The ONLY Duelist to Beat Grievous With ZERO Difficulty - Star Wars Explained
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Personally, I think we're forgetting that this is training, and Grievous is known for his brutality, but not just because he hits hard with those sabers, no, he can come to hand-to-hand and just take over any living thing, and even if Dooku is an excellent duellist against someone who is physically stronger than he is, he can be overwhelmed.
And if we go back to the training scene in the book The Labyrinth of Evil, Dooku explains to him that he lacks precision (more surgical, because he has the precision of a corker). Once that's done, Grievous resumes training and ends up disarming the guard as Dooku wished, which removed Dooku's doubt about his lack of precision, which means that for Grievous, although he can be precise like Dooku, he finds it more effective to be directly brutal.
Tales of the Jedi made me understand just how powerful Dooku was
We need a Dooku show honestly
S2 is coming my friend.
Really? He didn't do anything that special in the show as far as "power" goes. Yaddle wasn't Yoda and wasn't anywhere near that level.
The Revenge if the Sith novel REALLY paints a vivid picture of how powerful he really is. And he is INSANELY strong in the force
Easily my fav star wars character
Really?
2003 clone Wars is absolutely amazing every scene with General grievous is unbelievable every scene in that whole entire thing is unbelievable action-packed Star Wars
I hardly believe this.... Fisto had no difficulty defending against him, and specifically disarmed one particular hand to get his former apprentices' saber back. He was just wise enough to not fight when he didn't have to. I bet he could have defeated Grievous, had he not cheated and had 3 magnaguards appear.
That's because Kit fisto was an expert in a light saber form that allowed him to fight multiple people at once. With Grievous using multiple sabers it was a cakewalk. In a one on one duel with only one saber I think fisto would have lost
@@TSPH1992honestly, it's more likely to me that it is because tcw (animated series) isn't all that well written or consistent. Grevious would literally struggle against the bathroom if the show writers needed it.
Very interesting, it’s obvious that Dooku trains him. And during that fight scene in the 2003 series, you showed us that Dooku was connecting to the force. Dooku is grievous teacher and it’s his job to teach him how to properly duel a Jedi. Very interesting stuff.
More videos about Dooku? I’ve been looking forward to this. Happy new year Stupendous Wave and my fellow Sith-I mean Jedi Acolytes and students of the Force
So Dooku defeating Grievous so easily because he basically had the man's number. That's makes a lot of sense. Also I think Fit Fisto or Yoda would've had the best chance against the Droid General outside of Obi-Wan.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Count Dooku was a master of all 7 forms or he mastered forms 2,6,7.
yea i think that's more likely Master ? nah but he knew enough about how to combat them all @@thaynealexander
nah he studied how to combat them
@@kingatlanofatlantis3075 that would mean he has a beginner to intermediate knowledge of the other forms. To at least know their strengths and weaknesses?
@@treiwilson9445 Not necessarily, but he has knowledge about them and how to apply his own form to counter them to the best of his abilities.
That’s why he was even with Mace Windu; a master of all seven forms but preferred the seventh.
And Yoda, even Sidious.
I love the dueling prowess of Grevous and Dooku. Aside from Sidious and Yoda, there are only 2 duelist in history I'd put above them. Both are easily better duelist than any of those four. Exar Kun and the Hero of Tython. Both perfectly mastered all 7 forms of lightsaber combat. Exar Kun had immense precision and, like Dooku, was built for it. The Hero of Tython was more similar to Grevious. He was powerful and overwhelmed his opponent in his physical strength and strength in the force. Switching from one form to another seamlessly and even using multiple forms at the same time. The Hero of Tython wasn't as precise as Exar Kun but was more precise than even Dooku. Like Dooku, the Hero of Tython was able to beat all of his lighsaber instructors in combat at an early age (7 of them one for each form). He could take on lightsaber weilding foes with only a practice saber.
Now, this is my opinion and beliefs. I wholeheartedly welcome others opinions and perspective into this. I just know that with Exar Kun and the Hero of Tython were absolute beasts and monsters when it came to dueling.
Mace Windu defeated Grievous in the 2003 Clone Wars cartoon.
Mace is the dude who crushed Grievous lungs causing that iconic cough
Mace also with drew from a duel with him when he realized Grievous was beginning to learn Vapad something that would have been too dangerous for him to have as a skill
Force crushing something is literally a dark side move.
The longer they fought, the more Windu noticed Grievous was _learning Vapad._
Mace Windu might have been holding his own, but Grievous' lightsaber skill was enough to make the 2nd banana of the _entire _*_JEDI ORDER_* use a dark side technique (say what you want about Windu using a dark side lightsaber form of combat safely in the light)- this man *reached out with a **_DARK SIDE_** technique* to crush his opponent's vital points, just to get him out of the conflict.
Edit: Not saying Windu was a Sith, but his willingness to do that _at all_ shows just how much the Clone Wars were beginning to fray nerves, even _(especially)_ among the Jedi Council
@@landonletterman831 force crushes in mother fucker hell naw.
“When you’re one with the dark side of the force, one lightsaber is all you need.”
Not to play Anakin fanboy because frankly, I’m actually not as huge on Anakin as everyone else’s, but I have to say that I could see Anakin, possibly beating grievous, but only if he dips into his anger to do it. Frankly, the only point in Anakin‘s life that I could see him easily best grievous is on or around his turn to Vader. With all of that pent-up anger, letting out I could see him possibly beat us just by sheer force of Will. With that said, though any other point in Anakin‘s life where he is fighting like a Jedi I cannot see him beat grievous. Mostly in every point in Anakin‘s life where he’s fighting like a Jedi at least prior to becoming Vader and dying. He is constantly fighting himself. He’s constantly holding his own leash to do what he believes the Jedi want him to do. So in any battle where he is facing another opponent, a lot of times he is fighting a battle on two fronts, one externally, and one internally
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Simple, Dooku knows what to do when Grievous starts fucking up the wheels with his lightsabers
Berated him four times within the span of 30 seconds, did you say? I kind of sounds to me like Dooku was also getting in Grievous' head.
Mace Windu Beat Grievous with ZERO difficulty. 😆 Technically it was not with a Saber, but I have a feeling Mace would've PWNED Grievous even with a Saber. Also, I understand the reasoning Palpatine wanted to keep Grievous away from Anakin, but it's quite possible Anakin (especially Anakin in Episode III) would've beat Grievous as well.
@@thaynealexander I’m sure if Windu got a second chance, he would win high chance.
Could you do video about Asajj Ventress, her skill, power, abilities and IQ. People sometimes say that she can beat some of the High Council Jedi Masters, others that she is on post JS Cal Kestis level.
i mean she was able to duel both Obi Wan and Anikan without dying so that's pretty insane
Because Dooku is a master swordsmen with decades of experience with a fighting style which is THE duelist fighting style.
And he is THE master of this fighting style.
He's familiar with every lightsaber form the Jedi practice and knows their weaknesses in and out.
It's only logical to asume that Dooku kept a lot of his knowledge for himself in order to put Grievous on a leash so he could never beat him(Dooku) if the General decides to betray him.
Come to think of it, General Grievous chief weapons were fear, suprprise and ruthless eficiency.
This is brilliant! Brilliant of Dooku! :D No wonder he's such class. Pure master,genious,gentleman of lightsaber.Vader was completely right-in battle you only need one lightsaber. Thank you so much as well for so many years of videos,holocrons,stories about the characters we love. May the Force be with you too😊
I was always disappointed at how easily the Jedi masters who confronted Palpetine were so easily killed. There were four of them and three were killed, including Kit Fisto, without any fight at all. I get that Sidious is the big bad, but Fisto specifically was supposed to be a master duelist, yet died incredibly easily.
It arguably makes more sense when you know the REAL reason for why. An OFF-STAGE reason.
Because originally the fight was meant to be done by a stunt double for Palpatine, but George Lucas interfered and said the actual actor would do the fighting himself. The stunt double would have known the whole fight scene inside and out and rehearsed all his moves, but this change meant the four other actors had to dumb down their roles in the fight scenes dramatically, making it look like much more of a curb stomp.
After watching “Tales of the Jedi” I don’t see Count Dooku as a villain anymore. All he wanted was to bring peace and order to the galaxy.
Thank you for these videos! Your voice is very calming and just hearing about Star Wars comforts me so they help me fall asleep.
Another great video for my archive, keep up the good work wave.
Nice vid, Dooku is an interesting character.
1:31 "Darth Sidious had direct orders from Grievous never to engage Skywalker during the war."
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@@TheStupendousWave Happens, man. It's just more to your credit that this is the first I've ever found.
Pong Krell vs Grievous would be an interesting match up
I didn't know Vader created his own version of Grievous. Fascinating! 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦
I think Yoda would’ve had a good chance against grievous because he probably won’t be afraid and is also not something that general grievous knows how to fight against
oh Yoda would shred Grievous there's a reason after Dooku dueled Yoda he said to Grievous you better pray you never run into Yoda because it will likely be your end
@@kurtpunchesthings2411Even Palpatine told Vader
“Now imagine what Yoda would have done”
And actually, Yoda and grievous did have an encounter where Yoda utterly humiliated him.
I’ve heard time and time again that Dooku was one of the best duelists ever
Vice versa, Sidious didn’t want Anakin to kill Grievous. Both were his puppets for destroying the Jedi.
I believe it doesn't really matter what your theoretical lightsaber form is. As with almost anything, if you master it enough, you can also make up for the weaknesses of a style, or form of technique. Dooku wasn't just exceptional at lightsaber combat, he was the exception among the exceptional. Therefore, the textbook weaknesses of his lightsaber form don't apply in the same way. He has mastered the overall art of lightsaber combat to such an extent that he is almost unbeatable against almost any odds when it comes to the blade. I would think he prefers Makashi, but also studied all lightsaber forms inside and out for their weaknesses, strengths, and techniques. I highly doubt Dooku is the type of guy to stop at perfecting one form. It probably just so happens that he prefers the fencing form while incorporating altered techniques from all different forms similar to Vader. Once you deeply understand technique, you can work around any textbook restrictions of a specific style, hence Dooku telling Grevious to not use soley basic attacks alone, and to control the center line. Basically, there is more to combat than just what you do with a blade. It's like a great professional boxer who has a wider proficiency of punches with some being hybrid techniques like having 3 or 4 ways to throw a jab, hook, straight right, or uppercut, and knowing how to set traps, move laterally to avoid certain punches, and change head slots to control and limit what your opponent can throw at you. After that, it's just about timing and patience.
I really do like that you brought up dropping into the zone. Expectantly because most of the questions why did he take down so many? How'd he do it with such little difficulty? Why did he need those 3 advantages in particular. Way did Obi-Wan win against him? Can all be answered by properly understanding that zone. Essentially no jedi was able to put up a real fight cus they never got a chance to get into the fight, they we're already dead or had they're spirits broken. Obi-Wan was never gonna back down, no matter what. This was it, they're chance to end the war. Take down the last real general of the separatists army and force them to negotiate. He was already so deep in the zone he was the one picking the fight.
damn man i knew dooku was powerful but holy moly.
Good video, however Zero Dif. is never the case as Librith of Evil outright states "There were times in the extensive combat sessions when even Dooku was hard-pressed to outdo the cyborg."
Great video! Always like videos of lightsaber combat :). Also that backround music is very fitting
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Machines can always be stronger, always be faster. The only thing stopping Grievous from easily ripping through all of these fleshbags was his organic brain.
I think as the Clone Wars went on, there were more and more jedi who could've taken out Grevious in a fight, because as time went by, the Jedi were getting a better sense of how Grevious operated.
This makes a lot of sense: Grievous uses psychological warfare as much as brute strength when combating Jedi. Since Dooku knows this, he’s naturally calm and not as surprised by Grievous’ changes in tactics
When I saw the thumbnail my first thought was “Arnold Schwarzenegger?”
I want a star wars movie about general Grievous
You turn out great content!
This is exactly why it wasnt just Djem So that defeated Dooku on the Invisible Hand. Lightsaber Combat isnt like Pokemon where you type advantage your opponent. Theres so much more to a lightsaber duel.
Same reason Obi-Wan "dismantled" Anakin
yea the main advantage Obi Wan had was just like the end of his duel with Maul he completely calmed his mind in the force vrs Anikan who was all over the place mentally
Obi Wan was one of the greatest Defensive duelists of all time and not just that the determination he had in this duel unlike Anikan who was afraid
Obi Wan was ready to die if it meant stopping Anikan he was not afraid in the slightest of anything in that moment the more balance of mind allowed him to fight anikan and when the time came capitalize on a fatal mistake Anikan made to win the duel
I just don’t understand how Grievous could stand a chance against any Jedi, he has no force power so he’s unable to protect himself from basics force attacks. A padawan could easily turn off all his lightsabers.
Didn't Yoda say that Dooku wasn't so much a master of Form II: Makashi as he was THE master of Form II?
I never understood how Grievous was ever a threat to any Jedi above younglings or younger padawans... yeah his multiple blades and extensive combat experience make him verry dangerous in a direct lightsaber duel, but he doesn't have the force so any force user can easily levitate him such that he cant touch the ground, walls or ceiling and he is helpless. The only answer that I have seen to this is oh Grievous is too fast and they wont have time to build up the force, but that's just nonsense as virtually every one of his lightsaber duels has a pause for threats and/or insults before it starts or during the fight. Whole thing just feels like plot armor to make a cool villain that isn't the traditional force user to me.
Id like to see a break down of Anakin's dark and light side lightsaber styles
A character like grievous will never be able to shine in a kiddy setting like star wars.
You'd need to unleash him in a young adult setting or flat out a mature setting to see what he is really capable of.
insight, thankyou.
the stupendous wave do you think Count Dooku could have been Supreme Chancellor or Jedi Battle Master how about both what do you think guys the role of those two spots suits him better than Palpatine and dralig also happy New Year the stupendous wave
With how high a pedestal he puts Grievous on, as well as Dooku, if there were so few Jedi, that were powerful enough to not be frightened by Grievous or his speed, brutality, etc. or just use the force to rip him apart, then yes, Sidious wasn’t even needed to take down the order, and rule the Senate.
Anakin should’ve taken him out with a ship, as soon as he heard about him, and how many masters he’d killed.
I don’t even believe that Anakin wouldn’t have simply defied the council, and went after him immediately.
No, Dooku couldn't be battle master because for that you need to be able to teach all forms of lightsaber combat, which Dooku couldn't do. He only knew Makashi, with which he achieved Mastery.
@@JayF2912 so then that leaves the other thing
@@user-yc9vv9xb8s I mean I wasn't going to touch on that but as the Chancellor he'd pretty much just reform the Republic, boot the Jedi out of the senate, eliminate corruption and make the entire galaxy pretty much fuckin perfect because before he fell to the dark side he literally just wanted the Jedi to do what was right and not be political, and go and help everyone
@@JayF2912 so yes
“Darth Sidious had direct orders from Grievous” I know what you meant but as an audio listener it did confuse me at first
“Darth Sidious had directly ordered Grievous” probably being what was meant to be said
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Kit Fisto beat General Grievous decisively in the Clone Wars, Fisto hacked off a limb and force pushed up. For fighting in the Clone Wars form one & three are probably the best because a Jedi was more than likely to be out numbered by droids.
Didn't know T-800 learned lightsaber combat.
I feel like windus shatter point would be grievous achillies heel
Yoda. Nuff said.
Didn’t Ventress defeat Grievous in lightsaber combat during the battle of Dathomir? It was supposed to be a 1v1 but when Grievous saw that he lost he commanded his army to engage Ventress. We also have to remember that Fisto defeated and disarmed him. I think this video is over hyping Grievous. Yes he was a beast but he’s lost to a couple too.
Kitt Fisto handled him rather easily
I was just reading about Darth Glovoc. He was still in stasis after Darth Kryat. My question is. What other Sith Lords are still in stasis in legends and cannon?
Duku would have not lost to anakin had he not been instructed to
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Dooku an Grevious the CIS versio, sorta, of kenobi and Anakin
i wonder how plo koon would do vs grievous
I really like this
He trained grievous
"Grievous has orders from idiots"
Not a disagreement, but I don't fear the actions of idiots as much as I fear if their idiocy is in aim of some larger goal.
But yet Anakin, Vader and Yoda are still better duelists than Dooku 🤔. You can even argue that Maul is up there
"when you wield the power of the dark side, only one lightsaber is needed" did you just reinforce what i always said: sidious's belief that the sith had grown beyond the need of lightsabers and only used one to "mock the jedi" is totally nonsensical. we should have seen the opposite, as in he's so powerful that he wants to SHOW THEM that, not just boast about it from the safety of the Insidilair, while enjoying a cup of Sith Grey. how 1 sith can defeat multiple jedi with the dark side and no lightsaber, THAT would be a boast, one hell of a victory. nope, we see him in combat twice, 2 uses of lightsaber. there's even more nonsensical bs in the expanded universe than the movies.
Don’t forget about Yoda, yoda would destroy grievous in mere seconds if he so chose to
In legends Greivous and yoda did dual, yoda jumped and slashed,
Greivous mask as a warning lol, when he jumped he went straight through all of Greivous lightsabers perfectly and got a slash right on the top of his mask lol, Greivous never even got to blade lock with yoda, it would be hilarious to see how quick yoda would beat him if he made it up in his mind he was going to kill Greivous
@@scottmcmichael319 Dooku did tell him more or less under no circumstances he was to mess with the little green guy...... cause he'd get owned! 😂😂
@@scottmcmichael319 I thot they dueled once in canon?
@@starkillerab1582 not to my knowledge but I could be wrong
well after Dooku dueled Yoda he spoke to Grievous and said you better pray you never face Yoda or it will likely mean your end
Rady Grievous isn’t force sensitive and Count Dukoo is.
😂I just wanna know who would win between previous and maul. They both lost repeatedly to the same people do I mean it would be a fun "what if?"
All this to be finished by a blaster 😅...so uncivilized
Nice!
What’s is the name of the show in the background?
Just came to the comments to see if the answer was Dooku or Skoll.
Wait a minute this video isn’t about obi wan
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Would like to see grievous use four darksabres at the same time
Honestly he better of with the regular sabers they're longer than the dark sabers and therefore will serve him better when it comes to dueling and reflecting gun fire
Still like to see it but it depends on who he is facing off against@@MastahMeister
@@MastahMeisterthe dark sabers also have a different blade design, it would look goofy as fuck if he tried to spin them
Dooku no diff
In the comics that are canon and in the close wars Grevious was defeated by a few jedi as well as it mentioned that at times Dooku fear him winning at times too so I am sure he could actually beat him at some point.
Didnt Mace no dif him as well?
Grievous and Vader are comically OP. IRL they would both be pwnd by even an average Jedi padawan but plot armor requires over powered antagonists.
Dooku, is not as good as you think. He was beaten, easily.
Dooku was better trained. And never needed a super brain.
Why don’t they just pick grievous up and slam him into a wall over and over again 😂😂😂 pmo sometimes seeing Jedi fight him he literally has no force powers
Captain Tarpals and Fisto easily beat Grievous 😂
I was watching videos about real weapons fighting and TH-cam recommended me this. It defies logic how these lightsabers are used in movies. Those blades are made of light and because of that blades are weightless. They hotter than surface of Sun and can cut through bones and flesh without any resistance with simple touch. Because of this wide swings are pointless from offensive side of combat. All it can achieve is to give opponent opening for counterattack. Combat with lightsabers should more look like it is done with rapier. th-cam.com/video/nuiLjpSF8uw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hWNMn3mMdCzy2Po0 basically lightsaber always in front.
I just found some disgusting news about the acolyte show. The real thing this show is about is a lesbian black nonbinary woman who uses the force. The show was nicknamed “a black haven” because almost every character is a black female. The show shows this lives of LGBTQ Star Wars characters and has scenes with women kissing other women and stuff. The director is an LGBTQ gen z activist herself. This is a disaster I won’t be apart of. Thought everyone should now this before finding out the hard way
wait I'm confused do you hate it becuz you think that lgbtq community is vile or becuz you would rather sexuality exposure stay out of this show or both?
just force push him over and over
no lmao he was literally built to resist that the legs clamp into the ground that ain't gonna work bro
Day 355 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
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Kit fisto also beat him quite easily
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I’d love to a rated r move about his escapades lol
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Sorry, Grievous is a trashcan. All smoke and mirrors. Maybe he can beat a few inexperienced Padawans and use numbers to kill a Jedi or even a Master Jedi, but Grievous, pound for pound, just folds to the Force. He simply has no defense for a simple Force Push.
the wave literally descrbes grievous's defence for a force push
Except he litterally was the most prolific jedi killer of the entire clone wars and killed Jedi like Shaak Ti and Eeth Koth. He wasn't incompetent.
@@JayF2912he didn't kill either of them but he did defeat them
trye but as detailed here it was more intimidation how he operated but when faced with a Jedi who didn't fear him like Obi Wan Kit Fisto etc he struggled alot more @@JayF2912
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Dooku beat Jesus in a duel. Facts.
So did qui gon jinn he's my Jesus
His name was Isa, look up his name in Aramaic
@@leenanoor9571 might wanna stick to Hebrew buddy. He was a Jew