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- This video discusses the old techniques of jujutsu found in Tenjin Shinyo ryu handbook of 1893.
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I love how you explain the old drawings also!
Professor Jigoro Kano actually created Judo to keep classical Juûjutsu alive and to remind Japanese people of their great martial arts culture; Also he found that the classical Juûjutsu could empower students as a teaching tool.
Professor Jigoro Kano actually wanted the students to learn the classical kata once they had progressed in ranking.
Thank you for bringing more understanding of the beginning of judo. I love how you bring the old videos with modern clips.
Chadi : thanks for all video you make in your channel and the great job you doing about the old martial art and for the traditionnal japanese Ju-jutsu.
I am judoka and with many years in boxing and japanase jujutsu (my style is the aikijutsu Watanabe Ryu) and i have learn a lot things i don't know with your Channel. I work in the big project for modernised traditionnal jujutsu japanase original and without your videos i cannot make this project real.
If you see this message, continue your job, and thanks to make me sur the judo are a Kito Ryu 2.0 (traditionnal jujutsu) 🎉
Chadi as you are a student of Judo history, maybe you can help me. How common was randori in the old jujitsu systems pre-Judo? When took Judo many years ago it was implied that old Jujitsu was mostly waza and kata, The mindset at the time was Judo was for practicing techniques live and jujitsu was done for techniques that could not be done live.
Good question!
It was more common than people think, dojo storming and tournaments were quite common, so being ready was crucial, sparring was done a lot. Kata too, many accounts discuss Kano sparring as a young man and facing difficulties, same for Tanabe during his interview with Maruyama.
Judo is a style/ryu/flow of jujutsu.
@@Chadi Thanks
Kano did NOT remove old koryu techniques from Jujutsu to Judo. In Judo all the waza are still there, Leg locks, wrist locks, neck cranks, strikes and kicks are still part of Judo, they are merely not allowed to be used in competition.
@@ChadiDo you mean randori and similar sparring was not saved through the years but the scrolls and instructions for kata and throw teqniques and positions was so that was still practiced? Also my old Sensei used thas scissorslock on me, it was his special move to scissor your intestines 😂
Awesome job as always! 👏 . Many of todays " high level BJJ / MMA grappling ( minus some transitions ) techniques are Old Judo / Jujutsu . Thank you for bringing this to the public 🙏
Excellent work as per usual @Chadi.
Do you have the link for the PDF of this book?
Thank you.
昔の道着の袖の長さの違いに着目したのは予想外な視点で
それによる技術な違い等の点の解説は非常に興味深く面白い動画だった。
2:18 They are two different techniques on each page. Left page is 拂ヒ腰=払い腰＝はらいごし＝Harai goshi and the right page is 足拂＝足払い＝あしばらい＝ashi barai. I provided the old Japanese and the modern with the English. Though I think you descriptions are close I dont believe they are 100% accurate, it sounds like to me you are describing them as a single technique. Don't take this as a hate comment, this is just some feedback. If you need someone to read the old Japanese please reach out or find a reader and youll be able to provide a better explanation. I am very familiar with this book I have been trying to research the origins of Uchi Mata in various Ryu Ha.
That torso strangle is done a lot in my bjj gym, we call it the rib crusher. Depending on the person who does it, it can really suck. I've never known anyone to have gotten internal injury from it, but I can assume the worst with a large person performing the technique on a smaller person. It also probably helps that we do it in no-gi versus in the gi.
The do jime technique reminds me of the scenes in Goldeneye where Xenia Onatop strangles Bond and the other men she sleeps with. I always thought that scene/technique was a joke but I see now that it actually has some basis in fact.
Chadi, that sucks about the black belt who's using that technique in sparring. It's up to the instructor to regulate dangerous behavior like that. I hope people decide to stop training with that person. People like that don't deserve the privilege to learn and train martial arts. Thanks for all of the great work you are doing on this channel!
8m20s picture on the left shows a very deep jigotai, more similar to the shiko-Dachi (horse stance) used in karate forms. Would be interesting to know why in most old judo books (kodokan judo, mifune book, kimura book) the jigotai stance is depicted as much less deep, Almost upright. And if there would have been a reason for kano to abandon the more traditional stance. I some of the kodokan kata footage by the way they are using a much deeper jigotai although not as deep as the shiko-dachi
Great video, good sir! Sounds like that black belt doing the leg scissor sub is a jerk.
I want to go train with Henry so much.
Como me fascinaria que este canal estuviera doblado al español es un increible y maravilloso canal qie como practicante de Judo me gusta pero el estar leendo no me permite aprovechar del todo el contenido , de alli por lo demas es excelente 👍
is chadi actually an artist? I thought he is going to write a judo book
أنا أمارس الجودو منذ ثلاث سنوات وإلى الآن لا أرى فرقا كبيرا في التصارع مع اللباس أوبدون
لذلك حسب تجربتي الجودو فعال جدا في الدفاع عن النفس أكثر من باقي أنواع المصارعة وأفضل من الجيوجتسو
شكر سيد شادي موضوعك مفيد🌼
Great video! Anyone know of an good sources debating if Do-jime works or not? I am new to this debate. Anyone know if there has ever been a UFC submission via Do-jime?
Iy works specially for the big guys when they squeeze your ribs.
I don't think their has been.
But I think it is stronger in the gi - I imagine a sweaty opponent would just twist sideways a bit.
I think there have been a few BJJ tournament injuries from it though. Source: I have none
@@kanucks9 I have seen one video of a BJJ submission, it was at a lower level tournament.
9m20s, picture on the left shows atypical low kick to the back of the kee, which is executed after tai sabaki ending beside or backwards of the opponent. Kicking to the back of the knee brings ukes head and neck down so that it is easier for tory to apply shimewaza. We used to do hadakajime (rear naked choke) in karate, but this picture looks like tori is doing katahajime
강도관 유도,고센 유도가 탄생부터 현재의 브라질리언 주짓수까지 가드패스,가드패스 막기/피하기/,가드풀기,스윕이 있으며 배웠나요?
I wonder why people even care to differentiate between a reap and a sweep. For me it is simply taking away the support of one leg, so basically the same technique.
Just what I need to enjoy with my morning oats.
What is that Jujutsu book called?
So did kodokan also mark the birth of the Gi? I doubt it. How far back should we look? 🤔 seriously
But that's obvious!
if bjj allows do jime in fight/sparring there will be no more guard, lol.
It’s allowed and can confirm it does suck. It very much can be defended though. Posture, breath, slipping a hand or elbow in etc are all viable defenses that do work
@@badart3204 well when I did at white belt the other dude said it's forbidden
I think some of these drawings depict Kama sutra positions and not combat techniques
The battle in the bedroom is the earliest form of combat.
So. Jigaro was taught techniques, took the techniques that he liked, and rebranded it as his own art. He didn't create a single new technique, just took what he was taught and passed that on. So, why is Jigoro seen as a genius in your eyes and Helio as a scam artist? They both did the same exact process.
That's not an accurate depiction at all in my humble opinion.
He was a professional educator. His major contribution was to create a grading structure and systemise the teaching method on western educational lines so it could be taught in schools.
In Japanese martial arts, they created new names constantly, nearly ever generation sometimes. But somehow it was deceptive or wrong when the Brazilians did it. Different emphasis on technique, training methods and corresponding sport should be more than enough to justify a change in name, in the eyes of any unbiased critic.
According to John Danaher in Mastering Jiujitsu, Kano's key contribution was how he implemented sparring such that these techniques could be practiced with live resistance in a sustainable way, resulting in an evolutionary and refining process of the whole art.
@vids595 Kano created a philosophy based on what he was taught helio and his clan, act like they created what they were taught
At the end of the day who cares