The biggest 'gap' in folding phones... just got fixed! - Honor Magic Vs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2023
- The next generation of folding phone has arrived! Folding completely flat with more simple construction. Folding phones are more accessible than ever. Current pricing is HERE: www.hihonor.com/global/phones... and HUGE thanks to Honor for sponsoring this video. Tune in to their big announcement at MWC here: www.hihonor.com/global/events...
Personally i have been a fan of folding phones from day one - but the price has always been hard to swallow. Finally though - Honor has found a way to bring the cost of assembly down with a singularly casted hinge that brings the total number of hinge support structure components to 4. The Magic VS is a huge leap forward in making foldables cheaper to assemble. #HONORMagicVs #MWC23 #UnleashthePowerofMagic
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Watching you destroy devices used to be painful, even more when you own a mid range phone watching someone destroy flagships you can't afford. Keep up the great work!
@Don't Read My Profile Picture Don't watch my middle finger!
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture.6I read it 😱😱😱😱😱
@@Brewer_ say my name
@@ibrar6364 you ARE IBRAR
@@Lasagna9 you god damn right
For those wondering the price, it's listed as ¥8000 which roughly translates to $1180
I expect about $1200 - $1300 once it comes to the US
If it ever comes
make that 1499$ for import duties
im okey with my samsung galaxy j1plus...still working 😊
They won't come.
@@talentreplay8702we never said that you had to switch but ok
as a mechanical engineer i will say it's way harder to make a design simpler than making it more complex
I noticed that and it’s crazy ngl, innovation is what make’s technology amazing tho
Someone wise said "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication"
It's like that with basically everything.
When you look at someone doing something that you know is hard to do, but they make it look simple, that's when you know you're looking at an expert. Same thing with intellectual things...those that can say something complex in simple terms truly know what they're talking about.
As a software engineer, I concur.
Any engineer or really any kind of technical person can tell you that.
I remember my dad told me 20years ago that in future there will be screens that you can fold like newspaper and put in pocket. I taught he was crazy....
Your dad is time traveler
We will have that one day. This is not it yet. But getting closer. Not sure why anyone would want that though.
@@VestigialHead because of Harry Potter of course!
He is.
I think tiny wireless ear buds would be just as crazy go think about back then
JRE: I will try to be nice to the device
Also JRE: *cuts right through flexible screen with razor knife*
@Don't Read My Profile Picture I can't see your name
@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok
That's him being nice
joe rogan experience?
@@pleaseenterusername1959 nah, that's him showing love
I was honestly amazed by the relatively small amount of glue on the battery. This should be the norm. (Or no glue at all, but I don't mind this amount.)
Glue actually helps a bit with structural stability, the battery is quite heavy and if it keeps shaking around freely, it might damage internal components. Magical pulltabs are quite nice.
I am not an expert on electronics so take this info with a grain of salt. Or whatever the saying is.
@@BocchiSensei well you are right with that almost
@@BocchiSensei magic pull tabs break the system used by xiaomi is pretty good (i believe oppo and others use it as well) where its a plastic tab you pull to pry the battery out, this solution where the adhesive is weak enough to be pulled out is also quite good tho,
Adhesive is unfortunately necessary. Having the battery move around could be bad for other components in the phone. Though this is the right amount of adhesive for sure. This or the pull tabs are a great option.
Huawei on their phones (and most Chinese), have 3 step battery removal, and its the easiest thing on earth.. this should be the norm, but Samsung is using strong adhesive not to make the device more stronger, but just to charge you more money for replacement if you choose to go to their service center :) if you go to Huawei service center you would pay no more to 30-40 usd for new battery with labor included :)
I'm fascinated by the innards of phones, but watching you always brings a tear to my eye. Especially when you murder screens 😆😆😆
😂😂😂
Do you really make $750 a day?
@@mindhunter8772 dont fall for the scams brother
@@mindhunter8772 its a robot, it copies a top comment
The amount of engineering that goes into these phones is just incredible, blows my mind every time
just to be used to make stupid tiktok videos, that's sad
engineering stolen by china as always.
Love the Videos! I love the folding phone content, its great to see the technology progress!
First time I have actually thought it would be nice to own a foldable.. that flat fold looks so good
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Love my foldable phone. I honestly don't mind the gap or the crease either, I just kind of forget about them
This is the first video that I watched of yours. It was a lot more um, enjoyable than I anticipated. Thank you
I definitely think foldable are reaching a point of being a legit evolution for mobile devices. I passed on the first few gens but devices like this and the Find N2 are very compelling examples of the commitment in the folding device segment. Great video as always!
meh'
in a few years will be the norm
It's interesting on the manufacturing process they've done which eliminated some components and structures on the hinge, but I'm skeptical how they would stand to the reverse bend test. Hope you can revisit this one once you get the production version and have it durability tested.
honor is spelt wrong thats enough ti make it trash
@@girlsdrinkfeck You just spelt it the same way.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox r. Woosh
@@girlsdrinkfeck Tell a joke next time.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox its called irony
4:52 Zack taking the approach that if he's going down, he's taking everyone with him! Love it...
Very impressive.. thank you for showing !
At 7:25 the left and right gaskets are actually color coordinated with port and starboard sides of boats. Where the starboard side (right) is green, and the port side (left) is red.
Why are you using sea navigation terms for a phone?
@@livolas because there’s a little boat easter egg in the phone with the color coded gaskets
This definitely seems like the closest a folding phone has gotten to my ideal jumping in points would be. If they can get the crease to go away on the screens somehow I would buy one.
"we should have a moment of silence..that was enough" lol. very cool hinge. i hope to have a foldable one day, they are so cool
It's such an honor to review the Honor from the inside!
7 months late but it’s nice that the foldable smartphones are no longer having a gap in between. I like it’s better when phones fold flat.
2:13 *opens galaxy fold
*Whoops screen fall off*
Continues normally
OnePlus 11 durability test soon please. Really want to see if this year's model is still prone to breaking.
I will with that P bump
Zach, the cadence and delivery of that moment of silence segway, I almost lost some coffee in the middle of a sip. Timing was too good lol
I really liked the machine weld on the screws its a good touch
Need a durability! Especially to see if it folds the other way, since it's using plastic, "aerospace grade plastic" but plastic nonetheless in parts of the spine!
I highly doubt my next phone will be a foldable; but, the phone after it very well could be. While the "Flip" style phones do nothing for me, the ones that unfold into a tablet are intriguing as I can often use a bigger screen. The only things holding me back are pricing for those available in the USA and some lingering concerns about long term durability. It's not like I'm unsatisfied with rigid screen devices so I'm in no real hurry to switch to a foldable unless I get lucky entering a contest or find a very sweet deal from my carrier, eBay, or Amazon.
We lol I break, you watch.. we’re all in this together lol
You have a soothing voice so I’m here for this journey!
The springs look really cool.
I love how spring mechanism clips in place at moving hinges. Like a 3DS springy, rotating, plastic cylinder hinge. 😍
I really want to make the switch to a foldable, the tech just isn't quite there yet for me to be confident enough to jump in. This phone is definitely a step in the right direction however and I think that in just a few short years it'll be there
Very impressive hinge and display reinforcement!
Yes, my next phone will be foldable. And thanks to you, I will be able to learn about the options available.
I think the reason Samsung leave the gap is so that if any grid gets on the screen (say a grain of sand) and happens to sit right on crease, there would be a not insubstantial risk of breaking the screen when folded shut if there is no gap. if this screen go's 'in' a bit when its folded (so its only a hard bend on the outside) that should have the same effect but its hard to see if thats the case here.
all in all it looks like a good phone. I am so glad that other manufacturers are jumping in on the folding phone thing. Love my fold4, don't think I will ever go back to a 'regular' style phone, but with Samsung being the only real option here in Australia, there is no real reason for them to make it any cheaper, if more folding phones come out, there should be more competition (and more app support)
5:11 'And now that the screen is off, we can get to screwing.'
- conversations with your robot girlfriend
8:16 the way zack was holding it, I was hoping for a bend test
I'm HONORed to watch this, Thank U z:
As technology advances, it's exciting to see innovative new products like folding phones hit the market. However, it's also important to remember that these products can come with their own unique set of challenges and limitations. It's encouraging to see companies like Honor addressing these issues head-on and working to improve the user experience for their customers
Awesome hinge mechanism, interesting to see how all the components are cast together to make the only "bolt on" parts be the tensioning springs. Foldable hinges seem to have come a surprisingly long way in the 2 years since I got my Z Flip 3. Still though, I'll be waiting for the Z Flip 5. Samsung's software support is just straight up superior to most of these other OEMs, and I expect that they'll be using at least a similar hinge to this one in the Flip/Fold 5s later this year. Unfortunate that more manufacturers aren't making flip phones and keep to the more phablet-style folding phones - I've had such a good experience using my Flip I doubt I'll ever buy a phone with a pocket footprint larger than my wallet any time in the foreseeable future.
I personally don't see a need as well, but cool nonetheless.
Samsung already made a gearless hinge with the Fold 4. You can even see it in Jerry's video
@@santiagocorvalan3068 Yes but the Flip 4 hinge SUCKS DONKEYBALLS. We've had to replace my partner's Flip4 3 times now due to broken hinge mechanism.
I could never watch JerryRigEverything videos fully, but tis quality content like always
green and red gaskets corespond with the port and starboard colours which probably helps you tell which side the gaskets go on if you have to put it back together
That is so incredibly intricate and complicated. Hard to imagine that so much can fit in such a small space. Simply amazing work by all the engineers involved.
I'll still never buy a folding phone though.
Since Z Fold 1, I was a bit skeptical about folding devices, but amazed at the same time. I've waited for them to mature until I've got in November a Z Fold 3 (couldn't afford a 4 😂), and even if I had regressed in some aspects from my late S21U, such as camera department, I got used pretty fast to this new type of device, with its big inner screen, its productivity and how polished the Android version for Z Fold is and really uses all the potential of a folding device format. I don't plan to go back to a "traditional" smartphone anymore, at least for now, and I'm quite thrilled to see the innovations that Z Fold 5 will bring. Unfortunately, the price is still quite prohibitive (especially here in Brazil, where a Z Fold 4 still costs around 8 Brazilian minimum wages).
Just broke my s21 ultra so I was looking at the fold 3 for a replacement, looks brilliant but I know I'll manage to break it lol, settled for an iPhone 13 pro instead
Got the z fold 4 a few weeks ago. The only drawback is the weight of the phone and the size. It's like a brick when folded and a slight heavy tablet when unfolded, especially with a case on it. I suspect in a the next version or two they will slim it down further and make it lighter and that will be the sweet spot for practicality imo.
@@mightbegenius use an aramid carbon fiber case. And apparently no, it will be refined and kinda slimmer, but rumor says the Fold 5 will be heavier.
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@@mightbegenius New Fold 4 owner here. The weight is hefty I agree, but I actually prefer the brickiness when folded. I had a Note 9 before, and it was too thin for me to hold comfortably without a rubber case. The Fold 4 has plenty of depth for a solid grip.
Love your dry, smooth sense of humor man.
The engineering of the mechanism is amazing. Making that so simple...
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The Magic Vs is such an amazing product, bringing more competitions to the foldable market. Samsung gotta work harder to make the gap and crease less visible, or else they'll get replaced by other brands soon!
Samsung software is still unbeatable
@@GaryGaryGaga what Samsung software?
fold4 has digitizer and IPX8.
It's not a simple comparison.
Or just simply release a rollable finally...
@@raito2jionx why would u want your folding 1500$ flagship phone to be wet?
I might go folding this year. With Samsungs low trade in value for the S22 Ultra on the S23 pre-order, I think I'm going to see what I can get toward the Z Fold 5. I'm hoping they will give big trade in values to incentivize consumers to try the folding devices.
I'm fascinated by the innards of phones, but watching you always brings a tear to my eye. Especially when you murder screens..
Amazing tech !! Great job Honor !! Wish i had the budget to buy one !!!
Damn, honor that was impressive engineering...i did not expect to be so simple, yet so complex at the same time
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Would love to see the hinge side by side with the Samsung one.
That would give a better view on the differences and simplification.
Well played👍
Hmm.. I love how you test those phones new subscriber here 👍👍
I think it’s almost gotten to a point where foldables can actually replace main stream flagships, and I’m most likely getting one. Tho for this model I’m not exactly thrill at the prospect of so many springs, quite innovative tho👍👍👍
I've had a fold 1 and currently a fold 3. You'll never go back to a regular phone.
"Honor is a smartphone brand majority owned by a state-owned enterprise controlled by the municipal government of Shenzhen. It was formerly owned by Huawei Technologies."
Great video😁. Will you be doing Honor Magic5 Pro anytime soon?
Nice video. Keep up the good work
It's just amazing the amount of work that goes behind the technology in these phones and thumbs up to Jerry for showing them to us.
Only thing with the spring designed hinge is that you don't have the multistage open position that you would get on a non spring loaded mechanism. Depends which you prefer
What you want to do with partial open?
@@MajidKhan-sm1cy prop up on a desk and split screen video playback and read comments etc, many multitasking activities
This is awesome, I can definitely see the magic! I can also see this new design being used for the future body of our A.I Masters.
Someone got so excited to see the internals that forgot to do the mohs scale test 😂 Keep up with the great work!
Good stuff. I really like the hinge design. It seems subtly genius
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I love how technology is constantly improving.
Meanwhile still f***ing hole punch camera ruining the display.
@@thenonexistinghero The latest Samsung Galaxy Z Folding phones has a way to hide the inside camera, and it's fine for video calls.
this is not improving, this is DOWNGRADE to the safety of th phone
@@thenonexistinghero say that to iPhones which still have wide ass notches
@@TSunderground Well, there's limited options to hide the camera in phones nowadays.
That annoyed "45 more screws" lol
I still have the LG V60. Its older but still my fav folding phone
i still have the first folding phone: the iPhone 6.
Big improvements were made seeing how the first only folded once
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Hahahahahha😅 good one
@@chrisaitan did you just compliment your own joke?
@@jonathanglesser7239 he did, I'd bet he also autoliked both their comments
@@chrisaitan you know what, love the self love!
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Jerry when will be Durability test for OnePlus 11? I can't wait that test to be honest!
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Way to go honor! Nicely done! Finally some innovation
Whoever watching my comment may God bless there family
Hey Zack just curious tho why you did not durability test the device first before you disassembled it :))
Yeah, good question.
He probably either did it before or has a 2nd one for that
Because it's a sponsored video.
that hinge is too cool to stay hidden in a phone. nice work.
Sad that this phone is not available in my country. I love my zfold4 but the gap gets a little too much pocket dust. Really nice phone Honor. Good job!
I would order one if it was waterproof rated. Folding flat makes a big difference in how solid it would feel.
I was eagerly waiting for a device from Honor to send you. Now a days people don't talk much about honor or Huawei. By doing this type of work it will be able to catch an eye of many new people.
If there wasn't the sound of metal scratching, I'd put your videos as sleep aid. Such a calming voice.
I have a Samsung Flip 4, incredibly cool phone. It really feels like the future. Hopefully they'll be able to make the bending area less noticeable in future iterations.
Can't wait for your durablity and teardown test on the Oneplus 11, I want to see if they have become the old oneplus everyone knew and loved!
Theyre not. they downgraded the phone in many regards. 1080p 30fps selfie cam, no wireless charging, no ip water resistance, and even the USB-C port downgraded from 3.1 to 2.0
OnePlus is settled
@@Yasyism they have settled after oneplus 7 series. That was their peak . Good battery, screen ,ports, software, cameras and it was still a lot cheaper than flagship phones.
When he said "down to 4" I just imagined a door hinge lol
nice work Jerry
Love the no gap hinge but I believe this will make the display more prone to scratches,
is bad both ways
I don't get why there is holepunch cameras on folding phones? They add cost but have 0 benefit. You can just unfold, turn around, and use the much better main camera as selfie cam.
obviously they are there so u can do video calls while unfolded with family and freinds
The main purpose of the inner front cameras are for video calls.
imo they should only have hold punch on the outside screen, for video call. The inside screen should be flawless for media consumption.
@@mobai123 you realise that no one wants to use a small, rectangular screen to do zoom calls, right?
@@Jaeeden "use a small, rectangular screen to do zoom calls" This is what 99% of people do right now, with their regular phone.
Sure having a bigger screen for video call is nice, but I would rather have a flawless screen for media consumption than having a hole on both screen for the exact same usage.
This man is the only reason I know anything about phones. Big shoutout to you my guy!
That hinge mechanism is actually such a cool design
Kinda forgot about this and that it probably comes to Eurpe too. An interesting Fold alternative. The inner screen could be 120hz instead of 90, but if the price is right, I'd probably get this over the Fold 4.
Jerry. How do you guard against review models?
More details: Review models are specifically constructed hardware meant for the review community. After the product is launched, the production model is slowly released. The review models are higher quality and more durable (more expensive to manufacture) whereas the production model has cheaper construction and cheaper components. The idea is this allows the company to have higher sales and profits by riding the wave of initial good reviews.
Source on this being a thing?
@@edde3244 Dang. I wasn't able to find sources.
I should then say this is a theory looking for more observation.
Either the practice of review models do take place as a business model, or they don't, and my observation could be explained away by other means like trying to keep product costs down despite inflation.
“When I say We, Because We are all together” - I was like, Nope… Not me 😂😂😂😂
Im usually not too OCD but that gap in the fold would drive me nuts!
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I'm becoming numb to the pain of watching you destroy expensive things I can't afford and, as always, great video. 👌🏾
That hinge is a genius idea.
That is something brilliantly engineered!
Also, this is the first foldable phone that I've actually wanted.
Now someone make one with a pen, and I'm in.
The Fold 3 and 4 both use a pen on the inside screens.
What a cool name from Honor!
The "V" signifies the Folding mechanisms of the device!
To be honest I heard it as "Magic BS" throughout the video and was like "who tf calls their phone Magic BS?", then I read the actual name
@@VDavid003 😂 me too 100% hahaha
@@VDavid003 LMAO me too, and to think it's called the *Honor magic bullsh*t...*
very cool to see how in dept the technology is for foldable phones these days. I'm still not convinced to switch from my S22 Ultra tho
Just starting watching your teardown videos. It Feels good when you destroy flagship phones which i can't afford to buy.
Keep up the good work ❤
Dang what are you glass are you scratching being up this early
It's evening here
Bored af
Thanks for always providing us with good stuff
I am happy to see that more companies are doing folding phones, I have the fold 3 and my next phone is going to be a foldable phone.
very nice big step in the right direction. sturdier and more refined. still a little bit to go though.
That hinge system is sweet!
love the teardowns, thankyou/ Lawson di Ransom Canyon