FAST Train Goes Into Emergency in Downtown Royal Oak!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- Today, I decided to go out for CN E251 once I heard it had a duo of SD70M-2s but I did NOT expect this to happen. As the 31st car went by, you can hear ALL of the train’s air release and boom.
What had happened was There was some signal crews at the station waiting on E251 and 251 was flying by, right before they took the signal, it dropped out on them throwing the train into emergency and popping an air hose as well. It was there fora good 90 minutes!
It didn’t help that this right in the middle of a bad grade! It is 1.3% from about 6th Street up to Raven. The rest of hill up to South Boulevard is about 0.6%
CN 8887 and 8829 lead this train which was 132 cars… 101 of them were loaded….
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Yup that’s when it was.
Estimating by car lengths, it took about 1,125 feet to stop in 36 seconds.
Seeing the people, men and women, walking between the cars just gives one the chills.
One misstep and your head meets a knuckle, or the train moves and knocks you off balance as you're climbing over the couplers, RIP.
It almost happened when the train started rolling forward… for once, I’m glad I accidentally panned away from that…
Calm down grampa. You are going to have a heart attack... again.
@@marioxerxescastelancastro8019 Don't be an asshole to someone about their hobby. Heavy machinery can be lethal and everyone should maintain a safe distance from whatever is operating.
All trying to win the Darwin award .
Better over than under though.
That train had good brakes. Never have I ever seen one stop so quickly. Awesome filming. Thanks.
Empty cars stop a lot faster than loaded ones will
Empty up front. Loaded in back… I wonder if the loads further back dragged the train a little. It was going up on a grade too.
Yeah it did. Normally for every MPH they are going it takes 100 feet
True That @@thomasklimchuk441
When they lose their air they do stop real quickly
I have seen first hand the result of unanticipated train movements from someone doing the same thing. I would rather not have to see that again. It is incredibly dumb to even get near a parked train. Those air hoses, though uncommon can randomly pop and send all kinds of debris flying. Even when a train is moving it can derail sending those cars into unknown directions faster than you can get away. When we are parked I let people walk up to the locomotives and see them up close, especially the kiddos, but that’s only because I’m there to ensure they don’t do anything unsafe and can ask them back up when it’s time for movement. Stay safe out there. Not really a rail fan myself but a lot of us do enjoy seeing you guys out there. We can use a lot of these videos to bring awareness to the ridiculous PSR non sense and what we go through on the job. Keep videoing and posting them. It actually helps railroaders in a funny kind of way.
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So you anticipated it🤪
I love how you can just hear the cars straining as the locomotive begines to take up the slaxk to get moving again
Holy crap, I remember this day very well
I can see the train tracks from my school, and I looked out the window right after my last class and I saw that train stopped, and I wondered what happened. As soon as I left school, i ran towards downtown RO and I just had never seen something like this happen before. I got to the other side of the tracks by going under 11 Mile Rd, and I also saw people climbing in between the train cars, which is not a very good idea. I think it took about an hour and a half for the train to leave, but I do remember seeing another train on the other track going slowly past, which I don’t know what that was about
So yeah, it was very confusing for me because I didn’t know what happened
15:40 THATS ME!!! I obviously didn’t know that somebody was filming, so I decided to walk across and look to see if there was anything else
Haha! I was wondering who that was or what was going on… I thought you were a railfan but I was confused when you weren’t recording. That makes sense though! 🤣🤣
@@FlyingEagleTVyeah, I was filming earlier when the train was stopped
WOW! I'll bet that made the evening news. Enormous train aggravates enormous crowds at rush hour. 😮
I'm amazed at how fast that train stopped..... especially if those automobile haulers had vehicles in them
They aren't as heavy as you would think.
In that direction those car haulers are empty
Empty SB, loaded with Fords going NB.
@@FlyingEagleTV So no real cars ... just Fords ... 😆
I thought the train had no end.
Light load and good thing not going faster or take another 1/4 mile to stop... ..miss watching the trains.....thanks....for sharing...going to watch more and enjoy some pop and popcorn 🍿..oh new subscriber..
Live about a mile away from that 11 mile road overpass. Great to hear the train while laying in bed at night. Because of the stretch of no crossings after the station going north you can always tell the train’s direction by the horn. Heading south there are many crossings so you hear the horn getting fainter and fainter.
as an engineer myself i was yelling "your ditchlights are off"
What is a ditch light?
@@suzannemoore4519 those two lights at the bottom of the locomotive. They’re supposed to be on at all times especially when going thru a public crossing.
Drives me insane that many engineers are too incompetent to give their back wall and control stand a once over to make sure the switches and breakers are in the position they should be.
Popped an air line that's why the train stopped so quick
My grandma and grandpa used to live in Royal Oak Michigan right where that CN track goes Norm KOLENDA 1944 from Marlette Michigan
This is a Norm Kolenda 1944 from Marlette Michigan could you please send me a whole bunch of CN freight train videos from down by the tunnel going in the Windsor and could you send me a whole bunch of CN railroad yard pictures if you could appreciate it you have a good November 2 all right wherever you’re from down in Detroit Michigan Waving my hand at you
Those people trying to climb over the train never learned about train safety. ☝️
Seems like a lot of people in that area have their heads up their asses most of the time.
What's that?
Yeah that's true but being late sucks too
@@AudiauxAudio If you die, you are late to everything forever
@@AudiauxAudio Celle qui était à côté de sa bagnole avant l'arrivée du train, tout à coup elle est pressée ?
So many square wheels, it's like a Canadian Southpark train 😜
that was some of the most detailed Graffiti i have ever seen.
The Crow/Raven head, the Tamales, "2MUCH"............ some good art there, now if only they would put that stuff where it was LEGAL these people might actually get recognized for their work and not arrested :D
and yes, that was a pretty fast stop for the speed.
I agree on both points. I gotta wonder, how much overspray of paint ends up on new vehicles. I doubt these are only painted when empty, unless they are carefully guarded all the while loaded.
@@thetriplem2661 in Atlanta alone, ive seen empty car carriers just sit for weeks on end, at places like, Inman, Tilford, Industry and Hulsey Yards.
But when they are at the auto plants, they are contained within fences that have active and roaming Security, and lighting that is STUPID bright.
Its crazy how the actual factories have more security than the yards do.
@@thetriplem2661 Gainesville, which is local to me is apparently going to be getting a small yard itself for NS.
You should see the New York City subway cars! Loaded with graffiti!!!
You guys have some terrific car taggers. ABSOLUTE ART!!
B.s. graffiti is a criminal act and should be treated such.
Absolute trash. Pure eyesore.
NOT art.
Just proves that these trains can stop on a dime...
That's 3 miles down the track!
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Estimating by car lengths from the time to air shot to full stop was about 36 seconds and 1,125 feet.
I bet he was popular with the people of Royal Oak
Ha ha. Good, stressed out yuppies can't wait. You can hear the horns honking in their cars. The pedestrians scrambling acting neurotic.
Look at those mentally defective pedestrians jumping the train. This area is known for numerous deaths in the past. Why do these people take a risk like that?
All the train company has to do is remind the town, who was here 1st, us or you??
@@bethweber9398 Obviously the railroad was. Seems as though some mental defectives in Ferndale don't understand that. Because there's a "NO TRAIN HORN" ordinance. Idiots riding bikes and pedestrians walking in front of trains with no care in the world.
Oh yeah, they knew him by name and address after that I bet
I remember watching a train stop that fast in Royal Oak one Saturday morning in 1986 or 87 when I was at a model train shop on 4th street right next to the corner Coney and a little old lady decided she wanted to walk around the gate. I walked up seconds after the accident before the train had gone but a few car lengths. I love trains but have an extreme respect.
That's one helluva long walk for the conductor
At least it was a long walk but in decent weather. Not like the wide open spaces in the COLD Prairies..
Just a long walk, don't need any cussing ,
I must agree, that's a long as hell walk.
@@jameslashley3970 You call that cussing?
@@jameslashley3970 hold up are you trying to say that when I said that's one helluva walk? Where do you see I cussed at? I'm 60 yrs old I can say whatever the hell I want to say?
This video reminds me of what it's like in Winona, Minnesota. Winona is next to the Mississippi River. Seeing a train with 100 cars that had to keep stopping to do some work on the train was fairly common. Seeing any train with 100 cars on it was extremely common. Now I live in another city in Minnesota that isn't next to the river and it isn't so common to see really long trains.
That's the quickest I've ever seen one stop.
It was pretty quick. Especially considering that pretty much the rest of the train was loaded and was pretty long too.
34 seconds from the air blast to complete stop, impressive
The quickest train to stop that i have seen is in the movie Hancock! lol
That was amazing. I saw a train stop a few days ago in Brentwood, Tn after some MOW workers had went up the way. There was a crunching grinding sound moments before it stopped. Just moments earlier I noticed the signals up the track were off.
Very good. You got it on record. Keep it going.
Yeh buddy!
I'm sitting here watching this train go by and I'm thinking " is there any end to this thing?" And imagine my surprise when I discovered that there is an end to it!
I ran it in double time lol
My count might be off by one or two but it was 131 cars long.
@@Allegheny500 That is about what i counted too.
Surely it must be more than a mile long ?????
I was surprised there was no DPU….or did I doze off due to the mesmerizing effect of endless auto carriers? Lack thereof would explain the length of time to get up speed.
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Out of all the years we have been railfanning we never seen something like this! Unreal catch! Also what was 251's track speed when approaching Washington? 40? 45 mph? Because they were moving and very interesting to see how fast 251 came to stop after mvoing that fast!
On that main it’s either 40 or 45. It changes a lot once you get to Ferndale.. especially going northbound. Yeah it was a first for me. Thanks for watching!
I did a rough guess assuming auto-rack length, and counting time in my head, and came up with around 35 mph. Considerable margin of error in that. Using a stop-watch and better knowledge of car-lengths an accurate estimate could be made.
I counted about a thousand feet of train passing by after the air went down. 90" foot auto-rack length assumed.
When I worked for the RR engineers described handling an auto-rack train was as if they were coupled together with rubber-bands. I don't know if they were prone to dropping air-hoses though.
They have to go faster north bound to climb the grade they go slower going south or downgrade
All I could think watching this is how similar it was to Vietnam. The railways of the USA are Third World. My other reaction was - Hmm. This is supposed to be a fast train? What are the slow ones like?
@@EuroScot2023 unfortunately we have an amazingly exspancive rail network here. But it was made ages ago and is more or less all just freight.
And this is why I always say that Engineers who see a truck on the tracks usually wants to plumb into it at full speed. People argue with me saying that it takes a mile for a train to stop but not when emergency brakes are applied. It stops way faster.
Dude go learn physics.. the train is light and probably has 80 ton per brake, it also running acending a grade
Hopping a live train is truly insane behavior
It's no fun when they are still😂
That train was blocking about 10 grade crossings, must have tied up all of downtown Royal Oak.
S. Washington
W. 4th St.
W. 5th St./Center pedestrian walk.
W. 6th St.
S.Main St.
W. Lincoln Ave.
W. Hudson St.
W. Harrison St.
8 crossings.
@@arthuridis That was just an estimate, on my part, I knew it was quite a few.
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Was the signal drop/emergency an automatic thing, or did they manually dump the air when the signal went red in front of them? Also, do we know why the ditch lights were not illuminated?
Yes it was automatic. Not sure on the ditch lights though
@@FlyingEagleTV Automatic they have some sort of ATC there ?
@@cups3 Trains have Air Traffic Control? /s
The signal dropped and PTC put them in emergency the the air line leaking made then unable to build air.
@Flying Eagle TV why did it go red at the last moment?
It seemed like that train was pulling about 2 miles of containers. There looked more like 300+ of them and what kind of power does a diesel engine have to output to pull that lot? And we moan here in the UK if we have to wait 15 minutes with the gates closed and sitting in cars with engine off twiddling our thumbs. Awesome video
The locomotives seen in the video are EMD SD70s, they output 4,500 hp. GE engines typically put out 4,400 hp
While my math knowledge is rusty and horsepower can't be easily converted to kilonewtons, I think 2 Taurus locomotives would be able to pull this, since a single Taurus has 300kN of pulling force.
I don't know if that force is available at all voltages though.
Right behind the cab is the electric grid that makes electricity from the diesel engine that grid is wired to the traction motor each axle has a traction motor 386K is the tractive effort on each axle
i know a kid that was car hoping. and fell as it was moving. he was in a full cast for a long time. as his leg was almost cut clean off.
Royal Oak had some royal traffic jams for a bit.
I've seen them stop like this in my town on the NS WLR. The last time was because they hit an auto that got stuck on the tracks. No injures though.
Auto racks have long air hoses, sometimes if the train is bunched up (engineer using dynamics instead of air) air hoses can hit the crossing and cause it to go in Emergency.
I’m retired Loco Engineer, 10 years, been there done that.
He could also have a Dynamiter. 89 ft cars are notorious for doing that
That train stopped miraculously fast, especially considering how long it was. Impressive.
Long empty trains stop fairly quickly in most cases.
@ the description says 101 of the 132 cars were loaded, so it was either loaded light or they’ve been on top of the brake maintenance like crazy
@@Truckerboy1234It has been my experience that auto racks stop very well either loaded or empty. There were a significant number of them in this consist. Even loaded those racks usually only weigh. around 90 tons vs 130 for a loaded hopper. The coil cars on the head end were also empty.
As for maintenance the TTX company that owns most of the cars is very proactive. When I worked at an auto unloading facility every car was inspected during the unload process and switching out the bad orders was a big part of the day.
@ okay yeah that explains it then, I was wondering why it stopped so fast despite the majority of cars being loaded
@@alwhalen3488 yes but more than 2/3 of those cars were loaded according to a message near the beginning.
When we were bringing out of frontier yard, i noticed the carman would due up those tri level cars with plastic cable staps on the hosebag gladhands to stop them coming undone when the strack would run or out
Very nice camera. Crystal clear.👍
I think these car haulers are empty. The springs don't look compressed. That could be why it was able to stop so quickly.
auto racks generally have light loads so spring compression isn't always visible
great train video bro ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Of course it's blocking half of the city ..
The tracks were there before the city
Another triumph of PSR! Excellent train handle by vy engineer.
Holy Moly! How many years long was this train?
Around my area(Red Deer, Alberta, Canada) we have trains in excess of 2.6mi/4.2km long. It's not uncommon to have 2 to 5 engines in front, 1 to 3 in the middle, and 1 to 3 on the tail end. The coal trains that supply China's steel mills are literally miles long. Just engines and coal cars.
Hard to believe just the 2 engines pulling something like 130 cars.
8800hp!!
@@darrylowens59 still a lot of weight behind those engines
How many cars in this train? Any law to regulate max number of cars allowed? Where to report the number to regulate number?
A route does have some rules. Essentially in the form of maximum length, maximum weigth and minimum power.
( It’s not exprimed by the number of cars because they are not all the same )
Can an emergency brake application, in and of itself, damage anything?
yes, you can derail a train by dumping it. funny thing is in school we were told to dump it if it was emergency, soon as i went on the road learned real quick not to
BRAKES APPLIED ON IMPACT was my favorite comment on an incident/accident report. No one ever asked what application I made, but it was usually full service first and emergency in about 10 seconds after that.@@TowGuy90
Everythime watching this engine make me remember unstoppable movie😂
Imagine how much railroads must spend having that artwork put on their cars. 🤔
How long is that train? The occasional pounding sound, is that a bad bearing? thanks. heck of a thing to witness.
It's the sound when a wheel/axle with a flat spot goes by. That, in turn, is caused by the wheels sliding locked on the rail when braked hard and under certain conditions as I understand it. I heard quite a few ones pounding in the video myself. At some point, such wheels need to be taken off and rounded/ground back to round. Pounding too much like that is not good for the rail and can cause the wheel/axle to outright fail if the pounding gets strong enough. I'm not a railroad person myself, so railroaders, please correct me and/or supply better details.
@@beltrams Thank you
saw this train later in Pontiac. Youn don't see so many gons on the head head of a long train very often.
Damn, thats a looooooong boy :D
Crossing between tri level is extremely dangerous .worse scenario with emergency brake is deraillement and obstruction of the other track.a set of weels to remove on a few tri.
Crossing through is not only super dangerous it is illegal!
Awesom intasting scary catch of this Canadian National freight with lots of auto racks in it at the most
It just sound like just a pop air hose situation
I’ve also cotton soothing like this with a CSX auto rack but the crew that I cought had a knuckle break
That was a little bit more scary
Impressive tagging .. artistic 😂
We have Burlington Northern/ Santa Fe in the States. I live in Casper Wyoming. Down by the Colorado State line is the Union Pacific. 😊
1:22 The train driver opened a soda can and stopped the train so that he can drink without it spilling.
Boy that's the fastest train I've ever seen. 🤪
You must have seen some really slow trains hahaha.
@@smw381st The whole video showed slow train(s), but the video title said fast train and I didn't see any.
@@cliffords.8341 Lol ok
How many cars was attached to that train?..i was raised by the tracks and I learned Train safety pretty quick..Love trains..Thanks for the video..
situation resolved 👀 💡 👀 how many footbridges or underpasses might've already come to grace these towns since this was filmed..?
Even if they could get the air back up, without the Conductor having to take a walk, they would’ve have that town cut in half for a while. Even recovering the air in the trainline back from zero to 90 pounds takes some time, especially with a land barge train.
I can't imagine how hot those brake pads got.
They were at absolute zero aince this train does not have any brake pads
that train is over two miles long. MONEY MONEY MONEY
Wow! that train stopped quick!
That is what happens when they lose air!
Nice catch😊 how long have you been railfanning?
I lived in Genesee county for 39 years now reside in north east Alabama
Great catch. Thanks.
That train had to been about 2 miles long since each one of those Auto cars are 95 ft long.
I like it at wa8 good one👍
Some wheels sound like they have a flat spot somewhere, it doesn't sound safe, especially at those speeds, it seems to be going at about forty five miles per hour, for a train, that's really fast!!
45mph for a train is painfully slow. Local passenger trains do 90mph where I live and regional trains 125mph.
Even the freight trains run at a minimum of 60mph with new 100mph freight trains on the way.
Good grief! How many cars are in that train????
Fell asleep waiting for the end of it.
It's under 10,000 ft, so around 120 cars
That that video was sure exciting😮.
How do these railroads get by with having such long trains? They not only cause inconvience, seems they would be a safty hazzard!
So when you buy new cars, you might want to rethink, and or almost anything you buy! Do you have any brains🤔
Immense loads of freight are being moved all over the country 24/7. Most of that rail traffic is primarily through rural areas. It's cheaper to move those goods in longer trains.
2MUCH
At 11:45, on the skin of an auto transporter is the finest graffiti I've ever seen! He even planned a slot to leave the car data untouched. So unfortunate this great art talent is wasted...
Gotta kicker or a low hose across the crossing between the racks? You guess is as good as mine????
They say a freight train can't stop on a dime. I say this one stopped on some change. A damn long one too.
The stopping distance of trains is greatly exaggerated by PSA’s and people unfamiliar with trains.
Length shouldn't matter. Each car has brakes.
How long is that train
132 cars... close to 1 1/2 - 2 miles.
The metal wheels can be flattened by emergency braking. Hopefully not the case here.
I heard the dispatcher talking to the maintainer about this. He also had a work train he was going to run behind this one. Thought he was going to run it on main #1. Did you see it go by while this one was stopped?
I heard about that too but I was there for about a good 20 min or so after they were outta sight and never got a signal or visual.. so I went home.
Cool video and channel just subscribed
I know a man who was a track runner in high school made state in the 80s got both legs cut off hopping a train sadly he passed in the late 90s rip Mike
The engineer said the signal dropped and that’s what sent them into emergency.
Ive been on an amtrak trip to here with IDTX 4617 leading. It was on summer of 2021 and never have I known something like this would happen where i've been. Weird
was this in royaloak michigan?
Yes
Royal Oak, MI, MO, AB, or BC?
It could be any of these.
Michigan
this train gave you a really good show, didn’t it!
Excellent Video!!!
I fee bad for the conductor, had to walk that train
just part of the job
What does stretching mean??
Relieving air pressure in the brake lines possibly. Or to lighten the tension with the couplers in between the rail cars.
Pretty sure it's you know, stretching. Giving a little pull so that the cars separate after squishing up together. Contrast 4:03 and 4:50
@@stevecarter8810 Thanks so much. I love learning new things. I can't believe that people would actually go between the cars and jump over the coupler to get to the other side. They don't know when the train could start again!
@@arthuridis Thanks so much for your reply. Imagine the power of the engines to get all those cars moving again.
Interesting that once the slack stretches out it went in emergency AGAIN.
Yeah Yeah What Ever !! My Question is "How Many Cars was That CN train !!! I dont want to watch the the Dang Video Over !! LoL when a Train is carrying Tanks I Pay Attention !! LoL I'm staying at a Nursing home on Grand Ave. West of Harlem Ave. Elmwood Park. Chicago. There are Freight Trains constantly passing by plus the Metra Passenger trains. Its a long Three track crossing. I Think it would be interesting to set up some Webb Cams.
I know it's probably more complicated, but ya if the train had braked like that when a problem was noticed. The whole Ohio thing seems avoidable.
The presence of the CN signal maintainers in the white pickups is purely coincidental
With all those empties up against the headend power, it's a wonder the loads didn't scatter them all over the place. They got very lucky.
empties on the head end are really only an issue if there is excessive trailing tonnage. I can't tell on the auto racks but it looks like most of this train consists of empty cars.
so this is not a good spot to catch out?
Interesting art on the side of the car carriers.
Sorry but I'm new to this. How long was that train?! Seems like miles long.
All trains run pretty fast stay focus on please
How long was that train?
How do they make such fine lines and crisp boarders with rattle cans.
They have specialized spray tips for doing specific things. You should look up graffiti vids on TH-cam, it's really quiet amazing.