I ordered a 2019 M240i in December 2018 and will be picking it up tomorrow. Estoril Blue with Black leather and all the boxes ticked. Loved the car when I test drove it with my wife and she loved it too. We also compared to an M2, and didn't like the jounce in the suspension on rough roads; also preferred to get xDrive so that's what we went with. Smoother suspension, all wheel drive, brilliant engine, etc. We are very excited to pick it up tomorrow in Monterey, California. Thanks to reviewers like you who helped us get pointed in this direction.
Jump ahead, got a 2018 M240i XDrive with 4k miles for under $40k. Damn near every option. AMAZING machine. Was planning on the next gen Subaru STi, but I got this cheaper and it is literally twice the car. 0-60 in 4.2 and you feel every bit of it. The heated steering wheel is actually grand. M exhaust and all. Snap, crackle, and pop. Hands down an incredible deal.
I've had the M240i for a couple of weeks now and absolutely love it. About $10,000 less then the M2 in the ZF8 configuration vice the M2 DCT. Was on a couple of M2 waiting lists for a number of months with no allocations to be found. Test drove the M240i and was sold. Couldn't give a shit that it's not a "real" M car, this car is a blast to drive and a great daily driver as well. Bite me haters.
At this point the main difference is that the M2 will hold their value more than the m240i. But if you don't care about the devaluation, the 240i is a great deal
Im hoping to test drive this car on Saturday and the M2 with a fellow youtuber on Sunday. Both in manual form as the guy im meeting has the manual M2. So it will be interesting to see how these machines compare. Love them both but i do think the M2 looks astounding
i bought the m235 about 9 months ago, i love it! Had lots of different bmw's from the early 90's and the engine is probably the best engine i have ever had in any bmw. It has been put together so well that you dont even realise that there is a turbo, there is no turbo lag whatsoever. The m235 engine was also tuned very very well. Its slower only by a margin then the m2 but from 160kph it starts to leave the m2 all the way to the governor at 250. Really a fantastic bmw! my ONLY ONLY wish was to get it in the nicer leather option that the m4's and the other more expensive cars come with. I went to see the m240 now and the difference is mariginal, all you get is extra sat nav and some stitching on the seats. The engine performance is pretty much the same. Besides, with a bmw performance chip, the m235 goes to 382bhp which is faster then the m2... Anyways, i love my car :)
I got mine in may :) and I'm also in love with it, I don't really wanna chip it coz tbh, I don't feel it needs it hehe but that is only me. Mine is gray with red leather interiors. It is really fun to drive!
@@IYIagiix lol bro, im in the UK and im looking for one. Insurance here is £800 (over $1000). Ur lucky! Great car tho just trying to find one in my perfect spec
I just recently got my 2017 m240 for 33k with 28k miles and insurance with State Farm isn’t even $200 but then again I have all my coverages with them haha... I wish you luck on your search it’s such a fun car!!!
I have owned an M240i For 3 month and cleared 3000 miles and this car is amazing honest! problem being you need to find more road!! its so fast rediculas
Hi there, I really watch your channel for a while already and I find it one of the best there is when it comes to experience a little bit from almost all interesting cars that market has to offer. I live in Toronto Canada and I'm the happy owner of 2017 BMW M240i xdrive coupe. I have the car 9 month already and it's a fantastic car really. Initially I was on a waiting list for an M2 but a changed my mind but no regrets. Your driving reviews helped me allot to choose this model and everything you did say about it proved to be true. Thanks and keep doing it. Best
I ordered one today.. metallic black with 19 inch jet black wheels and loads of options... this is my dream car since the day has been released and only now, few days before the end of production, I bought one... I HAD to try this last 6 cylinder and this wonderful RWD.
ClubMicrobio in Italy I pay 1900€ a year... it is a really expensive car to be honest, a person with a medium wage will have some troubles in maintaining it
Drove this car and 230i for test the same day. Both are fantastic. The m240i seems actually too powerful, if that makes sense. Never drove the M2 but assume it’s insanely good. I actually preferred the 230i when considering overall package, price, performance etc. in sport mode the acceleration in the 4 cyl is just fantastic, plenty of power. 2 series is really great, beautiful cars.
The dilemma is that while one would normally want the M2 over the M240i, the M2 still uses the N55 engine which will be obsolete in the near future. The M240i doesn't have the body or handling of the M2, but that B58 is such a beast that it makes you feel like you didn't get the full package if you got the M2. So for anyone in the market, pick the M240i for the B58 engine & pick the M2 if you want the track handling & aggressive styling. BMW already said there is no engine change for the base M2 in LCI so for. those that can't get over not having an advanced tuned version of the B58, wait for the next Gen.
I'll go with the M240i purely because I won't be using it on a race track and for everyday driving it beats the M2. On the roads of Great Britain you'll be battered and bruised driving a car with stiff suspension so just on that it's a no brainer - the M240i.
I just put my deposit down on an M240i mostly for the price. In Canada the M2 is about 15,000 dollars more and I'd only get to use the difference in performance about two or three times a year. Mine is an x-drive in grey and it will take about three months to get here. I'm currently driving a big ford pickup ( because of work ) so this should be a sweet sweet change. Good God I can hardly wait.
Have seen both your 230i and now this POV review of the M240i. I too have driven both here in the U.S. with the ZF 8 speed AT. When I configured them similarly...M-Sport, Premium & Track Package (for the 230) price difference is ~ $4,000. I like the lighter, more nimble driving feel of the 230i, its lower price to purchase and insure. But will admit, the strong and smooth acceleration of the M240 is addictive. Logic tells me 230i; emotion sometimes says M240i. Very difficult decision...appreciate your reviews. Am always thankful for U.S. vehicle pricing relative to Europe!
Rick Talbot I bought a 230 I with the m sport package but no track handling package rear wheel drive. I love it but wonder if I should of purchased an m240. I never test drove one. my 230i was driven by one of the salesman thus 4000 miles on it. Sticker was 46000 and I got it for 39000
I'd go 240i. I live in Rochester, New York and drive to Buffalo a lot. I need that xDrive. Also like the engine and daily drive feel. If I were to get a pure real wheel drive sports car like the m2 my first choice is a Corvette. About the same price as the M2 here.
I'm in Bogota, Colombia. Thinking in getting one from the local dealer. Thank you for the review, I will keep you posted when I get to do the test drive here in South America. ;)
great video / for me its m 240 / reasons why looks great asanly fast/ 369 lb ft torque is brutal amount , love the gearbox , just a great performance package , not many cars will keep up with this
Great car, but 'better' depends on what criteria you are judging it by. It might be the better car for a daily driver. The M2 looks better, sounds better, is faster, much better steering feedback, better cornering ability, has a better interior, and will hold it's value higher when used because it's a proper M car and not just a 'pretend M'.
Had my M240i for just over a month. What a car. My previous car was a tuned VW Scirocco R, and before that a tuned mk6 Golf GTI. They were both great cars, and pretty fast, but the M240i is a whole new level of enjoyment with the sweet howl of the 6 cylinder engine and RWD. But it is also a very comfortable cruiser in comfort mode, with the excellent Harmon Kardon optional audio. I'm taking it to a track day in February to test it out.
Still today I love to watch this video. It was helping me to make my decision to buy an 2018 M240i, which I ve ordered in December 2017. I use it for daily ride to my work. Today I cracked already the 100.000 k barrier ... and the car ist still making such an amazing fun to drive like from the 1st day 😎👍
@@zblazek2 Of course, a pleasure to give you some information... The average consumption from a mix of 40% normal road, 50% Autobahn and around 10% inner city traffic is 8,7 l/100 kilo. Due to that I m living in the Rhein Main area near Frankfurt the daily jam traffic allows in majority only a speed level around 75 km/h in average. But outside of rush hour I m throughout able to speed up to 260 km/h .... which is going very quick due to the amazing torque of this engine, means overall its also an amazing low level of fuel consumption for such a powerful car ... If I m going only in normal regular speed mode I achieved also around 8,0 l/kilo ! This is not to compete by any other car in this power class. ...and for the time being (currently I have passed 113.000 km) I had no single one issue with this engine. I keep strictly all the maintanance rules ! The only point where I m deviating of the BMW recommendations ... I change engine oil and filter every 15.000 km ... and not awaiting the regular 30.000 distance.
Test drove both the M2 and the M240i. Yeah this has 30 HP less and is lighter. But honestly you do feel the superiority of the M2 after driving it. I drove the M2 first then jumped into the M240i and honestly the difference was huge. But then again, for the money, the M240i is pretty good. I'm most likely gonna get the 2019 version in a few months cuz M2 is expensive :D
I have the the 2015 M135 with xDrive and I drove the M2.. I totally agree with you. For daily driving the M2 is harsh. And with the snow on the way, the xdrive is superb! I love the engine, the ZF and the red leather!
Brilliant review, i might just buy one - actually found out that it has a better power to weight ratio than the M2 and of course with the M2 there is a waiting list and for me who'd buy 2nd hand i'd have to wait a year or so.....
USA Washington, DC Metropolitan Area - just bought an M240i xdrive 2018 convertible in estoril blue & black Dakota leather interior 0-60 mph in 4.2 (you can shift gears yourself or use the paddles - not a manual though). Absolutely love it!!! IMG_1931.HEIC
Enjoyed the video, I'm thinking of getting a M240i--I like the fact its M power and speed without the cost In Canada a M24i Xdrive starts a $50,000 and the M2 is $16,000 more.
I just sold my M2 and bought an M240i, my friends raised an eyebrow and didn't understand why But after I explained to them that in daily driving in the city the M2 is simply not built for it - you hear every noise and the vehicle is more bouncy - I certainly was not comfortable with it since I live and work in the city. The advantage of the m2 is in turns or on the track because the vehicle is more stable I am much happier with the M240i but for some people who want to take the car to the track the M2 will suit them better.
I live in NY, USA. Prefer the 235/240i as my next car. M2 is about $10k more, and of course it doesn’t have x drive, which I want because we have snow and serious winters here. I think you cannot go wrong with any 2 series, even the base model is very sporty and performs far beyond what you would expect from a smaller 4 cyl engine when in sport mode. The sport seat package should be considered mandatory and makes a very big difference, they are far more comfortable and cooler lookin*than the regular seats. BMW for the win, again!
Only on a straight road, which requires no skill. On a twisty undulating road, your car could have 600bhp and it still wouldn't see which way the M2 went. I know this 100%, I owned an M140i for 4 years, running 455bhp/634nm, and I now have a standard OG M2. Remap the M2 and put a larger intercooler on, and it will be over 400bhp anyway.
Just got my 2017 dark gray black interior convertible m240i. Man love this sexy beast! It looks clean but yet un assuming. Flew out to Denver to visit my bro driving this crappy Nissan rental lol! Can’t wait to drive up next time in the Convertible!
I'm pretty sure, you can adjust the RPM of the launch control, using the cruise control "lever" on the left hand side of the steering wheel, while launch control is active.
Live in Sweden. Would have the M2! All you need to spec on your M2 is Navi pro and H&K sound and you're good to go! The M240 will lose it's value aloooot faster, but it probably would be a bit better day to day.
Got a M135i at the moment, was thinking of an M2 but now having seen a few reviews of the M240i and the £10,000 saving this is a real option. Only 30 bhp less than an M2 only tenths of a second slower to 60 mph and obviously better fuel economy also think that an M2 in my neighborhood might get keyed, whereas the M240i is not so much of an attraction to mindless vandals....choices, choices....
Nice review. Did you find there was a lot of wind whistling in the cabin at high speeds? This is something that at least a couple of other reviewers have mentioned.
Just test drove a manual today with flappy paddle, price wasn't quite what I wanted so waiting on their phone call 😉 also drove a final gen Impreza but nothing in comparison
Ich fahre ein 440i Cabrio mit Performance Kit. Ich liebe die Form des Cabrios auf 20 Zoll Rädern.. das Vergleichsweise eindeutig höhere Gewicht merkt man auch aber sobald das Fahrzeug erstmal rollt und man dann ein kickdown macht, ist das Gewicht einfachmal weg radiert. Mit dem xdrive und adaptiven Fahrwerk fressen sich die Reifen Nahezu in den Asphalt. Für die Stadt ist er auch viel komfortabler als ein m4 , Verbrauch, Verschleiß, Reparaturen alles etwas günstiger für einen Riesen fahrspass und blickmagneten. Allerseits eine gute Fahrt !!!
Nice Review :D but i will prefer the m240i. i get a 335i n54 with M-Perfomance exhaust with 6 shift sport automatic gearbox and nice engine with exhaust sounds. The Gearbox is not the slowest but not so fast like m1/235i or m1/240i. But i decided to buy a m135i cuz its more effecient , faster and i love the fast shifting with the 8 shift automatic gearbox. Anyways Nice Video ;).
Depends what you think is better? The m240i is not an m car. The m2 is on another level. Not so much in outright pace, they’re similar. But everything else. Exhaust, gearbox, differential, feel - everything is on another level in the m2.
It is a mode you use more time than you can expect... city driving and all. I only switch to comfort/sport mode when I wanna overtake fast, the lovely part is that as soon as you switch the modes, you feel the instant power. Sport mode is better when you have to go out from the city or play around for fun.
Also, you can tootle along in eco mode for best economy and quiet driving in everyday traffic, but just floor the pedal and the M240 instantly kicks hard to get out trouble when you need it to.
maybe u come and check out our gas prices here in the Netherlands ... to buy this car YES we wanna floor it 24/7 ... but if u want it as a daily too u really wanna know economics too
Sherman Too I find very little power in eco mode, but it’s there to save fuel. Now comfort has some power & sport is killer. I know traction turns off in sport +, but I haven’t noticed a big difference between sport & sport + yet.
+jmeverts1234 You're right, but that would be quite a contraption to wear on your head ;) We will keep improving them, haven't been doing these POV reviews for long! Thanks for watching and your feedback!
With the performance and the 8 speed automatic gearbox i would go for a M140i, because of 5 doors and the greater usability for all day drive. To be serious the M140i/M240i, with xdrive or not, is the better car, if you don't go to racetracks or something like that. For public roads the M2 is not that much faster and on the autobahn i thing there is no difference between the M2 and M140i/M240i. The M2 is overall the faster car, bacause of more power, the better chassis, the faster gearbox, but it is in every point only a tick of a second and in germany there is a difference in price of 10 - 11 k€ but you get way more % on the price of a M140/240 than you will get on a M2.
The gear box sounds really fast on shifts ! (For something that isn't duel clutch). My duel clutch Cayman GTS shifts instantly but I really don't see where I'm gonna use that aside from serious track competitions which I don't participate in and if I did I wouldn't use a slow Cayman...(ok I guess it's not slow but can't beat the kids with the super cars haha)
I'm deciding between this M240 and the Alfa Romeo Giulia which is also an incredible driving machine. Some even say it's better than the BMWs in pure driving pleasure.
+scamaker The B58 engine in the 240i is a real gem.. it's smoother, more powerful and just feels a lot more beefy. But I'd drive them both to see if you think it's worth the price difference!
+AutoTopNL, agree B58 is fantastic. +scamaker I found N55 from M235 to be more peakier and seemed to want to rev right to the limiter to get its max performance. The B58 didn't seem to need it and felt meatier and powerful earlier in the rev range, even though it will happily rev out to 7K. I haven't personally checked but have read B58 also more economical, maybe because it's greater torque allows more economical driving. I believe B58 turbo is also positioned closer to intake than in N55, improving its responsiveness. I was looking also at Audi and Merc, but was sold after driving the M240 after seeing this review in Jan 2017. Unfortunately, the colour and options I chose meant I had to wait 4mths for delivery, but car should be here in 2wks! Can't wait :)
+Teddy Spot, As I read the size of the B58 turbo is a bit bigger. I ordered mine end of March 2017 and the delivery should be June 26, so like u, 2 more weeks to wait :) Courage!
+opsolys, just picked up my M240 yesterday and ... simply awesome! There's so much the dealership went through with me in 2hrs I'll need the next few weeks to be familiar with it's functions. One thing I didn't expect was being told the next gen M240 only gets 4 cylinders. Only the M2 will continue with 6cyls. If that's true, this being the last of the M240's with 6cyls is even more desirable now :)
lol 12:55 3 reasons... Those are exactly the reasons I Dont want a 240i 1. Convertible---NO! 2. All wheel drive---Fuk NO! 3. B58 motor---I will pass! Weak looking back end... no quad exhaust...narrow body/fenders...B58 is supposedly difficult to mod... USA Market. Currently on waiting list for 2018 M2 and 2019 M2 CS... Whichever comes first :(
In Turkey M240i is not on sale but M235i is about 100k € and M2 is about 135k€. Also Euro to TL (Turkish Lira) is 3.30. So these cars are only dream for us here. I think these cars don't worth that much money compared to worldwide prices. If I could afford money, I would pick M2 with Long Beach blue. It looks perfect with that wide body. M2 is more special in my opinion. But M240i (also an amazing car) has the same look with 218i (which is 45k€ here). So like the driver said it is about price difference between cars. I also agree that it is more logical to buy an M240i in Netherlands. All in all 220i with Estoril blue would be my favourite with decent performance and relatively low price. :) But unfortunately is not on sale in Turkey.
Korn Yeah. Also 1 Euro is more than 3 TL. So M2 is about 450k TL. But we don't earn 3 times of a European person earn. That means it is maybe 6 times harder to buy a car like this here.
+Karim Mansour So sad. :( This is a dramatic result of undeveloped economies. Also there are bad news here that before 2017 the government will make a law which increases taxes of premium brands. So cars under 1.6 lt engines' taxes are going to increase from %45 to %74. (Also this tax is taken from standart %18 taxed price). We are the only country in the world that is taken the tax of tax. I just don't know what to say. Don't we deserve to live like human? If we would know that our taxes are good for country and will upgrade the life quality, we will not complain .But all of us know that these taxes are only thicken politicians wallets, fill up their relatives pockets.
we have similar taxes but even worse, we also have that shitty tax of tax, well same as u said about the 1.6L cars the customs tax decreased from 100% of the cars original price to 60% then to 40% but along with the decrease in customs tax u pay a sales tax on the original price + customs tax which is a joke, or a robbery :s any car with more than 1.6L or 4 cylinders pay 175% of the cars original price then u add the price to the customs and pay the sales tax which quadruples the car's original price, but now 4 days ago the government decreased the value of the egyptian pound by half so all of the above increased by double, its a total nightmare, i now have my E36 coupe and there's not way i'll sell it ever :)
m240i is for someone who wants to drive a M coupe with minimium money, and mainly used on the road between office and home and shops, and also want to make an impression that they are performance car lovers. M2 is for someone who are performance car lovers but also have to drive the same car between those places, also they may drive it on track when they get a chance.
i think the decision between an m240i and M2 cant be made simply by looking at the performance/paper numbers. If you buy an M-car, you buy a completely different driving experience.
Better at what? As the reviewer said, if you're not tracking your car, compared with the M240, the M2 is a very unforgiving ride in everyday driving and will hammer your kidneys into submission. Unless you don't care about the ride (and the majority of buyers definitely do), the M240 is the better choice if you're not going to track your car.
kize32 a type r, sti or focus rs all beats or are very close to m2 on track and they cost way less, around 20k here in canada. So if u care too much about performabcd on track then prolly these cars are bang for the bucks.
+Robin J No alcantara, they didn't sell it with those seats here (I wanted those, I like alcantara more than leather tbh hehe), only for m135 at that moment. About the feature, the version of the infotainment changed a bit (it looks different in the video), but yes I have all the driving modes, I can customize the suspension and handling response, although I haven't since I didn't see the point :). The defaults are already what I need. I didn't noticed much difference between sport and sport+ in the power/suspension, the steering wheel is the same (a bit heavy), only the handling gets a bit more difficult haha.
The M140i (same powertrain as a m240i) has been dynoed at 360whp (over 400hp to the crank) and has been tested at 4.2-4.3 0-60mph. It's the size of an e46 M3 and is faster than the e92. With minor bolt ons (intake, downpipe, JB4) it's over 500hp on the B58 platform and over 600hp with a stage 1 turbo upgrade from Pure Turbos ($1,000). Pair that with the bulletproof and very responsive ZF8 transmission, and you have a monster.
I ordered a 2019 M240i in December 2018 and will be picking it up tomorrow. Estoril Blue with Black leather and all the boxes ticked. Loved the car when I test drove it with my wife and she loved it too. We also compared to an M2, and didn't like the jounce in the suspension on rough roads; also preferred to get xDrive so that's what we went with. Smoother suspension, all wheel drive, brilliant engine, etc. We are very excited to pick it up tomorrow in Monterey, California. Thanks to reviewers like you who helped us get pointed in this direction.
Mine is arriving in April jejeje what about that stiff staring the video told about?
Jump ahead, got a 2018 M240i XDrive with 4k miles for under $40k. Damn near every option. AMAZING machine. Was planning on the next gen Subaru STi, but I got this cheaper and it is literally twice the car. 0-60 in 4.2 and you feel every bit of it. The heated steering wheel is actually grand. M exhaust and all. Snap, crackle, and pop. Hands down an incredible deal.
Why is the no X drive in the UK?😅
We need it the most tf
I've had the M240i for a couple of weeks now and absolutely love it. About $10,000 less then the M2 in the ZF8 configuration vice the M2 DCT. Was on a couple of M2 waiting lists for a number of months with no allocations to be found. Test drove the M240i and was sold. Couldn't give a shit that it's not a "real" M car, this car is a blast to drive and a great daily driver as well. Bite me haters.
Mario Mifsud ha ha ha you are bitten
At this point the main difference is that the M2 will hold their value more than the m240i. But if you don't care about the devaluation, the 240i is a great deal
I think you are wrong here , real M cars was hideous in the old days like m240 ,new M cars are just for Show off ricers..
+xphobus your an idiot with a stupid opinion
Im hoping to test drive this car on Saturday and the M2 with a fellow youtuber on Sunday. Both in manual form as the guy im meeting has the manual M2. So it will be interesting to see how these machines compare. Love them both but i do think the M2 looks astounding
i bought the m235 about 9 months ago, i love it! Had lots of different bmw's from the early 90's and the engine is probably the best engine i have ever had in any bmw. It has been put together so well that you dont even realise that there is a turbo, there is no turbo lag whatsoever. The m235 engine was also tuned very very well. Its slower only by a margin then the m2 but from 160kph it starts to leave the m2 all the way to the governor at 250.
Really a fantastic bmw! my ONLY ONLY wish was to get it in the nicer leather option that the m4's and the other more expensive cars come with.
I went to see the m240 now and the difference is mariginal, all you get is extra sat nav and some stitching on the seats. The engine performance is pretty much the same. Besides, with a bmw performance chip, the m235 goes to 382bhp which is faster then the m2...
Anyways, i love my car :)
I got mine in may :) and I'm also in love with it, I don't really wanna chip it coz tbh, I don't feel it needs it hehe but that is only me. Mine is gray with red leather interiors. It is really fun to drive!
The infotainment is diffrent?
Hey po po how is your car going. Do you still have it? I just got one
Where can I find this chip? I don’t see anything on the site for my m235i...
@@owenlee9474 nah. Sold it. Too many potholes in Africa, tired of fixing the rims
This thing with BMWs xDrive is perfection.. driving enjoyment and safety at winter
I’ve been looking at this car for the past few months. Really want to get one haha. Thanks for the review even tho this is 3-4 years ago :)
Minnesota btw. Seeing some of these at 27k-32k so not all that bad for this car
Seems as though we are in the same boat! Good luck with your search bro
@@jordanblackburn4477 insurance is hella expensive though. almost $300 for full coverage is outrageous
@@IYIagiix lol bro, im in the UK and im looking for one. Insurance here is £800 (over $1000). Ur lucky! Great car tho just trying to find one in my perfect spec
I just recently got my 2017 m240 for 33k with 28k miles and insurance with State Farm isn’t even $200 but then again I have all my coverages with them haha... I wish you luck on your search it’s such a fun car!!!
I have owned an M240i For 3 month and cleared 3000 miles and this car is amazing honest! problem being you need to find more road!! its so fast rediculas
Love my white M240i
Hi there,
I really watch your channel for a while already and I find it one of the best there is when it comes to experience a little bit from almost all interesting cars that market has to offer. I live in Toronto Canada and I'm the happy owner of 2017 BMW M240i xdrive coupe. I have the car 9 month already and it's a fantastic car really. Initially I was on a waiting list for an M2 but a changed my mind but no regrets. Your driving reviews helped me allot to choose this model and everything you did say about it proved to be true. Thanks and keep doing it. Best
I ordered one today.. metallic black with 19 inch jet black wheels and loads of options... this is my dream car since the day has been released and only now, few days before the end of production, I bought one... I HAD to try this last 6 cylinder and this wonderful RWD.
Mine is arriving in April jeje
@@ClubMicrobio congrats! Hope you’ll have fun! Mine is already arrived, I’ve done 1000km and she’s a beast! The only downside, she’s really thirsty!
@@aian9597 I'm a bit afraid of the cost of the insurance too...
ClubMicrobio in Italy I pay 1900€ a year... it is a really expensive car to be honest, a person with a medium wage will have some troubles in maintaining it
@@aian9597 do you have a "fully comprehensive insurance "? It's pretty high, I'm 39. How old are you?
Drove this car and 230i for test the same day. Both are fantastic. The m240i seems actually too powerful, if that makes sense. Never drove the M2 but assume it’s insanely good. I actually preferred the 230i when considering overall package, price, performance etc. in sport mode the acceleration in the 4 cyl is just fantastic, plenty of power. 2 series is really great, beautiful cars.
The dilemma is that while one would normally want the M2 over the M240i, the M2 still uses the N55 engine which will be obsolete in the near future. The M240i doesn't have the body or handling of the M2, but that B58 is such a beast that it makes you feel like you didn't get the full package if you got the M2. So for anyone in the market, pick the M240i for the B58 engine & pick the M2 if you want the track handling & aggressive styling. BMW already said there is no engine change for the base M2 in LCI so for. those that can't get over not having an advanced tuned version of the B58, wait for the next Gen.
But the N55 M2 makes more power than the B58 in the M240i and it has a DCT..?
I'll go with the M240i purely because I won't be using it on a race track and for everyday driving it beats the M2. On the roads of Great Britain you'll be battered and bruised driving a car with stiff suspension so just on that it's a no brainer - the M240i.
Are you 76?
I just put my deposit down on an M240i mostly for the price. In Canada the M2 is about 15,000 dollars more and I'd only get to use the difference in performance about two or three times a year. Mine is an x-drive in grey and it will take about three months to get here. I'm currently driving a big ford pickup ( because of work ) so this should be a sweet sweet change. Good God I can hardly wait.
Have seen both your 230i and now this POV review of the M240i. I too have driven both here in the U.S. with the ZF 8 speed AT. When I configured them similarly...M-Sport, Premium & Track Package (for the 230) price difference is ~ $4,000. I like the lighter, more nimble driving feel of the 230i, its lower price to purchase and insure. But will admit, the strong and smooth acceleration of the M240 is addictive. Logic tells me 230i; emotion sometimes says M240i. Very difficult decision...appreciate your reviews. Am always thankful for U.S. vehicle pricing relative to Europe!
Rick Talbot I bought a 230 I with the m sport package but no track handling package rear wheel drive. I love it but wonder if I should of purchased an m240. I never test drove one. my 230i was driven by one of the salesman thus 4000 miles on it. Sticker was 46000 and I got it for 39000
First time to this channel. Refreshing to have someone reviewing cars that actually seems like a cool guy.
+iceking123kitty Welcome!
All Dutch People are cool
I'd go 240i. I live in Rochester, New York and drive to Buffalo a lot. I need that xDrive. Also like the engine and daily drive feel. If I were to get a pure real wheel drive sports car like the m2 my first choice is a Corvette. About the same price as the M2 here.
I'm in Bogota, Colombia. Thinking in getting one from the local dealer. Thank you for the review, I will keep you posted when I get to do the test drive here in South America. ;)
I hope there are going to be so nice cars like the M240i when I'm working and getting my own money. Graduating right now and already addicted to BMWs.
great video / for me its m 240 / reasons why looks great asanly fast/ 369 lb ft torque is brutal amount , love the gearbox , just a great performance package , not many cars will keep up with this
I prefer the M2 because of the wide body and better gear box, and the car price in the Middle East is 68,000 euro
M240i is super amazing....just about the right size, easy to handle and it's an AWD..! I'm getting one..
Great video! In the UK, the M2 £44000 and the m240i with automatic transmission 36500, both are nice cars.
20k -24k now 2 years later
Great car, but 'better' depends on what criteria you are judging it by.
It might be the better car for a daily driver.
The M2 looks better, sounds better, is faster, much better steering feedback, better cornering ability, has a better interior, and will hold it's value higher when used because it's a proper M car and not just a 'pretend M'.
Had my M240i for just over a month. What a car. My previous car was a tuned VW Scirocco R, and before that a tuned mk6 Golf GTI. They were both great cars, and pretty fast, but the M240i is a whole new level of enjoyment with the sweet howl of the 6 cylinder engine and RWD. But it is also a very comfortable cruiser in comfort mode, with the excellent Harmon Kardon optional audio. I'm taking it to a track day in February to test it out.
What about that stiff steering the guy of the video criticized in sport and sport plus?
Still today I love to watch this video.
It was helping me to make my decision to buy an 2018 M240i, which I ve ordered in December 2017.
I use it for daily ride to my work.
Today I cracked already the 100.000 k barrier ... and the car ist still making such an amazing fun to drive like from the 1st day 😎👍
May I ask what the consumption is with this engine? And did you have any issues with it?
@@zblazek2 Of course, a pleasure to give you some information...
The average consumption from a mix of 40% normal road, 50% Autobahn and around 10% inner city traffic is 8,7 l/100 kilo.
Due to that I m living in the Rhein Main area near Frankfurt the daily jam traffic allows in majority only a speed level around 75 km/h in average.
But outside of rush hour I m throughout able to speed up to 260 km/h .... which is going very quick due to the amazing torque of this engine, means overall its also an amazing low level of fuel consumption for such a powerful car ...
If I m going only in normal regular speed mode I achieved also around 8,0 l/kilo !
This is not to compete by any other car in this power class.
...and for the time being (currently I have passed 113.000 km) I had no single one issue with this engine.
I keep strictly all the maintanance rules !
The only point where I m deviating of the BMW recommendations ... I change engine oil and filter every 15.000 km ... and not awaiting the regular 30.000 distance.
@@joachimriegel3253 Well, consumption around 8 liters is really great for such a powerful unit! Thank you for the details :)
@@zblazek2 ...👍 .. you are welcome
@@zblazek2 my overage consumption is 10,6 liters per 100km. Can't low down this figure, I would say I do 50%city 50% inter-city trips.
Test drove both the M2 and the M240i. Yeah this has 30 HP less and is lighter. But honestly you do feel the superiority of the M2 after driving it. I drove the M2 first then jumped into the M240i and honestly the difference was huge. But then again, for the money, the M240i is pretty good. I'm most likely gonna get the 2019 version in a few months cuz M2 is expensive :D
I have the the 2015 M135 with xDrive and I drove the M2.. I totally agree with you. For daily driving the M2 is harsh. And with the snow on the way, the xdrive is superb! I love the engine, the ZF and the red leather!
Brilliant review, i might just buy one - actually found out that it has a better power to weight ratio than the M2 and of course with the M2 there is a waiting list and for me who'd buy 2nd hand i'd have to wait a year or so.....
USA Washington, DC Metropolitan Area - just bought an M240i xdrive 2018 convertible in estoril blue & black Dakota leather interior 0-60 mph in 4.2 (you can shift gears yourself or use the paddles - not a manual though). Absolutely love it!!! IMG_1931.HEIC
Great review! I suppose all this translates as well to the M140i?
Enjoyed the video, I'm thinking of getting a M240i--I like the fact its M power and speed without the cost In Canada a M24i Xdrive starts a $50,000 and the M2 is $16,000 more.
I just sold my M2 and bought an M240i, my friends raised an eyebrow and didn't understand why
But after I explained to them that in daily driving in the city the M2 is simply not built for it - you hear every noise and the vehicle is more bouncy - I certainly was not comfortable with it since I live and work in the city. The advantage of the m2 is in turns or on the track because the vehicle is more stable
I am much happier with the M240i but for some people who want to take the car to the track the M2 will suit them better.
I live in NY, USA. Prefer the 235/240i as my next car. M2 is about $10k more, and of course it doesn’t have x drive, which I want because we have snow and serious winters here. I think you cannot go wrong with any 2 series, even the base model is very sporty and performs far beyond what you would expect from a smaller 4 cyl engine when in sport mode. The sport seat package should be considered mandatory and makes a very big difference, they are far more comfortable and cooler lookin*than the regular seats. BMW for the win, again!
You can absolutely configure the sport mode to have sport mode with the steering set to comfort mode - there is a setting. i've done it on my 220d
2017 M240ix since 3 years. This year made Stage 1 , so 400 hp.
I just say - M2, make place, out of my Way! 😂
Only on a straight road, which requires no skill.
On a twisty undulating road, your car could have 600bhp and it still wouldn't see which way the M2 went.
I know this 100%, I owned an M140i for 4 years, running 455bhp/634nm, and I now have a standard OG M2.
Remap the M2 and put a larger intercooler on, and it will be over 400bhp anyway.
M240 Convertible, I don't think there is a car more fun.
Panthers1521 a corvette convertible.
What to do? M240 auto for daily, Manual convertible corvette zo6 for Occasions.
the intro sound sucks after watching a few videos...
That's why they change it after a couple weeks.
Agree, unless first priority is the track, the M240i is the better choice.
For a daily driver, it's just more sensible than the M2
Looks like a blast... Would be even better with a third pedal. Sign me up
Just got my 2017 dark gray black interior convertible m240i. Man love this sexy beast! It looks clean but yet un assuming. Flew out to Denver to visit my bro driving this crappy Nissan rental lol! Can’t wait to drive up next time in the Convertible!
I'm pretty sure, you can adjust the RPM of the launch control, using the cruise control "lever" on the left hand side of the steering wheel, while launch control is active.
Live in Sweden.
Would have the M2! All you need to spec on your M2
is Navi pro and H&K sound and you're good to go!
The M240 will lose it's value aloooot faster,
but it probably would be a bit better day to day.
Got a M135i at the moment, was thinking of an M2 but now having seen a few reviews of the M240i and the £10,000 saving this is a real option. Only 30 bhp less than an M2 only tenths of a second slower to 60 mph and obviously better fuel economy also think that an M2 in my neighborhood might get keyed, whereas the M240i is not so much of an attraction to mindless vandals....choices, choices....
dude what's your camera set/mic set up? these videos are AWESOME!
Nice review. Did you find there was a lot of wind whistling in the cabin at high speeds? This is something that at least a couple of other reviewers have mentioned.
B58 is definitely the better motor but I'm going M2. Better resale, more engaging.
Just test drove a manual today with flappy paddle, price wasn't quite what I wanted so waiting on their phone call 😉 also drove a final gen Impreza but nothing in comparison
Getting mine this weekend
Ich fahre ein 440i Cabrio mit Performance Kit. Ich liebe die Form des Cabrios auf 20 Zoll Rädern.. das Vergleichsweise eindeutig höhere Gewicht merkt man auch aber sobald das Fahrzeug erstmal rollt und man dann ein kickdown macht, ist das Gewicht einfachmal weg radiert. Mit dem xdrive und adaptiven Fahrwerk fressen sich die Reifen Nahezu in den Asphalt. Für die Stadt ist er auch viel komfortabler als ein m4 , Verbrauch, Verschleiß, Reparaturen alles etwas günstiger für einen Riesen fahrspass und blickmagneten. Allerseits eine gute Fahrt !!!
Great review, thanks. Intelligent and informative.
Zalig net een m240i xDrive van2k18 gekocht heb er al zin in❤
For the track I would get a Cayman over the m2. For a daily the m240i is perfect
Nice Review :D but i will prefer the m240i. i get a 335i n54 with M-Perfomance exhaust with 6 shift sport automatic gearbox and nice engine with exhaust sounds. The Gearbox is not the slowest but not so fast like m1/235i or m1/240i. But i decided to buy a m135i cuz its more effecient , faster and i love the fast shifting with the 8 shift automatic gearbox.
Anyways Nice Video ;).
Great review! I agree, I don' t like the artificially weighted steering either. I'm not a fan of the bundled settings, this is the same with the M2.
Nice vid Mate. Thanks
Nice review. How do you feel the suspension? Is it rigid? Or is it comfy for daily driving. Thanks for sharing.
Depends what you think is better? The m240i is not an m car. The m2 is on another level. Not so much in outright pace, they’re similar. But everything else. Exhaust, gearbox, differential, feel - everything is on another level in the m2.
M240i definitely, in Brazil is around 300k and the M2 is around 400k, that’s a lot of difference. Unless you want to track it a lot
Take this all day over an M2. Cheaper and way easier to live with.
This or TTS any recomendations?
defo this !! b58 engine is the bomb
ill go for say 2018 plate , melbourne red / black leather try get all options , tall order
Ok review. Would cut down on the negativity. 2.5/5
He gets into a car with nearly 350hp and starts playing with eco settings, go figure.
It is a mode you use more time than you can expect... city driving and all. I only switch to comfort/sport mode when I wanna overtake fast, the lovely part is that as soon as you switch the modes, you feel the instant power. Sport mode is better when you have to go out from the city or play around for fun.
Also, you can tootle along in eco mode for best economy and quiet driving in everyday traffic, but just floor the pedal and the M240 instantly kicks hard to get out trouble when you need it to.
maybe u come and check out our gas prices here in the Netherlands ... to buy this car YES we wanna floor it 24/7 ... but if u want it as a daily too u really wanna know economics too
ChipZilla69 Eco saves your ass when low on fuel - just did last night! Otherwise sport, sport +
Sherman Too I find very little power in eco mode, but it’s there to save fuel. Now comfort has some power & sport is killer. I know traction turns off in sport +, but I haven’t noticed a big difference between sport & sport + yet.
nice review ... top ...
The pov style is nice but you need a gimball to keep the image level for more easy viewing pleasure
+jmeverts1234 You're right, but that would be quite a contraption to wear on your head ;) We will keep improving them, haven't been doing these POV reviews for long! Thanks for watching and your feedback!
With the performance and the 8 speed automatic gearbox i would go for a M140i, because of 5 doors and the greater usability for all day drive. To be serious the M140i/M240i, with xdrive or not, is the better car, if you don't go to racetracks or something like that. For public roads the M2 is not that much faster and on the autobahn i thing there is no difference between the M2 and M140i/M240i. The M2 is overall the faster car, bacause of more power, the better chassis, the faster gearbox, but it is in every point only a tick of a second and in germany there is a difference in price of 10 - 11 k€ but you get way more % on the price of a M140/240 than you will get on a M2.
The gear box sounds really fast on shifts ! (For something that isn't duel clutch). My duel clutch Cayman GTS shifts instantly but I really don't see where I'm gonna use that aside from serious track competitions which I don't participate in and if I did I wouldn't use a slow Cayman...(ok I guess it's not slow but can't beat the kids with the super cars haha)
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I’d also have an M140i shadow edition.
Today you have to wait at least 12-15 months to collect an M2 against 90 days for an M240i
I'm deciding between this M240 and the Alfa Romeo Giulia which is also an incredible driving machine. Some even say it's better than the BMWs in pure driving pleasure.
some say the earth is flat :p
Auto TopNL why would you have the M car in comfort mode feel ? You like that feel? the comfort mode feels, like my grandads diesel?
very quiet in the cabin. such a good noise isolation?)
Echt een prachtige auto met name door de zescilinder. Deze motor ligt toch ook in de m2 of is dat nog het n55 blok?
De M240i gebruikt de nieuwe B58 motor. De M2 een ge-upgrade variant van de N55.
How much better/worse would you say this new engine is compared to the 235i (F22) engine? Is it worth me buying the 240i over the cheaper 235i?
+scamaker The B58 engine in the 240i is a real gem.. it's smoother, more powerful and just feels a lot more beefy. But I'd drive them both to see if you think it's worth the price difference!
+AutoTopNL, agree B58 is fantastic. +scamaker I found N55 from M235 to be more peakier and seemed to want to rev right to the limiter to get its max performance. The B58 didn't seem to need it and felt meatier and powerful earlier in the rev range, even though it will happily rev out to 7K. I haven't personally checked but have read B58 also more economical, maybe because it's greater torque allows more economical driving. I believe B58 turbo is also positioned closer to intake than in N55, improving its responsiveness. I was looking also at Audi and Merc, but was sold after driving the M240 after seeing this review in Jan 2017. Unfortunately, the colour and options I chose meant I had to wait 4mths for delivery, but car should be here in 2wks! Can't wait :)
+Teddy Spot, As I read the size of the B58 turbo is a bit bigger. I ordered mine end of March 2017 and the delivery should be June 26, so like u, 2 more weeks to wait :) Courage!
+opsolys ... Happy days! Here's to heaps of fun times ahead for us :) Cheers!
+opsolys, just picked up my M240 yesterday and ... simply awesome! There's so much the dealership went through with me in 2hrs I'll need the next few weeks to be familiar with it's functions.
One thing I didn't expect was being told the next gen M240 only gets 4 cylinders. Only the M2 will continue with 6cyls. If that's true, this being the last of the M240's with 6cyls is even more desirable now :)
How is your camera mounted?
Do you guys think that zf8 m240 will get obsolete over the years when BMW introduces Dual clutch while manual will remain a timeless classic ?
Fast forward to 2021, and my M240I is still rocking the ZF8! Great transmission all around even paddle shift is really good!👍
No the zf8 is still really good
lol 12:55 3 reasons...
Those are exactly the reasons I Dont want a 240i
1. Convertible---NO!
2. All wheel drive---Fuk NO!
3. B58 motor---I will pass!
Weak looking back end... no quad exhaust...narrow body/fenders...B58 is supposedly difficult to mod...
USA Market. Currently on waiting list for 2018 M2 and 2019 M2 CS... Whichever comes first :(
7:18 is a 235i also able to do this?
Finally, thanks for a really good test video regarding the M240i. Still pretty hard to find though ... but what the heck are your prices up there ;)
In Turkey M240i is not on sale but
M235i is about 100k € and
M2 is about 135k€. Also Euro to TL (Turkish Lira) is 3.30. So these cars are only dream for us here.
I think these cars don't worth that much money compared to worldwide prices. If I could afford money, I would pick M2 with Long Beach blue. It looks perfect with that wide body. M2 is more special in my opinion. But M240i (also an amazing car) has the same look with 218i (which is 45k€ here). So like the driver said it is about price difference between cars. I also agree that it is more logical to buy an M240i in Netherlands.
All in all 220i with Estoril blue would be my favourite with decent performance and relatively low price. :) But unfortunately is not on sale in Turkey.
That is twice the price you pay in Germany.
Korn Yeah. Also 1 Euro is more than 3 TL. So M2 is about 450k TL. But we don't earn 3 times of a European person earn. That means it is maybe 6 times harder to buy a car like this here.
And quarter the price in Egypt :( we only have the 218i for 660k Egyptian pounds !!!
+Karim Mansour
So sad. :( This is a dramatic result of undeveloped economies.
Also there are bad news here that before 2017 the government will make a law which increases taxes of premium brands. So cars under 1.6 lt engines' taxes are going to increase from %45 to %74. (Also this tax is taken from standart %18 taxed price). We are the only country in the world that is taken the tax of tax.
I just don't know what to say. Don't we deserve to live like human? If we would know that our taxes are good for country and will upgrade the life quality, we will not complain .But all of us know that these taxes are only thicken politicians wallets, fill up their relatives pockets.
we have similar taxes but even worse, we also have that shitty tax of tax, well same as u said about the 1.6L cars the customs tax decreased from 100% of the cars original price to 60% then to 40% but along with the decrease in customs tax u pay a sales tax on the original price + customs tax which is a joke, or a robbery :s
any car with more than 1.6L or 4 cylinders pay 175% of the cars original price then u add the price to the customs and pay the sales tax which quadruples the car's original price, but now 4 days ago the government decreased the value of the egyptian pound by half so all of the above increased by double, its a total nightmare, i now have my E36 coupe and there's not way i'll sell it ever :)
Btw, I will go for an M2 just because its market value will maintain over the years, while in the case of the M240i will decrease a lot.
It is actually 4.2 seconds with X drive, officially.
I prefer red or gray
nope not better and by the way I'm first yay
m240i is for someone who wants to drive a M coupe with minimium money, and mainly used on the road between office and home and shops, and also want to make an impression that they are performance car lovers. M2 is for someone who are performance car lovers but also have to drive the same car between those places, also they may drive it on track when they get a chance.
That's why you have a citroen.
The ZF or the manual as a weekend/autobahn car?
Then better the m2
3:31 the car is coasting in neutral, that's the way to say it I think :)
i think the decision between an m240i and M2 cant be made simply by looking at the performance/paper numbers. If you buy an M-car, you buy a completely different driving experience.
I wonder how the engine noise through speakers thing works when the radio is on?
M240i with a manual transmission because it costs less than an M2
It could be as fast as M2 in drag race but in the corners I'm afraid it's not. M cars have better suspension setup than normal cars and that's a fact
Better at what? As the reviewer said, if you're not tracking your car, compared with the M240, the M2 is a very unforgiving ride in everyday driving and will hammer your kidneys into submission. Unless you don't care about the ride (and the majority of buyers definitely do), the M240 is the better choice if you're not going to track your car.
and if you only want pure cornering hardness, you can do better than the m2 for the money
kize32 a type r, sti or focus rs all beats or are very close to m2 on track and they cost way less, around 20k here in canada. So if u care too much about performabcd on track then prolly these cars are bang for the bucks.
Are the seats comfortable?
they are. although I own a 235i but the only thing I saw changed was the engine.
+vamp bl
Does your car has the feature at 7:18 and do you have the alcantara?
+Robin J No alcantara, they didn't sell it with those seats here (I wanted those, I like alcantara more than leather tbh hehe), only for m135 at that moment. About the feature, the version of the infotainment changed a bit (it looks different in the video), but yes I have all the driving modes, I can customize the suspension and handling response, although I haven't since I didn't see the point :). The defaults are already what I need. I didn't noticed much difference between sport and sport+ in the power/suspension, the steering wheel is the same (a bit heavy), only the handling gets a bit more difficult haha.
Is this better than 2017 Nissan GTR?
Not even in the same category, luxury coupe vs sports car. 50k vs 120k. Anyway I would rather drive a m240 around.
This car is great but in the real world of kids, I went for the 340i Touring...... what more do you need !
In the USA, you can spec a M240I more than a M2. The price between them isn't that much different.
btw that was closer to 5 seconds 0-100 not 4.6
The M140i (same powertrain as a m240i) has been dynoed at 360whp (over 400hp to the crank) and has been tested at 4.2-4.3 0-60mph. It's the size of an e46 M3 and is faster than the e92. With minor bolt ons (intake, downpipe, JB4) it's over 500hp on the B58 platform and over 600hp with a stage 1 turbo upgrade from Pure Turbos ($1,000). Pair that with the bulletproof and very responsive ZF8 transmission, and you have a monster.
Are you bobbling a camera on your head?