The BEST N64 Games? Majora's Mask vs Paper Mario vs Star Fox 64 - Madness

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    Welcome to Episode 8 of Madness! We're trying to decide not only what are the best N64 games, but which is THE best game on the Nintendo 64. In this episode it's Majora's Mask vs Paper Mario vs Star Fox 64, but who will win?
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  • @DidYouKnowGamin
    @DidYouKnowGamin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +907

    Correction: Tingle enslaved multiple siblings.

    • @cian2168
      @cian2168 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Tingle is an absolute madlad.

    • @hfoster2001
      @hfoster2001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      DidYouKnowGaming? Tingle will enslave us all

    • @Rude_door
      @Rude_door 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually, Ankle is the only brother who does any work. Knuckle left home because he was mad at Tingle, and David Jr. isn't related.

    • @Connordore
      @Connordore 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ruddor32 DYKG VS Ruddor32... FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

    • @jpage94gaming
      @jpage94gaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DidYouKnowGaming? I agreed with you my guy. You and Jared overall I’ve agreed with most throughout these brackets.

  • @PeanutButterGamer
    @PeanutButterGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +913

    How are these in the losers bracket?! HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!?

    • @PeanutButterGamer
      @PeanutButterGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@PeanutButterGamer IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT YOU SHOULD HAVE DEFENDED THEM BETTER! *SHAME ON YOU* PEANUT BUTTER GUY!

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      On a serious note... Why is the format 3 games in the losers bracket?

    • @kGb1783
      @kGb1783 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Because of Jared’s backwards logic

    • @Joshua-tn6rs
      @Joshua-tn6rs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I blame Jared...he is too wishy washy...he even said Majoras is a better game than Ocarina but still voted for Ocarina.

  • @Toxic-Pyro
    @Toxic-Pyro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    If Majora Mask’s loses PBG will lose it

    • @ganondorf66
      @ganondorf66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      me too
      Edit: Jirard you magnificent beardy boy

    • @linkishthefrogking282
      @linkishthefrogking282 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was so expecting Jerard to pick Starfox. And his decision made me literally jump for joy.

    • @calumbishop7082
      @calumbishop7082 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean Star Fox is a fantastic game in its own right, and I am actually surprised as I thought he and Jared would vote for it after the arguments they made. Paper Mario is a great game also. But of the three Majora's Mask is the best.
      Although if this wins the losers bracket and Ocarina of Time wins the Winner's Bracket I will call Zelda bias.

    • @tomo_tc8049
      @tomo_tc8049 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true

    • @raphi2837
      @raphi2837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here

  • @einoboe9998
    @einoboe9998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +445

    I hope Majoras mask doesn't lose, so that PBG doesn't murder everyone in cold blood

    • @josephhawkins7974
      @josephhawkins7974 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      That wouldn't be cold blood, it would be a justified mercy killing. Lol

    • @chacethechaotic2910
      @chacethechaotic2910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No murder today

    • @mitomidou
      @mitomidou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you saying he might have gone Vault 77 on them? Oh snap. :o

    • @travismcnasty4239
      @travismcnasty4239 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Crime of passion" is when someone snaps and kills people.
      "Cold blooded murder" is when you plan it out ahead of time. You buy poison and a ticket to the opera, or some shit.

  • @shouldabeenapodcast8754
    @shouldabeenapodcast8754 6 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    ProJared: Have you played Paper Mario? 𝐈𝐭'𝐬 𝐃𝐨𝐩𝐞.
    Well, pack it in bois, I'm sold.

  • @RockhopperRio
    @RockhopperRio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Jared: “Majora’s Mask is just a rehash!”
    ...
    I’m okay with this.
    I’m okay with this.
    I’m okay with this.
    .......
    *_I’M NOT OKAY WITH THIS._*

    • @erikasakura7721
      @erikasakura7721 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to agree with Jared on that one, what is my only nitpick about Majora's Mask is that characters who have just been recycled from Ocarina of Time are not the same characters as in Ocarina of Time, they don't have the same personality, the same story. They're different characters with the same appearance and that annoys me. It's like Sonic and the Black Knight, or Secret Rings. They could've made new character designs, but stuck with the well known sonic characters designs for characters who are completely different. That's what makes it look like Majora's Mask might've been too rushed.

    • @chinmay2910
      @chinmay2910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@erikasakura7721 The reason why they had to use the same characters was nkt because they were lazy, it was because of the one year deadline Nintendo put on the devolopment of the GAME. MM was supposed to be a remake of OOT for the Disc Drive, but Eiji Aunoma felt this wasn't right and when he told bout his problems, nintendo told that he would be able to make a new game, but he would have to make it within a year. Watch the DYKG episode of MM.

    • @erikasakura7721
      @erikasakura7721 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their problem for accepting something like that.

    • @chinmay2910
      @chinmay2910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erikasakura7721 how is it there problem?

  • @mr.p241
    @mr.p241 6 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    In my opinion, Paper Mario's characters were two dimensional.

    • @swittyguy2973
      @swittyguy2973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      LOOK GUYS, HE GOT THE JOKE

    • @Segtend0
      @Segtend0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      GOOD JOKE FAM. 10/10

    • @thisisfyne
      @thisisfyne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bravo, bravo!

    • @RyanChaos.0
      @RyanChaos.0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Rathacast r/wooosh

    • @Wheaty03
      @Wheaty03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Rathacast r/wooosh

  • @MusicJunkie37
    @MusicJunkie37 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Jared: "This game is better but which one is the better N64 game?" Me: *Dead*

    • @AndroidHarris
      @AndroidHarris 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the difference?

    • @mottower
      @mottower 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Andrew Harris I would assume that would mean maximizing 64s potential and limits while having a lasting effect on the industry as a whole

    • @MrServantRider
      @MrServantRider 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I sort of get what they mean, and they're doing it for the sake of being objective. Unfortunately, it's not only a bad way to put it, but it's also not the best way to judge a game. You should just judge the games as they are not 'as N64 games' but as games in general.

    • @mottower
      @mottower 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MrServantRider
      It HAS to be by "as a N64" that is the whole premise. If you try to define it as a general game goldeneye would be considered shit even though it is an impactful game.
      Also the gang tends to refer back to "which is a better game in general" but keep pushing the "better N64 standpoint" that's why this loser bracket has majora, starfox, etc. despite being legendary games.

    • @AndroidHarris
      @AndroidHarris 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mottower see... I don't get it. If goldeneye is terrible how does being on the N64 make it better.

  • @thesleepyrose92
    @thesleepyrose92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I was making all the same facial expressions as PBG throughout this video

  • @papinstephen
    @papinstephen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    For Jared's point of quotes "you've meet with a terrible fate haven't you?"

    • @KyleEvans09
      @KyleEvans09 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that from Majora’s mask?

    • @papinstephen
      @papinstephen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KyleEvans09 yes

  • @EliasAxelViking
    @EliasAxelViking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    You should do a strawpoll in every video to see if the audience agree or disagree with you. Then show us in the next video what we thought.

    • @TheSpudThing
      @TheSpudThing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They do the first part on Twitter.

    • @DUHRIZEO
      @DUHRIZEO 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Elias this is a great idea. Content for the show and and easy way to include the audience. Depending on their recording schedule either shown in following episodes or maybe a comparison in the finale.

    • @Arkatox
      @Arkatox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They do a poll on Twitter after every episode. Paper Mario DESTROYED GoldenEye. It made me so happy.

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well they should do it on TH-cam as well since I and many others don't have Twitter.

    • @diaared7947
      @diaared7947 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

  • @Wolfkaosaun
    @Wolfkaosaun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    GO MAJORA'S MASK
    And if it doesn't win, we may see the next Madness episode with like 2 people after PBG *LOSES IT*

    • @RevengeoftheKing
      @RevengeoftheKing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Puhbagoo

    • @Arkatox
      @Arkatox 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Predictably, it won.
      My vote was still wholly for Paper Mario.

    • @VelvetAura
      @VelvetAura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arkatox I don't know if you could say it predictably won. There were a ton of curveballs thrown in this episode and I genuinely thought StarFox was going to win instead.

    • @Arkatox
      @Arkatox 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... I predicted it...
      :P

  • @Attempt62
    @Attempt62 6 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Oh frick this IS madness

  • @HiMyNameIsAlex_Music
    @HiMyNameIsAlex_Music 6 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    9:30 Music degree here: Majora's Mask is the best
    Its music is not only far more diverse than PM or SF, but it utilizes and evolves its themes more adeptly. The Song of Healing *(which I did a screamy cover of because I love it so much)* is one of the most beautiful, useful themes in a video game. It shows up in different situations throughout the game, but always manages to fit with what's going on, and conveys (somehow) longing, sadness, and hope all at once.
    It, like OoT, uses 5 notes mapped to the N64 controller to involve the player in the game's music instead of just having it be passive in the background. I really wish Zelda games would bring that interactivity back.
    And just think of how many different genres are represented here! The Jungle Cruise, Woodfall, the Deku Palace, Clock Town, the Gerudo Fortress, etc. Koji Kondo absolutely killed it with this game.
    Star Fox is good, but limited and samey. Paper Mario is great, but doesn't have anywhere near the range of MM.

    • @braxinIV
      @braxinIV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A person of culture and honor, hear hear!

    • @WeeklyMusicalShitposts
      @WeeklyMusicalShitposts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love MM but I gotta disagree here. Compared to other N64 games and other Zelda games, MM's music just isn't hummable or memorable like some of Nintendo's best. Yes, the ocarina songs are easy to remember because you have to in order to use them, but I've 100% completed that game probably a dozen times and I can't hum you anything from the 4 main dungeons or their surrounding areas (excluding stone tower).

    • @HiMyNameIsAlex_Music
      @HiMyNameIsAlex_Music 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@WeeklyMusicalShitposts while "hummability" is definitely nice, Majora's Mask crafts an _atmosphere_ with music instead of just catchy melodies. But those melodies are still there, you just may not remember them personally ;)
      For the past 18 years, I've been humming The Deku Palace, Stone Tower, Clock Town, The Milk Bar, Song of Healing, Oath to Order, Elegy of Emptiness, Jungle Cruise, and even the Snowhead Temple theme.

    • @ThiefSakon
      @ThiefSakon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Alex! The raaaaaaaange, dudes, the range.

    • @danielwilliams7161
      @danielwilliams7161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The song of healing alone was what made me interested in studying music.

  • @Cozy90X
    @Cozy90X 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Man i genuinely look forward to these every day.

    • @Connordore
      @Connordore 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad they only come out on Tuesdays and Thursdays

    • @sparklymop
      @sparklymop 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saaaaaaaaaaame.

    • @sparklymop
      @sparklymop 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tuesdays and Wednesdays

    • @Random-yg1fi
      @Random-yg1fi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But it’s Thursday

    • @brycelinnarz6185
      @brycelinnarz6185 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @AbramPlaysMC
    @AbramPlaysMC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It’s kinda cool seeing some awesome Normal Boots guys get together and just... talk. It’s oddly relaxing.

  • @vanquish5023
    @vanquish5023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I think the argument against MM about it not being as popular back during the N64 days could be used against Paper Mario. When the 64 was in its heyday people were talking about Goldeneye, Zelda, Star Fox, Mario 64, etc. I never heard anyone say a thing about Paper Mario.

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which was a big point for star fox

    • @L33PL4Y
      @L33PL4Y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Paper Mario also came out right near the console's death, so by that time most people had already moved on from the 64 to other things. It wasn't the game's fault, it was simply bad timing.

  • @sethtaft7061
    @sethtaft7061 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Lol "Star Fox Adventures is a pretty solid mid-tier Zelda game"

    • @exiled5160
      @exiled5160 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SFA is literally trash... it's so bad

  • @ambiguous_chameleon
    @ambiguous_chameleon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:17 I would say "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?" is pretty iconic in Majora's Mask.

  • @ForrestFurst
    @ForrestFurst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Shoot, they're right behind me!!

    • @golgarisoul
      @golgarisoul 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You made the right choice.

    • @jayvessel3444
      @jayvessel3444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "THIS THING WILL NEVER HOLD TOGETHER!"

    • @numetalmarkchavez24
      @numetalmarkchavez24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's too hot! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

    • @foxskirata
      @foxskirata 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU! Everybody talks shit about Starfox Adventures for being a bad Starfox game, and that may be true. But you know what else it is? A not-half-bad Zelda game!

    • @aarohibhavsar1520
      @aarohibhavsar1520 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Furst!

  • @majoraswrath8316
    @majoraswrath8316 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright Jared, MM has PLENTY of iconic lines, most notably, oh, I don't know, "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?" and "Dawn of the Final Day."

  • @PleasantLeech
    @PleasantLeech 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    How can you say Majora's mask doesn't have memorable quotes Jared?! You've met with a terrible fate haven't you?

    • @mattm2975
      @mattm2975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr. That's one of the most iconic quotes in the entire Zelda franchise.

    • @kristophernekula5151
      @kristophernekula5151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Name another one

    • @nightshade2573
      @nightshade2573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I was saying

  • @GentlemanGamer94
    @GentlemanGamer94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Gotta love how the sad, beautiful music of Nier Automata kicks in as soon as Jared lays down the gauntlet and 'disses' Majora's Mask by saying it's a rehash :)

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which just totally destroys his credibility. Yes, it reuses the character models and non-boss enemies and a lot of the objects, but the game's structure, plot, characters and tone are all different from Ocarina... Twilight Princess is a lot closer to being a rehash of Ocarina than Majora is...

    • @MrServantRider
      @MrServantRider 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, Jared's argument of it being a rehash makes him sound like he doesn't know what he's talking about. Then again, I'm pretty sure he was just being a dick for the sake of being funny and to 'help' his case lmao

    • @GentlemanGamer94
      @GentlemanGamer94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrServantRider I'm pretty sure that's it. :) Plus in an argument with friends, sometimes it's fun to play the devil's advocate and make a point just to get a reaction out of your friends. Not the nicest thing to do, but funny. :)

  • @Hylianguy38
    @Hylianguy38 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I vote for Majora’s Mask.

  • @captainluke562
    @captainluke562 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tension throughout this entire video was building to the last moment when I fell in love in with Furst for his vote.

  • @pixelheadphones6722
    @pixelheadphones6722 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was so rooting for majoras mask and when it seemed like Austin was the only one going for it I thought all hope was lost! But even with Austin’s poor defending majoras mask still won and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time

  • @gayle-annrumsby1243
    @gayle-annrumsby1243 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This episode feels like having to choose my favourite out of 3 of my children. It's just so hard!

  • @jazzy4222
    @jazzy4222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This felt so tense lol, love it c:

  • @ericfelds6291
    @ericfelds6291 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These guys are mind-blowingly skilled at articulating a game’s strengths and weaknesses. It’s like seeing a bunch of drunk philosophy professors in a room argue about the existence of free will...only with video games

  • @liamfoskett5220
    @liamfoskett5220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    I swear to god if Majoras Mask loses

    • @linkishthefrogking282
      @linkishthefrogking282 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It should have won against Ocarina.

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no. ocarina definitely deserves its spot.

    • @OmegaSpecs
      @OmegaSpecs 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      PlayPod i gotta admit, majoras mask is my favorite zelda game, but ocarina foes deserve the spot im not gonna lie

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't like the way that they bring up the expansion pack as a potential downside for Majora's Mask. It shouldn't even be considered, because that's an external circumstance. Whatever you need to play the game doesn't matter because they should only focus on the game itself. The story, the characters, the world, the music, the gameplay itself, etc.
      The required add-on shouldn't be counted as a minus for the experience of the game.
      Also, they shouldn't have counted the length of time it took a game to become popular, because again, that doesn't change the game itself.

  • @pippogriffthegreat7003
    @pippogriffthegreat7003 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The closeup of Jirard at the beginning was a clear indication of how this episode’s air would feel 😂😂😂

  • @barretwallace9806
    @barretwallace9806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is a treat seeing some of my favorite dudes interact with eachother

  • @MackCasual
    @MackCasual 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “If you suck at the game.” Jared is a savage lol

  • @GentlemanGamer94
    @GentlemanGamer94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    For the record- and the comments are probably gonna slam me for this- but IMHO.... I prefer Star Fox Assault to 64 generally. I dunno, the game play feels better to me there- even if I don't care for the on foot segments as much- and the visuals and soundtrack are just nicer all around. :)
    Now...*raises shield* please don't hurt me internet. o_o

    • @SamWeltzin
      @SamWeltzin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Right there with you. I'm not sure it's a BETTER game, but it's more interesting and was a good stepping stone for the series, rough and unbalanced as it was. Being able to swap between foot, Arwing, and Landmaster as needed for the situation was a brilliant idea Nintendo did nothing with. Hone that and combine it with the ability to change characters like in Command, and I think you'd have a far superior StarFox game to anything that came before.

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Assault is criminally underrated.

    • @GentlemanGamer94
      @GentlemanGamer94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THIS: I want this so hard now that you bring up the idea. Being able to switch between playstyles on the fly and characters over the course of an adventure? That sounds so exciting, and a great way to make something actually better than 64 :)
      And yes, I'm with you regarding your former point: I think objectively 64 is the better game, but subjectively Assault just is more interesting and enjoyable.
      ...Which is weird; 64 was the first video game I remember ever playing, so it's odd to me that I'm not as fond nostalgic about that as some others are.

    • @SamWeltzin
      @SamWeltzin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      StarFox is a series full of unexplored or poorly executed good ideas.
      I want to know what happened with Cerinia and why Krystal has telepathic powers. I want to know how magic and technology would coexist in this sci-fi universe (since Sauria very clearly has magic, and apparently so did Cerinia). I'd love to see how Wolf and Fox got to know each other or why Pigma betrayed James and Peppy (and if there was another team member who maybe didn't make it since StarFox typically has four members). Would've loved to see what led Andross to his madness in a non-Zero way. And that's just story stuff.
      I'd also love to see more team-based gameplay since the game is named after the team, not Fox McCloud. Command and 2 did okay with that, but I'd like to see that kind of thing done in the middle of missions, combining an RTS format and Arwing piloting, or maybe a Musou format where you can tactically change your character on the fly to protect or take key areas.
      Like, there's so much they can do with the series that they just haven't done because "Muh 64." XD

    • @GentlemanGamer94
      @GentlemanGamer94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that's what I love and hate about Star Fox. It has so much potential gameplay and narratively; this is a character based sci-fi setting with fantasy elements as well as futuristic technology. I've enjoyed what they've done.... but it's capable of so much more! I like 64, but the series has so much potential to grow if they actually change things up: Metroid is a good example of doing this with Prime and it working out :)

  • @knoqturne6811
    @knoqturne6811 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been in the Paper Mario camp the whole way, and I'm sad to see it defeated. However, I respect the victors. This was definitely a rough round. Frankly, if someone new hears about Paper Mario and decides to try it out, that's another chance for someone to fall in love with it, so it's a win in the long run.

  • @DreamDaddie
    @DreamDaddie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    i love the other two, but Majora is the best of the three

    • @Arkatox
      @Arkatox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love the other two, but Paper Mario is the best of the three. :)

    • @godking9077
      @godking9077 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the other two, but Star Fox 64 is the best of the three. ;)

    • @defectivesickle5643
      @defectivesickle5643 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the other three, but Super Mario Brothers 2 is the best.

    • @Mufflin
      @Mufflin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arkatox FALSE!

    • @Arkatox
      @Arkatox 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mawiah Fox Wait, why was I the one you selected, of everyone here?

  • @danielash8099
    @danielash8099 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iconic line from Majoras Mask, “You’ve met with a terrible fate, haven’t you?”

  • @bigbrisk8423
    @bigbrisk8423 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Swear if majoras mask dosent win ima be so rattled

    • @bigbrisk8423
      @bigbrisk8423 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You've met with a terrible fate majoras mask

    • @shyguy139
      @shyguy139 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know you from somewhere.....

    • @bigbrisk8423
      @bigbrisk8423 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xbox, ontario, or youtube comments?

    • @bigbrisk8423
      @bigbrisk8423 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or England I went there for 6 months too in high school

  • @scarythepirate3601
    @scarythepirate3601 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ending line was savage and hilarious.
    Loving this series. Good group of men.

  • @RevolverLink
    @RevolverLink 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When your two absolute favorite N64 games (Majora's Mask, Paper Mario) get stuck in the same part of the loser's bracket. >_

  • @AquaTwist_
    @AquaTwist_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great series, but I have some suggestions to make it even better in the future:
    1) Number the episodes. It would make it easier to know which one I’m on if it’s more organized.
    2) Set some ground rules. As mentioned by commenters from this series, the way games were judged upon was inconsistent. Is this tournament about being the better game, or the better N64 game? Games have advanced for both of these reasons when it should be one or the other.
    I hope this advice helps!

  • @kirbytheartist3318
    @kirbytheartist3318 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love Paper Mario 64 :)

  • @minty-2909
    @minty-2909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:30 I cannot exaggerate how much i appreciate the inclusion of dj cutman's remix of Besaid. God i love Besaid so much

  • @sparepartssparepartsempori519
    @sparepartssparepartsempori519 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jared has gone full on cheeky bastard and I love it!

  • @themidnightotaku22
    @themidnightotaku22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I don’t have a button for stfu”
    -ProJared, 2018

  • @Meechree
    @Meechree 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not really sure why they're talking about quotes making a game good...
    And the answer is so clearly Majora's Mask 🤷‍♂️
    Also, I have a degree in music, and some of my favourite video game music came from Majora's Mask. The Astral Observatory theme was my alarm tone for years (now it's the fairy fountain), and the Great Bay temple has a severely underrated theme.

    • @Meechree
      @Meechree 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One last thing to get off my chest... They keep talking and emphasising "Which is the better *N64* game?!" and then they talk about marketing and external hardware like rumble packs... I'm sorry, but to me, that doesn't have anything to do with how good the game itself is 🙄

  • @omegadragonrider4482
    @omegadragonrider4482 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Majora’s VS. Smash! That’s gonna be crazy, I can’t wait! Keep up the good work guys!

  • @alisaud7102
    @alisaud7102 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so happy with that result

  • @Infectionform
    @Infectionform 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Majora's Mask has the weakest soundtrack"
    I exclaimed "WHAT!" so loudly I got looks from my co-workers.

    • @sweetwheatsy
      @sweetwheatsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "oh yeah, I got to the calamity, heard the bells and the sweeping, melancholic synths, and it didn't affect me one bit! Not one teeny bit!"

  • @audiblescott8873
    @audiblescott8873 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I cuss, you cuss, we all cuss, FRICK YOU PROJARED (is a joke, love you Jared)

  • @PragmatikReviews
    @PragmatikReviews 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad they brought up Majora's character development in this!

  • @abyssbun444
    @abyssbun444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Nier music plays in the background.

    • @danielwilliams7161
      @danielwilliams7161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The beat ruined it though...

    • @subhanmahmood6580
      @subhanmahmood6580 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just tried to tune out the beat and tried to just listen to the original song.

    • @Bebrop
      @Bebrop 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And persona 5 is the first track. "Beneath the mask"

    • @joerittmeyer4490
      @joerittmeyer4490 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just started playing Nier automata and persona 5, i thought i was having de ja vu.

    • @Starkride48
      @Starkride48 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Persona 5 - Nier - Final Fantasy X, doesn't get better than that

  • @NeoCarnage
    @NeoCarnage 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Line from Majora's Mask to "iconisize" it: “You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?”

  • @TheEccentricMage
    @TheEccentricMage 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love this series

  • @joshkbai
    @joshkbai 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor PBG. I love the dramatic close ups whenever Jared refused to acknowledge Majora's Mask though. So damn funny.

  • @ChrisTrenary
    @ChrisTrenary 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Paper Mario for life.

  • @mcknackus4721
    @mcknackus4721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maaaaan I was so hoping Paper Mario would get it's time in the lime-light but I knew it was up against tough competition. This was a really interesting one because Majora's Mask had something the other two games didn't: Emotional impact, so while Paper Mario was the most original and aged the best, and Star Fox was the most impactful and nostalgic, Majora's Mask won by making a more emotional impression. Great video, great games, great lineup.

  • @warhammer1104
    @warhammer1104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really like this series :D

  • @Cosmironic
    @Cosmironic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of all the Madness episodes, this was the one that had me emotionally invested the most. Great job, I love this show!

  • @OsricRexor
    @OsricRexor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Flexing those pecks at 02:42 😎

  • @secretstash5
    @secretstash5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since I have a music degree and you've asked us to weigh in, I have to mention that I learned to recognize the sound of multiple scales from their use in the N64 Zelda games. Using Saria's Song to identify Lydian got me through my 1st year ear training classes. Fun fact: the Ocarina of Time is tuned to a Dm6 chord.

  • @golgarisoul
    @golgarisoul 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    *There will be blood.*

  • @captainloser6237
    @captainloser6237 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say one memorable quote from Majora's Mask
    "You shouldn't have done that"
    "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
    "To die without leaving a corpse, that is the way of us Garo"
    "Believe in your strengths"
    And those were just off the top of my head.

  • @jacklfitz
    @jacklfitz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Majora Mask is best.

  • @finnmoyer7816
    @finnmoyer7816 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:38 "Did any if that really stick, though?" that made me think of paper Mario: sticker star lol

  • @Chase64Cubed
    @Chase64Cubed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Well Majora is the best N64 game ever so.........

    • @sparklymop
      @sparklymop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imma have to agree with you 100%

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its subjective. i don't think it is.

    • @Chase64Cubed
      @Chase64Cubed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PlayPod Well ya. This whole debate is no matter what anyone says. It's all in good fun.

    • @acat3387
      @acat3387 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wouldnt shock me to see them somehow pick smash over mm because of the "play with friends nonsense" but really it should just be zelda vs zelda round 2 in the finals.

    • @Idunnoyouguessit
      @Idunnoyouguessit 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      After Sin and Punishment

  • @ShonkySquad
    @ShonkySquad 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK the GOOD LORD. I was so worried for so long that [The Winner] wouldn't come out on top here!

  • @frozenaorta
    @frozenaorta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Am I that far off base in thinking that Star Fox 64 is hands down the most iconic game here? These guys ALL at one point made the argument that this tourney is for the "best N64 game," not just the best game. Star Fox 64 is the most iconic game of its franchise. Thousand Year Door is easily the tops for Paper Mario, and Majora's Mask just doesn't hold up as well as these other two. All good games, but PM and MM earned cult status a bit later...SF64 helped define the N64.

    • @frozenaorta
      @frozenaorta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Edit: Oh good, Jirard at the very least acknowledges this glaring point.

    • @frozenaorta
      @frozenaorta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay Edit again: Note to self, watch entire video before commenting on the opening statements. All of what I just said got dragged out of them as the debate went on. Well done, gang.

    • @WeeklyMusicalShitposts
      @WeeklyMusicalShitposts 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Majora's Mask was only less iconic because it was in the shadow of Ocarina of Time. It was a personal emotional journey of the town vs. the epic hero's journey across time, and the second best Zelda game can easily still be one of the best games on the platform. StarFox 64 is only the best game in the series because they never tried to do anything else (besides command/assault which were poorly planned and marketed).

    • @danielwilliams7161
      @danielwilliams7161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, you're not wrong. I never even played Starfox 64 and despite loving MM, I think I would have to agree that it was the better N64 game. Paper Mario is good, but I think Thousand Year Door one-ups it in every way.

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      it doesn't matter the reason. it was still less iconic.

  • @cherrylk4188
    @cherrylk4188 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:57 I love that moment of genuine confusion PBG had

  • @thencsmaster4343
    @thencsmaster4343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn right! Majora's Mask is the best N64 game bar none!

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      subjective.

    • @chillplayer1234
      @chillplayer1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheNCSmaster No it's not.

  • @elhobo9376
    @elhobo9376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where was the Tuesday madness good sirs? I love this show!!

  • @wikthedik4065
    @wikthedik4065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    If majoras mask doesnt win I am going to LOSE IT

  • @BreakRoomArcade
    @BreakRoomArcade 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite match-up yet. I was so engaged in the conversation. I found myself changing votes several times throughout because of you guys. Love it! Can't wait to see how it all ends.

  • @Syngrafer
    @Syngrafer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Please let Jirard win for once.

  • @unchallengedmediocrity7886
    @unchallengedmediocrity7886 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the best Madness videos yet! I loved the beginning with Jirard just torn up, and Austin freaking out at Jared! Nice job, you guys! 👍

  • @IceSwagBiscuits
    @IceSwagBiscuits 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are some of THE BEST N64 games.
    How on earth are they in a "losers" bracket?
    Also, Tingle confirmed sociopath.
    I never got into Starfox and it DEFINITELY should not beat Majora or Paper Mario.
    Nobody I knew even knew who Fox was.

    • @sirus804
      @sirus804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ocarina of Time beat MM, Goldeneye beat Paper Mario, Banjo Kazooie beat Starfox 64, Super Mario 64 beat Mario kart 64, Pokemon Snap beat Diddy Kong Racing (really confused on that one), and Mario Party 2 beat Smash Bros (also confused).

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      All 12 games that started are contenders for "best N64 game". Of the 6 I've played, (Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Goldeneye, Banjo Kazooie, Super Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64), the only one I'd argue might not belong there is Banjo Kazooie - I think Tooie is a better game (having replayed them both on my N64 in the last couple of months) - it's the second half of the game, and, while it's not perfect, it builds on the first half well, and just plain not having to get all 100 notes in a level in one go is a huge improvement right there...

    • @sirus804
      @sirus804 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      rmsgrey - Couldn't the same argument be said about Majora's Mask? I personally liked Banjo Kazooie better and OoT better. That's just me. Also, you never played Starfox or Smash?!

  • @leightonpetty4817
    @leightonpetty4817 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do want to say outright: Majora’s Mask is _filled to the brim_ with iconic lines, and they just brushed over it like Paper Mario

  • @diegog1853
    @diegog1853 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm glad star fox 64 didn't win, or at least not for the arguments they were using.
    In my opinion the impact of the game is overall irrelevant to the debate of which is the better n64 game.

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      impact is definitively a big point more impact means better game. if it influences other people to make a game to that caliber then it shows its a good game.

    • @chrisrichfield8906
      @chrisrichfield8906 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      then what is relevant? StarFox was probably the most graphically advanced for its time of the 3. It also has more memorable sound design than Majoras Mask (considering most of it was just ripped from OoT so its not really its own design) and most Mario games in general have similar sound design. Gameplay holds up better too because Paper Mario is super easy and Majoras Mask is confusing and frustrating. Also keep in mind Paper Mario and Majora's Mask both didn't come out until 2000, when everyone was switching over to PS2.

    • @diegog1853
      @diegog1853 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PlayPodOG i wouldn't say that impact means a better game. Because the impact depends a lot in the context surrounding the game. For example, mario kart 64 was more impactful than diddy kong racing or even some other mario kart games, wii, 7, 8. And its not better than any of those.
      Final fantasy 7 is arguably the most impactful of the franchise, because it was the first rpg for a lot of americans. But many fans would debate that its not the best in the series, the title often being disputed between 6 and 9.
      If we are talking about impact, then there is no way smash should've lost against mario party 2.

    • @diegog1853
      @diegog1853 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisrichfield8906 i don't know about graphically advanced, majoras mask has some awesome looks and it has more expansive scenarios, it needed the expansion pack for a reason, and paper mario is arguably the only n64 game that holds up to this day, due to its art style. And i don't think thats accidental, they applied the same "make the look timeless" philosophy when developing wind waker.
      But yeah any of those arguemnts you've mentioned are more relevant than the impact of the game.
      How the game looks like, how it sounds, which game is more fun to play, better story, etc etc.
      Don't get me wrong, star fox is an awesome game for all the reasons they've mention, i just don't think how relevant the game was to the industry should be an argument, or at least not the main argument.

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is a lot of factors to put in. no one said impact is the only thing but it is a good thing to look at. like between mario party and smah. i personally think smash should have won but both games were impactful for their own reasons. smash redefining the fighting genre and mario party being the only fun board game style game on console at the time. no other game did what either of them did. in this scenario star fox was the only game that made a heavy impact on the industry as where the other 2 really didn't so it is a good thing to point out.

  • @TheUndeadMew
    @TheUndeadMew 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This way the most roller coaster of an episode yet.

  • @theresastarmanwaitinginthe5149
    @theresastarmanwaitinginthe5149 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Again, these thumbnails.

    • @biggie_mac
      @biggie_mac 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a starman waiting in the sky What about them??

    • @mottower
      @mottower 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even speedwagon is afraid

  • @Wulvaine
    @Wulvaine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of these three, Jared and Shane were right at the beginning: Paper Mario is the best of the pack. EASILY. Don't @ me.

  • @MatchaTea124
    @MatchaTea124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    90% of these comments are about major's mask and pbg

    • @exiled5160
      @exiled5160 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      including yours lol

  • @StB992
    @StB992 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 7:18 , one quote for Majora Mask... "You have met with a terrible fate, haven't you?" haha

  • @Pix3l_Pr1ncess
    @Pix3l_Pr1ncess 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great discussion guys!

    • @martinwhite8974
      @martinwhite8974 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hey there

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There's no way you have had the time to watch the entire video. It was uploaded 9 minutes ago and it's 20 minutes long.

    • @qwerp3
      @qwerp3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MusicJunkie37 She doesn't watch the video in full. She clicks on the video, comments a bland comment then leaves.

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@qwerp3 Yeah I'm noticing that unfortunately. Why though?

    • @qwerp3
      @qwerp3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MusicJunkie37 Gives her more views on her channel.

  • @Sporkmo
    @Sporkmo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have been less disappointed in a Star Fox upset than MM winning. As much as I love all three, this just means another OoT/MM match in the final

  • @sullygroot924
    @sullygroot924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly I don't really like majoras mask

    • @patu8010
      @patu8010 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you like Zelda games in general?

    • @sullygroot924
      @sullygroot924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@patu8010 yes, one of my absolute favorite games is windwaker, I have a i have a triforce tattoo, and I've beaten almost every zelda game multiple times, I just think majoras mask is the weakest of the series

  • @laeeg7412
    @laeeg7412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing Majora's Mask coming from behind and barely winning this round is in true spirit of what Majora's Mask is all about. I almost cried.

    • @laeeg7412
      @laeeg7412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I will listen to a 10-hour loop of the Giant's theme. Too bad there's only two songs in the game JARED!

  • @Anetaeus
    @Anetaeus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've really been enjoying this. My favorite gaming channels discussing games from my favorite era. This is a good one!

  • @jseeker1867
    @jseeker1867 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jirard and Austin getting triggered by Jared and Shane is the funniest moment in the whole series so far.

  • @R2D93
    @R2D93 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please don’t stop making this series. Ever. Do it for all Nintendo consoles. Forever.

  • @M3L4M4R
    @M3L4M4R 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I think Starfox Adventures is a pretty solid mid-tier Zelda game," Lee throws in really quick before cutting out to the endslate... Well done, my dude

  • @HeyLetsDoAThing
    @HeyLetsDoAThing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, Paper Mario got the short end of the stick again. They didn't even talk about how Peach was used in the game, or all the badges, and the polish and how timeless it is other than some small commentary about how the art style holds up to. It's just a better game and one of the all-time best quintessential N64 games

  • @jhorkey626
    @jhorkey626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Besaid Island theme song playing in the background, love it!

  • @mattmatt4023
    @mattmatt4023 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:22 for majora's mask "You've met with a terrible fate haven't you?"

  • @ZachtheRobot
    @ZachtheRobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:29 PBG “And there was never a good Star Fox game again”
    Star Fox: Assault “AM I A JOKE TO YOU!!!”

  • @merpo2806
    @merpo2806 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Let's talk about the first game that made me cry" "StarFox 64", I just died.

  • @jerppursh7570
    @jerppursh7570 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:57
    Austin's reaction is *priceless* to me.

  • @jakfrost25
    @jakfrost25 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was getting as riled up as PBG during that. You need an iconic quote from Majora’s Mask? You’ve met with a terrible fate, REMEMBER?!?! Weak music? What? Bossthemefinalbossthememayor’smeetingthemeSTONETOWERTEMPLEikanacanyon/castlesongofhealingdekupalacepiratesfortress.......
    **sound of distant door slamming in a furious rage**

  • @WilliamHasMelted
    @WilliamHasMelted 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both PBG and I breathed a sigh of relief after Jirard said "Majora's Mask"

  • @ProphitDesigns
    @ProphitDesigns 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Majora's Mask = Rehashed
    Starfox 64 = The one that started multiple rehashes