Playing Chicken Poker? Dare Your Opponents to BET!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
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In our latest video we dissect the concept of "5th Street Chicken" where the hero makes a calculated call, making it look like he has something and will likely call another bet. In essence he is challenging the opponent to bet again. This move is best for strong but non nut hands to dare your opponent to reveal the strength of their hand. If they fire another bet, it's a clear signal to reassess the value of your hand. When they choose to bet again when you look like you're planning to call again then logically their bluffing frequency should be much lower.
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0:00 - Intro
0:53 - Preflop
3:58 - Flop
5:43 - Turn
10:45 - River
13:57 - Hero Decision
14:06 - Reveal
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Bart playing 1/3 500$ cap is like Shaq playing against a bunch of kids on a 7' Hoop.
At 1/2 or 1/3, people like to make weird plays from time to time as well as bluffs or semi-bluffs here and there, sometimes it’s hard to figure some people out. But if you see someone make a bet after the flop and get RAISED at 1/2 or 1/3, it’s almost always a made hand using both hole cards that they are hungry to get value for and they will NEVER fold no matter how much strength you show afterwards, they will call it a cooler if they are beat even if it’s really them being a fish. Unless you know for sure they are a tricky player, If you fold everything less than the second nuts when you run into those situations you’ll be a winner in the long run even if you sometimes fold some winners to it. It may sound super nitty, but people just don’t bluff at those stakes when someone is already showing strength (much different than when nobody is).
Totally believe it could be QQ. See it all the time. Slow play, then a bad turn, then total panic and raise then.
Caller said geometric sizing at 1/2
BART, I’m so glad you talked about implementing a limp call/limp 3-bet/limp 3-bet bluff range from the SB when there is a button straddle. I live/play in FL and do this a lot. I feel so validated by you saying this, because it absolutely works for me, especially in these lower limit games.
Yeah another comment says he hates button straddles... Like anything in poker, you can adapt. There are ways to exploit tendencies in all game configurations.
@@blaqshiep4920 I do it because it’s effective at making money in my game. When players are doing more calling and not 3 betting enough I can just attack with the limp reraise very effectively. It’s also pretty fun too
fold and it’s not even close- at 1/2 large river bets are rarely a bluff
Rarely a bluff, but just because he's not bluffing doesn't mean he's nutted. At 1/2 it's common to see people overvalue their sets and two pairs - and villain did that here. An overbet like this should really be straight or nothing, but at 1/2 it's not always like that. And if he's willing to jam QQ here, you wonder how low he'd go. It could be as low as QJ where he's not bluffing, but believes he is very strong...So you can't call KJ against his value range. but you probably call 44 and JJ (neither player gets to the river with 77 here)
The hero is unblocking the Q's... I believe the villain...
The “but I mean if it’s 1/2 nobody is paying attention so alright so you go to 15” really got me😂😂
Yup that is exactly how they play here.
If the opponent was 90 years old I'd snap fold OTT if I didn't have the odds to draw to a boat.
And yes QQ is a call in South East Florida. We have a high hand promo and 85% of 1/2 players chase it. Frankly I am surprised he raised the turn. Usually they call down when the board straights or flushes in a hand like this. It is not uncommon for players to limp behind players with AA or KK.... or flat call a raise with players left to act with AA/KK knowing they will be getting at least 1-2 more players then just call down chasing the high hand.
The turn raise here in this situation with QQ is "I have a strong hand but I am afraid you have QT but I am stacking off anyways".
Welcome to South Florida.
Yeah a lot of plays in these loose games are - im repping the nuts with a middle strength hand and will stack off anyways
@@blaqshiep4920 Initially I thought that high hand chasers were bad for the game. But after I have been playing these games for years they are good for the game.
#1 they allow you to come in cheap.
#2 they allow you to see all 5 cards
#3 they can't fold their big pairs when you hit.
So overall you might lose a small pot here and there but when you hit you get paid.
Happened a few weeks ago where a guy limp called UTG my BUT raise with AA with others in the pot and I flopped a set with 88. He got it all in OTF. Where if he raised and I called he could have gotten away from the hand the way the board came.
@@blaqshiep4920 Once I saw a guy flat a raise with other people in the pot with AA then get felted twice within 20m for full stacks. Where if he 3b he would have won the pot preflop.
1-2 brings in some crazy hands that people don't 3 bet.
It’s so weird the min bet on the turn. If villain really wants to get paid off on the river he should be bettering more like 150 on turn.
I hope this guy knows the reason you play 1/2 is to escape 1/2. lol The rake is your mortal enemy at 1/2.
Unless you play in Portland where they can’t take a rake, they can only take a door fee, then you can smash at 1, 2 . People buy in for 400 to 1000 anyway
depending on a poker table. Many 1/2 are just excuses to start the hand and bring potential fish to the table. Then, btn straddle, 2 limpers, 1 raises to $25, 4 callers! 5x$25 = $125 on flop. Then, goes up quickly...C-bet to $50, 1 calls, a short stack ($115) all in, 1 call = $400 turn.
@@pyrok007Yeah I play 1-3 with a thousand dollar buy in in Portland semi-regularly. It most definitely doesn't play like a standard 1-3. Even the small game at most places in Portland are 1-2 400 buy in and people rebuy 4 or more times regularly. It is great.
Am i fish for snap calling in this spot?
It's even worse on the river than that because he could so easily have T9 given the small raise pre and the tiny bet flop.
If I play low stakes poker in Vegas with high hand promotions you will see a lot of calling or limping from promotion players with very strong hands such as pocket queens.
I had almost an identical hand to what Bart theorized about at the end.
1/2 at Mardi Gras in Nitro, WV
$400 effective
Hero opens KdKc to $10 in LJ. CO calls. BB calls
Flop: Ks8h9h
Cbet $15. CO calls. BB folds.
Turn: 7c. Hero bets $40. CO basically clicks it to $100. Hero calls
River: Qs. Hero checks. CO snap jams for a little over pot
I end up folding face up after about 45 seconds. Villain never showed but said he had Q9. Find that pretty hard to believe. Guy to my right said he plays with him all the time and is sure he was nutted. But I folded because I gave him all 16 combos of J10 because the table was very very loose passive. Also gave him 5h6h. This guy was super passive, had never seen him raise. But could’ve always been clicking buttons. I still think about this hand all the time lol
The snap jam is a dead giveaway, any non nutted hand would need a bit of time to think about what to do. Good fold, you are definitely a winning player. I am pretty sure im a small winner at 1/2 but i still want to better my game and eventually crush. My question is what benefit do you get from showing in this spot? I never showdown unless someone else calls my action completing bet in which case i show immediately. But im open to start showing bluffs/big folds etc if it gives me some sort of edge and i can completely understand the reasoning behind it.
@@filthyrat2181showing is definitely not a +EV move. It’s a super exploitable fold, so in theory I shouldn’t be showing. I was traveling from out of town so knew I’d never see those people again and thought it’d be fun to show such a big lay down. If I was at my home casino I would almost never show unless it was a fun, talkative table
Wait did he say the button doesn't get last action, but then say the SB is first to act preflop so the button is last?
yeah.
At 1/2 especially this casino… people rarely 3 bet…. KK AA Maybe AK suited… most of time they’ll just call with anything else… not surprised at all… I’ve have to adjust when i go down to the 1/2 for this reason 🤷♂️🤷♂️
1 2 player here. I've definitely bluffed with 10 10 in this scenario
Check call turn… check call river 😁 Villian shows AA, QJ, or AJhh
I don’t think he had J,4 of diamonds lol
You didn't get a "reveal" 😅
At $1/$2 you’re not gonna see a whole lot of 3 betting unless it’s Ace’s shoot even KK they ain’t 3 betting 😂 not unless it’s a stack gonna put all in for not much more
Is it just me, or is this like the 3rd straight video that was a repeat?
I think you are watching the stream live. Bart does not re-post hand videos.
in low stakes, when you bet small, they read that as a weak hand. Then, they try to exploit it when IP. Get out of that position asap. V can have here anything: from missed draws to a straight. All depending on his profile and H table midge. Against LAG I'd snap call. Against a good player if I am TAG, I'd snap fold. Everyone else: just sigh fold.
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on turn raise...What I do in that situation: I assess V hand, and if result is he might be full of crap, I jam. Otherwise, I fold and never look back.
Why do people engage in this myth weaving and story telling? You're just trading fantasies. You folded, which is good.
BART don’t say “people at 1/2 aren’t paying attention to stuff like that” some people are, they just don’t have the money for higher stakes…..
90% of people are not paying attention.
Bart is not wrong
Betting this flop big is nothing but a terrible advice.
What makes you say that?
Why? You have the best hand the vast majority of time and there's a massive amount of worse hands that are continuing (JT, AJ, AT, any hh hand, KT, K9, some Qx and just random nonsense cause they're bad) even to a big size.
I think caller Cbet too small here and Bart is betting too big about $30
Into $45 is better
@@michaelphan6228 A. We have just one pair. B. The flop is very dynamic and therefore the top pair is very likely not the best hand anymore on the river. C. We are out of position and it's tough to realize our equity. D. We are multiway.
It is a terrible mistake to inflate the pot in this spot since there are too many cards we don't want to see on the turn. Small bet on the flop to keep the lead and control the pot size. Pot sized bet or even an overbet when the turn is a blank.
I hate BTN straddles. So annoying and action killing
Uh action killing? That’s just not true, I’ve seen people reraise in 1 2 games to 50 bucks and still get 7 callers starting out with just a 4 dollar button straddle.
Come to Texas 😂 Playing a 1/3 300 cap the other day that opening raise was $25 when there was a button straddle.
@@pyrok007Yes button straddle kills action because at low stakes the players in the blinds tend to VPIP extremely high, but when button straddle is on they fold much more. Someone raising large over the straddle in later position doesn't mean that the button straddle didn't kill action by getting the blinds to fold
@@markwinchester5434 if the pot gets huge and there are multiple players in the hand, then that is action, are you sure you understand the word “action “in poker terms?
@@coygreathouse1211 when SB with BTN strudel, you don't want to open anything less than $25.