#28 Christianity and Unknowing: Richard Rohr
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From the SAND Archives, we present two talks from Christian Mystic Richard Rohr from two SAND Conferences recorded before a live studio audience. The two talks are entitled “Christianity and Unknowing” from SAND16 and “The Christian Meaning Of Enlightenment” from SAND11. Richard Rohr, as a Catholic priest and Franciscan Friar, offers a concise history of how Western Christianity once had, soon lost, tried to retrieve, and now is roundly rediscovering its own traditional understanding of unitive consciousness (which was our word for non-dual thinking).
The Christian contemplative mind was usually a subtext, and yet it was always clearly there too, and much closer to the surface, but only for those exposed to the mystical base that was revealed in the Gospel of John, the Desert Fathers and Mothers, the Celtic and monastic traditions, and what was generally referred to as the apophatic or wisdom stream of Christianity. These were our many saints and mystics. This possibility was brought to the fore by Thomas Merton in the middle of the last century, and is now flowing in many positive directions.
It is now our task to rediscover the pre-Enlightenment Christianity that reveled in "the cloud of unknowing", what some called "learned ignorance", and the very notion of Mystery itself. Only when we got into competition with rationalism and secularism, did we adopt this rather recent mania for certitude and a very limited kind of scientific knowing.
Almost the entire history of Protestantism emerged in this period, and thus the contemplative mind is an utterly new revelation for them, and frankly for all of us, as we again learn to be comfortable living on the edge of both the knowable and the unknown.
Fr. Richard Rohr is a globally recognized ecumenical teacher bearing witness to the universal awakening within Christian mysticism and the Perennial Tradition. He is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Fr. Richard’s teaching is grounded in the Franciscan alternative orthodoxy-practices of contemplation and self-emptying, expressing itself in radical compassion, particularly for the socially marginalized. Fr. Richard is the author of numerous books, including Everything Belongs, Adam’s Return, The Naked Now, Breathing Under Water, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond, and Eager to Love: The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi.
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Richard Rohr's book "The Universal Christ" was referred to me for reading by a chaplain visiting my husband while he was in Hospice. I will be forever grateful to this chaplain. Thanks to Richard Rohr and his alternative theology, I have finally found a God that I know is love and a God I can love. Carolyn Clark
Richard Bohr is a breath of fresh air, he speaks to the heart of what those of us in Christian tradition need to hear in order to awaken our spirit. Thank you for your courage to follow this path Richard, and thank you SANDs for providing his talk. 🤗🙏
Like decades old manure...
Rev. Rohr is a gem. He speaks of the universal religion, the true communion with God, who is All and Everything. 2000 years of hierarchical organised churchianity has not blinded his divine vision. Namaskar.
He’s the only thing that has saved and enriched my faith
O my God This man has giving me the hope that Catholic Church can be saved.
Yikes! The problem is the mind. The church uses mind to look at everything. Who needs that?
It should NOT be saved. It should change.
I was introduced to Fr. Rohr in the late 1980s by a priest who freely admitted to skating on thin doctrinal ice (God bless him!) by way of loaning to me a series of cassette tapes from his personal collection. It was a season of WOW! and YES! Unfortunately, that priest was eventually “transferred”, and it’s been a rough ride ever since. Thank goodness for the technology that brings Fr. Rohr back to us ... especially those of us who can’t afford his books ☺️
But is that a good thing?
Hare krishna 🌼🙏🏻🇮🇳
Wonderful ,genuine spirituality.
I love Father Richard!
WOW! Thankyou.
Thank you so much❤❤❤
His retreat is near me. Love him. Wonderful talk. I have sat Zen w several Christians. ❤
How nice to be close to his retreat ❤
I feel like he has helped alot of damaged catholics
helping them to look at things differently.
S.I.N.
Self imposed nonsense 😏
Love & Light 💛
@@peacelovejoy8786What do you mean by Self Imposed Nonsense?
@@cherylmburton5577
The only sin we commit is to believe that we are separated from God, but it leads to all other negative, destructive and inappropriate behavior.
It's nonsense because we are never separate from God🙏🌟
ACIM 😍
@@peacelovejoy8786 I think the majority of humans know or sense instinctively that there is a separation between them and God. Many of them do not discover until later in life that the demonic system of this world had taken advantage of the situation in the same way that it was claimed to be caused by original sin. History, even secular does validate that human illness began at this time. Matthew Fox does point out a crucial problem that humanity has in battling the world demonic system, and that is that we are not United in focusing on "Original Blessing" but the majority are focused on "Original Sin".
@@peacelovejoy8786 inappropriate behaviour? I think I know what you mean, but could you please clarify?
Richard has met me with spiritual, bread and wine,
And draw me into more and ever increasing love
And closeness
Wonderful!
Despite my biases, my mother was always flowing in love. She had no theology.
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I wish I could flow! That’s my goal
Unified consciousness is nature❤❤❤❤❤
Blown Away! Amen.
I dont always agree with this man, but, that said, I also revere him as I do no other teacher. And I'm a protestant.
Great history lesson
Having just survived (Catholic) Holy Week, my ears are still ringing with “you killed Jesus and every time you sin, you kill him again”... including a hardline hellfire quote from St. Francis.
Meanwhile it’s all Catechism for adult Catholics and being told to get out there and evangelize. “Obligations” and Indulgences. Filling pews for Mother Church. HOW did we end up back here? [2023]
Real Christianity
“Gods Will Be Done” on earth as it is in Heaven. God will give you Everything you Need and Deliver you from evil. Can’t ask for more! 😊❤
Fr Richard mentions "Zeus" during and then at the end of the first program. I was just looking in the NABRE Bible in the book of Daniel at the same time, and a ftnte for 11:37 says that "Tammuz" is the god being referred to in that verse, when it says "The one in whom women took delight", and then said that "Antiochus " favored "Zeus". In the book of Ezekiel, YHWH shows him how the people are making Him jealous in Ch 8 the men and women are worshiping gods such as Tammuz in v14 the women were weeping for this god because they believed that it would leave them in the late Spring or the fourth month of the year. This is also in the NABRE ftnte for Ezekiel 8:14
Just heard of him from a guest on Jeff mara show
thankyou thankyou
so this -
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Across the years
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Flowers of the
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eclipse
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What does the guy in the audience say at 23:44? I can't make it out.
This is such a great talk. The audience is laughing a lot which is fine but also getting on my nerves. I guess I’m not utilizing nondualistic thinking 😅
😂😂😳
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he is almost on the right track but you need to go back even further in time. Jesus makes sense if you study the 3 baskets of Buddhism. The Resurrection is the same as the Buddhist transfer of consciousness. The Golden Rule is the basis of Buddhist Ethics. Knowledge of good and evil, saying or thinking some things God said were good are bad eliminates the All Good of the Garden of Eden. Gratitude brings the Garde of Eden into your own life.
🕊🌎🕊🕊sharing🫂
Luv rohr but relativism and pluralism are self-refuting and illogical (also see presentism) ✌️
Beware of deceivement! At the end of time, lots and lots will say "Have I not did this and that...?!"
You will also say that.
Have I not done good works to save MY soul? There are a lot of people busy being “good Christians” out of fear. They’re easy to spot because they *do not love*
It’s all about them.
He Caters to the Gay community and slams Tradition .. NOT GOOD
This is so false
Then what is true?
This guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing. RUN
Correct!
Would you say the same of St John of the Cross, Julian of Norwich, St. Catherine of Sienna, "The Cloud of Unknowing", and all the many others who have practiced quietness of mind? Does it not say in the Bible: "Be Still"? Isn't God's Peace beyond the human mind (passeth all understanding)?
Paranoid-ass comment
@@PeterOzanne Well said! It's so simple. Just stop and notice that I am! I am not this or that. I just am. Stillness itself. Thoughts and all attachments appears in this still space. You are not what you think you are, but stillness itself.
@@coenterhaar9183 Yes. I just heard a talk about this by Adyashanti that I found inspiring. He's a very good teacher, and an ordinary guy. "The Paradox of Unity and Spiritual Autonomy" - but it's more than that. On TH-cam.
This guy makes me so sad with his universalist (ie NOT Christian) rhetoric. God will judge him for leading so many astray from the true gospel.