Misquoting Jesus in the Bible - Professor Bart D. Ehrman
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- Heyns Lecture Series at Cubberley Auditorium, Stanford University Campus, Wednesday, April 25, 2007. Lecture on "Misquoting Jesus" a textual criticism of Biblical manuscript tampering. From the book "Misquoting Jesus: Scribes Who Altered Scripture and Readers Who May Never Know."
Book listed on Bart Ehrman's Foundation Blog: ehrmanblog.org/misquoting-jesus/
Book listed on Bart Ehrman's Main website: www.bartehrman.com/misquoting...
Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University. At UNC he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department of Religious Studies. A graduate of Wheaton College (Illinois), Professor Ehrman received both his Masters of Divinity and Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude.
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always search for the truth no matter where that takes you
+Ibrahim kd Did you read Sura 19 verse 33? Here you see clearly, that the Quran is lying, because Muslims claim, that Jesus never died and also said, that Jesus did never sin, so He did not lie.
So Islam denies the everlasting life?
Well, we as Christians know, that not everyone has to die and that there is an everlasting life and the resurrection.
Tell me the reason, why Jesus would have to die, when HE never sinned?
What sense would life make in the end, when there is no everlasting life?
What would Jesus be judged for? According to the Quran, Jesus was never touched by the devil, so HE never sinned. What right would God have to judge him and what for. That doesn't make sense to me at all.
They go to heaven and live forever? The Quran says, that Jesus went to heaven without dying and that he will come back to judge, right? So after Jesus judged the people, God will kill Jesus?
The following is brilliant.
When Erhman asked his students how many of them believed the Bible is the inspired word of God, the entire class put up their hands. When Erhman asked them how many of them had read the Bible from cover to cover, only a few hands went up. Ehrman commented, “You’d think that if people believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, they would want to know what God had to say.”
It's a very important point. I wonder how many people know the whole Bible completely by heart. I bet the answer is none. If you ask this question about the Qur'an, you'll find many know it completely by heart. In it God says: 'And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?' 54:17
Reading all the books that make up the bible is one sure fired way to end up being an atheist... probably the main reason that the church outlawed anyone having a bible other than ordained priests.
I think any intelligent person who reads any part of the Bible quickly understands the book was not directed by a spiritually evolved creative source.
@@_truthful_q_ which version?
It just confirms that no thought or reflection goes into fundamentalist dogma. I'm a Taoist, but that realization only came to me after having read as much Taoist writing as I could find, many times, and after much reflection and meditation (AKA prayer). It took years. The students referred to here evidently signed on with fundamental Christianity because someone above them in the social hierarchy imparted to them the understanding that it was a good idea. It's unfortunate. What results is a social support network built around aggressive political activism, without understanding, and without any path to Grace. I believe that accounts for the fact that fundamentalists appear to "believe" so many things that contradict the teachings of Jesus (who, BTW, was an ideal Taoist in fact, if not in name).
I have learned more about the Bible as an atheist than I ever did as a Christian!😊 thanks Bart!!
Ha Ha! Same here. Thank god I bailed out over 50 years ago and didn't waste my life believing in the myths and fairy tales.
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Correction, you can thank youself for that, not god :D @@helengraham7472
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@@helengraham7472
The great white throne is not here yet. You take salvation so lightly. Jesus did not.
Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6.
Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online.
'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme
love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted.
Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15.
Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, pride hates it!
When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners.
Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5.
Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15.
When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.
PS. Other apostles were baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
I grew up in the Church but more or less abandoned everything when I was in my early teens. Coming back and studying it again from a whole new lens I feel like I'm actually able to appreciate a lot more than with the dogmatic approach I had as a kid
I think that there is a time and a place in life for a more constrained interpretation. As The Teacher said: "There is a season". And as Paul said "When I was a child I spoke as a child and thought as a child". The problem crops up when people hold on to those restrained views even as they intellectually and spiritually mature. Another problem occurs when people try to impose their supposedly better views on others. Each person has their path and it is good to encourage them pursue it in their own time.
Same for me. The history of the Bible is surprisingly interesting
Legalism is the only problem
I don’t “ appreciate “ finding out things like the story of the woman who was about to be stoned for sinning but then was saved by Jesus was a later addition to the tale from a story that was already around before and just applied to the god / man.How many other ones were just such lies patched together?!?I submit all of them and don’t appreciate being indoctrinated into that scam when I was young and gullible.
@@garyhundsrucker7771 Well, at least you got the problem wrong - so there is that.
I really respect this man. He doesn’t force his beliefs or criticize. He just give the information and leave it up to the listener. I as s believer love listening to him
@Nasir Aameen Wait, as a “believer” you love listening to a guy who is a non believer, that denies and blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ name and slanders the truth about the deity of Christ?🤦🏾♂️ you are definitely a Luke Warm Christian.
Revelation 3:15-17 (KJV)
“”15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:””
A true Believer should never “love” listening to someone blaspheme Gods name.
@Jon Doe , you are just jealous that he knows more about the bible than you ever will.
well he's a scholar and doesn't believe what he has studied. Seems he can't come to grips with natural laws that God created. Yin/yang, good/bad, happiness/sadness. He thinks God can only exist if the world were ice cream cones and puppy tails.
To be a believer, you must be born again, new creature, called Regeneration.
Webster 1828 Dictionary formerly named, Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary
Regeneration: Reproduction, the act of making new. In Theology; new birth by the grace of God.; that change by which the natural enmity of man toward God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are IMPLANTED in the heart.
He saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3.
@@AtreyuKhalilevery quote you use is incorrect and has no relation to any original text. You can't blaspheme something that wasn't correct to begin with.
Before I discovered the world of former believers turn atheist/agnostic I really thought I was on an island. Listening to people like him make me feel a sense of validation that I never knew I would need on this path of life. I tried to describe to my friend that the eras I saw in the Bible became to great for me to continue to believe in god. She told me she just ignored the parts of the Bible I was talking about because at the end of the day “man could have messed up some things because after all we are human and only god is perfect”. I responded, “How would the god that created the universe, the massive amazing universe not make sure his precious word was preserved for all time. We are suppose to base salvation on what it teaches. You can’t convince me that a god that can create the marvels of the world and a galaxy that is so massive that even traveling at the speed of light we couldn’t cross it in our lifetime. It would take 200,000 years and that’s just our galaxy. So a god who can create these things would make sure that no errors would distort his word”. I was one of those Christian that bought into the belief that Jesus was the bread of life and I needed to know his word and hide it in my heart. So to be spiritually fed and transform I would renew my mind by sitting at the feet of Jesus and seeking his truth through the word. But to my complete and utter anguish it caused legit turmoil. From that I fasted and interceded because I thought I must be under demonic attack. I must have a spirit devotion, of Jezebel, or a spirit of Leviathan. I went to leaders and humbly shared the despair and doubt that reading the Bible was causing me. But to no avail I couldn’t get free from this dark cloud. I would blare worship music to drown out the thoughts of doubt. I was quite literally trying to get myself to STOP THINKING. Moral of the story is decided to start thinking and allowed myself to accept I am not a believer. I am finally free. Without a doubt free from oppression! It kind of makes me giggle thinking that back in the day if I had talk to myself I would have felt bad for me and thought, “man she is deceived”.
You know Bart isnt an atheist because of written, error, right?
I have asked myself the same questions too. I found that if you sort out answers from thd bible on foundational questions like what to do to be saved the answers do not always correspond from writer to writer. I felt just like you that at least those things should be clear, if eternal fate of persons depend on it. I find that there really is no way of establishing clarity. I believe that all religions are man made, based on culture of the founders. They offer wisdom, but sometimes in error. In the end we all use the filter of our conscience and personal experience to decide right from wrong and how to walk this path called life. I still believe that there is a God, and that better than in any book, God is revealed through his ever evolving creation.
@@Matira269 Yes, and one can't really BEGIN any of that without some agreement and proper, useful DETAIL on why any soul was put into jeopardy to begin with, however?
I left Christianity for similar reason/mindset.
You’d expect omniscient and omnipotent God to preserve his word better etc. And since i was a fundamentalist Christian who believed in inerrancy of the bible, when i really came across the real contradictions and errors, that put me into denial and a shock. It took me 3 years to fully deconvert.
Ultimately, What brought me out of Christianity was lack of evidence and just flat out wrong history and contradictions etc.
But it on the other hand, biblical world view seriously conflicted with my philosophy. Such as just, loving and omnipotent god
throwing people into hell for unbelief.
Why can’t God punish people for finite amount of time since their sins were finite?
I remember Some pastor defending eternal hell by saying “you committed sin against an eternal God and so just punishment is eternal one”.
Yeah, no. Screw that. Why would you judge the sinner’s sentence based on god’s eternalness?
You created us this way and we were brought into this existence not even by our own choice and you want to send us to eternal torment?
And what if you were born into Islamic family? Into Hinduism? Your location of birth is most likely going to your eternal fate? What about children who die at like 15? They goto hell?
Get the f... out.
Christians will do these mental gymnastics to defend god.
Nah. I dont buy it.
@@BearFruit90 you love mankind more than its Creator. Got Free will. Your privilege. Just check and see if you can love EVERY ONE in mankind without leaving anybody out.
"If God inspired a book, you'd think you'd want to read it". My thoughts exactly.
Or maybe, given that it was inspired by the Almighty God, creator of the universe, it is not quite as easy to read as Dan Brown. Seems reasonable to me.
@@sphagbog
Why would god make it so difficult to read, so confusing ... surely the whole point of a book is to educate , to clarify , not to confuse people
i understand that but listen to this, your flesh does not want to hear anything about God! that’s why you’re uninterested. this is what romans 3:11-18 says:
“there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways,
and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
so no one in their flesh understands God, no one in their flesh even seeks God, their is no fear of God in their eyes, they all tuned away and became worthless. this is true! but look at what james 4:6-10 says:
“But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.”
so we need to be humble, we need to realize we might be wrong. we need to realize that God might be real and that we sinned against that Holy and Perfect God. deuteronomy 4:29 says this:
“But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.”
well maybe you just don’t want to truly find God, and i think i understand that. but listen to this, it’s the best thing that will ever happen in your life. it might be scary, you might have to give up your pride or even your life. but Jesus said in luke 9:24: “for whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Me will save it.” you might not even understand how that could make any sense. but if you just take that leap in the light and truth you will be set free from whatever you have right now and be given something that your mind right now can’t understand. the grace of God and His love for you. john 3:16-21 says:
“for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.”
and romans 10:9-13 says
“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
now idk if you ever read the bible much, but i suggest that you read at least 1 of the 4 gospels matthew, mark, luke, or john. and see what’s true, humble yourself and seek God. taste and see that the Lord is good. faith comes by hearing the word of God, God loves you so much and has thoughts of peace and not of evil for you! God wants to give you a new life, and for you to walk the streets of gold in His kingdom forever.
@@Chris-hx9fw "Your flesh does not want to hear anything..."
Why do Christians have to talk like weirdos?
@@sphagbog Why would an all powerful being have to rely on a fallible, inefficient, equivocal human technology of storage like books?
Bart is genuinely funny, I love it when he has an audience like this who can appreciate his humour.
He got the audience to laugh because there are thousands of variations, as if that meant the Gospels were completely unreliable, then told them actually most of them didn't matter becaus they didn't alter the meaning. So it turned out it wasn't funny after all.
@@Alpine1996 ohh, that was VERY funny
His yuk yuk laugh sounds juvenile to me.
God has the last laugh. I know you have contempt for God's word, that is a normal attitude of the natural heart. Jeremiah 17:9. "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it,?"
When God stops inviting you to walk with Him, then the door of mercy is closed.
"But thou, O LORD, shall laugh at them, thou shall have all the beathen in derision." Psalm 59:8.
He is a compassionate God. Simply ask Him if He is true. If you wan tg Him to reveal Himself to you, He will.
@@judyswiderski2682 The bible is not a self proving document anymore than anyother religous text. So.....
Prove the supernatural events claimed in the pages are real using facts and evidence but b/s.
Be the very first Christian to do that
This man blew my world! I don't know if that's good or bad. God gave us a mind. Yet the majority of pastors act offended when you question them. Bart cause's me to think and ask the hard questions. He is truly a brilliant man.
Ralph Waldo Emerson might be of interest.
No two different persons can be exactly the same because the creator made them beautifully, wonderfully
and fearfully the same ; every person is unique.
Jesus is the only perfect man to follow.
@@Mcsquar3Fearfully? What was that for?
@@Mcsquar3but he wasn't perfect. Dude lost his temper all the time and made a bunch of false prophecies.
@@Mcsquar3what Jesus are you talking about? The entire lecture is pointing out that these are all made up fanfiction stories.
Greetings from Brazil! The day after I returned from my summer vacation at the beach, seven years ago, I decided to study Catholic Theology,
Koine Greek and the Coptic language. Under the umbrella and in the apartment I had read in those 15 days "Misquoting Jesus" and Elaine Pagels' "The Gnostic Gospels" (both in Portuguese). Twice each. The experience has been addictive. Thank you, Dr. Bart.
Why stop there. Why not read the word of God?
The incomparable worf of God.
Not all bibles are inspired! So I speak only of the one that is:
In Psalm 12:6-7 God said He preserved His word. The others do not.
The Authorized Version, later called the King James Bible, shows God truly wants to know you as His! The Bible was written by over 40 writers of various backgrounds over a span of about 1500 years, written in the continents of Asia, Africa and Europe in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, [the Masoretic text].
The New Testament [Antioch,Textus Receptus] was written in Greek. They fit perfectly together to unfold the drama of redemption!!!
There are approximently 24,000 ancient copies of portions of the new testament. These are supported by writings of the church theologians in the first four centuries. There is also external evidence: Tacitus, a Roman historian, and Josephus, a Jewish historian. Both support bible accounts.
This book is not about stories, which are now viewed as fictional, but are true life events.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PERFECTLY FULFILLED PROPHECIES. Fulfilled by Jesus.
HISTORICAL ACCURACY. Many, many about Israel. Some being fulfilled even in our time. Also, Prophecy of Cyrus and prophecy of the city of Tyrus.
Also: 101 SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE.
God wrote about science thousands of years before man did. He tells us ahead of time so that we will know that He is God.
I would suggest that you read some books that counter professor Bart's thesis to see if his claims hold up under rigorous scholarly scrutiny. That's what is missing in this video. No one to give a counter argument.
@@tonysienzant6717 this is taught in every NT studies class on earth. Even the evangelical ones know this stuff… they just excuse it… you preacher ( if they went to theological school ) knows this too… they just don’t tell you about it. 😉
@@judyswiderski2682 I read the Bible frequently, as well as the footnote references and Catholic and Protestant commentaries. Analytics too.
@@cesarcaldas8272
Which bible?
Jesus had amazing stamina to say what he said on the cross. Also an amazing stenographer had to be there and hear it all.
Ronald Boyd
Good one....hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
It takes even more “stamina” come to life after you’ve been killed. You stand 2000 years later in a culture that is so alien to that of the Roman empire and act as if people didn’t know how to use their ears and transcribe the words and actions of events surrounding them. We have exhaustive records of various battles that took place all over the Roman empire and you don’t think someone could have potentially written down what they were observing in a public crucifixion? We think we are the pinnacle of intellect sitting in the 21st-century, yet our ancestors created miraculous and complex systems and structures that still amaze us today. Maybe gain a tiny bit of perspective before saying no one could have done something when you probably have done little to no research on the subject and don’t seem to have an appreciation for the capabilities of the ancient people of our planet.
@@scotthannan8669 Sure, someone could have, assuming they were part of the small number of people who could write. But if they did, we haven't found any trace of those writings, not even rumors. So ... maybe get a bit of perspective yourself?
With collapsing lungs I don't think he could say much.
No. The roman soldiers were all wearing body cams.
if the women ran in fear from the cave and didn't tell anyone how did it get in the book, ?
That's what I was thinking😅
It was added in later. 😂🤣
Women can't keep a secret.
Craig G what a contribution. At least explain yourself
@J H Yes there are hundreds of discrepancies
I'm in awe of this man's ability to reference facts, verses, other people's work AND the vast amount of historical data needed to speak with authority. I have trouble remembering who I met last week!
I mean, if it was your passion and livelihood to remember the names of the people you met last week, and you set aside time to prepare to give a presentation on the names of people you've met, I bet you'd fare much better. And I bet you have some kind of passion that you know a lot about, without having to look things up!
To be fair, he does this for a living. That's an important thing to keep in mind. If I practiced anything for 10,000 hours, I would be expert too.
I guess that he likes this stuff and finds it fascinating, when you enjoy what you're doing it's not a difficulty.
@Binguh Bungah maybe we aren't the dominant species...Global Warming seems to lean toward bacteria surviving long after we're gone.
@@abbreviatedalex2418 repetition is the key memory
Even simple mistakes in punctuation can change the meaning of a phrase or sentence completely! This is true even in modern languages which are usually less precise than ancient languages. Some concepts and words have no direct translation at all in other languages and must be paraphrased. Different scribes would have done this differently and could change the meaning completely.
Majority of people have not read the Bible, even “Christians.” They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear.
And they miss the point of the entire scriptures which is to proclaim Jesus
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
How do you know this verse is related to Jesus?
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Jesus was not the only one in history to ever get crucified and pierced. This method of execution was popular back in their days. And Jesus was not the first one to ever get executed. Anyone who would get executed can explain the situation with this same verse. Why this verse fits Jesus only?!
@@sinan_islam
The bible and Jesus tells us so
Luke 1:70 (KJV)
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luke 10:24 (KJV)
For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them].
Luke 16:31 (KJV)
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Luke 18:31 (KJV)
Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
Luke 24:25 (KJV)
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luke 24:44 (KJV)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.
John 1:45 (KJV)
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
Acts 3:18 (KJV)
But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Acts 3:21 (KJV)
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Acts 3:24 (KJV)
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Acts 13:27 (KJV)
For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled [them] in condemning [him].
Acts 26:22 (KJV)
Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 3:21 (KJV)
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ephesians 2:20 (KJV)
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
Hebrews 1:1 (KJV)
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
1 Peter 1:10 (KJV)
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you:
Not only that so called ex-christians like Bart has never had any relationships with God or Jesus. They have never met him or carried deep meaningful prayers or conversations with God in their whole life. And yet they say they lost faith after reading some inconclusive works based on limited historical materials generated from restricted methods. God is not real to them because they have not met God at all. Only if they opened their heart and listen. If people listened to God and did good things like loving their neighbors truly and sincerely, well the world would be a better place. And yet they complain how horrible the world is when they don't do good things that God asks them to do.
Genealogy of JOSEPH! Why not the genealogy of Mary? - I thought Joseph had nothing to do with it!
Because Joseph would have been the king if the Israelites had been a free people since the days of David. His son, whether natural or adopted would the also have become the rightful king.
@@sophiamcl and somehow decedent of Adam.
Genealogy comes from the father not the mother. If a jewish woman merried a none jew man the child will be a jew with out a tribe. Adoption does not apply. Since Joseph is not the father of j.c., he does not belong to no tribe of juda where the messiah is to come from the line of king David and his son king Salomon. Unless, the Holy Spirite is from the tribe of juda? And it it's o.k. for Mary to commit adultery breaking one commandment with a spirit....
That by the way the guardians that laid with the daughters of man before the flood are in prison awaiting judgment for there transgression.
@ichangedmyname right,but they split off at Nathan, Solomons younger brother; Mary was sired through Nathan, Joseph through Solomon.
@@sophiamcl -- actually no, Joseph was not in line to be king at all. Matthew says Jacob was the father of Joseph, while Luke tells us Heli was the father of Joseph. The bloodlines are complete fiction, what makes you think any of it is true?
I think I listened to this before but it was fascinating and you make it very understandable. Thank u and whoever put it on TH-cam.
i knew this was familiar, but it was only when i saw i'd left a 'like' i realised i'd watched it before! sigh, my memory is collapsing ...
Very informative. Now I feel much more knowledgable and confident in my misquoting of Jesus.
I'm Brazilian I still learning English, so one day I come back here.
Hagalo estimado, vale la pena.
Não tenho certeza se é o mesmo livro em que a palestra é baseada (Misquoting Jesus), mas você pode ler o livro dele "O que Jesus disse? O que Jesus não disse?" que basicamente cobre os mesmos temas e mais detalhadamente
your English language skills are fine...
That's incredible you're learning English. Have fun and we'll see you back here one day soon.
@@espelhogamer eu terminei hoje o livro como Jesus se tornou Deus e vou começar esse hoje mesmo, abriu minha mente
Stone didn't even need to be rolled away if Jesus could walk through walls
He rolled the stone not for himself, but for those with little faith.
By the standards set he could have just appeared to everyone on the planet, and convinced everyone very easily
Schrodingers cat
It would need to be rolled away to let the women in.
it's presentation though innit
Just caught this what, 10 years too late? Fascinating talk. Great Q&A as well. You're making me curious about history, in general, and that's a win for you. I'll look for your lecture circuit next, if you have one.
not too late. It's never too late to learn.
Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" began my long journey into deconstruction. Thank God!
Did you lose your faith while deconstructing it?
@@TheHonestPeanut , no. Deconstruction peeled away all the false teaching I had been raised to believe. I fell in love all over again with God.
@@cheryellemley-mcroy6758 interesting. Thanks for the reply 👍
@@cheryellemley-mcroy6758how do you know your deconstruction was authentic
That's stupid
The Q&A portion of this video is outstanding. I don't think Dr. Ehrman is among the best scholarly presenters I've listened to, but he certainly handled the diverse set of questions extraordinarily well. His responses in the Q&A really demonstrated the depth of his knowledge in the subject area.
How can one '' misquote '' jesus when he left not a written word and everything '' jesus said '' comes from people who never knew him ?
They have ears to listen.
But Bart says the writers of the various text in the Bible did know Jesus, or people who knew him.
Here I am. ARIAN.
The Elect One from EZRA.
Hidden in plain sight the truth was to all of you yet none of you are without excuse to the sin you’ve done against my Father. The unforgivable sin. The Revelation of Daniel I as eye witness fulfilled. Yet as a thief in the night. I hide like my Father commanded. The Final Hour has come. From declaration of the God of Jacob. Selah.
@@mastergamer591 Your pardon? What makes you, specifically, an Elect?
Although there's some doubt as to his authorship, Peter knew Jesus...I guess. I mean who knows if these people even existed?
Actually, now that I think about it, the notable historian, Josephus, recorded Jesus' crucifixion and, I believe, he may have mentioned the altercation at the temple. That's really the most reliable evidence that we have, at all, of Jesus' existence. The Gospels, themselves, are problematic at best. Nevertheless, people have managed to pull a narrative together that satisfies them.
I wish it was that easy for me "to believe". I feel a deep need for God in my life. And, being raised Catholic, I feel a strong inclination to believe that The Son of God is real. I'm as doubtful as anyone though...and my primary passion is for The Truth. I can't force myself to adopt such a serious a conviction just because "Grandma & Grandpa believed it".
I'm paraphrasing the author of, "The Historical Figure of Jesus" (whose name escapes me), who says that "while Jesus is enormously popular today...He wasn't a particularly important person during His own lifetime."
Be well.
As a Christian, I’m not afraid to listen to Ehrman. My thoughts on Biblical inspiration are greatly challenged by him.
Good. Always test your beliefs to strengthen their foundation or free yourself from those that are faulty.
Mr. Bart D. Ehrman, it is always a joy to watch your lectures, thank you ...
Kr Ri You enjoy watching heretics?
@@dalge3733 jeez you're right BURN EM AT THE STAKE!! SMH
@@dalge3733 I've started a separate YT channel to answer skeptics and nay says like Ehrman. I'll keep you posted.
Kr Ri Dr
andrea, the h*retic is a b*rner of souls. As Venerable Fulton Sheen said: "ev*m men sneer at Virtue because Virtue makes vice uncomfortable." Sound familiar?
Unsurprisingly, no Christian in this comment section is actually interesting in addressing anything Erhman is saying. Instead, they just call him wrong. That is not helping me figure out whether he is wrong.
I have just done half of this talk by Ehrman. he's rotten!
You are so enlightening. Finding the history of the Bible and how it came about I think it’s so important. I wish current day so-called christians would study why they believe instead of worrying about the new dress they are going to wear to church on Sunday. It seems they care more about what they do one day a week than why they do it. I find the history of the Bible fascinating and I’m learning a lot thanks to Bart.
Thanks Bart. In case you don’t know it you and your hard work are very much appreciated. I only wish more people would hear your lectures.
and that's just the men worrying about their dresses!
I’m a Muslim. But I really like Bart. It seems he makes logical comments about certain things about which I would like to know.
Watch Cold Case Christianity William Warner Wallace. Alsi David Wood if you are looking for truth, or you can continue listening to what you want to believe but this guy does not have a sound basis for the bible at all, sadly for him
Can you prove allah is the one true living God?
Who forgive sins in Islam?
He really does mislead his popular audiences though - people who don’t have much context to know how his points are pretty empty. Lots of scholars have pointed this out.
@@amandadewet4022 really trinity is false doctrine
@@amandadewet4022 I think this guy saying the true he studied well the bible well then any Christian David wood just talking about Islam not Christianity they bring everything out off context and explain it by their own way
Very informative. Have only been studying the translation of scripture for the past year. I'm atheist. But have a real fascination especially with mistranslation and misunderstanding of translations, more so with modern day bibles.
The real question is, would the Bible be actually less questionable or more questionable if all the texts had all the facts exactly the same, given what we know about eyewitness accounts, memory, pov, etc?
@ 1:05:42, what version of the Bible is he quoting, in 1 John 5:8? I've got "the Spirit, water, and blood," but he's got "the Father, Word, and the Holy Spirit." Does he have a copy of a different manuscript that most Bible translators don't?
Does anyone know?
I have the same thing you do. The NKJV says what he is saying.
I always find Bart Ehrman's lectures so refreshing and interesting. He is truly quite brilliant.
@dom com. how immature - are you like 8 years old? grow up
@dom com. He neither claims to be, nor is he perceived as, a "prophet" in any way, so maybe you should beware of wrong assumptions before spouting them.
He is very brilliant in confusing the people
@@thepalehorse7015 He's confusing to those who are already confused.
@@thepalehorse7015 He's confusing to the ignorant only
Fascinating video, much enjoyed. I understand this is an academic exercise and the questions asked remained in that context. One of the questions seldom asked or encountered in these types of exercises is what does all this mean to people who see credibility in these types of academic presentations and their search for God. I would be interested to know what influence this type of knowledge has in the presenter’s exercise of his faith, if any. Does it weaken it, make it stronger, more challenging, or destroy its/
Bart is an atheist.
"I can't believe a god inspired the bible if he didn't even preserve it."
He did :)
JAMFamily How? And which version of the Bible? The Coptic bible? The King James Bible? The NIV? The ARV?
If he did then he’s shitty at it and can’t be maximally great.
@@jamfamily4287 he didn't do sh*t
@@jamfamily4287 Bro, give up the master's god. Think for yourself.
@@jamfamily4287
No
I found what I was looking for. Thank you very much.
As did I.
Eye opener indeed
Got a few of his books, brillliant. Never seen him speak so this is a good find.
An intentional error might be called a "professional foul".
Professional foul indeed!
Marie Estile ooo
Jayarava Attwood the christian authors added stuff until 325ce when they had a vote!
Is there any similar work done on the old testament? Of course there is, but whom should I check out?
HAha ooh-wee. Source criticism for the Old Testament is VERY complex. I recommend Dr. Joel S. Bader for work on the Documentary Hypothesis
i enjoyed this talk and Q&A, Dr. Ehrman. Have you looked at any of the New Testament manuscripts that have been found in Hebrew or Aramaic? Nehemiah Gordan has many videos, and I suppose books, about his findings.
What someone tells you about the bible, tells you more about them than the bible.
If he has this much interest in disclaiming Jesus What do you think he would find if he asked the Lord to come to him .He will find that the power that hit my being will hit his.Now he has to ask "what is this Spirit?It is The Holy Spirit and it saves.To people who don t believe the Gospel is foolishness.But to those being saved it s the power of God to Salvation.
@frankos rooni how do you know that for sure?
Who pays him you know that?
Jesus is God and he is a.living God.
1 Corinthians 2:14
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
King James Version (KJV)
@@giacomojack1
No, "it" kills, wars, rapes, enslaves...
@@aj-ry7rx
Video or it didn't't happen.
There are some commenters below who don't seem to have watched the video before commenting. One person mentions the Dead Sea Scrolls which have little to do with the New Testament and another makes a point about Hebrew scribes which again has no bearing on what Prof. Ehrman is talking about. Given that the commenters both appear to be xtian fundie apologists it is ironic that the very book they defend but appear not to have read says in Proverbs (18/13) "He that answers a matter before he hears it, it is folly and shame unto him."
prez58 Personally, I am a "xtian fundie" as you say, but I couldn't help but laugh in agreement with you when I read that.
prez58 - This is why they defend it. If someone actually reads it cover to cover then one can enjoy parts and be appalled by others. On long stretches it is boring, repetitive and not least written for people who are dead about 1800 year. The new testament authors wanted to share their view of Jesus and they indeed had very different views about him. It shows that they did not know the person nor what actually happened. It had to fit their narrative.
there is the new testament as well as the old
I only needed to watch 6 minutes into the video to hear at least 3 very basic errors, by this supposed "expert". I'll watch the rest shortly. However ... 1) We do know who Mark was. He was the young man who escaped naked. Mark 14:50-52. ... He was later with Peter in Babylon, and probably got a lot of information from him at that time. (Peter, by the way, spent a lot of time with Jesus, in case you didn't know that titbit).
2) Where did he get that unbelievable 90% illiteracy figure from? He made it up! He's worse that what he is trying to denounce! All Jewish children were taught to read from the start. Mark himself wrote this book in Rome when visiting Paul (as he correctly states) and he wrote parts in both Latin and Greek to explain some Jewish terms, phrases and customs, as it was intended for Romans and Greeks to read. Romans could read - that's how they got to be an empire. Greeks could read - that's how they got to be an empire too. Why would books be painstakingly copied if no-one could read them??? !!! Just because the dark ages had high illiteracy among the poor in Europe, does NOT mean that people were totally uneducated in 1st century in the Roman empire.
3) In those times, there were people called "Copyists", (also known as Scribes). Their profession was accurate copying. Legal docs, Contracts, and anything else that came their way, such as books. Where do you think other non- Biblical papyrus and parchment docs got to our museums? Are they all false too? --- During copying and, as time moved on, translating, changes were necessarily made to keep the language understandable and "modern". However, the essence, the meaning, was not changed. By comparing many copies of the same texts from different times, you can actually see how accurate they are. --- I haven't seen the Dead Sea Scroll comment you mention, but it is a good example of this fact of accurate copying, when you compare them to ms. of the same texts made hundreds of years on.
So. One basic error every 2 minutes. About par for these bloated egotistical "experts" who wouldn't know their own names unless they had it tattooed on their arms. I look forward to laughing through the rest of this joke of a lecture.
Actually, Erdman did include the Tanach (Torah) when he claimed "all ancient documents follow this rule" (paraphrased). I agree with your comment of the dead sea scrolls, however.
Ironically, I found myself watching this video after the president of a baptist theological seminary and a Presbyterian minister both affirmed what Bart said. That we have no original autographs of the scriptures and the bible I have is not inerrant. Why would they tell me this? You ask. They were both making arguments against exclusive psalmolody in worship. If we have no inspired textx then we cannot sing inspired songs.
Dont believe
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
Pali canon?
do not believe comments in you tube then, eh?
@@theHentySkepticYuuuuup. That's the point, eh? TH-cam, Online, Schoolbook, Religious Book, Pastor, intellectual..... use your intellect, reason, logic discernment and your own experience with the words of advice... with any and everything you hear, read- no matter the source. Obviously TH-cam would be included. "But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Good advice, then don't believe that Buddha guy.
All mans wisdom is foolishness.
My question is about the witnesses, like in the birth of Jesus, the baptism of Jesus, the temptation of Jesus, and the trial of Jesus. In all of these occasions, which appear in all four gospels though different, my question is how do the authors, qualify the statements of the four when the four weren't there to witness any of these events. Nobody would have went into Pilate's place where Jesus' trials were taking place, as with the other things mentioned. Sorry, bad punctuation, I'm no scholar.
You might like the book, "The Trial of Jesus of Nazareth" by S. G. F. Brandon. It sheds light on the part of your comment that refers to Pilate.
Luk 1:1-4
(1) Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
(2) Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
(3) It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
(4) That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
You can't see the answer to your question in his beginning of the speech?? God inspired His Word. It's either true, or not.
AmandaBrecc the gospel of John’s author (John), declares, “35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.” John 19:35
Super important!
The author of Revelation makes a similar declaration so I believe those two books and build my foundation of doctrine from those two books.
Those are the only two books I consider scripture in the NT
You are one of my favorites, please continue in your great work. I love your books because they are so informative and interesting. You are a truth-seeker.
Truth is when you pray to God and He comes down.
you dont have to seek for the truth very deeply to find Ehrman's mistakes
At 1:14:00 he says "The reality is that most academics don't know how to talk to a normal human being." So true. For years Alan Alda has been involved in various efforts to enable people with poor communication skills to find ways to make themselves understood by people who don't share their expertise or experience. Alda wrote a very good book about it that I recommend to academics or anyone who deals with this. (Not an employee or anything, just a fan.) I don't know the rules about recommending a specific title on YT so I'll just say the book title starts with 'If I knew what you were saying..." Also, great talk Bart.
If I understood you, would I have this look?
Prof. Ehrman delivers another thought-provoking and logical lecture. This phenomenon of cascading errors in translation and transcription can be axiomatized with Information Theory. Excellent and worthwhile video.
It's fanfiction. No different that Dianetics by Elron Hubbard of Scientology. That's the point.
The 'errors' are full stops left out, or a comma misplaced, or Jesus wept, or Jesus cried. they are the sort of varients he is making his money out of
Ehrman knows his stuff. That's undeniable. Christians should not feel threatened by what paleontology and historians are discovering
Do you have to degrade yourself so much? By using insulting language? Are you that disturbed in your mind? Take a break. Get out and breathe deeply.... Relax. Your life is way too short to get so unbelievably worked up.
ERNEST GONZALEZ MONTERROSA as a follower of Christ, we don't fight for our cause ,we die for what I believe. Experience with Christ is so beautiful,it's so amazing, truth cannot be hidden.jesus lives & loves.
ERNEST GONZALEZ MONTERROSA
You mean _paleography,_ not _paleontology._ 😉
Allington Marakan You lashed out first, grow up and don’t be a hypocrite.
@Ernest that is absolutely correct. Some of these people feel so threatened they quote the very verses they need to examine.
If you go to a channel posted by apologists, they mostly ban comments. That says much about their belief.
Wassily Kandinsky Anything that challenges their belief is of the "Devil."
@@Mansandanfan4335 because a born again Christian knows God and therefore recognizes the work of the devil.
Heaven and hell are real. We all find out in the end.
aj 777, yeah,even though hell is amiss translation.
Well, here is a holyroller who is willing to be stupid and silly RIGHT OUT LOUD. Yay for you. Now go back to feeling your way through life.
@@aj-ry7rx unfortunally you gonna end up in hell for praying to a false god all the time instead of Teutates, but its never to late to find the light. May the force be with you.
Thanks, for an engaging and informative lecture. Next step might be to discover how ancient society could be so complex that every group sounds simple.
the subject should be a must taught in every seminary school throught the world.
We would have very few pastors if they were taught the truth in seminary.
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
As said, the 'errors' are punctuation errors or differences in choices Jesus wept, versus Jesus cried
@@joandark2 the vast majority yes. But the minor differences between. "Jesus wept" and " Jesus cried" could lead to totally different interpretation of the scripture. because the words are synonyms but are not identical. Cried could give the impression of anger or sadness; tears or yelling. While wept implies a deep sadness or morning with tears. The idea that these tiny seemingly insignificant changes happened repeatedly generation after generation for hundreds of years is the problem. Not only that but the bible was clearly altered over time. The last verses of Revelation are proof of that. Why discourage someone from doing something that has never happened before. And why wouldn't the little punctuation mistakes matter if it says it's self not to change a single jot or tittle.
@@chrisb.7787 bart and many miss the entire point of the scriptures. The interpretation is about Jesus and nothing changes that.
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
************************
Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Mark 1:2 (KJV)
As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Luke 1:70 (KJV)
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luke 10:24 (KJV)
For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them].
Luke 16:31 (KJV)
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Luke 18:31 (KJV)
Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
Luke 24:25 (KJV)
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luke 24:44 (KJV)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.
John 1:45 (KJV)
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
This professor's lectures are always fascinating.
I admire the patience of this guy dealing with these pedantic questioners.
Allan Hegyes
Bart the pedantic one here....all his knowledge is but child’s play !!! The questioners asked clever questions that Bart couldn’t answer !!!
Yes, because your religion is above reproach and no one can question the immutable and infallible word of your Lord. Yes, how petty of these questioners to even imply the most minor of inconsistencies in your perfect scriptures.
Yes, mark lewis, The Church is Indefectible and created all you know and take for granted. you can't make your shame over sin go away.
Christians read: Just their favorite verses Bart Ehrman reads: The whole thing.
Thank you for explaining in simple English
I read it couple of times o.t/n.t. (yes also genealogy) but yes, i also have experienced christians focusing at what they like, making those favourites their religion..
Why am I even commenting
Don't you love it when they quote verses to prove the Trinity lol?
The thing about “the bible” is it was never intended to be a single book and there are so many books that have been taken out of it. Not to mention all the translation errors both accidental and intentional. It’s a wonder how anyone takes any of them to be 100% the word of any god.
And GOD reads thoughts.
There are literally no writings about Jesus until 40 years after his supposed death....does anybody remember anything anybody said accurately after 40 years?...an entire generation
Actually, Messianic creeds about the life, miracles, death and resurrection of JESUS were circulating 2-3 years after JESUS ascended into Heaven. The Book of Galatians was written in 47 or 48 AD.
The Koran wasn't written for almost 200 years after the death of Mohammed.
@@J0HN_3_16 exactly 47 or 48 AD.... so me saying 40 was generous
@@proverbalizer no, you were misleading. JESUS was crucified around 33 AD. So the first New Testament book was written 14-15 years later. As I previously mentioned, writings about JESUS were widely circulated within 2 or 3 years of HIS ascension.
The evidence for JESUS is overwhelming if you are willing to examine it
So glad to have found your channel! I’ve been looking for a couple of years to hear from a scholar about man made changes to the NT, and I’m sure the OT. Absolute joy to listen to you, very engaging and entertaining. I am a believer in God and Jesus, but I search for the truth. Thank you and God bless 😊
I suggest you read the book "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsh
Test Paul if you believe in him as apostle.
It's astonishing the effort that went into creating a book in the ancient world (just one copy of the book). !
This should be mandatory viewing in schools.
Absolutely!!!
@@cjtjets5941 but not all the kids will be christians. i don;t believe in christianity but i think it might be a bit contrevorsial to force our opinion on others. everyone canhave an opinion. though this one is clearly teh right opinion
Along with Christopher Hitchens
@@ahmednabeel1114 wrote: " i don;t believe in christianity but i think it might be a bit contrevorsial to force our opinion on others."
What on earth makes you think that being TAUGHT about a different way of viewing an ancient supposedly holy book is equivalent to having an "opinion" FORCED onto students????? While we're on the subject, it's scholarly work, so MORE than a mere 'opinion'!
@@ahmednabeel1114 how is it „forcing an opinion on kids“ by just showing a video though?
He's such an interesting scholar. I've read three of his books and should treat myself to another for my winter reading. Thank you, Professor Ehrman.
@G Will -- I can handle a god that wants to torture those that disagree with him for eternity. If that is the type of deity you desire to follow, then it is you who can't handle the torture.
This guy is very bright and thorough
Check him out. he isnt very accurate,
I enjoy hearing Erhmann talk. He can come to my church any day. I'm always here.
@8:00 Did the copyists also believe that they were being acted upon by divine inspiration? If so, did that mean they might have also believed that mistakes they made weren't mistakes at all, but were from the divine inspiration 'modifying" or "correcting' earlier mistakes?
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
Quran 2 : 79
The koran is also okay with slavery, religious persecution, and child marriage.
@@pineapplepen540 thanks for providing proof of your claims
@@abhmd4481 Mohammed was a slaver and pedophile who persecuted religious minorities. These are basic facts about the man. Do you mean exact verses?
Lies
@Testament Faith
Which Gospel are you talking about.🤔
Thank you so much Dr. Bart Ehrman. Very enlightening indeed. I just might be headed towards being agnostic myself. I learned a lot from this episode.
"Very few scholars realized this was a problem..." Exactly!
He is such a super good story teller. I am listening to his talk while writing my thesis.
Thank you sir for your time and work, you have answered countless questions for me over the years and I truly appreciate it, best wishes from Tennessee
I have the greatest admiration for Professor Bart Ehrman. His continual quest for the TRUTH, based on intensive historical research is inspiring. Dr. Ehrman is so dedicated to his profession, his achievements are so extensive, his presentations so fluid, that he rates at the top of his field in my opinion.
Dr Spaseebo But his chuckling assumption that ignorance is not in NJ, only in NC or the South is naïve. How can a truthseeker have missed the numerous idiocies of the Northeast?
@new name Debunked by whom specifically, and on what points of contention?
Dr Spaseebo You must not be I’m his field, then. 🤣
McDermott Patrick Seriously? nobody can answer that in this platform; it would take several dozen scholarly articles. His mistakes and misreadings and historical slights of hand are too legion to categorize. Further, you have to be a professional in this field and know the literature, the articles of contention, and the various Scriptures well enough to apprehend all the failings in his arguments.
Suffice it to say: he’s a hack. But he’s honestly too mediocre? to know what a hack he is.
There are such people in academia.
@@dorothysay8327I'm glad you're not a hack I bet you are very pleasant in real life if you even exist
Where did he go during the unaccounted 18 years? The big brother house?
He was backpacking through Europe
I would love to take his class.
Join his blog, it does not cost much, it all goes to charity, and you get the mans thoughts on a very regular basis. I have been a member for 6 years.
would you please debate N.T. Wright? Or Craig Keener? Or Ben Witherington?
I can't help bringing up "Life of Brian."
"What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?"
“He has a wife you know... do you know what she’s called?”
The name brian was carefully selected.
Could be misspelt as brain.
Much lack of in Life of Brian.
@@markrymanowski719 Just remember, you're an individual.
"Always look on the bright side of life".
Dr. Dan Brubaker in a recent video spoke very highly of your work. Consequently, I stopped by for a preview.
One thing missing here is that the book were originally oral, not written and regional
This idea is directly addressed in the Q&A. So it is not “missing here.”
I disagree, Shemot/Exodus has examples in Paleo Hebrew, the written and oral versions alongside.
Who is the John Miller he spoke about, and how can I get my hands on his research?
He clearly says John Mill and not miller
This is excellent ..upto 20 minutes ...still watching ....Really shows how the bible developed..
i laughed so hard at that "mum sometimes you really tick me off".
Mikhail Kalashnikov That joke makes an excellent Monty Python sketch!
I see that you are a master debater, what do you debate?
See I would have went with "Okay according to Aristotle Jesus died twice, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. NEXT."
1:03:29 "The Da Vinci Code says..."
Hey hey hey! I'm the only one who make jokes here, alright?
Amazing amazing amazing... To Christian brothers and sisters I would love to recommend Tovia Singer’s videos
Bert Ehrman is LEGENDARY!!
@Zakar Naiky cry harder 😂
Bert Ehrmam believes that the gospels teach that Jesus is God and that Jesus was crucified..
What do Muslims cherry-pick information more from? Ehrman or the Bible?
54:09 -- what book ?
He mentioned a few cases of having versions with differences between them, but it seems like if there are as many mistakes as he says would be made by making copies, we'd have many different versions of every book. How many different versions of each book of the New Testament have been found? To clarify, assume that the oldest version of the book of Mark we know about was written in 200. Assume that the second oldest was written in 250. How did those differ? If there are, say, 20 originals that we know of and 17 of them are identical, wouldn't that argue against his contention that every version would be different because every copy had mistakes?
"Theologians show no interest in textual criticisms at all. No knowledge, no interest it." In other words, the people who claim to understand the word of the gods don't understand how those words got there in the first place.
Patently false. There are theologians and researchers out there that Erhman refuses to debate.
This is one of the best lectures I've ever heard. So good!
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You need to read more LOL
so I haven't started the video yet but I'll still want a pretty simplistic answer to the question what's your opinion on the Gospel of Thomas in relation to Old Buddha and Vedic texts. Where do you stand on the Jesus seminar from the 90s did that whole thing still have any relevance
This is a TEN yr old video! And you demand answers? Wow…..he ain’t gonna answer…..think and research FOR YOURSELF. Can ya do that?
@@6Haunted-Days if he has a active account then he should. I have my opinion based on my own research already. The earth is not flat incel.
Amazing lecture...great Prof. Ehrman...it's a great job and great lecture..
Excellent and interesting lecture, Professor Ehrman. Many thanks!
That isn't necessary, C 19. Most people simply nod graciously at me and murmur, "My Queen..."
amsterdamsel-happy for you queen
@@karlos6628 oil..
Absolutely brilliant, and crystal clear. Thank you.
Just want to say, big fan, keep up the work.
1:25:35 btw. What happened to the gifts (including gold) that the holy 3 wise men gave to Jesus as he was born?
Round trip holiday from Bethlehem to Eygpt and back to Gallilee.
When you see this kind of lecture by great christian scholar proving that there was 1, 2, 3 or rather more cases of story development and addition of what wasn't there before.... you know what! this is what God tells us 1400 yrs ago... woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, "this is from God'',
Demha Gurhan what timeline are you on?
Great lecture about one of my favorite subjects by a great speaker! Quite an enjoyable experience for me!
How do you know that the second scribe didn't make a mistake that returns the copy to it's original form?
Kindly add subtitles to this channel including Urdu. Thanks
Very powerful..highly scholarly and scientific presentation of prof. Ehrman.
That part about John 3:3 was one of the most interesting things i have ever heard
But Romans 8 tells us why it's TRUE. As does acts 2.
1:29:45
@@karenfulk191 John was the latest gospel. Romans was probably recorded before and in Greek. Also the Gospels were in Greek. Not Aramaic.
Where can i find contemporary historical evidence for Paul? Hhe travelled extensively, met kings and governors and established churches and all, yet i can find no reference to him from any sourrces. Not one. Outside of the " letters" that showed up sometime in the mid to late second century...
Of course you can't find historical evidence for Paul. You merely asked but did little to follow through with actions.
If you really research you will find Him.
btw: contemporary historical evidence
Try historical evidence vs contemporary. Paul definitely falls into 'historical' category.
Saul was renamed Paul. Maybe search for Saul. Lol As I stated above it seems you didn't try very hard.
Wow!! Good One Sir!!! Thank You For Your Information!!!! Peace, Cheers!!!!