Or you know...He could have not wiped out Monarchia and let the bald Priest continue to do his bidding...Then that bitch made Erebus wouldnt have no affect on Lorgar in the first place....Also, Goes without saying.... F EREBUS.
@@Heatx79 That was just a pretext, thought up by imperial propagandists at the conclusion of the heresy, so mortals like us wouldn't learn of the emperor's *true* betrayal.
"Strange is it not, that so many I wish beside me stand against me, while at my back are only the flawed and damaged. I am a master of broken monsters."- Horus at Istvaan III
@Alsonallu Correction. One of the only few Traitor Primarchs that carried the whole Heresy besides Horus was Perturabo, who still had his act together unlike his other kin. Without Petty, I doubt the Traitors would even had the chance to get the Imperials backed up all the way to Terra!
I can't remember which book it is but at one point Fulgrim shows up with a giant / debauch / sex parade and everyone else is just face palming. Its fairly awesome.
_"[...] Chief amongst the primarchs is Horus, called the Glorious, the Brightest Star, favourite of the Emperor, and like a son unto him. He is the Warmaster, the commander-in-chief of the Emperor's military might, subjugator of a thousand thousand worlds and conqueror of the galaxy. He is a warrior without peer, a diplomat supreme. Horus is a star ascendant, but how far can a star rise before it falls?"_
I think people miss that deep deep down Horus' ultimate motivation for everything post betrayal no matter what he tells himself or others is the same as his son Abaddon in the current setting. They snapped, and now they want to burn it all down.
Horus was a true Hero of the Imperium and he was beloved not just by the Emperor or his brothers or his sons, but by all of humanity and his fall is a reminder of the foul corruption of the Dark Gods.
'Let the galaxy BURN!' The most famous quote from my genefather...he was my favourite villain and character of warhammer 40k😢...there are a lot of epic quotes from him but this one is the true classic. Thanks Remembrancer, For The Warmaster!
The pre heresy books were so much fun to read. Humanity united, enemies all over. Only glory and conquest for the imperium. But the brightest candles burn out the quickest.
Your videos are epic. As someone who played 40k in his teen years these videos help me reimagine and remember the hobby I was once fixated with. Thank you Remembrancer
For a lot of people in 40k, Horus was one of the most handsome human male the known universe knew, with the exception of Sanguinius (on the account of being the figurative and sometimes literal ANGEL OF LIGHT, with magnificent, not to mention impeccable, hair) and Fulgrim (because I WANNA BE COOL AND PRETTY LIKE DADDY, OKAY!?). Fact is, for the Imperium, a Man such as he, with impeccable manners and yet tamed ferocity, was one of the most beautiful thing. People did not see him as bald, or shaven, or take notice of his implant. He was just handsome. Meanwhile, us: HE'S BALD, HE'S TOO BIG, HE LOOKS BARBARIAN, OR FUCKED UP, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?
Guilaman and the others saw him. Horor and jubilation saw there faces....he was alive...how was he alive?! Standing before them was no doubt him. He had very short hair,tall as a primarch,he wore ganger armor mixed with parts of white power armor. It was no mistake...the luna wolf would break the silence, looking down at everything,refusing to face his brothers. "...im sorry im here now...the sight is cruel." Fulgrim has tears surprisingly go down his cheeks...everyone was shocked to the core... guilaman gripped the sword tightly in rage. "It was the emporors doing,wasnt it..." Everyone looked at guilaman,then to horus. He nodded. "Yes...he saved me...for all i did,he saved...me..." Horuses voice broke as he spoke of the emporor saving what little of his soul was left. Dante was silent the entire time. The archtraitor stood again,redeemed...but broken...as horus looked at the group,he then noticed the lord. "Who is he?" Asked the former warmaster. "This is commander dante. The chapter master of the blood angels." Spoke the lion. Horus looked at the angels inheritor and nodded. "You deserve better of this galaxy then milenia of suffering and a dead primarch." Fulgrim smiled "Its a miracle the emporor forgave you,its good to see you horus." Horus looked at fulgrim,his small smile turned dark. "This isnt forgiveness fulgrim. Father did not give me a 2nd life in forgiveness. He wants me to repent. I will never forgive myself or erebus for what i did. Trillions murdered. Atrocitys uncounted. Brothers dammed and broken. I should be forgotten." It was then magnus slapped horus. "Is this really what you think brother? Many of us have changed. I have sought redemption. Fulgrim found redemption. many of us sought redemption for our sins and weve learned to let go. Even after a new life with all that happened,are you that incapable of living with your mistakes?" Spoke the redeemed crimson king. Horus looked to everyone and nodded. "...your right. ...if youll have me,then i will help...but 1st...we need to find loken...and end his hunt..." To be continued
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so for the last like 3 weeks I've really, like REALLY, got into warhammer. It feels like I've almost always known what it was (seeing it in stores, video games, etc.), but as someone who loves military tactics and realism, I thought warhammer looked too silly. But on a whim I started to dig into the lore and learned warhammer is the best kept secret of military historians! haha. this IP is chalked full of so many historical homages, reinterpretations, and easter eggs its fantastic. I've gone from mostly disliking, to hovering over the checkout button with 300$ worth of plastic and paint ready to go. God dammit. The best part though, is during all this Warhammer binging, I haven't watched the news once. I feel great!
I'm still not convinced that the Big E "held back out of love for his son." The Emperor had been spending lavishly of his reserves of strength since the beginning of the Heresy. Even for the strongest human psyker ever to exist, 7 years of constant effort and pressure takes a toll. I'm convinced that the flaying of Ollanius Pius temporarily lowered the defenses of the Warmaster, the gap in his focus allowing the Emperor to strike down his once favorite son. (Still haven't finished the Siege of Terra, could be completely wrong.)
If Maggie the Red hadn't breached the friggin Webway with his attempt at a psychic communique with his Dad, then the Emperor might have had a better chance at surviving his fight with Horus without having to be put on life support in the Golden Throne afterwards. I know, a lot of speculation on what could have been if one thing or another might have gone right instead of wrong -- Hairy Boss being a hairy tick, Angronius not landing on that damned planet in the first place, Magnus not letting his psyker abilities literally run away with his head, Lorgar Aurelian not penning the Lectitio Divinitatus, et cetera -- but this one stands out most glaringly here.
Man they need a perfect clone of Horus (such as the perfect copy of Corvus In the stasis library) One who is not swayed by chaos, who learned from the mistakes of his previous self , him being the one to dawn a new forge of his fathers armor and slaying all avatars of chaos , A dream
In "The end and the death" Horus is nothing more than a puppet, thinking Maloghurst and Sejanus are alive, thinking that the Mournival is still alive and kicking, mixing regret with ambition, it's real tragic. And when the Emperor get's mad in the Vengeful Spirit and screams that He is coming for him, he shits bricks and knows fear.
Ive been watching these videos for almost a year now and I just noticed that why would you wear all that heavy armor but have your head exposed the one thing that you should probably protect the most idk just saying
I don't think Horus was a failure. The Emperor is basically dead because of him, it's just up to the traitor legions to finish what he started. The problem would be uniting them all under one cause
Funny that you didn't mention Molech During the Horus Heresy, the planet was the site of a major invasion by the Sons of Horus and the Death Guard, led by Horus Lupercal and Mortarion, as Horus had regained his memory of the gateway and sought to obtain the same powers the Emperor had attained. The planet was conquered by traitor forces after House Devine turned rogue, with only a hundred survivors from the planet escaping. Later after Horus' defeat, Molech was liberated during the Great Scouring.
I am reading the first book, and what's sad is knowing what he becomes. Because he seemed like a caring primarch for his chapter, and most of his brothers loved him. So, for the loyal wolves who decided not to join him, it must have felt so painful. It is almost similar to seeing your best friend become a drug addict, but he's so far gone, the is nothing you can do to help him. 😢 Defo recommend listening or reading the books to get a feel for what the chapter went through. I look forward to reading the second and third. Wolves, emperors, children, and salamanders are my favorite, but Aragon also has a sad story. The more I think about it. I understand why most of the chapters went with horus and against humanity. But I AM LOYALIST, SO ALLOW ME TO END YOUR SUFFERING, BROTHERS. SO WE MAY REMEMBER YOU. FOR WHAT YOU WERE AND FOR NOT WHAT YOU'VE BECOME. FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Wait......is this RetCon? What about the Emperor almost being choked out out Ulanor, and the being saved by Horus? Or was that another battle somewhere else? I remember reading that.
...what if Sanguinius had just _waited_ for the Emperor instead of going for Horus right away? Both of them vs Horus--even a bloated, Chaos-amped Horus--sounds like a more even fight that the Big E might have walked away from.
Horus's armor looks ridiculous! It looks like someone threw that wolf pelt up on his back and he can't reach it so he's just like "eh whatever"....and left it up there!! 😂
How many people out there think that the alpha legion had three primarchs. I think they were triplets instead of twins . They have three heads on every dragon. I think all three might be alive.
Wouldn't it be cool if Horus said to Sanguinius during their confrontation - You know brother, even now, i still kept my promise. The promise to not reveal the Angel's genetic flaw.
Mind controlled is a... term, yes. Part of him, however, *was* very angry at the Emperor, at his secrets and his hidden agenda. From my understanding, the Chaos Gods have a very hard time MAKING people do things, people just tend to fall regardless of their input However, they might have sped up the process through their agents. The Ruinous Powers do not have a concept of time, so they don't really care, since they have ALREADY seen the end, which was what the Emperor (according to those close to him) was attempting to avert. Also, Erebus. Fucking Erebus. Idiot thinks the Ruinous Powers need him. The Warp will devour the materium, they don't need him, never did, never will, he needs *them*. One would think that Lorgar, for all his faults, would have bashed his head in for causing the fall of Horus through machinations. Lorgar hated manipulation, he wanted people to see the Truth and worship to their heart's content. Though he could teach you the truth throw a strong mace to the face. That's not out of the question.
He was not mind controlled. He was jealous. His crimes were founded in envy, doubt and arrogance. Just like Satan. He's an obvious analogue of Lucifer.
He was influenced why the caos damage and hi conditions and Hagency was corrupted by them too when them explain their version of the story. Horus believe he was choice with his mind but when the emperor hit him he realise he never have the control of his life
"The galaxy itself seemed to mourn, trembling under the weight of such betrayal. Planets burned, and bled their celestial sorrows as brother turned against brother, idealism consumed by the very shadows they had once sought to vanquish. In this cosmic betrayal, the heavens themselves wept tears of fire, stars dying in silent agony as they witnessed the unraveling of Mankind’s greatest endeavor. It was a rebellion crafted not of flesh, but of shattered ideals, of broken faith - a war that took not only trillion lives but the essence of humanity’s dream. Horus, now the Archtraitor, the Warmaster of the Ruinous Powers, became the scythe in the reaper's hand, cleaving the Imperium asunder in a cataclysmic harvest of souls. His betrayal was the bell toll that heralded an age of darkness; his every command, a litany of despair; his once-valiant legions, the clanging chains that would enslave worlds to the whims of Chaos."
Horus: Who shall I trust, Magnus, because he is a brother primarch, or Erebus whom I know is lying to me? I guess I will trust Erebus. I am certain he is a real swell guy deep down with the best of intentions.🤣
Hmm, I wonder if the scattering of the primarchs was due to the emperors experiments with the webway and not by the ruinous powers? When you are the one writing history, propaganda can be used to deflect opinion.
No surprise (after a brief tantrum) Dorn ...he knew the arrogance of Horus. Angron and night haunter had the greatest reasons to rebel. Lorgar and Perty to a lesser content. E played his sons against as eachoer that's à fact
The position of war master should have been spit into a dual role like the Roman consulship. One Primarch overseeing military affairs while the other deals with diplomacy Horus and the lion or Gulliman would have been a perfect combination for the roles and help take the pressure off Horus and sooth any resentment
If henry cavill gets to make the show, and thats what the show is about, i think henry should be the warmaster. Horus is described as incredibly charming, charismatic, and likable amongst his brother primarchs. And since people in real life like him itd make sense to me to pit him against the emperor eventually
Gotta go for Tom Hardy He is VERY charismatic But capable of playing a brutal savage, embodying Horus' Cthonian heritage and eventually his fall to Chaos Id have to agree witb Cavill as Sanguinius or another loyalist, hes too good looking and with more "Noble" like features and demeanor for the Great Lupercal
Which Primarchs look most like the Emperor? Off the top of my head, I'd say Corvus and Conrad. And not just because of the hair but the nose and mouth too. Did Urda's or Amar's genes also get involved? I don't actually know anything about them apart from them playing some role in their creation.
After having read how the Emperor is portrayed in the Horus Heresy, and seeing his power compared to Horus', I cannot believe that the Emperor held back in the least when fighting Horus. It is most likely that Horus was simply that powerful, and he was barely able to defeat him.
What happened to the original lore where the Emperor of Mankind teleported into the heart of the battle with his 10 thousand to turn the tide and save Horus. The Emperor would cut down the Ork Warlord and in seconds 100,000 orbs would be slain with only 3 Custodes perishing, thier names immortalised inscribed on the Emperor’s armour.
What does your voice sound like without being cleaned up????? Your understanding of cadence and English language is wonderful but your oration has a great tempo and focus
Ironic is it not? Many claim that it is Emperor Palpatine is the most powerful villain in all of pop culture. But now look to Warhammer 40k, and suddenly the Emperor of the Galactic Empire would only find he is an ant among Demi Gods, and the ruinous powers of Chaos. Better start wearing you Depends now Emperor Palpy. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is what should be pushed in 40k . Choas won . The attack on earth was to save Horus . An if lucky finish emperor. Chas won because it is free into the galaxy . An nothing stops it . An thats all choas wanted.
Do you think Horus would never have fallen to chaos if it weren't for that nightmare infused coma? Meaning did he had the strength and spirit to not be corrupted if he was healthy? I loved learning more about Horus I never knew how much of a loser he was and his traitor legions, he had to send the ultramarines, blood angels and dark angels to bumfuck nowhere to be able to attack terra and at his back he only had monsters, psychopaths, degenerates and rejects
If the Emperor honerer be thy name had just told Horis what he was doing, and had a heart to heart with his son about all he waa going through maybe Horus wouldnt have fallen. The Emporor honered be thy bame was holly beyond all the imaginations of mankind made manifest...but wasnt a good daddy.
If The Emperor had made horus immune to male pattern baldness none of this wouldve happened.
You’re totally right. Male pattern baldness was the reason I also surrendered to chaos.
They didn’t give me my hair back though.
Or you know...He could have not wiped out Monarchia and let the bald Priest continue to do his bidding...Then that bitch made Erebus wouldnt have no affect on Lorgar in the first place....Also, Goes without saying.... F EREBUS.
Think if he also didn’t openly lie to the subjects he wanted to pretend he loved as his own offspring would have helped also.
@@Heatx79 That was just a pretext, thought up by imperial propagandists at the conclusion of the heresy, so mortals like us wouldn't learn of the emperor's *true* betrayal.
😂😂
I'll never forget the end of the Horus Heresy, where the wounded Emperor turned to Horus and said "Horus Lupercal, you truly are the Warhammer 40,000"
I mean his name was Horus Heresy, how did the Emperor miss that
What is an origin of that copypasta?
then he grimdarked all over the place
It’s not about the end of the book, it’s about the heretics we’ve made along the way.
i personally really enjoyed the part where the emporor's true form was revealed to just be a big grape, what a twist!
"Strange is it not, that so many I wish beside me stand against me, while at my back are only the flawed and damaged. I am a master of broken monsters."- Horus at Istvaan III
@Alsonallu Correction.
One of the only few Traitor Primarchs that carried the whole Heresy besides Horus was Perturabo, who still had his act together unlike his other kin.
Without Petty, I doubt the Traitors would even had the chance to get the Imperials backed up all the way to Terra!
Wow , amazing quotes !
@@CTC41392 mortarion was definitely pulling his weight
@@CTC41392fact, perty carried the traitors.
I can't remember which book it is but at one point Fulgrim shows up with a giant / debauch / sex parade and everyone else is just face palming. Its fairly awesome.
People argue that the Emperor didn’t foresee the traitors but he literally named his favorite son “Horus Heresy”.
Ikr for a supposed super genius, it really didn't bother him that half the legions had "traitor legion" in their name?
Smh
@@Storiaron remember, he was so focused on finding all 40,000 warhammers, so he probably just overlooked it
Wasn't his actual name Horus Leprechaun?
_"[...] Chief amongst the primarchs is Horus, called the Glorious, the Brightest Star, favourite of the Emperor, and like a son unto him. He is the Warmaster, the commander-in-chief of the Emperor's military might, subjugator of a thousand thousand worlds and conqueror of the galaxy. He is a warrior without peer, a diplomat supreme. Horus is a star ascendant, but how far can a star rise before it falls?"_
If only Horus put two and two together when he realized that all his lame brothers sided with him and all the chads were against him
I think people miss that deep deep down Horus' ultimate motivation for everything post betrayal no matter what he tells himself or others is the same as his son Abaddon in the current setting. They snapped, and now they want to burn it all down.
Horus was a true Hero of the Imperium and he was beloved not just by the Emperor or his brothers or his sons, but by all of humanity and his fall is a reminder of the foul corruption of the Dark Gods.
*THANK YOU BROTHER.*
Horus is and was a b***h
@@Horus-Lupercal
Im currently building an army in your name.
@@noisemarine561 *HOW LOUD ARE THEY?*
@@Horus-Lupercal
They are sons of horus, so they'll be burning the galaxy alongside their opponents.
Emperor : FUCKING HORUS. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY FABULOUS HAWK BOY!!!! YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IT WITH ROBOT GIL
Robot greatest primarch
@@thormoney It's The Hawk Boy or The Lion!!!
Screw the Space Wolves and Smurfs!!
Sanguinius was a poofer.
F*ck Erebus.
Fuck Erebus, indeed!
'Let the galaxy BURN!' The most famous quote from my genefather...he was my favourite villain and character of warhammer 40k😢...there are a lot of epic quotes from him but this one is the true classic. Thanks Remembrancer, For The Warmaster!
@Abe Froman thanks!😅
The galaxy"sniff,sniff... something is burning"!!!
The pre heresy books were so much fun to read. Humanity united, enemies all over. Only glory and conquest for the imperium. But the brightest candles burn out the quickest.
Yes, all that lovely, inspiring persecution and genocide...good times!
@@etinarcadiaego7424 it was based
@@etinarcadiaego7424 it was great for humanity
Just like smoking meth 😞
Listening to the rise of Horus again. Loved the times before the fall 😔
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For a lot of people in 40k, Horus was one of the most handsome human male the known universe knew, with the exception of Sanguinius (on the account of being the figurative and sometimes literal ANGEL OF LIGHT, with magnificent, not to mention impeccable, hair) and Fulgrim (because I WANNA BE COOL AND PRETTY LIKE DADDY, OKAY!?).
Fact is, for the Imperium, a Man such as he, with impeccable manners and yet tamed ferocity, was one of the most beautiful thing. People did not see him as bald, or shaven, or take notice of his implant. He was just handsome.
Meanwhile, us: HE'S BALD, HE'S TOO BIG, HE LOOKS BARBARIAN, OR FUCKED UP, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?
Nah uncorrupt horus is alright
Guilaman and the others saw him. Horor and jubilation saw there faces....he was alive...how was he alive?! Standing before them was no doubt him. He had very short hair,tall as a primarch,he wore ganger armor mixed with parts of white power armor. It was no mistake...the luna wolf would break the silence, looking down at everything,refusing to face his brothers.
"...im sorry im here now...the sight is cruel."
Fulgrim has tears surprisingly go down his cheeks...everyone was shocked to the core... guilaman gripped the sword tightly in rage.
"It was the emporors doing,wasnt it..."
Everyone looked at guilaman,then to horus. He nodded.
"Yes...he saved me...for all i did,he saved...me..." Horuses voice broke as he spoke of the emporor saving what little of his soul was left. Dante was silent the entire time. The archtraitor stood again,redeemed...but broken...as horus looked at the group,he then noticed the lord.
"Who is he?" Asked the former warmaster.
"This is commander dante. The chapter master of the blood angels." Spoke the lion.
Horus looked at the angels inheritor and nodded.
"You deserve better of this galaxy then milenia of suffering and a dead primarch."
Fulgrim smiled
"Its a miracle the emporor forgave you,its good to see you horus."
Horus looked at fulgrim,his small smile turned dark.
"This isnt forgiveness fulgrim. Father did not give me a 2nd life in forgiveness. He wants me to repent. I will never forgive myself or erebus for what i did. Trillions murdered. Atrocitys uncounted. Brothers dammed and broken. I should be forgotten."
It was then magnus slapped horus.
"Is this really what you think brother? Many of us have changed. I have sought redemption. Fulgrim found redemption. many of us sought redemption for our sins and weve learned to let go. Even after a new life with all that happened,are you that incapable of living with your mistakes?" Spoke the redeemed crimson king.
Horus looked to everyone and nodded.
"...your right. ...if youll have me,then i will help...but 1st...we need to find loken...and end his hunt..."
To be continued
hmm this will need a bit of revision now after End and the Death 3
We need more Pre-Heresy 30k stories!
Great works! The elucidation of the grim darkness lore has sated my hunger for knowledge on the empirium of man.
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Ollanius Pius needed a power lifter to carry the massive Adamantium balls he needed to stare down Horus.
so for the last like 3 weeks I've really, like REALLY, got into warhammer. It feels like I've almost always known what it was (seeing it in stores, video games, etc.), but as someone who loves military tactics and realism, I thought warhammer looked too silly. But on a whim I started to dig into the lore and learned warhammer is the best kept secret of military historians! haha. this IP is chalked full of so many historical homages, reinterpretations, and easter eggs its fantastic. I've gone from mostly disliking, to hovering over the checkout button with 300$ worth of plastic and paint ready to go. God dammit.
The best part though, is during all this Warhammer binging, I haven't watched the news once. I feel great!
I had no idea Horus GOT CLEANSED and still stayed evil.
Holy shit. That makes it so much worse
I'm still not convinced that the Big E "held back out of love for his son." The Emperor had been spending lavishly of his reserves of strength since the beginning of the Heresy. Even for the strongest human psyker ever to exist, 7 years of constant effort and pressure takes a toll.
I'm convinced that the flaying of Ollanius Pius temporarily lowered the defenses of the Warmaster, the gap in his focus allowing the Emperor to strike down his once favorite son.
(Still haven't finished the Siege of Terra, could be completely wrong.)
Very well made video of Horus, I rarely see videos on him. These videos while short, are very informative.
Great character in a great character driven story..great channel amazing oratory
If Maggie the Red hadn't breached the friggin Webway with his attempt at a psychic communique with his Dad, then the Emperor might have had a better chance at surviving his fight with Horus without having to be put on life support in the Golden Throne afterwards.
I know, a lot of speculation on what could have been if one thing or another might have gone right instead of wrong -- Hairy Boss being a hairy tick, Angronius not landing on that damned planet in the first place, Magnus not letting his psyker abilities literally run away with his head, Lorgar Aurelian not penning the Lectitio Divinitatus, et cetera -- but this one stands out most glaringly here.
If E hadn’t sent the immature Russ to “censure” Magnus, Magnus would never have gone traitor.
@@darko-man8549If E had just spent some freakin' time explaining things to his son what was going on, all of this could have been prevented.
I feel so bad for magnus I feel his intentions were so pure and heart warmingly genuine that it messed him up mentally
Wow this one was really good. Your pronunciations and impact words were sublime. This was a treat to listen too!
9:58 How could this happen to Joe Rogan 😢
Perfect example of history being written by the victorious. Horus did nothin wrong!
ah yes, the big one. Remember kids, Horus Lupercal is mega dead and not even what I'm smokin can wake him up.
Man they need a perfect clone of Horus (such as the perfect copy of Corvus In the stasis library)
One who is not swayed by chaos, who learned from the mistakes of his previous self , him being the one to dawn a new forge of his fathers armor and slaying all avatars of chaos ,
A dream
In "The end and the death" Horus is nothing more than a puppet, thinking Maloghurst and Sejanus are alive, thinking that the Mournival is still alive and kicking, mixing regret with ambition, it's real tragic.
And when the Emperor get's mad in the Vengeful Spirit and screams that He is coming for him, he shits bricks and knows fear.
Ive been watching these videos for almost a year now and I just noticed that why would you wear all that heavy armor but have your head exposed the one thing that you should probably protect the most idk just saying
I don't think Horus was a failure. The Emperor is basically dead because of him, it's just up to the traitor legions to finish what he started. The problem would be uniting them all under one cause
Horous sucks idk why the books put an emphasis on his physical appearance like bro you look like a star craft marine standard issue
I feel so bad for dadperor imagine your best boy your number one, the pain he felt fighting his son must have been horrific 😢
the Dreaded WarMaster.. the sacrificial King... Horus Lupercal
Horus heresy is my favorite Joe Rogan guest.
Serjanus died at the perfect time, I would’ve cried knowing what would’ve become of Horus If I were him
Funny that you didn't mention Molech
During the Horus Heresy, the planet was the site of a major invasion by the Sons of Horus and the Death Guard, led by Horus Lupercal and Mortarion, as Horus had regained his memory of the gateway and sought to obtain the same powers the Emperor had attained. The planet was conquered by traitor forces after House Devine turned rogue, with only a hundred survivors from the planet escaping. Later after Horus' defeat, Molech was liberated during the Great Scouring.
I am reading the first book, and what's sad is knowing what he becomes. Because he seemed like a caring primarch for his chapter, and most of his brothers loved him. So, for the loyal wolves who decided not to join him, it must have felt so painful. It is almost similar to seeing your best friend become a drug addict, but he's so far gone, the is nothing you can do to help him. 😢 Defo recommend listening or reading the books to get a feel for what the chapter went through. I look forward to reading the second and third.
Wolves, emperors, children, and salamanders are my favorite, but Aragon also has a sad story. The more I think about it. I understand why most of the chapters went with horus and against humanity. But I AM LOYALIST, SO ALLOW ME TO END YOUR SUFFERING, BROTHERS. SO WE MAY REMEMBER YOU. FOR WHAT YOU WERE AND FOR NOT WHAT YOU'VE BECOME. FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Wait......is this RetCon? What about the Emperor almost being choked out out Ulanor, and the being saved by Horus? Or was that another battle somewhere else? I remember reading that.
I think that was at another battle prior to Ullanor. Likely at Gorro.
@@Wanten-the-stormtrooper Yes sir
Gorro
The book which details it is "The Wolf of Ash and Fire"
...what if Sanguinius had just _waited_ for the Emperor instead of going for Horus right away? Both of them vs Horus--even a bloated, Chaos-amped Horus--sounds like a more even fight that the Big E might have walked away from.
Horus mad because of male
Pattern baldness
Is there a lore reason for the Horus Heresy? Is he stupid?
Horus's armor looks ridiculous! It looks like someone threw that wolf pelt up on his back and he can't reach it so he's just like "eh whatever"....and left it up there!! 😂
How many people out there think that the alpha legion had three primarchs. I think they were triplets instead of twins . They have three heads on every dragon. I think all three might be alive.
HORUS YOU TRULY ARE WARHAMMER 40K
Wouldn't it be cool if Horus said to Sanguinius during their confrontation - You know brother, even now, i still kept my promise.
The promise to not reveal the Angel's genetic flaw.
when you realize that Horus was basically mind controlled by the chaos gods into rebelling and commit atrocities.
Oops all war crimes
Mind controlled is a... term, yes.
Part of him, however, *was* very angry at the Emperor, at his secrets and his hidden agenda.
From my understanding, the Chaos Gods have a very hard time MAKING people do things, people just tend to fall regardless of their input However, they might have sped up the process through their agents. The Ruinous Powers do not have a concept of time, so they don't really care, since they have ALREADY seen the end, which was what the Emperor (according to those close to him) was attempting to avert.
Also, Erebus. Fucking Erebus. Idiot thinks the Ruinous Powers need him. The Warp will devour the materium, they don't need him, never did, never will, he needs *them*.
One would think that Lorgar, for all his faults, would have bashed his head in for causing the fall of Horus through machinations. Lorgar hated manipulation, he wanted people to see the Truth and worship to their heart's content. Though he could teach you the truth throw a strong mace to the face. That's not out of the question.
He was not mind controlled. He was jealous. His crimes were founded in envy, doubt and arrogance. Just like Satan. He's an obvious analogue of Lucifer.
He was influenced why the caos damage and hi conditions and Hagency was corrupted by them too when them explain their version of the story. Horus believe he was choice with his mind but when the emperor hit him he realise he never have the control of his life
Absolutely beautiful.. your voice and detail to the lore spoken in your own words is stunning.
I never wanted this , I never wanted to unleash my Legion but you Betrayed me , You gave all Primarcs hair Gene & Made me Bald .
I like this
Do you know what would make an interesting video? A biology of the Primarchs video. Especially when it comes to power armour
The emperor broke before the guard
"The galaxy itself seemed to mourn, trembling under the weight of such betrayal. Planets burned, and bled their celestial sorrows as brother turned against brother, idealism consumed by the very shadows they had once sought to vanquish. In this cosmic betrayal, the heavens themselves wept tears of fire, stars dying in silent agony as they witnessed the unraveling of Mankind’s greatest endeavor. It was a rebellion crafted not of flesh, but of shattered ideals, of broken faith - a war that took not only trillion lives but the essence of humanity’s dream.
Horus, now the Archtraitor, the Warmaster of the Ruinous Powers, became the scythe in the reaper's hand, cleaving the Imperium asunder in a cataclysmic harvest of souls. His betrayal was the bell toll that heralded an age of darkness; his every command, a litany of despair; his once-valiant legions, the clanging chains that would enslave worlds to the whims of Chaos."
Almost at 40k bro I'm happy for you. I just started listening to the heresy on audible.. I'm hooked and up to Know No Fear.. crazy
3:36 Ork Warlord Urlak Urg😊 25:00 Imperial soldier stands defiant to Horus
Horus: Who shall I trust, Magnus, because he is a brother primarch, or Erebus whom I know is lying to me? I guess I will trust Erebus. I am certain he is a real swell guy deep down with the best of intentions.🤣
Horus wasn’t a traitor, he was betrayed by those closest to him (FACTS)!!!!💯💯
LUPERCAL! LUPERCAL! LUPERCAL!
Am new to this,but watch on 17 15,2 skulls,on left is 11 and on right is 2,dead legions.
Hmm, I wonder if the scattering of the primarchs was due to the emperors experiments with the webway and not by the ruinous powers?
When you are the one writing history, propaganda can be used to deflect opinion.
That guardsman inspires me man. Definitely would not mind if they ever decide to make a guardsman show.
No surprise (after a brief tantrum) Dorn ...he knew the arrogance of Horus.
Angron and night haunter had the greatest reasons to rebel. Lorgar and Perty to a lesser content. E played his sons against as eachoer that's à fact
The position of war master should have been spit into a dual role like the Roman consulship.
One Primarch overseeing military affairs while the other deals with diplomacy Horus and the lion or Gulliman would have been a perfect combination for the roles and help take the pressure off Horus and sooth any resentment
Ewww, Romans...
Amazing video and the depth of the character interactions. Can't wait for the final bookmof the Seige
Absolutely epic storytelling...
Your channel has become one of my top 5 favorites . I do alot of driving and your content makes those long drives even better
For the one and only Warmaster! Lupercal, Lupercal!
Would be cool a fan film where the emperor god fights in the crusade like Astartes video.
Como decimos allá el rancho en Sinaloa, si tan solo Horus no hubiese sido calvo….
Wait so all these times his last name is spelt LUPERCAL? I always thought it was LUPARCAL. Or was I mistaken?
So, Horus played Nectoomunda in his youth?
I always hear "Horace, lube a cow"
don't know why....
Dude your work is so incredible
If we ever get a movie/ series of the Heresy, who would you pick to play Horus? My vote would be for Dave Batista.
If henry cavill gets to make the show, and thats what the show is about, i think henry should be the warmaster. Horus is described as incredibly charming, charismatic, and likable amongst his brother primarchs. And since people in real life like him itd make sense to me to pit him against the emperor eventually
@@1776SolidSnake That’s not a bad call. I’d be inclined to give Cavill the role of Emperor or Sanguinius personally, for basically the same reasons.
Gotta go for Tom Hardy
He is VERY charismatic
But capable of playing a brutal savage, embodying Horus' Cthonian heritage and eventually his fall to Chaos
Id have to agree witb Cavill as Sanguinius or another loyalist, hes too good looking and with more "Noble" like features and demeanor for the Great Lupercal
I see bautista more as a good ferrus manus or even angron honestly
@Alsonallu Bautista can actually act different characters tho, but I can’t see either of them pulling an RP accent.
Agent K: Horus, you…piece…of…shit
"F*CKING HORUS?!"
BIG E
Fantastic video as always! Keep up the good work.
This pre heresy stuff is great
Love the music at 24:52 from the Astartes soundtrack,no?
Angels of Death OST
@@TheRemembrancer that's the one . Really liked the series as well, the soundtracks are art
Such a great Video! Thanks for all the content!
Which Primarchs look most like the Emperor?
Off the top of my head, I'd say Corvus and Conrad. And not just because of the hair but the nose and mouth too.
Did Urda's or Amar's genes also get involved? I don't actually know anything about them apart from them playing some role in their creation.
Magnus is the best character, knowing he was damned, yet he still tried to save the Thousand Sons....
Fulgrim is a bitch, Nocturno is a sad edgy boy, Angron is cool, all else is...what?
I’m new to WH40k but it would seem that in this universe the evil orcs represent Muslims and the crusaders represent.. the crusaders
@Tigran-Abazyan ok, but it’s fun to pretend
I did not have Jango Fett explaining Warhammer 40k lore on my 2023 TH-cam bingo card. Glad I found this channel
I hope after the Horus heresy books they do pre heresy storylines
Didnt he rename his legion after betraying the emporer?...not because of his victories?
The Sons of Horus were named to honor Horus with this ascension as Warmaster of the Imperium.
After having read how the Emperor is portrayed in the Horus Heresy, and seeing his power compared to Horus', I cannot believe that the Emperor held back in the least when fighting Horus. It is most likely that Horus was simply that powerful, and he was barely able to defeat him.
The emperor is Osiris.
He will rise again.
Wow, you've really earned the funny number and more I think. Great video! And thanks to pancreas for the recommendation.
What happened to the original lore where the Emperor of Mankind teleported into the heart of the battle with his 10 thousand to turn the tide and save Horus. The Emperor would cut down the Ork Warlord and in seconds 100,000 orbs would be slain with only 3 Custodes perishing, thier names immortalised inscribed on the Emperor’s armour.
What does your voice sound like without being cleaned up????? Your understanding of cadence and English language is wonderful but your oration has a great tempo and focus
Disarming the Emperor ....yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happened 😅
Ironic is it not? Many claim that it is Emperor Palpatine is the most powerful villain in all of pop culture.
But now look to Warhammer 40k, and suddenly the Emperor of the Galactic Empire would only find he is an ant among Demi Gods, and the ruinous powers of Chaos.
Better start wearing you Depends now Emperor Palpy.
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This is what should be pushed in 40k . Choas won . The attack on earth was to save Horus . An if lucky finish emperor. Chas won because it is free into the galaxy . An nothing stops it . An thats all choas wanted.
Do you think Horus would never have fallen to chaos if it weren't for that nightmare infused coma?
Meaning did he had the strength and spirit to not be corrupted if he was healthy?
I loved learning more about Horus I never knew how much of a loser he was and his traitor legions, he had to send the ultramarines, blood angels and dark angels to bumfuck nowhere to be able to attack terra and at his back he only had monsters, psychopaths, degenerates and rejects
If the Emperor honerer be thy name had just told Horis what he was doing, and had a heart to heart with his son about all he waa going through maybe Horus wouldnt have fallen.
The Emporor honered be thy bame was holly beyond all the imaginations of mankind made manifest...but wasnt a good daddy.
The emperor protects! Fan-fuckinin-tastic! Well done. Well done.