+Ibrahim kd Did you read Sura 19 verse 33? Here you see clearly, that the Quran is lying, because Muslims claim, that Jesus never died and also said, that Jesus did never sin, so He did not lie.
Well, we as Christians know, that not everyone has to die and that there is an everlasting life and the resurrection. Tell me the reason, why Jesus would have to die, when HE never sinned? What sense would life make in the end, when there is no everlasting life?
What would Jesus be judged for? According to the Quran, Jesus was never touched by the devil, so HE never sinned. What right would God have to judge him and what for. That doesn't make sense to me at all.
Because Joseph would have been the king if the Israelites had been a free people since the days of David. His son, whether natural or adopted would the also have become the rightful king.
Genealogy comes from the father not the mother. If a jewish woman merried a none jew man the child will be a jew with out a tribe. Adoption does not apply. Since Joseph is not the father of j.c., he does not belong to no tribe of juda where the messiah is to come from the line of king David and his son king Salomon. Unless, the Holy Spirite is from the tribe of juda? And it it's o.k. for Mary to commit adultery breaking one commandment with a spirit.... That by the way the guardians that laid with the daughters of man before the flood are in prison awaiting judgment for there transgression.
@@sophiamcl -- actually no, Joseph was not in line to be king at all. Matthew says Jacob was the father of Joseph, while Luke tells us Heli was the father of Joseph. The bloodlines are complete fiction, what makes you think any of it is true?
This man blew my world! I don't know if that's good or bad. God gave us a mind. Yet the majority of pastors act offended when you question them. Bart cause's me to think and ask the hard questions. He is truly a brilliant man.
No two different persons can be exactly the same because the creator made them beautifully, wonderfully and fearfully the same ; every person is unique. Jesus is the only perfect man to follow.
Dont believe “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
@@theHentySkepticYuuuuup. That's the point, eh? TH-cam, Online, Schoolbook, Religious Book, Pastor, intellectual..... use your intellect, reason, logic discernment and your own experience with the words of advice... with any and everything you hear, read- no matter the source. Obviously TH-cam would be included. "But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
The following is brilliant. When Erhman asked his students how many of them believed the Bible is the inspired word of God, the entire class put up their hands. When Erhman asked them how many of them had read the Bible from cover to cover, only a few hands went up. Ehrman commented, “You’d think that if people believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, they would want to know what God had to say.”
It's a very important point. I wonder how many people know the whole Bible completely by heart. I bet the answer is none. If you ask this question about the Qur'an, you'll find many know it completely by heart. In it God says: 'And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?' 54:17
Reading all the books that make up the bible is one sure fired way to end up being an atheist... probably the main reason that the church outlawed anyone having a bible other than ordained priests.
It just confirms that no thought or reflection goes into fundamentalist dogma. I'm a Taoist, but that realization only came to me after having read as much Taoist writing as I could find, many times, and after much reflection and meditation (AKA prayer). It took years. The students referred to here evidently signed on with fundamental Christianity because someone above them in the social hierarchy imparted to them the understanding that it was a good idea. It's unfortunate. What results is a social support network built around aggressive political activism, without understanding, and without any path to Grace. I believe that accounts for the fact that fundamentalists appear to "believe" so many things that contradict the teachings of Jesus (who, BTW, was an ideal Taoist in fact, if not in name).
I really respect this man. He doesn’t force his beliefs or criticize. He just give the information and leave it up to the listener. I as s believer love listening to him
@Nasir Aameen Wait, as a “believer” you love listening to a guy who is a non believer, that denies and blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ name and slanders the truth about the deity of Christ?🤦🏾♂️ you are definitely a Luke Warm Christian. Revelation 3:15-17 (KJV) “”15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:”” A true Believer should never “love” listening to someone blaspheme Gods name.
well he's a scholar and doesn't believe what he has studied. Seems he can't come to grips with natural laws that God created. Yin/yang, good/bad, happiness/sadness. He thinks God can only exist if the world were ice cream cones and puppy tails.
To be a believer, you must be born again, new creature, called Regeneration. Webster 1828 Dictionary formerly named, Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary Regeneration: Reproduction, the act of making new. In Theology; new birth by the grace of God.; that change by which the natural enmity of man toward God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are IMPLANTED in the heart. He saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3.
@@AtreyuKhalilevery quote you use is incorrect and has no relation to any original text. You can't blaspheme something that wasn't correct to begin with.
Even simple mistakes in punctuation can change the meaning of a phrase or sentence completely! This is true even in modern languages which are usually less precise than ancient languages. Some concepts and words have no direct translation at all in other languages and must be paraphrased. Different scribes would have done this differently and could change the meaning completely.
Before I discovered the world of former believers turn atheist/agnostic I really thought I was on an island. Listening to people like him make me feel a sense of validation that I never knew I would need on this path of life. I tried to describe to my friend that the eras I saw in the Bible became to great for me to continue to believe in god. She told me she just ignored the parts of the Bible I was talking about because at the end of the day “man could have messed up some things because after all we are human and only god is perfect”. I responded, “How would the god that created the universe, the massive amazing universe not make sure his precious word was preserved for all time. We are suppose to base salvation on what it teaches. You can’t convince me that a god that can create the marvels of the world and a galaxy that is so massive that even traveling at the speed of light we couldn’t cross it in our lifetime. It would take 200,000 years and that’s just our galaxy. So a god who can create these things would make sure that no errors would distort his word”. I was one of those Christian that bought into the belief that Jesus was the bread of life and I needed to know his word and hide it in my heart. So to be spiritually fed and transform I would renew my mind by sitting at the feet of Jesus and seeking his truth through the word. But to my complete and utter anguish it caused legit turmoil. From that I fasted and interceded because I thought I must be under demonic attack. I must have a spirit devotion, of Jezebel, or a spirit of Leviathan. I went to leaders and humbly shared the despair and doubt that reading the Bible was causing me. But to no avail I couldn’t get free from this dark cloud. I would blare worship music to drown out the thoughts of doubt. I was quite literally trying to get myself to STOP THINKING. Moral of the story is decided to start thinking and allowed myself to accept I am not a believer. I am finally free. Without a doubt free from oppression! It kind of makes me giggle thinking that back in the day if I had talk to myself I would have felt bad for me and thought, “man she is deceived”.
I have asked myself the same questions too. I found that if you sort out answers from thd bible on foundational questions like what to do to be saved the answers do not always correspond from writer to writer. I felt just like you that at least those things should be clear, if eternal fate of persons depend on it. I find that there really is no way of establishing clarity. I believe that all religions are man made, based on culture of the founders. They offer wisdom, but sometimes in error. In the end we all use the filter of our conscience and personal experience to decide right from wrong and how to walk this path called life. I still believe that there is a God, and that better than in any book, God is revealed through his ever evolving creation.
@@Matira269 Yes, and one can't really BEGIN any of that without some agreement and proper, useful DETAIL on why any soul was put into jeopardy to begin with, however?
I left Christianity for similar reason/mindset. You’d expect omniscient and omnipotent God to preserve his word better etc. And since i was a fundamentalist Christian who believed in inerrancy of the bible, when i really came across the real contradictions and errors, that put me into denial and a shock. It took me 3 years to fully deconvert. Ultimately, What brought me out of Christianity was lack of evidence and just flat out wrong history and contradictions etc. But it on the other hand, biblical world view seriously conflicted with my philosophy. Such as just, loving and omnipotent god throwing people into hell for unbelief. Why can’t God punish people for finite amount of time since their sins were finite? I remember Some pastor defending eternal hell by saying “you committed sin against an eternal God and so just punishment is eternal one”. Yeah, no. Screw that. Why would you judge the sinner’s sentence based on god’s eternalness? You created us this way and we were brought into this existence not even by our own choice and you want to send us to eternal torment? And what if you were born into Islamic family? Into Hinduism? Your location of birth is most likely going to your eternal fate? What about children who die at like 15? They goto hell? Get the f... out. Christians will do these mental gymnastics to defend god. Nah. I dont buy it.
@@BearFruit90 you love mankind more than its Creator. Got Free will. Your privilege. Just check and see if you can love EVERY ONE in mankind without leaving anybody out.
It takes even more “stamina” come to life after you’ve been killed. You stand 2000 years later in a culture that is so alien to that of the Roman empire and act as if people didn’t know how to use their ears and transcribe the words and actions of events surrounding them. We have exhaustive records of various battles that took place all over the Roman empire and you don’t think someone could have potentially written down what they were observing in a public crucifixion? We think we are the pinnacle of intellect sitting in the 21st-century, yet our ancestors created miraculous and complex systems and structures that still amaze us today. Maybe gain a tiny bit of perspective before saying no one could have done something when you probably have done little to no research on the subject and don’t seem to have an appreciation for the capabilities of the ancient people of our planet.
@@scotthannan8669 Sure, someone could have, assuming they were part of the small number of people who could write. But if they did, we haven't found any trace of those writings, not even rumors. So ... maybe get a bit of perspective yourself?
Jesus is In all of the scriptures John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus's birth Micah 5 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 2:5 (KJV) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, Jesus's suffering Psalm 22 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns Jesus arriving In Jerusalem Zechariah 9:9 (KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Matthew 21:5 (KJV) 21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. John 12:14-15 (KJV) 12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Psalm 22 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns ************************ Psalm 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Psalm 34:20 (KJV) He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. John 19:36 (KJV) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Judas: Psalm 41:9 (KJV) Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me. Psalm 55 12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: 13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. 14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company Zec 11 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD Matthew 26: 14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him Crucifixion Psalm 22:18 (KJV) They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. Luke 23:34 (KJV) Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalm 22:1 (KJV) [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? Mark 15:34 (KJV) And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 26:54 (KJV) But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? Matthew 26:56 (KJV) But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. Mark 14:49 (KJV) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:32 (KJV) And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? Luke 24:45 (KJV) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words Acts 2 29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ Acts 18:28 (KJV) For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 1:2 (KJV) (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Romans 16:26 (KJV) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Matthew 2:23 (KJV) And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 11:13 (KJV) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
@@helengraham7472 The great white throne is not here yet. You take salvation so lightly. Jesus did not. Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6. Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online. 'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted. Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15. Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, pride hates it! When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners. Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5. Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15. When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus. PS. Other apostles were baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
I'm in awe of this man's ability to reference facts, verses, other people's work AND the vast amount of historical data needed to speak with authority. I have trouble remembering who I met last week!
I mean, if it was your passion and livelihood to remember the names of the people you met last week, and you set aside time to prepare to give a presentation on the names of people you've met, I bet you'd fare much better. And I bet you have some kind of passion that you know a lot about, without having to look things up!
I have only been a Christian for a year, but during this time, I happened to come across the Japanese translation of your book, Misquoting Jesus, at a library. I read it with great interest and subsequently delved into the original English version. As expected, there are subtle "distortions" in the translation from English to Japanese. Nevertheless, as a Japanese reader, I found the translation both engaging and impressive. Considering this, even today, I can understand how early copyists, without access to modern conveniences like photocopiers or PDFs and instead relying on the laborious process of manual transcription, might have been tempted to alter texts based on their own interpretations-much like the scribes of the 4th-century Vatican Manuscript mentioned in your book.
My question is about the witnesses, like in the birth of Jesus, the baptism of Jesus, the temptation of Jesus, and the trial of Jesus. In all of these occasions, which appear in all four gospels though different, my question is how do the authors, qualify the statements of the four when the four weren't there to witness any of these events. Nobody would have went into Pilate's place where Jesus' trials were taking place, as with the other things mentioned. Sorry, bad punctuation, I'm no scholar.
Luk 1:1-4 (1) Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, (2) Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word; (3) It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, (4) That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
AmandaBrecc the gospel of John’s author (John), declares, “35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.” John 19:35 Super important!
The author of Revelation makes a similar declaration so I believe those two books and build my foundation of doctrine from those two books. Those are the only two books I consider scripture in the NT
Greetings from Brazil! The day after I returned from my summer vacation at the beach, seven years ago, I decided to study Catholic Theology, Koine Greek and the Coptic language. Under the umbrella and in the apartment I had read in those 15 days "Misquoting Jesus" and Elaine Pagels' "The Gnostic Gospels" (both in Portuguese). Twice each. The experience has been addictive. Thank you, Dr. Bart.
Why stop there. Why not read the word of God? The incomparable worf of God. Not all bibles are inspired! So I speak only of the one that is: In Psalm 12:6-7 God said He preserved His word. The others do not. The Authorized Version, later called the King James Bible, shows God truly wants to know you as His! The Bible was written by over 40 writers of various backgrounds over a span of about 1500 years, written in the continents of Asia, Africa and Europe in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, [the Masoretic text]. The New Testament [Antioch,Textus Receptus] was written in Greek. They fit perfectly together to unfold the drama of redemption!!! There are approximently 24,000 ancient copies of portions of the new testament. These are supported by writings of the church theologians in the first four centuries. There is also external evidence: Tacitus, a Roman historian, and Josephus, a Jewish historian. Both support bible accounts. This book is not about stories, which are now viewed as fictional, but are true life events. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PERFECTLY FULFILLED PROPHECIES. Fulfilled by Jesus. HISTORICAL ACCURACY. Many, many about Israel. Some being fulfilled even in our time. Also, Prophecy of Cyrus and prophecy of the city of Tyrus. Also: 101 SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE. God wrote about science thousands of years before man did. He tells us ahead of time so that we will know that He is God.
I would suggest that you read some books that counter professor Bart's thesis to see if his claims hold up under rigorous scholarly scrutiny. That's what is missing in this video. No one to give a counter argument.
@@tonysienzant6717 this is taught in every NT studies class on earth. Even the evangelical ones know this stuff… they just excuse it… you preacher ( if they went to theological school ) knows this too… they just don’t tell you about it. 😉
@SuperDukka You have some really bad misunderstandings. I would advise you to think objectively about all those points.. If you can refute them yourself, they aren't valid points.. Keep in mind that a carnal person is always going to have difficulty understanding words inspired by Spirit-filled men.
@SuperDukka If you want me to refute any 3 points, pick your top 3 and I will explain them.. Not going to post refutations of 12 points while I'm on mobile.
Mistranslated words can have big impact. Young maiden was translated to virgin. Big impact. Reed sea was translated to red sea, another major mistake. To them it was small mistake, since those texts were written for that populace of that time and place
He got the audience to laugh because there are thousands of variations, as if that meant the Gospels were completely unreliable, then told them actually most of them didn't matter becaus they didn't alter the meaning. So it turned out it wasn't funny after all.
God has the last laugh. I know you have contempt for God's word, that is a normal attitude of the natural heart. Jeremiah 17:9. "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it,?" When God stops inviting you to walk with Him, then the door of mercy is closed. "But thou, O LORD, shall laugh at them, thou shall have all the beathen in derision." Psalm 59:8. He is a compassionate God. Simply ask Him if He is true. If you wan tg Him to reveal Himself to you, He will.
@@judyswiderski2682 The bible is not a self proving document anymore than anyother religous text. So..... Prove the supernatural events claimed in the pages are real using facts and evidence but b/s. Be the very first Christian to do that
I’ve challenged a few people on this now and they had absolutely no idea there were any discrepancies at all. They didn’t even believe me when I told them.
@NotTheMaestro They didn't believe you? Why should that bother you if what you want is to make them not believe something? Oh, I get it-they should not believe only what YOU want don't want them to believe, LOL! That's called "manipulation".
That's because they are indoctrinated. Its hard to reach people like that because they more than likely were taught that as kids and grew up around people they were close to who had the same views.
And they miss the point of the entire scriptures which is to proclaim Jesus Jesus is In all of the scriptures John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus's birth Micah 5 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 2:5 (KJV) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, Jesus's suffering Psalm 22 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns Jesus arriving In Jerusalem Zechariah 9:9 (KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Matthew 21:5 (KJV) 21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. John 12:14-15 (KJV) 12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Psalm 22 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns ************************ Psalm 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Psalm 34:20 (KJV) He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. John 19:36 (KJV) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Judas: Psalm 41:9 (KJV) Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me. Psalm 55 12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: 13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. 14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company Zec 11 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD Matthew 26: 14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him Crucifixion Psalm 22:18 (KJV) They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. Luke 23:34 (KJV) Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalm 22:1 (KJV) [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? Mark 15:34 (KJV) And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 26:54 (KJV) But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? Matthew 26:56 (KJV) But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. Mark 14:49 (KJV) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:32 (KJV) And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? Luke 24:45 (KJV) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words Acts 2 29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ Acts 18:28 (KJV) For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 1:2 (KJV) (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Romans 16:26 (KJV) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Matthew 2:23 (KJV) And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 11:13 (KJV) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
How do you know this verse is related to Jesus? Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Jesus was not the only one in history to ever get crucified and pierced. This method of execution was popular back in their days. And Jesus was not the first one to ever get executed. Anyone who would get executed can explain the situation with this same verse. Why this verse fits Jesus only?!
@@sinan_islam The bible and Jesus tells us so Luke 1:70 (KJV) As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: Luke 10:24 (KJV) For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them]. Luke 16:31 (KJV) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 18:31 (KJV) Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. Luke 24:25 (KJV) Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Luke 24:44 (KJV) And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me. John 1:45 (KJV) Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. Acts 3:18 (KJV) But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Acts 3:21 (KJV) Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Acts 3:24 (KJV) Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Acts 13:27 (KJV) For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled [them] in condemning [him]. Acts 26:22 (KJV) Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 3:21 (KJV) But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Ephesians 2:20 (KJV) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone]; Hebrews 1:1 (KJV) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 1 Peter 1:10 (KJV) Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you:
That's okay as far as it goes, it's just what we do with the news and most everything else. But the questions should be answered to your own satisifaction by honest study of what Jesus has done and why, by reading the Bible.
WRT "...They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear..." yeah, the MAGA heads enthusiastic about donald trump, seem to be of a similar mentality. I guess a tweaked version of reality makes them feel better about how little they have accomplished in their lives or something. Not that Trump would especially value anything they do, other than help to inflate his own ego.
The real question is, would the Bible be actually less questionable or more questionable if all the texts had all the facts exactly the same, given what we know about eyewitness accounts, memory, pov, etc?
Just caught this what, 10 years too late? Fascinating talk. Great Q&A as well. You're making me curious about history, in general, and that's a win for you. I'll look for your lecture circuit next, if you have one.
At 1:14:00 he says "The reality is that most academics don't know how to talk to a normal human being." So true. For years Alan Alda has been involved in various efforts to enable people with poor communication skills to find ways to make themselves understood by people who don't share their expertise or experience. Alda wrote a very good book about it that I recommend to academics or anyone who deals with this. (Not an employee or anything, just a fan.) I don't know the rules about recommending a specific title on YT so I'll just say the book title starts with 'If I knew what you were saying..." Also, great talk Bart.
Here I am. ARIAN. The Elect One from EZRA. Hidden in plain sight the truth was to all of you yet none of you are without excuse to the sin you’ve done against my Father. The unforgivable sin. The Revelation of Daniel I as eye witness fulfilled. Yet as a thief in the night. I hide like my Father commanded. The Final Hour has come. From declaration of the God of Jacob. Selah.
Although there's some doubt as to his authorship, Peter knew Jesus...I guess. I mean who knows if these people even existed? Actually, now that I think about it, the notable historian, Josephus, recorded Jesus' crucifixion and, I believe, he may have mentioned the altercation at the temple. That's really the most reliable evidence that we have, at all, of Jesus' existence. The Gospels, themselves, are problematic at best. Nevertheless, people have managed to pull a narrative together that satisfies them. I wish it was that easy for me "to believe". I feel a deep need for God in my life. And, being raised Catholic, I feel a strong inclination to believe that The Son of God is real. I'm as doubtful as anyone though...and my primary passion is for The Truth. I can't force myself to adopt such a serious a conviction just because "Grandma & Grandpa believed it". I'm paraphrasing the author of, "The Historical Figure of Jesus" (whose name escapes me), who says that "while Jesus is enormously popular today...He wasn't a particularly important person during His own lifetime." Be well.
Ironically, I found myself watching this video after the president of a baptist theological seminary and a Presbyterian minister both affirmed what Bart said. That we have no original autographs of the scriptures and the bible I have is not inerrant. Why would they tell me this? You ask. They were both making arguments against exclusive psalmolody in worship. If we have no inspired textx then we cannot sing inspired songs.
The Q&A portion of this video is outstanding. I don't think Dr. Ehrman is among the best scholarly presenters I've listened to, but he certainly handled the diverse set of questions extraordinarily well. His responses in the Q&A really demonstrated the depth of his knowledge in the subject area.
You are so enlightening. Finding the history of the Bible and how it came about I think it’s so important. I wish current day so-called christians would study why they believe instead of worrying about the new dress they are going to wear to church on Sunday. It seems they care more about what they do one day a week than why they do it. I find the history of the Bible fascinating and I’m learning a lot thanks to Bart. Thanks Bart. In case you don’t know it you and your hard work are very much appreciated. I only wish more people would hear your lectures.
Paul wrote his musings within 10 to 20 years of crucifixion and much of Mark may have been heavily influenced by his "inspiration ". Nevertheless how can one know what actually went down when there have been so many copies of copies and insertions not to mention all the actions considered miracles. Then there is condoning slavery in the good book. Just too difficult to reconcile the damnation of non knowers and non believers. Keep it easy to understand: treat others the way you want to be treated. Not sure how that works for those who do not have the basics of food shelter water and safety. With all of my doubts I still beg for wisdom, grace, and understanding.
Unsurprisingly, no Christian in this comment section is actually interesting in addressing anything Erhman is saying. Instead, they just call him wrong. That is not helping me figure out whether he is wrong.
Watch Cold Case Christianity William Warner Wallace. Alsi David Wood if you are looking for truth, or you can continue listening to what you want to believe but this guy does not have a sound basis for the bible at all, sadly for him
He really does mislead his popular audiences though - people who don’t have much context to know how his points are pretty empty. Lots of scholars have pointed this out.
@@amandadewet4022 I think this guy saying the true he studied well the bible well then any Christian David wood just talking about Islam not Christianity they bring everything out off context and explain it by their own way
Very informative. Have only been studying the translation of scripture for the past year. I'm atheist. But have a real fascination especially with mistranslation and misunderstanding of translations, more so with modern day bibles.
@@vhawk1951kl The bible is written by man. Even the king James translators stated that they were not inspired by god to translate. Maybe I should have posted agnostic..or gnostic? Just means without or with knowledge. I never said anything about there not being a god. I cannot prove otherwise. Just because I actually enjoy doing something , which is the discrepancies between the hebrew/Greek into English. Or the fact that the bible is taken out of context ALL the time. I just find it really interesting. I definitely don't have to be religious in anyways to do something I find interesting. 😊
49:00 I think it is more likely that it would be added rather than removed. But I tend to believe that usually, errors are more likely to be omissions than additions.
Am I the only person who thinks that more than one person would copy the original book of Mark from him rather than make copies of the copies? Therefore there would be more than 1 accurate copies of the original which Mark would have been alive to correct error for a while too? Let’s say the first copy is copy A. Bart is saying a copy B would be of copy A. Why can’t copy B be of the original too. Why jump to say copy B is of copy A?
Even if you are right - this doesn't change the situation. Lets assume that the first copy of Mark is A1. Then the next copy is FROM MARK'S ORIGINAL A2, and so on. Then we have a number of first hand copies from Mark, A1, A2, A3, A4... which let's assume for the sake of argument are identical (though it's extremely unlikely). These copies will be distributed among the faithful, far afield, and themselves become copied. So even if the 'first generation' of copies are exact copies of Mark, subsequent copies (B1, C1, D1..) will drift as described. At some point someone is copying a copy - not Marks' text!
It is presumptively accepted that many copies would have been made from the “original”written text. There is no presumption that mark would have proofed every (or any) of those copies. As the original texts have not been discovered and overwhelmingly likely to no longer exist, there is no verifiable way to establish that any texts are an accurate copy of the original. There is only accepted/credible means of deducing if a text is more probable to contain fewer inaccuracies and deviations from the original. Never underestimate the potential for human error to change the course of Mankind as it is, was, & will be.
Or maybe, given that it was inspired by the Almighty God, creator of the universe, it is not quite as easy to read as Dan Brown. Seems reasonable to me.
@@sphagbog Why would god make it so difficult to read, so confusing ... surely the whole point of a book is to educate , to clarify , not to confuse people
i understand that but listen to this, your flesh does not want to hear anything about God! that’s why you’re uninterested. this is what romans 3:11-18 says: “there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” “Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.” “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” so no one in their flesh understands God, no one in their flesh even seeks God, their is no fear of God in their eyes, they all tuned away and became worthless. this is true! but look at what james 4:6-10 says: “But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.” Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.” so we need to be humble, we need to realize we might be wrong. we need to realize that God might be real and that we sinned against that Holy and Perfect God. deuteronomy 4:29 says this: “But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.” well maybe you just don’t want to truly find God, and i think i understand that. but listen to this, it’s the best thing that will ever happen in your life. it might be scary, you might have to give up your pride or even your life. but Jesus said in luke 9:24: “for whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Me will save it.” you might not even understand how that could make any sense. but if you just take that leap in the light and truth you will be set free from whatever you have right now and be given something that your mind right now can’t understand. the grace of God and His love for you. john 3:16-21 says: “for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.” and romans 10:9-13 says “If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” now idk if you ever read the bible much, but i suggest that you read at least 1 of the 4 gospels matthew, mark, luke, or john. and see what’s true, humble yourself and seek God. taste and see that the Lord is good. faith comes by hearing the word of God, God loves you so much and has thoughts of peace and not of evil for you! God wants to give you a new life, and for you to walk the streets of gold in His kingdom forever.
Other members are Chairman Mao who murdered 80 to 100 million people and Stalin who murdered 20 million people And why not. Jesus gives value to people by His sacrificial act of love. The incarnate God offered His flesh, His sinless flesh, as a payment for our sins. This is while we were yet sinners. His enemies. "The heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it?. Yrs, it hss a natural enmity toward God and a strong love for self It wants to rule! Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6. Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online. 'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted. Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15. Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, PRIDE HATES IT. When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners. Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5. Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15. When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus. PS. The other apostles were already baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2. Read His preserved word, the Authorized Version later called the King James Bible.
Mark’s gospel says “Father why have you forsaken me” is Jesus quoting Psalm 22, it’s not like he could just say “this is fulfilling Psalm 22”, he had to quote it then those around him could fill in the blanks
Fascinating video, much enjoyed. I understand this is an academic exercise and the questions asked remained in that context. One of the questions seldom asked or encountered in these types of exercises is what does all this mean to people who see credibility in these types of academic presentations and their search for God. I would be interested to know what influence this type of knowledge has in the presenter’s exercise of his faith, if any. Does it weaken it, make it stronger, more challenging, or destroy its/
since it was mentioned at around 1:27:30, in Jesus' day there was no english language. there were the various celtic dialects of the people of the british islands with a small mix of latin that was imported by the conquering romans.
After 50 minutes of lecture, a dense but clear expose, still some 40 minutes of Q&A ... by default going in various directions, but still an effort. Quality!
Não tenho certeza se é o mesmo livro em que a palestra é baseada (Misquoting Jesus), mas você pode ler o livro dele "O que Jesus disse? O que Jesus não disse?" que basicamente cobre os mesmos temas e mais detalhadamente
@dom com. He neither claims to be, nor is he perceived as, a "prophet" in any way, so maybe you should beware of wrong assumptions before spouting them.
Great question at 1:08:02 that you need to hear and consider - "omission is not contradiction" - this is material to textual criticism. No two people see or describe things exactly alike. For example, consider a witness who said "I saw and heard Bob and Tom in a room having a conversation. Now consider these facts which are all true but different (1) Bob and Tom were in the room having a conversation (2) Tom was in the room (3) Bob was in the room (4) Bob was in the room having a conversation (5) Tom was in the room having a conversation (6) I saw Bob in the Room (7) I saw Tom in the room - etc - you get my point and the numerous iterations of the statement that you could make and have them all be accurate.
But its God's inspired word so there cant be mistakes God can protect his word dont it i question the preaching at my church alot of times they are contradicting trust i cant turn a blind eye
Prof. Ehrman delivers another thought-provoking and logical lecture. This phenomenon of cascading errors in translation and transcription can be axiomatized with Information Theory. Excellent and worthwhile video.
When you see this kind of lecture by great christian scholar proving that there was 1, 2, 3 or rather more cases of story development and addition of what wasn't there before.... you know what! this is what God tells us 1400 yrs ago... woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, "this is from God'',
so if they are so frequently self contradictory, why would you regard them as "inspired" in the first place. The bare fact that the "originals" of the NT texts apparently no longer exist, would be the strongest evidence that the proto-nicene church CHANGED WHAT THEY SAID even if originally they were "closer to correct" by some unseen standard.
@@Chomper750 or test your beliefs when they seem very out of sync with observable reality. since "faulty" is in the eyes only of him/her who dares to QUESTION the vast claims of miraculous integrity.
@@tracyavent-costanza346I love Jesus, i love his teachings. Religious texts are written as a narrative. Sometimes Christ says "only the evil generation will ask for signs" and sometimes cast out Demons from pigs testify to him "Son of God, you have come early to punish us.?" I believe one to be true and reject the other because it sounds stupid.
Jan Joska To a point, yes. But think of the kind of culture Isiah is writing to: a Jewish culture that stoned for impurity and unchasteness. So, it is really not an inaccurate representation to say “virgin”
A fantastic lecture. It answered a lot of questions I had. I'm glad you touched on Jesus most likely speaking Aramaic. If Jesus and his followers all spoke Aramaic, why were all the New Testament documents written in Greek? I think the point you made in the Q&A was that the NT documents may have originally been written in Aramaic and then later copied into Greek. But why were they copied into Greek? Was it for the same reason they were copied into Syriac, Coptic, etc.(to reach a wider audience)? You focused on the massive number of differences in the NT manuscripts. I think you said the vast majority of them are small and insignificant. Flipping that, what percentage of the NT manuscripts is the same? If a large percentage is the same, isn't that evidence that the New Testament documents were copied mostly accurately?
You are one of my favorites, please continue in your great work. I love your books because they are so informative and interesting. You are a truth-seeker.
@8:00 Did the copyists also believe that they were being acted upon by divine inspiration? If so, did that mean they might have also believed that mistakes they made weren't mistakes at all, but were from the divine inspiration 'modifying" or "correcting' earlier mistakes?
At about 26:35, he says that in Luke, it takes three days to realize that Jesus isn't with them. This is not consistent with either the NRSV translation or the Greek text put out by the Society for Biblical Literature (or the KJV, for that matter). In both cases, the text says that they traveled one day under the assumption that Jesus was with them before going back, and that they found him in the temple after three days of looking for him (see Luke 2:42-48). Kind of odd to see such an error in a talk whose focus is errors in the text (and what we should be reading into them).
Maybe, but it seems like more than that given that he goes out of his way to talk about how strange it is. Also given that he says other stuff that's wrong as well. He claims that the "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" bit doesn't show up until the 10th century, but it's clearly present in at least one manuscript, the Codex Bezae, which has been dated to the late 4th or early 5th century. See here: cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-NN-00002-00041/238. The "he who is without sin" bit starts at the end of the 5th line.
Quick2000 Please explain how you know what my religious beliefs are, and what I said that makes you think that I believe that the Bible is to be taken literally. Also, your "counter"-argument (which is against something that I never said) would be more compelling if you hadn't literally copied and pasted the whole thing from an episode of The West Wing.
Come on, that is a bit easy. I don't fall into your requested demographic, but telling you what would be the Historic Jesus's reply is not too hard. To double check, you could try and research Jewish doctrine of the time, and add a little bit of what we know of Jesus as the religious teacher of The Law- I have no real clue of any of the Jewish Doctrine adopted at the time. 1. Who are you to question The Law of Yahweh, blasphemer. He who can afford a Bull, where others have but a lamb or lowly dove, should remember charity as by this they shall be judged. - If that is The Law why are you questioning it. To do so in this case is usurping the position of God by saying you or your neighour have influence. I suspect you should actually take you offering to the temple and then share the meat at home and not DIY. Remember that Jesus had no problem with the current Temple religious practices, but found issue with the corruption and disrespect. 2. Value is not something I am troubled with. My people look after that. He who would conduct a transaction in the dead of night, is an idiot. - Not really his field. 3. Why do you now question your teachers? You have not appeared as a vision, existing where you were not before. The Law of your birth is The Law of your end. - This is a nonsensical question in that it is a social issue. You have grown up in a community where dealing with such issues is the norm. 4. How does your friends point of view influence that which is governed by The State? 5. This matter should immediately be presented for judgement. He who breaks the smallest of The Law, shall be the lowliest in heaven. - This is not a matter of life or death, or an emergency such as a donkey stuck in a bog. 6. See 5. - You are yet again Blaspheming and I suspect a Stoning is in your immediate future. 7. Demon! Leave this man! - This is the same as most of your other questions. After going through that, I can not see what point you are trying to make. Jesus was a Jewish Teacher. He taught the Jewish Law and taught that his followers should hold to a higher level of the Jewish Law than what the religious establishment held. He saw the priests as corrupt and not upholding fundamental doctrine.
I cannot imagine what your reaction would have been if I wasn't agreeing with you. Settle down man. I started the post telling you I was not a christian, and made an educated guess on the replies by Jesus? This is pretty interesting, and just goes to show how gullible people are. In your case, you Hate christians, yet you have now declared words I have invented and written as coming from Jesus. Life and evolution is again given to words.
He mentioned a few cases of having versions with differences between them, but it seems like if there are as many mistakes as he says would be made by making copies, we'd have many different versions of every book. How many different versions of each book of the New Testament have been found? To clarify, assume that the oldest version of the book of Mark we know about was written in 200. Assume that the second oldest was written in 250. How did those differ? If there are, say, 20 originals that we know of and 17 of them are identical, wouldn't that argue against his contention that every version would be different because every copy had mistakes?
Why does God have to inspire to have his word delivered? Why can't he or she or whatever just deliver?, just as he has purported to deliver entire 'creation'
Because you can't charge people money if their God just loved them enough to be forthright with them instead of torturing them with games. They have to tithe to their church to get that knowledge. Organized religion is a ponzi scheme.
The real message is ingrained inside of us. You find it if you cared deep enough. External message only provides with a general guidance. It's obligatory only for those who seek more, and want to better their understanding, Provided that the external message, is the real word of God, and not a compilation of contradicting stories!
@@maji9193 YA". God allowing the contradicting stories to full fill the earth as man lives in it. Yet hope is still here From 1 man who started this Book 1700 years ago and prolonged up to 40 . , and we still in Belief of it. How much longer for will it take for Man US to Fall Away? 20 100 1000 more years? So hard yet easy or confusion appears in agony suffering Christians who forsaken or feel been forsakened Agrifee .
1:17:00 ELohim means literally "sons of God EL". Jews may argue that there was one and only one god, but it's unarguable from the Semitic history, that the ancients accepted multiple gods and their children, all descended from the creator AN, EL, YAH, IL, ILU, al ILAH, ...
At about 1:23:00, he lost me. "Don't read those books", and then arguing from his own authority. (note - I haven't the book in question, but did read Dr. Ehrman's...Just like Dr. Ehrman did not read the book.)
At around 45:00 he mentions that all the 4 Gospel accounts mention different things. This is no secret, as there is a book called "Harmony of the Gospels". It is laid out just as he noted "horizontally". It shows, not that the writers are telling it differently (as in discrepancy) but rather differently in how they saw it. Each writer saw the account at different angles! Thus just showing their humanity, as, the Gospel of Matthew talks about money in more detail and greater frequency than the other gospels and the Gospel of Luke, includes greater detail about ailments and uses precise medical terminology. As Luke (a Physician) was the only one to mention Jesus was wrapped in "swaddling cloths" at his birth .Luke 2:7. Matthew (a tax collector) is the only one who tells us the precise amount of the temple tax: Matthew 17:24. No, the Gospel writers are not writing discrepancies, rather writing their own views of the same event, which are harmonic when studied, thus was made the book called; "Harmony of the Gospels". So, dont give this guy much credence, as God looks after his word (it say's such in the bible; "...for I am watching over My word to perform it.”) This is the best direct translation of Jeremiah 1:12 from Hebrew to English from The new American standard bible, NASB. We can trust that those who even gave their lives, as did Tyndale, did so for the task of bringing forth Gods word! They did this with the aid and help from Gods Holy Spirit, and can be confident that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: " 2 Timothy 3:16.
There are literally no writings about Jesus until 40 years after his supposed death....does anybody remember anything anybody said accurately after 40 years?...an entire generation
Actually, Messianic creeds about the life, miracles, death and resurrection of JESUS were circulating 2-3 years after JESUS ascended into Heaven. The Book of Galatians was written in 47 or 48 AD. The Koran wasn't written for almost 200 years after the death of Mohammed.
@@proverbalizer no, you were misleading. JESUS was crucified around 33 AD. So the first New Testament book was written 14-15 years later. As I previously mentioned, writings about JESUS were widely circulated within 2 or 3 years of HIS ascension. The evidence for JESUS is overwhelming if you are willing to examine it
@@J0HN_3_16Hadiths(life of prophet and what he said/did) were put together after 200 years yes, but 1) this statement is an oversimplification 2) Hadith is what people have said about the Prophet, which is the reason why Muslims don't take Hadiths as Quran- which Muslims claim is the book from god, that was written and complied while the prophet was alive. I'd suggest be more careful and do ur research before you say anything so confidently, that's our responsibility as human beings, thank you:)
As I have examined each gospel I notice that each gospel expounds the word or the story that is lacking in other gospel but i found no contradiction at all. Just like in Mark the name mentioned are only Magdalene and mary mother of james, but in Luke the women are Magdalene, and mary mother of james together with other women, I see no contradiction there but expounded words or story same with other verses. The reason why Christian readers find no errors or contradiction is because they read it wholly and entirely thus puzzling the missing event in other gospel and that makes them understand the whole story. You know the entire history does not solely depend on the writings of one historian. Each historians wrote historical events that are not entirely identical but they're somehow connected to each other the same with the gospel of the Apostles.
Do we believe Noah put all animals--two by two, male and female as it says in Genesis 5, or does Noah put 14 of every clean animals and two of every unclean animals? Do we believe that Jesus died on Passover as Mark, Natthew and Luke tell us, or did he die a full 24 hours BEFORE the holiday as John’s gospel asserts? Did Jesus say “No sign will be given” or did he say “a sign WILL be given?"
What about the mistranslations of the originals in Hebrew into the "original" Greek? Then the mistranslation from Greek into Latin? Then the mistranslations into 400-year-old "English"?
What is difference between Bart Ehemann and Christians? - Christian task is to build bridges to explain between so much contradictions. - Bart Ehrmamn reads the book, how it was made by the men
Allan Hegyes Bart the pedantic one here....all his knowledge is but child’s play !!! The questioners asked clever questions that Bart couldn’t answer !!!
Yes, because your religion is above reproach and no one can question the immutable and infallible word of your Lord. Yes, how petty of these questioners to even imply the most minor of inconsistencies in your perfect scriptures.
47:00 each gospel was written from a different perspective so yeah they’re gonna say different things. Hence why Mark doesn’t include the fact Peter and John ran to tomb to see that Jesus wasn’t there, I believe Mark interviewed Mary Magdalene to get her side of the story
Jesus is In all of the scriptures John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus's birth Micah 5 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 2:5 (KJV) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, Jesus's suffering Psalm 22 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns Jesus arriving In Jerusalem Zechariah 9:9 (KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Matthew 21:5 (KJV) 21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. John 12:14-15 (KJV) 12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Psalm 22 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns ************************ Psalm 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Psalm 34:20 (KJV) He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. John 19:36 (KJV) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Judas: Psalm 41:9 (KJV) Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me. Psalm 55 12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: 13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. 14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company Zec 11 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD Matthew 26: 14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him Crucifixion Psalm 22:18 (KJV) They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. Luke 23:34 (KJV) Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalm 22:1 (KJV) [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? Mark 15:34 (KJV) And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 26:54 (KJV) But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? Matthew 26:56 (KJV) But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. Mark 14:49 (KJV) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:32 (KJV) And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? Luke 24:45 (KJV) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words Acts 2 29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ Acts 18:28 (KJV) For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 1:2 (KJV) (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Romans 16:26 (KJV) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Matthew 2:23 (KJV) And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 11:13 (KJV) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
@@joandark2 the vast majority yes. But the minor differences between. "Jesus wept" and " Jesus cried" could lead to totally different interpretation of the scripture. because the words are synonyms but are not identical. Cried could give the impression of anger or sadness; tears or yelling. While wept implies a deep sadness or morning with tears. The idea that these tiny seemingly insignificant changes happened repeatedly generation after generation for hundreds of years is the problem. Not only that but the bible was clearly altered over time. The last verses of Revelation are proof of that. Why discourage someone from doing something that has never happened before. And why wouldn't the little punctuation mistakes matter if it says it's self not to change a single jot or tittle.
@@chrisb.7787 bart and many miss the entire point of the scriptures. The interpretation is about Jesus and nothing changes that. John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus's birth Micah 5 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 2:5 (KJV) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, Jesus's suffering Psalm 22 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns Jesus arriving In Jerusalem Zechariah 9:9 (KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Matthew 21:5 (KJV) 21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. John 12:14-15 (KJV) 12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Psalm 22 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns ************************ Psalm 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Psalm 34:20 (KJV) He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. John 19:36 (KJV) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Judas: Psalm 41:9 (KJV) Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me. Psalm 55 12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: 13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. 14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company Zec 11 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD Matthew 26: 14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him Crucifixion Psalm 22:18 (KJV) They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. Luke 23:34 (KJV) Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalm 22:1 (KJV) [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? Mark 15:34 (KJV) And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 26:54 (KJV) But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? Matthew 26:56 (KJV) But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. Mark 14:49 (KJV) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:32 (KJV) And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? Luke 24:45 (KJV) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words Acts 2 29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ Acts 18:28 (KJV) For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 1:2 (KJV) (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Romans 16:26 (KJV) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Matthew 2:23 (KJV) And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 11:13 (KJV) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. Mark 1:2 (KJV) As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. Luke 1:70 (KJV) As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: Luke 10:24 (KJV) For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them]. Luke 16:31 (KJV) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 18:31 (KJV) Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. Luke 24:25 (KJV) Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Luke 24:44 (KJV) And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me. John 1:45 (KJV) Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
@ 1:05:42, what version of the Bible is he quoting, in 1 John 5:8? I've got "the Spirit, water, and blood," but he's got "the Father, Word, and the Holy Spirit." Does he have a copy of a different manuscript that most Bible translators don't? Does anyone know?
Bert Ehrmam believes that the gospels teach that Jesus is God and that Jesus was crucified.. What do Muslims cherry-pick information more from? Ehrman or the Bible?
Nope. Christians got used to the idea of secular Bible scholarship a long time ago, although it didn't really take off until the 1980's with the founding of the Jesus Seminar. Muslims still haven't gotten used to the idea of secular Koran scholarship and feel very threatened by it. So those few who are engaged in that quest have to proceed very cautiously.
Yes Bill Warner has done extensive research on Islam and such on Koran.If you think that Islam is Judaism or Christianity like religion you are very much wrong since the main character of Islam is Mohammed and not Allah.Koran is Less then 5th of whole religious scriptures which Mohammed view of Allah( he is the only way to Allah ) and rest the main body is Hadith and Sira that are sayings and traditions of Mohammed. When the Koran and Hadith are in conflict which happens often like for example how many time one should pray to Allah in Koran Mohammed say 3 times but in Hadith 5 times and so a Muslim would pray 5 times. In general in Islam sin is when one denies Mohammed being a prophet and not observing the rules that he has established even do none of the scriptures are actually believed to be written by Mohammed as it is believed to be illiterate and such could not comprehend never the less killing, rapping, paedophilia, enslaving,lying...if it is done to a none Muslim meaning follower of Mohammed it is not considered a sin in Islam and such it doesn't have a universal understanding of Sin but rather a double standards where one is permitted to one thing to a Muslim and completely different to a none Muslim
01:05 the johannine comma is so essential for the doctrine of the trinity, that the latest edition of the catholic bible (the nova vulgata and the latest CEI italian editions for example) omit it!
The god of Israel said, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Leviticus 19:18). Why ? Is it good to love your neighbour or is it just something he made up for no particular reason ? It must be something he made up (created), otherwise he is not the maker (creator) of all things. Therefore loving your neighbour as yourself is not actually good, so you don't need to wash him.
", "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Leviticus 19:18). Why ?" The passage means to treat others with the same standard of care that we all expect of our neighbors. Don't be unfair or negative towards others prejudging. ie don't be a dick. Problem with that?
35:20 where he's saying John 8:7 is definitely a later addition is a bit misleading. Seems like there are many records of early Christians mentioning this passage, as well as one Greek Church Father, the 4th century Didymus the Blind - Ehrman says no Greek commentator mentions it until the 10th century - while Augustine wrote about it: "Certain persons of little faith, or rather enemies of the true faith, fearing, I suppose, lest their wives should be given impunity in sinning, removed from their manuscripts the Lord's act of forgiveness toward the adulteress, as if he who had said, Sin no more, had granted permission to sin." At the very least, it seems far from as clear cut as Ehrman presents - and he must know this - and makes me wonder if I can really trust anything he says.
Who iş augustine and can he be trusted and reliable?Its about reliable sourced not blind faith. Reliablity leaving to truth no on hyoe and popular bandwagon beliefe.bandwagon fallacy does not mean truth. The bible has it problem and division in Christianity and differneves very early on
2 Timothy 3:16, all scripture is given by inspiration, and is profitable for correction ect, also 1 Corinthians 12. The answerers are in there. Personally, I do not think that God would want to write it on the table of my heart if it is a big fat lie as this false prophet says.
Be careful when reading the scripture is not wrong. Mark 1:2-3 is a mixture of Malachi 3, Exodus 23:20, and Isaiah 40:3 Malachi 3:1 New International Version 3 “I will send my messenger,(A) who will prepare the way before me. Isaiah 40:3 New International Version 3 A voice of one calling: “In the wilderness prepare the way for the Lord[a]; Exodus 23:20 New American Bible (Revised Edition) 20 See, I am sending an angel(A) before you, to guard you on the way and bring you to the place I have prepared.
Thank you sir for your time and work, you have answered countless questions for me over the years and I truly appreciate it, best wishes from Tennessee
Speaking of mistakes, 25:35 the "I send My messenger" quote in Mark is from Malachi, not Exodus as claimed. The fact that the main part of Mark's quotation "prepare the way" etc. DOES come from Isaiah doesn't get mentioned.
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. Quran 2 : 79
i enjoyed this talk and Q&A, Dr. Ehrman. Have you looked at any of the New Testament manuscripts that have been found in Hebrew or Aramaic? Nehemiah Gordan has many videos, and I suppose books, about his findings.
always search for the truth no matter where that takes you
+David Burns Sounds trite, but it's one of the most important lessons mom and dad taught me, so many decades ago.
+Ibrahim kd Did you read Sura 19 verse 33? Here you see clearly, that the Quran is lying, because Muslims claim, that Jesus never died and also said, that Jesus did never sin, so He did not lie.
So Islam denies the everlasting life?
Well, we as Christians know, that not everyone has to die and that there is an everlasting life and the resurrection.
Tell me the reason, why Jesus would have to die, when HE never sinned?
What sense would life make in the end, when there is no everlasting life?
What would Jesus be judged for? According to the Quran, Jesus was never touched by the devil, so HE never sinned. What right would God have to judge him and what for. That doesn't make sense to me at all.
Genealogy of JOSEPH! Why not the genealogy of Mary? - I thought Joseph had nothing to do with it!
Because Joseph would have been the king if the Israelites had been a free people since the days of David. His son, whether natural or adopted would the also have become the rightful king.
@@sophiamcl and somehow decedent of Adam.
Genealogy comes from the father not the mother. If a jewish woman merried a none jew man the child will be a jew with out a tribe. Adoption does not apply. Since Joseph is not the father of j.c., he does not belong to no tribe of juda where the messiah is to come from the line of king David and his son king Salomon. Unless, the Holy Spirite is from the tribe of juda? And it it's o.k. for Mary to commit adultery breaking one commandment with a spirit....
That by the way the guardians that laid with the daughters of man before the flood are in prison awaiting judgment for there transgression.
@ichangedmyname right,but they split off at Nathan, Solomons younger brother; Mary was sired through Nathan, Joseph through Solomon.
@@sophiamcl -- actually no, Joseph was not in line to be king at all. Matthew says Jacob was the father of Joseph, while Luke tells us Heli was the father of Joseph. The bloodlines are complete fiction, what makes you think any of it is true?
This man blew my world! I don't know if that's good or bad. God gave us a mind. Yet the majority of pastors act offended when you question them. Bart cause's me to think and ask the hard questions. He is truly a brilliant man.
Ralph Waldo Emerson might be of interest.
No two different persons can be exactly the same because the creator made them beautifully, wonderfully
and fearfully the same ; every person is unique.
Jesus is the only perfect man to follow.
@@MCsquar3Fearfully? What was that for?
@@MCsquar3but he wasn't perfect. Dude lost his temper all the time and made a bunch of false prophecies.
@@MCsquar3what Jesus are you talking about? The entire lecture is pointing out that these are all made up fanfiction stories.
Dont believe
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
Pali canon?
do not believe comments in you tube then, eh?
@@theHentySkepticYuuuuup. That's the point, eh? TH-cam, Online, Schoolbook, Religious Book, Pastor, intellectual..... use your intellect, reason, logic discernment and your own experience with the words of advice... with any and everything you hear, read- no matter the source. Obviously TH-cam would be included. "But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Good advice, then don't believe that Buddha guy.
All mans wisdom is foolishness.
The following is brilliant.
When Erhman asked his students how many of them believed the Bible is the inspired word of God, the entire class put up their hands. When Erhman asked them how many of them had read the Bible from cover to cover, only a few hands went up. Ehrman commented, “You’d think that if people believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, they would want to know what God had to say.”
It's a very important point. I wonder how many people know the whole Bible completely by heart. I bet the answer is none. If you ask this question about the Qur'an, you'll find many know it completely by heart. In it God says: 'And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?' 54:17
Reading all the books that make up the bible is one sure fired way to end up being an atheist... probably the main reason that the church outlawed anyone having a bible other than ordained priests.
I think any intelligent person who reads any part of the Bible quickly understands the book was not directed by a spiritually evolved creative source.
@@_truthful_q_ which version?
It just confirms that no thought or reflection goes into fundamentalist dogma. I'm a Taoist, but that realization only came to me after having read as much Taoist writing as I could find, many times, and after much reflection and meditation (AKA prayer). It took years. The students referred to here evidently signed on with fundamental Christianity because someone above them in the social hierarchy imparted to them the understanding that it was a good idea. It's unfortunate. What results is a social support network built around aggressive political activism, without understanding, and without any path to Grace. I believe that accounts for the fact that fundamentalists appear to "believe" so many things that contradict the teachings of Jesus (who, BTW, was an ideal Taoist in fact, if not in name).
I really respect this man. He doesn’t force his beliefs or criticize. He just give the information and leave it up to the listener. I as s believer love listening to him
@Nasir Aameen Wait, as a “believer” you love listening to a guy who is a non believer, that denies and blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ name and slanders the truth about the deity of Christ?🤦🏾♂️ you are definitely a Luke Warm Christian.
Revelation 3:15-17 (KJV)
“”15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:””
A true Believer should never “love” listening to someone blaspheme Gods name.
@Jon Doe , you are just jealous that he knows more about the bible than you ever will.
well he's a scholar and doesn't believe what he has studied. Seems he can't come to grips with natural laws that God created. Yin/yang, good/bad, happiness/sadness. He thinks God can only exist if the world were ice cream cones and puppy tails.
To be a believer, you must be born again, new creature, called Regeneration.
Webster 1828 Dictionary formerly named, Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary
Regeneration: Reproduction, the act of making new. In Theology; new birth by the grace of God.; that change by which the natural enmity of man toward God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are IMPLANTED in the heart.
He saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3.
@@AtreyuKhalilevery quote you use is incorrect and has no relation to any original text. You can't blaspheme something that wasn't correct to begin with.
I think I listened to this before but it was fascinating and you make it very understandable. Thank u and whoever put it on TH-cam.
if the women ran in fear from the cave and didn't tell anyone how did it get in the book, ?
That's what I was thinking😅
It was added in later. 😂🤣
Women can't keep a secret.
Craig G what a contribution. At least explain yourself
@J H Yes there are hundreds of discrepancies
Even simple mistakes in punctuation can change the meaning of a phrase or sentence completely! This is true even in modern languages which are usually less precise than ancient languages. Some concepts and words have no direct translation at all in other languages and must be paraphrased. Different scribes would have done this differently and could change the meaning completely.
Before I discovered the world of former believers turn atheist/agnostic I really thought I was on an island. Listening to people like him make me feel a sense of validation that I never knew I would need on this path of life. I tried to describe to my friend that the eras I saw in the Bible became to great for me to continue to believe in god. She told me she just ignored the parts of the Bible I was talking about because at the end of the day “man could have messed up some things because after all we are human and only god is perfect”. I responded, “How would the god that created the universe, the massive amazing universe not make sure his precious word was preserved for all time. We are suppose to base salvation on what it teaches. You can’t convince me that a god that can create the marvels of the world and a galaxy that is so massive that even traveling at the speed of light we couldn’t cross it in our lifetime. It would take 200,000 years and that’s just our galaxy. So a god who can create these things would make sure that no errors would distort his word”. I was one of those Christian that bought into the belief that Jesus was the bread of life and I needed to know his word and hide it in my heart. So to be spiritually fed and transform I would renew my mind by sitting at the feet of Jesus and seeking his truth through the word. But to my complete and utter anguish it caused legit turmoil. From that I fasted and interceded because I thought I must be under demonic attack. I must have a spirit devotion, of Jezebel, or a spirit of Leviathan. I went to leaders and humbly shared the despair and doubt that reading the Bible was causing me. But to no avail I couldn’t get free from this dark cloud. I would blare worship music to drown out the thoughts of doubt. I was quite literally trying to get myself to STOP THINKING. Moral of the story is decided to start thinking and allowed myself to accept I am not a believer. I am finally free. Without a doubt free from oppression! It kind of makes me giggle thinking that back in the day if I had talk to myself I would have felt bad for me and thought, “man she is deceived”.
You know Bart isnt an atheist because of written, error, right?
I have asked myself the same questions too. I found that if you sort out answers from thd bible on foundational questions like what to do to be saved the answers do not always correspond from writer to writer. I felt just like you that at least those things should be clear, if eternal fate of persons depend on it. I find that there really is no way of establishing clarity. I believe that all religions are man made, based on culture of the founders. They offer wisdom, but sometimes in error. In the end we all use the filter of our conscience and personal experience to decide right from wrong and how to walk this path called life. I still believe that there is a God, and that better than in any book, God is revealed through his ever evolving creation.
@@Matira269 Yes, and one can't really BEGIN any of that without some agreement and proper, useful DETAIL on why any soul was put into jeopardy to begin with, however?
I left Christianity for similar reason/mindset.
You’d expect omniscient and omnipotent God to preserve his word better etc. And since i was a fundamentalist Christian who believed in inerrancy of the bible, when i really came across the real contradictions and errors, that put me into denial and a shock. It took me 3 years to fully deconvert.
Ultimately, What brought me out of Christianity was lack of evidence and just flat out wrong history and contradictions etc.
But it on the other hand, biblical world view seriously conflicted with my philosophy. Such as just, loving and omnipotent god
throwing people into hell for unbelief.
Why can’t God punish people for finite amount of time since their sins were finite?
I remember Some pastor defending eternal hell by saying “you committed sin against an eternal God and so just punishment is eternal one”.
Yeah, no. Screw that. Why would you judge the sinner’s sentence based on god’s eternalness?
You created us this way and we were brought into this existence not even by our own choice and you want to send us to eternal torment?
And what if you were born into Islamic family? Into Hinduism? Your location of birth is most likely going to your eternal fate? What about children who die at like 15? They goto hell?
Get the f... out.
Christians will do these mental gymnastics to defend god.
Nah. I dont buy it.
@@BearFruit90 you love mankind more than its Creator. Got Free will. Your privilege. Just check and see if you can love EVERY ONE in mankind without leaving anybody out.
Jesus had amazing stamina to say what he said on the cross. Also an amazing stenographer had to be there and hear it all.
Ronald Boyd
Good one....hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
It takes even more “stamina” come to life after you’ve been killed. You stand 2000 years later in a culture that is so alien to that of the Roman empire and act as if people didn’t know how to use their ears and transcribe the words and actions of events surrounding them. We have exhaustive records of various battles that took place all over the Roman empire and you don’t think someone could have potentially written down what they were observing in a public crucifixion? We think we are the pinnacle of intellect sitting in the 21st-century, yet our ancestors created miraculous and complex systems and structures that still amaze us today. Maybe gain a tiny bit of perspective before saying no one could have done something when you probably have done little to no research on the subject and don’t seem to have an appreciation for the capabilities of the ancient people of our planet.
@@scotthannan8669 Sure, someone could have, assuming they were part of the small number of people who could write. But if they did, we haven't found any trace of those writings, not even rumors. So ... maybe get a bit of perspective yourself?
With collapsing lungs I don't think he could say much.
No. The roman soldiers were all wearing body cams.
I have learned more about the Bible as an atheist than I ever did as a Christian!😊 thanks Bart!!
Ha Ha! Same here. Thank god I bailed out over 50 years ago and didn't waste my life believing in the myths and fairy tales.
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Correction, you can thank youself for that, not god :D @@helengraham7472
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@@helengraham7472
The great white throne is not here yet. You take salvation so lightly. Jesus did not.
Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6.
Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online.
'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme
love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted.
Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15.
Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, pride hates it!
When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners.
Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5.
Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15.
When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.
PS. Other apostles were baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
I'm in awe of this man's ability to reference facts, verses, other people's work AND the vast amount of historical data needed to speak with authority. I have trouble remembering who I met last week!
I mean, if it was your passion and livelihood to remember the names of the people you met last week, and you set aside time to prepare to give a presentation on the names of people you've met, I bet you'd fare much better. And I bet you have some kind of passion that you know a lot about, without having to look things up!
To be fair, he does this for a living. That's an important thing to keep in mind. If I practiced anything for 10,000 hours, I would be expert too.
I guess that he likes this stuff and finds it fascinating, when you enjoy what you're doing it's not a difficulty.
@ maybe we aren't the dominant species...Global Warming seems to lean toward bacteria surviving long after we're gone.
@@abbreviatedalex2418 repetition is the key memory
I have only been a Christian for a year, but during this time, I happened to come across the Japanese translation of your book, Misquoting Jesus, at a library. I read it with great interest and subsequently delved into the original English version. As expected, there are subtle "distortions" in the translation from English to Japanese. Nevertheless, as a Japanese reader, I found the translation both engaging and impressive.
Considering this, even today, I can understand how early copyists, without access to modern conveniences like photocopiers or PDFs and instead relying on the laborious process of manual transcription, might have been tempted to alter texts based on their own interpretations-much like the scribes of the 4th-century Vatican Manuscript mentioned in your book.
My question is about the witnesses, like in the birth of Jesus, the baptism of Jesus, the temptation of Jesus, and the trial of Jesus. In all of these occasions, which appear in all four gospels though different, my question is how do the authors, qualify the statements of the four when the four weren't there to witness any of these events. Nobody would have went into Pilate's place where Jesus' trials were taking place, as with the other things mentioned. Sorry, bad punctuation, I'm no scholar.
You might like the book, "The Trial of Jesus of Nazareth" by S. G. F. Brandon. It sheds light on the part of your comment that refers to Pilate.
Luk 1:1-4
(1) Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
(2) Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
(3) It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
(4) That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
You can't see the answer to your question in his beginning of the speech?? God inspired His Word. It's either true, or not.
AmandaBrecc the gospel of John’s author (John), declares, “35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.” John 19:35
Super important!
The author of Revelation makes a similar declaration so I believe those two books and build my foundation of doctrine from those two books.
Those are the only two books I consider scripture in the NT
Greetings from Brazil! The day after I returned from my summer vacation at the beach, seven years ago, I decided to study Catholic Theology,
Koine Greek and the Coptic language. Under the umbrella and in the apartment I had read in those 15 days "Misquoting Jesus" and Elaine Pagels' "The Gnostic Gospels" (both in Portuguese). Twice each. The experience has been addictive. Thank you, Dr. Bart.
Why stop there. Why not read the word of God?
The incomparable worf of God.
Not all bibles are inspired! So I speak only of the one that is:
In Psalm 12:6-7 God said He preserved His word. The others do not.
The Authorized Version, later called the King James Bible, shows God truly wants to know you as His! The Bible was written by over 40 writers of various backgrounds over a span of about 1500 years, written in the continents of Asia, Africa and Europe in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, [the Masoretic text].
The New Testament [Antioch,Textus Receptus] was written in Greek. They fit perfectly together to unfold the drama of redemption!!!
There are approximently 24,000 ancient copies of portions of the new testament. These are supported by writings of the church theologians in the first four centuries. There is also external evidence: Tacitus, a Roman historian, and Josephus, a Jewish historian. Both support bible accounts.
This book is not about stories, which are now viewed as fictional, but are true life events.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PERFECTLY FULFILLED PROPHECIES. Fulfilled by Jesus.
HISTORICAL ACCURACY. Many, many about Israel. Some being fulfilled even in our time. Also, Prophecy of Cyrus and prophecy of the city of Tyrus.
Also: 101 SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE.
God wrote about science thousands of years before man did. He tells us ahead of time so that we will know that He is God.
I would suggest that you read some books that counter professor Bart's thesis to see if his claims hold up under rigorous scholarly scrutiny. That's what is missing in this video. No one to give a counter argument.
@@tonysienzant6717 this is taught in every NT studies class on earth. Even the evangelical ones know this stuff… they just excuse it… you preacher ( if they went to theological school ) knows this too… they just don’t tell you about it. 😉
@@judyswiderski2682 I read the Bible frequently, as well as the footnote references and Catholic and Protestant commentaries. Analytics too.
@@cesarcaldas8272
Which bible?
Where did he go during the unaccounted 18 years? The big brother house?
He was backpacking through Europe
The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps. Proverbs 14:15
If you a Christian then you have nothing to prove
@SuperDukka On your sins list you forgot the big one original sin that has been passed down.
@SuperDukka
You have some really bad misunderstandings.
I would advise you to think objectively about all those points.. If you can refute them yourself, they aren't valid points..
Keep in mind that a carnal person is always going to have difficulty understanding words inspired by Spirit-filled men.
@SuperDukka
If you want me to refute any 3 points, pick your top 3 and I will explain them.. Not going to post refutations of 12 points while I'm on mobile.
Daniel, your Bible got rekt like the trash it is, why even bother trying to defend it?
Mistranslated words can have big impact. Young maiden was translated to virgin. Big impact. Reed sea was translated to red sea, another major mistake. To them it was small mistake, since those texts were written for that populace of that time and place
This was the best explanation of textual criticism works since my school years as a classical philologist!
An intentional error might be called a "professional foul".
Professional foul indeed!
Marie Estile ooo
Jayarava Attwood the christian authors added stuff until 325ce when they had a vote!
Bart is genuinely funny, I love it when he has an audience like this who can appreciate his humour.
He got the audience to laugh because there are thousands of variations, as if that meant the Gospels were completely unreliable, then told them actually most of them didn't matter becaus they didn't alter the meaning. So it turned out it wasn't funny after all.
@@Alpine1996 ohh, that was VERY funny
His yuk yuk laugh sounds juvenile to me.
God has the last laugh. I know you have contempt for God's word, that is a normal attitude of the natural heart. Jeremiah 17:9. "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it,?"
When God stops inviting you to walk with Him, then the door of mercy is closed.
"But thou, O LORD, shall laugh at them, thou shall have all the beathen in derision." Psalm 59:8.
He is a compassionate God. Simply ask Him if He is true. If you wan tg Him to reveal Himself to you, He will.
@@judyswiderski2682 The bible is not a self proving document anymore than anyother religous text. So.....
Prove the supernatural events claimed in the pages are real using facts and evidence but b/s.
Be the very first Christian to do that
I’ve challenged a few people on this now and they had absolutely no idea there were any discrepancies at all. They didn’t even believe me when I told them.
Well they aren't exactly going to advertise to their cult members about it are they 😂
Are you referring to the different accounts in the bible? What do you find that is so stupid? Any examples?
@NotTheMaestro They didn't believe you? Why should that bother you if what you want is to make them not believe something? Oh, I get it-they should not believe only what YOU want don't want them to believe, LOL! That's called "manipulation".
@@priyanka5316 are you ok bro? Not wanting to believe n actual fact because it will destroy your world view is called being brainwashed
That's because they are indoctrinated. Its hard to reach people like that because they more than likely were taught that as kids and grew up around people they were close to who had the same views.
Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" began my long journey into deconstruction. Thank God!
Did you lose your faith while deconstructing it?
@@TheHonestPeanut , no. Deconstruction peeled away all the false teaching I had been raised to believe. I fell in love all over again with God.
@@cheryellemley-mcroy6758 interesting. Thanks for the reply 👍
@@cheryellemley-mcroy6758how do you know your deconstruction was authentic
That's stupid
Dr. Ehrman makes the boring religious stuff fun to learn. thank you.
but not accurate
@@joandark2cope and seethe
Majority of people have not read the Bible, even “Christians.” They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear.
And they miss the point of the entire scriptures which is to proclaim Jesus
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
How do you know this verse is related to Jesus?
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Jesus was not the only one in history to ever get crucified and pierced. This method of execution was popular back in their days. And Jesus was not the first one to ever get executed. Anyone who would get executed can explain the situation with this same verse. Why this verse fits Jesus only?!
@@sinan_islam
The bible and Jesus tells us so
Luke 1:70 (KJV)
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luke 10:24 (KJV)
For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them].
Luke 16:31 (KJV)
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Luke 18:31 (KJV)
Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
Luke 24:25 (KJV)
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luke 24:44 (KJV)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.
John 1:45 (KJV)
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
Acts 3:18 (KJV)
But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Acts 3:21 (KJV)
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Acts 3:24 (KJV)
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Acts 13:27 (KJV)
For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled [them] in condemning [him].
Acts 26:22 (KJV)
Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 3:21 (KJV)
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ephesians 2:20 (KJV)
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
Hebrews 1:1 (KJV)
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
1 Peter 1:10 (KJV)
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you:
That's okay as far as it goes, it's just what we do with the news and most everything else.
But the questions should be answered to your own satisifaction by honest study of what Jesus has done and why, by reading the Bible.
WRT "...They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear..."
yeah, the MAGA heads enthusiastic about donald trump, seem to be of a similar mentality. I guess a tweaked version of reality makes them feel better about how little they have accomplished in their lives or something.
Not that Trump would especially value anything they do, other than help to inflate his own ego.
Very informative. Now I feel much more knowledgable and confident in my misquoting of Jesus.
The real question is, would the Bible be actually less questionable or more questionable if all the texts had all the facts exactly the same, given what we know about eyewitness accounts, memory, pov, etc?
Just caught this what, 10 years too late? Fascinating talk. Great Q&A as well. You're making me curious about history, in general, and that's a win for you. I'll look for your lecture circuit next, if you have one.
10 years too late huh?
At 1:14:00 he says "The reality is that most academics don't know how to talk to a normal human being." So true. For years Alan Alda has been involved in various efforts to enable people with poor communication skills to find ways to make themselves understood by people who don't share their expertise or experience. Alda wrote a very good book about it that I recommend to academics or anyone who deals with this. (Not an employee or anything, just a fan.) I don't know the rules about recommending a specific title on YT so I'll just say the book title starts with 'If I knew what you were saying..." Also, great talk Bart.
If I understood you, would I have this look?
How can one '' misquote '' jesus when he left not a written word and everything '' jesus said '' comes from people who never knew him ?
They have ears to listen.
But Bart says the writers of the various text in the Bible did know Jesus, or people who knew him.
Here I am. ARIAN.
The Elect One from EZRA.
Hidden in plain sight the truth was to all of you yet none of you are without excuse to the sin you’ve done against my Father. The unforgivable sin. The Revelation of Daniel I as eye witness fulfilled. Yet as a thief in the night. I hide like my Father commanded. The Final Hour has come. From declaration of the God of Jacob. Selah.
@@mastergamer591 Your pardon? What makes you, specifically, an Elect?
Although there's some doubt as to his authorship, Peter knew Jesus...I guess. I mean who knows if these people even existed?
Actually, now that I think about it, the notable historian, Josephus, recorded Jesus' crucifixion and, I believe, he may have mentioned the altercation at the temple. That's really the most reliable evidence that we have, at all, of Jesus' existence. The Gospels, themselves, are problematic at best. Nevertheless, people have managed to pull a narrative together that satisfies them.
I wish it was that easy for me "to believe". I feel a deep need for God in my life. And, being raised Catholic, I feel a strong inclination to believe that The Son of God is real. I'm as doubtful as anyone though...and my primary passion is for The Truth. I can't force myself to adopt such a serious a conviction just because "Grandma & Grandpa believed it".
I'm paraphrasing the author of, "The Historical Figure of Jesus" (whose name escapes me), who says that "while Jesus is enormously popular today...He wasn't a particularly important person during His own lifetime."
Be well.
Ironically, I found myself watching this video after the president of a baptist theological seminary and a Presbyterian minister both affirmed what Bart said. That we have no original autographs of the scriptures and the bible I have is not inerrant. Why would they tell me this? You ask. They were both making arguments against exclusive psalmolody in worship. If we have no inspired textx then we cannot sing inspired songs.
The Q&A portion of this video is outstanding. I don't think Dr. Ehrman is among the best scholarly presenters I've listened to, but he certainly handled the diverse set of questions extraordinarily well. His responses in the Q&A really demonstrated the depth of his knowledge in the subject area.
You are so enlightening. Finding the history of the Bible and how it came about I think it’s so important. I wish current day so-called christians would study why they believe instead of worrying about the new dress they are going to wear to church on Sunday. It seems they care more about what they do one day a week than why they do it. I find the history of the Bible fascinating and I’m learning a lot thanks to Bart.
Thanks Bart. In case you don’t know it you and your hard work are very much appreciated. I only wish more people would hear your lectures.
and that's just the men worrying about their dresses!
How can Jesus be quoted when the gospels were written 75 years after he died?
Paul wrote his musings within 10 to 20 years of crucifixion and much of Mark may have been heavily influenced by his "inspiration ". Nevertheless how can one know what actually went down when there have been so many copies of copies and insertions not to mention all the actions considered miracles. Then there is condoning slavery in the good book.
Just too difficult to reconcile the damnation of non knowers and non believers. Keep it easy to understand: treat others the way you want to be treated.
Not sure how that works for those who do not have the basics of food shelter water and safety.
With all of my doubts I still beg for wisdom, grace, and understanding.
Unsurprisingly, no Christian in this comment section is actually interesting in addressing anything Erhman is saying. Instead, they just call him wrong. That is not helping me figure out whether he is wrong.
I have just done half of this talk by Ehrman. he's rotten!
maybe not, but it does tell you a lot about the implicit integrity of the christo-facists in the countries where bart's ideas get media exposure.
Bingo
Nonsense
I’m a Muslim. But I really like Bart. It seems he makes logical comments about certain things about which I would like to know.
Watch Cold Case Christianity William Warner Wallace. Alsi David Wood if you are looking for truth, or you can continue listening to what you want to believe but this guy does not have a sound basis for the bible at all, sadly for him
Can you prove allah is the one true living God?
Who forgive sins in Islam?
He really does mislead his popular audiences though - people who don’t have much context to know how his points are pretty empty. Lots of scholars have pointed this out.
@@amandadewet4022 really trinity is false doctrine
@@amandadewet4022 I think this guy saying the true he studied well the bible well then any Christian David wood just talking about Islam not Christianity they bring everything out off context and explain it by their own way
1:25:35 btw. What happened to the gifts (including gold) that the holy 3 wise men gave to Jesus as he was born?
Round trip holiday from Bethlehem to Eygpt and back to Gallilee.
Very informative. Have only been studying the translation of scripture for the past year. I'm atheist. But have a real fascination especially with mistranslation and misunderstanding of translations, more so with modern day bibles.
Hmmm, atheist eh? One that says no god. What exactly do you declare not to be?-How do you understand the word god?
@@vhawk1951kl The bible is written by man. Even the king James translators stated that they were not inspired by god to translate. Maybe I should have posted agnostic..or gnostic? Just means without or with knowledge.
I never said anything about there not being a god. I cannot prove otherwise.
Just because I actually enjoy doing something , which is the discrepancies between the hebrew/Greek into English. Or the fact that the bible is taken out of context ALL the time. I just find it really interesting. I definitely don't have to be religious in anyways to do something I find interesting. 😊
I definitely understand the word of man. Who wrote it.
49:00 I think it is more likely that it would be added rather than removed. But I tend to believe that usually, errors are more likely to be omissions than additions.
Am I the only person who thinks that more than one person would copy the original book of Mark from him rather than make copies of the copies?
Therefore there would be more than 1 accurate copies of the original which Mark would have been alive to correct error for a while too?
Let’s say the first copy is copy A. Bart is saying a copy B would be of copy A. Why can’t copy B be of the original too. Why jump to say copy B is of copy A?
*_AMEN! Alas, I encountered a reasonable comment!_*
Even if you are right - this doesn't change the situation. Lets assume that the first copy of Mark is A1. Then the next copy is FROM MARK'S ORIGINAL A2, and so on. Then we have a number of first hand copies from Mark, A1, A2, A3, A4... which let's assume for the sake of argument are identical (though it's extremely unlikely). These copies will be distributed among the faithful, far afield, and themselves become copied. So even if the 'first generation' of copies are exact copies of Mark, subsequent copies (B1, C1, D1..) will drift as described. At some point someone is copying a copy - not Marks' text!
Irrelevant. We have no confirmed originals to compare to. Regardless of how many originals were scribed.
It is presumptively accepted that many copies would have been made from the “original”written text.
There is no presumption that mark would have proofed every (or any) of those copies.
As the original texts have not been discovered and overwhelmingly likely to no longer exist, there is no verifiable way to establish that any texts are an accurate copy of the original.
There is only accepted/credible means of deducing if a text is more probable to contain fewer inaccuracies and deviations from the original.
Never underestimate the potential for human error to change the course of Mankind as it is, was, & will be.
"If God inspired a book, you'd think you'd want to read it". My thoughts exactly.
Or maybe, given that it was inspired by the Almighty God, creator of the universe, it is not quite as easy to read as Dan Brown. Seems reasonable to me.
@@sphagbog
Why would god make it so difficult to read, so confusing ... surely the whole point of a book is to educate , to clarify , not to confuse people
i understand that but listen to this, your flesh does not want to hear anything about God! that’s why you’re uninterested. this is what romans 3:11-18 says:
“there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways,
and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
so no one in their flesh understands God, no one in their flesh even seeks God, their is no fear of God in their eyes, they all tuned away and became worthless. this is true! but look at what james 4:6-10 says:
“But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.”
so we need to be humble, we need to realize we might be wrong. we need to realize that God might be real and that we sinned against that Holy and Perfect God. deuteronomy 4:29 says this:
“But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.”
well maybe you just don’t want to truly find God, and i think i understand that. but listen to this, it’s the best thing that will ever happen in your life. it might be scary, you might have to give up your pride or even your life. but Jesus said in luke 9:24: “for whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Me will save it.” you might not even understand how that could make any sense. but if you just take that leap in the light and truth you will be set free from whatever you have right now and be given something that your mind right now can’t understand. the grace of God and His love for you. john 3:16-21 says:
“for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.”
and romans 10:9-13 says
“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
now idk if you ever read the bible much, but i suggest that you read at least 1 of the 4 gospels matthew, mark, luke, or john. and see what’s true, humble yourself and seek God. taste and see that the Lord is good. faith comes by hearing the word of God, God loves you so much and has thoughts of peace and not of evil for you! God wants to give you a new life, and for you to walk the streets of gold in His kingdom forever.
@@Chris-hx9fw "Your flesh does not want to hear anything..."
Why do Christians have to talk like weirdos?
@@sphagbog Why would an all powerful being have to rely on a fallible, inefficient, equivocal human technology of storage like books?
I've been saying this for years!! This guy is my tribe.
Other members are Chairman Mao who murdered 80 to 100 million people and Stalin who murdered 20 million people
And why not. Jesus gives value to people by His sacrificial act of love. The incarnate God offered His flesh, His sinless flesh, as a payment for our sins.
This is while we were yet sinners. His enemies. "The heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it?. Yrs, it hss a natural enmity toward God and a strong love for self
It wants to rule!
Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6.
Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online.
'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme
love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted.
Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15.
Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, PRIDE HATES IT.
When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners.
Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5.
Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15.
When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.
PS. The other apostles were already baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
Read His preserved word, the Authorized Version later called the King James Bible.
Mark’s gospel says “Father why have you forsaken me” is Jesus quoting Psalm 22, it’s not like he could just say “this is fulfilling Psalm 22”, he had to quote it then those around him could fill in the blanks
Stone didn't even need to be rolled away if Jesus could walk through walls
He rolled the stone not for himself, but for those with little faith.
By the standards set he could have just appeared to everyone on the planet, and convinced everyone very easily
Schrodingers cat
It would need to be rolled away to let the women in.
it's presentation though innit
Fascinating video, much enjoyed. I understand this is an academic exercise and the questions asked remained in that context. One of the questions seldom asked or encountered in these types of exercises is what does all this mean to people who see credibility in these types of academic presentations and their search for God. I would be interested to know what influence this type of knowledge has in the presenter’s exercise of his faith, if any. Does it weaken it, make it stronger, more challenging, or destroy its/
Bart is an atheist.
since it was mentioned at around 1:27:30, in Jesus' day there was no english language. there were the various celtic dialects of the people of the british islands with a small mix of latin that was imported by the conquering romans.
After 50 minutes of lecture, a dense but clear expose, still some 40 minutes of Q&A ... by default going in various directions, but still an effort.
Quality!
I'm Brazilian I still learning English, so one day I come back here.
Hagalo estimado, vale la pena.
Não tenho certeza se é o mesmo livro em que a palestra é baseada (Misquoting Jesus), mas você pode ler o livro dele "O que Jesus disse? O que Jesus não disse?" que basicamente cobre os mesmos temas e mais detalhadamente
your English language skills are fine...
That's incredible you're learning English. Have fun and we'll see you back here one day soon.
@@espelhogamer eu terminei hoje o livro como Jesus se tornou Deus e vou começar esse hoje mesmo, abriu minha mente
I always find Bart Ehrman's lectures so refreshing and interesting. He is truly quite brilliant.
@dom com. how immature - are you like 8 years old? grow up
@dom com. He neither claims to be, nor is he perceived as, a "prophet" in any way, so maybe you should beware of wrong assumptions before spouting them.
He is very brilliant in confusing the people
@@thepalehorse7015 He's confusing to those who are already confused.
@@thepalehorse7015 He's confusing to the ignorant only
Great question at 1:08:02 that you need to hear and consider - "omission is not contradiction" - this is material to textual criticism. No two people see or describe things exactly alike. For example, consider a witness who said "I saw and heard Bob and Tom in a room having a conversation. Now consider these facts which are all true but different (1) Bob and Tom were in the room having a conversation (2) Tom was in the room (3) Bob was in the room (4) Bob was in the room having a conversation (5) Tom was in the room having a conversation (6) I saw Bob in the Room (7) I saw Tom in the room - etc - you get my point and the numerous iterations of the statement that you could make and have them all be accurate.
But its God's inspired word so there cant be mistakes God can protect his word dont it i question the preaching at my church alot of times they are contradicting trust i cant turn a blind eye
Each gospel gives something different so they wrote personal stuff couldnt be God words some not all
Prof. Ehrman delivers another thought-provoking and logical lecture. This phenomenon of cascading errors in translation and transcription can be axiomatized with Information Theory. Excellent and worthwhile video.
It's fanfiction. No different that Dianetics by Elron Hubbard of Scientology. That's the point.
The 'errors' are full stops left out, or a comma misplaced, or Jesus wept, or Jesus cried. they are the sort of varients he is making his money out of
When you see this kind of lecture by great christian scholar proving that there was 1, 2, 3 or rather more cases of story development and addition of what wasn't there before.... you know what! this is what God tells us 1400 yrs ago... woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, "this is from God'',
Demha Gurhan what timeline are you on?
As a Christian, I’m not afraid to listen to Ehrman. My thoughts on Biblical inspiration are greatly challenged by him.
Good. Always test your beliefs to strengthen their foundation or free yourself from those that are faulty.
so if they are so frequently self contradictory, why would you regard them as "inspired" in the first place.
The bare fact that the "originals" of the NT texts apparently no longer exist, would be the strongest evidence that the proto-nicene church CHANGED WHAT THEY SAID even if originally they were "closer to correct" by some unseen standard.
@@Chomper750
or test your beliefs when they seem very out of sync with observable reality.
since "faulty" is in the eyes only of him/her who dares to QUESTION the vast claims of miraculous integrity.
@@tracyavent-costanza346I love Jesus, i love his teachings. Religious texts are written as a narrative. Sometimes Christ says "only the evil generation will ask for signs" and sometimes cast out Demons from pigs testify to him "Son of God, you have come early to punish us.?"
I believe one to be true and reject the other because it sounds stupid.
Is it true that the origiinal word describing Mary was "unmarried young woman" and not a virgin? Becase, you know, that changes things a bit.
Jan Joska To a point, yes. But think of the kind of culture Isiah is writing to: a Jewish culture that stoned for impurity and unchasteness. So, it is really not an inaccurate representation to say “virgin”
A fantastic lecture. It answered a lot of questions I had. I'm glad you touched on Jesus most likely speaking Aramaic. If Jesus and his followers all spoke Aramaic, why were all the New Testament documents written in Greek? I think the point you made in the Q&A was that the NT documents may have originally been written in Aramaic and then later copied into Greek. But why were they copied into Greek? Was it for the same reason they were copied into Syriac, Coptic, etc.(to reach a wider audience)? You focused on the massive number of differences in the NT manuscripts. I think you said the vast majority of them are small and insignificant. Flipping that, what percentage of the NT manuscripts is the same? If a large percentage is the same, isn't that evidence that the New Testament documents were copied mostly accurately?
This guy is very bright and thorough
Check him out. he isnt very accurate,
I found what I was looking for. Thank you very much.
As did I.
Eye opener indeed
You are one of my favorites, please continue in your great work. I love your books because they are so informative and interesting. You are a truth-seeker.
Truth is when you pray to God and He comes down.
you dont have to seek for the truth very deeply to find Ehrman's mistakes
@8:00 Did the copyists also believe that they were being acted upon by divine inspiration? If so, did that mean they might have also believed that mistakes they made weren't mistakes at all, but were from the divine inspiration 'modifying" or "correcting' earlier mistakes?
Dr. Dan Brubaker in a recent video spoke very highly of your work. Consequently, I stopped by for a preview.
This professor's lectures are always fascinating.
At about 26:35, he says that in Luke, it takes three days to realize that Jesus isn't with them. This is not consistent with either the NRSV translation or the Greek text put out by the Society for Biblical Literature (or the KJV, for that matter). In both cases, the text says that they traveled one day under the assumption that Jesus was with them before going back, and that they found him in the temple after three days of looking for him (see Luke 2:42-48). Kind of odd to see such an error in a talk whose focus is errors in the text (and what we should be reading into them).
He then says 'on the third day his mother finds him in the temple'. I think it was more a slip of the tongue than anything else.
Maybe, but it seems like more than that given that he goes out of his way to talk about how strange it is.
Also given that he says other stuff that's wrong as well. He claims that the "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" bit doesn't show up until the 10th century, but it's clearly present in at least one manuscript, the Codex Bezae, which has been dated to the late 4th or early 5th century. See here: cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-NN-00002-00041/238. The "he who is without sin" bit starts at the end of the 5th line.
Quick2000
Please explain how you know what my religious beliefs are, and what I said that makes you think that I believe that the Bible is to be taken literally.
Also, your "counter"-argument (which is against something that I never said) would be more compelling if you hadn't literally copied and pasted the whole thing from an episode of The West Wing.
Come on, that is a bit easy. I don't fall into your requested demographic, but telling you what would be the Historic Jesus's reply is not too hard. To double check, you could try and research Jewish doctrine of the time, and add a little bit of what we know of Jesus as the religious teacher of The Law- I have no real clue of any of the Jewish Doctrine adopted at the time.
1. Who are you to question The Law of Yahweh, blasphemer. He who can afford a Bull, where others have but a lamb or lowly dove, should remember charity as by this they shall be judged.
- If that is The Law why are you questioning it. To do so in this case is usurping the position of God by saying you or your neighour have influence.
I suspect you should actually take you offering to the temple and then share the meat at home and not DIY.
Remember that Jesus had no problem with the current Temple religious practices, but found issue with the corruption and disrespect.
2. Value is not something I am troubled with. My people look after that. He who would conduct a transaction in the dead of night, is an idiot.
- Not really his field.
3. Why do you now question your teachers? You have not appeared as a vision, existing where you were not before. The Law of your birth is The Law of your end.
- This is a nonsensical question in that it is a social issue. You have grown up in a community where dealing with such issues is the norm.
4. How does your friends point of view influence that which is governed by The State?
5. This matter should immediately be presented for judgement. He who breaks the smallest of The Law, shall be the lowliest in heaven.
- This is not a matter of life or death, or an emergency such as a donkey stuck in a bog.
6. See 5.
- You are yet again Blaspheming and I suspect a Stoning is in your immediate future.
7. Demon! Leave this man!
- This is the same as most of your other questions.
After going through that, I can not see what point you are trying to make.
Jesus was a Jewish Teacher. He taught the Jewish Law and taught that his followers should hold to a higher level of the Jewish Law than what the religious establishment held. He saw the priests as corrupt and not upholding fundamental doctrine.
I cannot imagine what your reaction would have been if I wasn't agreeing with you. Settle down man. I started the post telling you I was not a christian, and made an educated guess on the replies by Jesus?
This is pretty interesting, and just goes to show how gullible people are. In your case, you Hate christians, yet you have now declared words I have invented and written as coming from Jesus.
Life and evolution is again given to words.
He mentioned a few cases of having versions with differences between them, but it seems like if there are as many mistakes as he says would be made by making copies, we'd have many different versions of every book. How many different versions of each book of the New Testament have been found? To clarify, assume that the oldest version of the book of Mark we know about was written in 200. Assume that the second oldest was written in 250. How did those differ? If there are, say, 20 originals that we know of and 17 of them are identical, wouldn't that argue against his contention that every version would be different because every copy had mistakes?
How about Pail and the author delliberately misquoting The Hebrew Bible?
You grammar nazis. Could you at least answer his question before you impose your grammatical superiority.
Why does God have to inspire to have his word delivered? Why can't he or she or whatever just deliver?, just as he has purported to deliver entire 'creation'
Because you can't charge people money if their God just loved them enough to be forthright with them instead of torturing them with games. They have to tithe to their church to get that knowledge. Organized religion is a ponzi scheme.
The real message is ingrained inside of us. You find it if you cared deep enough. External message only provides with a general guidance. It's obligatory only for those who seek more, and want to better their understanding, Provided that the external message, is the real word of God, and not a compilation of contradicting stories!
@@maji9193 how convenient. God didn't write it in the sky, he hid it inside of us, but you can only know it if you accept Jesus first
@@lupooflunarorigin120 Yes, based on the o-so convenient doctrine of us all being born 'spiritually dead' for something WE never chose.
@@maji9193 YA". God allowing the contradicting stories to full fill the earth as man lives in it. Yet hope is still here From 1 man who started this Book 1700 years ago and prolonged up to 40 . , and we still in Belief of it. How much longer for will it take for Man US to Fall Away? 20 100 1000 more years? So hard yet easy or confusion appears in agony suffering Christians who forsaken or feel been forsakened Agrifee .
1:17:00 ELohim means literally "sons of God EL". Jews may argue that there was one and only one god, but it's unarguable from the Semitic history, that the ancients accepted multiple gods and their children, all descended from the creator AN, EL, YAH, IL, ILU, al ILAH, ...
As i've started reading an English translation of the Torah, it's quite striking that in early Genesis God says "Let US create"
How do you know that the second scribe didn't make a mistake that returns the copy to it's original form?
At about 1:23:00, he lost me. "Don't read those books", and then arguing from his own authority. (note - I haven't the book in question, but did read Dr. Ehrman's...Just like Dr. Ehrman did not read the book.)
At around 45:00 he mentions that all the 4 Gospel accounts mention different things. This is no secret, as there is a book called "Harmony of the Gospels". It is laid out just as he noted "horizontally". It shows, not that the writers are telling it differently (as in discrepancy) but rather differently in how they saw it. Each writer saw the account at different angles! Thus just showing their humanity, as, the Gospel of Matthew talks about money in more detail and greater frequency than the other gospels and the Gospel of Luke, includes greater detail about ailments and uses precise medical terminology. As Luke (a Physician) was the only one to mention Jesus was wrapped in "swaddling cloths" at his birth .Luke 2:7. Matthew (a tax collector) is the only one who tells us the precise amount of the temple tax: Matthew 17:24.
No, the Gospel writers are not writing discrepancies, rather writing their own views of the same event, which are harmonic when studied, thus was made the book called; "Harmony of the Gospels". So, dont give this guy much credence, as God looks after his word (it say's such in the bible; "...for I am watching over My word to perform it.”) This is the best direct translation of Jeremiah 1:12 from Hebrew to English from The new American standard bible, NASB. We can trust that those who even gave their lives, as did Tyndale, did so for the task of bringing forth Gods word! They did this with the aid and help from Gods Holy Spirit, and can be confident that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: " 2 Timothy 3:16.
Got a few of his books, brillliant. Never seen him speak so this is a good find.
would you please debate N.T. Wright? Or Craig Keener? Or Ben Witherington?
There are literally no writings about Jesus until 40 years after his supposed death....does anybody remember anything anybody said accurately after 40 years?...an entire generation
Actually, Messianic creeds about the life, miracles, death and resurrection of JESUS were circulating 2-3 years after JESUS ascended into Heaven. The Book of Galatians was written in 47 or 48 AD.
The Koran wasn't written for almost 200 years after the death of Mohammed.
@@J0HN_3_16 exactly 47 or 48 AD.... so me saying 40 was generous
@@proverbalizer no, you were misleading. JESUS was crucified around 33 AD. So the first New Testament book was written 14-15 years later. As I previously mentioned, writings about JESUS were widely circulated within 2 or 3 years of HIS ascension.
The evidence for JESUS is overwhelming if you are willing to examine it
i don't even remember stuff I did or said last week. nor is there any indication that the "apostles" took written notes either.
@@J0HN_3_16Hadiths(life of prophet and what he said/did) were put together after 200 years yes, but 1) this statement is an oversimplification 2) Hadith is what people have said about the Prophet, which is the reason why Muslims don't take Hadiths as Quran- which Muslims claim is the book from god, that was written and complied while the prophet was alive.
I'd suggest be more careful and do ur research before you say anything so confidently, that's our responsibility as human beings, thank you:)
I would love to take his class.
Join his blog, it does not cost much, it all goes to charity, and you get the mans thoughts on a very regular basis. I have been a member for 6 years.
As I have examined each gospel I notice that each gospel expounds the word or the story that is lacking in other gospel but i found no contradiction at all.
Just like in Mark the name mentioned are only Magdalene and mary mother of james, but in Luke the women are Magdalene, and mary mother of james together with other women, I see no contradiction there but expounded words or story same with other verses.
The reason why Christian readers find no errors or contradiction is because they read it wholly and entirely thus puzzling the missing event in other gospel and that makes them understand the whole story.
You know the entire history does not solely depend on the writings of one historian. Each historians wrote historical events that are not entirely identical but they're somehow connected to each other the same with the gospel of the Apostles.
Do we believe Noah put all animals--two by two, male and female as it says in Genesis 5, or does Noah put 14 of every clean animals and two of every unclean animals?
Do we believe that Jesus died on Passover as Mark, Natthew and Luke tell us, or did he die a full 24 hours BEFORE the holiday as John’s gospel asserts?
Did Jesus say “No sign will be given” or did he say “a sign WILL be given?"
Did you actually watch all of this video? He actually covers this very thing with clarity.
@Faisal Siraj can you prove that god said that or are you quoting a book that you claim without evidence is the word of god
What about the mistranslations of the originals in Hebrew into the "original" Greek? Then the mistranslation from Greek into Latin? Then the mistranslations into 400-year-old "English"?
Kindly add subtitles to this channel including Urdu. Thanks
What is difference between Bart Ehemann and Christians?
- Christian task is to build bridges to explain between so much contradictions.
- Bart Ehrmamn reads the book, how it was made by the men
Yup. Ive listened to apologists but seriously fuc their mental gymnastics.
It makes me cringe alot of them.
I admire the patience of this guy dealing with these pedantic questioners.
Allan Hegyes
Bart the pedantic one here....all his knowledge is but child’s play !!! The questioners asked clever questions that Bart couldn’t answer !!!
Yes, because your religion is above reproach and no one can question the immutable and infallible word of your Lord. Yes, how petty of these questioners to even imply the most minor of inconsistencies in your perfect scriptures.
Yes, mark lewis, The Church is Indefectible and created all you know and take for granted. you can't make your shame over sin go away.
ehrman deals with pedantic elements as a routine facet of his public image
47:00 each gospel was written from a different perspective so yeah they’re gonna say different things. Hence why Mark doesn’t include the fact Peter and John ran to tomb to see that Jesus wasn’t there, I believe Mark interviewed Mary Magdalene to get her side of the story
Thank you so much Dr. Bart Ehrman. Very enlightening indeed. I just might be headed towards being agnostic myself. I learned a lot from this episode.
the subject should be a must taught in every seminary school throught the world.
We would have very few pastors if they were taught the truth in seminary.
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
As said, the 'errors' are punctuation errors or differences in choices Jesus wept, versus Jesus cried
@@joandark2 the vast majority yes. But the minor differences between. "Jesus wept" and " Jesus cried" could lead to totally different interpretation of the scripture. because the words are synonyms but are not identical. Cried could give the impression of anger or sadness; tears or yelling. While wept implies a deep sadness or morning with tears. The idea that these tiny seemingly insignificant changes happened repeatedly generation after generation for hundreds of years is the problem. Not only that but the bible was clearly altered over time. The last verses of Revelation are proof of that. Why discourage someone from doing something that has never happened before. And why wouldn't the little punctuation mistakes matter if it says it's self not to change a single jot or tittle.
@@chrisb.7787 bart and many miss the entire point of the scriptures. The interpretation is about Jesus and nothing changes that.
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Mark 1:2 (KJV)
As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Luke 1:70 (KJV)
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luke 10:24 (KJV)
For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them].
Luke 16:31 (KJV)
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Luke 18:31 (KJV)
Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
Luke 24:25 (KJV)
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luke 24:44 (KJV)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.
John 1:45 (KJV)
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
I can't help bringing up "Life of Brian."
"What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?"
“He has a wife you know... do you know what she’s called?”
The name brian was carefully selected.
Could be misspelt as brain.
Much lack of in Life of Brian.
@@markrymanowski719 Just remember, you're an individual.
"Always look on the bright side of life".
@ 1:05:42, what version of the Bible is he quoting, in 1 John 5:8? I've got "the Spirit, water, and blood," but he's got "the Father, Word, and the Holy Spirit." Does he have a copy of a different manuscript that most Bible translators don't?
Does anyone know?
I have the same thing you do. The NKJV says what he is saying.
Bert Ehrman is LEGENDARY!!
@Zakar Naiky cry harder 😂
Bert Ehrmam believes that the gospels teach that Jesus is God and that Jesus was crucified..
What do Muslims cherry-pick information more from? Ehrman or the Bible?
This has been a fascinating talk. Thanks. Is there comparable research on the Koran?
Nope. Christians got used to the idea of secular Bible scholarship a long time ago, although it didn't really take off until the 1980's with the founding of the Jesus Seminar. Muslims still haven't gotten used to the idea of secular Koran scholarship and feel very threatened by it. So those few who are engaged in that quest have to proceed very cautiously.
@Abu taj md mahbub Ul alam that's nonsense and you ought to know it. stop listening to your tummy and do some research
Abu taj md mahbub Ul alam You only have the Quran that was left after all the other versions were destroyed.😂
Don't know about a lecture, but if you want to read a pretty devastating book, try 'Why I am not a Muslim' by Ibn Warraq.
Yes Bill Warner has done extensive research on Islam and such on Koran.If you think that Islam is Judaism or Christianity like religion you are very much wrong since the main character of Islam is Mohammed and not Allah.Koran is Less then 5th of whole religious scriptures which Mohammed view of Allah( he is the only way to Allah ) and rest the main body is Hadith and Sira that are sayings and traditions of Mohammed.
When the Koran and Hadith are in conflict which happens often like for example how many time one should pray to Allah in Koran Mohammed say 3 times but in Hadith 5 times and so a Muslim would pray 5 times.
In general in Islam sin is when one denies Mohammed being a prophet and not observing the rules that he has established even do none of the scriptures are actually believed to be written by Mohammed as it is believed to be illiterate and such could not comprehend never the less killing, rapping, paedophilia, enslaving,lying...if it is done to a none Muslim meaning follower of Mohammed it is not considered a sin in Islam and such it doesn't have a universal understanding of Sin but rather a double standards where one is permitted to one thing to a Muslim and completely different to a none Muslim
01:05 the johannine comma is so essential for the doctrine of the trinity, that the latest edition of the catholic bible (the nova vulgata and the latest CEI italian editions for example) omit it!
The god of Israel said, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Leviticus 19:18). Why ?
Is it good to love your neighbour or is it just something he made up for no particular reason ?
It must be something he made up (created), otherwise he is not the maker (creator) of all things.
Therefore loving your neighbour as yourself is not actually good, so you don't need to wash him.
", "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Leviticus 19:18). Why ?" The passage means to treat others with the same standard of care that we all expect of our neighbors. Don't be unfair or negative towards others prejudging. ie don't be a dick. Problem with that?
Actually Confucius said that some 500 years before Yeshua, ( Jesus)
I just finished reading the book. It gave me great insight into the early centuries of the Christian movement.
@new name Just as easily as you posit your condemnation without evidence, i can dismiss it entirely.
(Put up or shut up, to put it crudely! ;-)
He is such a super good story teller. I am listening to his talk while writing my thesis.
35:20 where he's saying John 8:7 is definitely a later addition is a bit misleading. Seems like there are many records of early Christians mentioning this passage, as well as one Greek Church Father, the 4th century Didymus the Blind - Ehrman says no Greek commentator mentions it until the 10th century - while Augustine wrote about it:
"Certain persons of little faith, or rather enemies of the true faith, fearing, I suppose, lest their wives should be given impunity in sinning, removed from their manuscripts the Lord's act of forgiveness toward the adulteress, as if he who had said, Sin no more, had granted permission to sin."
At the very least, it seems far from as clear cut as Ehrman presents - and he must know this - and makes me wonder if I can really trust anything he says.
You are just wrong. Thanks for playing.
Who iş augustine and can he be trusted and reliable?Its about reliable sourced not blind faith. Reliablity leaving to truth no on hyoe and popular bandwagon beliefe.bandwagon fallacy does not mean truth. The bible has it problem and division in Christianity and differneves very early on
2 Timothy 3:16, all scripture is given by inspiration, and is profitable for correction ect, also 1 Corinthians 12. The answerers are in there. Personally, I do not think that God would want to write it on the table of my heart if it is a big fat lie as this false prophet says.
Be careful when reading the scripture is not wrong. Mark 1:2-3 is a mixture of Malachi 3, Exodus 23:20, and Isaiah 40:3
Malachi 3:1
New International Version
3 “I will send my messenger,(A) who will prepare the way before me.
Isaiah 40:3
New International Version
3 A voice of one calling:
“In the wilderness prepare
the way for the Lord[a];
Exodus 23:20
New American Bible (Revised Edition)
20 See, I am sending an angel(A) before you, to guard you on the way and bring you to the place I have prepared.
Thank you sir for your time and work, you have answered countless questions for me over the years and I truly appreciate it, best wishes from Tennessee
Amazing amazing amazing... To Christian brothers and sisters I would love to recommend Tovia Singer’s videos
1:03:29 "The Da Vinci Code says..."
Hey hey hey! I'm the only one who make jokes here, alright?
Speaking of mistakes, 25:35 the "I send My messenger" quote in Mark is from Malachi, not Exodus as claimed. The fact that the main part of Mark's quotation "prepare the way" etc. DOES come from Isaiah doesn't get mentioned.
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
Quran 2 : 79
The koran is also okay with slavery, religious persecution, and child marriage.
@@pineapplepen540 thanks for providing proof of your claims
@@abhmd4481 Mohammed was a slaver and pedophile who persecuted religious minorities. These are basic facts about the man. Do you mean exact verses?
Lies
@Testament Faith
Which Gospel are you talking about.🤔
i laughed so hard at that "mum sometimes you really tick me off".
Mikhail Kalashnikov That joke makes an excellent Monty Python sketch!
I see that you are a master debater, what do you debate?
See I would have went with "Okay according to Aristotle Jesus died twice, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. NEXT."
i enjoyed this talk and Q&A, Dr. Ehrman. Have you looked at any of the New Testament manuscripts that have been found in Hebrew or Aramaic? Nehemiah Gordan has many videos, and I suppose books, about his findings.