How To Use a 6 Pin Lishi Pick and Decoder (SC4, KW5, etc) On 5 Pin Locks! | Lishi Standoff Spacer
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Today we are going to check out a new product developed by Deviant Ollam the “Lishi Standoff Spacer.” These spacers are designed to make it so you can easily use a 6 pin Lishi on a 5 pin lock (for example SC4 on SC1).
Historically, I have never been able to recommend that you only buy the 6 pin version because it was just not as reliable. Today we will find out of that recommendation changes!
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Damn i just got a lishi off red team tools i had no idea they threw in that spacer. The spacer acting as shoulder honestly rocks! Great vid breaking it down.
Great video, it was very informative and I really enjoyed it!
Thank you for the kind words
Thanks for sharing this HLP. What a simple but clever idea.
Thanks for checking it out. I think it's a pretty cool idea as well
It’s not needed. Check this video out.
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
Very nice video 👏, very informative with a great demonstration. Thanks for taking the time to show such a nice addition for lishis. Take care my friend 🔐.
Thanks for checking it out! It's a fun new addition to the Lishi family
Good job
Thanks
What do you recommend for the European lock sporters?
I've actually used a KW5 and a KW1 lock and it works fine just backed it out one position I haven't tried the SC4 in an SC1 but I imagine it will Have the same results and work out fine. Great info and did not know about the 3D printable piece Awesome information my friend. I hope your classes are going well and everything in your life sir. Stay safe, well, and sane👍🦾
Thanks! I enjoy this new approach. I hope all is well with you
@@HelpfulLockPicker It is going well and if you're still interested in one of my challenge locks I will gladly build you one sir. You have been on my list for one but I want to make sure that you do want it. I know that you mentioned you really don't do challenge locks and if you do not want one that is fine with me I will not be heartbroken or upset that just means that's another one off the list.
I still pick when I can I've got a load of locks that have been sent to me that I need to go through but between work life and building CL's I have to do it in moderation a little bit here and there. Actually I'm about to go home and work on some pin ideas to add in some of my CL's that I will be putting together and sending out. I think it kind of like building challenge locks a little bit more than picking them.
@@j.gabriel8573 You don’t need a spacer or to back out the Lishi KW5 or SC4 in a 5 pin.
Insert the Lishi all the way in as normal, and instead of making the #1 pin useless, as when using the spacer, all you have to do is not pick the #6 pin.
Here is a link to BosnianBill’s use of it clearly. He’s not using a spacer or backing out the Lishi at all. Enjoy!
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
@@HelpfulLockPicker
What TYPE of Lishi to use for DAF turkish Cylinder single row 6 pins?
This:
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Hi I am a beginner, the locks you have shown are American , will the six pin Lishi style Yale 6B for a Euro locks be able to pick a 5 pin lock as in your excellent video.
Thank
Michael
Very cool stand off!!!😀
Will save money and that is a good thing😀
Stay safe my friend
🐾🐈🐈⬛🐾🇺🇸👏👏👏👏
Thanks Chris
Great video, as always! I've been using the kwikset 6pin Lishi tool on 5 pin locks with no problem and same with the schlage 6 pin on 5 pins, without any spacer because I didn't know there was one! Nevertheless, it seems like I've been successful opening 5 and 6 pin locks, almost every time! The American lock Lishi tool I'm not having great luck with but, I still can't pick American locks either! I'm hoping once I feel the tolerances while picking, I'll have much more success with the Lishi am tool! Any suggestions appreciated!
I feel the padlock ones are more difficult to use. For me, as long as it decodes the lock I'm happy
@@HelpfulLockPicker Hi Mr , can you please confirm if it works with CISA 285-84 ?
Hi Steve these picks are getting more than I would hope to pay so are you saying my 6 pin pick will be fine on a 5 pin lock with out the spacer ( I mean if I am already poor would you say the spacer is a waste of money ? and the money would be better put towards something like food etc ?) ? thank you for your response!!!
@@HelpfulLockPicker my question to you is based on what I have read the sc4 and kw5 will work in most locks? So it seems if I have limited space those are the 2 to get but may be I should also get the left version s in case it feels more natural to pick on the other side I would imagine it's the same thing a accept every things is on the other side? Thoughts please thank you
Hi gotten myself a NSN14, realise its kinda big for normal locks (i know its for a car lock)...
i am new to this lock picking hobby. And advice what to get?
For lishi stuff I would check out boredlockpicker and russej02 (same person)
so got a question for you if my frined got locked( out of house ) do you think it would be more easy on the budget if I am able to pick the lock get them in and they just install a new door knob? thoughts please thank you
It is cost effective to pick a lock and then make a key to it. There is usually not a need to replace the whole thing
Sorry to bother you but I have a question I’m trying to buy one but have no clue what to go with I need one for a rv/motor home camper door no idea what lock they are. United States what are one or two you recommend purchasing for me to try? thanks
Figure out what type of key the lock takes and take it from there. Wafer locks can be impression easily.
I was all excited for mine to arrive, it’s to thick for all my locks. Do you get a smaller one for padlocks etc?
You need to get one for each individual keyway
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you for your reply, appreciated. Can you please tell me which one would fit the standard size in U.K.? I was playing about with picking during the first lockdown, fancied trying these out. Thanks.
No need for spacer just start at the 2nd pin position works every time for me
Thank you for sharing your experience
that's assuming you have enough room in the lock to insert a 6-pin length Lishi tool without the tip hitting the rear side
Thanks for the great video! Your content has been super helpful. Do you know if a different length spacer is needed for the KW5 Lishi? or does this same spacer work for both? I've got some PETG ready to go, and the ender3V2 hot! thanks again!
I am not sure if I have tried if I am honest. Any luck on your end?
@@HelpfulLockPicker yeah I purchased a SC4 and KW5 and the same spacer does in fact work for both
@@letsdiyeverything8010 You don’t need any spacers Thomas. Just insert the Lishi KW5 or SC4 all the way in as normal.
With the spacer, you don’t pick #1 pin, but you pick 2-6 pins. Without a spacer, you basically do same, except you don’t pick pin 6, but you pick 1-5.
Don’t need spacer and don’t need to back out the tool either. Check this video out by BosnianBill that shows and explains it better.
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
got a new question for you is a left handed pick likely a waste of money I mean it seems that most lock turn clock wise is that correct thank you
It can be helpful out in the field for certain situations
hello, thank you so much, please i realy do not understand about many tolls of lishi, is it one lishy with your solution can unluck all locks ?
No he's basically demonstrating how you can use a 6 pin model to unlock the five pin locks as well using this spacer which basically stops the pick being too long but it still has to be the same keeway so for example an SC1 and SC4 you can use the SC4 to do the SC1 and the SC4.
Love your videos. Just so I'm clear, Kw 4 will do 6 pin, Kw4 with spacer will do 5 pin,Kw 1 will decode (but not pick) Kwikset Smartkey but Kw 5 will not, Sc 20 will do all Schlage keyways and MC 2/3 will pick Master padlocks but is not the best. It will decode an open one though. So would a KW4,KW1 with spacer,SC2 and Mc2/3 be a good mix? Thanks..Peter
Personally it is better to get the tool for the keyway. The spacers can be helpful but it is better to get the right tool for the right job
Awesome!!
I have a RUKO padlock/Assa Abloy which is the best one for that?
Neither. You need the exact Lishi for the keyway
I got 5 and 6 of both sc and kw. I figured might as well
Thank you for sharing
Hello, great video !! How do I know when a lock is a 6 pin or a 5 pin please? Is there a way of knowing before trying to pick them? Thanks
Not sure about Schlage locks, but with kwikset, u can tell it’s a 6 pin if there’s a square at the top of the key way (keyhole). If there’s no square it’s a 5 pin
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Thank you for the information. #Billingslocksmth
What model is used for "Ruko ASSA ABLOY" locks used in DK? 6 PINS
I don't think there is one made for that
hello, how can I order this key with 6 pins? send me the link too, in Europe
I wish they would of came out before I bought them lol. Hey can you get the Lockwood's Lishi?
Thanks for checking it out. I haven't checked out a Lockwood Lishi
@@HelpfulLockPicker well let me know if you can get one. I'll send you a money order then you can buy it and send it to me
Love your videos bro. I’d like to hear your opinion on the sc-1 vs sc-4 vs sc20.
SC1 is most practical. SC4 is more versatile but I don't like using on 5 pin locks. I haven't used an SC20. In theory having one that fits all the keyways would be ideal but I haven't had any chance to use one.
@@HelpfulLockPicker right on, lol yea, I got the SC20 recently and haven’t found one it won’t work on yet. (Granted I’ve only tried it in like three locks lol) Works great for my sparrows practice locks.
I can't get it in the key all the way in why
Can we use the pick in any door knob brand?
You need the specific Lishi tool for the specific profile of the lock. It is not universal
What picks would cover most door (home) encountered in America ?
Kwikset and Schlage are most common
When in the door not in vise. How do you tell the number of pins? In the field you also get crusty binded tight punning even with lock lube. People abuse thier locks and none open that easily.
You can count them with your pick
Can i use lishi for european cylinder, too ?
If you have a Lishi designed for the keyway
whats the diffrent bethven sc4 and kw5
They take a completely different key
Hi can this pick a grade 2 cylinder multi lock
This can pick the lock for which keyway it is designed for
Will these work on euro cylinders?
If your cylinder matches the keyway
HelpfulLockPicker to
I found that if you are using a 6 pin lishi in a 5 pin lock with the standoff spacer then you do not want to try and actuate it with the lishi once it's picked. If the hardware isn't smoothly working you can damage the base of the blade trying to turn it.
Thank you for sharing
@@HelpfulLockPicker can I buy a spacer since I do not have the ability to do a 3D printing. Never done that before and have no idea where to go get that done.
@@CarAngTube yes from red team tools
I print these.
Know where I can buy one that fits the KW5? Thanks in advance
Google Lishi and you can find their distributors
@@HelpfulLockPicker I think he was talking about the spacer. I was wondering the same thing... Does this spacer work for both the SC4 and the KW5 Lishis? or would I need a separate length spacer for the KW5 Lishi?
You don’t need any spacers. Just insert the Lishi KW5 or SC4 all the way in as normal.
With the spacer, you don’t pick #1 pin, but you pick 2-6 pins. Without a spacer, you basically do same, except you don’t pick pin 6, but you pick 1-5.
Don’t need spacer and don’t need to back out the tool either. Check this video out by BosnianBill that shows and explains it better.
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
Is there a way I can only buy one of these and use them to decode 90 percent of locks instead of having to buy one for each different type of lock company
No
What lishi work on master lock 5 pin padlocks
I think they only have the 4 pin currently
Can you lock it as well ? Not only unlock with Lishi?
Yes. You can pick bother clockwise and counter clockwise so you could do both
Hi where I can buy that spacer..? Thanks
Read the video description
I can't open any lock Even with this I'm so disappointed and frustrated. How much tension should i be using on this??? I can't tell if I'm using too much or too little ever please help😢😢😢😢
Where can I buy the spacer? Is there a link?
Yes, in video description
Where can u buy a spacer from pleas tell
Look up my video I did on the spacer and I believe there should be a link in that video
You don’t need any spacers. Just insert the Lishi KW5 or SC4 all the way in as normal.
With the spacer, you don’t pick #1 pin, but you pick 2-6 pins. Without a spacer, you basically do same, except you don’t pick pin 6, but you pick 1-5.
Don’t need spacer and don’t need to back out the tool either. Check this video out by BosnianBill that shows and explains it better.
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
so why not just not use the 6th în and use it as a normal 5 pin ? (i'm new to this lol)
Does it also work on European locks?
If you have the lishi to fit the keyway it would
There are basically hundreds of different keyways in Europe. There are not several hundreds of different Lishi Tools...
Hi there, can you please make a video on how to pick Euro Cylinder locks using a Lishi Tool? I dont know which tool to purchase for Euro Cylinder locks.
Thank you very much :).
You need the lishi tool for the specific keyway
@@HelpfulLockPicker So how do you find out which lishi tool you need for a specific keyway. Also, can a SC20 or SC4 fit in a standard 5 pin or 6 pin lock? :)
There are no Lishi Tools for euro-locks, as there are basically hundreds of different keyways in Europe.
You can relatively easy do this without a spacer, but it's a lot easier with a spacer, and will speed time up
Thank you for sharing
I WANT TO FIND A TOYOTA WIGO, RUSH, AVANZA DOOR Unlock Tool. PLEASE KNOW THE NAME OF TYPE OF LISHI? THANKS A LOT
Thanks for sharing
Will a lishi open euro cylenders
Lishi only opens the type of keyway which the tool is made for.
Are there any which would pick euro cylenders used in the UK.. thankyou
Why is my lishi tool small?
It would not make sense if it were larger.
"One Pick to " click " them all, One Pick to set them , One Pick to false set them all and in the darkness open them."
Thanks for sharing
Hi there, I wonder if you can help me. I work for a company that has hundreds of DAF lorries. So I brought a Lishi pick for the DAF lorry. The problem is all the lorry keys have teeth on both sides, whereas the Lishi pick looks like it is for keys with teeth on one side. We have lorries from all different years and all the keys are one-sided! Could you help me with this?
Ask Bored Lock Picker he is much better with Lishi
Think you use the cy24
Just start on 2
I use a 6pin without a spacer and it works just fine. I do not use any spacer at all. It is not neccessary!
I would buy both. That little adapter could be easily lost.
I prefer both but this is a reasonable option
@@HelpfulLockPicker Im more worried about more stress on the pick since you are not using the proper shoulder that is supposed to take all the stress of tension.
@@kracka117 You don’t need any spacers. Just insert the Lishi KW5 or SC4 all the way in as normal.
With the spacer, you don’t pick #1 pin, but you pick 2-6 pins. Without a spacer, you basically do same, except you don’t pick pin 6, but you pick 1-5.
Don’t need spacer and don’t need to back out the tool either. Check this video out by BosnianBill that shows and explains it better.
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
@Twobarpsi You don’t need any spacers Thomas. Just insert the Lishi KW5 or SC4 all the way in as normal.
With the spacer, you don’t pick #1 pin, but you pick 2-6 pins. Without a spacer, you basically do same, except you don’t pick pin 6, but you pick 1-5.
Don’t need spacer and don’t need to back out the tool either. Check this video out by BosnianBill that shows and explains it better.
th-cam.com/video/GXyutzYk2A4/w-d-xo.html
@@luislozano7947 thanks!👍
I have a lot of these already printed. let me know if u want one
Im only 30 seconds into the video and I’m already mad, WHO TF WAS A 3D printer laying around mf
i call fluke. for obvious reasons.. lol
Thanks for checking it out