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- This video details some of the throws in Kodokan Judo, and trace their roots back to their Jujutsu ancestry, and discuss the importance of Kata (forms)
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Excellent video, Chadi. I, myself, study a form of Traditional Ju-Jitsu. In regards to the Otoshi vs Seoi Nage, there is a term called Koshi Nage, which is the generic hip throw and can be applied to any of the various hip throws like O Goshi and Ippon Seoi Nage. The main point is they are using the hip as the leverage, as your were describing. Otoshi, to me, is to drop. Those are the main differences. Thanks for this video, I've learned a lot already.
Thank you for listening
oss, greetings from Indonesia. I'm currently a black belt/shodan I in jujitsu kito ryu Japan. thanks
The way the kodokan describes it is if you lift the uke's hips before throwing them down then it's a nage. If you pull them down then it's otoshi
Excellent
I have not seen a video comparing multiple Koryu throws with Judo throws.
Ahh Technology!
If you're not already subscribed and familiar chadi's channel you should get on board. It's a great channel with great history, comparisons, and technique breakdowns.
We should learn the roots, technology is a great tool
Love this, thank you for making it.
Hi Chadi!!! Wondering if you have ever heard of or have any information on Sensei Segotoshi Morita. He taught judo/jiujitsu in Cuba in the 50's and 60's etc. I believe he was teaching a combination of these two styles. Thank you.
I'll look him up
@@Chadi thanks brother. Love your channel been going down the Judo/Jiujitsi rabbit hole since 1981 My dad study with Morita in Cuba he's 87 now. Was awarded a bb in 68 so obviously he put me in Judo as a child. When I come home to show him what I had learned it was diff than what he learned although very similar alot more joint manipulations while standing etc. Pretty violent stuff. I come to find out it was a blend of these two styles. I found one of Moritas younger students in Drysdale gym that still teaches it and had it recognized AJJF. I will post the logo so u can see. Very cool stuff thanks for sharing the videos by far the most truthful things I've seen on the web. OSS!!!
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Good video man, also you got to start blocking people who keep leaving spam on your comment section.
Thank you man
Can we do a video on the best restraining techniques, like alternatives to chokes , like more neck cranks , telephone arm locks etc?))
I'm currently enjoying Mike Swain's Judo instructionals, still looking for more CACC & Dumog instructionals, not too many around sadly. Perhaps u can help raise the awareness;))
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Wow there was actually someone that hit "thumbs down/ dislike " on this video. Well not everyone can be intelligent i guess 🤷 lol
Hahaha they are free to like or dislike
Great video, with great details.
Thank you i truly appreciate it
Nice video. I teach all of these techniques. In the seoi otoshi dropping down to both knees requires exceptional skill as opposed to one knee (which requires a skill of its own). This is important to note the difference because dropping down to two knees on a hard pavement with a heavy opponent ( no weight classes in self defense) can actually damage the knees as opposed when it is done on the mat. Hence the one knee is more of 'self defence' especially from the aspect of regaining control over multiple opponents being able to stand up again in one continues movement, although dropping to two knees does look spectacular and is in my view closer to a sacrifice throw.
The sacrifice throws are just that 'sacrifice' one's position to gain some advantage again in defence mode not sport. All movements require at least a minimum level of creating a dynamic motion when from a static position otherwise they don't work. The more the dynamic motion the more ' Aiki' . I remember the late Takagi 's Sensei young son performing variations of uke otoshi in Aiki 'do' mode dropping an adult of course in dynamic mode. Also one can add the outer spin in a tenkan mode.
Agreed
Excellent historical information, thank you. 🥋🙏
Great video I really enjoyed it
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Chadi brother plz do vid on mukna ancient wrestling style and malakhro ancient wrestling style both originated in South Asia it's our traditional sport plz do vid
I'll add it to the list
@@Chadi thank you Bhai ji Jai Shri ram thanks for inspiring us to never give up 🤼💪
Chadi you have amazing videos!
Thank you Andrei
Excellent video. Thanks for the upload. I was only wondering why you keep saying Ten S hin and not Ten J in Shinyo ryu. I believe both exist as ryu but are different. Still, I am not 100% sure if this is true because in the martial arts literature both names are used indifferently. In any case Kano shihan studied the Ten J in Shinyo ryu.
Good comment. TenShin is used oftently but tenjin is more right. But in anycase it is not the end of the world. Even tenjin shinyo members might right "tenshin" sometimes.
You're right it's a habit and it rolls off as tenshin i should not do that
4:14 what's the white and red symbol top left I received one in jujitsu years ago honor and blood can you explain more thank you
"Judo Training Methods by Takahiko Ishikawa and Donn F. Draeger":
The standard emblem of the Kodokan is an 8 petaled flower of the cherry tree. It was adopted by feudal Samurai because the flower is detached from the branch at the apogee of its beauty in order to die. It symbolizes a degree of maturity within the individual which is summarized by the expression, “Strong within, but gentle without.” The fire red color of the center of the emblem indicates the “fire” or “ardor” of the individual. The spirit of the Kodokan combines the strength of iron forged to red heat inside the silk, supple, and white flower. This is symbolic of the union of body strength and resistant suppleness and flexibility of the pure spirit developed by the Judo exponent of black belt grade. It is a sign of personal attainment.
Very good! Lesson learned!
Thank you Kleydson
4:26 is a sutemi waza indeed. In TSR it is called... "Sutemi".
Concerning kuzushi I have some disagreements but anyway.
Kito ryu has a lot of kuzushi, and according to writings it influenced judo quite a lot, but if tsr has it too i won't be surprised
@@Chadi I still don’t know many things so please always double-check what I am writing. In my opinion the surprise will be to find a koryu that does not practice kuzushi, not the opposite. For example, if you have the old text and you can recognize the "Sutemi" technique, kuzushi is mentioned in the description of the kata within the parenthesis. In a free translation the text says something like the following: "Drop to your knee and pull a bit with one hand while pushing with the other, in order to disrupt (kuzushi) the opponent’s body". If you cannot see the kuzushi in the kata, most probably is due to poor performance. My intention is not to claim that TSR is perfect (it is not and it is outdated) but to show that a developed concept of kuzushi exists within the school. I would guess that Kito Ryu studied the matter even deeper.
Have you done the nage no kata? The one you call a version of yoko wakare to me looks like a jujutsu form of the ura nage done in the nage no kata
I'd say it's different
People don't understand that Yoko wakare is VERY nasty. In the dojo we know how to fall out of it. But in the street, the legs are cut off and the person will fall flat on their face.
Yeah, a smaller guy myself, I’ve always loved yoko wakare. I’d agree that fudging it puts you in a really disadvantageous position, but it’s a wonderful throw against more aggressive opponents in my experience.
I feel like a lot of the “this would never work” comments on the internet, though, really boil down to “I don’t see that in the majority of UFC matches, so it must be fake/never work.” Everyone is an expert, I guess.
Indeed
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Yo Chadi, when the japanese wanted to choose the martial art for the police between judo and jujutsu, what was the reason that made judo wins almost every fight?
He's got a great video on that already
@@rustyshackleford735 yea i remeber that i just wonder what made judo superior to jujutsu?
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Esse estilo antigo é muito longe do jiu-jitsu e judô de hoje. Sinceramente, em alguma parte da história ocorreu sim uma mistura com artes marciais chinesas devido o de hoje ser mais fluído e muito mais próximo das artes marciais chinesas