huge respect to you guys for correcting a mistake like that! I actually bought a set of unions after your INITIAL review. I didn't buy them BECAUSE of your review but I did watch it and did not believe they could be so bad. the moment I put them on my bike and got a ride on them, I was immediately extremely impressed. they tracked super well, didn't get deflected super badly off small trail imperfections etc etc. the BEST thing about them is that I have thrown many many bike park days at them, shuttle laps, hundreds and hundreds on miles of pedaling and they have yet to require any attention from me. I HONESTLY think these wheels are the most reliable part of my bike at this point and i'm not joking about that. They are the only part I haven't had to give any TLC to in the last year or so
I am glad to see this review, as my experience with my set of We Are One was completely different than your previous review. I commented on that experience in your previous review (at length) and to see this new review and clarifying the reason for the poor review of the wheels, speaks greatly of you and your team. Great Job.
Appreciate it Mario! We do our best to be professionals as this is our job. Even if it is “just bike videos” but we know people save work hard and spend lots of money to enjoy their bikes and products so we take it seriously. We never like making mistakes but they happen. Thanks for sharing your opinion in both reviews!
I just ordered a set of these with the i9 hubs. Then searched for reviews on them and found this video. I am so glad I pulled the trigger on these. Outstanding review!
I've had the Unions on I9 Hydra for about 3 years now and they have been bullet proof! Hats off for correcting your mistake and that along just elevated your credibility!
I have a set of their TR280s laced up to some hydras and have no complaints. It's also a nice bonus that their customer service is top tier if you do have some sort of problem 👍
Are they nicer than aluminum rims? ABSOLUTELY. What you're really paying for is an AMAZING warranty. They truly help you out! I don't have an issue yet, more like a gouge in my rim which does not leak or cause any riding issues. They told me if this ever becomes a problem, I just have to pay shipping for a new rim OR I could even send mine in to be re-laced by We Are One and all I would have to do is ship my wheel over to them and pay for shipping back and a fee to re-lace. What more can you ask for?
I bought a set of WR1 wheels when Dustin first started out. They are the Agent rims with Onyx classic hubs. They have been hands down the best wheelset I have ever had. I have ridden them pretty hard and have had no issues. A few scratches but the rims look great for 4.5-5 years old. I just ordered a set of the new Convergent Rims with the Onyx Classic hubs for my new Firebird. Can't wait...
I am SO GLAD you made this. I was in the market for a pair of carbon wheels and saw your review. I was going to go with the Zipps and my cousin who has a pair of WRO could not believe what you guys where saying. I ended up going with WEO based on his rec and I was so blown away by them. I was wondering what happened. I am currently watching your reviews for my first EBike and wondered if my likes meshed with you guys and your reviews. Don't worry.....still a fan and glad you guys figured it our. P.S. . what is your opinion on the Transition Repeater?
I have the Union’s on my 2020 Canyon Spectral ON configured with CX Ray spokes and the new DT Swiss 350 hubs. Awesome setup! Thoroughly impressed with the strength and compliance of the wheels.
Email the guys at Weareone. They will get back to you immediately. Incredible customer service. Their wheelsets are awesome. I have the Union on two SC Nomads. One with Onyx and one with i9.
I have the Union wheelset with i9 on a SC Nomad and Onyx on another MTB. Incredible wheels made by a first class company with first class service. Their customer service is second to none. Email them and they will respond within 24 hrs or sooner. Call them and you get a real person that is stoked to help. Bonus is that they are hand made in Canada rather than mass produced in Taiwan or China.
Yes, they feel like a sponge but I am 6’6” 220lbs so maybe if you weigh less they will feel different? I would definitely try some out first before buying them. I love how they are silent but I think I would buy some 240’s next time.
I have a Union/strife mullet wheelset, the 27.5 strife is heavier than the 29 union. No Cushcore, ride them hard, they seem absolutely bomb proof. Love them.
I was debating if I ever get a pair if there was no reason why not to get Strifes or if Union was all I'd ever need on the trail. But also would Union be enough for a full size 40-50 pound ebike?
@@LastAphelion I would say the union would be fine out back too. But for the extra peace of mind I’d go the Strife, especially without inserts, WEA don’t recommend using inserts either.
My rear wheel broke on the second ride 20 days after I bought them. The warranty from the US is way more complicated than it sound, you have to break apart the wheel and send the hub to BC , the shipping needs to be domicile because it’s international and they won’t pay your import taxes in case there’s any. That shipping is expensive by the way , you pay for the lacing , the new spokes, the new nipples and the return shipping, after all you’ll pay about $200 to get the wheel rolling again. Because they broke before a month I ended up doing the return to the bike shop instead. The wheel felt nice until it broke. Just be aware if you in the US.
I have these rims with the Onyx hubs. Great wheels. NOT harsh. Also...my first set of carbon rims, and I wouldn't say worth $1600. They are certainly better than aluminum rims, but maybe not a mandatory upgrade. I'd rather have nice hubs and aluminum rims than crappy hubs with carbon rims. If cost is no option obviously both is better.
@@justind5262 I agree. I also think anyone with an ebike will eventually want to upgrade to a pair of carbon rims with lifetime no questions asked warranty. If you own an ebike you will definitely do more miles and do it faster and harder than you will ever do on a regular bike. I have started to go through a bunch of Aluminum rims on my ebikes and I am not a huge jumper either. I just go really really fast.
Yo, in the original video you clearly stated that you tried these wheels on various bikes to ensure it wasn’t the bike that was affecting the perception of the wheel performance. That is not what you’re stating in this video. Not sure how you can explain that. Sounds like WAO gave you guys a heavy call.
We did have these wheels on two bikes. But in the original video, we said, or should have across as, we tried two sets of wheels on the problematic bike (Norco Range). The bike got slightly better switching to DTs but that could of been an illusion as the culprit of our problem on the Range was a seized linkage bearing, causing an overly rough ride. We fixed the bike, new linkage, fresh rebuilt shock and threw the WAO's back on and it rode night and day different. What prompted are redux on these wheels was all the commenters feedback loving the WAO wheels. Had us second guessing everything, so we set out for more testing. We actually didn't talk to WAO until we the Arrival to test.
@@tomcarney654 Hey, noticed your hard tail question, I'm thinking of adding the unions to my rootdown. Did you purchase some? Like them in the HT? Cheers!
😭🤣😭 noooooooooooooo good lesson though to not just do something because of what someone else says is bad/good and to formulate your own experience and to act only on that
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My hat is off to you for being transparent and genuine as a journalist
Thank you
huge respect to you guys for correcting a mistake like that! I actually bought a set of unions after your INITIAL review. I didn't buy them BECAUSE of your review but I did watch it and did not believe they could be so bad. the moment I put them on my bike and got a ride on them, I was immediately extremely impressed. they tracked super well, didn't get deflected super badly off small trail imperfections etc etc. the BEST thing about them is that I have thrown many many bike park days at them, shuttle laps, hundreds and hundreds on miles of pedaling and they have yet to require any attention from me. I HONESTLY think these wheels are the most reliable part of my bike at this point and i'm not joking about that. They are the only part I haven't had to give any TLC to in the last year or so
I am glad to see this review, as my experience with my set of We Are One was completely different than your previous review. I commented on that experience in your previous review (at length) and to see this new review and clarifying the reason for the poor review of the wheels, speaks greatly of you and your team. Great Job.
Appreciate it Mario! We do our best to be professionals as this is our job. Even if it is “just bike videos” but we know people save work hard and spend lots of money to enjoy their bikes and products so we take it seriously. We never like making mistakes but they happen. Thanks for sharing your opinion in both reviews!
I just ordered a set of these with the i9 hubs. Then searched for reviews on them and found this video. I am so glad I pulled the trigger on these. Outstanding review!
I've had the Unions on I9 Hydra for about 3 years now and they have been bullet proof! Hats off for correcting your mistake and that along just elevated your credibility!
I have a set of their TR280s laced up to some hydras and have no complaints. It's also a nice bonus that their customer service is top tier if you do have some sort of problem 👍
Are they nicer than aluminum rims? ABSOLUTELY. What you're really paying for is an AMAZING warranty. They truly help you out! I don't have an issue yet, more like a gouge in my rim which does not leak or cause any riding issues. They told me if this ever becomes a problem, I just have to pay shipping for a new rim OR I could even send mine in to be re-laced by We Are One and all I would have to do is ship my wheel over to them and pay for shipping back and a fee to re-lace. What more can you ask for?
If you ever warranty them, I hope you get one that I built haha
yo tell em to make a 27.5" Sector rim...needed for all the mullet bikes these days@@BuffiestFluff
I bought a set of WR1 wheels when Dustin first started out. They are the Agent rims with Onyx classic hubs. They have been hands down the best wheelset I have ever had. I have ridden them pretty hard and have had no issues. A few scratches but the rims look great for 4.5-5 years old. I just ordered a set of the new Convergent Rims with the Onyx Classic hubs for my new Firebird. Can't wait...
Thanks for the info!
it's good to correct/update your reviews and it's also good to give bad reviews to products that fall short.
Thank you.
I am SO GLAD you made this. I was in the market for a pair of carbon wheels and saw your review. I was going to go with the Zipps and my cousin who has a pair of WRO could not believe what you guys where saying. I ended up going with WEO based on his rec and I was so blown away by them. I was wondering what happened. I am currently watching your reviews for my first EBike and wondered if my likes meshed with you guys and your reviews. Don't worry.....still a fan and glad you guys figured it our. P.S. . what is your opinion on the Transition Repeater?
Nice to see Lower Stagecoach/Side Action trail getting some love!!
For a 40-50 pound ebike do you think Unions are adequate or that Strife would be the safer option?
I have the Union’s on my 2020 Canyon Spectral ON configured with CX Ray spokes and the new DT Swiss 350 hubs. Awesome setup! Thoroughly impressed with the strength and compliance of the wheels.
Email the guys at Weareone. They will get back to you immediately. Incredible customer service. Their wheelsets are awesome. I have the Union on two SC Nomads. One with Onyx and one with i9.
I have the Union wheelset with i9 on a SC Nomad and Onyx on another MTB. Incredible wheels made by a first class company with first class service. Their customer service is second to none. Email them and they will respond within 24 hrs or sooner. Call them and you get a real person that is stoked to help. Bonus is that they are hand made in Canada rather than mass produced in Taiwan or China.
Question about the onyx hubs, have you or anyone ever experience slip on the engagement in the hub? Are the ceramic bearings worth the price?
We have not had that issue.
Yes, they feel like a sponge but I am 6’6” 220lbs so maybe if you weigh less they will feel different? I would definitely try some out first before buying them. I love how they are silent but I think I would buy some 240’s next time.
Excellent Vid Thanks 😎 I'm Getting a Set of Convergence Wheels With Berd Spokes For My CF Warden Next Season 😎
I have a Union/strife mullet wheelset, the 27.5 strife is heavier than the 29 union. No Cushcore, ride them hard, they seem absolutely bomb proof. Love them.
I was debating if I ever get a pair if there was no reason why not to get Strifes or if Union was all I'd ever need on the trail. But also would Union be enough for a full size 40-50 pound ebike?
@@LastAphelion I would say the union would be fine out back too. But for the extra peace of mind I’d go the Strife, especially without inserts, WEA don’t recommend using inserts either.
What you think of using the strife for bike park only as the warranty is better than at other company
Are they suitable for an e bike? Or would you go for aluminium rims
Email or call them, they'll give you better details. I've heard of lots being used, but I'd reach out to check.
My rear wheel broke on the second ride 20 days after I bought them. The warranty from the US is way more complicated than it sound, you have to break apart the wheel and send the hub to BC , the shipping needs to be domicile because it’s international and they won’t pay your import taxes in case there’s any. That shipping is expensive by the way , you pay for the lacing , the new spokes, the new nipples and the return shipping, after all you’ll pay about $200 to get the wheel rolling again. Because they broke before a month I ended up doing the return to the bike shop instead. The wheel felt nice until it broke. Just be aware if you in the US.
That is a bummer to hear Carlos. Thanks for sharing and will be sure to ask WAO about this on our next review.
I have these rims with the Onyx hubs. Great wheels. NOT harsh. Also...my first set of carbon rims, and I wouldn't say worth $1600. They are certainly better than aluminum rims, but maybe not a mandatory upgrade. I'd rather have nice hubs and aluminum rims than crappy hubs with carbon rims. If cost is no option obviously both is better.
I think if you are the type that ruins alot of rims, these start to become more appealing.
@@justind5262 I agree. I also think anyone with an ebike will eventually want to upgrade to a pair of carbon rims with lifetime no questions asked warranty. If you own an ebike you will definitely do more miles and do it faster and harder than you will ever do on a regular bike. I have started to go through a bunch of Aluminum rims on my ebikes and I am not a huge jumper either. I just go really really fast.
@@sgtkurry Do you think Unions are enough for an ebike or need Strife?
@@LastAphelion I use the unions on my rise and levo so I think they are more than fine unless you are going to try a ton of dh stuff.
Could you do a review on some budget friendly Chinese wheels like Elitewheels or Superteam for example?
Good to hear.
How do you like the vespers?
WOW! Impressive wheels!
Yo, in the original video you clearly stated that you tried these wheels on various bikes to ensure it wasn’t the bike that was affecting the perception of the wheel performance. That is not what you’re stating in this video. Not sure how you can explain that. Sounds like WAO gave you guys a heavy call.
We did have these wheels on two bikes. But in the original video, we said, or should have across as, we tried two sets of wheels on the problematic bike (Norco Range). The bike got slightly better switching to DTs but that could of been an illusion as the culprit of our problem on the Range was a seized linkage bearing, causing an overly rough ride. We fixed the bike, new linkage, fresh rebuilt shock and threw the WAO's back on and it rode night and day different.
What prompted are redux on these wheels was all the commenters feedback loving the WAO wheels. Had us second guessing everything, so we set out for more testing. We actually didn't talk to WAO until we the Arrival to test.
I ride a hardtail, do you think these would be a good choice. I have aluminum rims at this time .
I’d say so.
Thank you
@@tomcarney654 Hey, noticed your hard tail question, I'm thinking of adding the unions to my rootdown. Did you purchase some? Like them in the HT? Cheers!
@@walterbulten392 no I have not tried them , Iam still looking into rims for my bike . Sorry I could not be more help good luck
@@tomcarney654 ha ha, all good, thanks for responding! I actually just ordered some we are one hoops for my rootdown! So excited!
I sold my WAO unions cause of the previous video😂
😭🤣😭 noooooooooooooo
good lesson though to not just do something because of what someone else says is bad/good and to formulate your own experience and to act only on that
I canceled my order after watching your original review…
Sorry to hear that!
Just broke one the other day fuck carbon wheels
We just broke 3 alloy wheels last month soooo...triple f*#$ alloy wheels?