Part One | The First Order Reimagined | Star Wars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2021
- The First Order didn't quite meet the expectations of the Templin Institute. But are we capable of doing any better? In this episode, we attempt to redesign the First Order and hopefully create a nation that's more effective, interesting, and intimidating.
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Can you guys do a video about zeon from Mobile suite gundam
Could you please make a redesign of the new republic?
Nice Job, with both the wallpaper and the First Order explanation. Now the real challenge is explaining the Resistance and New Republic.
I feel that there is some wasted opportunity with there not being a back up plan to throw First Order under the bus if it suits Sith Eternal(ugh, I still hate the core idea of it) to publicly oppose it.
Really cool artwork.
"You were The Chosen Ones, Templin Institute! You were supposed to observe alternate timelines, not create them!"
Lol
Now this comment has made my day!
"We are your followers, Templin Institute! We love your work!"
"WHY THANK YOOOU!!!"
@@mosesracal6758 the institute protects
"They have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to their new empire!"
First Order media: "Hey kids! Who's ready to hear the tale of Darth Plagueis the wise? Its not a story your parents would tell you"
I think you mean "It is a story your parents would have told you as it is required learning in the 6th grade. You will have an exam on this topic"
You know you think since Disney erase legend you'll think they'll try new ideas instead of doing something similar smh
BUT it's not a sith legend. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge
Its appears on WhatsApp all the time.
Generally they are entitles as something like "The True that Republic Doesn't Wanna You to Know!" or "What Republic Hides From You".
@@michaellaramee1965 Edutainment at its finest!
Disney: Pays millions for writing teams to come up with a new trilogy
Some nerds with a youtube channel: Let us introduce ourselves
Yeah, but you still have to give credit to writers, regardless of their alignment.
@@flynnwhimster5371 I don't think he was trying to discredit anyone.
I've read a good amount of SW fan fics, writen by serious fans, not shippers and such, and they were much better than the original sequels.
@@flynnwhimster5371 well JJ did admit they had absolutely no plan for the sequel trilogy
I can't speak towards fan-fics, but concerning the movie - it is easier to reimagine someone else's work because they laid the baseline for it. The secondary person gets to see all its failings and improve/correct them.
The only fan-fic I will speak towards is a Star Trek move: Nemesis. Lord, that was horrible.
I now realized that Disney did not want to do a sequel, but a reebot.
they foremost wanted one thing Money
and if you reboot the series, you cannot keep the numbered episodes...
A *_REEEEEEE_* boot
They wanted both. They wanted to utilize the characters and events of the established franchise, while also reusing the plots that already proved popular, while also handing crazy amounts of creative control to different directors who all had different ideas and wanted to make star wars "their own".
The thing is, that is the most accurate thing you can call the Sequel Trilogy, because they basically copied and pasted the og series onto the sequels, and then edited a few of the details like characters.
Disney: First Order
Templin: The Cooler First Order
Disney: The Virgin First Order
Templin: The Chad First Order
The First-er Order!
Now it’s the time for a te Olin institute rewrite of the sequel trilogy with this first order as antagonists
Disney and Lucasfilm: The First Order Larper
Templin Institute: The First Order Shadow Government.
Disney first order: what are you
Templin first order: I’m you but better
“Long have I waited...”
Well, I actually only had to wait for two days but still.
The Emperor approves of his comment and you shall be rewarded, would you like an assignment to the Unknown Regions in service of our Empire?
It was a long two days!
Now it’s the time for a te Olin institute rewrite of the sequel trilogy with this first order as antagonists
Technically we’ve been waiting for this since episode 7.
172,800 seconds is a long time
"For 30 years we prepared and grew stronger, while you rested in your cradle of power."
"Believing your people were safe and protected. You were trusted to the lead the Republic... but you were deceived.... as our powers of the Dark Side have blinded you.
You assumed no force could challenge you.
And now...
Finally, we have returned."
You were Deceived .
And now, your Republic shall fall.
@@fumarc4501 I could almost imagine a version of this cinematic, where the Asha-Karat troopers storm the capital of a New Republic-aligned planet and mow down all of its security forces.
@@jimbodeek love the swtor reference
@@jimbodeek "You were deceived. And now, your New Republic...shall FALL."
That's...actually how I imagined the First Order to be when I watched TFA. This is so eerie. Love it.
Dude I imagined it to be that way as well
yeah the last 2 episodes turned the first order into a joke.
I watched this whole video, and I kept looking back at the title to reaffirm that this was indeed a fan-based REIMAGINATION of what the First Order/Sith Eternal is in the films and overall canon.. because I swear, aside from the commissioned artwork of the concept super star destroyer.. EVERYTHING ELSE in this video is COMPLETELY fitting for what I believed to be the ACTUAL backstory and context of the First Order shown in the Disney films, at very least
..suffice to say, I think a story based off of what this video depicts, both in written and art forms, is what the ongoing Star Wars storyline ought to be
our expectations were so high...
Your version of the first order feels genuinely terrifying to go up against. Not like the clown fiesta disney created.
An antagonist is a lot more frightening when it is both competent and competently written.
@@chryssalidbait8765 And much MORE satisfying when brought down.
Disney's version made the First Order feel so sad that you actually feel sorry for them.
A lot of parallels with corps and governments that exist in real life. Unforgiving, brutal, and efficient
To make it better, this is a First Order that will win!
When one person does an empire better than an entertainment industry
I’m sure the whole Institute helped with this. Hence the “our” and “we”
@@KillerOrca yeah I see
@@amazingbro6723 edward
@@jacobs279 ?
@@amazingbro6723 edward
I love how the Sith Eternal fleet could be replicated perfectly in Stellaris
All the way down to the juggernaut
@@dango6266 Maybe he used his extensive experience in Grand Strategy games, like Stellaris, to give himself a visual while writing this? Wouldn't be unheard of.
I've heard of story writers that play out a D&D campaign, or a Grand Strategy game, to get a better idea of how a story might flow in the micro and macro respectively.
Just saying.
@@wolfrainexxx maybe, but the stellaris juggernaut came in an expansion after that one really stupid star wars movie
@@gunslingerspartan Fair, but are you sure he wasn't using mods? I thought the juggernaut was apart of a mod pack...
@@wolfrainexxx it's a dlc
You actually made Snoke's ascendence believable and interesting.
I like the mystery of their rise more here as well too.
I just love how the Sith empire simply calls their return to power "The Day" it's so cool and intimidating.
I'm picturing what the call to action is like. Letters slipped under doors just saying, "The Day is here. Remember your part."
Reminds me of WWII. In which the day that the Allies stormed Normandy was just known as D-Day.
Graffiti on walls in the seedy underbelly of many worlds saying "The Day is coming"
Some painted by edgy street gangs as jokes, and some by civilian militias ready to answer the call to arms.
@@Justin-ui5ti I think it is also a reference to World War I, German Army operation named "Der Tag"
German for The Day.
From German nationalist movement; in the Great War it came to refer to the Day conquest would begin.
@@samaepl I was about to talk about that, yes. _Der Tag,_ the day they would settle with France the question of European hegemony once and for all. War with France had been so hyped up that the German Army was a coiled spring, ready to throw themselves into the fray. All they needed was a single word: _Attack!_
The problem is, none of the grunts knew actual war, nor did their officers understand the form it was taking.
Well... This version of the First Order is just so much scarier and menacing than what we got in the films. They make sense, they have a reason, and it looks like they are efficient at what they are doing. Would be interesting to imagine how the trilogy would've looked like based on this.
@@marrqi7wini54 Well at this point, they seem to have been written to be unstoppable.
If we assume that no 'main characters' save the day, the New Republic can only hope that the Fifth Column isn't powerful enough to topple the Republic, and that people realize how goddamn insane the Sith Eternal are.
Then, the Republic needs to be able to start slugging it out with the Sith Eternal in a protracted campaign, and the question will be : who breaks first ? A small, distant but fanatically dedicated empire with an elite force, or a galactic spanning, corrupt yet still gigantic industrial power that could overwhelm the Sith with sheer military might (but that might just be too tired of war) ?
@@marrqi7wini54 The Force....
And a well written story that has the heroes defeating them by the skin of their teeth because a victory against this version of the First Order will not be easy.
@@marrqi7wini54 It is quite similar to the WW2 Pacific War: How fast can the FO/Eternal cripple the New Republic and control strategic objectives before the later properly mobilise and gets the far bigger War Economy going.
The first strike alone would be worth half the war's outcome, the following months the other.
The New Republic sound weak, but that's because it's not preparing for war, it has to rule over most of the Galaxy including the populous and industrial inner rim, which can pump-out immense navies and armies when necessary.
@@ekonomija8718 At that point, the question is whether the New Republic gets enough support from the people to switch not only their industrial base, but also their mentality to a TOTAL WAR footing. The New Republic already has the numbers and the industrial base to out produce and outnumber the Sith Eternal. As long as the population continues to support the The New Republic and the military leaders have the stomach and mind to completely wipe out the Sith Eternal would the Republic be able to win. Otherwise, you'd end up in a Vietnam scenario where the full might of the military is not being used and you have a government not willing to use it because the population is not supporting a war to end the Sith Eternal.
Now it’s the time for a te Olin institute rewrite of the sequel trilogy with this first order as antagonists
The First Order: "Who are you?"
The Templin Institute's First Order: "I'm you, but stronger (narratively)."
But weaker in terms of firepower.
@@orrorsaness5942 But a million times better in tactics, logistics, governance, credibility and common sense
@@Waftey This
Templin's first order: I'm you but smarter and Efficient
“I’m you, but competently written.”
A minor detail about this that I like is that it actually provides a logical reason for operation cinder.
No still stupid
It is the canon reason for operation cinder
@@pupulauls it os still dumb
@@pupulauls no. Then again no one considers the sequels cannon so I guess yes.
@@Demicleasthey did need to expand upon it more outside of Battlefront 2. It was jarring at first ngl.
It is SO SAD to see how a small team of content creators make a much more sound and believable backstory than the one created by a small army of writers under the umbrella of two multi-million dollar media corporations.
I was worried when they already had a timetable for filming before they even had a single script. Star Wars deserved the time to plan out a full story arc for the trilogy before there were any timetables but Disney got greedy and wanted a quick return on their investment.
Multi billion
Pation VS Paycheck.
@@DRYeisleysCreations *passion
did you not see the pictures of the storyboard meeting for upcoming star wars projects such as High Republic? the pics of the white boards reveal why disney star wars is utter crap
This First Order would never work in Hollywood, simply because it's actually competent and would actually stand a chance of winning.
And that creates genuine tension.
But it's also a faction designed with a potential late-movie crack where it splits into a secular, moraly grey Empire successor that could help the heroes defeat the fanatic Sith part. I dig this a lot, you'd spend the entire trilogy thinking "will those hypercompetent and genuinely likable villains turn good/neutral by the end or not?", giving it a bit of a Game of Thrones dynamic where you just wanted to know what will happen to the characters instead of knowing their fate by default.
To be fair, something like what this is proposing would work far better in an incredibly high-production value tv series than it would a movie.
@@thesenate9562, Yeah it would. But it wouldn't make a large enough return.
@@Butter_Warrior99 maybe, maybe not. I think More people enjoy stuff that makes more sense.
When you talk about Palpatine fearing his admirals and moffs if they were to discover his Sith identity -- I absolutely love this. I love the idea of Palpatine fearing his own subordinates more than the Rebellion -- to the point of encouraging their rivalries to weaken them, very fascinating. It makes sense, too, when you consider Palpatine's ultimate goal was not a Galactic Empire, but a new Sith Empire, but until he had unlimited power (The Final Order) and eternal life, he had to remain in the shadows.
It also tracks with a never developed fact from the Star Wars radio drama -- that Tarkin was thinking about the possibility of overthrowing the Emperor once the Death Star was completed and the Rebellion crushed. I love this idea, but to take it one step further, it would be interesting if Tarkin alone surmised that Palpatine was a Sith. He spent so much time with Vader and Palpatine, he realized this. And Palpatine knew Tarkin was catching on, but he couldn't outright eliminate Tarkin, because Tarkin was hugely popular among the military officers.
A very cool story exists in that premise.
The books had a concept of a "battle trance" which had it so that Palpatine was using the force to coordinate imperial forces. Perhaps he allowed the Death Star to be destroyed to remove Tarkin from the board?
Could even explain why the stormtroopers couldn't hit past the plot armor of the main characters if he wanted Luke as an apprentice.
“Never become more popular than the boss.”
Makes sense, given that Tarkin figured out Vader was Anakin very quickly, he already knew something was off.
@@trumpstaffel1675 Yep. He did. He even makes that comment in Episode IV "The Jedi are all but extinct. You my friend are the last of their religion." And Vader doesn't deny this. Thrawn also was able to deduce that it was Anakin Skywalker who was under that armor of Vader. They'd met during the clone wars in the new thrawn novel trilogy. After Thrawn is able to deduce this himself he later makes a comment to Vader that went something like "Around the time when we first met. All those years ago. During the clone wars. Do you remember?" And again Vader doesn't deny any of this but stays silent.
@@VVeremoose The puppeter, this is what a tightly written plot needs.
It feels like I just watched a 30 minute trailer for a piece of fanfiction I'll end up writing myself.
drop us a link when its ready
Tell us when your done. I love fanfiction especially GOOD ones
DEWIT
@@matthewdeleon382 Me too dude!
"Is this a dangerous slide into the world of fan fiction?"
It is a sad sign of the times that your "fan fiction" is superior in every way to any kind of official material put out by Disney.
Well mando and bb are pretty good
@@ominousmecha500 Haven't seen Bad Batch, but while I agree that the Mandalorian is a good show, the writing has plenty of shortcomings.
@Wu Jiang calling the Disney trilogy fan Fiction is an insult to fan fiction.
@@AmericanCaesarian I still disagree that it's woke, it's just bad.
Fanfiction is works and such done without the backing, support, approval or blessing of the IP.
The most practical and realistic version of the first order. It’s an empire that has learned from its mistakes and is ready to take back the galaxy
Now it’s the time for a te Olin institute rewrite of the sequel trilogy with this first order as antagonists
But are they working for the sith eternal
@@thomasdaywalt7735 the thing they don't even know the Sith Eternal exist
"Dangerous slide into fanfiction"? My dude, you and your team just wrote an entire setting for my next Star Wars RPG campaign. Do that more, your ideas are awesome and its always nice to listen to something that obviously had a lot of thought put into it :)
Please post somewhere the results of said RPG campaign. Pretty please.
Even bigger pretty please from me
Hey, you there?
Haha, will do, but arm yourselves with patience, it will take a while to write, get the players together and actually play the damn thing :D
you know... star wars groups and roleplays ARE a big thing on a lot of platforms... ROBLOX, Garry's Mod and all...
:]
I imagine the sith troops would have a reputation similar to vader. Seeing a group marching toward your position would basically be a death sentence, a reputation they likely wear with pride
For the First Order, the brutality is a means to an end. For the Sith Eternal, the brutality _is_ the end.
Nicely said
Now it’s the time for a te Olin institute rewrite of the sequel trilogy with this first order as antagonists
Pellaeon's Empire: Handed some brute tools (3 Star Dreadnoughts), tries to use them surgically.
I feel the need to make a TNO reference at that.
"For the Sith Eternal, the brutality is the end." Actually no. The brutality is also a means for the Sith: The brutality causes anger and suffering in the "prayer batteries" that are non-force sensitives (Sith see non-Force sensitive as basically generators for creating more dark emotions inside the Force, the more trillions of them the better), the Sith are Force junkies that need a fix, and the only way how to get ever greater quantities of said fix is to create ever greater quantities of suffering, anger, hate and fear in the populations that fuels the Force to be ever more filled with Dark energies that the Sith can siphon off to stave off withdrawal symptoms of their addiction.
Okay: this is my new head canon. Talk about a formidable antagonist faction.
Now, please, reimagine the New Republic and it's response. And how Luke, Leia, Han and the rest would react to all of this. I want more.
This please
I'd love to see the New Republic have to face this sort of crisis. Let's see that follow-up vid =)
yes, this please
Man, I need to see this
Uuppp
Imagine the first order with elite stormtroopers, clonetroopers, droid armies and multiple well trained darksiders. That is scary
It would probably take an entire saga before they'd end up losing their war with the New Republic...
bascially, the dark side vs the light
the force's ultimate clash
imagine basically swtor trailers but live action
we couldve had this but
nooooooooo
@@jimbodeek this kind of New Empire is truly threatening, and idk if this force could be taken down.
Sith designed Battle Droids vs Former CIS Battle Droids is a fight I want to see!
Just do it. Recreate the entire sequel story. This version is far superior than the garbage Disney cooked up. You’ve done incredible work here, and yes, continue that dangerous slide.
DEWIT!
I wish there was a billionaire Star Wars fan that could hire these guy to at least write a book trilogy. I’d consider this canon way before I ever consider the Mickey Mouse trilogy canon.
Yeah I agree with you On that it would be the coolest
A trilogy with the reimagined New Republic and First Order would be truly worthy of the "Star Wars" name...
Cooked is not the word I’d use, I’d say burnt on the outside, undercooked on the inside.
The fanfiction is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
...... That is definitely true. There are uncountable memories I've suppressed just from story descriptions. All of humanity's sins are recorded in fanficiton somewhere, I guarantee it.
And kickass!
is it possible to learn this power
@@marsar1775 Not from Hollywood writers
@@Warhamer116 no its not from a Disney writer
A Sith Empire that fights like the Rebel Alliance, huh.
Considering the circumstances of them coming back from a base in the outer reaches, it makes sense. Not a lot of manpower or resources out there.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor yeah, with the limited resources they have, they would have to employ some rebel tactics to harass the republic and use high quality equipment. For fighters, i was thinking they would use a more advanced TIE Defender as well as TIE Avengers and TIE Phantoms, or at least something similar. They would also use their spies and moles within the new republic to probably slow down their response to "The Day"
well the tactics described sounded more like Blitzkrieg to me then guerilla warfare.
@@TheBlackfall234 well blitzkrieg is basically spearheading with a lot of armor to reach their goal as fast as possible.
@@goodimperial5396 not really. Thats just one part of it.
Blitzkrieg is basically combined mobile warfare.
Like they describe the first order you know... highly mobile, combined arms warfare.
I love it! Makes me think a little bit of the Clan Invasion from Battletech.
I like the idea of a faction that tried to combine The Galactic Empire and Rebel Alliance to create a 'best of both.'
"To compensate for their limited population, First Order battle doctrine is organized around flexibility and initiative rather than overwhelming numbers and fire power. Small groups are elite soldiers and pilots are trained and equipped to operate independently with little to no logistical support. Furthermore, to maximize what little manpower they have, many anti-alien policies from the old empire have been removed. Humans and non-humans operate side by side, often on equal terms, trained to value duty to the state over personal prejudice. Ironically, the First Order, in terms of doctrine and training, is much more like the alliance that destroyed the very empire they strive to restore."
Talk about equal-opportunity evil...
@@jimbodeek I wouldn't call something evil because they are labelled as such. We perceive evil in the restriction of rights and freedom, yet this faction would allow every member to achieve their maximum potential, which is an important right. Meanwhile, the republic would still be corrupt and inept to the point where the outer regions are constantly suffering from rampant piracy, which deprives its inhabitants of their right to life and reproduction etc. because outlaws are obviously depraved to some degree. Therefore in many parts of the galaxy they would be the better faction, while in the core regions they would not shine as much, because only advancement is restricted by nepotism there.
You're a kerenskiite aren't you
@@connormcleod998 I guess it depends on which Kerensky you are talking about.
Seyla!
"STAR LEA-fuck-SITH ABOVE ALL!" -F/O Mechwa-fuck-ATST Driver
storm trooper in white armor: this doesn't blend into anything.
sith trooper: hold my beer
They wear red to blend in with the bloody corpses they leave in their wake
@@andrewchilds8886 ya see that would be bad ass, if disney starwars did anything bad ass with them.
i think its dumb they called them sith troopers
shouldve been called praetorians
@@mondaysinsanity8193 the audience disney has cultivated can only comprehend 1 sylibol words. so they dont want their customers to feel dumb.
“The uniforms of the Imperial Infantry are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight. The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill. This is not the way of the Asha'Kurat. Asha'Kurat armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims loyalty to the Supreme Leader, and to the Sith Eternal. Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear!”
Sad to think that more thought was put into this 29 minute or so video than Disney put into the background lore of the entire sequel trilogy spread over years of development and involving multiple professional writers, directors etc..
Not once did the Templin Institute say “a story for another time”
Too many cooks in the kitchen. Corporate meddling, competing visions and agendas...It's no surprise it turned out the way it did.
@@zefft.f4010 true
I agree. This kind of world-building & societal commentary would’ve been so much more interesting instead of the ‘zombie empire’ the guys & gals at Disney cobbled together.
They did have a staff of competent writers who wanted to tell a great story, but the leadership (KK), wanted another, more virtuous storyline.
> "The Day" happens
> 'Sacred War' starts playing across the Galaxy
> The New Republic - "Why do I hear boss music?"
The time has come! Commander! Start “The Music”
@@deraybell9140 The Day really is just "The Great Trial" Star Wars Edition
In my head I would imagine the scene where the first order arrives being just a single star destroyer arriving and everybody just looking in awe and shock
The Day approaches brother!
Oh really? When?
*NOW.*
Not gonna lie, I'm here for it tbh
Snoke: *THE SIGNAL!!!*
All collaborators: Opens a hidden doors with an omemous brown colored sand in a T shape an 3 dark skull is placed. They somehow summoned the wither in real life.
This might be my favorite new Star Wars thing anyone's done!
My head is swimming with the possibilities of this take, and I'm *baffled* how no one at Lucasfilm was able to put anything like this together for the entire ST venture.
Really, really hoping Templin does more with this alternative take on the "First Order" as The Sith Empire 🤞🏻🤞🏻
I experienced genuine sadness knowing this video isn't canon. So much better than what we received in the sequel trilogy.
Bro, I don’t even care what Lucasfilm says, this IS canon. Every time I write a fan fic, or make a fan project, THIS is what I will use as the basis in canon timeline.
Disney starwars episode 7 Snoke who is he? Episode 8 snoke is a putz episode 9 snoke who?
Templin StarWars episode 7snoke who is he? Episode 8 mastermind, wait what do mean a puppet? Episode 9 HOLY CRAP!!!
@@TheBlackBrickStudios agreed
@@TheBlackBrickStudios I sort of feel the same way. The prequels aren't canon to me, neither are The force awakens and the rise of skywalker. All I need is the originals and The Last Jedi.
😔
Crazy how troops fight better when you actually try to keep them from dying
Sun Tzu said: For it is precisely when a force has fallen into harm's way that is capable of striking a blow for victory.
@@efenty6235 He also said " Throw your soldiers into positions whence there is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight. If they will face death, there is nothing they may not achieve. Officers and men alike will put forth their uttermost strength."
With the fate of the original empire and the propaganda of them being the last remnants of such a system, they will almost certainly feel as if defeat in any battle is destruction for all they have ever known. This, the proper use of the forces, and how absolutely dedicated to warfare their entire society is would make them a force to be reckoned with. They're like a supercharged version of the Prussians (one of the core germanic states, known for their intense militarism which rose from the Teutonic Order, which was a holy order of knights)
@@Isometrix116 So you mean people fight harder with no hope, or? I dont understand.
@@David-bf2cg Not quite, its the fear that if you should lose, everything you know is gone. That back-against-the-wall mentality makes both officers and men put forth all they have to win.
@@David-bf2cg Not exactly, in Art of the War, it is more descriptive that if you leave the enemy no way to escape and no chance to surrender they will fight even harder until they die. What Sun Tzu means either give them away to retreat or surrender otherwise your troops will fight a desperate enemy. Also don´t Circle your Emeny is a perfect circle leave an opening so the enemy can move over there.
After all, Warfare is not just Weapons, strength, and Skills but also Moral.
To be fair I think if anybody should write a combat story they should read the Art of War, it is a really basic book about warfare.
You guys should do a whole sequel trilogy reimagined.
Didney: Creates a canon that sounds like fan fiction
Templin institute: Turns Star wars in to sci-fi game of thrones.
yet again more proof that we are in the dark timeline T_T
We need to invent a machine that can open portals to other universes... So we can find one where THIS is the story that was told...
If Finn was brought up under this system his fear would be completely justified
Finn would be competent.
"Soldiers deserve Soldiers, I'm gonna kill 'em all, Sir."
as opposed to Stephen Fetchett "WheredaREEEEYYYat yawl?"
@@hellacoorinna9995 WE
WUZ
STORMTROOPERS N SHEEET
These comments aren't stereotypical at all, huh?
@@KuonilerariLoufanwald least racist star wars fan
@@hellacoorinna9995 I thought it'd be cool if Finn was some kind of elite stormtrooper, that way his defection would carry more weight, and they could have scenes of him kicking ass and it would make sense.
This setup could work with the Mandalorian as backstory - the Client with his speeches about the Empires economic achievements seems like a perfect 'First Order' frontman, while Gideon could be the only one in his local remnant who knows the truth of the Sith
That will probably be the intention of linking both the First Order and Sith closer to together
We can dismiss the bad stuff with this new FO but let's keep the good stuff that The Mandalorian gave us.
Win win
@@noellesato311 This is the way.
What about that imperial officer that Mayfeld killed? Maybe he could've adopted the First Order's ideals.
Man, imagine if Finn was actually a competent storm trooper from this order, who joins the "good guys" only because he's seen first hand what a threat the Ashar Karat represent to the to the stability and success of First Order. He joins and fights out of a sense of patriotism to the empire remnant, while constantly calling out the weakness and failures of the New Republic forces and making the case for his side.
DAMN! That would have been actually GOOD!!
Man imagine if this was canon, it’s possible that we could even consider Disney to be good at making Star Wars movies
But it never happened.
Let's start over at The Mandalorian with this version of the First Order. We all good with that? Ok cool. It's canon now.
Time to start tweeting this video to Dave Filoni
well that seems to work
Yup.
@@sethb3090 he'll ruin it given that he doesn't care for any thing that he didn't create himself
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
I mean, that isn’t exactly true. Fliloni may have replaced the old clone wars series and thrown som really strange new things in, but he honestly does strike me as someone who loves the universe and just likes seeing how far he can stretch it
Basing your scenario around the tension between imperial ideology, which while brutal is at least sane and defensible, and the screaming utter evil of the Sith, really helps. It gives room for the sith to be truly ruinous, just like Chaos in 40k.
So like the Grannvale Empire = First Order and the Loptrian Sect = Sith? Guess that makes Julius the Kylo Ren to Manfroy's Snoke or Palpatine. It's a rough analogy though
No no no no, this video is not a reimagining...this is CANON to me now! With this awesome bit of storytelling added as a true backstory to TROS, I can now watch the movie again and not just get pissed. It is a standalone film now. Thank You for this! Now, if I may ask for one for both TFA and TLJ, my journey back to the light will be complete, and the universe will be with me once again!
The entire sequel trilogy is already a reimagining
This is a spectacular reimagining of the First Order. I can already see the potentially great trilogy that could be created with this version of the Order serving as the main antagonistic force.
Honestly this is good. The part when Snoke choose pratcticallity instead of blind faith in the old tradition is my favorite part.
@Greg Elchert And the whispers of Snoke despite all his power having a master of his own works better here. I'd nominate Darth Plageus instead of Palpatine being the puppet master. Give that scene in Revenge Of The Sith even more meaning and in a way serve as his giant middle finger to Palpatine for attempting to kill him.
@Greg Elchert Exactly. I just feel Plageus would be better since he was actually name-dropped in the movies and if you read the novel, he was the one who orchestrated the plan to ultimately turn the Republic into an empire. Palpatine just followed it while making some tweaks and modifications. There's still a visible thread that this man was someone even Palpatine was afraid of.
But "The Son" would work too. Always felt there was more that could've been done with the Mortis mythos. Just anything was better than bringing Palpatine back. I love Ian McDirmid as the character but his talents were wasted in the movie and he arguably gave the best performance.
@@Webshooters1 I’m surprised the institute had tried to be faithful to canon a bit when really they should’ve gone ham on canon and make something that whilst makes sense and fits the universe is completely different from canon.
The reason I say this is because everyone to me seems to think it’s a rule to follow canon to an extent when really it’s not.
@@comentnine1574 I actually got the opposite impression. Despite the Disney Trilogy's utter dumpster fire there are a few nuggets of good story ideas that are frustratingly either left to die on the vine or just not explored in the official canon. I appreciated how the institute took those ideas and spun them into something more interesting and unique which just further embarrasses the people writing these movies when fans can come up with a better, more intimidating version of the First Order than they did.
@@Webshooters1 I guess so.
My biggest gripe with the First Order was that they were supposed to be a remnant of the Empire, not on par or even more powerful than the Empire.
They seemed weaker until the last movie where Palpatine had a fleet out of nowhere.
@@placeholdername3818 They had a death star more powerful than both death stars that came before, and a death star is a construction project that requires an absolutely massive industrial base. In TLJ, they are stated to have conquered the galaxy days, *DAYS* , after their first strike against the Republic. If they're less powerful than the Empire, it's not in any way that is relevant to the story.
@@placeholdername3818 Somehow they had the resources to build Star Killer Base which was shown to be way bigger than even the second Death Star. Then in The Last Jedi, they had that dreadnaught (which got taken out by one bomber oddly...) and then the ridiculously large ship, the Supremacy. And by the 3rd movie, even before the reveal of the Emperor's secret fleet, it seemed indicated the First Order had taken over since the New Republic apparently had their ENTIRE fleet taken out when Star Killer Base took out their seat of govt. So who knows, it seems The First Order fleet was as big as the movies needed it to be in order to seem a threat on par with that of the Empire. Or, it may have just been lazy writing that gave a false impression and I'm just reading too much into it.
A warlord era of Star Wars like in The Mandalorian with some imperials having their own independant planets and the New Republic playing cat and mouse with them would have been way more interesting than the First Order we got. We could have actually seen the unification of those warlords under a new emperor during the films, making the threat of a unified empire after 30 years of independant warlords actually believeable.
I like how you made Palpatine's motivations for creating the First Order based on wanting to eventually re-create the Sith Empire from the times of the Old Republic. I think this makes much more sense given the fact that at the end of the day, Palpatine was a Sith Lord first and the Emperor second. It would make total sense that in the shadows, even after uniting the galaxy under the Empire, that Palpatine would be looking to expand his empire even further and fully transition it into a true Sith Empire. I think this is my new head canon for sure.
Actually, while I enjoy that fanfic… and my head canon could definitely incorporate elements of this version, EU Palpatine and presumably Lucas’ version expressly did not intend to create a new Sith Empire, as his devotion to the Rule of Two was fanatical. He actively trained Dark Side users as assassins, but never intended to train a new Sith generation, even going as far as ceasing Vader’s Sith indoctrination and training, as Anakin’s power had diminished with the ravaging of his body. Palpatine only intended to make Luke a master Sith and eventually be killed by Sith Luke, thereby being succeeded by his true intended heir… (Some stories have Palpatine respecting Luke’s strength and barring victory over him, actively expecting him to succeed Palpatine as Dark Lord of the Sith, where others have him plotting to take over Luke’s body.)
21:35 you had me at "sith legions" and "a new sith empire". Ah, the glory of the ages lost past! The resurgence of the mighty sith empire. It's....beautiful
I mean if you guys started writing Star Wars Fanfiction with this as your baseline I'd totally read it. Bring on the Star Wars Templinverse!
Actually I prefered even more realistic approach. At least let's have Palpatine remained dead !
@@pzg_kami6472 probably would have been better if they wanted Palpatine to come back they would have had him come back as a ghost and influence things from The Shadows kind of like the polar opposite of ghost Yoda I think that's the only way it could have really worked
Who knows maybe him revealing to Be Alive might have worked if they did it better
Regardless of how the story was the visual effect where he did giga Force lightning was pretty cool though just wish the story was as good as it
@@josharmstrong8813 My reluctance for reviving Palpatine is more based on my desire for the franchise to be a bit less cartoonish and fantasy like
I think StarWars fan grown more mature since about 40 years ago so I wish the franhcise could have been matured and thus be more like War and politic themed in Space and galaxy.
With this last trilogy Star Wars became even more meaningless and cartoonish with very lame story. Unlike earlier episodes who seems inspired by some actual historical events like how Roman repulic turned Empie.
@@pzg_kami6472 I just honestly wish at the end of the day like you said did they had a more mature theme to line up with their more mature audience
When I was younger I loved the original Star Wars and I actually kind of like the prequels they've not been the best but they were ok I remember watching Clone Wars when was about 8 or something I love that TV show
The third trilogy just didn't have that special something that was in original, The Clone Wars TV show and even the prequels have that special touch you could just tell it was there
@@josharmstrong8813 to be honest this makes sense, innthe video it said that there are rumors that Snoke is actually answering to someone else. That particular person could be Palps
The thing is, with such a base this could have been easily dragged out until Episode 12 without becoming lame at the halfway point. Imagine Episode 7-9 with the New Republic beginning to investigate the First Order only to find out that there was an entirely newly built Empire by the time Episode 9 comes around, which then commences its attack in the same Episode. Episode 10-12 would then be this gigantic war between the New Republic and the Sith Eternal. They could even implement this gigantic cliffhanger between Episode 9 and 10. Imagine the hype which this would produce and the amount of money this would bring in.
Yeah, such wasted potential. We shall never get something like this, but maybe one day with a new star wars story and build up, we might just yet. Only though if they have the right people on board.
Now if we had this first order fighting the new republic that would have been cool, would have loved to see all the EU NR ships like E and K wings and either the MC90 or nebula SD brought to the big screen but sadly that isn't what we got.
@NatSoc Kaiser you could have those explosions during battles against the pirates funded by the FO. Maybe the pirates could be even the apparent main enemy of eps 7 and 8, with FO rising in the shadow.
I's simple too! They could even go so far as to throw Thrawn in this rendition (giving him a similar backstory as with the Thrawn Trilogy) and we would have a First Order that actually was intimidating and dangerous vs what we got.
Honestly, Filloni and Favreau are the two we know could make the First Order truly fearsome
@@SMiki55 you could also add an arc about Leia recognizing a brewing threat then deciding to create the “Resistance” they you could have a really cool end battle/heist at the ends of episode 7 with her ragtag group stealing a bunch of ships the New Republic was going to decommission to seem more peace loving.
"Hello my name is Darth Prager from the First Order University"
Yeah I can see that
What I find most intriguing, is that almost all of this was already burried somewhere in the source material. You just gave it a compelling story, tied together some loose ends that were made to be connected and gave it personality. If the heroes now take down the first order and the sith eternals, it would be an actual accomplishment, a real triumph.
And there you have the reason for Disney's hired writers on fanfiction level to create such a weak enemy. For the resistence and the new republic to defeat a first order that evolved from the empire, they would have to evolve the concept of the new republic. It's easier to make a weak villain, if you can't think of a good hero.
What I'm now interested in is how you guys would write the new republic (I don't like the resistence theme in this era. The first order already is the small group that opposes a galactic superpower, so the good guys should be the establishment, not a rebellion).
For a battle of ideas, which is a more modern turn on the old good vs evil narrative, we need the new republic to be better than the first order in the crucial point that the story wants to tell us about. Obviously the first Order are still the bad guys, so they have to have a fatal flaw in their logic. Something that costs them the victory in the end. Autocratic millitary dictatorships are still evil after all. Writing them so much better only makes the story interesting, if the concept of what makes our heroes is as sophisticated.
What would the new republic look like and how would they have improved compared to the old republic and the rebel alliance? What would be their defining strength against the first order? Or should this story instead be about the bad guys winning, because the good guys didn't care enough, to give meaning to the old saying "the only way evil wins is for good people to let them act"?
I'd love you guys to take your turn on that aswell, after you did this one so brilliantly. Otherwise this would be the most unbalanced patch in history.
I feel like the weakness that can be exploited is its inside
Turning just a few of those hypercompetent legions rouge and unleashing them on the Asha Karat or however its spelled, which would remove the power Snoke had and then through a surgical strike, eliminate their leaders while they purge the legions
Agreed. I have confidence that the minds that could formulate a threat so credible and so formidable as this version of the First Order, could also conceive of a New Republic worthy of such an adversary. This story just might happen in a fully realized cinematic version someday.
I wonder if it is possible to borrow some concepts from other sci fi like the idea that there are no good or bad factions, only interests
Please that writing was an insult to even some fanfiction writers afterall some of the stories actually get planned in advance and are really good pieces of Media. Also many ff writers don't change course in the middle of the story
Now, this is a worthy successor to the Galactic Empire.
Imagine the old Empire facing down this Empire, Imperial commanders sweating bullets when they start getting torn to shreads by superior tactics, equipment, and competent determined forces that can't simply be overwhelmed by superior numbers
And leading it's most elite legions, he who was never lost, but found wanting. He who only embraced the Empire due to it being the only government capable of saving his world.
The one whose ideology fits so well with The First Order.
Thrawn.....
And leading it's most elite legions, he who was never lost, but found wanting. He who only embraced the Empire due to it being the only government capable of saving his world.
The one whose ideology fits so well with The First Order.
Thrawn.....
@@UNSCPILOT what if in this timeline the new republic has to work with some imperial remnants that don’t agree with the first order to bring them down
@@UNSCPILOT if they both didn’t have the limits of plot armour and the empire had something like this the empire would decimate the first order
You know something isn't right when the most exciting topics to stem from fans around Disney's SW sequel is reimanging what the sequels could have been.
Very well thought out and realistic... which makes it a terrifying threat to the galaxy.
My only input would be to have the rumors of Palpatine’s return remain just that... rumors.
Let Snoke be his own being... an ancient force user that has watched for centuries, amassed great wealth, power and knowledge, all to one day seize the galaxy as his own.
Snoke should be the darkness that called to Sidious from the unknown regions, eventually revealing himself to take the role of caretaker of the Contingency, hiding the extent of his power, knowledge and ability with the force from Sidious, seemingly content to play a subservient role overseeing the project and providing his navigators to help guide the imperial remnent thru the unknown regions.
Snoke, however, would not have played the long game simply to be a pawn. With the Jedi decimated, the Empire in tatters and the New Republic a disorganized shadow of its former greatness... the time is now.
It would be much more interesting to have Snoke be a unique character who has waited, outlasting the great institutions of galactic power to finally take his place as Supreme Ruler of the galaxy. Using the Sith and Imperial remnant to his advantage and ultimately betraying Sidious, Snoke in this form would be the great villain worthy of the final trilogy of the Skywalker saga.
and .ake him be sith.
not power hungry darkside user TRULY sith like luke is truly a jedi.
completely subservient possesed even of the dark side
And at the very end, Snoke, however powerful he is, is still a pawn, a chessboard in the galactic game of chess played by the embodiment of evil and the dark side itself: Jar Jar.
Honestly one of the best reimaginings / reworks / fanfiction of the first order I have seen. Totally using this as my "head cannon" from now on.
Imagine watching/reading a Star Wars scene where a squadron of cocky New Republic troopers (who remember how incompetent imperial stormtroopers were) are sent to investigate and destroy a possible Imperial holdout, only to be blasted apart by a force of EXTREMELY competent Sith Eternal troopers. The tension would mount as the few (now stranded) Republic survivors of the assault would have to find a way to get this news back to the New Republic before they are hunted down and eliminated.
Sounds like an Amazing in between series before 7, but after 6. The Republic Rangers!
@@fumarc4501 with a little flair of Star Trek: Voyager thrown in
*me looks at Disney's first order*: give me a ship, a dc-15A blaster carbine and five good men
*me looks at The Temple Institute's first order*: I've already lost
Agreed, seriously, The Sith Eternal would be genuinely unstoppable with is levels of competency and adaptability.
Worse still, by not ruling through fear, the idea of "if you can't beat them join them" concerningly plausible
@@UNSCPILOT agreed wanderer
Not really, with this give me a full fleet of the new republics modernized star ships from majestics, nebulas, endirances, viscoints, mediators, blue diver carriers along with E and K wings and some modern tanks and infantry and they will have a fight on their hands.
@@delta2372 sir this fight with the temples first order will be a horrific and bloody war... Are you willing to do what must be done. To ensure that the republic stands strong in this moment of darkness.
@@snoopy3558 (I wasn't doing an RP but ok)
Did anyone back ever fail to do what should be done against the mandalorians? against revan, malak and the other ancient sith? if they did then history would be quite different.
Beautifully done, a First Order to be feared, rather than the Disney joke.
...I got legitimate chills and goosebumps listening to this, holy FLIP!!! This whole thing sounds fantastic, I would have loved to have seen a story written around a First Order like this! The care, detail, and realism taken in regards to building it... I love the black and white, good and evil nature of the original trilogy and the Rebellion vs the Empire, wouldn't change a thing, but seeing a much more complex, realistic evil empire like described in this video would have been such a fantastic way to follow it up! Like, here's the simpler version, here's the more internally complex version, and they both would have brought great things to the table without competing directly with each other, since they would scratch completely different itches in regards to a movie-going and viewing experience! 11/10, love it!
This is absolutely a dangerous slide into fanfiction.
As a fanfiction writer, I demand to see more!
What fanfics did you write?
Old first order: A state pretending to be a professional army... Pretending not to be Sith.
This first order: A professional Army pretending to be a state... Pretending to be Sith.
ED: Oh god I love these ideas! The Supremacy being a mobile FOB makes so much more sense!
So... Prussia but turned up to the max
@@windoverwaves6781 Also early Switzerland before they got into banking. Swiss history is one of those crazy stories that would have a fantasy writer basing their book series off of it derided as a hack.
But, wasn't the Supremacy already a mobile FOB in TLJ? Like for real, it could hold an entire Resurgent class star destroyer for repairs and enough ground forces for any kind of, well, ground assault. In fact, isn't every star destroyer in star wars a form of FOB? As they just put them above planets and just keep sending troops down to the planet until it's conquered? That's how I've seen it at least.
While I actually like the original and the sequel trilogy itself, this version seems more promising… it is more organized
I would sign a petition to rewrite everything or maybe just details like this
“For without order there is no peace, join now”
I'm late to the party and most things have already been said by others so I'll keep it brief. You set out to make a more effective, interesting, and intimidating first order and you hit 10/10 on every point. It must be said that making the framework is a lot easier than making the movies (As a writer who for more than 2 years has struggled to turn a framework into a story, let me tell you, I'd know), but since the main problem of the movies was the lack of a framework, this is clearly a massive improvement, and any movie built within this frame would have stood a much better chance of succeeding. You did an amazing job as I was intrigued throughout it all, felt a genuine sense of dread fall over me, and my mind raced to imagine the movies that could have come out of this. 10/10
There is a good piece of fanfiction called “The Reclaimer” that does a good job of reworking the FO
I have seen that and it is great and my only complaint is kylo ren x oc, but everything else is great.
Link?
@@meinraddreizacker5845 I don’t know if it is blocked but I’ll try
The title makes it sounds like a Halo fanfiction.
@@tronmaster5704 lol
This. This version of the First Order and Sith Eternal will forever be my personal head canon.
I love the idea of the Named Legions.
It kind of hearkens back to the Clone Wars, where some of the clone legions were named, such as the Star Corps, the Galactic Marines, and the Wolfpack!
You had me at "This was their first order." Chills.
The best part is it still refrences the extended universe and works as good fan service, instead of it just literally reusing old stuff in the most hamfisted manner.
Concept show: A crime show esque set after the fall of the empire with New Republic investigators looking into former Imperial officers, leaders and warlords etc. Throughout the show it all hints towards the First Order and maybe even shows it a little
Star Wars Neo-Noir...I'm in.
It makes me want to cry knowing that this is far better than anything we’re ever likely to see from Disney Star Wars
This truly feels like a looming evil just waiting to snap it’s jaws on the galaxy, instead Disney gave us Empire v2
I fancy how you were able to keep most of the canonical base-line elements of the official First Order and than expand upon them in an in-depth and refined manner to make them simultaneously more grounded yet more powerful. It helps that you have taken to design a full idea from the start rather add small parts over long periods, but that doesn't lessen the accomplishments of this.
If you plan doing any Reimaginings in the future, I for one will very much be looking forward to them. _"The force shall set me free."_
You managed to make me excited about a sequel trilogy that will never happen. I am simultaneously impressed and saddened. What you've created is brilliant.
Episode 6 was the ending of the skywalker saga 7,8,9 are just over budgeted fan films but the fans who made them are idiots
@@sheevpalpatine7056 but the "Fans" who made them are Idiots and not Fans at all
never happen? Just wait for GPT-5 to come out and it'll spit out a trilogy about this one for you
Every time I think about the amount of wasted potential it makes me mad and sad. They could have had many interesting battles in a second galactic civil war with this first order and the new republic. Think about all the characters and worlds they could have introduced
As cool as the Templin concept is, Disney would never have gone for it. They bought Star Wars to sell toys to kids, not make a good story. The sequel trilogy actually make sense with that in mind.
Copy, paste and edit the original trilogy to sell plastic tat, profit. Way easier than writing something interesting.
I'm not too harsh on the sequel trilogy, because as long as you don't think too hard, there are worse ways to spent a couple of hours than watching one of those films.
But I would prefer the concept presented in this video. It's well thought out, and makes the First Order a competent threat without going, "Hu, hu, ha. Big space laser goes boom".
This version of the First Order is genuinely terrifying, and is remarkably similar to what I had in mind for a fanfic, hopefully youse will do an episode on a revision of Luke's New Jedi Order
I simply cannot fathom how much better this is than what was created by Disney. So much care and thought is given here to realistically create a villain out of the ashes of the Empire. Well done!
The renaming "Supremacy-Class" made me cry tears of joy
Mega-Class star Destroyer is so dumb. Just make it the Supremacy Class, with the first of its kind named Supremacy. It's already been done with things like the Donnager.
@@g.williams2047 it's not a new stupidity, low long was the Executer a Super-class stardestroyer, before people with a clue on now naval naming works got it changed.
@@MarkoDash iirc it was Executor-class Super Star Destroyer
@@g.williams2047 also the UNSC Infinity
@@pranavghantasala6808 I don't know much about Halo, but it always makes sense to have the first ship of the class be named after the class.
The division of the First Order/Sith Eternal lets the sith be a terrifying force that just wants death and ruination, just like chaos, with the first order as it's instrument. This is how it should have been.
Yep, the more evil, negative emotions and death are in the galaxy, the stronger the Dark Side is, which in turn means stronger Sith.
it's honestly kind of sad that one singular person made an entirely new and BETTER story than the worlds largest multi trillion dollar entertainment company ever could.
this was amazing! i hope that StarWarsTheory has seen this, as he would've LOVED this in it's entirety!
That was absolutely phenomenal work. The script is awesome, the story is plausible and the great art just compliments it all so well, making a 30 minute video feel like a cool 5 minutes. Well done!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.
Lets go. This will be good. The first order had potential like many things in the disney trilogy.
i know the worst thing about the new trilogy is the wasted potential
They should reimagine the entire prequel trilogy next...
@@philcorrigan5641 I mean the prequels had issues I admit, but overtime and clone wars it got better.
Honestly I thought Rouge One was excellent, an unironically good prequel film.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I like that one too
This version of the First Order is much more insidious than the one in cannon. They're actually everywhere and you can't escape them.
Edit: Holy Cow! Over a 1,000 likes?! Wow thanks internet people
And on top of it, it works as a way to explore modern politics, given that the Sequels came out amidst a resurgence of right-wing nationalism and the populist candidates who egged them on.
@@jimmyseaver3647 also it shows fake News and why misinformation and historical revisionism is a danger to every state like the lost cause myth, holocaust deniers and people who think the British empire helped it's colonies devolope ...
THIS is an empire that could conceivably topple the New Republic in less than a day.
@@bluebonic3497 to be fair the new republic didn't had an actual army
They have everything they need for the Day.
I like the idea of the emperor/chancellor starting to build up stuff in the unknown regions as well as look for dark side stuff out there. It also offers a good reason for the outbound flight to be destroyed in canon
I don't fault you for your "fan fiction" - this version was incredible. I've wanted to do a fan rewrite of the Sequels for a long time, but it just feels like a waste of time since
1. You can't get any money, thanks to Didnee
2. It would make more sense (and be better received) as a full story in some other setting. That way, no homebrew ;)
Damn this is cool. You guys accomplished in 30 minutes what Disney failed to in 10 years.
Disney had all laid out for them - and discarded it.
This actually reminds me a lot of how SWTOR's Sith Empire was formed. Survivors and fanatics from the Great Hyperspace War escaping to the Unknown Regions to regroup and rearm on a forgotten Sith homeworld for an eventual retaking of the galaxy. All while infiltrators, paid-off politicians and paramilitaries sowed friction with the Republic and eventually had loyalists ready to jump in on the day of attack.
Even the internal Sith Eternal veneration of the Sith and its history and how it makes them butt heads with other secular government factions and armed forces fits them.
Granted, the SWTOR Sith Empire was also behind a proxy war between the Republic and the Mandalorians to better distract them, which ain't something I'm sure the First Order could do.
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
Thank you...I was going to mention TOR's backstory. And guess what? Lucasfilm, and by extension Disney, OWNED it already...all they needed to do was tweak the story a bit and it could've been history repeating, and done well people would've enjoyed it.
Well this First Order did create/hire criminal groups, I guess that would be its Mandalorian equivelent. Though I am thinking unlike the Mandalorians who became allies of the Sith Empire these criminal groups would or they would want to, but who knows create a pirate fleet to attack the New Republic.
The more things change the more things stay the same
@Samuel Dimmock an evolved version of Vitiate's Sith Empire (Darth Malgus tried) with more humane laws and beliefs would have been unstoppable...
Disney: Oh no, we couldn't make a good story in a span of a decade
Some nerd on youtube: *insert palpatine laughter*
Amazing re-imagining. I think there are way more "hard sci-fi" fans out there who would like to give Star Wars a deeper meaning. One day I hope to see this on the big screen.
Disney will never learn that we became star wars fan because of (mostly at least) THE LORE, not the bloody action and humor. Imagine the support disney star wars would have if they had this masterpiece or something similar.
Wait, we were fans because of the lore? *laugh* Oh, you're serious.
@@KarlfMjolnir so youre for the action or something? I mean its okay, but us more larger fans eat lore for breakfast.
@@luxinvictus9018 if only disney knew how to manage star wars 😑
George Lucas had this mistaken belief, and you saw how that turned out with the prequels.
What you say might be true for a small group of highly obsessed fans, but the vast majority of people liked it as a cool space adventure film with relatable characters.
Hmm perhaps. But we can all collectively agree that Rey is a Mary Sue
Disney: Fucks up the lore*
Templine institute: *snorts space coke* NOW THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR ME
Lol
We call them *"spices,"* you Nerf Herder.
I breed nerf guns
Space coke sounds like a mix between coke and mushrooms haha
*snorts some Bacta
Fascinating, and enormously well-detailed, but I was hoping rather than purely an exploration of hypothetical lore you would also offer a vision of the First Order which could have plausibly manifested in a screenplay.
I don’t comment on TH-cam much but I have to say, this is the First Order I wish we got. This video was very epic and well thought out from beginning to end. Fantastic job
Now this is the First Order we could’ve gotten in the Sequel Trilogy! Make it smarter and deadlier than the Galactic Empire. Good job, Templin Institute! 👍
Space Prussen Gloria plays in the distance.
Stormtroopers goose-stepping to this would be quite the interesting sight.
Guten tag
Space Westerwald intensifies
@@kaiser413 imagine losing to the French 50 years after you defeated them diminishing French Hegemony and their military reputation and in the process becoming a United Germany
In my head canon I see the First Order being given the strict order to purge nav computers and droids of routes back to the Sith Capital. They must stay in charted space until the war is won. Also rare Sith Eternal priest ships have the coordinates in their computers making them a rare target for capture by the New Republic.