The scene where Tina shouts "Michael" and he yells back " *WHAT?!* " would have been so much better in H20 when Laurie shouts out Michael if he just shouted back in the distance " *WHAT?!* "
+Echoboomer1987 Yeah, they could have a fire sale on all sorts of Ben Tramer tribute rewards, the web traffic would come from out of nowhere and cause the site to crash into a huge explosion from people wanting to know "Is it him!? Is it him!?"
Having Tina replace Rachel is arguably the stupidest thing this film did. Killing her so early in the film didn't make me think "anyone could die this time!", but instead it made me think that the filmmakers gave up. Having Rachel die at the end while defending Jamie would've been somewhat emotional, as the audience learned to like those two characters and wanted to see them survive. Now when Tina gets killed, people just cheer because she was so annoying. It feels like they mixed up the characters by accident.
What I had heard was that Rachel didn't wanna do the film, but opted to do so if they killed her off early so she would still get paid. Also, the original death was supposed to be Michael stabbing her in the mouth or throat with the scissors, but Ellie ( Rachel) felt that was too grisly for her character.
I think it was meant as an homage to the various instances of skinny dipping in the Friday the 13th series. The Halloween sequels really ripped off more from Friday the 13th than F13 ripped off from the original Halloween.
Halloween 5 makes me depressed, and not because it's a shitty movie, but because poor Jamie kept losing friends. Rachel and Tina, while flawed, were good-hearted people and cared about Jamie, and then they had to die. It was messed up. No joke: one time I watched 4 and 5 back to back and it brought tears to my eyes... and NOT because the movies were bad. But anyway, great review, Brad!
+ExplorerDS6789 I agree. I think because Jamie is just a little kid, it makes this movie a lot harder to watch as opposed to if she was a teenager. This movie is just non-stop horrible things happening to her. And of course it ends on an even bleaker note and you're just like goddammit give the kid a break already.
its part of the rules for slasher/horror movies. skanks getting killed is one of them. along with nerds, stoners, minorities, people that have premarital sex, fat people, douchebags, and mean jocks
+ExplorerDS6789 Not to mention, Halloween 6 has her grown up five years later, being used for cult purposes and killed (played by an actress who was 20 at the time. The studio didn't think to get somebody younger?) Jamie went through so much Hell in these movies.
I know, man. Thinking of Halloween 5 and 6 makes me feel depressed, as does thinking of Alien 3. But as for H5, I know many fans were upset by killing off Rachel. I remember last October, Ellie Cornell herself was posting on her Facebook fan page, liking and responding to pro-Halloween 4 and 5 messages.
One of the best jokes was: "A Halloween movie without Michael Myers being the killer is like a Jason movie without Jason being the killer! And Jason´s been the killer since the VERY beginning!"
Actually, that is not true. Jason was not the killer in the first "Friday the 13th." It turns out Jason's mother was the killer in that film. Also, Jason is not the killer in "Friday the 13th: A New Beginning." In that film it is a paramedic named Roy who dresses like Jason.
Meanwhile at the Illinois children's mental hospital. Jamie meets a new patient. *Jamie:* Hi. I'm Jamie. *Boy:* Hi. I'm Andy. *Jamie:* Where are you from? *Boy:* Chicago. Where are you from? *Jamie:* Around here. *Boy:* What are you here for? *Jamie:* I did something bad to my mom last Halloween. What are you here for? *Boy:* Last year, my Good Guy doll tried to kill me and nobody believed me. *Jamie:* ...Oh.
That would be interesting. But how in the fuck would Samuel Gerard deal with Myers once he caught up to him? Try to arrest him? Shoot him? As we know it's very hard to kill The Shape.
Dr. Loomis: He killed many people in 1978. Tommy Lee Jones: I am fully aware of that, you think I'm a moron? You'd have to be a goddamn fool to not know that.
Okay, at around the 17 minute mark, I had this flash of a "what if". Y'see since the review started, it'd been bugging me, that Jamie reminded me of someone. At that moment, I realized she reminded me of Alessa from the Silent Hill franchise. Small, dark hair, borderline autistic, undefined psychic powers? CHECK! So as Michael's stalking towards her, I had this sudden flash of an air raid siren going off, the world melting around them, and Michael Meyers finds out he's been stalking the little girl from Silent Hill, and in her terror, Pyramid Head shows up and we get a battle of the Indestructible Murder Machines in a completely out of left-field crossover. Tell me that wouldn't' make this movie a hundred times better?
I actually liked Tina and was sad when she died. Mainly because of Jamie's reaction tho. I was 10 when I first saw this so I didn't find Tina that annoying outside of being an older teenager or so
So that means it's okay to leave a trauma child alone to go get dick at a Halloween party even when she has to physically speak to tell her it's too dangerous, prank cops by dressing up as a killer who's killed or scarred lives in the same town?
@@brandonspain12345well considering it was the foster sister of your friend, who you have no real attachment or commitment to, Tina was in her right to live her life, for the next two or so hours until she died
The reason Danielle Harris doesn't speak in a majority of Halloween 5 is because she had lost her voice due to all of the screaming, shouting and yelling she did in the previous movie. You can see evidence of this in the hospital scene. She tried to scream in response to waking from a nightmare but no sound came from her vocal cords. The rushed filming schedule did not allow her enough time for her throat to heal so her character Jamie was written to be a mute. It was a simple solution to what would have been a major problem.
Nice another person who missed that batman had gone so far down after 2o year s of fighting and lost his way after aliens destroy a city and kill his employees that lex is able to manipulate him into being dead set on murdering the other "hero" alien and when he is about to kill him the alien ask for him to save his mother in his last request who had the same name as Bruce's mother causing him to remember why he started fighting crime and showing him how far he strayed instantly embarrassing him and causing him to almost beg to be forgiven....but all you caught was a name and Ben Affleck shouting....geez
Out of all the Halloween sequels, this one and Resurrection were the only ones that I felt genuinely insulted while watching it. The Bulk & Skull officers, the "Michael just goes along with driving Tina to the party" scene, the portrayal of Loomis as an utter psychopath every time he interacts with Jamie.
Loomis was never remotely like a psychopath...he was strong and forceful...as well he had a RIGHT to be....The man had had ENOUGH...Halloween 5 was one of the very best movies in the series. Nothing insulting about it....if you liked the original, this is as close as the series ever came again to that tone and that substance...
Am I the only one that actually loved Tina? She’s really different than any other “final girl” archetype and she cared for Jamie. She even died for her
The absolute best part of this review is the comments of people thinking the clips of the talking dog were actually from in the film. Like Halloween 5 is so bad it has a talking dog that nobody ever mentioned
10:25 There's an interview with Donald Shanks where he says during the scene when Loomis collapses on top of Michael, Donald Pleasance said to him "I get it now. I abused you as a child."
Halloween 5 is my favorite movie in the series. This movie had a decent plot for what it was and the suspense between Jamie and Michael Myers in the end was incredible. I also appreciated the acting, pacing and cinematography. The writing could have been better. It is not perfect by a long shot but I found it entertaining.
I agree. I also just love that it changes throughout. It feels like the main character changes several times, with Tina, Jaime, and Loomis, to the point you don’t know who will survive.
I love it too. The things that made the original so special, for me, were present in this sequel to a greater degree than is usually the case. Especially the patient, silent stalking sequences...those were far stronger in 5 than in any other entry in the franchise...and if they're the strongest in THIS franchise, that's as strong as it gets....
About the Hitcher that appears in this movie, the writers didn't even come up with a backstory for him. The one that's revealed in the sixth movie was thought up later. To quote Linkara, "You are not allowed to call yourself a writer, artist or even _creator_ if you can't even be bothered to come up with a backstory for the characters that _you are writing!_ Fortunately, there is something we _can_ call you, _lazy!_"
I'm still shocked no one makes fun of Myers wearing a safety vest under his coveralls in the water rapid scene. It's so painfully obvious, they even made sure to leave it on him when he's climbing out of the water so you can clearly see it on his back. Dear God...
This is my favorite Halloween movie The Myers mansion, the clown cops and Tina Michael with his car. All the parts i like, the European director brings a different feel to it
I think Jamie is one of the best characters of the later sequels/ spin offs and 5 has some of her best scenes. Dr Lumus is also carrying the movie on his back. The scene where he breaks into a deranged rant at a terrified mute Jamie is my favorite in the series
You've gotta love the mercifulness and loyalty of Mr. and Mrs. Carruthers, forgiving Jamie so much for what she did that they ADOPTED her:) They knew what could've happened when they took her in and when it finally did they stuck by her AND got her the help she needed:) But my FAVORITE element of this one is the ALL TOO OBVIOUS relationship that's happened between Dr. Loomis and Rachel, seriously! After she's so upset when they talk outside the clinic--as if they've talked together MANY TIMES--it cuts to her SUDDENLY SO HAPPY walking home with Tina. Then she giddily showers to that random song that talks about eloping ("When we first met up, it started up all wrong..."). When she answers the phone and finds out it's him, she flops on her bed in her towel happily telling him she was in the shower and then sounds SO ANNOYED when he's calling about Jamie;) Plus Tina was going to bring a sexy costume for HER too and we just know they were going to stop by the clinic to 'check on Jamie' where he just so happened to be:) And Max seemed to know him well enough to be comfortable around him AND scared of him:):)
For those unaware, Halloween 5 is a stitched together mess, an entire key plot point to the movie was removed, some shots remain in the film, like when Michael is floating down the river, he looks like a ragdoll, that's because he was actually dead, and the scene where he shows the thorn tattoo, he's laying on a stone slab, but when it cuts back he's on the hermits wood floor, the stone slab was leftover from a scene in which a voodoo priest tattooed the thorn symbol in order to resurrect Michael, there was also a scene where Michael completely destroys an entire police force in graphic detail....I'm not making any of this up, this movie is stitched together, I wanna see the original version that was rated NC-17.
TWO Halloween reviews in one month? First i finally see a full WWE PPV for the first time in months, watched the new OSW and now a new Cinema Snob episode on Halloween 5? It has been a wonderful two days, when NC and Sage's new episodes come out in a day, i'd be even more happy. XD
That "The Hitcher" reference totally melt my heart. "The Hitcher" is such an underrated gem of 80's slasher movie, not to mention that it is one of my 25 favorite movies...
About "the Hitcher," that appears in this movie, the writers didn't even come up with a backstory for him. The one that's revealed in the sixth movie was thought up later. To quote Linkara, "You are not allowed to call yourself a writer, artist or even _creator_ if you can't even be bothered to come up with a backstory for the characters that _you are writing!_ Fortunately, there is something we _can_ call you, _lazy!_"
For some reason when I was little I had this and Swamp Thing 2 recorded on a VHS and I seriously watched them once a week. I was glad to see that the movie actually has some creeping scenes and it wasn't just me being a dumb little kid thinking that it was actually good. Obviously, it doesn't compare with the original but I think it's still a really fun watch.
Their role in the film is always blown out of proportion. It was mostly their initial scene-with the asinine sound effects-that was the problem. And they even had one legitimately good line later on(it's the parents)...Like most things people criticize about Halloween 5, they only claimed a minute or two of actual screen time...
The film's first screenplay, which was written by Shem Bitterman, featured Jamie Lloyd and Michael Myers as dual antagonists, with a now-teenage Jamie going on a killing spree of her own, Myers attempting to kill her because she was unwittingly interfering with his own spree, and Rachel being caught in the middle. Executive producer Moustapha Akkad disliked the screenplay, feeling it felt more like a parody of the Halloween series than an actual entry in it, and also because he had already promised Danielle Harris that she would be allowed to return as Jamie, and did not think that the 12-year-old Harris would be credible as a serial killer. As a result, the screenplay was rewritten essentially from scratch by Michael Jacobs and director Dominique Othenin-Girard, though Bitterman remained credited for contractual reasons.
Its for the best, dual serial killers sounds silly and would feel like they just added Michael for branding. Add to it a 12 year old murder and you have something that is too upsetting for normal movie goers and too ridiculous for hard horror people. I do wish they would do a graphic novel series of failed Halloween movie ideas. I am curious if a couple of artists could make that work as well as the original draft of Halloween 6.
Especially from everything that I've read, if anyone wants to make a Halloween film that does something different, every interaction would go like this: Filmmaker: Okay, I want to make a Halloween sequel but this time with a different killer. Studio: Sorry, our results have shown that fans _only_ want Michael Myers, and we want to avoid what happened with Halloween 3. Filmmaker: But due to time, and after being told _why_ that film was made, people like that film now. And there are _tons_ of people online who want a different killer or at the very least make Michael Myers a zombie. He burnt to a crisp at the end of part 2. Studio: But we'll be ripping off Friday the 13th. Plus, everyone was disappointed with part 5 not having Jason. Filmmaker: I rest my case. There are people out there who hated what happened to the Halloween series. A lot of those mistakes the series made was due to decisions made by the studio and look how well _they_ turned out. In fact, I've seen multiple examples of studios and networks interfering with the creative process and even though they claim that they're helping them, they end up damaging their products. The ratings of Twin Peaks lowered after the network forced the creators to reveal Laura Palmer's killer in the second season, the ratings of The Real Ghostbusters lowered after the network changed aspects of the show due to them not knowing how to write a kids show or possibly not seeing a kid in their entire lives, Cool World had good ideas until the studio interfered and it became a huge mess, Blair Witch 2 was going to be an interesting, more comedic view on the impact of The Blair Witch Project before the studio forced them to turn it into a horror film and now everyone hates that movie. Just please trust me on this and your film will sell well. Studio... But the chart says- Filmmaker: Fuck you, I'm out! Hollywood is so fucking stubborn.
i love the start of part 5. i do hate that he kills the dude that took care of him but its michael. im just glad the bird was ok. but seeing him crawl out of the rocks and go down the river is fucking hilarious, hes just a board lol hes not moving or splashing or anything.
Exactly. It's Called Money !!! Fuck artistic integrity or following the logical storyline that Myers died at the end of part 2 - The Almighty Dollar Rules The World!
Most of Halloween 5 and a little bit of Halloween 4 were filmed in Utah, i got to go to the park where they filmed Ted Hollister's death. It's a military memorial inside a large park.
Thank you, Cinema Snob!!!! I don't mind them having the character in some sort of a coma for a year, but that the old man just leaves him in the bed for a year is head scratching lol
This is _exactly_ what's happening to the Alien prequel series right now, they end up listening to everyone who hated Prometheus/Season of The Witch for all the wrong reasons, and refuse to change or do something different _because_ of that. Sometimes I hate my life.
Rachel dying for getting naked in this movie is ridiculous. All she was doing was taking a shower. What was she supposed to do? Take a shower with her clothes on?! Give me a break!
It would have been interesting if they made it a game of psycho killers with Jamie making her way through the asylum and Michael making his way through Haddonfield with those two having a showdown at the end
+tyler thompson It's from the TV series Tequila and Bonetti. You probably found that out by now though. Brad's currently doing a review of the show episode by episode.
The scene where Tina shouts "Michael" and he yells back " *WHAT?!* " would have been so much better in H20 when Laurie shouts out Michael if he just shouted back in the distance " *WHAT?!* "
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That joke was used in this review of H20
RIP Ben Tramer.
Never forget.
Brad really should start a kickstarter for a Ben Tramer memorial.
+Echoboomer1987 Yeah, they could have a fire sale on all sorts of Ben Tramer tribute rewards, the web traffic would come from out of nowhere and cause the site to crash into a huge explosion from people wanting to know "Is it him!? Is it him!?"
+Echoboomer1987 R.I.P. Ben Tramer
+SOHR Minnesota even though he died in the series?
+Echoboomer1987
where can I get the halloween mask with blond hair????
All proceeds go to the Ben Tramer Foundation Program spreading awareness of not walking in the middle of the streets dressed as serial killers
Why is Cinema Snob not the most popular show on youtube? this shit is always fucking hilarious. even when they're movies i like
"Doctor Lumis... leave the little girl alone..."
"Scaring the little GIRL?!"
LOOMIS ....lol ..Not Lumis .
Langoliers lol
"Michael!"
"...*WHAT?!*"
Why is that so funny to me?
+Kolby Kauffman
Cause Loomis has been shouting that for 11 years.
I concur. I loved it for some reason. The character has the same reaction to Tina that I would.
Because Tina is so annoying!!!!!
It was how he said it “*wHATT*”
7:48
🤣
This was called the Revenge of Michael Myers because he was getting revenge for the deaths of Ben Tramer and Ted Hollister.
Good point.
EkumPokum absolutely
EkumPokum you're giving this movie too much credit.
Joshua Sepeda you’re *
Joshua Sepeda you said “your are”...just say “you’re”
Having Tina replace Rachel is arguably the stupidest thing this film did. Killing her so early in the film didn't make me think "anyone could die this time!", but instead it made me think that the filmmakers gave up. Having Rachel die at the end while defending Jamie would've been somewhat emotional, as the audience learned to like those two characters and wanted to see them survive. Now when Tina gets killed, people just cheer because she was so annoying.
It feels like they mixed up the characters by accident.
What I had heard was that Rachel didn't wanna do the film, but opted to do so if they killed her off early so she would still get paid. Also, the original death was supposed to be Michael stabbing her in the mouth or throat with the scissors, but Ellie ( Rachel) felt that was too grisly for her character.
I met Don Shanks once at a showing of this movie on Halloween at a theater that specialized in cult classics. He's a really nice guy.
Nicest guys makes the greatest serial killers. See how friendly was geoffrey dahmer. He let people stay at home & eat (in no particular order)
I feel sorry for him because he was in this rotten film.
He was in the Buttercream Gang sequel as the random native-american at the beginning of the film.
@outsidercain3038 it's fiction cringeboy, take a fuckin seat kid
Skinny dipping? In Illinois? In October? Really?
Polar Bear Club?
We do have the Polar Bear club in Chicago
One of the most believable parts this movie provides
I think it was meant as an homage to the various instances of skinny dipping in the Friday the 13th series. The Halloween sequels really ripped off more from Friday the 13th than F13 ripped off from the original Halloween.
Apt avatar. lmfao
I love how infuriated he gets about the new "Myers" house lol
R.I.P Ben Tramer (1961-1978) "You'll be dearly missed, you were such a big influence on everyone around you."
*BOOOM* 😞
🙄 Wronngg!!!!
#JusticeForGrady
Halloween 5 makes me depressed, and not because it's a shitty movie, but because poor Jamie kept losing friends. Rachel and Tina, while flawed, were good-hearted people and cared about Jamie, and then they had to die. It was messed up. No joke: one time I watched 4 and 5 back to back and it brought tears to my eyes... and NOT because the movies were bad.
But anyway, great review, Brad!
+ExplorerDS6789 I agree. I think because Jamie is just a little kid, it makes this movie a lot harder to watch as opposed to if she was a teenager. This movie is just non-stop horrible things happening to her. And of course it ends on an even bleaker note and you're just like goddammit give the kid a break already.
its part of the rules for slasher/horror movies. skanks getting killed is one of them. along with nerds, stoners, minorities, people that have premarital sex, fat people, douchebags, and mean jocks
Vegeta Saiyan Prince of Rage boners Michael Myers is an equal opportunity killer. Jason Voorhees, on the other hand, doesn't kill little kids or dogs.
+ExplorerDS6789 Not to mention, Halloween 6 has her grown up five years later, being used for cult purposes and killed (played by an actress who was 20 at the time. The studio didn't think to get somebody younger?) Jamie went through so much Hell in these movies.
I know, man. Thinking of Halloween 5 and 6 makes me feel depressed, as does thinking of Alien 3. But as for H5, I know many fans were upset by killing off Rachel. I remember last October, Ellie Cornell herself was posting on her Facebook fan page, liking and responding to pro-Halloween 4 and 5 messages.
The (original) Myers house is now chiropractors office. No joke.
Stefan Sharak Myers giving out massages.....
10:32
I'm sorry, you forced me to do this: SCARING the little GIRL?!
Finally I get to reference The Langoliers!
+hankmillenium2000 you should be allowed to reference the Langoliers whenever you want
CoffeeShopSamurai I am, but I never had a good reason to.
+hankmillenium2000 whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! lmao you made my night
+hankmillenium2000 Don't make me put you in a nose hold ;P
hankmillenium2000 Man U did it before me
One of the best jokes was: "A Halloween movie without Michael Myers being the killer is like a Jason movie without Jason being the killer! And Jason´s been the killer since the VERY beginning!"
Actually, that is not true. Jason was not the killer in the first "Friday the 13th." It turns out Jason's mother was the killer in that film. Also, Jason is not the killer in "Friday the 13th: A New Beginning." In that film it is a paramedic named Roy who dresses like Jason.
@@michaelerickson985 Oh my god... Dude, you really need to buy yourself a sarcasm detector!!
@@michaelerickson985 ahahahahahha you're that guy
@@michaelerickson985 Cool it with the spoilers chief!
@@michaelerickson985 you, uh, you,...know what, I'm not even going to bother. May God have mercy on you
"Easy there Nancy Grace, he hasn't had a trial yet." 😂😂😂😂🖤😂
“That’s the Akkad motto god forbid somebody do something different.” I see no lies here
Meanwhile at the Illinois children's mental hospital. Jamie meets a new patient. *Jamie:* Hi. I'm Jamie. *Boy:* Hi. I'm Andy. *Jamie:* Where are you from? *Boy:* Chicago. Where are you from? *Jamie:* Around here. *Boy:* What are you here for? *Jamie:* I did something bad to my mom last Halloween. What are you here for? *Boy:* Last year, my Good Guy doll tried to kill me and nobody believed me. *Jamie:* ...Oh.
Will's Genre-Rama *claps excitedly*
Will's Genre-Rama Dude I'd watch that. Fuck I'm considering writing that. Lol.
*a man in drag walks past* mother: ignore these crazy kids Norman!
can't wait till Halloween 6 this year. Paul Rudd and Exploding Heads.....
6:10 Does the buddy cop circus music remind anyone of Bulk and Skull's theme?
I'd totally watch a movie where Tommy Lee Jones hunts down Michael Myers.
he did chase down Harrison Ford and Wesley Snipes which Snipes finally got out of prison
+kws2534 I don't care.
That would be interesting. But how in the fuck would Samuel Gerard deal with Myers once he caught up to him? Try to arrest him? Shoot him? As we know it's very hard to kill The Shape.
Dr. Loomis: He killed many people in 1978.
Tommy Lee Jones: I am fully aware of that, you think I'm a moron? You'd have to be a goddamn fool to not know that.
Michael Myers: *hands in the air* I didn't kill my wife!!
Tommy Lee Jones: I don't Care!!
"Michael was Michael McDonald the whole time! [...] Does he hibernate when Halloween Ends?"
Jesus, Brad, stop predicting the future.
3:22 As random as the Michael McDonald joke is, its even more random that McDonald showed up in Halloween Kills lol
I would very much like to see Tequila and Bonetti vs Micheal Myers.
@@Ryufan60 "Heh...I guess someone should've thrown Dr. Loomis a bone!"
The Joseph Gordon Levitt joke got me.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
pineapple pizzafan Me too!
Laughed Out Loud at the Creighton Duke joke.
"When I think of Michael Myers. I think of a little girl putting a hot dog through a doughnut."
Okay, at around the 17 minute mark, I had this flash of a "what if". Y'see since the review started, it'd been bugging me, that Jamie reminded me of someone. At that moment, I realized she reminded me of Alessa from the Silent Hill franchise. Small, dark hair, borderline autistic, undefined psychic powers? CHECK!
So as Michael's stalking towards her, I had this sudden flash of an air raid siren going off, the world melting around them, and Michael Meyers finds out he's been stalking the little girl from Silent Hill, and in her terror, Pyramid Head shows up and we get a battle of the Indestructible Murder Machines in a completely out of left-field crossover.
Tell me that wouldn't' make this movie a hundred times better?
Too bad both franchises are dead, that sounds amazing
Did you prefer playing for the eagles or the 49ers?
How was she borderline autistic?
When Jason can go to hell and into space, Michael can go to Silent hill.works for me.
Then Pinhead shows up and says "I don't think we're in Kansas anymore!"
3:22 The Snob predicted Halloween Kills Little John.
Yeah! What? Okay! Hey! Get crunk!
I cant wait to watch Brad DESTROY the Rob Zombies versions.
Even thought i love the first remake and think the second is at least enjoyable, they will probably make awesome cinema snob videos.
Well, he didn't.
@@pyramidhead6998 he didn't what? Be specific.
@@pyramidhead6998 He liked the first film but definitely destroyed H2
We need more horror movies with talking dogs.
I actually liked Tina and was sad when she died. Mainly because of Jamie's reaction tho. I was 10 when I first saw this so I didn't find Tina that annoying outside of being an older teenager or so
I liked her over excited happy personality, and I don't think she was a replacement for Rachel because Tina's just her friend.
Obey by the Snobs opinion !
Tina made the film hard to sit through back then, and she makes it hard to sit through now.
Ohhh Tina makes it Hard all right 😐
I actually like the direction they went with Tina in this one. It's a realistic depiction of how some people react to trauma.
So that means it's okay to leave a trauma child alone to go get dick at a Halloween party even when she has to physically speak to tell her it's too dangerous, prank cops by dressing up as a killer who's killed or scarred lives in the same town?
@@brandonspain12345well considering it was the foster sister of your friend, who you have no real attachment or commitment to, Tina was in her right to live her life, for the next two or so hours until she died
Hot damn, Loomis is creepier than Micheal.
Can we address how Lumis is as much of a monster as Micheal?
Maybe they were going for a kind of Cpt. Ahab thing with Dr loomis?
@@phreakazoith2237 that actually makes a lot of sense
Nonsense. Loomis put himself between Michael and Jamie on THREE separate occasions in this film. He is a hero....first, last, and ALWAYS...
Tequila and Bonetti references in a Halloween review? Bravo Brad!
The reason Danielle Harris doesn't speak in a majority of Halloween 5 is because she had lost her voice due to all of the screaming, shouting and yelling she did in the previous movie. You can see evidence of this in the hospital scene. She tried to scream in response to waking from a nightmare but no sound came from her vocal cords. The rushed filming schedule did not allow her enough time for her throat to heal so her character Jamie was written to be a mute. It was a simple solution to what would have been a major problem.
"Uncle"
I believe she could have said 'Martha' as that seems to work too.
Nice another person who missed that batman had gone so far down after 2o year s of fighting and lost his way after aliens destroy a city and kill his employees that lex is able to manipulate him into being dead set on murdering the other "hero" alien and when he is about to kill him the alien ask for him to save his mother in his last request who had the same name as Bruce's mother causing him to remember why he started fighting crime and showing him how far he strayed instantly embarrassing him and causing him to almost beg to be forgiven....but all you caught was a name and Ben Affleck shouting....geez
@@williamhollaway1960 Cry harder for me Sally. 😅 Batman v Superman was absolutely trash!
Out of all the Halloween sequels, this one and Resurrection were the only ones that I felt genuinely insulted while watching it. The Bulk & Skull officers, the "Michael just goes along with driving Tina to the party" scene, the portrayal of Loomis as an utter psychopath every time he interacts with Jamie.
Loomis was never remotely like a psychopath...he was strong and forceful...as well he had a RIGHT to be....The man had had ENOUGH...Halloween 5 was one of the very best movies in the series. Nothing insulting about it....if you liked the original, this is as close as the series ever came again to that tone and that substance...
Am I the only one that actually loved Tina? She’s really different than any other “final girl” archetype and she cared for Jamie. She even died for her
Tina should have died for Jamie much sooner.
Yeah, she cared for Jamie so much that she left her in the hospital after meeting her for 5 minutes and went on to celebrate Halloween!
Don Shanks said in an interview that at the premiere, when Tina died the audience stood up and cheered.
Yeah I love Tina, she's the only slasher character who has growth but also seems fun to hang with irl
yes not as much as Rachel but still
The absolute best part of this review is the comments of people thinking the clips of the talking dog were actually from in the film. Like Halloween 5 is so bad it has a talking dog that nobody ever mentioned
3:20 this is funny since Michael McDonald ended up in Halloween Kills
It's funny because Cameron Diaz would be the same age as that character in 1989.
H5: TROM😊
I have a deep psychological fear of Michael Myers because I saw the first when I was 3
I’m the same way about Freddy Krueger.
10:25 There's an interview with Donald Shanks where he says during the scene when Loomis collapses on top of Michael, Donald Pleasance said to him "I get it now. I abused you as a child."
Honestly my favorite Halloween sequel, bar none.
+inlovewithJLT Mine too! Many hate it because it changes the tone from Halloween 4... but I hate H4, so I am perfectly fine with that.
Halloween 5 is my favorite movie in the series. This movie had a decent plot for what it was and the suspense between Jamie and Michael Myers in the end was incredible. I also appreciated the acting, pacing and cinematography. The writing could have been better. It is not perfect by a long shot but I found it entertaining.
I agree. I also just love that it changes throughout. It feels like the main character changes several times, with Tina, Jaime, and Loomis, to the point you don’t know who will survive.
I love it too. The things that made the original so special, for me, were present in this sequel to a greater degree than is usually the case. Especially the patient, silent stalking sequences...those were far stronger in 5 than in any other entry in the franchise...and if they're the strongest in THIS franchise, that's as strong as it gets....
Halloween V: Let the Downfall Commence!
6:05: This universe is weird. Just look at these cops!
I know you didn't add those sound effects in. It's IN the movie.
About the Hitcher that appears in this movie, the writers didn't even come up with a backstory for him. The one that's revealed in the sixth movie was thought up later. To quote Linkara, "You are not allowed to call yourself a writer, artist or even _creator_ if you can't even be bothered to come up with a backstory for the characters that _you are writing!_ Fortunately, there is something we _can_ call you, _lazy!_"
The kittens were the best part of the film.
My cat just had kittens, and they're so cute.
Congratulations.
This movie was rushed into cinema whilst Halloween 4 was still in the cinemas. In the words of the production team, they were up against themselves.
"I could get used to seeing the Michael Myers car."
*car explodes*
"Unfortunately, it's an 80s movie car, so it explodes very easily."
I lost it lol
3:37
So Jamie’s psychic but can’t tell Michael isn’t the one following her through the hospital.
I'm still shocked no one makes fun of Myers wearing a safety vest under his coveralls in the water rapid scene. It's so painfully obvious, they even made sure to leave it on him when he's climbing out of the water so you can clearly see it on his back. Dear God...
18:43 I think this is my favorite line from the review. They didn’t even try at all to get the house right.
His rage at the blatant lack of attention to detail is hilarious
2 halloween reviews in one year? It must be chirstmas.....or halloween I guess.
They play this on tv every year. It was better than part 6 at least. Jamie is likable and Tina was cute.
This is my favorite Halloween movie
The Myers mansion, the clown cops and Tina
Michael with his car. All the parts i like, the European director brings a different feel to it
I think Jamie is one of the best characters of the later sequels/ spin offs and 5 has some of her best scenes.
Dr Lumus is also carrying the movie on his back. The scene where he breaks into a deranged rant at a terrified mute Jamie is my favorite in the series
@@notaraven yeah it was kinda hilarious 😂
To me the man in black should of been Cochran from Halloween 3. With Michael turning out to having been replaced by a robot at the end of part one.
You've gotta love the mercifulness and loyalty of Mr. and Mrs. Carruthers, forgiving Jamie so much for what she did that they ADOPTED her:) They knew what could've happened when they took her in and when it finally did they stuck by her AND got her the help she needed:) But my FAVORITE element of this one is the ALL TOO OBVIOUS relationship that's happened between Dr. Loomis and Rachel, seriously! After she's so upset when they talk outside the clinic--as if they've talked together MANY TIMES--it cuts to her SUDDENLY SO HAPPY walking home with Tina. Then she giddily showers to that random song that talks about eloping ("When we first met up, it started up all wrong..."). When she answers the phone and finds out it's him, she flops on her bed in her towel happily telling him she was in the shower and then sounds SO ANNOYED when he's calling about Jamie;) Plus Tina was going to bring a sexy costume for HER too and we just know they were going to stop by the clinic to 'check on Jamie' where he just so happened to be:) And Max seemed to know him well enough to be comfortable around him AND scared of him:):)
I need a full Bummer version of the Halloween theme now.
And I totally thought that guy was Skull, but seeing him without Bulk? Highly unlikely.
For those unaware, Halloween 5 is a stitched together mess, an entire key plot point to the movie was removed, some shots remain in the film, like when Michael is floating down the river, he looks like a ragdoll, that's because he was actually dead, and the scene where he shows the thorn tattoo, he's laying on a stone slab, but when it cuts back he's on the hermits wood floor, the stone slab was leftover from a scene in which a voodoo priest tattooed the thorn symbol in order to resurrect Michael, there was also a scene where Michael completely destroys an entire police force in graphic detail....I'm not making any of this up, this movie is stitched together, I wanna see the original version that was rated NC-17.
Halloween 5 is a MASTERPIECE. I mean, AS IS. As fine of a movie as anything of its' kind ever made.
The inability to get over the different house is so relatable
TWO Halloween reviews in one month? First i finally see a full WWE PPV for the first time in months, watched the new OSW and now a new Cinema Snob episode on Halloween 5? It has been a wonderful two days, when NC and Sage's new episodes come out in a day, i'd be even more happy. XD
Honestly, this is one of my favorite movies in the series. It’s got some very intense, creepy moments that stand out
Agreed. Better than most the sequels since.
Yes. I don't know how many people like it, but those of us who do, tend to like it a LOT...
Thank you for taking time to do these reviews for us ♥
That "The Hitcher" reference totally melt my heart. "The Hitcher" is such an underrated gem of 80's slasher movie, not to mention that it is one of my 25 favorite movies...
About "the Hitcher," that appears in this movie, the writers didn't even come up with a backstory for him. The one that's revealed in the sixth movie was thought up later. To quote Linkara, "You are not allowed to call yourself a writer, artist or even _creator_ if you can't even be bothered to come up with a backstory for the characters that _you are writing!_ Fortunately, there is something we _can_ call you, _lazy!_"
For some reason when I was little I had this and Swamp Thing 2 recorded on a VHS and I seriously watched them once a week. I was glad to see that the movie actually has some creeping scenes and it wasn't just me being a dumb little kid thinking that it was actually good. Obviously, it doesn't compare with the original but I think it's still a really fun watch.
Brad, you of all people should know that every self-respecting horror movie needs a pair of bumbling comedic relief cops.
+AceAttorny it helps explaining why no one call the cops
+AceAttorny True, a Mort Metzger or Bill Gillepsie-style officer would ruin the trope by actually getting the job done.
Their role in the film is always blown out of proportion. It was mostly their initial scene-with the asinine sound effects-that was the problem. And they even had one legitimately good line later on(it's the parents)...Like most things people criticize about Halloween 5, they only claimed a minute or two of actual screen time...
The film's first screenplay, which was written by Shem Bitterman, featured Jamie Lloyd and Michael Myers as dual antagonists, with a now-teenage Jamie going on a killing spree of her own, Myers attempting to kill her because she was unwittingly interfering with his own spree, and Rachel being caught in the middle. Executive producer Moustapha Akkad disliked the screenplay, feeling it felt more like a parody of the Halloween series than an actual entry in it, and also because he had already promised Danielle Harris that she would be allowed to return as Jamie, and did not think that the 12-year-old Harris would be credible as a serial killer. As a result, the screenplay was rewritten essentially from scratch by Michael Jacobs and director Dominique Othenin-Girard, though Bitterman remained credited for contractual reasons.
Its for the best, dual serial killers sounds silly and would feel like they just added Michael for branding. Add to it a 12 year old murder and you have something that is too upsetting for normal movie goers and too ridiculous for hard horror people.
I do wish they would do a graphic novel series of failed Halloween movie ideas. I am curious if a couple of artists could make that work as well as the original draft of Halloween 6.
Especially from everything that I've read, if anyone wants to make a Halloween film that does something different, every interaction would go like this:
Filmmaker: Okay, I want to make a Halloween sequel but this time with a different killer.
Studio: Sorry, our results have shown that fans _only_ want Michael Myers, and we want to avoid what happened with Halloween 3.
Filmmaker: But due to time, and after being told _why_ that film was made, people like that film now. And there are _tons_ of people online who want a different killer or at the very least make Michael Myers a zombie. He burnt to a crisp at the end of part 2.
Studio: But we'll be ripping off Friday the 13th. Plus, everyone was disappointed with part 5 not having Jason.
Filmmaker: I rest my case. There are people out there who hated what happened to the Halloween series. A lot of those mistakes the series made was due to decisions made by the studio and look how well _they_ turned out. In fact, I've seen multiple examples of studios and networks interfering with the creative process and even though they claim that they're helping them, they end up damaging their products. The ratings of Twin Peaks lowered after the network forced the creators to reveal Laura Palmer's killer in the second season, the ratings of The Real Ghostbusters lowered after the network changed aspects of the show due to them not knowing how to write a kids show or possibly not seeing a kid in their entire lives, Cool World had good ideas until the studio interfered and it became a huge mess, Blair Witch 2 was going to be an interesting, more comedic view on the impact of The Blair Witch Project before the studio forced them to turn it into a horror film and now everyone hates that movie. Just please trust me on this and your film will sell well.
Studio... But the chart says-
Filmmaker: Fuck you, I'm out!
Hollywood is so fucking stubborn.
You are the best Brad.
This was great.
Cartoon sound effects playing whenever a certain character is around? Oh god, it's Fatal Pulse all over again!
i love the start of part 5. i do hate that he kills the dude that took care of him but its michael. im just glad the bird was ok. but seeing him crawl out of the rocks and go down the river is fucking hilarious, hes just a board lol hes not moving or splashing or anything.
Will there ever be justice for Bennett Tramer?
3:37
I fear not.
OMG WHO THE HELL CARES?!?!?
The dog made me actually check if I was watching the same review it was so jarring
Seriously why couldn't they just left Halloween to its original perfection and spare it of sequels.
+The Cinema Cowboy Money my dear boy! Money.
Exactly. It's Called Money !!! Fuck artistic integrity or following the logical storyline that Myers died at the end of part 2 - The Almighty Dollar Rules The World!
Ride the motherfuckin' cash cow until the wheels fall off! Keep cranking out shitty sequels to make a buck.
$$$ talks while artistic integrity walks.
Most of Halloween 5 and a little bit of Halloween 4 were filmed in Utah, i got to go to the park where they filmed Ted Hollister's death. It's a military memorial inside a large park.
Anyone saw Michael in the tree before Mike drove bye
8:58 Holy crap you’re right! Good eye!
I love you Brad!
2:24 😂😂😂 "young Joseph Gordon levitt" lol
NewWavProductions LOL she totally does look like him!
Maybe this sparked the origin of the "It's just a prank bro!!!" line.
Your reviews are quality
Thank you, Cinema Snob!!!! I don't mind them having the character in some sort of a coma for a year, but that the old man just leaves him in the bed for a year is head scratching lol
The talking dog bits killed me! LoL 🤣
This is _exactly_ what's happening to the Alien prequel series right now, they end up listening to everyone who hated Prometheus/Season of The Witch for all the wrong reasons, and refuse to change or do something different _because_ of that. Sometimes I hate my life.
say what you will about this flick, i gotta give credit to the kid in this, shes actually pretty good even for kid actors.
Having just rewatched this movie last week, I really appreciate your review.
Brad is very entertaining!
Rachel dying for getting naked in this movie is ridiculous. All she was doing was taking a shower. What was she supposed to do? Take a shower with her clothes on?! Give me a break!
SNOOPY(Schroeder) REFERENCE FOR THE WIN! I love you, Brad.
Underrated halloween sequel.
The talking dog was awesome!
That "Uncle" line caught me genuinely off guard.
It would have been interesting if they made it a game of psycho killers with Jamie making her way through the asylum and Michael making his way through Haddonfield with those two having a showdown at the end
For anyone who cares, my ranking of the Halloween series:
- Halloween
- Halloween II
- Halloween III
- Halloween 4
- Halloween H20
- Halloween 2018
- Halloween 5
- Halloween Kills
- Halloween 2007
- Halloween 6
- Halloween Resurrection
- Halloween II 2009
2:22 "Young joseph gordon-levitt" 😂
This is my favorite Snob episode.
never forget me
Is the dog seriously talking? Please tell me you put that in in post.
+tyler thompson It took them a long time to train the dog to talk.
Yea this is what i am wonderinf
+tyler thompson It's from the TV series Tequila and Bonetti. You probably found that out by now though. Brad's currently doing a review of the show episode by episode.
+tyler thompson I was just about to ask that lol. It seemed absurd but 5 mins in and I wouldn't put it past this movie.