. The gas pedal in this car could be more sensitive and responsive...
@@Milkywave Not sure if you're aware yet, but the N54 has throttle smoothing tables built in. You can set them (eliminate them) so there's no delay between your foot and the throttle. It's sluggish by design to make it comfortable but not what we want for high performance driving. There's actually a lot of electronic nannies built it that can be turned off that help tremendously on these cars.
Some of the brake nannies are coded off but didn’t know about the throttle smoothing - do you have a link with more info?
Nice work!
+Vilen Rodeski Thx! ☺️
Bravo, good driving!
🙏
The McLaren driver probably went home after this rethinking his life and why a 135i beat his 675LT on a racetrack ^^
Or it was just his 1st, 3rd, 5th time taking his LT on the track and he was just taking it easy enjoying his machine just like the BMW driver was :)
Joshua Guevara oh cmonnn he's not a wussy like you.
Ouch. I'm hurt.
Did he give you the finger when he pulled off the track?
lol
XOMGSkyrimX nah looked like he's putting up his hand letting drivers know he's slowing down. we have to in Karting because there are no break lights.
My friend and I spun out in his '12 135i on sonoma in july, sucked hard. Smashed the entire drivers side. Turn 7, got stuck behind some horrible driver with a big newbie sticker on the back, he pointed by and went wide, but turned into our path when we went to pass.
Ouch, sorry to hear.
Stock fucking tune? Insane. Have you looked into MHD tuning?
Thanks man. Can’t consider any tuning yet due to high engine temperatures, which I eventually plan to address with additional cooling. Also, brakes are maxed out and barely stopping the car reliably as is.
@@Milkywave Do you remember which brake setup you were using during this video? I see it was awhile ago, so I apologize if I have to jog your memory a bit.
@Miska Hey, luckily I keep notes of my setup for each track day :) It was stock calipers upgraded with RB stainless steel pistons, PFC-08 pads, E46 M3 CSL rotors with tronik brackets, Castrol SRF.
Just for your enjoyment, the owner of this McLaren 675LT and the person behind the wheel is Bayarenady, look him up on Instagram and enjoy.
My butthole was clenched the whole time. Fine driving there, mate.
+Wilson Roño Mission Accomplished. LOL! Thanks
well done!
Thanks!
very nice
thanks
Thing is, he isn't really slowing you down. If he had let you pass, he would had have to pass you at every straight or slowing down for you. Great driving btw
Thanks! Well the truth is, at the start of the session, he was about 6-7 seconds ahead (more details in the description). After a few laps I was right there and caught up as shown in the video (he was about 1-2 seconds slower per lap).
I applied the brakes much earlier a few times and took a more conservative line in the corners to keep a safe distance. So there was an impact on pace.
I think it’s best to let cars on your tail to pass and if you have to pass them again, no worries! But I can understand the reasons why a driver may not want to. It was a super fun session regardless, and the driver not letting me pass made the video more interesting LOL.
Good job! But you should really practice left foot braking for all the time when you won't need your left foot on the clutch for downshifting - more precise and faster driving.
Thank you! I probably should, but I need to master normal right foot braking first :)
Welp... Now I want to start racing....
+Where Eagles Have Been 😝🤓
super mordo
is that a game?
He should let you pass before the turns then he could pass you on the straights. That way everyone is happy.
That is ideal!
What track is it?
klstrucker930419 i was just gonna ask the same
Sonoma Raceway (originally known as "Sears Point")
Thanks for answering
That's Infineon Raceway, right?
Correct - I prefer that name, but it's now called Sonoma Raceway. Also formerly known as Sears Point.
Hey may I ask how you got here? This video is getting a ton of views suddenly!
+Milkywave the video got shared on Car Throttles facebook page, nice driving btw!
+James Bridgland Oh cool, thx!
I'm not so sure that McLaren driver should be in advanced.
With that said you drive the wheels off that thing!
+Murray Hersh haha thx 😜
Is this bayareanady?
hehehe we all know the feeling.
hehe
I over took a Mustang GT in my E30 (equipped with 14" all season tires) at Laguna Seca. Not once but twice! Frustrating yet amusing.
That is awesome! Those E30's can be fun cars on the track
im sure the LT have a much faster lap time then this bmw, but The LT driver just don't know how to turn
what does it mean "the mclaren is flagged " ?
The corner official between Turns 5 & 6 waved the blue flag to the McLaren to move aside. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_flags#Blue_flag
Amr EzzElDin it's actually a misleading title . The flag was for the Miata which was just passed after turn 4. Usually the flag workers get the instruction from the previous flag workers .
It's in the description: "The McLaren driver was shown the blue flag [0:25] to yield and move aside..."
do you mean that as in the marshals are mic'd up together? AFAIK they only blue flag based on line of sight, description said the BM had been tailing you for a few laps and the miata wasnt even in view when both cars went past the post? or am i missing something :S - either way, your car is a beaut :D
all the marshals are mic'd up. that's how they coordinate yellow, black, pass, checkered flags, etc. I have a lot of videos but I'm extremely careful in posting them. Ive seen a pass flag in the past and I look in my rear view mirror and I don't see a car (car was passed just a few moments before which was not even in the line of sight of that particular flagger. During this track day on the second session I did a 180 degree spin and the car wasn't feeling right. In this particular session I got off early because I believe it was the last session and I wasn't trusting the car (spin and check engine light).
Sonoma raceway is a funny place on a normal track day. If there is traffic in front of you then you have to measure yourself. If I have traffic in front of me after turn 11 headed towards the main straight then I can't go flat out because I'll hit 130 mph at start/finish and I'm not going to use the brakes and I'll catch up and rear end any car in front of (don't want to brake as the car is turning). This is how it works at sonoma. On a regular track day you can't just go flat out each lap and slower cars will ultimately catch up to you because you are going to get stuck behind someone at a different section.
Go back through this guys videos when he is showing a comparison of two go pro's and one of them is when he is behind me. It's pretty easy to just post a video and say whatever a person wants.
since u don't have the carbon ceramic brakes the McLaren has your breaks will start to fade very soon on a track....and hardly any power too....if that car was driven properly by a component driver that bm had no chance
+Stuart Campbell For sure! Yeah there was quite a bit of brake fade as well as pedal sinkage during the video. I'd love to switch cars haha
Saw this on Instagram.
Something to consider, these "chase down" videos don't promote the right DE behavior. If he is in your way, hot pit in and re-enter the track. Everyone in DE should be driving at a level where they are in complete control of the car which is different for different people.
If you want to race, come join one of the sanctioning bodies and race. Then the "chase" are similarly classed cars and drivers all looking to win
Matthew Robinson That makes sense but going along with your line of thought - isn't it etiquette (or "the right DE behavior") for the McLaren to have let the Bimmer pass to begin with? I'd think the initial gesture of courtesy lies with the car who can't shake or dust you at the corners. If you watch the vid in its entirety, the driver was clearly flagged to move out the way. As for racing for wins - the poster clearly states he was having fun. But even fun can be hindered by supercar ego.
+Matthew Robinson I agree with you but I didn't mind being behind the McLaren.
You should learn how to downshift properly with double-clutching, if you want to show it to the the world. Throttle blips with pressed clutch are half useless and make people feel you don't control the car entirely. There is enough time to do it perfectly...
Oh darn, you noticed! That was just a test to see if anyone noticed or cared xD
In all seriousness, that was an unintentional touch of the throttle. This was my first event trying this double-clutching business, and you are absolutely correct - not necessary. I still have lots and lots of learning to do! But I think the people who do it just like to hear the exhaust. I know I love hearing mine...
I believe showing the world will only help me improve, and I can’t be thankful enough for this wonderful opportunity to share this video with so many :)
Thanks for watching!
The 135 could not pass!
McLaren drive dosent have the skills....if someone swap him ....i dont think you would even see it...
Read the description. The McLaren driver is not pushing 100%
The description was written by the guy driving the BMW. =l
It also says he let off the throttle and started braking earlier than he had to because of the Mclaren, and that he didn't want to take any risks by trying to pass him.