The NSW (Australian state) police actually use Hapkido for their disarming and takedown techniques I think Hapkido is one of the best rounded martial arts that exists currently. We have people from our club that compete in BJJ, Judo, taekwondo, and we've recently had several fighters enter a Karate tournament. One of our members was the state title for the over 50s category. All those people only train moo hak kawn hapkido
As a former Hapkido instructor, I can tell you that in our school, I explained it as such: 30% Judo, 30% TKD, 30% Aikido, and 10% individual family (Master’s) techniques. There wasn’t any full contact, but sparring was done from day one. We competed against several different styles in point fighting and such and did very well. I went into Kickboxing/MMA afterwards and except for the hand techniques that I replaced with boxing, I think it was very beneficial. The kicks, throws, and joint locks are very good. The constant emphasis on rolling and break falls, is exceptional. I went to a Jujitsu school for a while and those guys were very interested in our takedowns and throws. We, at that time, didn’t have a ground game at all, but I learned quickly from them because a lot of techniques that I learned standing, worked well on the ground. In the late 80’s we were still throwing and rolling on wooden or carpeted floors. High throws and long jumping rolls on small two inch mats, so we were definitely used to that type of impact. Most people are definitely not. In general, I think it is a great traditional martial art. If you want to actually fight, I would just do MMA/Kickboxing etc. Thank you for your fair description and highlighting of our art.
'If you want to actually fight . . .' ah ah. If you want to learn to fight A.S.A.P. But you'll only become Robin . . or Nightwing . . . not Batman, if you know what I mean.
@@budisutanto5987 I think I do understand what you are saying: Combat sports, where individuals are mutually agreeing to fight vs tradition\self defense.
Fun fact about Hapkido: The founder is Choi Yong sul who claims to have studied with Daito Ryu Aikijutsu grandmaster Takeda Sōkaku. When he returned to S. Korea he originally used the Japanese term Yawara(another term for Jujutsu) and Dae-do Hapkiyusol the korean term for Daito Ryu Aikijutsu. One of his first students was a Korean Judoka who infused his art with Judo and later students who added korean kicking arts the style became Hapkido of today.
Not gonna lie, Chadi. Those guys in suits are looking like they are having a blast doing those eye catching techniques. Of course, randori and pressure testing is key. But those guys don't look too shabby
I remember when You said reading books on judo improved your judo. I recently began reading Bruce Tegner's judo book and actually started to throw using the advice from the book. Thank you
When I was younger I trained at the Yongin University Hapkido Club. Most of the members were men and women who worked in security/bodyguard roles. Many of them complimented my footwork, (I was traditional Aikikai at the time) but would beat me in sparring with their striking ability. Learing Nishio Ryu closed that gap in ability I belive.
Same thing I have faced and most of them are from Tae Kwon Do background very less idea about the practical use of throwing, joint locking or grappling. But now the situation is changing.
I did Hapkido and Aikijujutsu, and it was good to see things from two different perspectives. Aikijujutsu is very precise and full of little details, and Hapkido was less about the details and more about making it work. In my opinion, a Shodan in each is better than a Nidan in just one.
Love this. Thank you! This idea of commonality of technique in martial arts is not surprising. Jujitsu/judo, Hapkido, Chin Na, all share many techniques and yet have their own flavour/style. Theory of movement is base on there own need at the time. So forms change over time and the individual circumstance .
I got a black belt in Hapkido, thanks for the video, I didn’t even know that much about it’s history. My instructor told me that Hapkido is derived from judo. However it is more focused on self defense scenarios rather than sport randori. At the time Korea was devastated by war, developed this art to cope with close combat. I would say 20% of the techniques do require some sort of wrist lock which is fairly dangerous. Imagine just throwing people with wrist locks during randori 😂
Hapkido is mainly derived from Jujutsu. hapkido founder Choi Yong Sol studied Daito-Ryu Aikijutsu(fun fact Hapki is the korean translation of Aiki). There is also a Judo component as Choi Yong Sol's first sudent was a korean Judoka who added a lot of techniques.
@@teovu5557 You nailed. it. The Korean dislike of Japanese has caused a lot of historical revisionism for Korean martial arts even though you can see the similarity of aiki-jujutsu techniques in Hapkido just like the early TKD forms looked much like Shotokan forms but many Korean martial instructors will fib about this. I have seen it first hand in one of my earlier schools.
@@scottmarlow6018 As a Asian I can tell you Korean historical revisionism has became a meme in the asian community. There was even a docmentary about it where they say it comes from an inferiority complex due to the japanese occupation.
Yeah Chadi Your finnaly did a hapkido video, Im not a big fan of combat hapkido. but i started as a young boy training hapkido for almost 10 years as an adult i train mainly in bjj now but have traind alot of judo.. I love hapkido how ever every school is extremly different. i feal that hapkido lost its edge, some say hapkido is the first real mixed martial art. persionaly with my training hapkido has truly helped my bjj with grip fighting and body machanics. also as i got older i started studying the origins of the arts. books like the closed guard and book of the ninja. and hapkido/judo/bjj all completment each other very well. im very lucky i traind hapkido in boston in the late 80s thru the 90s.. i think hapkido and bjj go well togather and they are from the same source in many ways.. great vid chadi im glad you finnaly talked about one of my fav arts. if it wasnt for hapkido i would have never found bjj.. cheers chardi
Chadi, The best Hapkido reference book is titled Hapkido; History, Philosophy and Technique by Marc Tadeschi. I own this book and it's outstanding regardless what fighting art one practices. One founder of hapkido studied daito ryu in Japan but he called it yawara when teaching in Korea. Later yudo and tae kwan do were mixed with daito ryu, creating the first modern MMA. Ancient Greek Pankratia being first recorded, oldest, MMA of the ancient world.
Thank you for sharing this video, Chadi. I asked for this and I get to watch this video, Chadi. I asked for this video because I'm considering of learning Hapkido. I went to an Aikido class one time few years ago.
Hi Chadi, Great video. It would be great to see you do a video comparing the similarities and differences between Combat Sambo and Kudo. Hopefully that’s something you’d be interested in putting together sometime.
Interesting, I have studied Hapkido, since 1978. I am wondering where the Chinese martial arts connection to Hapkido is? I know the Hapkido practitioner who created Kuk Sool Won (Suh, In Hyuk) supposedly added Chinese martial arts to Hapkido and even heard that Lee, Joo Bang and brother Joo Sang whom were Hapkido practitioners and created Hwarangdo may have added Chinese martial arts, but never heard Chinese martial arts as a root to Hapkido. Choi, Yong Sool brought Daito Ryu Aiki Jujitsu from Japan. In the beginning he taught Judo black belt Seo Bok-Seob, whom is believed to have added elements of Judo, to the development of Hapkido. Then Ji Han-Jae and Kim Moo-Hong are pretty much credited with the Hapkido kicking methods (beyond the rudimentary low line kicks contained within Daito Ryu). I have never heard of Tang Soo Do being a root art of Hapkido. As a matter of fact the Shotokan based Tang Soo Do's methods of being hard and linear would be a contradiction to Hapkido. The kicking of Hapkido is much more diverse & circular than Tang Soo Do or the original Kwans of Tae Kwon Do. If you look at Tae Kyun you can see much more similarities with Hapkido kicking, than Tae Kwon Do or Tang Soo Do. Many in Hapkido say a way to tell if your kicking is of Ji lineage, when you do the low spinning heel sweep, you will rotate on the ball of the foot of your support leg, if the foot & shin of the support leg are in contact with the ground, you're of Kim kicking origin. I have had the pleasure of doing clinics and breaking some bread with Ji, and my teacher Son, Tae Soo is of his lineage. My teacher was also a member of the famed Korean Demo Team, from the late 1970s. I also have trained and competed in Judo since the 90s, and can definitely see influence of Judo, within Hapkido but in a more Jujitsuesque application such as grips & kazushi being often obtained with joint locking/manipulation into the throw/takedowns (such as ippon seio nage, Osoto Gari, Ogoshi, Kata Garuma, etc.). Son, Tae Soo's Hapkido always included a heavy dose of sparring. This included what he called Judo sparring (not quite Judo randori, but Judoesque), a striking only sparring (included low kicks & sweeps), & Hapkido sparring, (which included throws/takedowns, all kicks, hand strikes (not just punches), and Ssireum (Korean wrestling). Hapkido as far as effectiveness depends on who you train with & how you train, more than the art itself. Sadly, Hapkido does have a lot of instructors whom are very focused on the cool looking demo Hapkido. It also has an issue of many people claiming to teach Hapkido are truly Tae Kwon Do or Tang Soo Do people who add a few joint locks, pressure point methods, & takedowns with their root art and call it Hapkido. Hapkido also has a wide range of weapons; knife (including throwing) sword, short (unique version with a looped rope on one end), medium, long sticks, rope/belt, cane, etc. Judo really complimented my Hapkido and Vice versa. Thanks, for more good stuff.
Also, forms (kata/poomsae/hyungs) were not traditionally part of Hapkido and were added after the art's creation. This is actually one of the attractions, that attracted me to the art, when I 1st started.
I love Judo. And I love your channel, Sir. Thanks for sharing your knowledge - these juwels on Judo and related martial arts. Gasho. Bowing towards the Godlyness inside of you.
It's great to find out about the new martial art I have been wondering how to blend judo and moy tie karate and jiu jitsu hapkido seems to be what I have been looking for great vid
I always wanted to train in hapkido but was never close to any school. With a background in TKD/.karate and now Judo. and my aikijujustsu VHS tapes lol. That's the closest i will get. Thanks for video
Thank you very much for your valuable and excellent information. Your channel is an important reference in the world of martial arts, especially judo. I wish you more success. you are no.1
I studied Hapkido for several years, and most of these Judo/Jujutsu techniques had been cut from the curriculum. I'm not sure if this is how it is in Korea still, but in the US it seems Hapkido has been fantasticalized and leans more towards looking like Aikido with strikes. I have a black belt in Hapkido, btw, and yes we did very similar throws to Judo in the "Goshi no Waza" aspect, but I do Judo now and I need a lot of work in non-static hip throwing still. Even then, I never learned Kesa Gatame in Hapkido either.
Hapkido came from Daito-ryu, where I understand there's Yudo instead of Judo. Which anyone wanna watch Hapkido in movie, watch Billy Jack. It's usually available on DVD from Amazon and others. The Grandmaster appeared in the second it seems. Made in early 70's, it's still interesting.
Where I did BJJ, they also taught hapkido and as a blue belt I would tear through the hapkido black belts, so I'm not too convinced of it as an art, not saying it doesn't have value though
Hello, I'm Taekwondo student wanted to add a second martial arts into my arsenal, I has two choices between Judo and Hapkido. Which one you guys recommend?
Shinra Saburo Yoshimitsu, the legendary founder of the Daito Ryu, was from the peninsula. Shinra is the Japanese pronunciation of Shilla, one of the ancient three kingdoms of Korea peninsula. The origin of Daito Ryu, roots very ancient from the inner continent of Asia...so many aspects of Japanese culture came from China through Korea. And martial arts are no exception. Later, from Japanese colonization, Japanese martial arts came back to the peninsula. As Shotokan karate became Tang Soo Do and later taekwondo...and judo became yudo, and Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu became yawara or Daedong Ryu Hapkiyusul...later, cross polinization between taekwondo schools and masters, became Hapkiyukwonsul and finally, Hapkido (and then, many kwans and styles, like Kuk Sul Won, Hwarang Do [the modern version], Hankido, Tukongmoosool, etc, etc...all of them, rooted in Choi Yong Sul, or some others recognize as root Ji Han Jae and his Sin Moo Hapkido). Very complex and dark story about a very complex art. It depends on who you ask.
Thank you for your explanation. I have black belts in karate and Japanese jujutsu, and have studied aikido. I think that Tae Kwon do schools that also teach hapkido, are offering a more balanced martial arts education.
I knew a 1980s era U.S. Army Ranger retired who was high level blackbelt in Hapkido. He became a christian church pastor after military retirement. He sparred my much larger, M.M.A. competitive, brother and my brother told me as soon as he grabbed the Hapkido master all he saw was the ground then the sky and he suffered a broken finger. My brother was dating the man's daughter at the time and my brother's always been involved in competitive fighting, power lifting and law enforcement. He has briefly competed in MMA at pro level as well. So Hapkido isn't bullshido. Also, American Hapkido uses more functional western boxing stance whereas Sin Moo Hapkido of Korea uses more Tae Kwan Do stance. Koreans prefer to strike with feet whereas Americans prefer to strike with hands & grapple.
Kata I don't think it's necessarily useless but there's only so much time in the day. I just don't think forms ever offered as many benefits as actual lives sparring or even technical drilling.
I will say that scenario training is far more important than sparring. If you look at how real scenarios play out on CCTV, an attack starts off as an ambush or a confrontation. This is where you need a martial arts that teaches you how to do de-escalation and being aware of your surroundings. Also, if you find yourself in a situation where someone challenges you to a fight, you most likely have the opportunity to walk away. There's a massive difference between self-defence and sparring type fighting.
Hi Chadi, I just wanted to ask a random question about judo training. Do professional judokas follow a specific workout split or do they train full body in gym sessions ?
I studied a little of Hapkiyoosol. The founder was a boy servant of Takeda Sokaku. He was never directly taught by Takeda, but the only explanation is that he was very observant and learned the art in that fashion. There are different versions of Hapkido. There are even more traditional schools that have much less kicks and is more Daito Ryu. There is a throw in Aikido Called Irimi Nage, which is the closeline throw Segal uses, where the fall is very particular, and I always felt it was very dangerous, and never learned it, although it's practiced frequently. In Hapido though, that throw is a short neck break, it's not really a throw. In other words, Daito Ryu or Hapido employs short circles and it's aim is to maim or kill
This form of sports Hapkido or combat Hapkido, must be a relatively new thing, meaning at least within the last few decades. Not that I have any experience myself, but I've had a few acquaintances over the years, and they have never mentioned it. They used to drill pre-defined motions just like old-school ju-jutsu.
All those joint locks with willing opponents doing somersaults falls in bullshido as aikido if somebody picks our wrist punche them in the face. Then you never see those locks in sparring because they are impossible to pull off in a real combat situation. Striking and throws are legit tho.
Judo is more practical and more effective in getting opponents off their feet, Hapkido and Aikido works if you are experienced, but Judo will definitely get someone off his feet.
Did combat hapkido in Chicago many moons ago. Would highly recommend. Even now when in need of security for a Government Contract those proficient with Hapkido do really well.
I appreciate you addressing the misconception that Aikido and Hapkido are paternally related but instead are siblings or cousins. Unfortunately you didn't address any experience Kano Sensei had with Takeda or Ueshiba. I also have supposed he had none, not taking anything from Daitoryu or Aikido for Judo. Since you have continuously brought up randori/sparring as method of testing the effectiveness of techniques, I wonder if you've heard of Iain Abernathy and his comments on the purpose of karate in non-concensual violence as oposed to sporting and training events which are concensual, evenly matched by size, gender, and skill.
I really want to like Hapkido, but the more flamboyant a martial art, the less effective iI think t is. There are some really good things about it, but it's connection to the fancy TKD kicks and gymnastic style moves is a no go for me. A martial art shouldn't be dependent on your gymnastic ability. They should work for every level at every age. A sensei of mine in both Judo and Aikido in his youth studied TKD and Pekiti Tertia and probably more things than I know about since he was stationed overseas and an Army Ranger. Now it's mostly Judo and Aikido, though occasionally you'll see him throw a really high round kick. LOL Oh, btw, he's almost 70 now.
Yes. Choi brought the foundation from Japan. Ji Han Jae was essential (but not alone) in adding the kicking, cane and breath meditation. He was also primarily responsible for the widespread propagation of the Art via the founding of various organizations. He also taught Most of the other Grandmasters. That doesn't mean all of them or that he did these things alone. He played such a large role though that he is recognized as a founder of Hapkido and he also claims to have coined the name.
You should check out some of the videos of Sin Moo Hapkido to see DJN Ji's style. I have devoted allot of time and effort to learning Hapkido and training it in a no nonsense self defense oriented way. But you are correct, All Hapkido is truly Beautiful whichever emphasis it has; Art, Self Defense or Sport!
Hapkido, Akido etc specialised martial arts, should not be looked at the sports fighting way (ufc) , these arts work well in self defence and police, security (doorman, bodyguard training) specialist military. Although they should be tested, just not in “Rokas way”, because it seems like children playing with expensive equipment (they do not know what it is for.) understand what the martial arts is used for.
You might want to hold off on using the exact phrase "combat hapkido", as there's actually an American-based hapkido style called "Combat Hapkido" that, ironically enough, does not (to my knowledge) do any sparring whatsoever. It's very Japanese jujutsu-like in its curriculum, focusing mostly on joint-locks and a very limited selection of basic throws.
I always find this funny in a demonstration of aikido or hapkido when the attacker HAS TO throw kicks like a complete newbee or the techniques won't work. Mostly from Hapkido when you know that Korea's Tae Kwon Do (world federation) has the most destructive kicks.
Hapkido has kicks , joint locks , throws and hand strikes. Judo derived from Jujitsu and the kicks , strikes and other dangerous techniques were removed from Judo . Judo is a sport . Hapkido is more for selfe defense as far as I am concerned.
Hapkido is the art of Choi Yong-Sul. Choi Dojunim never taught sword, or gun defenses, or any of that. He was a pig farmer when he took on his first student. Choi also did not teach kicks above the waist. Much of what is called "hapkido" were formed by students who left Choi and never learned his full art. So they filled in their gaps in knowledge with things from other arts, gave themselves rank and so on and so on.
Speaking with many Hapkido practitioners from Daegu, I have been told he did teach sword and quite a bit. Look for 2nd generation practitioners and they will often tell a different story. Many people studied with Choi but find his highest rank students and they mostly all have sword from him. This is what I have been told through many interviews.
Before commenting that Taekwondo is better then Hapkido, you should know 1'st, the history, when Hapkido refuse to use the name Taekwondo. And . . the modern history of selected Korea's special forces (which off course all proficient on Taekwondo), received Hapkido training, so they can defeat criminal that have learn Taekwondo. (In Korea, it's safe to say, that all man learn Taekwondo) And recognition from many Taekwondo master , that the foot technique is more or less the same.
I studied Judo for 3 years as a kid (up to green belt). Later in life 1.5 years of Aikido then 20 years of Wing Chun. I have now started studying Hapkido. I am only 2 months in but I see similarities with Aikido, TKD and to some extent wing chun but so far, and I admit my knowledge is limited at the moment, no connection with Judo. The kicks even have the same names in Hapkido as TKD so their connection is obvious. I have so far learnt a blade handed throat strike that to me is identical to Wing Chun's fak sao, an elbow strike identical to gwoy jarn, a defensive parry bearing a striking resemblance to Biu sao and the opening footwork to the nunchuk form is identical to the opening footwork of the Biu Tze form. Maybe I will see more connection with judo later but for now I just don't see it.
Much of the comparisons from the fact that the Chinese characters used for "Aikido" and "Hopkido" are the same, just pronounced differently in each language. Hopkido, when compared to Daito Ryu Aiki Jujutsu appears to have a bit more advanced/greater emphasis on striking. Hopkido was created after Judo came into existence and as much, probably most, of its foundation is in Aiki Jujutsu. So it has a great deal of Judo in it, especially in more of the ground grappling. From what I have seen more Hopkido has ground grappling than Daito Ryu.
I clicked on the video to hear about the differences between the arts, not to listen to the same old bs about sparring for the 1000th time multiple times in the same video. Good luck learning joint lock throws through sparring.
@@niledunn4641 Though Rokas' main goal seems to be making money by click baiting Aikido people with his videos, and placating his new BJJ/MMA fanbase by steering into their confirmation bias.
Hapkido is one of the coolest martial arts out there.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
Agreed.
The NSW (Australian state) police actually use Hapkido for their disarming and takedown techniques
I think Hapkido is one of the best rounded martial arts that exists currently. We have people from our club that compete in BJJ, Judo, taekwondo, and we've recently had several fighters enter a Karate tournament. One of our members was the state title for the over 50s category. All those people only train moo hak kawn hapkido
I spent 11 years as a deputy. Hapkido made arresting/handcuffing so much easier.
As a former Hapkido instructor, I can tell you that in our school, I explained it as such: 30% Judo, 30% TKD, 30% Aikido, and 10% individual family (Master’s) techniques. There wasn’t any full contact, but sparring was done from day one. We competed against several different styles in point fighting and such and did very well. I went into Kickboxing/MMA afterwards and except for the hand techniques that I replaced with boxing, I think it was very beneficial. The kicks, throws, and joint locks are very good. The constant emphasis on rolling and break falls, is exceptional. I went to a Jujitsu school for a while and those guys were very interested in our takedowns and throws. We, at that time, didn’t have a ground game at all, but I learned quickly from them because a lot of techniques that I learned standing, worked well on the ground. In the late 80’s we were still throwing and rolling on wooden or carpeted floors. High throws and long jumping rolls on small two inch mats, so we were definitely used to that type of impact. Most people are definitely not. In general, I think it is a great traditional martial art. If you want to actually fight, I would just do MMA/Kickboxing etc. Thank you for your fair description and highlighting of our art.
Hapkido is the first Traditional MMA.
'If you want to actually fight . . .'
ah ah. If you want to learn to fight A.S.A.P.
But you'll only become Robin . . or Nightwing . . . not Batman, if you know what I mean.
@@budisutanto5987 I think I do understand what you are saying: Combat sports, where individuals are mutually agreeing to fight vs tradition\self defense.
Nice comment dude
Spent a few years training hapkido as a kid. Loved it
Fun fact about Hapkido:
The founder is Choi Yong sul who claims to have studied with Daito Ryu Aikijutsu grandmaster Takeda Sōkaku. When he returned to S. Korea he originally used the Japanese term Yawara(another term for Jujutsu) and Dae-do Hapkiyusol the korean term for Daito Ryu Aikijutsu. One of his first students was a Korean Judoka who infused his art with Judo and later students who added korean kicking arts the style became Hapkido of today.
Not gonna lie, Chadi. Those guys in suits are looking like they are having a blast doing those eye catching techniques. Of course, randori and pressure testing is key. But those guys don't look too shabby
they would look real good as choreographers and stuntmen for a john wick type movie ngl
@@frogman4700 definitely! I was thinking the same thing as well
I remember when You said reading books on judo improved your judo. I recently began reading Bruce Tegner's judo book and actually started to throw using the advice from the book. Thank you
I haven't heard Tegners name in a long time! He has written some good books and his Judo / Jujitsu , is solid👍💮
When I was younger I trained at the Yongin University Hapkido Club. Most of the members were men and women who worked in security/bodyguard roles. Many of them complimented my footwork, (I was traditional Aikikai at the time) but would beat me in sparring with their striking ability. Learing Nishio Ryu closed that gap in ability I belive.
Same thing I have faced and most of them are from Tae Kwon Do background very less idea about the practical use of throwing, joint locking or grappling. But now the situation is changing.
I did Hapkido and Aikijujutsu, and it was good to see things from two different perspectives. Aikijujutsu is very precise and full of little details, and Hapkido was less about the details and more about making it work. In my opinion, a Shodan in each is better than a Nidan in just one.
Love this. Thank you! This idea of commonality of technique in martial arts is not surprising. Jujitsu/judo, Hapkido, Chin Na, all share many techniques and yet have their own flavour/style. Theory of movement is base on there own need at the time. So forms change over time and the individual circumstance
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Chin Na? Mmhhh this is another thing. Maybe you can say shuai chiao, the chinese judo.
I am a Hapkido Practitioner and I love your channel and now this is the video i was waiting for.
I got a black belt in Hapkido, thanks for the video, I didn’t even know that much about it’s history. My instructor told me that Hapkido is derived from judo. However it is more focused on self defense scenarios rather than sport randori. At the time Korea was devastated by war, developed this art to cope with close combat. I would say 20% of the techniques do require some sort of wrist lock which is fairly dangerous. Imagine just throwing people with wrist locks during randori 😂
Hapkido is mainly derived from Jujutsu. hapkido founder Choi Yong Sol studied Daito-Ryu Aikijutsu(fun fact Hapki is the korean translation of Aiki). There is also a Judo component as Choi Yong Sol's first sudent was a korean Judoka who added a lot of techniques.
@@teovu5557 perfect
@@teovu5557 You nailed. it. The Korean dislike of Japanese has caused a lot of historical revisionism for Korean martial arts even though you can see the similarity of aiki-jujutsu techniques in Hapkido just like the early TKD forms looked much like Shotokan forms but many Korean martial instructors will fib about this. I have seen it first hand in one of my earlier schools.
@@scottmarlow6018 As a Asian I can tell you Korean historical revisionism has became a meme in the asian community. There was even a docmentary about it where they say it comes from an inferiority complex due to the japanese occupation.
Yeah Chadi Your finnaly did a hapkido video, Im not a big fan of combat hapkido. but i started as a young boy training hapkido for almost 10 years as an adult i train mainly in bjj now but have traind alot of judo.. I love hapkido how ever every school is extremly different. i feal that hapkido lost its edge, some say hapkido is the first real mixed martial art. persionaly with my training hapkido has truly helped my bjj with grip fighting and body machanics. also as i got older i started studying the origins of the arts. books like the closed guard and book of the ninja. and hapkido/judo/bjj all completment each other very well. im very lucky i traind hapkido in boston in the late 80s thru the 90s.. i think hapkido and bjj go well togather and they are from the same source in many ways.. great vid chadi im glad you finnaly talked about one of my fav arts. if it wasnt for hapkido i would have never found bjj.. cheers chardi
A student of Master Whalen perhaps? I know he taught at the Y for a couple decades... Hapki!
Chadi, The best Hapkido reference book is titled Hapkido; History, Philosophy and Technique by Marc Tadeschi.
I own this book and it's outstanding regardless what fighting art one practices.
One founder of hapkido studied daito ryu in Japan but he called it yawara when teaching in Korea. Later yudo and tae kwan do were mixed with daito ryu, creating the first modern MMA.
Ancient Greek Pankratia being first recorded, oldest, MMA of the ancient world.
Chadi thank you for starting the New Year with gem.
Thank you for sharing this video, Chadi. I asked for this and I get to watch this video, Chadi. I asked for this video because I'm considering of learning Hapkido. I went to an Aikido class one time few years ago.
I don’t know how I never saw this before. Thanks for the candid and balanced analysis.
Hi Chadi,
Great video. It would be great to see you do a video comparing the similarities and differences between Combat Sambo and Kudo.
Hopefully that’s something you’d be interested in putting together sometime.
Interesting, I have studied Hapkido, since 1978. I am wondering where the Chinese martial arts connection to Hapkido is? I know the Hapkido practitioner who created Kuk Sool Won (Suh, In Hyuk) supposedly added Chinese martial arts to Hapkido and even heard that Lee, Joo Bang and brother Joo Sang whom were Hapkido practitioners and created Hwarangdo may have added Chinese martial arts, but never heard Chinese martial arts as a root to Hapkido.
Choi, Yong Sool brought Daito Ryu Aiki Jujitsu from Japan. In the beginning he taught Judo black belt
Seo Bok-Seob, whom is believed to have added elements of Judo, to the development of Hapkido.
Then Ji Han-Jae and Kim Moo-Hong are pretty much credited with the Hapkido kicking methods (beyond the rudimentary low line kicks contained within Daito Ryu). I have never heard of Tang Soo Do being a root art of Hapkido. As a matter of fact the Shotokan based Tang Soo Do's methods of being hard and linear would be a contradiction to Hapkido. The kicking of Hapkido is much more diverse & circular than Tang Soo Do or the original Kwans of Tae Kwon Do. If you look at Tae Kyun you can see much more similarities with Hapkido kicking, than Tae Kwon Do or Tang Soo Do. Many in Hapkido say a way to tell if your kicking is of Ji lineage, when you do the low spinning heel sweep, you will rotate on the ball of the foot of your support leg, if the foot & shin of the support leg are in contact with the ground, you're of Kim kicking origin.
I have had the pleasure of doing clinics and breaking some bread with Ji, and my teacher Son, Tae Soo is of his lineage. My teacher was also a member of the famed Korean Demo Team, from the late 1970s.
I also have trained and competed in Judo since the 90s, and can definitely see influence of Judo, within Hapkido but in a more Jujitsuesque application such as grips & kazushi being often obtained with joint locking/manipulation into the throw/takedowns (such as ippon seio nage, Osoto Gari, Ogoshi, Kata Garuma, etc.).
Son, Tae Soo's Hapkido always included a heavy dose of sparring. This included what he called Judo sparring (not quite Judo randori, but Judoesque), a striking only sparring (included low kicks & sweeps), & Hapkido sparring, (which included throws/takedowns, all kicks, hand strikes (not just punches), and Ssireum (Korean wrestling).
Hapkido as far as effectiveness depends on who you train with & how you train, more than the art itself. Sadly, Hapkido does have a lot of instructors whom are very focused on the cool looking demo Hapkido. It also has an issue of many people claiming to teach Hapkido are truly Tae Kwon Do or Tang Soo Do people who add a few joint locks, pressure point methods, & takedowns with their root art and call it Hapkido.
Hapkido also has a wide range of weapons; knife (including throwing) sword, short (unique version with a looped rope on one end), medium, long sticks, rope/belt, cane, etc.
Judo really complimented my Hapkido and Vice versa.
Thanks, for more good stuff.
Also, forms (kata/poomsae/hyungs) were not traditionally part of Hapkido and were added after the art's creation. This is actually one of the attractions, that attracted me to the art, when I 1st started.
Very well said and great analysis 🎉🎉🎉
I love Judo. And I love your channel, Sir.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge - these juwels on Judo and related martial arts.
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In South Korea in the late 80s Hapkido had fighting competitions, it is very different from nowadays, it is only kata and choreography.
Make a video about ufc fighter Karo Parysian...he was using a lot of judo techniques in his fights.
Here it is :)
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It's great to find out about the new martial art I have been wondering how to blend judo and moy tie karate and jiu jitsu hapkido seems to be what I have been looking for great vid
Have you started a class? How did it go?
I always wanted to train in hapkido but was never close to any school. With a background in TKD/.karate and now Judo. and my aikijujustsu VHS tapes lol. That's the closest i will get. Thanks for video
Thank you very much for your valuable and excellent information. Your channel is an important reference in the world of martial arts, especially judo. I wish you more success. you are no.1
Thank for posting this it was needed I pray you give more details even Grandmaster Han style has well
Fun fact hapkido was popularized by the movie billy Jack.
With Grandmaster Bong Soo Han(rip) as the stunt double for the main actor.
Where can I find that instrumental that’s playing in the background? I love it man!
I studied Hapkido for several years, and most of these Judo/Jujutsu techniques had been cut from the curriculum. I'm not sure if this is how it is in Korea still, but in the US it seems Hapkido has been fantasticalized and leans more towards looking like Aikido with strikes. I have a black belt in Hapkido, btw, and yes we did very similar throws to Judo in the "Goshi no Waza" aspect, but I do Judo now and I need a lot of work in non-static hip throwing still. Even then, I never learned Kesa Gatame in Hapkido either.
Hapkido came from Daito-ryu, where I understand there's Yudo instead of Judo.
Which anyone wanna watch Hapkido in movie, watch Billy Jack. It's usually available on DVD from Amazon and others. The Grandmaster appeared in the second it seems. Made in early 70's, it's still interesting.
Where can I see actual Hapkido randori? .. all I saw here were demonstrations.
About the 4:40 mark.
Where I did BJJ, they also taught hapkido and as a blue belt I would tear through the hapkido black belts, so I'm not too convinced of it as an art, not saying it doesn't have value though
It seems they are used to their opponents do backflips when you grab their wrists.
Practiced both, enjoy them both, another great video
Excellent video & Thanks .
Thank you 🙇🏻♂️
Hello, I'm Taekwondo student wanted to add a second martial arts into my arsenal, I has two choices between Judo and Hapkido. Which one you guys recommend?
Judo
Shinra Saburo Yoshimitsu, the legendary founder of the Daito Ryu, was from the peninsula. Shinra is the Japanese pronunciation of Shilla, one of the ancient three kingdoms of Korea peninsula. The origin of Daito Ryu, roots very ancient from the inner continent of Asia...so many aspects of Japanese culture came from China through Korea. And martial arts are no exception. Later, from Japanese colonization, Japanese martial arts came back to the peninsula. As Shotokan karate became Tang Soo Do and later taekwondo...and judo became yudo, and Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu became yawara or Daedong Ryu Hapkiyusul...later, cross polinization between taekwondo schools and masters, became Hapkiyukwonsul and finally, Hapkido (and then, many kwans and styles, like Kuk Sul Won, Hwarang Do [the modern version], Hankido, Tukongmoosool, etc, etc...all of them, rooted in Choi Yong Sul, or some others recognize as root Ji Han Jae and his Sin Moo Hapkido). Very complex and dark story about a very complex art. It depends on who you ask.
Thank you for your explanation. I have black belts in karate and Japanese jujutsu, and have studied aikido. I think that Tae Kwon do schools that also teach hapkido, are offering a more balanced martial arts education.
awesome vid Chadi i thought you really did your research on this Love hapkido (also Mauy Thai)
What about Yong Moo do? Is it derived from hapkido or jujutsu?
What do you think of Muay thai and Judo combination for self defense?
I knew a 1980s era U.S. Army Ranger retired who was high level blackbelt in Hapkido. He became a christian church pastor after military retirement. He sparred my much larger, M.M.A. competitive, brother and my brother told me as soon as he grabbed the Hapkido master all he saw was the ground then the sky and he suffered a broken finger.
My brother was dating the man's daughter at the time and my brother's always been involved in competitive fighting, power lifting and law enforcement. He has briefly competed in MMA at pro level as well.
So Hapkido isn't bullshido. Also, American Hapkido uses more functional western boxing stance whereas Sin Moo Hapkido of Korea uses more Tae Kwan Do stance. Koreans prefer to strike with feet whereas Americans prefer to strike with hands & grapple.
Can you make video on Aikido vs Hapkido?
Kata I don't think it's necessarily useless but there's only so much time in the day. I just don't think forms ever offered as many benefits as actual lives sparring or even technical drilling.
I will say that scenario training is far more important than sparring. If you look at how real scenarios play out on CCTV, an attack starts off as an ambush or a confrontation. This is where you need a martial arts that teaches you how to do de-escalation and being aware of your surroundings. Also, if you find yourself in a situation where someone challenges you to a fight, you most likely have the opportunity to walk away. There's a massive difference between self-defence and sparring type fighting.
Hi Chadi, I just wanted to ask a random question about judo training. Do professional judokas follow a specific workout split or do they train full body in gym sessions ?
If you allow me . .
Both.
You better ask, what's the purpose of those 2 training.
Its more daito Ryu than aikido. The creator of hapkido, aikido and tempo live in the same time. Some people day there freinds and lettering with them
can you make vovinam vs judo?
I studied a little of Hapkiyoosol.
The founder was a boy servant of Takeda Sokaku. He was never directly taught by Takeda, but the only explanation is that he was very observant and learned the art in that fashion.
There are different versions of Hapkido. There are even more traditional schools that have much less kicks and is more Daito Ryu.
There is a throw in Aikido Called Irimi Nage, which is the closeline throw Segal uses, where the fall is very particular, and I always felt it was very dangerous, and never learned it, although it's practiced frequently.
In Hapido though, that throw is a short neck break, it's not really a throw.
In other words, Daito Ryu or Hapido employs short circles and it's aim is to maim or kill
So if i am a TKD black belt and also a judo practitioner i would be able to do Hapkido??
No. Hapkido = tkd + aikido
It seems adding Hapkido or Kajukenbo would help compliment your Judo?
100% correct, my son competes national and international in judo, great compliment to his tool box
I like Hapkido I did it for a while when I was teenagers. Tang Soon Do and what ever the Korean Kenjutsu is called.
Korean Kendo/Kenjustu is Kumdo.
This form of sports Hapkido or combat Hapkido, must be a relatively new thing, meaning at least within the last few decades. Not that I have any experience myself, but I've had a few acquaintances over the years, and they have never mentioned it. They used to drill pre-defined motions just like old-school ju-jutsu.
All those joint locks with willing opponents doing somersaults falls in bullshido as aikido if somebody picks our wrist punche them in the face. Then you never see those locks in sparring because they are impossible to pull off in a real combat situation.
Striking and throws are legit tho.
Hapikido also having techniques from Tang Soo Do which envolve more standup striking and sweeping.
Judo is more practical and more effective in getting opponents off their feet, Hapkido and Aikido works if you are experienced, but Judo will definitely get someone off his feet.
What? No Gongkwon yusul here? Come on...
Did combat hapkido in Chicago many moons ago. Would highly recommend. Even now when in need of security for a Government Contract those proficient with Hapkido do really well.
What's deference hapkido and aikido
i agree with you sir! sparring is key!!! i had a ninjtsu guy trying to hit pressure points and i just heel hook him! lol never saw him again!
I appreciate you addressing the misconception that Aikido and Hapkido are paternally related but instead are siblings or cousins.
Unfortunately you didn't address any experience Kano Sensei had with Takeda or Ueshiba. I also have supposed he had none, not taking anything from Daitoryu or Aikido for Judo.
Since you have continuously brought up randori/sparring as method of testing the effectiveness of techniques, I wonder if you've heard of Iain Abernathy and his comments on the purpose of karate in non-concensual violence as oposed to sporting and training events which are concensual, evenly matched by size, gender, and skill.
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I really want to like Hapkido, but the more flamboyant a martial art, the less effective iI think t is. There are some really good things about it, but it's connection to the fancy TKD kicks and gymnastic style moves is a no go for me. A martial art shouldn't be dependent on your gymnastic ability. They should work for every level at every age. A sensei of mine in both Judo and Aikido in his youth studied TKD and Pekiti Tertia and probably more things than I know about since he was stationed overseas and an Army Ranger. Now it's mostly Judo and Aikido, though occasionally you'll see him throw a really high round kick. LOL Oh, btw, he's almost 70 now.
Teach kids hapkido judo techniques i high level martial arts
Wich Is the real hapkido? Hapkido Jin Hae Hae or Hapkido Choi Yong Sool?????????
Yes. Choi brought the foundation from Japan. Ji Han Jae was essential (but not alone) in adding the kicking, cane and breath meditation. He was also primarily responsible for the widespread propagation of the Art via the founding of various organizations. He also taught Most of the other Grandmasters. That doesn't mean all of them or that he did these things alone. He played such a large role though that he is recognized as a founder of Hapkido and he also claims to have coined the name.
@@jamesoneill8901 Hapkido = amazing and beautyfull martial art, tnx good men 👍👍👍👍👍
You should check out some of the videos of Sin Moo Hapkido to see DJN Ji's style. I have devoted allot of time and effort to learning Hapkido and training it in a no nonsense self defense oriented way. But you are correct, All Hapkido is truly Beautiful whichever emphasis it has; Art, Self Defense or Sport!
@@jamesoneill8901 I Will, tnx a lot 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Having spoken to Hapkido practitioners from Daegu in Korea, which has earliest forms of Hapkido , I have been told Cho did teach breathing and sword.
Hapkido, Akido etc specialised martial arts, should not be looked at the sports fighting way (ufc) , these arts work well in self defence and police, security (doorman, bodyguard training) specialist military. Although they should be tested, just not in “Rokas way”, because it seems like children playing with expensive equipment (they do not know what it is for.) understand what the martial arts is used for.
Rokas way ...😂 Jajaja.....rokas learn the Bad way .....jaja....
Are Aikido (合気道)and Hapkido different? It seems that both throws are really similar.
Someone didn't even watch the video
You might want to hold off on using the exact phrase "combat hapkido", as there's actually an American-based hapkido style called "Combat Hapkido" that, ironically enough, does not (to my knowledge) do any sparring whatsoever. It's very Japanese jujutsu-like in its curriculum, focusing mostly on joint-locks and a very limited selection of basic throws.
All of this obsession with pressure testing is funny to me, back in the 80's we just got into street fights and found out if something worked
Complete nonsense,you cannot train using streetfights due to the variability and risk of fatal consequences.
@@scarred10 back then I didn't have a choice about it was either turn to fight or continue to get beat up by the neighborhood thugs.
I always find this funny in a demonstration of aikido or hapkido when the attacker HAS TO throw kicks like a complete newbee or the techniques won't work. Mostly from Hapkido when you know that Korea's Tae Kwon Do (world federation) has the most destructive kicks.
I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IN HAPKIDO
I always saw Hapkido and Jujitsu as closer than Judo.
Hapkido has kicks , joint locks , throws and hand strikes. Judo derived from Jujitsu and the kicks , strikes and other dangerous techniques were removed from Judo . Judo is a sport . Hapkido is more for selfe defense as far as I am concerned.
Hapkido is the art of Choi Yong-Sul. Choi Dojunim never taught sword, or gun defenses, or any of that. He was a pig farmer when he took on his first student. Choi also did not teach kicks above the waist.
Much of what is called "hapkido" were formed by students who left Choi and never learned his full art. So they filled in their gaps in knowledge with things from other arts, gave themselves rank and so on and so on.
Hapkido is the art of Ji Han Jae. Choi never called it Hapkido.
Speaking with many Hapkido practitioners from Daegu, I have been told he did teach sword and quite a bit. Look for 2nd generation practitioners and they will often tell a different story. Many people studied with Choi but find his highest rank students and they mostly all have sword from him. This is what I have been told through many interviews.
Before commenting that Taekwondo is better then Hapkido,
you should know 1'st, the history, when Hapkido refuse to use the name Taekwondo.
And . .
the modern history of selected Korea's special forces (which off course all proficient on Taekwondo),
received Hapkido training,
so they can defeat criminal that have learn Taekwondo. (In Korea, it's safe to say, that all man learn Taekwondo)
And recognition from many Taekwondo master , that the foot technique is more or less the same.
Does this guy even have any sparring videos? Sure do a lot of talking tho
I find the rule of hapkido❤
The olympic games kill more and more of the judo soul every edition.
hapkido = christina applegate
I studied Judo for 3 years as a kid (up to green belt). Later in life 1.5 years of Aikido then 20 years of Wing Chun. I have now started studying Hapkido. I am only 2 months in but I see similarities with Aikido, TKD and to some extent wing chun but so far, and I admit my knowledge is limited at the moment, no connection with Judo. The kicks even have the same names in Hapkido as TKD so their connection is obvious. I have so far learnt a blade handed throat strike that to me is identical to Wing Chun's fak sao, an elbow strike identical to gwoy jarn, a defensive parry bearing a striking resemblance to Biu sao and the opening footwork to the nunchuk form is identical to the opening footwork of the Biu Tze form. Maybe I will see more connection with judo later but for now I just don't see it.
one thing I hope they never ever teach that gun disarm move
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El hapkido tiene más parecido al aikido que al Judo
Much of the comparisons from the fact that the Chinese characters used for "Aikido" and "Hopkido" are the same, just pronounced differently in each language.
Hopkido, when compared to Daito Ryu Aiki Jujutsu appears to have a bit more advanced/greater emphasis on striking.
Hopkido was created after Judo came into existence and as much, probably most, of its foundation is in Aiki Jujutsu. So it has a great deal of Judo in it, especially in more of the ground grappling. From what I have seen more Hopkido has ground grappling than Daito Ryu.
I clicked on the video to hear about the differences between the arts, not to listen to the same old bs about sparring for the 1000th time multiple times in the same video. Good luck learning joint lock throws through sparring.
And I must be honest I don't trust anything Rokas from Martial Arts Journey has to say about Aikido, or training in any Martial Art in general.
Rokas is honest about his experiences, and you have to respect his honesty. Aikido is a good martial art but it's lost why it's effective
Rokas is totally right and honest.
Everyone has their own opinions, but my focus isn't on the Rokas-pokas. I focus on my own training and constant improvement.
@@marty6522 as do all of us mate me incuded but I respect rokas for expanding his knowledge in martial arts as that's the main goal
@@niledunn4641 Though Rokas' main goal seems to be making money by click baiting Aikido people with his videos, and placating his new BJJ/MMA fanbase by steering into their confirmation bias.