Building a Tiny Aluminium Windows 98 Gaming PC: Biostar iDEQ 210V Mini Barebones PC from 2003

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  • A friend got his hands on this awesome barebones PC case/motherboard combo - already populated with a CPU and some memory and I offered to turn it into a tiny Windows 98 powerhouse!
    0:00 - Overview
    1:32 - What's in the box?
    2:58 - It's so tiny (that's what she said)
    4:51 - Disassembly
    5:43 - First power on
    6:21 - Installing Windows 98, Drivers etc.
    8:15 - Testing Half-Life with VIA graphics
    9:21 - More disassembly, and a cleanup
    12:18 - Time for a 'new' GPU
    13:18 - Of course DOOM II is going to run great
    13:44 - GTA III (2001)
    14:13 - Half-Life (1998)
    14:24 - SimCity 2000 (1994)
    14:38 - Graphics benchmark comparison
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  • @Badhead1970
    @Badhead1970 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That metal.thing around the CPU was a copper shim. I had. As the Athlon chip is exposed and has no metal heat spreader on it, it is possible to tighten the cooler too.much and crush it. The shim prevented that. Very handy.

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I discovered this after uploading - It's a clever precaution. The one that was included here felt very handmade!

    • @puciohenzap891
      @puciohenzap891 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow, this brings back some memories, truly. My first rig was an Athlon XP 2600+ back in 2003. I actually managed to chip off a bit of the die in one of the corners when installing the cooler but it still kept working. It was a pretty robust setup with only the motherboard and power supply giving up the ghost once. I think I even ran Vista/7 on it before moving on to an i7 920 when they came out.
      Please do check all the capacitors, mainly in the power supply, in stuff from that era they like to go pop and smoke or simply leak.

    • @user-og5mv5ji8k
      @user-og5mv5ji8k ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@puciohenzap891fair comment agrees

  • @aublak7492
    @aublak7492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool. I always wanted to make a mini retro PC, but manufacturers didn't cater to small factor builds as much as they do today.

  • @songsan807
    @songsan807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remembered buying this exact one and a few Shuttle mini-PC for about $120-$200 each back in the 1990s. These were great because they were small and you can stack them up.
    About 2012 I went to a yard sale and a man sold me 6 of these for $5 each because he had no use for them. If you install anything newer than Win98, it runs slow. With Win98, the version of IE or any other browsers are not supported so can't use the Internet.
    So this either have to be use for a retro gaming machine or put Linux on.

  • @ste76539
    @ste76539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's an awful lot like my XPC Shuttle SD32G20. The front is slightly different, I don't have any kind of sliding door for instance, no optical audio but the drive bays are layed out the same. Around the back it is almost identical, although with my shuttle being a bit newer I think they got the layout more organised. The expansion slot bays are identical. Clearly the bones of the cases both came from the same stable. My PSU is different, its laid out front to back instead of above the rear like yours. And yes, the caps were bad and needed changing! I remember XPC being a big thing in the early 2000's here in the UK, claiming to be different to all the other more traditional manufacturers (obviously not though eh?) - they were quite big with the early car pc crowd for obvious reasons. Very interesting!

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว

      When I lived in the UK i saw plenty of XPC units for sale second hand! They must have been really popular.

  • @implozia1360
    @implozia1360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting! Would love to look for a system like this!

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว

      You and me both! It was hard handing this over to my friend after I restored this one!

    • @sqxbarto9229
      @sqxbarto9229 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shuttle makes similar (but way newer) barebones. I remember checking an iDEQ barebone system decades ago and liked it but never had one. Now I have a mini ITX system, which is a bit bigger but has full-size components.

  • @retroboby007
    @retroboby007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice win98 pc. In doom, just take a step back at the beginning to get the chainsaw.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is awesome.

  • @prozacgodretro
    @prozacgodretro ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a system builder back in the era of this cpu, that copper thing on the cpu was a shim, it was found to be required at least I was told at the time, that it was because it prevented end users from rocking the cpu cooler and cracking the cpu chiplet's corners. I've ran one without it but it really does move around a lot. (It is OEM, btw)

  • @RoyHess666
    @RoyHess666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, that reminds me on a barebone PC I bought off of eBay but it never was shipped (at least I got my monnies back)

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my favorite cleaner for plastics is ammonia-free window cleaner. it's not as strong as IPA but works just as well, and smells nice too

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good call - I used a multi-purpose cleaner spray on the side and top panels as I should've on the plastic as well! I'll keep some glass cleaner around in the future

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arizonapalms ammonia free is important. ammonia is bad for plastics

  • @jobbigvolvo8613
    @jobbigvolvo8613 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else noticed the Pentium 4 heat-sink on an AMD system? =)
    No doubt that's the reason they added the copper shim from the factory, the P4 HSF mounting has a MUCH higher mounting pressure then the Socket A one, and AMD CPU's were prone to cracked dies back then.
    This is probably a 2002'ish system, and while ITX dates back to 2001 these SFF systems used proprietary sized motherboards.
    And pretty much all of them suffered from bad thermals that cooked components, especially the PSU's.
    The earlier of these shoe-box SFF's also caught the tail end of the capacitor plague.
    All this meant that many of them got scrapped way before anyone thought to save them.
    Got an Ideq 300g myself, and while it looks similar to this system the chassis is completely different.
    It folds open like a crocodile, making access to the components really easy =)

  • @robd1365
    @robd1365 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the same model with an XP 2600 and also had the branded carrying case. Our company sold them and remember getting a few returns due to motherboard faults.

  • @devicemodder
    @devicemodder 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an even smaller formfactor win 98 box. It runs on a PC/104 board and is in a 5 × 5 × 2 inch enclosure. Runs from a 5V USB port.

  • @l3lue7hunder12
    @l3lue7hunder12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. 🤓
    The VIA Unichrome ... well worked but didn't work well, so without a dedicated GPU this one likely wasn't meant for any LAN parties.
    But many used those as office PCs or NAS, for which they were well suited. If combined with a 2.1 sound system they also make for a great multimedia system.

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Onboard graphics were surprisingly OK - I could see it handling late 90's games without much fuss, but theres AGP anyway so it would be silly not to.

  • @MotownBatman
    @MotownBatman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently found a cube form factor pc like this at a eWaste place outside of Detroit
    Its a ShuttlePC SB75G2, Im restoring it, going to Max its upgrades out like its 2k4.
    Very similar to this

  • @GomerJ
    @GomerJ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice- I just came across one of these and my first question was “what the eff is an iDeq?”
    Now I think I’ll hang onto it and tinker a bit. This video will be a great help.

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Basically a wish.com Shuttle XPC - still awesome tho

  • @pharrohku5922
    @pharrohku5922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2 of these Mini PC but mine are the Shuttle Xpc branded . one with Althon xp chiplike yours and other one with a P4 chip

  • @devicemodder
    @devicemodder 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to have an old Shuttle XPC SB61G2..

  • @prozacgodretro
    @prozacgodretro ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a couple shuttle computers of this era, one p4 one athlon xp

  • @Aruneh
    @Aruneh ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, looks like a Shuttle clone on the outside, but internally it’s quite different

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda what I was thinking too

  • @wiwingmargahayu6831
    @wiwingmargahayu6831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    salam or greetings from island near australia or new zealand

  • @prozacgodretro
    @prozacgodretro ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, where do you live and how do I join this lan party !! HAHA!! I miss lan parties.

  • @danteblake9701
    @danteblake9701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not dual boot with linux or multiboot 9X, XP & 32bit Linux?
    I suggest a 500gb hd & goodpci soundcard with a gameport.

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think eventually we're going to dual boot XP after a hard drive upgrade, and use the SATA interface instead of the IDE one (provided good Win98 compatibility)

  • @leeharveydarke
    @leeharveydarke ปีที่แล้ว

    SCO Linux could be Sun/Cisco/Oracle? Wild guess 🤣

    • @canopus5498
      @canopus5498 ปีที่แล้ว

      sco unix was a server oriented commercial operating system for x86 machines.

  • @hismastersvoice2729
    @hismastersvoice2729 ปีที่แล้ว

    "eye deck or, eye dick" nice mistake but realy this was good Windows 98 SE PC back in the days. Great video!

    • @arizonapalms
      @arizonapalms  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't work out how you're meant to pronounce it!

  • @curtisoneill9929
    @curtisoneill9929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dm me if you want an idev vinyl sticker logo to replace what wiped off.