Bloodborne: The Board Game is NOT Genius

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  • @Pots2Go
    @Pots2Go 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    As a longtime fan/player of the video game, and a longtime boardgame player, I would say this is one of the finer adaptations of a videogame to boardgame that exists. What it does right is it's a boardgame first. The hunter track is the biggest difference to the actual videogame and while I hated it at first, it gave the game the needed pressure on the player that keeps this from being a terrible slog that is the dark souls board game. While I disagree with your review, you are entertaining to watch. Good job.

  • @MrTomlette
    @MrTomlette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    I was actually surprised at how good this game is. First play is like, ok, it's fine, but it almost feels bland. But then you start seeing how much depth there is in such a light, easy to setup system, and even things some reviewers complained (like the randomness of the tiles) is baked in as part of the mechanisms you have to learn to manipulate in order to win a scenario.

    • @jean-nicolasgauthier5484
      @jean-nicolasgauthier5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same for me. And they always complained about the 4 players games, but way better at 3 and way way way better at 2

    • @cheesedanishable
      @cheesedanishable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is eric lang I feel, he's just a good designer and his ideas really shine at certain times in his games

    • @RvLeshrac
      @RvLeshrac ปีที่แล้ว

      @@technoartfest8708 Absolutely. The game is *COMPLETELY* random. Literally the entire game is random, and you can easily lose a game before you've started because the deck is in the wrong order, or the tiles are in the wrong order.

    • @McDudes
      @McDudes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Played it twice with 3 friends, first we couldnt even beat part 1 and played wrong most of that time, it took us like 6 hours too lol. Then we got to the boss at part 2 and that also took like 6 hours. But damn it was fun even though we couldn't beat a single campaign yet. But just learning the mechanics, how to best way manipulate tiles like you said as well as enemies and optimize for best possible outcome is really fun. And then it does feel like you can do really good specific builds for each character too which makes progression fun and rewarding as well. Also the quests are interesting and well narrated without being overtold.

  • @estebanrodriguez5409
    @estebanrodriguez5409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I was half expecting for boss music to kick in and Hbomber guy entering through a wall... but death by rats also is a fitting ending

  • @thecommuterzombie
    @thecommuterzombie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    I'm still unclear, is this game officially licensed?

    • @cutthr0atjake
      @cutthr0atjake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes it is

    • @thecommuterzombie
      @thecommuterzombie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cutthr0atjake you da MVP

    • @WolfanTerror
      @WolfanTerror 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If it wasn't... pretty sure they would have been sued into oblivion lol

  • @daltonelza1290
    @daltonelza1290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I like the way you present your feelings on it, but my game group loves it. We've already played 42 scenarios and are still actively enjoying it. We are about to start the last campaign box this Saturday.

  • @elfboy745
    @elfboy745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After Efka's 3rd "its tricky", I expected him to do the Run D.M.C. rap song.

  • @styfen
    @styfen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If you ever want to offload all that plastic and cardboard to someone who paints minis professionally.
    I'm right over here!

  • @ignitedxblaze
    @ignitedxblaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "I bought all of these.." - Also me trying to hide all the boxes like Ed trying to cover up in the show.

  • @Jeepllama
    @Jeepllama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The combat in sleeping gods is very nice. Feels like an elegant system that (with some evolutions) could be used effectively in these IP games that are supposed to have difficult but rewarding combat encounters

  • @jaydenklein1654
    @jaydenklein1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For anyone coming to this now or in the future and you really dislike the hunt track, I'll tell you what my group did to make it less of a pain, but still a challenge. The only thing you change is you do not advance the track at the end of a round. Going to the hunter's dream for whatever reason will still move it but we found that little change has made it significantly better. Try it out if you like.

    • @JAkob11Morastus
      @JAkob11Morastus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Other option is to remove hunters dream from the game when it reaches the end. You cannot go back to heal/upgrade anymore and if you die, the death is permanent.

    • @NinjaHawkins
      @NinjaHawkins ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@JAkob11Morastus Ooh, I like this suggestion. Makes it like a "sudden death/overtime" situation. If you've tried both house rules, which do you prefer?

    • @EkiRoa1
      @EkiRoa1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like this

    • @RustedParadox
      @RustedParadox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did a similar thing. Tracker only progresses when I die or enter the Hunter's dream, and can go backwards for every tile cleared, but cannot be moved back past a red circle on the tracker. It made the game easier, and then we put two mini-boss hunters in the mix and it was non-stop fun.

  • @ToddCarter
    @ToddCarter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The gameplay footage in the credits was way more engaging than I expected. The review was good, too. :)

  • @andyscout
    @andyscout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hmm, I've only done two campaigns so far and only one of them had you fight the boss in chapter 2. The other one mixed up chapter 2 by including a psuedo-boss fight against another hunter including a choose-your-own adventure decision on which side to side with.
    I personally disagree that the game becomes a pushover by chapter 2 and 3. Sure, I felt stronger by the end, but not so much so that I could fight easily. Especially when I know there's a race against time and with later chapters including extra fights or bosses.
    Maybe I'm just trying to justify spending $300 on bits of plastic but I think I like it as a whole. My biggest agreement is that the boss fights aren't quite as good as I'd hope, especially as mentioned with the "make them weaker" thing being a bit of a trap. I still think they're fairly serviceable though, and definitely can be tough at times.

    • @RvLeshrac
      @RvLeshrac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After playing, I agree with this. And one-handed solo, it is nearly impossible. I can't imagine any situation where it would become "Easy".

  • @michaellee6537
    @michaellee6537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One cannot survive on Glommhaven alone. Any other dungeon crawlers you would suggest? A medium weight one is something I would like to add to my collection.

  • @Flegmoritz
    @Flegmoritz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With the POK expansion the Winnu are great to play in TI4 :)

  • @zetsun0
    @zetsun0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you feel the game is too easy (because of reasons you mentioned, like upgrade cards being strong, for example):
    * play with 4 players, no player ever has a full deck of 12 upgraded cards by the end of a campaign, there's simply not enough time to do so, the time tracker will end your run before you
    Bosses are not a long drawn out fight, on my first playthrough we killed the cleric beast in the last turn, which was a blood moon(reset), meaning we had to deal 24 damage that round, and we did, with the help of some consumables and rewards.
    What to do before the blood moon so that your damage on the boss isn't wasted? Kill other enemies for blood echoes and cash them in the dream, complete other insight missions for more rewards, get consumables. There are even some insight missions that directly affect boss mechanics and makes them easier. If you're only planning bossfights one or two rounds prior to a blood moon, you're doing it wrong.
    As to RNG, you have it in literally every board game, and I'd argue that bloodborne is on the fewer side of dice rolls throughout a campaign.
    As to narrative, I totally disagree. Soulsborne games are made so that environment and gameplay tell a large portion of the story. Obviously in a board game adaptation you're not going to have the same level of environment building, that would destroy replayability altogether, not to mention too many different and non reusable tiles. The fact that you can mix and match from any expansion and still get a cohesive experience is what makes it great. I think they did a pretty good job with what they had, although I agree that some more work could've been done in the tile system not to be so linear. (perhaps implement verticality and such)

  • @INF1NIT3D00M
    @INF1NIT3D00M 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Honestly, as much as I love Bloodborne: The Board Game, I'd be remiss if I didn't tell people that 1: I'm a miniature painter, so the minis alone were what I was after; 2: I'm a huge Bloodborne videogame stan so I'm really biased and no one is less of a fan of the franchise for not liking the board game; and 3: When you buy the massive Kickstarter like this, you're pretty much automatically defensive of it. You had to justify it to yourself first, so when someone comes around and criticizes it, that can immediately put you on the defensive even when they're making really salient points. That's kind of how I feel here, even if he's repeating my own thoughts about the game back at me, I have to fight that primal urge to be like "B-but I love this thing, I spent all this money! It can't be *bad*, and I don't make *mistakes*!" even though he alleges neither of those things and I don't believe them either.
    This video is spot-on. This is a game I'd love to bring around to your house and play with you, dear reader. I'll show you what I painted, gush about the mechanics, we can laugh and strategize about what we're doing or what happens to us in the game. I.... just wouldn't recommend that you buy it for yourself at retail, though. The core box is really good, but it's like playing the very first section of the game, ending just *after* all the stuff everyone remembers and just *before* all the stuff that makes Bloodborne so captivating and unique. You could be playing a Van Helsing simulator, for all it matters to Bloodborne in the core box. If you've never played the video game, you might get a completely different impression of what Bloodborne *is* and what it covers from the core board game box. But then, the rest of the game being added on really *does* feel like it's added on; you're playing much shorter add-on scenarios to existing campaigns, or in the really big boxes one or two parallel campaigns that switch which line of quests you go on based on your choices. It's cool, but it feels like venturing into a DLC area rather than playing the next segment of a larger story (even though it *is* the next leg of the overall story). This is one of those All-Or-Nothing purchases, where you need to absolve yourself of any FOMO. The minis are fine, as an experienced modeler, but if you're not doing the cleanup and paint work, this product isn't really worth the exorbitant cost. This is the kind of thing you get if you're right in the middle of a *very* specific venn diagram of painting, bloodborne fandom, board game fan, and Lots of Disposable Income To Burn On Board Games.

    • @xahpookx
      @xahpookx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the base KS pledge is more than enough game. Definitely don't need an all in pledge taking up half my living room.

  • @MrBlackGonzo1
    @MrBlackGonzo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought the core box and played the first 3 chapters with my girlfriend. it's our first English language board game and second kickstarter after Tainted grail. Mechanical tinkering is really fun, but don't play with more than 2 people - it's better to think together and treat each task as a cooperative solitaire, instead of scrolling social media waiting for your own turn.
    I haven't played the original Bloodborn but compared to the previously mentioned tainted grail BBBG narratively disappoints expectations. Sure, an elaborate multithreaded storyline wasn't the designers' goal, but you could expect more. Finally, I would like to add that KS plastic is dusty on Kallax and it makes me sick just from the hassle of folding it. If you bought it, you probably will not regret it. If you are thinking about buying it, get the core box.
    Is a good, competent game of its kind.

  • @gabrielm.k.8094
    @gabrielm.k.8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "I LIVE, AGAAAAAIN!" (Nice "blood"borne die, rinse, repeat crossover there)

  • @airtonmbrasil
    @airtonmbrasil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this is a nice video, the pacing, the delivery, holy. And i am not familiar with the sous franchise, just knowing then by watching the essays. Also the blood reference is the cherry on top. I dont know why, but this is my favorite new video of yours. Excelent job.
    PS: Mathew Lee made a essay on dark souls? Where? I Need it

    • @NoPunIncluded
      @NoPunIncluded  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here you go: th-cam.com/video/a7T_1HemrR4/w-d-xo.html

  • @nerdfatha
    @nerdfatha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great Video! and don't forget about the Guns Akimbo power up on top of that first mausoleum. firing off that many flares is great fun!

  • @wwhere
    @wwhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Certainly remember Blood! "I live... again!"

    • @nerdfatha
      @nerdfatha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best game where you can kick zombie heads like soccer balls!

    • @cowgba
      @cowgba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We must be the three people Efka mentioned who got the Blood reference hahaha

    • @wwhere
      @wwhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anyway, just thinking now, if Efka was using Blood as bad compared to Bloodborne, he should have gone with Blood 2. Bloody mess that was indeed!

  • @CabinBoyProductions
    @CabinBoyProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The thing I love about this channel is the reviews that start with something that seems completely unrelated to a board game but ties it all together

  • @Qurx28
    @Qurx28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What I hate most is that they made so much of it kickstarter exclusive, so if you think you might want to have everything eventually, the only thing you can do is pre-order/kickstart everything. Else you'll miss out of multiple playable characters and campaigns. That is also the main reason I didn't get anything, I didn't want just a part and not being able to get more if I wanted to and I also didn't want to spend so much money on a game I wasn't sure I'd like or not.

    • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
      @VinegarAndSaltedFries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don’t worry I’m sure it’ll all be for sale on Miniature Market in a years time like every other “Kickstarter “ exclusive CMON has made.

    • @zorinzorinzorin5243
      @zorinzorinzorin5243 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VinegarAndSaltedFries I guess not.

    • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
      @VinegarAndSaltedFries ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zorinzorinzorin5243 no it was available at miniature market.

  • @artenjoyer9872
    @artenjoyer9872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis. This video summed up why this game was played every weekend for a month and then has been sitting on my shelf untouched for the last year. Love the theme and nostalgia of it all the same. Would kickstart again.

  • @tdj65
    @tdj65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great fair review. I feel you. It's so much stuff and it really could have used some more fine tuning. I feel like I take a bit of a cop out justifying my silly all in pledge, but I enjoy painting minis and getting 200+ minis of fairly good quality it's worth it. I also understand you guys review board games and not minis. Excellent review as always. Thanks!

  • @primalcerebrate4398
    @primalcerebrate4398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Efka, ačiū.
    I always enjoyed your reviews for not only evaluating the game's design, but also considering the context of its production and cultural impact (especially looking at the Colonialism video). Thank you for constantly offering an insight into the process of designing and producing board games and how they impact the final version, consumer behaviour, and the industry as a whole. It helps me appreciate this medium even more.
    On a personal note: How did you stick to making board game reviews over all those years? Did you always had a community backing you up? I'm trying to slowly steer my career into something that is worth the struggle and stress of being self-employed. However, staying motivated and believing it will turn out fine in the end and one will find a supporting community, while trying to juggle the expectations of people in one's current job and everyday human issues, is extremely exhausting. Sometimes to the point, where one just slips into auto-pilot mode and doesn't progress for weeks.
    TL;DR: How did you continue following your path while the rest of the world tries to swallow your time and energy?
    I'm looking forward to many years of your work, thank you again.

  • @Reaperman4711
    @Reaperman4711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, there's the script. Now you have me looking for those little table shelves...

  • @Nick_Whiskey
    @Nick_Whiskey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hate the hunt track as a solo player. Thought it was choking me the entire time when the game could have just been a fun dungeon crawler. There should have been a better alternative than "run really fast through the tiles and ignore the combat otherwise everything resets including the boss as your in the middle of fighting it." If I wanted to Speedrun a game, I'd load up the video game and do an all bosses run in under four hours without the threat of a guillotine hanging over my neck.
    I LOVE Bloodborne. I love Eric Lang's work. The way the hunt track is implemented does not spark joy.

  • @ileopsoas88
    @ileopsoas88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a word on the chalice dungeon mode...I enjoy skimming through campaigns but after the first 3 there is really few differences between them...but chalice dungeons feel always like a challenge, tried it with 5 different gaming group, won only once but every time was a success

    • @NoPunIncluded
      @NoPunIncluded  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes a lot of sense, but I think that viewpoint requires buying into the game wholecloth.

    • @liandel
      @liandel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own the game with all the expansions and came here to say that. And to me a great game is one where you have fun even when losing. Bloodborne, for me, has this element as i enjoy it, succeeding or not. Campaign is of course somewhat linear, although the deck building element and different hunters give a lot of replayability.

  • @ironwolf56
    @ironwolf56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm just concerned about the shockingly low number of expansions for it. Are we sure CMON put enough components in this line?

  • @christopherhogben7231
    @christopherhogben7231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blood! Yes! "I live...agaaiiiiin...." Mad game.

  • @Olvenskol
    @Olvenskol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... still not sure if I should open up my KS all-in or not ;)

  • @waltertav
    @waltertav ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I backed the whole shebang, played the first mission, got intimidated by it all, and sold it for exactly the same amount I spent + Shipping. I hope the next guy who got it off me had a lot of fun with it and didn't just sell it for scalper prices. PS: I am an enormous fan of the videogame and have finished it with a bunch of different builds. One of the easiest playthroughs was with the Axe hunter :D

  • @RadishTheFool
    @RadishTheFool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't play the video game. I don't care about lavish kickstarters. But I always love to hear your thoughts and watch your visuals. Thank you, Efka and Elaine, for another great video.
    And since you mentioned getting into art a bit, and I've started my art journey several years ago, also from nothing, I will share fun tips in my comments.
    Have you discovered Drawfee yet? They do amazing videos where they combine drawing and improv comedy. I think you'd like them.
    Not only are they very funny and talented, but they're also a great bunch of sweet people. Good places to start are their playlists Most Popular and Speed Draws.

  • @CompressionPolice
    @CompressionPolice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    First play of this game was such a slog trying to figure out all the edge cases that weren't properly discussed in the manual.

  • @LeeGinSing
    @LeeGinSing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:58 did I just trip balls?

  • @rorykurek643
    @rorykurek643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I just say that "Blade Runner of Excel sheets" is what I want on my future business cards?

  • @anonymouse8953
    @anonymouse8953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review, thank you!

  • @MarceloEid
    @MarceloEid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ! Myazaki and all the people at From Software created those franchises...just clarifying ;)

  • @ruin8tion
    @ruin8tion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed backing it, but I am buying some of them as I find them because... I really want to paint those minis! The game is also good, so, that's a bonus for me. I am glad I didn't go all in, but I do wish I had supported the base game and at least Hunter's Dream and Upper Cathedral. Because. Minis!

  • @alfyb4512
    @alfyb4512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s depressing. There is so much potential here. Worst, because of the KS model, it is unlikely flaws will be corrected in further expansions. I have this massive mountain of cardboard and plastic, and I just wish I had a bit less and some post-production support and tweaking instead. .

  • @MonsterPainter
    @MonsterPainter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant thoughtful review.

  • @nickhead784
    @nickhead784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm curious if Efka played the Bloodborne card game? Also designed by Eric Lang.

    • @yrrep27
      @yrrep27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that one's a great tabletop game in its own right, going beyond just being a vehicle to remind you of the video game.

  • @Ed-1749
    @Ed-1749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally, the whole thing about you becoming stronger while the enemies stay the same was the biggest thing i noticed. They even had ways to fix this, but oddly were only used to make the early game harder. A few insight quests spawn enemies and have extra cards that give them extra moves and more hp. The NPC fights are also good at this, shame there's only 1 of them in long hunt chapter 3, and it's the objectively wrong choice to do

  • @yasirer
    @yasirer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a review of Massive Darkness!

    • @yasirer
      @yasirer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremyboughtono2 It's not, the game itself is pretty good. It's just the afterthought campaign mode is trash.

  • @samhagen1787
    @samhagen1787 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The nature of the bosses are their attacks are meant to be memorized and deal with later, i.e. you'll probably never win the first time you encounter a boss (because of the new sets of attack cards it brings with) except you are very lucky with the card draw. Personally I'm okay with that. However there is a big bummer: when you lose a scenario you have to repeat THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN AND STARTING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

  • @SheezyBites
    @SheezyBites 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since I'm not very creative almost every game I've started was based on a video-game (and one was based on star trek, which has video-games)... but that's the thing, while playing about with a system you start to see it's flaws and strengths until you realise that it doesn't match whatever you started with... yeah, I may have made a race game with items and drifting, but ultimately projectiles are less fun for this game than traps, and mario really only has banana peels and the timed bob-omb, so I need to change the game to have more and more interesting traps (which to be fair with Mario is a bit easier because there's a lot of games to pull from, so this is a bad example, but I'm sticking with it!). I know these people have contracts, but if they could take something as a jumping off point and then re-themed it to their own world it would have almost certainly made a game that's more cohesive and plays into the strengths of the system better.
    And yes, I know it's rich coming from someone who hasn't finished a game, and only has four he even thinks are good enough to continue working on, but 1. time and trust that it's ready for play testing are hard to come by, and 2. I can tell when most of my games aren't going to work out, and know not to make it and 20 expansions for a kick starter campaign as a result.

  • @simontaverner3121
    @simontaverner3121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the splitscreen

  • @nomorecontinues6564
    @nomorecontinues6564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Well done, this video made me want to play this game and also never touch this game, at the same time. My head hurts now.
    I’m glad I have Dark Souls: The Card Game, because it has similar goals as this game, but I know I actually like playing it.

    • @andyscout
      @andyscout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I actually like playing this game so YMMV. I haven't played Dark Souls TCG so I can't compare. I think Efka might have made a rules mistake, which is why he found chapters 2 and 3 to be easy outside boss fights. Namely, you don't get to use the ability on your cards until the attack happens, so if you get staggered, you won't draw that extra card you needed or heal that extra bit you were hoping to heal.

    • @DamtheMan50
      @DamtheMan50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@andyscout Incorrect. If there is no timing (like After Attack), the effect happens immediately when you place the card into the slot. So Draw 1, you get it immediately during step 1 of combat, so you might just draw that Dodge you needed and be able to use the Dodge against the enemy attack, all in one attack sequence.

    • @andyscout
      @andyscout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DamtheMan50 Double checked the rules and the step for playing a card makes no mention of resolving effects while the “resolve attacks” step does. However, this time I noticed the extra box that says you do those immediately. They really should have put that in the main bullet point and not off to the side... Guess I’ve been playing it wrong lol

  • @robertcassistre5527
    @robertcassistre5527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I just got this for my birthday and played through the first chapter of the long hunt. SO MUCH FUN

  • @yellowmeeplereads
    @yellowmeeplereads 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ooh nice Fargo-esque split screens

  • @IronSalamander8
    @IronSalamander8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Blood! I just played it again recently after raising the difficulty slightly higher! Still not that far up yet, it's not an easy game.

    • @kateanon8791
      @kateanon8791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello to one of the two other people who remember Blood!

    • @svachalek
      @svachalek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live… again! I flew to Monolith like 2 weeks before the game came out to pull some all nighters with a coworker and add TCP/IP (internet) support for it, which was still a new thing in games at the time. So we binged way too much of it in testing and it’s forever scarred on my brain. But despite it’s poor reviews and forgotten status it was pretty fun anyway!

  • @thelyghter7927
    @thelyghter7927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just LAUGHED with the Winnu easter egg.

  • @alfclarkclarkclark
    @alfclarkclarkclark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’ve clearly never had Winnu warsuns on Mecatol Rex

  • @necogreendragon
    @necogreendragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am one of the three people that remembers Blood the video game. Along with many of it's build engine cousins.

  • @Aquaria942
    @Aquaria942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shocked that Hbomb didn't make some kind of physical cameo. Lot of references to the video though.

  • @JohnnyMcNabb63
    @JohnnyMcNabb63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    A good game that takes up half of your Kallax and cost over $300. Think I will pass. Wish Kickstarter would stop with the endless expansions during the first run. Just do the core with maybe 1 expansion instead.

    • @jellorelic
      @jellorelic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hard to drive the FOMO and sense of 'value' without piles and piles of "free" stuff.

    • @denisloebner4882
      @denisloebner4882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah when you see reviews you are already too late. The retail versions just cant compare with the kickstarter cores (especially in this case with the too limited pool of hunters). i think kickstarter was 90$ + shipping and the half-content-retail i just saw for 95 euro...

    • @DireMcCann
      @DireMcCann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Reminds me of a SU&SD vid where they say “Stop buying expansions for games you haven’t played! The most fun you’ll have is the moment you place your pledge”… since then I think of that more and more…!

    • @denisloebner4882
      @denisloebner4882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DireMcCann in almost every case the corebox is by far the best deal anyways, often to such a degree that the dev even looses money on it (AW usually, Middara, i think Scythe also lost money on the corebox or maybe only the reprinting? cant remember).

    • @xahpookx
      @xahpookx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know you can just back the base game right? No one is forcing you to buy expansions.

  • @rnghwdbcs
    @rnghwdbcs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:25 Winnu is actually quite fun after the expansion

  • @danielgaldamesorellana5871
    @danielgaldamesorellana5871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This review is hilarious

  • @joelbergvonlinde1389
    @joelbergvonlinde1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A really good one also rimes with ‘Shellboy: The Moard Mame’

    • @SpoonyBard88
      @SpoonyBard88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with Hellboy is that the content distrubution is whacky

  • @scrubkid6602
    @scrubkid6602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Entered wondering what this game was. Left with wanting to play Blood

  • @mahna_mahna
    @mahna_mahna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never tire of hearing Efka say "oeuvre".

  • @williammyles
    @williammyles ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy your review thanks team 😊

  • @tigerwalms
    @tigerwalms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What specifically was it you were not impressed about in the first scenario?

  • @eriksjogren800
    @eriksjogren800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos!

  • @eggius
    @eggius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember Blood! You're welcome Eflka.

    • @EHngelic
      @EHngelic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol! I was just thinking of this game a couple days ago. Remembering the good ol' classic FPS days

  • @Ipazc
    @Ipazc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good board game idea, with a lot of time invested on how many plastic toys can we they fit on the KS campaing.
    Should be painfull to fell a good game mechanic be unecesary expanded until it feels repetitive.

  • @Nogoodusernamehere
    @Nogoodusernamehere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the 2 part of the arkham games?

  • @claudiavilleneuve7936
    @claudiavilleneuve7936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was crazy enought to scan my tiles, photoshop them to remove the printing mesh and laminate them once they were 100% aligned recto verso. With an all-in pledge. So yeah, I'm invested in it, but I see the flaws. Good thing is, they do not impede my enjoyment of it so I'm happy about it (the components were my biggest gripe and removed the flimsy tiles and replaces the tokens with arbitrary metal ones with a fitting theme. But, there is so much room for improvement on that part. The game's great, but I ain't backing cmon again. First and final of them. Anyways I have enought solo gameplay for well over a year. Not counting my mini painting time which I will enjoy. Then again basing will take forever. Such a great mixed bag of feeling! I feel like a picked a party mix. Great chips but there's always those darn pretzels that take the fun away haha.
    edit for typo

  • @goodlookingcorpse
    @goodlookingcorpse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:03 Ron Perlman.

  • @redsands1001
    @redsands1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep meaning to start Fargo

    • @penoyer79
      @penoyer79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      first 2 seasons are good and slightly tie into each other. after that it gets redundant....

  • @TheChomoon
    @TheChomoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First of all, I love your thoughts, even if I do not always agree. I found Bloodborne much more engaging than Shloomhaven (Snorehaven). I love how streamlined and slick the game is. I have just a few more boxes apart from the core game (enough to not get bored with playing the same hunters). I always play two players so the "going back to Hunter's Dream" never felt like an issue for me. I do agree that scenarios are a bit repetitive, bosses are a bit too unpredictable and the power/difficulty curve is not great. I do agree that graphic design is disappointing. Even with that I still can't wait for another game (we still have two campaigns to go, and I'm a bit worried about what will come after that). As for the "it could be better outside the KS" argument - it's a big "maybe". No game is "perfect" and no game is ever "finished", all games are released when they're "good enough", and some of them turn out to be "great, actually". I feel this game is better than "good enough".
    Also I'm the third person who knows the "Blood" game :)

  • @Squishyjellyfish
    @Squishyjellyfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i only getting this due being huge bloodborne fan lol

  • @garathminis5108
    @garathminis5108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gloomhaven?
    A 10 card puzzle game with a 45min setup and a Dc skin...

  • @joaovictorcunha9826
    @joaovictorcunha9826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im looking at bgg for schollomhaven, im really interested now...

  • @luminarious
    @luminarious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess for a lot of video game fans the card game (especially with the expansion) would be just the right amount of recognizable stuff? Eric M. Lang did solid work on that one as well.

    • @RvLeshrac
      @RvLeshrac ปีที่แล้ว

      The card game is even worse. It abandons literally everything even remotely related to the game except a pasted-on theme, right down to the mandatory *THREE PLAYER MINIMUM*.

  • @Jakedruidink
    @Jakedruidink 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My friends and I play the Bloodborne board game. We like it a lot. There are a few things we have house rules for, but only for us to make room for a 5th player.

  • @thecuriousboardgamer
    @thecuriousboardgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic review Ekfa. I'm not even interested in the game, but your review writing is so great, I can't help but watch. :)

  • @joseg.6187
    @joseg.6187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never played that old doom looking game. But I played every thing back then?! How?! What kind of sorcery is this?!

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, after 2 years... Have there being a "patch"?

  • @jacksonburris5179
    @jacksonburris5179 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That watchmen analogy is absolutely spot on lol

  • @JimmySquiky
    @JimmySquiky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I honestly regret pledging for more than just the base game. I like the game but it's not worth taking 2 kallax square.

    • @MrLiguinii
      @MrLiguinii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the true unit of a boardgamer! Even ShloomHaven only takes only one.

    • @Michael-gs3lw
      @Michael-gs3lw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think, if that's the case, you can sell expansion without too much issue? There is a lot of people that want or minies, or didn't get it at kickstarter time.
      So. Two birds one stone?

    • @denisloebner4882
      @denisloebner4882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can probably sell the expansions with profit though :-D

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm sadly I do remember blood. Not sure why, now in confused.

  • @patamonsvk
    @patamonsvk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am i the only one exited about the Blood reference??
    It was a amazing wacky FPS.

  • @novullera7179
    @novullera7179 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, I Love bloodborne :D

  • @colelind9294
    @colelind9294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they had the Dark Souls licence as well.

  • @MikeVarelaDaSilva
    @MikeVarelaDaSilva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn blood. It was fun game to play lol

  • @CrabCrow
    @CrabCrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing they did get right is that this board game is not for casual players. My board game group hates the hunter track with a passion because someone dies at least once every round and we always run out of track before we can finish a single mission. That combined with our terrible luck with drawing good tiles or upgrades means playing this game feels like pulling teeth. I just adapted the setting to a role playing game so I can use the minis but I don't think we'll ever play the base game again.

    • @ChibiFlashify
      @ChibiFlashify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds like a you problem honestly.

    • @CrabCrow
      @CrabCrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChibiFlashify K

    • @user-yp6yr9te7l
      @user-yp6yr9te7l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You aren't playing strategically if a hunter dies at least once every round. That should only happen at the beginning of the game, if that.

    • @CrabCrow
      @CrabCrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-yp6yr9te7l That's what I was getting at with my original comment. The moves you can do each turn are randomized by drawing from a deck, the upgrades you can buy are random, the tiles you draw are random. You can really only strategize with what the game randomly gives you and if you have bad luck (like my group) it becomes very difficult. I'm not trying to say the game can't be enjoyed, simply warning that it isn't for people looking to just play a gothic horror board game. Cthulu: Death may die has the same track but it's not random and a lot more fun.

    • @user-yp6yr9te7l
      @user-yp6yr9te7l 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrabCrow I wouldn't say Bloodborne is random. It seems so because early on, you don't know what the enemies will do and what you can do. But once you pick your hunters carefully, plan on where to move, etc. it becomes a great deal less random, and more like a game that rewards trying. There is a bit of a gambling aspect to it, sure, but like the videogame, you never know if facing a new type of enemy will just get you killed. The first time the Cleric Beast just jumped in front of me on that Great Bridge, and I turned and ran, only to realize the road back is blocked...... Never played Cthulhu death may die. What's it like?

  • @ralphco0
    @ralphco0 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved Blood back on the PC!😆

  • @jernfuglen
    @jernfuglen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blood is such a fun shooter.
    Ps: I love the shirt.

  • @iconthe7324
    @iconthe7324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video I really enjoyed it!

  • @marekostafin9434
    @marekostafin9434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your shirt!

  • @Beppsta
    @Beppsta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I really want to find Blood on the internet, install and re-live my 14 year old youth again.

    • @NoPunIncluded
      @NoPunIncluded  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The version that runs on modern PCs is called Blood: Fresh Supply

    • @Beppsta
      @Beppsta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoPunIncluded thank you, found it for £7.19 on steam - complete bargain! Now to take a break painting the conservatives and download it.

  • @RobertHovakimyan55
    @RobertHovakimyan55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was on board until you smack talked the Winnu. Its a fun exercise in role playing a penguin where the penguin is an alien race and their egg is Mecatol Rex and flying is scoring more than 5 points. Maybe you have a point.

  • @slaverzguild
    @slaverzguild 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's Arkham Horror pt.2!?

  • @RobOngrui
    @RobOngrui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Expensive, overproduced, convoluted, tons of minis - that sums up CMON correctly. Still buying it.

    • @Tjolmir
      @Tjolmir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would buy it if it took way less space

    • @VaultBoy13
      @VaultBoy13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tjolmir It'll take way less space if you consolidate the boxes. I would imagine like most CMON games you can get everything from the Kickstarter into 2 (and worst case 3) boxes.

    • @andyscout
      @andyscout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VaultBoy13 I've got everything except enemy minis in the base box (made my own insert to fit it all). Then all normal minis standing in two boxes and all bosses and mini-bosses standing in a third box. So 4 boxes total but you could probably get it further combined if you wanted to bag minis. Went from taking up three full Kallax cubes to one and a half, which is acceptable for me.

  • @AhJong0
    @AhJong0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, that top shelf NPI continues!

  • @magnificusdominusduxchad4229
    @magnificusdominusduxchad4229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y harnam nooooo it was painful

  • @MrBlitzNZ
    @MrBlitzNZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved Blood, such a good game.

  • @aalever
    @aalever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played Blood at uni! "Fresh victims for the ever-growing army of the undead!"