A quick note. Targets become clickable in space before they become clickable in the overview. The overview has a small delay. If you're quick, targeting them in space is a bit faster.
Is the delay worth the effort tho? Seems rather unreasonable to Flick on them which also takes 0,2sec average reaction time to See and ofc tracking and hitting them. Spamming the overlay seems more consistant over all
Just a point, instead of using CTRL Left click, use Q, left click, it'll lock and youll be approaching automatically as long as you have your weapon cycled.
Great video, I've just started playing Eve Online and this is exactly what I was looking for. Just a heads up, I noticed in your fit under the description you have listed the Core Probe Launcher II x1 which requires Omega status to use, as I see in the video its meant to be a Core Probe Launcher I. Confused me a bit when I simulated the fit
Hey man, thanks for the feedback. There's actually 2 fittings in the description. One is the fit I fly in the video, and the other is the optimal fit at the end of the video. The optimal fit isn't alpha friendly, but you're right I should have made that more clear
Cute. Bonus points if you set dscan to a very low range and actually jump into the wh before the target arrives on grid. You might want to add this point to the video since it teaches the importance of dscan to newbies.
Very inspirational vid I’m gonna try this later on I really enjoy using surprising ships and fits for pvp like the battle venture etc keep up the good work sir o7
nice vid! If you know you might have to go for the decloak. Press SHIFT-V before you click on the enemy. Your camera will lock onto it. Then not just press approach but slightly to the left/right/up/down to it depending on the direction he will try to escape. This way, you are already on the way to your target and can easily go for a decloak.
Very impressive idea you have there; since I joined the game, I've always wanted to do cloaky hunting, but since that requires a roughly 100m ship minimum, it can be hard for new players to learn. This method though allows you to experience something similar with a much lower price tag.
I do most of my Solo PvP in an Astero, although the fit is not cheap (300-350 Mil). It’s hilarious what a beating this ship can take and I can make some ISK on the way doing exploration.
This is a great little guide to some easy explorer bashing. Only thing I would do different would be rockets instead of Blasters. Maybe less DPS on paper with day one skills, but your application will be steady, instead of the odd miss every few shots with blasters due to tracking. And it'll have better range.
I remember my first solo kill. I was in a Wormhole corp and someone in a manticore tried to solo me in a PVP fit Rapid Light Missile Caracal. Needless to say it didn't go well for the Manticore.
Manticore was not thinking clearly haha. Mine was my first visit to nullsec. Back when I was super green. Yeeted a pulse exe into sov null, made it a few jumps into their space before a small gang was tailing me. Tackle condor landed on me, I pointed and erased him. Right before the rest of the gang landed and finished me. 😅
A great idea i just had, scan down all wh within one jump of trade hub, stick at major trade hub (especially if its smaller) wait for a wh ship to undock, and track it and look what gate it goes to, follow it, jump to ur already scanned wormhole, and lie in wait. Could work imma try it
haha , you earned a sub , i am off to try this asap :D that soldier of fortune air challenges are pain in the ass... great idea to spam those challenges , basically for free and it's fun as well.
quick question, i figured id try this out because why not. I've now been waiting at a wormhole for more than an hour and a half. is that normal timing?
@@EVEILOnline I ended up having to get off about half an hour after posting this to go eat dinner and get ready for bed, and now that I think about it yea probably wasn’t the best day to do it lol
This i clever and in fact you could start pvp at day one with this method. But it's more like ganking. This fit would never work in a proper fight. And the problem is that you are not learning pvp if target never fights back. And if he did, any normal pvp fit would destroy this one. So you are not giving yourself opportunity to engage in a proper 1v1. Still i like the spirit of this one. You start your career as an outlaw so it's better chance that you will not become carebear :)
I seem to be missing something. I’ve done exactly what you have done, strategy wise, and fit wise the same and I have more DPS. I tracked a total of 8 targets into the WH. Mostly T1 frigates. They all are placed relatively close to the WH when they warp in and I preload my weapons and when I click on the target sometimes it says they are invulnerable and I also can’t kill them. They all are able to get back to the gate I will try a double web and 1 scram this time but I don’t understand how you were able to get 4 so effortlessly but 8 got away from me.
With wormholes, targets appear at varying distances from the wormhole. It is even possible to appear within the jump range of the hole, in which case it is impossible to catch them before they jump. You may have just been unlucky. Recommend recording yourself if you can, and watch the clips back later. How many km away did they appear? You'll be able to review what happened.
All the kills happen in wormhole space, which is treated the same as null sec. I.e. no security status hit, no killrights against you. It is completely lawless space. No consequences for killing pods
I got my first kills by pretending to be a hacker and killing other herons that were hacking cans in the same site lol They must have thought they needed to hack faster to beat me lol I wonder if I can do this with a double web cruiser
You can earn isk this way, but not much. Most explorers jumping into a wormhole are empty, so the best you can hope for is a sisters probe launcher to drop. You're better off doing anything else for isk
Bleh. All you did was make a brand new player trying out the game to quite. This is called griefing. Now the better idea would be to sucker a PVP player into attacking you, scram him and then have a friend and you take him out. Now that would have been awesome.
@@EVEILOnline In rereading my post, I see that I may have been more direct and judgmental than I should have been. For that I apologize. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Happy flying.
it's funny how all these videos they say " nice loot pays 8x the ship cost" ...in a real scenario any new player will die 9 out of 10 times :)) and when you are 20+ systems away from a trade hub you don't jump back to sell a measly 8mil loot that turns to be 4 mil after taxes and market pricing :D ..you go on until someone else kills you :D 🤣🤣🤣🤣 pro players in eve creating "how to as a new players" are like Myke Tyson in his prime pretending he has never boxed and proving how to dodge some random guy's punches and be cost effective :D The real scenario is day 1 alpha guy realizes he can't skill into anything effective. Buys sub for 20$, buys plex for 30$, sells quickly below market price...now he has 2bil isk , that's like 400 frigs with decent fit. He looses 15 of them to destroyers and 3x gangs randomly every yellow and blue system and then moves up to destroyers , looses 20 of them to frigates then goes on forum to rage. He's made fun of and deletes the game but comes back a week later begging a null corp to adopt him cause he won't take a 50$ loss 🤣🤣🤣proceeds to loose 9 out of 10 engagements but since he's a fleet drone, now he gets all the ships for free until he feels guilty enough to sub a second account and start mining to "prove he can fund his own pvp" to the guild. Spends some 1 bill on injectors to speed up his mining alt. Two months later he finally has a clue on how some modules counter each other and how to properly fly one type of frigate but everytime you properly fly your frigate solo, you're only running into people flying precisely what counters your frigate so it's no good, back to fleet droning.
I'm not sure if you watched the video, but I did this as a day1 alpha pilot to show that you don't NEED loads of skills to get your first kill. I also state to camp the systems next door to Jita. I.e. you're literally 1 jump from the biggest trade hub in the game to sell your loot. Add to that the method is essentially spam click your overview until the target appears, I challenge you to find an easier way to get your first legitimate pvp kill outside of ganking. Sounds like you had a pretty rough start to the game if that was your experience. I assume you are talking from experience? This is why I'm suggesting an alternative to the often suggested faction warfare route into pvp. If all you're fighting are ships that counter yours, you're doing something wrong. Try this method, you only need to memorise the 4 basic T1 exploration frigates, those are your targets. If anything else comes by, just jump through the wormhole back to safety...
@@EVEILOnline nah my eve experience was mostly harmless and easy, my was meant to be funny not an attack or anything 🤣 but seriously any day 1 alpha new playah would prolly die 15 times by just entering a wh around jita and figuring out wtf is going on. That shouldnt stop them from trying tho. Matter of fact, I'll boot up my old account and try this.
I think you missed the point of the video. It is a guide for new players to get their first pvp kill. Killing other new players is a great way to do that. Though assuming someone is new because they're in a T1 exploration frigate is a bit silly. If you enter wormhole space, you are a fair target regardless of your age. Also, how is killing other players not pvp?
I'm an experienced explorer and I fly Herons precisely because I can lose one from time to time but still be making 50m - 150m / hr and just not worry about it. I'd make a valid target for a newb doing this (though I'd likely at least throw my drones out to create some chaos that might help me escape.) This is Eve.
pvp = player versus player, so it is pvp by definition.. If you want to be safe while exploring stay in highsec. I'm also a newbie, but when I go into a wh or nullsec I take the risk of being killed.
lol this is so lame you know eve inside out and think any new player can do this lol "pssst I got a used bridge for sale very well maintained going real cheap"
You think this is harder than getting a kill in faction warfare? That's the usual suggestion for new pilots looking to get into pvp. This is about as easy as it gets
A quick note. Targets become clickable in space before they become clickable in the overview. The overview has a small delay. If you're quick, targeting them in space is a bit faster.
Is the delay worth the effort tho? Seems rather unreasonable to Flick on them which also takes 0,2sec average reaction time to See and ofc tracking and hitting them. Spamming the overlay seems more consistant over all
12 years in, still learning new shit. ⬆
Just a point, instead of using CTRL Left click, use Q, left click, it'll lock and youll be approaching automatically as long as you have your weapon cycled.
Great video, I've just started playing Eve Online and this is exactly what I was looking for. Just a heads up, I noticed in your fit under the description you have listed the Core Probe Launcher II x1 which requires Omega status to use, as I see in the video its meant to be a Core Probe Launcher I. Confused me a bit when I simulated the fit
Hey man, thanks for the feedback. There's actually 2 fittings in the description. One is the fit I fly in the video, and the other is the optimal fit at the end of the video. The optimal fit isn't alpha friendly, but you're right I should have made that more clear
Cute. Bonus points if you set dscan to a very low range and actually jump into the wh before the target arrives on grid. You might want to add this point to the video since it teaches the importance of dscan to newbies.
Very inspirational vid I’m gonna try this later on I really enjoy using surprising ships and fits for pvp like the battle venture etc keep up the good work sir o7
Started Eve in 2008. Thought your vid was good. Nice to see such a simple guide to get people out there getting kills. ;-)
nice vid! If you know you might have to go for the decloak. Press SHIFT-V before you click on the enemy. Your camera will lock onto it. Then not just press approach but slightly to the left/right/up/down to it depending on the direction he will try to escape. This way, you are already on the way to your target and can easily go for a decloak.
This is why cloaked I always change direction once the effect fully happens
@@MW-cx3sb I'll generally fly almost back towards and past them making a large U turn in space.
Precision and methods of yours are truly "eveil" .... :)
Very impressive idea you have there; since I joined the game, I've always wanted to do cloaky hunting, but since that requires a roughly 100m ship minimum, it can be hard for new players to learn. This method though allows you to experience something similar with a much lower price tag.
I do most of my Solo PvP in an Astero, although the fit is not cheap (300-350 Mil). It’s hilarious what a beating this ship can take and I can make some ISK on the way doing exploration.
This is a great little guide to some easy explorer bashing. Only thing I would do different would be rockets instead of Blasters. Maybe less DPS on paper with day one skills, but your application will be steady, instead of the odd miss every few shots with blasters due to tracking. And it'll have better range.
I remember my first solo kill. I was in a Wormhole corp and someone in a manticore tried to solo me in a PVP fit Rapid Light Missile Caracal. Needless to say it didn't go well for the Manticore.
Manticore was not thinking clearly haha.
Mine was my first visit to nullsec. Back when I was super green. Yeeted a pulse exe into sov null, made it a few jumps into their space before a small gang was tailing me. Tackle condor landed on me, I pointed and erased him. Right before the rest of the gang landed and finished me. 😅
A great idea i just had, scan down all wh within one jump of trade hub, stick at major trade hub (especially if its smaller) wait for a wh ship to undock, and track it and look what gate it goes to, follow it, jump to ur already scanned wormhole, and lie in wait. Could work imma try it
Keep up the good work, praise Bob.
haha , you earned a sub , i am off to try this asap :D that soldier of fortune air challenges are pain in the ass... great idea to spam those challenges , basically for free and it's fun as well.
i will give it a try, what a brilliant strat.
quick question, i figured id try this out because why not. I've now been waiting at a wormhole for more than an hour and a half. is that normal timing?
That is quite a long wait, but on a Tuesday evening not too surprising. Did anyone ever show? Weekends are usually better for this kinda thing
@@EVEILOnline I ended up having to get off about half an hour after posting this to go eat dinner and get ready for bed, and now that I think about it yea probably wasn’t the best day to do it lol
@@EVEILOnline ive been messing with it today and alr got 2 kills, definitely just had bad luck last time
Dude, great vid and really cool music!
fr the music is bangin
This i clever and in fact you could start pvp at day one with this method. But it's more like ganking. This fit would never work in a proper fight. And the problem is that you are not learning pvp if target never fights back. And if he did, any normal pvp fit would destroy this one. So you are not giving yourself opportunity to engage in a proper 1v1. Still i like the spirit of this one. You start your career as an outlaw so it's better chance that you will not become carebear :)
Just watched this today and decided to try it and I fight and kill another heron using this exact fit.
I seem to be missing something. I’ve done exactly what you have done, strategy wise, and fit wise the same and I have more DPS. I tracked a total of 8 targets into the WH. Mostly T1 frigates. They all are placed relatively close to the WH when they warp in and I preload my weapons and when I click on the target sometimes it says they are invulnerable and I also can’t kill them. They all are able to get back to the gate
I will try a double web and 1 scram this time but I don’t understand how you were able to get 4 so effortlessly but 8 got away from me.
With wormholes, targets appear at varying distances from the wormhole. It is even possible to appear within the jump range of the hole, in which case it is impossible to catch them before they jump. You may have just been unlucky.
Recommend recording yourself if you can, and watch the clips back later. How many km away did they appear? You'll be able to review what happened.
Brilliant vid 👌
Love your videos
I'm gonna do this!
eve is fun. I Like to play the mining bait while giant ships lay near by cloaked lol
I fitted combat probes on mine, gotta catch them looting
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47 jumps from Jita for a 1.4mil ISK ship?
Nah. Self Destruct. Go home. Time=Money.
True, I'm just a killmark whore
lol love the content Boet !!!
I would ransom the pod. Seems a better outcome for both parties.
If they reach the WH they can warp back out, so he doesnt have much time to get a ransom demand in.
Theyd just self destruct.
@@aesh78No, if they have implants they might accept a ransom.
All pods die
@@aesh78if they do that their pod probably wasn't worth the ransom
Post the fit pls.
Check description :)
Dude you are fucking amaizing!
Your security status changes, or do you not care for this toon? I thought podding was a no no.
All the kills happen in wormhole space, which is treated the same as null sec. I.e. no security status hit, no killrights against you. It is completely lawless space. No consequences for killing pods
You Sir are
pew pew
Good idea :D
Shouldn't you overheat your guns to get some more DPS? xD
You need to train thermo dynamics for that, and at super low lvls with small t1 turrets, theyll burn out in a flash.
you actually need thermodynamics to overheat. Did they change that? Since I thought you could always overheat.
@@benjaminkk9081 yes you do
Ty
Tried it, killed my concord lol
Lol you do the pvp inside the wormhole only, or concord will have something to say
@@EVEILOnline Yeah, my fuck up was being baited, I see what you where talking about. Learn the hard way.
I got my first kills by pretending to be a hacker and killing other herons that were hacking cans in the same site lol
They must have thought they needed to hack faster to beat me lol
I wonder if I can do this with a double web cruiser
I've done it with a vigilant, worked really well
So cool aha
or in my case , get shot at shoot back they ded
can this be a source of income?
You can earn isk this way, but not much. Most explorers jumping into a wormhole are empty, so the best you can hope for is a sisters probe launcher to drop. You're better off doing anything else for isk
@@EVEILOnline ahh, so this is just for the fun of it
sounds good to me still
It's dumb and not fair!
Eveil little bastard 😂
ok
hmm not cool kill the pod but i too nice
Catch it, kill it :)
Bleh. All you did was make a brand new player trying out the game to quite. This is called griefing. Now the better idea would be to sucker a PVP player into attacking you, scram him and then have a friend and you take him out. Now that would have been awesome.
The point of the vid was to show new players how to get their first solo kill. Some of my other vids are probably what you're looking for
@@EVEILOnline In rereading my post, I see that I may have been more direct and judgmental than I should have been. For that I apologize. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Happy flying.
it's funny how all these videos they say " nice loot pays 8x the ship cost" ...in a real scenario any new player will die 9 out of 10 times :)) and when you are 20+ systems away from a trade hub you don't jump back to sell a measly 8mil loot that turns to be 4 mil after taxes and market pricing :D ..you go on until someone else kills you :D 🤣🤣🤣🤣 pro players in eve creating "how to as a new players" are like Myke Tyson in his prime pretending he has never boxed and proving how to dodge some random guy's punches and be cost effective :D
The real scenario is day 1 alpha guy realizes he can't skill into anything effective. Buys sub for 20$, buys plex for 30$, sells quickly below market price...now he has 2bil isk , that's like 400 frigs with decent fit. He looses 15 of them to destroyers and 3x gangs randomly every yellow and blue system and then moves up to destroyers , looses 20 of them to frigates then goes on forum to rage. He's made fun of and deletes the game but comes back a week later begging a null corp to adopt him cause he won't take a 50$ loss 🤣🤣🤣proceeds to loose 9 out of 10 engagements but since he's a fleet drone, now he gets all the ships for free until he feels guilty enough to sub a second account and start mining to "prove he can fund his own pvp" to the guild. Spends some 1 bill on injectors to speed up his mining alt.
Two months later he finally has a clue on how some modules counter each other and how to properly fly one type of frigate but everytime you properly fly your frigate solo, you're only running into people flying precisely what counters your frigate so it's no good, back to fleet droning.
I'm not sure if you watched the video, but I did this as a day1 alpha pilot to show that you don't NEED loads of skills to get your first kill. I also state to camp the systems next door to Jita. I.e. you're literally 1 jump from the biggest trade hub in the game to sell your loot. Add to that the method is essentially spam click your overview until the target appears, I challenge you to find an easier way to get your first legitimate pvp kill outside of ganking.
Sounds like you had a pretty rough start to the game if that was your experience. I assume you are talking from experience? This is why I'm suggesting an alternative to the often suggested faction warfare route into pvp. If all you're fighting are ships that counter yours, you're doing something wrong. Try this method, you only need to memorise the 4 basic T1 exploration frigates, those are your targets. If anything else comes by, just jump through the wormhole back to safety...
@@EVEILOnline nah my eve experience was mostly harmless and easy, my was meant to be funny not an attack or anything 🤣 but seriously any day 1 alpha new playah would prolly die 15 times by just entering a wh around jita and figuring out wtf is going on. That shouldnt stop them from trying tho. Matter of fact, I'll boot up my old account and try this.
@@terranu1 nah its cool, dying is learning after all! Best to die cheap for a while as you said
That's not pvp...
U are farming some newbies learning exploration
I think you missed the point of the video. It is a guide for new players to get their first pvp kill. Killing other new players is a great way to do that. Though assuming someone is new because they're in a T1 exploration frigate is a bit silly. If you enter wormhole space, you are a fair target regardless of your age.
Also, how is killing other players not pvp?
Welcome to New Eden ;)
Its a player versus another player. You're just dumb.
I'm an experienced explorer and I fly Herons precisely because I can lose one from time to time but still be making 50m - 150m / hr and just not worry about it. I'd make a valid target for a newb doing this (though I'd likely at least throw my drones out to create some chaos that might help me escape.) This is Eve.
pvp = player versus player, so it is pvp by definition.. If you want to be safe while exploring stay in highsec. I'm also a newbie, but when I go into a wh or nullsec I take the risk of being killed.
lol this is so lame you know eve inside out and think any new player can do this lol "pssst I got a used bridge for sale very well maintained going real cheap"
You think this is harder than getting a kill in faction warfare? That's the usual suggestion for new pilots looking to get into pvp. This is about as easy as it gets