Sengoku is probably the best positioned to “run” sword, even tho he probably didn’t found it. He has experience in managing double agents in Rossinante, wouldn’t put infiltrating blackbeards crew past him.
Yeah, Sengoku is the first person we see managing a pirate double agent (Rocinante). I'm surprised Liam didn't mention him as a possible leader of SWORD, especially since he picked Kuzan as his replacement and could have been handling Drake pre-timeskip (unlike Fujitora).
I think Sengoku created SWORD with Rosinante being part of it or in some earlier iteration of it. And when Sengoku wanted to resign following the war, he planned to give the reigns to SWORD over to Kuzan. But the Elders wanted Sakazuki to be fleet admiral, and that threw a wrench in the plan. So Kuzan attempts to fight Sakazuki, loses, and then "resigns" from the marines but in reality was transitioning to an undercover SWORD role. Which would mean Sengoku is most likely still in charge of SWORD and his relaxed semi-retired attitude is to disguise that.
Law as a member of SWORD would be pretty nice ngl. he doesn't seem to be the kind to care about large treasures or being pirate king, but as a member of SWORD he could be looking to pay back Rosinante and maybe even lead a life Rosinante would be proud to see him lead
even if he is a SWORD or not but judging by the person who is valuable to him is a Marine, no wonder Law still has sympathy for some Marines for example Smoker, even though he is hot-headed but Smoker can also be invited to cooperate with Law such as fighting Vergo and even talking about Law's plans . Smoker also didn't open his mouth about where Law and Luffy were going when Doflamingo came and asked where Law and Luffy were going.
I have a theory that Sengoku is the leader or at least affiliated with sword for many reason already stated in other comments AND that he 'recruited' Law on Dressrosa. considering that the two talked about the OG marine spy Rosinante.
I feel like garp being the leader of sword or at least the founder of it should be explored more. Just seems like a natural progression for his character considering his past experiences with the injustices of the world government and friendships with pirates. great video btw
Feel like sword was a faro idea that he and sengoku started. A part of the marines that could gather info etc without being under the eye of the WG. With sengoku as fleet commander let harp run it and checked in with certain people like Roselinte (can’t spell) but when he stepped down and Akaniu stepped up they went more deep undercover as akaniu wouldntside with their ideals.
The only issue I have about Kuzan being the leader of Sword is the same issue I had about Drake being the leader of Sword: Logistics. It’s very difficult (read: nearly impossible) to command the entire organization and issue orders when you, yourself, are on an infiltration mission.
@@boogie1434 Like a certain semi-retired vice admiral who hates both Sakazuki (for murdering his adoptive grandson) and the Celestial dragons, yet is still in the marines (for some reason) and trained Helmeppo and Koby who both just happen to be in sword? Hmm, I wonder who that could be....
Honestly, I don't see why either Kuzan or Smoker's SWORD membership means the other can't be a member. They're a secret organization within the Marines that opposes the Marines. I have no problem imagining that not every member knows who every other member is, because If one member is uncovered, then them knowing who every other member is would compromise the entire organization all at once. The leader would surely know the identity of every member, but the people below him would likely have very little info on the rest of the organization due to the necessity that comes from being a secret organization that seeks to sabotage the government from within it's ranks. I swear though, it would be hilarious to me if the leader ends up being Kizaru, and that is a very real possibility given just how little we actually know about him. It would be interesting to see more about him, because right now, I think all we know about him is that he's Sentomaru's uncle and he seems like a bit of an idiot that times. But that second part could easily just be him putting on an act, because there's so little info about him, and his personality feels like it clashes with his job even more than Kuzan did when he was Aokiji. I'm just saying he weird and quite possibly the Admiral we know the least about despite being the second one properly introduced to the story.
Yes. It could even be a Barroque Works situation, in which the members recieve orders from a superior figure, but they may not even know who the leader is. Sword doesn't need that much communication between members to work out. The only dent to this theory is the fact that Coby and Drake seemed to have a lot of communication when their missions didn't seem to overlap that much.
I think the fact that every member of sword or possible members has some affiliation with Garp is too much of a coincidence to overlook. A lot more will happen with Garp and dragon as oda said the series would be about one of them if Luffy didn't exist
Blackbeard 100% needs Kuzan in order to succeed, as he is the only character we've seen capable of circumventing his entire crew's whole ocean weakness with a single devil fruit.
I suspect BB is very well aware of Kuzan's suspicious motives, but let him in anyway because 1. He'll prove himself useful anyway to keep up his cover 2. Reckless trust in destiny 3. As a "they won't be able to stop me even with knowing my every move" power move
The threat of Kuzan as a part of BB's crew is more valuable to push plans than Kuzan actually helping at all. As long as Kuzan defects late; at a good time, it's likely a massive benefit to BB overall. Especially considering that BB can just keep Kuzan in the dark for many things. If Luffy thought Kuzan would protect BB, even Luffy would -think twice- get scolded by Nami and at least be stalled.
I think Blackbeard looked at it as he can’t fully trust Kuzan but he needs his raw power in order to stay on top not that BB can’t handle shit himself but with the raw power of Kuzan’s devil fruit it would be stupid not to let him join
we have dog-flamingo lets have kai-dog too[day 51] Edit:Liam i have been doing this for 51 days(every day is a vid) so more, can we pls get kai-dog. And everyone thanks for the likes so much!
This all makes me wonder what the hell happened to Moria? Maybe he joined Blackbeard and is just a subordinate, not a Titanic Captain. Or he refused and got killed which seems highly unlikely.
He is def get kil led and his df bein taken awa y. I wonder where Perona is? Is she already meet Moria? I hope not, if she hed meet him in Bb island idk what will happen to her.
My personal choice for the leader/-s was always sengoku and or garp. Seemed like an obvious choice to me. I mean, sengoku knows the true history and garp hates the world nobles so much he refused becoming an admiral. They are also in the perfect position to recruit others without drawing too much attention to themselves.
In the interview with Aoyama, Oda initially says that he isn't sure how many years it will take to complete the series. But, in the following statement, the author confirms that his goal is to end One Piece in around three years. Also, the mangaka already planned the fitting ending to Luffy's journey.
Yea I'm honestly not buying the ending in 3 years thing. Hell the my hero author originally said the series would end by this year and there's no way in hell that's happening
He said 12 years ago we were half way done when ace died and the marienford war happen. He said 5 years ago that once wano is done he is 70% complete with one piece So no. We have at least a good 6 to 7 years left
I mean, another possibility: Fujitora and Kuzan are "Co-heads," which is to say they both lead. Each offers unique experiences, and both are in unique situations to go about gathering information. Fujitora is the "acting head," giving out missions and such, while Kuzan pursues the greater goal of keeping a tag on Blackbeard.
I think it’s pretty insane that no-one has suggested that Garp is the head of SWORD 1. He is still in the marines as a (semi-retired) Vice Admiral even though he hates Sakazuki and the celestial dragons to the point he rejected a promotion as it would mean directly serving the CD. Pretty strange that he still there. 2. He closely trained Koby and Helmeppo, who just so happen to both be in sword (who else would have put Helmeppo in sword unless they trusted them completely) 3. Has never said a bad thing about his son or Luffy and even laughs at Luffy’s antics. Plus, he never tries to actively hunt down Luffy, even when commanded to. A man who went toe-to-tope with a Rodger in his prime could of easily taken down Luffy after Enies Lobby if he wanted to. 4. This could also explain his inaction at Marineford, not stepping in and saving Ace, even though he clearly loved him. Stepping in would have broken his cover and that’s why he was so conflicted, he almost did break after Sakasuki murdered Ace (I’m guessing deep down, he was hoping Luffy was going to pull off the escape).
Random but kind of related… I noticed a somewhat coincidence maybe or maybe not in One Piece… with the Four Emperors… Drake a sword member was keeping tabs on Kaido, Kuzan another possible and most likely sword member is keeping tabs on Blackbeard… Stussy a CP0 agent (CP0 being the anthesis of Sword) was involved in the Black Market and attending many of Big Mom’s tea parties most likely keeping a tab on her… so is there a SWORD member or more likely a CP0 undercover agent keeping tabs on Shanks or most likely among his crew?
Sengoku is the most likely option, even if he doesn't lead it anymore. It's fair to assume he would be one of if not the only person that knew Drake was an undercover marine while Sengoku was fleet admiral
Law being a member of sword would make 1 event make sense. If I recall, we never got an explanation as to why law came to marineford. There was absolutely nothing going on there that could be of interest to him. It seems he showed up to only retrieve luffy, which if it wasn't connected to sword, would be a massive coincidence. Keep in mind I'm literally thinking of this now, but garp is probably the leader if law was a member. I'd imagine garp planned for law to use "room" to save ace when he gave the word
Why are we assuming Sword is a newly-made faction, or that whoever is in charge of it must be someone we've already met? It's not at all crazy to assume Oda is going to introduce new characters connected to this group. He already has, just a few chapters ago. But given Rosinante's history as a pirate-turned-Marine-turned-undercover-pirate, I think it's more likely that Sword has been around for at least a generation already. And it would be a pretty nice touch if Law were involved with it after all.
I would like that aokiji actually did win in punk hazard and is the real fleet admiral. This would explain how koby managed to remain in the marine and Aka inu's behavior.
I whole heartedly feel Smoker is not a member of sword, him being a Marine who actually strives for a "true" justice while being a part of a group like the Marines that aren't so nice makes more of a narrative I feel like.
Why isn't Garp in this conversation? He's the only marine we know of that was specifically stated to dislike the celestial dragons, he's got a long history of working with or protecting his "enemies" including fighting side by side with Roger and looking after his son, Roger could've trusted him the secrets of the world the same way he trusted him with the life of his son. Speaking of sons, Garp's son is literally the leader of the revolutionary army, and he raised his grandson on an island frequently visited by a Yonko. He also let his grandson get away after that same grandson destroyed one of the 3 most important institutions in the World Gov, Ennies Lobby. We think he might be loyal to the World Gov because of his actions in the Paramount War, but maybe he couldn't afford to lose his rank and undermine the efforts of Sword. Idk but I think there's a lot more to Garp's story than meets the eye.
Desperately need a scene with Law, Koby, and Kuzan all in the same room. Garp is still the leader in my mind, his connections to Kuzan and hatred for the government are too deep. Law gave 100 pirate hearts to the government to become a warlord. Impel Down escapees are seen frozen within the walls of Punk Hazard-- the very same island Law made his base of operations. The very same island Kuzan was conveniently on his way to visit. IMO Law and Kuzan worked together to get the hearts and deal with the bodies. And I further believe the event that landed them said hearts was the Rocky Port Incident.
Spot on about O'Hara. That would make a ton of sense if that was the turning point for Kuzan. Well said! Finding out that the justice-focused organization one is a part of, is willing to use genocide to achieve their goals, must be pretty jarring I would think. I'm still upset that Kuzan killed Jaguar D Saul. I feel he could have tried to let him escape.. I guess a giant might have trouble escaping the island inconspicuously tho but still.. the part where Robin is rowing away by herself and doing the "derishishishi," is one of the saddest parts I feel. Have a heart Aokiji! Come on dude. Couldn't be cool and let Saul go? Cold as ice smh
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Honestly, Sengoku leading Sword makes significantly more sense when you factor in him being retired. Before doing so, as Fleet Admiral, Sengoku had mountains of work and was center stage for the entire Marine organization. Now, having stepped down, Sengoku is no longer in the spotlight. Moreover, no longer being the Fleet Admiral, Sengoku has more freedom to move about and, to a certain extent, likely under less surveillance/notice from the Elders. Furthermore, Sengoku has been shown to have experience dealing with infiltration operations with Rosinante. Also, do note that Drake, a confirmed member of Sword, was directly involved with the operation with Rosinante, which Sengoku was leading. Even if you want to make the argument that Sengoku founded Sword and that, upon retirement, passed leadership of it over to Kuzan, I would argue it is still very likely Sengoku is running things in Kuzan's absence. Of all the possible Marines that logically could have set up Sword and had the logistical knowledge to run it smoothly under the World Government's radar, Sengoku is the only one that fits that bill. Garp is the antithesis of subtle, X-Drake is too disconnected from the Marines , Fugitora is too new to the organization (and is too much of a troublemaker), and Kuzan honestly doesn't strike me as the type to formulate this sort of plan. Sengoku, on the other hand, is knowledgeable; extraordinarily cunning and strategic, as Marineford showed; is suggested to have a moral sense of justice, but is also willing to push it as needed; and, among all the previous possible candidates, is the one most removed from the Elders' radar for concern. I would be honestly shocked if Sengoku is not the leader (active or former) or founder of Sword. Just makes far too much sense.
"Kuzan was left with Just Ice." This should not be as funny as it is. I missed the rest of the video because I was laughing so hard. Had to watch again.
it's possible that kuzan was sent off/went off on his mission to join the Blackbeard pirates before smoker was recruited, even a "we don't speak of those out on mission until the end of that mission" kinda thing
If sword works independent of the main branch marines... then yes, I can definitely see Aokiji as being the leader. Because I cannot see him working under sakasuki willingly.
In my opinion Kuzan is connected with dragon after he left the navy. That could be the reason why the hq of the revelutionary was abandon when the bb pirates raided it. I doubt that Kuzan could take it anymore and he wouldn't accept a navy where Sakazuki is Fleet Admiral. This was actually his only ambition to be Fleet Admiral.
I kinda of like the idea the Saul could still be alive. Firstly, he’s one of only ten characters to hold the initial D (Luffy, Dragon, Garp, Roger, Ace, Rouge, Blackbeard, Rocks, Law, and Saul himself). Second, we never actually see him die. Sure, we see him get frozen over by Aokiji, but the first time we meet Aokiji we see both Luffy and Robin get frozen over entirely by him and they’re both alive and well. To top it all off, we also know the name of the move Aokiji used to “kill” Saul: Ice Time Capsule. So I believe Jaguar D. Saul may very well have been “killed” by Aokiji in order to protect him from the other marines and potentially given him a chance to escape Ohara or something, so maybe we will see him again.
somehow i think some people from Marines also interested in what happened during Void century and intersted for what the One Piece truly is, so these people were formed a secret organization inside Marine itself by using spionage to gather infos from the pirates about Void Century and One Piece.. and they formed organization called SWORD
I definitely would go garp is the leader, I think sword was founded back right after rogars execution. He openly hates the celestial dragons and was once higher rank at the time then aokiji and akainu. I can't remember where I heard it that aokiji joined because garp saved him. Then in a cover story akainu had a small sword tattoo. Finally Colby was taught by garp directly which could be how Colby joined sword so easily.
You forgot about Garp. He hates the tenryuubito system, did not take active part in the Marineford battle, hates Sakazuki for killing Ace, has affiliation/took under his wings Koby and Hermep that we know are part of Sword and who adore Luffy and the Strawhats. Plus Law saves Luffy in Marineford meaning Garp should "owe" something to Law. Given that Law became a Shichibukai during the 2 years skip, Garp would also have had access to Law, so could have invited him into Sword. Garp would be the perfect candidate to run Sword being the "Hero" marine during Shiki's time. He would have connexions being Vice Admiral, would know Kuzan personnally and most other high ranking Marine Officers he invited into Sword.
I can't remember if it was me dreaming this or not but I remember Garp being the head of Sword Marians working in the background that's why he doesn't want to go higher in command in the normal marines so he can stay under the radar.
Smoker and Kuzan could BOTH be in sword if for some reason, not all sword members know each other's identities. Some kind of deep undercover situation could benefit from that.
I believe Sengoku found SWORD. He was a fleet admiral. Which meant he knows some info in the world government. Of course, he would have to turn a blind eye. But I think he is a righteous person and formed SWORD to secretly fight ciper pol. He also deals with double agents like Rosinante. Additionally, I believe he should've passed the role of the top of SWORD to Kuzan. I believe they did have a strong relationship too as Sengoku recommended Kuzan to be fleet admiral.
I just want to know more about SWORD in general, it was only recently introduced to us and we still don't know that much about it, other than reveals for several members within SWORD. I do get the feeling the Marines as a whole don't know about SWORD, given Doll's comments on what Helmeppo is doing in her base in chapter 1061.
Hey dude - random thought since I'm in the Fishman Arc, but you should totally do an analysis on how Hordy Jones and Luffy are pretty much the same character, but one went dark and then other one chose the good pirate life. Love your vids
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Great call about Koby. I would love to see that moment too. Seeing Koby and Kuzan discuss his choice to join BB Pirates could be quite illuminating I feel. It could at least begin to answer some important questions for us
Probably sword has spy in every (pre-yonko luffy n buggy) yonko. Kuzan in BBeard, Drake in Kaido and perhaps there are spies in Big Mom and Shanks. However a newer member of Shanks Pirates I could think of is Rockstar. Maybe it's about time Oda make the character relevant. Maybe he is part of sword? And Big Mom Pirates has so many ppl it could've been someone that married her kid.
I love when Aokji when to To To Land and said "it's freezing time", and proceeded to freeze Chocola Town and kidnap Pudding There is no joke, I'm just happy we finally get to see this man after almost a whole decade
8:35 I believe that Kuzan is the one who guards Pudding. This would would make the theory about Kuzan being the man scarred by flame true, as in that Kuzan holds a being that can literally deciphre the poneglyphs.
Crazy theory: dragon used to be a marine, and founded sword before leaving. That would be when him and vegapunk got to know each other as well, and planned to secretly work against the government from the inside and from the outside as revolutionaries
I always thought that Kuzan showed up at Punk Hazard because he was with some underground affiliations (possibly blackbeard) and he saw Smoker along with Law and Luffy on the presentation that Caesar was doing. I thought that this was what Smoker was referring as well. Also, Drake hasn't spent 2 years on Wano (although I agree that he would be a part of Sword before starting his under cover operation), and Kuzan and Smoker can both be at Sword. If Smoker joined after him and he wasn't told about him or he might even joined after their encounter. I believe that Sengoku founded Sword (he does have a history of sending under cover agents) and that Rosinante could be one of the first member, if not the first member, of Sword. But after Sengoku was retired (not by his choice mind you) he has put someone else on the wheel and he is just giving information or advice on various things. Possible new leaders of Sword? Kuzan (but since he lost he just became an undercover agent) and when he was drafted Fugitora.
So I've watched this video twice now, and I could still see Garp being the one to start the organization before he retired and then leaving Kuzan or Fujitora in control.
I'm of the opinion neither Law nor Kuzan are members of SWORD, and if Law it would have had to be a recent member because of the time frame and power scaling. SWORD is the counterpart to Aegis Zero (Oda crafting Sword and Shield dynamic). The confirmed Leader thus far is X Drake but we don't know if that is the Supreme designation or merely one leadership capacity. Most of the members seem like young and fairly recent marines. This should mean the most powerful member is X Drake. Law never met Sengoku before the end of Dressrosa, and SWORD definitely already existed by then. He'd have to have joined at that moment off screen or sometime after. I do not believe Garp is the founder nor member of SWORD, but aware of the unit given his relationship to Sengoku. Oda has drawn Akainu with a small SWORD tattoo, and Hibari was apparently speaking with a speech pattern similar to Akainu according to translators when they showed us the contingent. It is possible that the founder is Akainu-- with his strict sense of justice and opposition to the WG methods sought to have the Marines own special unit. I believe Akainu established the unit with Sengoku in charge, trusting his expertise and authority. He might've included his daughter in order to toughen her up, judging by the Hiroshima dialect only they use.
I FUCKING LOVE THIS VIDEO SO GODDAMN MUCH OMFG !!! My only thing is that it's kinda sad that you didn't mention Garp or Sengoku as the possible high-leads of SWORD!
I would really enjoy a video on the topic "all we know about SWORD so far"! I normally watch GLR for entertainment alone but this time i could really use some info on a topic i personally find a bit confusing
I'm curious on why GLR doesn't think that Garp could be the leader of sword. Fujitora just joined sword and Kuzan is a Garp fanboy which would make it weird if Garp was under him in Sword. And he kinda has to be story wise since Koby is in sword and we don't have any other connections on how he would get there.
Feels like the theory flows in the 'make sense direction' 😂 Kuzan let Robin go after knowing who she is in the very beginning. Don't think a bloke with such a Conscience would be all in on Black Beards ideals.
i think Garp is the leader of SWORD. and kuzan is a Sword member bcuz kuzan is under in Garps Ship when kuzan still a Rookie in the marines.garp is kuzan mentor. So i think Sword the revolution army and The StrawHat GrandFleet will join Forces in the Future in the Final War. 👍
I saw a VERY GOOD theory the other day. It said "kuzan is the iceberg to 'sink' the blackbeard pirates" meaning, we know blackbeard names his crewmates "titanic captains" what do we know sunk the IRL titanic? An iceberg. Who is a WALKING iceberg practically? Kuzan. I think it's a pretty solid theory, and it would make sense if kuzan is a double agent for sword, because that means that kuzan could be the one to betray the blackbeard pirates and "sink" them.
My thinking is that Sword was set up by Garp and Sengoku back when the later was an admiral, for me this is how Garp planned to change the Marines from with in and for Sengoku it was a way to make change with out the WG knowing after seeing what they were truely like. I see Dolfys brother as the “first gen” of Sword as he was doing just what Drake has been doing ( someone Sengoku also took on and raised ), this is in part why I think Sengoku was one of the leaders since he knew of this operation. I think Garps and Sengokus plan after MF was for Kuzon to become Fleet adirmal and leave him running Sword while they true left the marines but after Kuzon lost they had to rework the plan and that’s why they ending up staying in the “trainer” and inspector” roles with Kuzon sent out to do a Drake while they still lead from with in the marines. Coby being a member is also what leads me to think Garp is one of the leaders since he hand picked him. We can also look back and see Garp was depicted as Kuzons mentor figure back 30 years ago. An Admiral and Hero of the Marines would have both the respected of the people they chose along with the means and power the pull this off with out higher ups or others knowing about it.
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Kuzan: Putting on a sleeping mask to not see unjustice.
Fujitora: "Wait, that was an option?"
Sengoku is probably the best positioned to “run” sword, even tho he probably didn’t found it. He has experience in managing double agents in Rossinante, wouldn’t put infiltrating blackbeards crew past him.
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Yeah, Sengoku is the first person we see managing a pirate double agent (Rocinante). I'm surprised Liam didn't mention him as a possible leader of SWORD, especially since he picked Kuzan as his replacement and could have been handling Drake pre-timeskip (unlike Fujitora).
I think Sengoku created SWORD with Rosinante being part of it or in some earlier iteration of it. And when Sengoku wanted to resign following the war, he planned to give the reigns to SWORD over to Kuzan. But the Elders wanted Sakazuki to be fleet admiral, and that threw a wrench in the plan. So Kuzan attempts to fight Sakazuki, loses, and then "resigns" from the marines but in reality was transitioning to an undercover SWORD role. Which would mean Sengoku is most likely still in charge of SWORD and his relaxed semi-retired attitude is to disguise that.
Yep i would say Sengoku or Garp but Garp is not fit for that role
What is SWORD?
Law as a member of SWORD would be pretty nice ngl. he doesn't seem to be the kind to care about large treasures or being pirate king, but as a member of SWORD he could be looking to pay back Rosinante and maybe even lead a life Rosinante would be proud to see him lead
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even if he is a SWORD or not but judging by the person who is valuable to him is a Marine, no wonder Law still has sympathy for some Marines for example Smoker, even though he is hot-headed but Smoker can also be invited to cooperate with Law such as fighting Vergo and even talking about Law's plans . Smoker also didn't open his mouth about where Law and Luffy were going when Doflamingo came and asked where Law and Luffy were going.
I have a theory that Sengoku is the leader or at least affiliated with sword for many reason already stated in other comments AND that he 'recruited' Law on Dressrosa. considering that the two talked about the OG marine spy Rosinante.
@@werdnet yes, i thought so.
Hm well he already payed him back by defeating doflamingo
The justice to “just ice” joke is one of your best puns till date 🤣
Not even close to one of his best.
@@K4inan but he did it so matter of factly
@@yorkanathandinesh3012 i loved it too 😄
Never thought of that 🤔.
I feel like garp being the leader of sword or at least the founder of it should be explored more. Just seems like a natural progression for his character considering his past experiences with the injustices of the world government and friendships with pirates. great video btw
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Idk, garp is kind of old I feel like the endgame is more about the new generation and nit the old one.
@@amadoucisse8140 idk garp like donuts i feel like coffie is better than water.... you realised we are not talking about endgame right?
There’s no way garp is the leader or founder … 🙄
Feel like sword was a faro idea that he and sengoku started. A part of the marines that could gather info etc without being under the eye of the WG. With sengoku as fleet commander let harp run it and checked in with certain people like Roselinte (can’t spell) but when he stepped down and Akaniu stepped up they went more deep undercover as akaniu wouldntside with their ideals.
The only issue I have about Kuzan being the leader of Sword is the same issue I had about Drake being the leader of Sword: Logistics. It’s very difficult (read: nearly impossible) to command the entire organization and issue orders when you, yourself, are on an infiltration mission.
Almost like they need a supervisor or fleet admiral or something
@@boogie1434 Like a certain semi-retired vice admiral who hates both Sakazuki (for murdering his adoptive grandson) and the Celestial dragons, yet is still in the marines (for some reason) and trained Helmeppo and Koby who both just happen to be in sword? Hmm, I wonder who that could be....
The “just ice” line was brilliant
Honestly, I don't see why either Kuzan or Smoker's SWORD membership means the other can't be a member. They're a secret organization within the Marines that opposes the Marines. I have no problem imagining that not every member knows who every other member is, because If one member is uncovered, then them knowing who every other member is would compromise the entire organization all at once. The leader would surely know the identity of every member, but the people below him would likely have very little info on the rest of the organization due to the necessity that comes from being a secret organization that seeks to sabotage the government from within it's ranks. I swear though, it would be hilarious to me if the leader ends up being Kizaru, and that is a very real possibility given just how little we actually know about him. It would be interesting to see more about him, because right now, I think all we know about him is that he's Sentomaru's uncle and he seems like a bit of an idiot that times. But that second part could easily just be him putting on an act, because there's so little info about him, and his personality feels like it clashes with his job even more than Kuzan did when he was Aokiji. I'm just saying he weird and quite possibly the Admiral we know the least about despite being the second one properly introduced to the story.
Yes. It could even be a Barroque Works situation, in which the members recieve orders from a superior figure, but they may not even know who the leader is. Sword doesn't need that much communication between members to work out.
The only dent to this theory is the fact that Coby and Drake seemed to have a lot of communication when their missions didn't seem to overlap that much.
thank you gave me hope lol i want all the marines that i like to be a part of sword lol and would be upset if only one of them were a part of sword
all i gotta say is Kuzan went after pudding instead of robin.
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@@XXXTentaclez let’s be honest aokiji and van wouldn’t be able to solo the strawhats either way robin never getting captured again
I think Garp is Sword Leader. Makes much more sense that someone can coordinate who is not in secret mission
it’s interesting because we actually haven’t heard anything about Garp lately…
I think the fact that every member of sword or possible members has some affiliation with Garp is too much of a coincidence to overlook. A lot more will happen with Garp and dragon as oda said the series would be about one of them if Luffy didn't exist
I'm loving this arc already. I trust oda to tell a phenomenal story.
He was left with "Just Ice" ... This is the academy award right here 👍
Blackbeard 100% needs Kuzan in order to succeed, as he is the only character we've seen capable of circumventing his entire crew's whole ocean weakness with a single devil fruit.
I suspect BB is very well aware of Kuzan's suspicious motives, but let him in anyway because
1. He'll prove himself useful anyway to keep up his cover
2. Reckless trust in destiny
3. As a "they won't be able to stop me even with knowing my every move" power move
The threat of Kuzan as a part of BB's crew is more valuable to push plans than Kuzan actually helping at all. As long as Kuzan defects late; at a good time, it's likely a massive benefit to BB overall. Especially considering that BB can just keep Kuzan in the dark for many things. If Luffy thought Kuzan would protect BB, even Luffy would -think twice- get scolded by Nami and at least be stalled.
I think Blackbeard looked at it as he can’t fully trust Kuzan but he needs his raw power in order to stay on top not that BB can’t handle shit himself but with the raw power of Kuzan’s devil fruit it would be stupid not to let him join
surcomventing? are you serious? LOL did you at least make an effort to look up the word “circumventing” 💀💀💀
@@sostreight surcomventing sounds like some investment company lol
The peek into knowing bepo is the key to law escaping or winning is INSANE
we have dog-flamingo lets have kai-dog too[day 51]
Edit:Liam i have been doing this for 51 days(every day is a vid) so more, can we pls get kai-dog.
And everyone thanks for the likes so much!
I'm in [day 1]
Whats the day meme
I'd like to see a croco-dog-le. He could do a whole one piece villain dog cosplay series.
Dwang zhi
Dogffy
This all makes me wonder what the hell happened to Moria? Maybe he joined Blackbeard and is just a subordinate, not a Titanic Captain. Or he refused and got killed which seems highly unlikely.
Moria is weak, he Def took an L
highly unlikeable not unlikely
They probably took his fruit Power.
He is def get kil led and his df bein taken awa y. I wonder where Perona is? Is she already meet Moria? I hope not, if she hed meet him in Bb island idk what will happen to her.
I think Garp founded it, Kuzan took over sometime after Ohara, but now Fujitora is the leader of SWORD, at least while Kuzan is with Blackbeard.
The "burning justice" part is fascinating to me because fire is the last thing you think of from an ice man. Almost wonder if there's more to that.
Similar to Sengoku's ironic "angry buddha"?
In Oda we trust.. 🙏🏽
My personal choice for the leader/-s was always sengoku and or garp. Seemed like an obvious choice to me. I mean, sengoku knows the true history and garp hates the world nobles so much he refused becoming an admiral. They are also in the perfect position to recruit others without drawing too much attention to themselves.
When Sword enacts their plan into action it's gonna be so freaking awesome
In the interview with Aoyama, Oda initially says that he isn't sure how many years it will take to complete the series. But, in the following statement, the author confirms that his goal is to end One Piece in around three years. Also, the mangaka already planned the fitting ending to Luffy's journey.
The ending of One Piece was set when Oda started the series long long time ago
Yea I'm honestly not buying the ending in 3 years thing. Hell the my hero author originally said the series would end by this year and there's no way in hell that's happening
@@supremeturtle1186 Oda has been notoriously bad when setting deadlines.
Hell, the series was supposed to last 5 years when he started.
Most mangaka never hit the mark when they say they are ending within a timeframe. Art is hard to quantify. Look at MHA.
He said 12 years ago we were half way done when ace died and the marienford war happen. He said 5 years ago that once wano is done he is 70% complete with one piece
So no. We have at least a good 6 to 7 years left
"Beppo is the only hope of law actually winning this fight..
So he's definitely not winning but" I almost spat out my food
3:14 wait that was such a genius pun, you can't just slip it up so casually
Love how you say that Beppo is the only hope of winning and directly afterwards says that he is definitely not winning 😂
Fighting is also super effective against Dark. So Beppo > Blackbeard
I mean, another possibility: Fujitora and Kuzan are "Co-heads," which is to say they both lead. Each offers unique experiences, and both are in unique situations to go about gathering information. Fujitora is the "acting head," giving out missions and such, while Kuzan pursues the greater goal of keeping a tag on Blackbeard.
Totally agree. Sakazuki being head of Sword feels super unlikely. Extremely super unlikely. I concur
I think it’s pretty insane that no-one has suggested that Garp is the head of SWORD
1. He is still in the marines as a (semi-retired) Vice Admiral even though he hates Sakazuki and the celestial dragons to the point he rejected a promotion as it would mean directly serving the CD. Pretty strange that he still there.
2. He closely trained Koby and Helmeppo, who just so happen to both be in sword (who else would have put Helmeppo in sword unless they trusted them completely)
3. Has never said a bad thing about his son or Luffy and even laughs at Luffy’s antics. Plus, he never tries to actively hunt down Luffy, even when commanded to. A man who went toe-to-tope with a Rodger in his prime could of easily taken down Luffy after Enies Lobby if he wanted to.
4. This could also explain his inaction at Marineford, not stepping in and saving Ace, even though he clearly loved him. Stepping in would have broken his cover and that’s why he was so conflicted, he almost did break after Sakasuki murdered Ace (I’m guessing deep down, he was hoping Luffy was going to pull off the escape).
Random but kind of related… I noticed a somewhat coincidence maybe or maybe not in One Piece… with the Four Emperors… Drake a sword member was keeping tabs on Kaido, Kuzan another possible and most likely sword member is keeping tabs on Blackbeard… Stussy a CP0 agent (CP0 being the anthesis of Sword) was involved in the Black Market and attending many of Big Mom’s tea parties most likely keeping a tab on her… so is there a SWORD member or more likely a CP0 undercover agent keeping tabs on Shanks or most likely among his crew?
At exactly 4:01 Liam says penguin the same way as Benedict cumberbatch 🤣🤣 LOVE IT 🤣🤣
Its funny how Kuzan had the “Burning Justice” and Sakazukis justice is cold and cruel
Sengoku is the most likely option, even if he doesn't lead it anymore. It's fair to assume he would be one of if not the only person that knew Drake was an undercover marine while Sengoku was fleet admiral
A parallel i noticed is how blackbeard recruited a former admiral and luffy recruiting a former warlord as there last members to make them emperor
“Kuzan was left with just-ice”!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤣🤣🤣🤣
Law being a member of sword would make 1 event make sense. If I recall, we never got an explanation as to why law came to marineford. There was absolutely nothing going on there that could be of interest to him. It seems he showed up to only retrieve luffy, which if it wasn't connected to sword, would be a massive coincidence. Keep in mind I'm literally thinking of this now, but garp is probably the leader if law was a member. I'd imagine garp planned for law to use "room" to save ace when he gave the word
This is an interesting thought, I had never thought about why Law was at marineford to begin with. I like the idea of this
I always saw law being in marineford as a show of the will of d doing stuff without thinking he even said he didnt think about it just did it.
@@abysstruthpoet though if you have a cover, you'd need to explain your actions. Not saying the will of d doesn't have anything to do with it
Why are we assuming Sword is a newly-made faction, or that whoever is in charge of it must be someone we've already met? It's not at all crazy to assume Oda is going to introduce new characters connected to this group. He already has, just a few chapters ago.
But given Rosinante's history as a pirate-turned-Marine-turned-undercover-pirate, I think it's more likely that Sword has been around for at least a generation already. And it would be a pretty nice touch if Law were involved with it after all.
I would like that aokiji actually did win in punk hazard and is the real fleet admiral. This would explain how koby managed to remain in the marine and Aka inu's behavior.
I’ve always felt Aokiji did win had Sakazuki on the ground, then Lava guy did Lava thing and took off Ice man’s leg.
ehhh you’re reachinh
11:46 - I love the hat on Arlong saying "Ask me about my dungeon"
I whole heartedly feel Smoker is not a member of sword, him being a Marine who actually strives for a "true" justice while being a part of a group like the Marines that aren't so nice makes more of a narrative I feel like.
Why isn't Garp in this conversation? He's the only marine we know of that was specifically stated to dislike the celestial dragons, he's got a long history of working with or protecting his "enemies" including fighting side by side with Roger and looking after his son, Roger could've trusted him the secrets of the world the same way he trusted him with the life of his son. Speaking of sons, Garp's son is literally the leader of the revolutionary army, and he raised his grandson on an island frequently visited by a Yonko. He also let his grandson get away after that same grandson destroyed one of the 3 most important institutions in the World Gov, Ennies Lobby. We think he might be loyal to the World Gov because of his actions in the Paramount War, but maybe he couldn't afford to lose his rank and undermine the efforts of Sword. Idk but I think there's a lot more to Garp's story than meets the eye.
Desperately need a scene with Law, Koby, and Kuzan all in the same room.
Garp is still the leader in my mind, his connections to Kuzan and hatred for the government are too deep.
Law gave 100 pirate hearts to the government to become a warlord. Impel Down escapees are seen frozen within the walls of Punk Hazard-- the very same island Law made his base of operations. The very same island Kuzan was conveniently on his way to visit. IMO Law and Kuzan worked together to get the hearts and deal with the bodies. And I further believe the event that landed them said hearts was the Rocky Port Incident.
Spot on about O'Hara. That would make a ton of sense if that was the turning point for Kuzan. Well said! Finding out that the justice-focused organization one is a part of, is willing to use genocide to achieve their goals, must be pretty jarring I would think. I'm still upset that Kuzan killed Jaguar D Saul. I feel he could have tried to let him escape.. I guess a giant might have trouble escaping the island inconspicuously tho but still.. the part where Robin is rowing away by herself and doing the "derishishishi," is one of the saddest parts I feel. Have a heart Aokiji! Come on dude. Couldn't be cool and let Saul go? Cold as ice smh
Hehehe
....but he didn't kill Saul
With all of the recent events that have happened in one piece I kind of was under the impression that there would be a lot more content coming from creators but you're the only one really that I've had come up in my notifications much lately. Thank you thank you thank you for that much needed one piece content! Lol
Honestly, Sengoku leading Sword makes significantly more sense when you factor in him being retired. Before doing so, as Fleet Admiral, Sengoku had mountains of work and was center stage for the entire Marine organization. Now, having stepped down, Sengoku is no longer in the spotlight. Moreover, no longer being the Fleet Admiral, Sengoku has more freedom to move about and, to a certain extent, likely under less surveillance/notice from the Elders. Furthermore, Sengoku has been shown to have experience dealing with infiltration operations with Rosinante. Also, do note that Drake, a confirmed member of Sword, was directly involved with the operation with Rosinante, which Sengoku was leading.
Even if you want to make the argument that Sengoku founded Sword and that, upon retirement, passed leadership of it over to Kuzan, I would argue it is still very likely Sengoku is running things in Kuzan's absence. Of all the possible Marines that logically could have set up Sword and had the logistical knowledge to run it smoothly under the World Government's radar, Sengoku is the only one that fits that bill. Garp is the antithesis of subtle, X-Drake is too disconnected from the Marines , Fugitora is too new to the organization (and is too much of a troublemaker), and Kuzan honestly doesn't strike me as the type to formulate this sort of plan. Sengoku, on the other hand, is knowledgeable; extraordinarily cunning and strategic, as Marineford showed; is suggested to have a moral sense of justice, but is also willing to push it as needed; and, among all the previous possible candidates, is the one most removed from the Elders' radar for concern. I would be honestly shocked if Sengoku is not the leader (active or former) or founder of Sword. Just makes far too much sense.
"Kuzan was left with Just Ice." This should not be as funny as it is. I missed the rest of the video because I was laughing so hard. Had to watch again.
Liam that justice -just(ice) double entendre was fire 🔥 🔥🔥
it's possible that kuzan was sent off/went off on his mission to join the Blackbeard pirates before smoker was recruited, even a "we don't speak of those out on mission until the end of that mission" kinda thing
If sword works independent of the main branch marines... then yes, I can definitely see Aokiji as being the leader.
Because I cannot see him working under sakasuki willingly.
That "just ice" wordplay was some of your best
Since BB loves history. Maybe he named Captains of his crew TITANS because he knew something about the origins of the World of ONE PIECE
In my opinion Kuzan is connected with dragon after he left the navy. That could be the reason why the hq of the revelutionary was abandon when the bb pirates raided it. I doubt that Kuzan could take it anymore and he wouldn't accept a navy where Sakazuki is Fleet Admiral. This was actually his only ambition to be Fleet Admiral.
I really believe the leader of Sword is Garp's 2nd in command, Bogard. He's was adamant and supportive of Garp training Coby and Helmeppo.
I kinda of like the idea the Saul could still be alive. Firstly, he’s one of only ten characters to hold the initial D (Luffy, Dragon, Garp, Roger, Ace, Rouge, Blackbeard, Rocks, Law, and Saul himself). Second, we never actually see him die. Sure, we see him get frozen over by Aokiji, but the first time we meet Aokiji we see both Luffy and Robin get frozen over entirely by him and they’re both alive and well. To top it all off, we also know the name of the move Aokiji used to “kill” Saul: Ice Time Capsule. So I believe Jaguar D. Saul may very well have been “killed” by Aokiji in order to protect him from the other marines and potentially given him a chance to escape Ohara or something, so maybe we will see him again.
Nice
As a Kuzan enjoyer who recently cosplayed as him, I was pleased with this watch
somehow i think some people from Marines also interested in what happened during Void century and intersted for what the One Piece truly is, so these people were formed a secret organization inside Marine itself by using spionage to gather infos from the pirates about Void Century and One Piece.. and they formed organization called SWORD
That beep bit aged real well
Might not have been named, but maybe Rosinante was a member of Sword.
With Sengoku back then being the leader, or smth like that.
I definitely would go garp is the leader, I think sword was founded back right after rogars execution. He openly hates the celestial dragons and was once higher rank at the time then aokiji and akainu. I can't remember where I heard it that aokiji joined because garp saved him. Then in a cover story akainu had a small sword tattoo. Finally Colby was taught by garp directly which could be how Colby joined sword so easily.
The justice to just ice joke was good
2000: I can't wait to see shanks in action
2023: I can't wait to see shanks in action
You forgot about Garp.
He hates the tenryuubito system, did not take active part in the Marineford battle, hates Sakazuki for killing Ace, has affiliation/took under his wings Koby and Hermep that we know are part of Sword and who adore Luffy and the Strawhats. Plus Law saves Luffy in Marineford meaning Garp should "owe" something to Law. Given that Law became a Shichibukai during the 2 years skip, Garp would also have had access to Law, so could have invited him into Sword.
Garp would be the perfect candidate to run Sword being the "Hero" marine during Shiki's time. He would have connexions being Vice Admiral, would know Kuzan personnally and most other high ranking Marine Officers he invited into Sword.
I can't remember if it was me dreaming this or not but I remember Garp being the head of Sword Marians working in the background that's why he doesn't want to go higher in command in the normal marines so he can stay under the radar.
Been years since I started watching your videos, never have I ever been disappointment with your perfect sense of humor
3:16 this is the first joke from this channel to make my stomach hurt congratulations
I personally imagine Kizaru just said "Nah you two can have it" and bowed out. He doesn't seem like the type who wants to be fleet admiral
Dragon's secret and his agents are gonna insane .. I never expected that kuzan , vegapunk are going to be in contact with Dragon 🔥✨
Smoker and Kuzan could BOTH be in sword if for some reason, not all sword members know each other's identities. Some kind of deep undercover situation could benefit from that.
I believe Sengoku found SWORD. He was a fleet admiral. Which meant he knows some info in the world government. Of course, he would have to turn a blind eye. But I think he is a righteous person and formed SWORD to secretly fight ciper pol. He also deals with double agents like Rosinante. Additionally, I believe he should've passed the role of the top of SWORD to Kuzan. I believe they did have a strong relationship too as Sengoku recommended Kuzan to be fleet admiral.
0:06 he certainly no joy boy
I just want to know more about SWORD in general, it was only recently introduced to us and we still don't know that much about it, other than reveals for several members within SWORD. I do get the feeling the Marines as a whole don't know about SWORD, given Doll's comments on what Helmeppo is doing in her base in chapter 1061.
Hey dude - random thought since I'm in the Fishman Arc, but you should totally do an analysis on how Hordy Jones and Luffy are pretty much the same character, but one went dark and then other one chose the good pirate life. Love your vids
Thank you for continuing to make fire content a lot of anime reviews or Theories are just putting out bs and repetitive information but every time i see your videos it’s genuine and articulate keep up the good work sir
Bepo would be the regional variant of Beartic. A fighting/ice type
Great call about Koby. I would love to see that moment too. Seeing Koby and Kuzan discuss his choice to join BB Pirates could be quite illuminating I feel. It could at least begin to answer some important questions for us
Probably sword has spy in every (pre-yonko luffy n buggy) yonko. Kuzan in BBeard, Drake in Kaido and perhaps there are spies in Big Mom and Shanks. However a newer member of Shanks Pirates I could think of is Rockstar. Maybe it's about time Oda make the character relevant. Maybe he is part of sword? And Big Mom Pirates has so many ppl it could've been someone that married her kid.
This justice/ just ice line got me bad 😂
Wouldn't it make sense if Garp led SWORD since he's the one who trained Koby and Helmeppo?
Mr. Liam , your dog is like luffy , He does not care what happens , he simply has set sail ... WONDERFUL.
From justice to just ice 🧊
I love when Aokji when to To To Land and said "it's freezing time", and proceeded to freeze Chocola Town and kidnap Pudding
There is no joke, I'm just happy we finally get to see this man after almost a whole decade
8:35 I believe that Kuzan is the one who guards Pudding. This would would make the theory about Kuzan being the man scarred by flame true, as in that Kuzan holds a being that can literally deciphre the poneglyphs.
Crazy theory: dragon used to be a marine, and founded sword before leaving. That would be when him and vegapunk got to know each other as well, and planned to secretly work against the government from the inside and from the outside as revolutionaries
"justice" to "just ice" .... GENIUS! 😂👏🏾
I always liked the idea that Garp was the leader of SWORD
Could we get best haki users, ranked by the fans. Just like you did with devil fruits. It does take a lot of effort, but is very entertaining
I always thought that Kuzan showed up at Punk Hazard because he was with some underground affiliations (possibly blackbeard) and he saw Smoker along with Law and Luffy on the presentation that Caesar was doing. I thought that this was what Smoker was referring as well.
Also, Drake hasn't spent 2 years on Wano (although I agree that he would be a part of Sword before starting his under cover operation), and Kuzan and Smoker can both be at Sword. If Smoker joined after him and he wasn't told about him or he might even joined after their encounter.
I believe that Sengoku founded Sword (he does have a history of sending under cover agents) and that Rosinante could be one of the first member, if not the first member, of Sword.
But after Sengoku was retired (not by his choice mind you) he has put someone else on the wheel and he is just giving information or advice on various things. Possible new leaders of Sword? Kuzan (but since he lost he just became an undercover agent) and when he was drafted Fugitora.
So I've watched this video twice now, and I could still see Garp being the one to start the organization before he retired and then leaving Kuzan or Fujitora in control.
Smoker could be in sword just not high enough to know about the ice man or smoker could have joined since punk hazard
I'm of the opinion neither Law nor Kuzan are members of SWORD, and if Law it would have had to be a recent member because of the time frame and power scaling. SWORD is the counterpart to Aegis Zero (Oda crafting Sword and Shield dynamic). The confirmed Leader thus far is X Drake but we don't know if that is the Supreme designation or merely one leadership capacity. Most of the members seem like young and fairly recent marines. This should mean the most powerful member is X Drake. Law never met Sengoku before the end of Dressrosa, and SWORD definitely already existed by then. He'd have to have joined at that moment off screen or sometime after. I do not believe Garp is the founder nor member of SWORD, but aware of the unit given his relationship to Sengoku. Oda has drawn Akainu with a small SWORD tattoo, and Hibari was apparently speaking with a speech pattern similar to Akainu according to translators when they showed us the contingent. It is possible that the founder is Akainu-- with his strict sense of justice and opposition to the WG methods sought to have the Marines own special unit. I believe Akainu established the unit with Sengoku in charge, trusting his expertise and authority. He might've included his daughter in order to toughen her up, judging by the Hiroshima dialect only they use.
I FUCKING LOVE THIS VIDEO SO GODDAMN MUCH OMFG !!!
My only thing is that it's kinda sad that you didn't mention Garp or Sengoku as the possible high-leads of SWORD!
I would really enjoy a video on the topic "all we know about SWORD so far"!
I normally watch GLR for entertainment alone but this time i could really use some info on a topic i personally find a bit confusing
I'm curious on why GLR doesn't think that Garp could be the leader of sword. Fujitora just joined sword and Kuzan is a Garp fanboy which would make it weird if Garp was under him in Sword. And he kinda has to be story wise since Koby is in sword and we don't have any other connections on how he would get there.
That “just ice” line was cold asf 🥶
Thank you for the video!
8:40 Van Alger drawing it TOP!
Feels like the theory flows in the 'make sense direction' 😂
Kuzan let Robin go after knowing who she is in the very beginning. Don't think a bloke with such a Conscience would be all in on Black Beards ideals.
i think Garp is the leader of SWORD.
and kuzan is a Sword member bcuz kuzan is under in Garps Ship when kuzan still a Rookie in the marines.garp is kuzan mentor. So i think Sword the revolution army and The StrawHat GrandFleet will join Forces in the Future in the Final War. 👍
I saw a VERY GOOD theory the other day. It said "kuzan is the iceberg to 'sink' the blackbeard pirates" meaning, we know blackbeard names his crewmates "titanic captains" what do we know sunk the IRL titanic? An iceberg. Who is a WALKING iceberg practically? Kuzan. I think it's a pretty solid theory, and it would make sense if kuzan is a double agent for sword, because that means that kuzan could be the one to betray the blackbeard pirates and "sink" them.
That just-ice justice pun was amazing and I can’t let that go
My thinking is that Sword was set up by Garp and Sengoku back when the later was an admiral, for me this is how Garp planned to change the Marines from with in and for Sengoku it was a way to make change with out the WG knowing after seeing what they were truely like.
I see Dolfys brother as the “first gen” of Sword as he was doing just what Drake has been doing ( someone Sengoku also took on and raised ), this is in part why I think Sengoku was one of the leaders since he knew of this operation.
I think Garps and Sengokus plan after MF was for Kuzon to become Fleet adirmal and leave him running Sword while they true left the marines but after Kuzon lost they had to rework the plan and that’s why they ending up staying in the “trainer” and inspector” roles with Kuzon sent out to do a Drake while they still lead from with in the marines.
Coby being a member is also what leads me to think Garp is one of the leaders since he hand picked him. We can also look back and see Garp was depicted as Kuzons mentor figure back 30 years ago.
An Admiral and Hero of the Marines would have both the respected of the people they chose along with the means and power the pull this off with out higher ups or others knowing about it.
Knowing KOL almost called this right after chapter 956 is wild
Here in PR there is a saying: he’s more lost than a Penguin in a dessert. Makes the whole Penguin name camel funnier