VW Golf GTI Clubsport versus Golf R at Portimao

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  • Onboard in a Golf GTI Clubsport (three-door, manual on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres) chasing a Golf R (five-door, DSG, also on Cup 2 tyres) round Portimao circuit. For comparison the base weight of a manual three-door GTI Clubsport is 1,375kg and an equivalent manual three-door R is 1,476kg, both to EU including driver. In both cases DSG adds 20kg and the five-door is +30kg so in this instance the R was at least 150kg heavier - and it shows! For the full review of the Golf GTI Clubsport on PistonHeads.com see: lnk.ph/1Ntkr3V
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  • @stuartsmith5308
    @stuartsmith5308 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The different fractions of a second per lap, were due to the different drivers skills.
    Better would be time each car driven by the same driver on a hot lap.

  • @kjs1973
    @kjs1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Golf clubsport is the track focused Golf - of course it is superior around a track! It has the same motor/gearbox/brakes in a better balanced more focused chassis, and 100kg lighter!

  • @993mike
    @993mike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The lighter Clubsport is the better car to me. By the way, what dopey track allows fast laps without a helmet?? Wouldn't catch me doing that, and I've raced for over 20 years.

  • @Hunter1Lane
    @Hunter1Lane 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love to see your in a manual

  • @Ryzza5
    @Ryzza5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well driven there in the GTI.

  • @volkswizard
    @volkswizard 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dare I suggest VW told the R driver not to try too hard? After all it is a press launch for the Clubsport?

    • @deezyb858
      @deezyb858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      S54 You mean the club sport would beat the R on a dry track all day.

  • @damefaso
    @damefaso 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh these gran turismo drivers talking about racing lines and saying how bad these drivers are.They're pure gold in it's finnest form.The PR people at Mclaren and Ferrari are fighting to get them into the racing team.
    Bet the first time they drive like in this video they will end up on the trees or they will blow the shit out of the trans if they try to do a downshift like the one at 2:38

  • @pvallely100
    @pvallely100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry but I don't care what anyone in the comments says, these guys can bloody drive, don't forget their in two cars they only just got into a few hours prior on a track which they potentially don't know that well. Id like to see a lot of people here even attempt that downshift at 2:38

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      paul_v No problem at all, i own the DSG with paddle shifters.. ;) Check my channel on 2017 GTI Clubsport videos!

  • @SilvaDSD
    @SilvaDSD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you give the time laps ?
    Regards

  • @timothymountain7868
    @timothymountain7868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clubsports are well expensive now.

  • @FromHellToHeaven9
    @FromHellToHeaven9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think the de guy in the Golf R does not know wat 4Motion means. -_-

  • @tomh..
    @tomh.. 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Golf GTI CS with semislicks / Golf R with standard tyres ... that's it;)

    • @bogdan135
      @bogdan135 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Tom H. Read the description, the R was on the same tires

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bogdan135 And the more importantly the R has 4WD... But Clubsport S still whips its ass... ;)

  • @pholelamapeyi4589
    @pholelamapeyi4589 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one can easily see that the Clubsport S cou'd easily overtake the R on long stretch line..... the S is way more powerful than the R.... i'd like to know why has vw not strapped a DSG on the Clubsport S.... can anyone answer that

    • @Caymanec
      @Caymanec 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pholela Mapeyi because dsg adds more weight

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pholela Mapeyi This is a normal Clubsport, not Clubsport S. Clubsport S is faster than a 2016 Golf R coz it have 310 hp & its faster on a track. But the 2017 Golf R have the same power & 4 Wheel Drive. So ithink the 2017 Golf R should be the fastest at the moment. They say the new 2017 Golf R is faster than a Porsche 718 Boxter !!! ;)

  • @donTomcyko
    @donTomcyko 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hang on.... you say both cars are dsg, but the fella in clubsport shifts with a stick :D

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lets see how it goes if he use my Clubsport with DSG & Stage 1 Tune... 👍

  • @khweziphillips7735
    @khweziphillips7735 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Golf R driver didn't push it to the limit...

    • @makina2022
      @makina2022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Golf rs are slower fact.

  • @stefanomuraro3696
    @stefanomuraro3696 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Le macchine oltre che comprarle bisogna saperle guidare...sfido qualunque clubsport in pista con la mia golf R ..!!💪💪

  • @TassieLorenzo
    @TassieLorenzo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Clubsport is just as fast? :)

  • @eduardoamaya8634
    @eduardoamaya8634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    but which is better ??

  • @bennymav81
    @bennymav81 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy in the GTi keeps short shifting the gears at critical points, if he had let them run longer he could have easily got passed the R

  • @jacobopper4091
    @jacobopper4091 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will it come to the U.S.?

  • @PapaHett
    @PapaHett 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Record the audio at the exhaust and intake with mics, and mix them.

  • @bassetmikejoana
    @bassetmikejoana 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't you pass him?

  • @massiveglove2960
    @massiveglove2960 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok... So what's the real verdict?

    • @supercooled
      @supercooled 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MassiveGlove You're not able to see it? Come on, open your eyes.

  • @paulshaw828
    @paulshaw828 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be good to see this test done with 3 passengers and the golf r with some ad08r tyres. Please redo the video.

  • @EugVR6
    @EugVR6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sebas987.........................you could just say a Mclaren P1 would beat those golfs, as that's just as stupid as your comment, In case you dont understand, They are comparing a 4wd 300hp flagship golf against a 2wd CS edition golf with less power and less weight........nob

  • @mr2wheels684
    @mr2wheels684 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The golf r driver was not a very good track driver.... Obvious by his chosen lines.... Clubsport driver was hardly any better..... This video shows no relevance to either car in a comparison

    • @cheungarrie123
      @cheungarrie123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Brandon Verge THAT I have to agree...

    • @Swagoi
      @Swagoi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      how are there any bad lines track is very simple no bad lines?!?!

  • @marcosrou
    @marcosrou 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could have overtaken any time I wanted with my not even PP GTI ED Stage 1.5.

    • @RattDaddy
      @RattDaddy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +marcosrou Were you on the track?

  • @farhan007
    @farhan007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give me Club sport with a manual any day primarily because the Golf R is a heavy pig for a hatchback. The Clubsport with a manual is under 3000 Ibs which is considered light in today's standard S.

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      M Sadly the R look nothing like my GTI Clubsport.

    • @brettbain1
      @brettbain1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Farhan Chowdhury it's stripped out that's why where ya kids going to sit

  • @husainessack786
    @husainessack786 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My observation would be that the guy in the golf at the back has exceptionally slow gear changing skills... I'm no racer but I change gears faster then he does..

  • @brunojeronimoabreu
    @brunojeronimoabreu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    eu penso que o GTI anda mais ,mas a curvar o Golf R è bem melhor !

  • @flamencoflamenquito3266
    @flamencoflamenquito3266 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    claramente el piloto del R es pesimo y no le saca rendimiento al veiculo.

  • @tonylockhart1963
    @tonylockhart1963 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost fell asleep......

  • @sammyjjoo
    @sammyjjoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every formula car would beat these two

    • @Hampus3313
      @Hampus3313 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      +Sebas987 this is a new level of stupidity seen on youtube.

    • @sammyjjoo
      @sammyjjoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Rush you can only moronically insult without saying why you are of the opposite opinion

    • @Hampus3313
      @Hampus3313 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sebas987 we´re way past the point of trying to explain just how stupid your post was.

    • @MegaHoppie
      @MegaHoppie 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks tips

  • @MKI4EVA
    @MKI4EVA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cup2 vs stock R tyres...........on track............hahahhaha.

  • @JaNeIsKlarDu
    @JaNeIsKlarDu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boring Golf hunts another boring Golf. Both the same cars, same engine, only little technic differences. Bring back good old R32.