I don't usually comment on videos, but this guide is so good I feel like it deserves it. Thank you for making such an amazing guide, it will be very helpful once I get some skills up.
I've been watching a lot of Abyss content to figure out an upgrade path for myself and this video is by far the most comprehensive guide on every aspect of the fit, how to use it and most critically what the challenges are in each room with examples and explanations. Great job! Like the other commenter said, I wish the test server was up. I have a feeling you can go much, much cheaper than this into a t5 but I haven't the bank to yeet hundreds of millions on a hunch. But if I had to pick a build to go with I'd take this one specifically because of the great exposition you have here. Edit: You had me at BoC
Glad you liked the music! And the video :p You probably could make a cheaper fit work, but I'm not sure how much cheaper you can go before it isn't 100% safe anymore. Besides, it's very useful to have a blingy ship for those long grinding sessions, you don't have to hyperfocus on every hard wave. It's like a 1000 mile roadtrip, would you rather do it in a new Mercedes or a 1998 Honda? ;)
@@man2meandyou Here's an unasked-for update. I bought it and did about 20+ runs. Short version: goddamn this thing is as stress-free as you said. It's as chill as my povertila, maybe even more. Long version: I was coming into T5 from the T4 Gamma povertila fit. I was quite scared of it because I wasn't considering Gamma's effect on enemy shields - it was all I ever knew so I never had to think about it too hard. Turns out in T5 electric enemy ships also have less shield hp which in my (admittedly limited) experience means that the clear times are only slightly slower in T5. It also means that while there are more enemy ships to contend with, they tend to die quite a bit faster, especially because of the fit's bling and the lowered EM resist. Pile on top of that the fact that Amarr drones track the best and it's just a great time for this ship and fit. I've contended with very bad Sansha and Karen rooms but you undersold the fit's neut resistance - this puts Sansha as higher danger level than Karen rooms for me. The worst I've had only required juggling some heat, drone targeting, but no drugs yet. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. For my part I'm spreading your guide as far and wide as I can.
@@Haiatola Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad it's working well for you :D Yep, electrical abyss has a capacitor recharge bonus, that's how the neut resistance is so good. The only room I'd get scared about it in would be a 4x starving Vedmak wave with a red cloud spawn. It's interesting you said you had bad Sansha rooms, I've never had an issue with them, if you can stay away from the Knights it's trivial. The Angel/Cynabal rooms are the scariest for me, the one in the video is still the hardest wave I've encountered yet. Otherwise, this fit makes T5 abyss a relaxing activity for sure :p Happy grinding!
@@man2meandyou The hardest Sansha room I had put a ton of damps and knights on me. The distance between my lock range and their effective weapons range was about 10km so by the time I hit the edge of the arena I hadn't killed much and was taking some damage. It wasn't hard apart from that 'oh fuck' moment tho - heated the hardeners and kept moving. It's more that this happened zero times in T4 so it's definitely a skill issue :D might've been a -70% EM resist on top
use passive Gila fit, if you have mastery 4 that is unbeatable ship. Only problem is that you will earn much more isk soloing t2 Hawk dark. T4 abyss is utter garbage for isk earning. You usually get -5( yes, there are runs where you wont get your money back for damn 9mil keys, about once per 30 runs) to 15mil earnings( after paying for keys and ammo, expecting to get 100% of evaluated price). Do not believe people telling you you will earn 30mil isk per T4 run...it is just stories. Even contributors stopped playing T4 abyss due to low isk.
@@Blento0404otnelB I have an Alpha account right now and almost all skills, except light missiles, are maxed out for Gila. I've been running modified Povertilla in T3 Exotics and now Electricals, but also tried one run in T4 Exotic. I suppose I was lucky to get roughly 22 million from that run. Can you please be more specific about the passive fit? I've heard good things, but I am afraid to try it.
@@imaginarystranger1974 This is my fit. IT IS FOR GAMMA, sorry for caps but it must be said so that you do not take it to electric. No imlpants needed( with mastery 4(!) for Gila). No drugs. [Gila, Gamma] Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Pithum A-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Valkyrie II x4 Republic Fleet Valkyrie x4 Inferno Fury Light Missile x2720 Scourge Fury Light Missile x1532 Raging Gamma Filament x4
@@imaginarystranger1974 I died once to karen, I was tired and sleepy. when fighting karen, lock her, send drones and run the opposite way, keep the distance over 80km. Kill one ship with your missiles and use remaining missiles to shoot at another, by that time your drones should get karen to low HP so you can start going towards main loot. Soon after karen should be talking to a manager, send drones to ship that slows you down then kill all battery suckers. In Angel room kill big Elite ships first. In Marshal room kill all Aresta big ships first. with karen- you run away. Everything else you go strait for loot cache. I never go for additional loot, it is couple of mil extra, not worth it in my opinion. Runs are usually 10-15min, very rarely 16, NEVER 17+. Those times are with only main loot taking. These are my loot from last 40 runs. Be advised, those two "200" mil runs are actually 15 and 20mil, they are new items and price went down hard. Every run cost me 9mil, that cost was not included in these numbers. #of run/minutes taken/loot 1-11m-21 2-18m-9 3-13m-10 4-15m-25 5-13m-17 6-15m-15 7-12m-13 8-11m-241 9-12m-18 10-13m-39 -- -- 408( 408) -- -- 11-12m-34 12-15m-8 13-14m-38 14-15m-50 15-10m-14 16-11m-52 17-12m-10 18-15m-11 19-12m-14 20-16m-15 -- -- 246 ( 654) -- -- 21-14m-18 22-14m-40 23-12m-53 24-14m-27 25-14m-16 26-16m-31 27-10m-215 28-12m-16 29-15m-9 30-14m-34 -- -- 459( 1113) -- -- 31-11m-15 32-13m-8 33-11m-60 34-11m-21 35-12m-14 36-12m-45 37-15m-8 38-14m-15 39-12m-35 40-13m-49 -- -- 270( total 1383/1mil) -- -- Sold for 957mil in Jita. Those two items were not 200mil each, but 15 and 20mil :((=
It's up to you where you run abyss, high-sec (0.6 or lower for T5 abyss) is closer to Jita so you can sell your loot and buy filaments easily, but some systems have regular suicide gankers. Check on zkillboard for safe systems. Doing it in null, you're further away, and there's less people overall but any neutral can be a threat. Up to you really.
The omega implant isn't necessary for the fit but if you have it, definitely keep it. Doesn't make sense to replace a 230m isk 25% shield boost implant for a 20m isk 3% cap boost :P
Yes, for most enemy types EM will do 30-50% more damage than Kinetic missiles. Only exception is the sleeper cruisers that only have 10% but rapid light launchers take too long to switch so I don't bother.
Why not T2 launchers? Is it your CPU/Powergrid? I can fit them and get 10dps more from Light Spec skill. Plus longer inbetween reloading. Otherwise, thanks, going to use this.
I died once in a t4 electrical from burning out my hardeners and getting sansha in the next room. My gila is now blinged more and I use a crystal pod but I want to test the fit in the test server first. I am bitch.
This is NOT 250isk per hour fit. UNLESS you already removed 25mil per abyss key per run? So, lets say 4 runs per hour, that ould be 100mil for four keys- this is 150mil isk per hour game. Yeah.
The price of the filaments is included in the profit, check the runs abysstracker.com/run/a3a35399-8b20-4875-8cce-b949aa885e66. It's 350mil/hr if you want to exclude them.
Is that so? I'd like to know any of the details of your run. Did you fly away from them in the beginning or did you go straight into them? How many were there? How much incoming DPS? Did you overheat the hardeners and the booster? Did you pop the +25% shield boost drugs? I managed a 6 Kiki + 3 Rodiva wave in the video with no issues, I wonder where the problem was for you.
First i burned towards the Gate and orbited within 5000. I then immediately targeted the Rodivas, but then my drones got sniped left and right Couldnt even pull them back as they almost died instantly. They shot 8 in total, there was really nothing i could do about it as they got targeted the second i launched them. So i was left with just my Boosters and Missiles. As i tought about the Situation afterwards i really have no idea what i could have done better... Even if i survived that it would have been more like 100% Stress and 1% Survival rate. Skills are also as shown in the Video.
guys a legend
Active tanking a gila is definitely a different approach but I can't argue with the fact that it works. Great video and good run.
I don't usually comment on videos, but this guide is so good I feel like it deserves it. Thank you for making such an amazing guide, it will be very helpful once I get some skills up.
Amazing video. I was doing lower tiers, and this is what i needed to move up
I've been watching a lot of Abyss content to figure out an upgrade path for myself and this video is by far the most comprehensive guide on every aspect of the fit, how to use it and most critically what the challenges are in each room with examples and explanations. Great job!
Like the other commenter said, I wish the test server was up. I have a feeling you can go much, much cheaper than this into a t5 but I haven't the bank to yeet hundreds of millions on a hunch. But if I had to pick a build to go with I'd take this one specifically because of the great exposition you have here.
Edit: You had me at BoC
Glad you liked the music! And the video :p
You probably could make a cheaper fit work, but I'm not sure how much cheaper you can go before it isn't 100% safe anymore.
Besides, it's very useful to have a blingy ship for those long grinding sessions, you don't have to hyperfocus on every hard wave.
It's like a 1000 mile roadtrip, would you rather do it in a new Mercedes or a 1998 Honda? ;)
You know what? You've convinced me. New Mercedes it is!
@@man2meandyou Here's an unasked-for update. I bought it and did about 20+ runs. Short version: goddamn this thing is as stress-free as you said. It's as chill as my povertila, maybe even more.
Long version:
I was coming into T5 from the T4 Gamma povertila fit. I was quite scared of it because I wasn't considering Gamma's effect on enemy shields - it was all I ever knew so I never had to think about it too hard. Turns out in T5 electric enemy ships also have less shield hp which in my (admittedly limited) experience means that the clear times are only slightly slower in T5. It also means that while there are more enemy ships to contend with, they tend to die quite a bit faster, especially because of the fit's bling and the lowered EM resist. Pile on top of that the fact that Amarr drones track the best and it's just a great time for this ship and fit.
I've contended with very bad Sansha and Karen rooms but you undersold the fit's neut resistance - this puts Sansha as higher danger level than Karen rooms for me. The worst I've had only required juggling some heat, drone targeting, but no drugs yet.
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. For my part I'm spreading your guide as far and wide as I can.
@@Haiatola Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad it's working well for you :D
Yep, electrical abyss has a capacitor recharge bonus, that's how the neut resistance is so good. The only room I'd get scared about it in would be a 4x starving Vedmak wave with a red cloud spawn.
It's interesting you said you had bad Sansha rooms, I've never had an issue with them, if you can stay away from the Knights it's trivial. The Angel/Cynabal rooms are the scariest for me, the one in the video is still the hardest wave I've encountered yet. Otherwise, this fit makes T5 abyss a relaxing activity for sure :p Happy grinding!
@@man2meandyou The hardest Sansha room I had put a ton of damps and knights on me. The distance between my lock range and their effective weapons range was about 10km so by the time I hit the edge of the arena I hadn't killed much and was taking some damage. It wasn't hard apart from that 'oh fuck' moment tho - heated the hardeners and kept moving. It's more that this happened zero times in T4 so it's definitely a skill issue :D might've been a -70% EM resist on top
testing this today, all in .. btw thanks for the guide, super helpful !
lovely guide!
Anyone take this to t6? What upgrades would make it work there?
I'd say abyssal rolled modules and mutated drones
Hey mate, thanks for the video, would you say the fit still works?
Excelente.
What ehp/s and dps would you recommend for T4 Exotic? Great video!
use passive Gila fit, if you have mastery 4 that is unbeatable ship.
Only problem is that you will earn much more isk soloing t2 Hawk dark.
T4 abyss is utter garbage for isk earning.
You usually get -5( yes, there are runs where you wont get your money back for damn 9mil keys, about once per 30 runs) to 15mil earnings( after paying for keys and ammo, expecting to get 100% of evaluated price).
Do not believe people telling you you will earn 30mil isk per T4 run...it is just stories.
Even contributors stopped playing T4 abyss due to low isk.
@@Blento0404otnelB I have an Alpha account right now and almost all skills, except light missiles, are maxed out for Gila.
I've been running modified Povertilla in T3 Exotics and now Electricals, but also tried one run in T4 Exotic. I suppose I was lucky to get roughly 22 million from that run.
Can you please be more specific about the passive fit? I've heard good things, but I am afraid to try it.
@@imaginarystranger1974 This is my fit. IT IS FOR GAMMA, sorry for caps but it must be said so that you do not take it to electric.
No imlpants needed( with mastery 4(!) for Gila).
No drugs.
[Gila, Gamma]
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Pithum A-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Valkyrie II x4
Republic Fleet Valkyrie x4
Inferno Fury Light Missile x2720
Scourge Fury Light Missile x1532
Raging Gamma Filament x4
@@imaginarystranger1974 I died once to karen, I was tired and sleepy.
when fighting karen, lock her, send drones and run the opposite way, keep the distance over 80km.
Kill one ship with your missiles and use remaining missiles to shoot at another, by that time your drones should get karen to low HP so you can start going towards main loot.
Soon after karen should be talking to a manager, send drones to ship that slows you down then kill all battery suckers.
In Angel room kill big Elite ships first.
In Marshal room kill all Aresta big ships first.
with karen- you run away.
Everything else you go strait for loot cache.
I never go for additional loot, it is couple of mil extra, not worth it in my opinion.
Runs are usually 10-15min, very rarely 16, NEVER 17+.
Those times are with only main loot taking.
These are my loot from last 40 runs.
Be advised, those two "200" mil runs are actually 15 and 20mil, they are new items and price went down hard.
Every run cost me 9mil, that cost was not included in these numbers.
#of run/minutes taken/loot
1-11m-21
2-18m-9
3-13m-10
4-15m-25
5-13m-17
6-15m-15
7-12m-13
8-11m-241
9-12m-18
10-13m-39
-- --
408( 408)
-- --
11-12m-34
12-15m-8
13-14m-38
14-15m-50
15-10m-14
16-11m-52
17-12m-10
18-15m-11
19-12m-14
20-16m-15
-- --
246 ( 654)
-- --
21-14m-18
22-14m-40
23-12m-53
24-14m-27
25-14m-16
26-16m-31
27-10m-215
28-12m-16
29-15m-9
30-14m-34
-- --
459( 1113)
-- --
31-11m-15
32-13m-8
33-11m-60
34-11m-21
35-12m-14
36-12m-45
37-15m-8
38-14m-15
39-12m-35
40-13m-49
-- --
270( total 1383/1mil)
-- --
Sold for 957mil in Jita.
Those two items were not 200mil each, but 15 and 20mil :((=
@@imaginarystranger1974 did youtube deleted my posts? fking hell
Hi Exodus The videos are great. I have a general question! What role does it play whether I fly in NULL-SEC or HIGH-SEC Abyss?
It's up to you where you run abyss, high-sec (0.6 or lower for T5 abyss) is closer to Jita so you can sell your loot and buy filaments easily, but some systems have regular suicide gankers. Check on zkillboard for safe systems. Doing it in null, you're further away, and there's less people overall but any neutral can be a threat. Up to you really.
I see that you do not have an omega implant, but instead have a squire in slot 6. I currently have omega, but should I drop it for squire?
The omega implant isn't necessary for the fit but if you have it, definitely keep it. Doesn't make sense to replace a 230m isk 25% shield boost implant for a 20m isk 3% cap boost :P
@@man2meandyou Thanks! Just wanted to be sure that 3% cap was not mission critical haha
is it deffo worth using the Mjilnor because of resistances over scourge for gila bonus?
Yes, for most enemy types EM will do 30-50% more damage than Kinetic missiles. Only exception is the sleeper cruisers that only have 10% but rapid light launchers take too long to switch so I don't bother.
Why not T2 launchers? Is it your CPU/Powergrid? I can fit them and get 10dps more from Light Spec skill. Plus longer inbetween reloading.
Otherwise, thanks, going to use this.
I died once in a t4 electrical from burning out my hardeners and getting sansha in the next room. My gila is now blinged more and I use a crystal pod but I want to test the fit in the test server first. I am bitch.
Damn! Well, the test server seems to be closed.. indefinitely 😂 so good luck
@@man2meandyou I've heard it'll be back this month. Fingers crossed
how to get the DPS tracker?
It's on Github, github.com/ArtificialQualia/PyEveLiveDPS
5:52 - you forgot to loot main cache...
5:07
@@man2meandyou There is one more, care to find it?
This is NOT 250isk per hour fit.
UNLESS you already removed 25mil per abyss key per run?
So, lets say 4 runs per hour, that ould be 100mil for four keys- this is 150mil isk per hour game.
Yeah.
The price of the filaments is included in the profit, check the runs abysstracker.com/run/a3a35399-8b20-4875-8cce-b949aa885e66. It's 350mil/hr if you want to exclude them.
Nah bro... died on the 3rd Wave to Kikimoras, everything was used as mentioned in the Video.
Cant recommend
Is that so? I'd like to know any of the details of your run. Did you fly away from them in the beginning or did you go straight into them? How many were there? How much incoming DPS? Did you overheat the hardeners and the booster? Did you pop the +25% shield boost drugs? I managed a 6 Kiki + 3 Rodiva wave in the video with no issues, I wonder where the problem was for you.
First i burned towards the Gate and orbited within 5000.
I then immediately targeted the Rodivas, but then my drones got sniped left and right
Couldnt even pull them back as they almost died instantly.
They shot 8 in total, there was really nothing i could do about it as they got targeted the second i launched them.
So i was left with just my Boosters and Missiles.
As i tought about the Situation afterwards i really have no idea what i could have done better...
Even if i survived that it would have been more like 100% Stress and 1% Survival rate.
Skills are also as shown in the Video.
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TH-cam is deleting my comments on my own video because retardation. Read that ^