Definitely a WAY underrated car. Toyota's flagship. While, like Mrs Wizard said, it's not a corner carver, but it is way quicker then most would ever think. That 3.5 v6 is one of the best engines ever made, close to 280hp, this thing is a sleeper at stoplights. It would have been beneficial to show someone sitting in the back seat as it really has limo like rear leg room. Another back seat detail is the seats recline. I bought a '06 to flip - 3 years later we still have it because my wife likes it over her RDX for road trips. Great car, with a fantastic motor... get one while you can, I see good examples like this getting more valuable as the EVs are pushed on us and their real costs and inconvenience become more realized. The % of people trading back their EV for gas speaks volumes.
@jasonyurrrr9994 do u have the vvti rattle i really want to get one of these beautys but the vvti scares me a bit i had a 09 highlander with the same engine had the vvti issue but i think its because of lack of oil changes
@L Pad yes I bet that happened here because a Toyota charcoal canister doesn’t just randomly go bad with only 92,000 miles, I have a 2006 Matrix with 154,000 miles and the charcoal canister is original never replaced. I NEVER do that at gas stations, overfilling a gas tank is bad for them. Ya don’t want liquid in the canister, just vapours
You are totally right, the automatic cut-off on the fuel bowser is there for a reason - and it's a great bit of engineering. Also can't really complain after 18 years of service.
@@Blakecryderman7244 I've got a 2002 Toyota Voltz (JDM version of the Matrix) - and it's canister is still fine too - car only has 160,000km (100,000 miles for you Americans) on it though as it's a family hack these days so doesn't go out of town anymore. It was my wife's car for over a decade, and she usually ran it on the fuel light, it was lucky if it ever got to half a tank - and these days I think I'm the only one who puts fuel in it - so you are probably right!
I have remeber not to do that I read the Manuel but I usually top off not from empty I have to really think because I do not have money for that I have corrola with 37569 miles I'm the otinsl 15:12
I found an '07 Avalon with about 160,000 miles for $6000. It's in great shape, runs good and is SO comfortable! Lots of room, especially in the back seat area. Perfect for the wife and dogs. I don't think the previous owner knew what he had! It had some rodent issues as well, but was easy to fix. Great car, the wife loves it.
I bought my 02 Camry with 77k miles for $4900 November 2012, and it has 171k miles now. 160k for $6000 is a lot. When the market goes normal, a similar car like that will cost 3-4K.
@@haitibwoi6122 2GR engine at that high mileage carries very high risks of leaking oil and coolant. No, it does not worth that much money. A lot of people buy the Toyota quality thing too much.
The melting Gumby look turns me on. Still a little bit boxy. Subtle jab at the wife and dogs in the back. I got it though. For when she drives. Gotcha.
i have a 2005 Toyota Avalon 201,234 miles the car inside and out looks like it has 20,000 miles never had a single issue or repair just change the oil every 3,000 miles and general stuff , tires brakes wiper blades fluid flush and so on , the only money i spent was an upgrade to the front bumper and grill to a 2008 Avalon because i hated the ugly square fog lights and the 2008 made the car look crazy amazing , from 1975 until 2005 i use to buy a brand new car every year and this Avalon just knocks me out on how great of a car it is
I have 2006 Avalon. Looks like there is no issues for a car with 181k miles, but I always nervous when I see videos like this and Avalon appears with so many issues
My 1999 Buick has a lockable pass-through as well. It was always annoying on road trips when I was a kid, because we would usually put the drink cooler in the trunk just on the other side of it and then remember that it needed to be unlocked with the trunk key that was on the keychain in the ignition. Easy enough to take the key off the keychain while driving I suppose, but we never did.
Mrs. Wizard’s interior tours have been entertaining from the beginning but are becoming absolutely professional quality. Look forward to her humorous observations on each review. Thank you Car Wizard for telling us why the different repair adventures are necessary in the first place. Kudos to both of you.
I'm not particularly thrilled with Governments mandating all these different regulation's on cars, but this is one that I can say was helpful. I remember traveling from the US to another country on a different continent (without naming them). As soon as I stepped out of the airport terminal, I could smell and feel the difference. This place was full of a rich mix of Gasoline AND Diesel smells in the air. Those first few hours were UNBEARABLE.
The other thing with the charcoal canister is people over filling their fuel tank. You should fill your fuel tank until the filler clicks off and then hang it up on the pump. I just saw a person the other day there’s clicked off and they just kept clicking and clicking and clicking over filling their tank which dumps raw fuel into the charcoal canister, and will eventually ruin it, so don’t try to overfill your gas tank. When the handle clicks off, hang it up and you’re done.
The TCC light goes on because, on toyotas of this era, a misfire can throw both an emissions code, and cause the TCC module to apply brakes suddenly as a result of the misfire (axles jerk, making the wheel speed sensor freak out). Toyota opted to have the TCC light respond to any check engine light, rather than sort out some codes, but not others.
I did a charcoal canister on a 2005 cadillac cts with independent rear suspension. It was mounted above the diff. had to remove the whole diff to replace it. these things are getting harder to do over time, manufacturers are getting "creative" with the placement. Also I had a 2006 Cadillac STS with push button start. both fobs came with a key that locked the glove box, the "ski hole" behind the rear arm rest, and as an emegency the driver door had a key hole, mainly to open the door when replacing a battery
When I worked as a service advisor at the shop, I saw this on this car and several others. They seem to be putting the charcoal canister in really impossible places to reach them. It is ridiculous.
I had a 05 Avalon XLS also. Bought it at copart with over 230k miles and luckily I didn't have to deal with issues in the "hidden half" of the engine. I know that's a lot of work. I replaced the alternator and that was challenging. But that engine is so good. On the canister subject, overfilling the gas tank overtime causes the charcoal canister to fail. So, with any car even new cars, don't keep topping off the fuel tank after the first click. Good video!
They did the same thing on the 2001 Toyota Avalon as well. One recommendation I've seen is "remove the muffler holders and drop down the muffler a bit, then it can slide out through there." I'm not at all sure that's any easier than "remove the four bolts holding the crossmember in place" though. Especially if you've got a good lift.
All those old seventies Lincoln's had a fuel vapor canister arrangement so if Hoovie was smelling gas like that it was obviously an issue in need of repair not something inherent in the design... Even my 1972 Ford F100 pick up had a fuel vapor canister.... Can you imagine the hundreds of thousands of mid seventies Lincoln owners having garages reeking of gas ?? No way. It was not something that was even remotely common...
With the 2005 Toyota Avalon at the Car Wizard shop, which is replacing the charcoal canister and other components, I just saw a red Hyundai Santa Fe at his shop. I am hoping that the Car Wizard will have a video on that vehicle this Sunday. Thank you very much.
I just had this same service on my '05 Avalon XLS. My mechanic was less than thrilled to repair it as well. Charcoal canister replacement CV boots and Valve cover gaskets set me back a nice 1900.00 but it's worth it to me. At 202,000 miles I really can't complain. It's been an amazing car and I hope to keep it on the road for a long time!
I get an 06 XL near the end of next week, family owned. That thing has been all over the west US and the only major thing that's been done is the spark coils. Grew up in that car, with its nice spacious room on numerous roadtrips. My grandparents purchased it in early 2006 and now it's getting passed down to me from my dad. 144k, pleased to let this thing last until at least 300k! Always loved these cars.
Serenity’s are old tires, my 2005 sc430 has 285,300 miles on it. I absolutely love it and it drives so smooth! I’m leading to believe it’s the highest Milage Lexus sc. that Iv ever seen at least
14:40 I’ve explained that thing to a lot of new 4runner owners over Facebook due to the panic they feel when their dash lights up like a Christmas tree
As much of a pain in the ass this is, this car is fucking bulletproof. I love my 05 Avalon. It's 18 years old, has 180,000+ miles and still feels like it's brand new. Nothing major has broke. Comfiest ride and super quiet but still has a lot of power in it. 2GR FE is one of the best engines ever made. I will simp for this car for the rest of my life. Best car for $5,000 hands down.
I have on 06 and the valve cover gasket and the oil pan both had leaks. Luckily, my son is a mechanic and fixed them. He said both were a royal pain to replace. Good engine, bad design for the repairing most common problems that they have. @@grabby7667
@@foxlake6750 Toyota coiks rarely go bad. There’s no plug wires in these. If you were to replace all 6 coils with OEM, that’d be over $750… not worth it unless they’re bad but definitely plugs
I think the dealer timing is based on "have to remove the intake", but it's actually possible to do it with the intake in place with exactly right tools. (thinner fingers help, too). I did eventually have to take off the intake to replace some bad knock sensors. Replaced that one annoying bolt in the back of the intake with a stud and nut instead, much easier for the next person (who was me).
My '05 Lexus ES330 turned on a bunch of warning lights - it turned out to be a gas cap that wasn't venting properly. I reset the error codes a couple times and they'd come back in a couple days; replaced the gas cap and they've never happened since.
@@MrBlaze256 Explain to me how my father has an 07 Avalon with the. 375000 miles on it. This is. He's doing more work to this when than he's done to his not to mention his looks better
@Chavez Garza That seems to be the case on a lot of cars that have a reputation for being very reliable. Highlander, Avalon, the equivalent Lexus models, Hondas. Great car and fantastic....until you get that $1500 bill for doing a stupid water pump because you have to remove the entire passenger side suspension and unmount the engine to get to it.
We had the Avalon in Australia in the early 2000s and then it got replaced by the Aurion which had a 3.5ltr V6 which got it 0-60 mph in 7 seconds which was pretty quick. Then they did a TRD (Toyota Racing Development ) version putting out 320hp getting it 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.
Owned an 09 Avalon with 265k miles on it. I can attest that things are hard to fix on it BUT things usually never went wrong enough to warrant a fix. In my time with it I only had to replace a water pump, rear wheel hub, and one ignition coil. Transmission did finally die but I assume that was more due to me having bigger wheels stressing the transmission more than anything.
Did you ever have the transmission fluid exchanged? Not just drained and filled, actually exchanged. Also, did you have the transmission diagnosed when it failed? May have just been a transmission solenoid. Seen Camrys (with similar transmission) with way higher miles than that and the transmissions are still going just fine. Just curious
Transmission was just drained and filled, never fully exchanged. The transmission had been slipping for a while so tbh I was expecting it to go at some point, I got 10 years of trouble free life out of it so I wasn’t too sad when it was time to let it go.
@@superm7864 I gotcha. As a mechanic, I know that there is a huge difference between a transmission drain and fill and a fluid exchange. The difference is about 40-50% of the old fluid being replaced or 90-95%, respectively. I will only exchange my fluid from now on after seeing the difference it makes. Toyota transmissions can go an extremely long time if they are maintained properly. Even a lot of unreliable transmissions will go quite a bit farther if the fluid is exchanged every 30k or sooner.
Toyotas *HATE* having their gas tanks overfilled. If the pump shuts off at $58.31 *DONT* do the gzzzunk gzzzzunk gzzzzunk to get it to an even $60.00 That’s how the charcoal canisters get flooded and eventually fail.
I have a 2002 XLS and I’m guilty of rounding to the nearest dollar whenever i get gas. Example, if it stops at $29.35, i got to 30. 171,000 miles yet and my charcoal canister is still holding 😂👍🏽
Arkansas car and it's clean for around here. I'm gonna say a city slicker that has never been out of the city. I'll also guess with the anti mouse stuff it spent most of it's life sitting in a garage.
That top hattie hold it won't open is actually your radio And infotAINment not a hidie hole.. And miss wizard that car if it has the same sound system as the one I have been in. I came within a rather awesome sound system
Some Toyotas really have some strange placements of parts. The 1996-2000 rav4’s (4wd version) - there’s a vsv that fails almost always and is nearly an engine out job. Motor mount has to be removed to do driver side control arm as the trans pan won’t clear it. 2wd you can reach it from underneath the car and control arms are standard procedure.
TBH, it's not just an environmental pollution and smelly discomfort issue, it could potentially become a major safety issue to allow petrol vapours to vent to atmosphere, especially in enclosed spaces.
My 2001 Nissan Sentra needed canister replacements twice in 11 years/60k miles. It was $600 parts and labor each time at the dealer. I had to get it done to pass the e-check to renew my registration.
Correction Mr. Wizard: 1970's cars all had to have a vapor recovery system on them. I have a 1970 Porsche 914 and it has a vapor recovery system with a charcoal canister on it.
Honda Accords and some Acuras used to have them on the pass-through. It also had a lock on the fuel door release. The idea was you got a valet key and a regular key so that way if you took it somewhere and valet parked it, you'd hand the valet the special key and all it did was unlock the car and start the engine but would not allow them into the trunk (to your valuables) or to the gas tank.
Did you know that 1999-2005 Mazda MX-5 fuel filter is hidden on passenger side rear wheel well forward section, behind the plastic fender cover? Yes, hidden all the way in the back, and clogged to the point to starve fuel on full throttle.
I purchased a 2007 Camry XLE two months ago with 61,100 miles, this car was garaged since new, near perfect inside and out. My car has the 4 cylinder, 4 speed automatic, I am totally pleased with this car. I was looking at Avalon's, but everyone I looked at had over 100,000 miles with asking prices between $17,000 to $21,000, which you think wouldn't be bad, but the Avalon's I was looking at were between 2008-2013.
Change the oil every 5,000 miles with full synthetic. The 4-cylinder is easier to maintain compared to the V6, so you should be very happy. Watch out for oil burning, some of the 2007-2009 4-cylinder models had bad piston rings from the factory, and will burn oil. Even if it burns oil, just make sure it never goes low and keep changing it every 5,000 miles or less, don't get rid of it, it's still better than A LOT of other cars on the road. These 4-cylinder Toyotas can go over 300,000 miles if you do basic maintenance! I bet there are some with half a million miles on them.
Great video! Two points. 1. My 08 Corolla Toyota saw fit to change from metal fuel tank to plastic. The line to the charcoal canister is molded ONTO the gas tank. (Must have been the same engineer!) when that tube broke on mine they wanted to put in a whole new gas tank. Nope. Used another larger tube as a sleeve and some JB Weld to fix. 2. Im told that a big cause of charcoal canisters going bad is people topping off their tank (I like even dollar amount🤣!) gas gets sucked in and spoils canister. I’m now satisfied with odd dollar amounts!
The lock is there in order to make sure that if the car is broken into if there are valuables in the trunk you can’t get in easily through the cab and just grab what ever they please.. it’s like that on my LS460 as well
Absolutely love all your videos but was thinking do you think you could do a video on techniques and products that you use to clean up all of those oil spills that seemed to happen lol
Exactly that from an article I read in Car & Driver (I think) decades ago. When cars introduced emergency releases inside the trunk in case someone got locked in, valet keys that only unlocked the doors and ignition but not the trunk (including the trunk release lever which could be locked - remember those?) could be bypassed by reaching in and popping the trunk from inside via the pass through. It was a short-lived thing.
Question for the Wizard I have noticed that pick up trucks seem to have much smaller brake front rotors than my BMW X5, Volvo V-70 R or my VW CC. If a truck carries a heavy load, why don't they have larger diameter rotors?
Each generation of Avalon is literally built like a tank! I bought an 02 XLS off its original owner 2 years ago, for $2800. 140k miles. Mine has the 1MZ v6 which does have a timing belt but I happily had it changed since it was such a great car in the first year i had it. I literally just bought it and started driving it for a year with just oil changes. It just goes and goes and goes, but now i wonder if the charcoal canister is in the same spot as this generation. Hopefully not! 😅
Mine were the original when I bought it at 177,000 miles and super yellow. Toyota wanted over 800 per lens to replace. Just had my mechanic switch them over to led, with Ebay cheap halogen lens. Had to put in a fuse and relay. They work great and I'm not forced into buying way overpriced lights from Toyota. @@ReadyFreddie5523
Dear Car Wizard are there any material regarding reuse of old original textile during headliner restoration? Please advise on this old topic. Best regards. ❤
@mazon has a number of aftermarket charcoal canister assemblies & I scored one for $89.99 plus tax, lot better that what I paid Toyota in 2017. I figured it should have lasted for the rest of my 2002 Avalon's life & for what I paid, it should have...
That's what I was thinking. Last owner must have been hard on the thing. If they didn't care about the engine bay, must not have cared about overfilling the tank either.
At the end of the day, all that check engine light cares about is your catalytic converter and emissions. Otherwise it's nothing to do with engine management.
Thank you Wizard and Mrs. IMHO Avalon is the BUICK killer. They do not make them easy to work on. Would have loved to have had a used Avalon as a young man.
My 2010 sequoia with 165k miles is currently getting a charcoal canister changed out. There are other things that need to be replaced connected to the EVAP. $1944
Weirdly my Lexus GS460 also has a lockable passthrough exactly like this Avalon - guess it's something some Toyota engineer thought was important. Quirks and features, as Doug would say.
@@cornholio329 The old land cruiser ill give you, and the FJ is not bad either. But camrys, corrollas, and tacomas are trash. Head gaskets go bad on all of them usually before 150k. Look it up. That is if they even make it to that mileage, because we all know toyota rusts quicker than any other vehicle ever made. Have a 2005 suburban with 215k, and a 1990 volvo 740 turbo with 256k, which both provide far better ride quality than anything toyota ever produced.
@lotsof torque True but it depends if you maintain them and keep them garage kept and where they are from My friend who I work with just bought an 97 v12 century n just had it imported from Japan
I think that locking door between the rear seats is to prevent someone (i,e, a thief breaking into passenger compartment) from accessing items in the trunk. It's also good for locking away video games when the kids don't listen.
@@LAactor you can pop the seats from the trunk so locking the pass through prevents access from passenger compartment, normally you lock this for valet parking, the valet key cannot open this lock or the trunk lock. you also lock the driver seat trunk release.
You're doing more work to this car with Ninety k then my dad has done to his avalon with three hundred and seventy five thousand Somebody's rough on a ride Or if you travel a lot of miles for work. My dad traveled over 300 miles A-day write around 3 hundhe loves it. He used to drive an accuraintegra only thing he misses about that acura is the gas mileage this thing is like a cloud..
@@MrBlaze256 Ajar it's the difference in a highway miles and a lot of city knives and country knives on this coat right here most of the miles were. Put on ours highway miles.. And I highly doubt you have a metro with four hundred and thirty thousand and a less of course you've done a ls saw lol
I only bring this up because The Car Care Nut empasizes this. Always buy a replacement part from the OEM dealer. Are you sure the E BAY cannister is not a knock off. Just because it comes in a Toyota box and has all the right markings on the cannister can you be sure. Ford had a serious problem with this because the Chinese knock off of there replacement brake pads looked identical in every way to the original Ford product. Yes it may cost 200 dollars more from the dealer but it is the way to go.
The engineer said; "the charcoal canister will never fail, it's a Toyota so we placed it where no one will ever need to access it".
Except if u live in the salt belt
Definitely a WAY underrated car. Toyota's flagship. While, like Mrs Wizard said, it's not a corner carver, but it is way quicker then most would ever think. That 3.5 v6 is one of the best engines ever made, close to 280hp, this thing is a sleeper at stoplights. It would have been beneficial to show someone sitting in the back seat as it really has limo like rear leg room. Another back seat detail is the seats recline. I bought a '06 to flip - 3 years later we still have it because my wife likes it over her RDX for road trips. Great car, with a fantastic motor... get one while you can, I see good examples like this getting more valuable as the EVs are pushed on us and their real costs and inconvenience become more realized. The % of people trading back their EV for gas speaks volumes.
I’ve had my 06 Avalon since 2018 I love my car got it @170k now it’s @303 I love it
@jasonyurrrr9994 do u have the vvti rattle i really want to get one of these beautys but the vvti scares me a bit i had a 09 highlander with the same engine had the vvti issue but i think its because of lack of oil changes
2006 Avalon owner here as a daily w 425k😎✅
When the Avalon came out Car and Drivers article on it was titled "Toyota builds a better Buick" Nuff said.
One thing that destroys charcoal cannisters is overfilling the gas tank. Stop when the first click. Or keep it less than full.
@L Pad yes I bet that happened here because a Toyota charcoal canister doesn’t just randomly go bad with only 92,000 miles, I have a 2006 Matrix with 154,000 miles and the charcoal canister is original never replaced. I NEVER do that at gas stations, overfilling a gas tank is bad for them. Ya don’t want liquid in the canister, just vapours
You are totally right, the automatic cut-off on the fuel bowser is there for a reason - and it's a great bit of engineering. Also can't really complain after 18 years of service.
@@Blakecryderman7244 I've got a 2002 Toyota Voltz (JDM version of the Matrix) - and it's canister is still fine too - car only has 160,000km (100,000 miles for you Americans) on it though as it's a family hack these days so doesn't go out of town anymore. It was my wife's car for over a decade, and she usually ran it on the fuel light, it was lucky if it ever got to half a tank - and these days I think I'm the only one who puts fuel in it - so you are probably right!
I have remeber not to do that I read the Manuel but I usually top off not from empty I have to really think because I do not have money for that I have corrola with 37569 miles I'm the otinsl 15:12
@@halreneau6343 Barely getting started for a Corolla at that mileage.
I found an '07 Avalon with about 160,000 miles for $6000. It's in great shape, runs good and is SO comfortable! Lots of room, especially in the back seat area. Perfect for the wife and dogs. I don't think the previous owner knew what he had! It had some rodent issues as well, but was easy to fix. Great car, the wife loves it.
I bought my 02 Camry with 77k miles for $4900 November 2012, and it has 171k miles now. 160k for $6000 is a lot. When the market goes normal, a similar car like that will cost 3-4K.
@@passion830217 those Avalon 05-11 cost like that no matter the market is
@@haitibwoi6122 2GR engine at that high mileage carries very high risks of leaking oil and coolant. No, it does not worth that much money. A lot of people buy the Toyota quality thing too much.
6k for 160k is crazy even for a Toyota
The melting Gumby look turns me on. Still a little bit boxy. Subtle jab at the wife and dogs in the back. I got it though. For when she drives. Gotcha.
i have a 2005 Toyota Avalon 201,234 miles the car inside and out looks like it has 20,000 miles never had a single issue or repair just change the oil every 3,000 miles and general stuff , tires brakes wiper blades fluid flush and so on , the only money i spent was an upgrade to the front bumper and grill to a 2008 Avalon because i hated the ugly square fog lights and the 2008 made the car look crazy amazing , from 1975 until 2005 i use to buy a brand new car every year and this Avalon just knocks me out on how great of a car it is
I have 2006 Avalon. Looks like there is no issues for a car with 181k miles, but I always nervous when I see videos like this and Avalon appears with so many issues
My 1999 Buick has a lockable pass-through as well. It was always annoying on road trips when I was a kid, because we would usually put the drink cooler in the trunk just on the other side of it and then remember that it needed to be unlocked with the trunk key that was on the keychain in the ignition. Easy enough to take the key off the keychain while driving I suppose, but we never did.
the passthrough lock is for valet parking.
Mrs. Wizard’s interior tours have been entertaining from the beginning but are becoming absolutely professional quality. Look forward to her humorous observations on each review. Thank you Car Wizard for telling us why the different repair adventures are necessary in the first place. Kudos to both of you.
She is a teacher, right? It sounds like she might have been a fight attendant in a past life!
@@jimm9776 She does sound a lot like a flight attendant.😅 Very clear speaking.
I have a 2011 Avalon with 89,000 miles on it. The best vehicle I ever owned 10/10.
Usually they build the car around the heater core, not the evap. Canister!!
Toyotas are amazing but certain models, especially v6 models are not easy to work on at all! Glad people are giving it attention.
Yeah, changing spark plugs in the 4-cylinder Camry is MUCH easier than doing it on the V6 Camry.
V6s are hard to work on. But the good thing is that things rarely go wrong on them.
@@paulhoskins7852 spark plugs are a piece of cake even on the V6 engines
Not on this engine. The rear three require that you replace a million parts. No joke!@@andybub45
I'm not particularly thrilled with Governments mandating all these different regulation's on cars, but this is one that I can say was helpful. I remember traveling from the US to another country on a different continent (without naming them). As soon as I stepped out of the airport terminal, I could smell and feel the difference. This place was full of a rich mix of Gasoline AND Diesel smells in the air. Those first few hours were UNBEARABLE.
We had a 2009 and it was absolutely bullet proof and kinda fast.
The other thing with the charcoal canister is people over filling their fuel tank. You should fill your fuel tank until the filler clicks off and then hang it up on the pump. I just saw a person the other day there’s clicked off and they just kept clicking and clicking and clicking over filling their tank which dumps raw fuel into the charcoal canister, and will eventually ruin it, so don’t try to overfill your gas tank. When the handle clicks off, hang it up and you’re done.
You and me must be one of the 5 percenters that doesn't do this.
The TCC light goes on because, on toyotas of this era, a misfire can throw both an emissions code, and cause the TCC module to apply brakes suddenly as a result of the misfire (axles jerk, making the wheel speed sensor freak out). Toyota opted to have the TCC light respond to any check engine light, rather than sort out some codes, but not others.
I've always liked the styling of the Avalon.
I did a charcoal canister on a 2005 cadillac cts with independent rear suspension. It was mounted above the diff. had to remove the whole diff to replace it. these things are getting harder to do over time, manufacturers are getting "creative" with the placement. Also I had a 2006 Cadillac STS with push button start. both fobs came with a key that locked the glove box, the "ski hole" behind the rear arm rest, and as an emegency the driver door had a key hole, mainly to open the door when replacing a battery
When I worked as a service advisor at the shop, I saw this on this car and several others. They seem to be putting the charcoal canister in really impossible places to reach them. It is ridiculous.
Probably from 1999 Toyota Avalon onwards. I'd bet it makes it 10 minutes easier to build in the factory, or some such thing.
I had a 05 Avalon XLS also. Bought it at copart with over 230k miles and luckily I didn't have to deal with issues in the "hidden half" of the engine. I know that's a lot of work. I replaced the alternator and that was challenging. But that engine is so good. On the canister subject, overfilling the gas tank overtime causes the charcoal canister to fail. So, with any car even new cars, don't keep topping off the fuel tank after the first click. Good video!
How much u paid?
Those 3.5 v6 is a good engine but there is a common oil hose that breaks it's a 2grfe engine
I read that the 2005 Avalon was bad for oil leaks
They did the same thing on the 2001 Toyota Avalon as well. One recommendation I've seen is "remove the muffler holders and drop down the muffler a bit, then it can slide out through there." I'm not at all sure that's any easier than "remove the four bolts holding the crossmember in place" though. Especially if you've got a good lift.
All those old seventies Lincoln's had a fuel vapor canister arrangement so if Hoovie was smelling gas like that it was obviously an issue in need of repair not something inherent in the design...
Even my 1972 Ford F100 pick up had a fuel vapor canister....
Can you imagine the hundreds of thousands of mid seventies Lincoln owners having garages reeking of gas ??
No way.
It was not something that was even remotely common...
With the 2005 Toyota Avalon at the Car Wizard shop, which is replacing the charcoal canister and other components, I just saw a red Hyundai Santa Fe at his shop. I am hoping that the Car Wizard will have a video on that vehicle this Sunday. Thank you very much.
@Jamie Galvan Not sure, yet. The Car Wizard will find out this Sunday.
I just had this same service on my '05 Avalon XLS. My mechanic was less than thrilled to repair it as well. Charcoal canister replacement CV boots and Valve cover gaskets set me back a nice 1900.00 but it's worth it to me. At 202,000 miles I really can't complain. It's been an amazing car and I hope to keep it on the road for a long time!
Do you have the vvti rattle on yours? I recently seen one with a little over 380,000 im sure yours have lots of life left in it
I get an 06 XL near the end of next week, family owned. That thing has been all over the west US and the only major thing that's been done is the spark coils. Grew up in that car, with its nice spacious room on numerous roadtrips. My grandparents purchased it in early 2006 and now it's getting passed down to me from my dad. 144k, pleased to let this thing last until at least 300k! Always loved these cars.
The lovely Mrs. Wizard failed to mention that the rear seats actually RECLINE. And rear seat legroom is limosime-like.
On the LS 430 you gotta remove an axel to get to the charcoal canister, its ridiculous.
@Jamie Galvan I don't think so. This is FWD, whereas is LS 430 is RWD.
@Jamie Galvan no, this like a "frankensteined" camry chassis
Lol!! Is it something that needs replacing all the time or what!!
Re 12:00 Stinky parking lots. I remember going to Disney in the 60's and getting sick on the fumes eminating in the summer sun.
Also check to see if it has the old rubber oil cooler lines in the 2GR. If it blows zero oil pressure immediately. Updated metal.
The Avalon doesn’t have an oil cooler, I think that’s only on SUVs and larger vehicles like the Sienna, RX or Highlander.
WRONG! It does have one. It is located on the side of the valve cover. @@Slenderman63323
Very interesting subject i never knew what the canisters did. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Wizard
Serenity’s are old tires, my 2005 sc430 has 285,300 miles on it. I absolutely love it and it drives so smooth! I’m leading to believe it’s the highest Milage Lexus sc. that Iv ever seen at least
14:40 I’ve explained that thing to a lot of new 4runner owners over Facebook due to the panic they feel when their dash lights up like a Christmas tree
As much of a pain in the ass this is, this car is fucking bulletproof. I love my 05 Avalon. It's 18 years old, has 180,000+ miles and still feels like it's brand new. Nothing major has broke. Comfiest ride and super quiet but still has a lot of power in it. 2GR FE is one of the best engines ever made. I will simp for this car for the rest of my life. Best car for $5,000 hands down.
I read that a 2005 Avalon was known for oil leaks? Any problems with yours? I'm looking at buying one
I have on 06 and the valve cover gasket and the oil pan both had leaks. Luckily, my son is a mechanic and fixed them. He said both were a royal pain to replace. Good engine, bad design for the repairing most common problems that they have. @@grabby7667
Love doing spark plugs and valve cover gaskets on those. Pays 6.5 hours at dealer, takes me 2
Should have done the plugs and the three coils while you are in there, maybe the wires. Save the three coils, in case one goes on the forward bank…..
@@foxlake6750 Toyota coiks rarely go bad. There’s no plug wires in these. If you were to replace all 6 coils with OEM, that’d be over $750… not worth it unless they’re bad but definitely plugs
I think the dealer timing is based on "have to remove the intake", but it's actually possible to do it with the intake in place with exactly right tools. (thinner fingers help, too). I did eventually have to take off the intake to replace some bad knock sensors. Replaced that one annoying bolt in the back of the intake with a stud and nut instead, much easier for the next person (who was me).
My '05 Lexus ES330 turned on a bunch of warning lights - it turned out to be a gas cap that wasn't venting properly. I reset the error codes a couple times and they'd come back in a couple days; replaced the gas cap and they've never happened since.
That Avalon has had a rough 90k miles lol
Someone likes wasting money!
It got the domestic and European treatment lol
Yeah my dad has won with three hundred and seventy thousand miles and it looks far better than this thing
Nah just age.
@@MrBlaze256 Explain to me how my father has an 07 Avalon with the. 375000 miles on it. This is. He's doing more work to this when than he's done to his not to mention his looks better
Charcoal cans were on cars in the 70s.
Flawless bulletproof car that nearly had to have the motor out to change a rocker gasket. Hope you did the back 3 plugs too.
@Chavez Garza That seems to be the case on a lot of cars that have a reputation for being very reliable. Highlander, Avalon, the equivalent Lexus models, Hondas. Great car and fantastic....until you get that $1500 bill for doing a stupid water pump because you have to remove the entire passenger side suspension and unmount the engine to get to it.
We had the Avalon in Australia in the early 2000s and then it got replaced by the Aurion which had a 3.5ltr V6 which got it 0-60 mph in 7 seconds which was pretty quick. Then they did a TRD (Toyota Racing Development ) version putting out 320hp getting it 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.
Owned an 09 Avalon with 265k miles on it. I can attest that things are hard to fix on it BUT things usually never went wrong enough to warrant a fix. In my time with it I only had to replace a water pump, rear wheel hub, and one ignition coil. Transmission did finally die but I assume that was more due to me having bigger wheels stressing the transmission more than anything.
I have the same car but 05. What size wheels did you have?
Ran 20x9s for 10 years on the car
Did you ever have the transmission fluid exchanged? Not just drained and filled, actually exchanged. Also, did you have the transmission diagnosed when it failed? May have just been a transmission solenoid. Seen Camrys (with similar transmission) with way higher miles than that and the transmissions are still going just fine.
Just curious
Transmission was just drained and filled, never fully exchanged. The transmission had been slipping for a while so tbh I was expecting it to go at some point, I got 10 years of trouble free life out of it so I wasn’t too sad when it was time to let it go.
@@superm7864 I gotcha. As a mechanic, I know that there is a huge difference between a transmission drain and fill and a fluid exchange. The difference is about 40-50% of the old fluid being replaced or 90-95%, respectively. I will only exchange my fluid from now on after seeing the difference it makes. Toyota transmissions can go an extremely long time if they are maintained properly. Even a lot of unreliable transmissions will go quite a bit farther if the fluid is exchanged every 30k or sooner.
Toyotas *HATE* having their gas tanks overfilled. If the pump shuts off at $58.31 *DONT* do the gzzzunk gzzzzunk gzzzzunk to get it to an even $60.00
That’s how the charcoal canisters get flooded and eventually fail.
I have a 2002 XLS and I’m guilty of rounding to the nearest dollar whenever i get gas. Example, if it stops at $29.35, i got to 30. 171,000 miles yet and my charcoal canister is still holding 😂👍🏽
An engineer would walk past 3 virgins to go screw a mechanic
Lmao!😂GOOD ONE👍
I CANT WAIT TO USE THAT LINE😄😄😄😄
that car is unbelievably clean underneath for an 05 model, and not even from AZ or CA by the looks of it
Arkansas car and it's clean for around here. I'm gonna say a city slicker that has never been out of the city. I'll also guess with the anti mouse stuff it spent most of it's life sitting in a garage.
One of the most dependable cars out there.
That top hattie hold it won't open is actually your radio And infotAINment not a hidie hole.. And miss wizard that car if it has the same sound system as the one I have been in. I came within a rather awesome sound system
Some Toyotas really have some strange placements of parts. The 1996-2000 rav4’s (4wd version) - there’s a vsv that fails almost always and is nearly an engine out job. Motor mount has to be removed to do driver side control arm as the trans pan won’t clear it. 2wd you can reach it from underneath the car and control arms are standard procedure.
TBH, it's not just an environmental pollution and smelly discomfort issue, it could potentially become a major safety issue to allow petrol vapours to vent to atmosphere, especially in enclosed spaces.
That was some good stuff wiz thanks again 😊
My 2001 Nissan Sentra needed canister replacements twice in 11 years/60k miles. It was $600 parts and labor each time at the dealer. I had to get it done to pass the e-check to renew my registration.
I'm glad I don't live in a place like that. I just cut off my catalytic converter off mine today to sell
Do you top off the tank when filling up? That will destroy the canister.
@@lrich8181 It hasn't in 11 years with my Sonata.
Correction Mr. Wizard: 1970's cars all had to have a vapor recovery system on them. I have a 1970 Porsche 914 and it has a vapor recovery system with a charcoal canister on it.
The lock on the door to the trunk from the inside is odd. I've never seen that before. Thank you for the videos 👍👍
Honda Accords and some Acuras used to have them on the pass-through. It also had a lock on the fuel door release. The idea was you got a valet key and a regular key so that way if you took it somewhere and valet parked it, you'd hand the valet the special key and all it did was unlock the car and start the engine but would not allow them into the trunk (to your valuables) or to the gas tank.
The key to my Avalon unlocks everything. You remove the key and hand the valet the fob. It is keyless ignition.@@SuperCJification
Did you know that 1999-2005 Mazda MX-5 fuel filter is hidden on passenger side rear wheel well forward section, behind the plastic fender cover?
Yes, hidden all the way in the back, and clogged to the point to starve fuel on full throttle.
I got an 06 avalon...
Learning that this car is not fun to work on
@630 Cars the tight space in the engine bay...
But all across the car is a pain in the ass..
Sell it. Toyotas are very unreliable. Especially any built after 2000
Wizard always has “fun” on his mind hahah love the channel wizard been a fan for years.
I don't blame him, she's a babe!!!
Mercedes 2008 s550 has the charcoal canister in tire well right side
I purchased a 2007 Camry XLE two months ago with 61,100 miles, this car was garaged since new, near perfect inside and out. My car has the 4 cylinder, 4 speed automatic, I am totally pleased with this car. I was looking at Avalon's, but everyone I looked at had over 100,000 miles with asking prices between $17,000 to $21,000, which you think wouldn't be bad, but the Avalon's I was looking at were between 2008-2013.
Change the oil every 5,000 miles with full synthetic. The 4-cylinder is easier to maintain compared to the V6, so you should be very happy. Watch out for oil burning, some of the 2007-2009 4-cylinder models had bad piston rings from the factory, and will burn oil. Even if it burns oil, just make sure it never goes low and keep changing it every 5,000 miles or less, don't get rid of it, it's still better than A LOT of other cars on the road. These 4-cylinder Toyotas can go over 300,000 miles if you do basic maintenance! I bet there are some with half a million miles on them.
You overpaid for a 15 year Toyota
We're did he say what he gave for it
@@KennyboyGM Your president sucks.
Your cannister is in the same bs spot
I can't wait for your video on the Phaeton W12!
Great video! Two points.
1. My 08 Corolla Toyota saw fit to change from metal fuel tank to plastic. The line to the charcoal canister is molded ONTO the gas tank. (Must have been the same engineer!) when that tube broke on mine they wanted to put in a whole new gas tank. Nope. Used another larger tube as a sleeve and some JB Weld to fix.
2. Im told that a big cause of charcoal canisters going bad is people topping off their tank (I like even dollar amount🤣!) gas gets sucked in and spoils canister. I’m now satisfied with odd dollar amounts!
The lock is there in order to make sure that if the car is broken into if there are valuables in the trunk you can’t get in easily through the cab and just grab what ever they please.. it’s like that on my LS460 as well
Seems like you'd just hit the trunk release to the left of the steering wheel in that scenario.
@@stevenatwater7298 well I didn’t say it made sense but it may have a trunk release lock in the glove box
My VW Golf derived Seat Leon has it just there.
Next to the coolant tank.
And right next to it is the oil filter. I can just reach in and unscrew it.
Absolutely love all your videos but was thinking do you think you could do a video on techniques and products that you use to clean up all of those oil spills that seemed to happen lol
6:03 Possibly to avoid a valet to enter your trunk, as it might require a different key.
But I admit I also found that strange.
Exactly that from an article I read in Car & Driver (I think) decades ago. When cars introduced emergency releases inside the trunk in case someone got locked in, valet keys that only unlocked the doors and ignition but not the trunk (including the trunk release lever which could be locked - remember those?) could be bypassed by reaching in and popping the trunk from inside via the pass through. It was a short-lived thing.
@@briandeschene8424 glove box is another space you can store things, and was typically lockable.
Nowadays, I do not see that - but I can be mistaken.
Mrs. Wizard keeping the show clean!
My 1988 Lincoln Town Car still has the original charcoal canister at 96,000 miles
Keep up the good videos you are one of the best car TH-camrs
Question for the Wizard
I have noticed that pick up trucks seem to have much smaller brake front rotors than my BMW X5, Volvo V-70 R or my VW CC. If a truck carries a heavy load, why don't they have larger diameter rotors?
Each generation of Avalon is literally built like a tank! I bought an 02 XLS off its original owner 2 years ago, for $2800. 140k miles. Mine has the 1MZ v6 which does have a timing belt but I happily had it changed since it was such a great car in the first year i had it. I literally just bought it and started driving it for a year with just oil changes. It just goes and goes and goes, but now i wonder if the charcoal canister is in the same spot as this generation. Hopefully not! 😅
I hope that the headlights are done for driving safety to see and to be seen and not discounted as just for a restoration job.
The excuse not to restore the headlights just because it's going to be a kids car is insane
@@danakern2440 I couldn't agree more because they are going to need everything on their side to stay safe, day or night.
My avalon headlights a perfectly clear, I think HID too.
Mine were the original when I bought it at 177,000 miles and super yellow. Toyota wanted over 800 per lens to replace. Just had my mechanic switch them over to led, with Ebay cheap halogen lens. Had to put in a fuse and relay. They work great and I'm not forced into buying way overpriced lights from Toyota. @@ReadyFreddie5523
would love to see some WORK done on these cars..seems we see nothing of the repairs. Lets see some work on these cars. Thanks!
Hi wizard thanks for the video ❤❤
Dear Car Wizard are there any material regarding reuse of old original textile during headliner restoration? Please advise on this old topic. Best regards. ❤
My Lexus of similar year es330 has a lock for the pass through too!
@mazon has a number of aftermarket charcoal canister assemblies & I scored one for $89.99 plus tax, lot better that what I paid Toyota in 2017. I figured it should have lasted for the rest of my 2002 Avalon's life & for what I paid, it should have...
beautiful car
Suppose if the owner driver does not overfill the fuel tank, the canister does not ever need replacement
That's what I was thinking. Last owner must have been hard on the thing. If they didn't care about the engine bay, must not have cared about overfilling the tank either.
@@RelicDavvi I myself almost overfilled my fuel tank when the price of petrol went yo-yo a couple of months back
@@yslee1401 lol
At the end of the day, all that check engine light cares about is your catalytic converter and emissions. Otherwise it's nothing to do with engine management.
Thank you Wizard and Mrs. IMHO Avalon is the BUICK killer. They do not make them easy to work on. Would have loved to have had a used Avalon as a young man.
Valve covers are super rare fix on the 2GR
Not the valve cover gaskets. They are a known issue for these engines.
I work at a Toyota dealership, canisters don’t go bad often. Even the vent valves on the canisters aren’t that common.
"Just a kid's car." Wouldn't you want your kid to have adequate headlights? How much could it possibly cost to polish the headlight lenses?
Or buy the supplies and do it yourself.
I'm sure even though the head lights are fogged up they are bright enough at night.
those 3.5 and 3.3 Toyota V6's are so cramped under the hood.
My 2010 sequoia with 165k miles is currently getting a charcoal canister changed out. There are other things that need to be replaced connected to the EVAP. $1944
You did talk about the reclining rear seats
1. How do you know when the charcoal canister is failed? What signs does it show?
Weirdly my Lexus GS460 also has a lockable passthrough exactly like this Avalon - guess it's something some Toyota engineer thought was important. Quirks and features, as Doug would say.
There are a lot of counterfeit OEM parts out there. They look exactly like the genuine stuff, packaging and all, but made of cheaper materials.
The avalon is such a huge car . They couldnt find a better spot for the canister?
I thought those never break, run 1M miles on the original oil, tires and first tank of gas? Very disappointing ;-)
What a joke that people think this right!!! Toyotas are trash boxes usually worth junking before 150k and sometimes even earlier
I got a 94 land cruiser with 500k
A 08 FJ with 455k
N a 01 sienna with 370k
@@cornholio329 The old land cruiser ill give you, and the FJ is not bad either. But camrys, corrollas, and tacomas are trash. Head gaskets go bad on all of them usually before 150k. Look it up. That is if they even make it to that mileage, because we all know toyota rusts quicker than any other vehicle ever made. Have a 2005 suburban with 215k, and a 1990 volvo 740 turbo with 256k, which both provide far better ride quality than anything toyota ever produced.
@lotsof torque
True but it depends if you maintain them and keep them garage kept and where they are from
My friend who I work with just bought an 97 v12 century n just had it imported from Japan
lotsoftorque, Instead of a "trash box"
Toyota what would you recommend?
Yeah, have a look at 2007-12 Altimas. Same thing.
For a minute I thought it ran on coal?
He actually criticizing Toyota for a change? Is this a twilight zone episode?
I think that locking door between the rear seats is to prevent someone (i,e, a thief breaking into passenger compartment) from accessing items in the trunk. It's also good for locking away video games when the kids don't listen.
it's valet lock, the valet key won't open it and the trunk when the valet lock is engaged, so you can't pop the trunk either.
No that's not true, it's opposite since you can pop the seats down from the trunk, don't make up stuff, e.g; "i tHiNk"
@@LAactor you can pop the seats from the trunk so locking the pass through prevents access from passenger compartment, normally you lock this for valet parking, the valet key cannot open this lock or the trunk lock. you also lock the driver seat trunk release.
The seats on these do not fold down.@@LAactor
I wouldn't be surprised that those aint. The tires that came out on that car with only ninety thousand dollars
You're doing more work to this car with Ninety k then my dad has done to his avalon with three hundred and seventy five thousand Somebody's rough on a ride Or if you travel a lot of miles for work. My dad traveled over 300 miles A-day write around 3 hundhe loves it. He used to drive an accuraintegra only thing he misses about that acura is the gas mileage this thing is like a cloud..
Cool flex bro. I bought a geo metro with 430k miles for 400 bucks no leaks got close to 50 mpg
@@MrBlaze256 Ajar it's the difference in a highway miles and a lot of city knives and country knives on this coat right here most of the miles were. Put on ours highway miles.. And I highly doubt you have a metro with four hundred and thirty thousand and a less of course you've done a ls saw lol
@@mikebelcher5111 I did have it. Had it for 6 months sold it. I still see it every now and then
the locking pass through is for valet parking.
I can confirm that the Fresh Cab rodent repellent works! It's good stuff.
I only bring this up because The Car Care Nut empasizes this. Always buy a replacement part from the OEM dealer. Are you sure the E BAY cannister is not a knock off. Just because it comes in a Toyota box and has all the right markings on the cannister can you be sure. Ford had a serious problem with this because the Chinese knock off of there replacement brake pads looked identical in every way to the original Ford product. Yes it may cost 200 dollars more from the dealer but it is the way to go.
Just bought an 2018 XLE Premium with 33K on it. Fabulous car
What happened to the camper bus? I was interested in that project