I've not reviewed Ergzone or Ergdata in this one, as I talk about them a LOT - with lots of other videos using them. If you know of another app I should look at, just get in touch.
I really love using EXR. I rarely row without connecting to that app. It keeps me entertained and I find it a lot of fun. I’ve been using it for a year now and will definitely update my subscription for another year.
Thanks for reviewing asensei John, appreciate it. It is worth mentioning that most of our workouts these days are full row-along sessions with coaching and talking all the way through from the likes of Eric Murray, Johan Quie and British Rowing. There are some you can try in the free trial too. These are similar to Eric's free row-along sessions on the asensei youtube channel - indeed some of those sessions are pulled into the app and have the goal setting, music, tracking etc fully integrated. Would be happy to talk you through any of this if you ever want to do a more in-depth piece, or just catch up. Nice to hear a Scottish voice doing a review too (two of the asensei founders also Scottish)!
Asensei is a great app but the packaging up of the workouts on the C2 logbook bugs me. Last time I checked It sends everything as one workout, warmup, main workout and cool down all combined. I think you can see the individual paces within the workout but I want the warmup to be completely separate from the main piece. Dealbreaker for me, may not be for other people. Eric is great, his weekly workouts on the asensei channel are brilliant
It's quite an old look at apps, but apart from the Aviron C2 app, there aren't many more offerings out there. In fact, a few in this video have since gone bust sadly. Good luck with the hunt!!
Hey Kévin. That would be great! I really just wanted to make very quick pieces showing that there are lots of apps out there. But each one of them (like Calorie Quest) deserve a longer video.
I am still trying to figure out how to fit EXR into my workouts with you. I like the idea of gamification and like the C2 challenges but mostly I am working through your 2k plan; so far that's been enough for me. Thanks. RowAlong treasure hunt
I have the same problem with Swelldone.... gets to 100% and doesn't load the game. Have to close the app and restart several times for it to work. Hope they solve it, as it's reasonable when it gets going (except I'm using a paddling adapter on my C2 which doesn't recognize stroke rate correctly... and the distance is way different on the app than the erg... perhaps it accounts for wind... trying to figure that out.)
Do you mean the MyRowPro app? It’s a way to join and make sessions for the main PC/Max software, rather than a way to race others. They don’t have an phone version of that yet. The MyRowPro app will allow you to set up a row for your own training, but not a multi-user row. I may make a video about this, just to add another app onto the list!
Advice someone please. Is it definitely worth upgrading my PM3 to a PM5? I'd prefer not to fork out £150-odd, especially if my PM3 will connect to these apps if I use a cable.
There are only a few apps that connect via cable. And if you’re on iPhone, you need a very special cable. If you want to use apps, then the upgrade is worth it. If you’re not bothered, and you’re ok just with something like RowPro on a computer, then don’t worry about it.
In short, several bucks a month for this, that, Netflix subscription, some more app subscriptions and several hundreds of bucks less in pocket. I an kinda allergic to all these "subscription items". Especially, when you pay for purchase and after it you have to pay subscription monthly for the purchased equipment is usable at all. Everything is a paid subscription... Nightmare. You can always train for free. At least on a decent rower. Effects for health and fitness will be exactly the same.
Exactly. And it's one of the reasons the C2 is so amazing. Buy it - and then there's nothing else to pay. It's the third party people trying to enhance something that doesn't really need enhanced that are all scrabbling for our spare cash!
Another reason why C2 really is the only choice, the PM5 is more than adequate, it's perfect and the app plus online web interface is wonderful, I like to sit at my PC on a bigger screen to view my C2 stats@@rowalong
I've not reviewed Ergzone or Ergdata in this one, as I talk about them a LOT - with lots of other videos using them. If you know of another app I should look at, just get in touch.
I really love using EXR. I rarely row without connecting to that app. It keeps me entertained and I find it a lot of fun. I’ve been using it for a year now and will definitely update my subscription for another year.
Thanks for reviewing asensei John, appreciate it. It is worth mentioning that most of our workouts these days are full row-along sessions with coaching and talking all the way through from the likes of Eric Murray, Johan Quie and British Rowing. There are some you can try in the free trial too. These are similar to Eric's free row-along sessions on the asensei youtube channel - indeed some of those sessions are pulled into the app and have the goal setting, music, tracking etc fully integrated. Would be happy to talk you through any of this if you ever want to do a more in-depth piece, or just catch up. Nice to hear a Scottish voice doing a review too (two of the asensei founders also Scottish)!
Asensei is a great app but the packaging up of the workouts on the C2 logbook bugs me. Last time I checked It sends everything as one workout, warmup, main workout and cool down all combined. I think you can see the individual paces within the workout but I want the warmup to be completely separate from the main piece. Dealbreaker for me, may not be for other people. Eric is great, his weekly workouts on the asensei channel are brilliant
Came here for the RowAlong Treasure Hunt but stayed for the glimpse into the world of rowing apps.
It's quite an old look at apps, but apart from the Aviron C2 app, there aren't many more offerings out there. In fact, a few in this video have since gone bust sadly. Good luck with the hunt!!
I really enjoy EXR. It’s keeps getting better with every update.
thx for reviewing Calorie quest John.
I would be happy to give more info about it as you miss the purpose of the two main modes :)
Hey Kévin. That would be great! I really just wanted to make very quick pieces showing that there are lots of apps out there. But each one of them (like Calorie Quest) deserve a longer video.
I am still trying to figure out how to fit EXR into my workouts with you. I like the idea of gamification and like the C2 challenges but mostly I am working through your 2k plan; so far that's been enough for me. Thanks.
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Yeah, I've been talking with EXR about trying to get my plans onto their system. I'll let you know if that ever happens.
I have the same problem with Swelldone.... gets to 100% and doesn't load the game. Have to close the app and restart several times for it to work. Hope they solve it, as it's reasonable when it gets going (except I'm using a paddling adapter on my C2 which doesn't recognize stroke rate correctly... and the distance is way different on the app than the erg... perhaps it accounts for wind... trying to figure that out.)
I think the multiplayer is around the corner. Should be available soon. I can’t wait
R u wearing Eddie Van Halen inspired shorts?
I am indeed. I've got shorts, shoes and a beach towel all in the Frankenstrat design. Huge Van Halen fan.
What’s rowpro for iPhone like?
Do you mean the MyRowPro app? It’s a way to join and make sessions for the main PC/Max software, rather than a way to race others. They don’t have an phone version of that yet.
The MyRowPro app will allow you to set up a row for your own training, but not a multi-user row.
I may make a video about this, just to add another app onto the list!
@@rowalong that explains it. Thanks!
Advice someone please.
Is it definitely worth upgrading my PM3 to a PM5?
I'd prefer not to fork out £150-odd, especially if my PM3 will connect to these apps if I use a cable.
There are only a few apps that connect via cable. And if you’re on iPhone, you need a very special cable.
If you want to use apps, then the upgrade is worth it. If you’re not bothered, and you’re ok just with something like RowPro on a computer, then don’t worry about it.
@@rowalong Thanks for such a quick and helpful reply. Really useful video as well. Just what I was looking for.
Happy to help. Get in touch if you have any mor me questions.
Yes, there are many hardware improvements in the PM5 over the PM3 aside from the addition of Bluetooth for connecting with apps.
Why aren’t you using the phone holder?
I eventually did. I think by the time I got to rowing with IC Row I realised that it would make sense to use it!!
I'd give anything for a basic app that shows strokes, calories, time, distance, etc., and nothing more.
What machine are you rowing on? If it's Concept2, then ErgZone, ErgData and KREW all do that.
Quite a mixed bag of apps there. Nothing that really makes me want to spend any money.
IC Row shows great promise as a visual distraction. But I'm still sticking with Ergzone right now just for data.
In short, several bucks a month for this, that, Netflix subscription, some more app subscriptions and several hundreds of bucks less in pocket. I an kinda allergic to all these "subscription items". Especially, when you pay for purchase and after it you have to pay subscription monthly for the purchased equipment is usable at all. Everything is a paid subscription... Nightmare.
You can always train for free. At least on a decent rower. Effects for health and fitness will be exactly the same.
Exactly. And it's one of the reasons the C2 is so amazing. Buy it - and then there's nothing else to pay. It's the third party people trying to enhance something that doesn't really need enhanced that are all scrabbling for our spare cash!
Another reason why C2 really is the only choice, the PM5 is more than adequate, it's perfect and the app plus online web interface is wonderful, I like to sit at my PC on a bigger screen to view my C2 stats@@rowalong
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Float... that might float my boat
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Hahah!
100%.... LOL
Just a waste of my life… at least I was able to make a video about it.
@@rowalong I feel a rowalong app is in your future!! 🙏
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