India's Biggest Expert On China - Jayadeva Ranade | Faye D'Souza
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- Everything you need to know about India-China relations and why China is showing aggression on our northern border is here.
Jayadeva Ranade, President, Centre for China Analysis & Strategy, has held many very senior positions in the Central government. He is a season China expert with over 25 years of experience in the field. He is the biggest expert on China in our country right now.
He talks about India’s response to China’s aggression both military and political and the options available to India as the path forward.
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This is so much better than other Indian media
Stay strong India. Best wishes from the UK.
Hats off
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This is More Informative than Full day any news channel on mainstream media. Faye always hits the nail.
like any other left liberal .
Listened to the whole video , a proof of what knowledge and expertise can do to a nation. He is a diamond for us.
@Amar Akbar Anthony BFF how?
Faye rightly said by you, this is a very insightful conversation of yours... 💐💐❤️❤️
Excellent interview of Mr Ranade, clears a lot of doubts with China and our other neighbors! Great job Faye!
Thank you sir!
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@@FayeDSouza since a Young man i was watching modi becoming CM and PM. I will tell U sister modi is not what most people think. Even Arun shourie got fooled until some years back. Modi loves power, will do anything to cling on it. Modi is manipulative, very cunning but I may say he is not clever thought he thinks he is the smartest man ever born on planet Earth an example he has made enemies of every neighbouring countries of ours.
@mb mb! May be she is referring to 1967 NathuLa battle & the one later, I think in 1984.
@@thomasranjit7781! Exactly, We want such a man for India at the moment. In my language people would call him, a trooper with heart removed.
Brilliant analysis by Mr.Ranade. But equally brilliant was the interviewer Madam Faye D'Souza. God bless you both for such a brilliant talk not seen in the media.🙏🙏🙏👍👍
Bakwas journalist hai faaye khaye gaye dlolzasa.
He is brilliant. Respect to both.
2 no expert
The interview was very elucidating. Without connecting the dots, it felt as if the Chinese had just mounted the attack on a whim. Thank you. The discussion also epitomized mutual dignity and emphasized the seriousness that discussing such a subject requires.👍
Mr. Ranade sir, thank you for the insight on China.
Faye hats off to you. Wonderful piece of work. Keep it up. Thank you.
our leadership must be informed. Chinese appeasement MUST stop!
I hope our industrialists & business persons acquire only what is Indian.
Go swadeshi all the way. Improve our quality.
Faye you are one of the best and honest journalists. Nice to see you again.
Wow , this was insightful , clear to the ears and very well informed with all necessary points being addressed . Thank you Faye for bringing us such crucial info during uncertain times as these and for making us atleast cling on to that tiny hope that , true journalism is still alive and kicking.
@swave158 well the unite States won't go without a fight. And what you say does make sense , scary as it may seem , can't refute those claims. But this will send everyone back crawling . I don't think any country would want to risk losses of that scale . Rebuilding was is and never will be something a country vies for . Let's hope not atleast
Excellent interview. Highly informative; gives us an insight into the Chinese policy process, viz a viz India.👍
For a change it was worthwhile listening on to a civil and intelligent conversation with cogent questions and responses.
The fact is we always got the Chinese wrong in our understanding of them. We overly depend on emotional relationships with other countries - with all the hugging and kissing. Chinese don't; their Middle Kingdom culture is based on realpolitik - kowtow to those who are strong, and ruthlessly kick those who are weak, and always look for an opportunity to take the high ground to dominate. Nothing in China happens without a long term perspective and planning. For instance, the String of Pearls around India didn't crop up overnight, they worked on it for decades while we were engrossed in self-congratulations, and irking our neighbours by acting like big brother. Today, China has pushed us into a corner with very little wriggle room.
@X X Then why does every country in South China Sea have conflict with you ? That region is not South east Asia. I thought you were smart enough to think on your own
@X X do you even know how 1962 happened. It was a complete failure of Indian govt, India had cordial relationship with china and did not even have much military activity in that region. China exploited our trust. What happened in 1967, when you tried to do the same in Sikkim region, you were put back to your place by indian army. Go read history
A realistic thought, the way you analysed thru emotional intelligence
Ok, let's learn something which are factual i.e. that India is the only country in the world having bad to not-so-good relationship with all its immediate neighbours.
Fact check
1. India is currently committing mass human right abuse in Kashmir (seized from Pakistan during war)
2. India has/had conflicts with Nepal, Burma, Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Sri Lankan, Bhutan, Sikkim i.e. all her neighbours.
3. India illegally annexed Sikkim which was an independent nation before 1975 and had illegally occupied it till today.
4. Bhutan, a tiny but a old and sovereign state located in Himalaya, was never allowed to establish any political, defense, trade links with any other countries by the Indian. Almost the entire economy and defense of Bhutan is controlled by the Indian government. Strong influence of India is found in her political sphere also.
5. List of recent (2020) misadventures carried out by India military:
a. Nepal's border incursion by indian jawans,
b. Mig21 shot down in surgical strike in Balakot Pakistan,
c. Border trespass into China's Asai Chin territories
(the 90's agreement signed between China and india was to keep the place neutral without militarizing it; however, recent moves such as reconstitution of Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Act, 2019 and the building of road were clear violation of the agreement from India)
Furthermore, few years back, Indian troop also carried out OPS mission deep inside Burma jungle and self justified her action by calling out loudly that they were merely conducting a "surgical strike" on terrorists. It was an obvious violation on her neighbour's (Burmese) sovereignty under the U.N. code of conduct.
Updated info
Another Bangladeshi cattle trader has been shot dead by India's Border Security Force personnel along the Bangladesh-India border in Naogaon. 18/06/2020
Only indian, the gullible and the clueless ones will believe India is a peaceful and harmless country.
Good points but a larger point is India has always had an inferiority complex towards China. Quite the opposite of the attitude towards Pakistan. Plus not a single PM has been capable of making China blink. It has always been appeasement. With Nehruji earlier and Modiji as the two prime examples. Lastly our noisy democracy and internal poison between politicians will embolden all our neighbors.
Sir you are worth More than your weight in gold. Thank you Ranade sir for clearing things. Hope the government of India is watching. Faye: What a great interviewer you are. The questions are extremely well thought and poignant.
One of the best interviews in recent times . The questions were straightforward and non nationalistic which is much required for truth and clarity . Expert answers and such a well balanced approach .
Thankyou for the interview.
It really helped me get a better grasp of the Sino-India situation ...
A very good and informative discussion. Thanks for sharing your knowledge & wisdom Mr Ranade. The indian response towards chinese aggression matters and the segregation of chinese forces near the bases tells that some warheads will be tested. For us it is kind of final wake up call. Also japanese and other countries feeling the chinese pressure may be roped in for future possibilities.
This person make real sense...hope our indian government have half the gutts and idea...
do u think gov not aware all these .. u seems funny guy .. talking is different, action is different, it's not just taking action? u also need to think long term effect, international politics, economy, many other things .. any gov do same , not just bjp gov
@@mallianumula its a fact that government knows...any one who follow the current affairs knows it......but we also underatand tat the bjp should not act like the congress government...who took all decision to suppress the current heading issues by hiding rest....so you dt have to be serious mam everytime...i am happy you felt me funny...atleast you might have found yourself little relaxed in your serious life...
@@jilson1104 BJP is not acting like congress at all. Just you can type in English doesn't make you correct.
Thank you so much for a relatively objective and reasonable point of view.
Eye-opener, information and knowledge about the India N China, present Laddakh Regions Border, similarly entire border.
Thank you so much,Sr most expert on Relationship policy,Mr Ranade.
Thank you Faye again, for leading change with determination and kindness.👏👍💞💙💚💜💛Best journalist.
A very good interview with relevant questions and insightful answers
This anslysis is way better than daily news on tv. It gives us better understanding of situation amidst claims & counter-claims!
Excellent conversation, Thank you very much for both of you, God bless you sir,
Great to see n happy to see Mdm Faye D'souza👌👍
Well reasoned out thoughts that comes out of the wisdom gained over a long period of practical experience.
Excellent interview. Ms. Faye now the era of tv debates with 6 panelists is over. Such podcasts are the way to go. Mr Ranade is an excellent guest and gave us all perspective
Faye, this is a respectable man with knowledge. He does not speculate like many of your other previous respondents. Not an interview like you usually have! Can we expect more objective interviews in the future like this?
As long as India stands with isreal India can not lose a war. That is the promise of Lord Jesus Christ in the Holy Bible. Remember the six day war of Israel. U can google it. Not a single country that stood with Israel after it came again in existence in last century lost a war..
Very well explained by Sir,Shri Ranade who was former Cabinet Secretary of India. My Namskars to him.
Thank u! This is not a Bollywood channel.
Faye
You said Lieutenant Governor talks.
It's Lieutenant General talks.
I am your fan.
You have been doing well in your programs. Keep it up!
Loved the conversation
Thanks mam :)
The best analysis on what's happening now. Thank you.
Wonderful. We need to exert a message that we are not a timid nation and community
Well-expressed views. Great to hear an expert giving us these insights and being candid.
Spot on as always , huge respect for you madam
Good flow of questions by Faye, leading to very informative responses by Mr. Ranade.
Lot of ♥️Faye,stay blessed 🤲
What an eye-opener for me! Mr. Rande certainly understands China and its strategies and the first time I witnessed how to take an interview with a guest without imposing oneself for the camera, contrary to most news anchor, in India, keep on yakking just to show themselves before the camera. I think Mr. Rande is an encyclopedia of China issues just like Mr. Brahma Chellaney.
Good interview by Mr. Ranade away from any political bias. In a way to me it is the Chinese appeasement policies of the past which has made us reach were we are today.....and from the views expressed by Mr. Ranade it is time to show a firm footing now ( not one step forward and two steps back as done before ..) and he feels it is being done with a positive hope that things will improve...... has few thoughts and suggestions on what should be the options India should be playing on .... good for every Indian to listen and understand and not get carried away by the views and feelings of those who constantly try to paint a weak picture for our country and already lost to China
Thanks Mr Jayadeva for your great informative insight into this Chinese mind .
Thank you Faye 👏👍
Very good job Faye. I am so glad u r bringing best ppl for the best subject. Quality over Quantity. And most importantly increasing knowledge of listener's rather than ruffling nationalist feathers. 👍
Shri Ranadev thanks for your comprehensive analysis of matters concerning to China. I am sure Your views will be respected and followed in government policies.
Hello Faye, I really liked your last question and more liked Shri Ranade's response. Best wishes and please keep it up 🙏
One of a kind, brilliant journalist, Faye we love your reporting🤩🌟😊🥇🏅
That's a lot of butter. How about some tomato chilli garlic ketchup?
Cannot wait to see you back on TV!
Heartiest thanks and gratitude to Mr Ranade for this brilliantly explained strategic relationships with our arch rivals, the Chinese. Political complacency has weakened our defence preparedness to the advantage of our enemies. Chinese are ruthlessly engrossed in their national security and are emerging as internationally recognised military power ,not less than any of the super powers. They are very systematically planning to capture the world through economic and military power and the world is awakening from the threats visible on ground.
👍 matured discussion, many things i got to know, Thanks to you both
Excellent Conversation 👍
This was a very informative and mature talk from Sri Ranade and kudos.
Summarily, we have been caught with our pants down...yet again! That we have never had “China goals” and a South Asia policy, is now painfully clear.
Very insightful discussion on the background of the current Indo-China standoff. I also appreciated Mr. Jayadeva’s insights on Chinese mindset and the need for us to stand “firm”.
As tough as the situation may be, I think that standing firm - militarily and diplomatically, will create a geopolitical and an economic inflection.
While “Hindi-Chini-Bhai-Bhai” may be outdated, our ~1800 km border and ~2800 year history with China isn’t. We need to get off our jingoist high horse and build clear goals and strategy for our oldest and very powerful neighbor!
The General is very logical and pragmatic in his analysis. He does not take a hollow patriotic sentiments and statement. Neighborly relationship is crucial in maintaining stability for peace and stability.
positive view is rerely to see, most.of.indians are leading to.hates now
Faye d s great interview informative n wide spectrum deep.thanks
In 2017 the Indian Army had a similar face-off with the PLA, in the Bhutanese territory of Doklam. The face off lasted 73 days. Doklam was a strategic plateau at the tri junction of India, Bhutan and China border, gifted to India by Bhutan as India is responsible for Bhutan's defence. The Doklam plateau commands an excellent view of China's Chumbi valley.
That time we let the Chinese shift the status quo in their favour. For China, building roads through the rugged 14,000 ft Doklam plateau served 3 strategic purposes:
1. The road network would support a more entrenched Chinese presence in the region, which was a long pending dispute between Bhutan and China.
2. The new infrastructure would allow PLA to access a key ridge overlooking the Siliguri corridor. The corridor also known as 'Chicken Neck', is a narrow stretch of land that connects the North Eastern states to rest of India.
3. The PLA could use their positions on higher ground to collect intelligence on Indian military positions and, in a conflict, even threaten Indian supply lines.
That time also same claims that no Indian territory was lost, were made. And that is true too because the country which lost the territory was Bhutan.
In the Galwan valley, India was building a bridge across Galwan river. The bridge will definitely improve movement of Indian troops in the region. We completed construction of the bridge despite the military standoff and that is great.
But the reports were that the altercation happened when Indian protested erection of a surveillance post by China on the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control in Galwan.
The capture of heights is the main intend of the PLA. We with all this jingoism is missing the point that in the Himalayan plateau being in a position of height, gives a big advantage to Armies, be it Indian Army or PLA. India should not loose it in Galwan like we did in Depsang in 2013, Chumar in 2014 and Doklam in 2017.
The fact that 2013 happened during UPA and this will be used to shut Congress up. 2014 happened as soon as Modi took office. Diverting attention of Indians is only thing this marketing company BJP, is capable of. So they will ask you to boycott Chinese Products and uninstall Chinese Apps.
Faye, great reporting, we follow fearless, sensible, and Unbiased reporters like you.
Awesome video..best yet on this topic.
Well done gentleman. Only you understand the consequences of war.
Agree that strategic communication is a weak point and we have seen this incase of Pakistan and now against China.
Very practical and convi.ncing and response from a wise experienced person.The interviewed is much intelligent than interviewer.
Hi Faye. Where hv u disappeared for so long! I hope you will be there n keep doing Great n Sincere journalism. God bless you always.
Gentlemen is without a doubt well experienced, informed & rational in analysis. GOI should take his inputs in drafting policy for China.
well said.
Better to look into British India history. How the northern territories were gained by the British. How the Border treaty between British India and the then Tibetan were done which the Chinese has not accepted.
Before 1962 the issue of Border Settlement on government level and there after should be brought out. There is no defined line of borders except Line of control. Therefore these are isolated incidents and not attached to speculative analysis.
Therefor, who got balls and bigger guns takes the land, simple.
Graphics would be nice as he expounds on the different border alignments from DBO to Sikkim and also at other locations.
The would you say two sept forward and two sept backwards is very good.
Great job👍🏻 very simply explained..
Faye keep on doing good work..more power
YES SIR.
Really Nice Video Faye Keep it up 🙏🙏👍👍✌️👏👏❤️❤️
Thanks so much :)
I would have liked a Russian perspective also discussed...
You're the best, keep the good work faye.
Missed you for long time. All the best
Good Journalism faye.
Kindly interview with Sir Swanhey too.
*Border issues India & China 17.6.20*
*Bill Purkayastha:*
As an Indian, let me say what I think about this article and this issue.
First: the border between India and China had been repeatedly redrawn by the British during the 19th and early 20th centuries. The historical Kashmir territory had been a Mughal Empire possession, then been taken from it by the Sikh Empire, which in the early 1840s was in turn annexed by the Brits and Kashmir put under a puppet Hindu Dogra dynasty. The basic importance of Kashmir to the Brits was that it was a frontier state against “Russian expansion” like Afghanistan, which was not at the time (until the Afghan Independence War of 1919) permitted by the Brits to have a foreign policy. The space between Kashmir and Afghanistan was left to Tibet, which in turn was under the control of the weak and powerless Chinese Empire.
After the Chinese Revolution of 1911 the Brits - who had invaded Tibet in 1903 - decided to cut away Tibet from China before the latter could get strong. They therefore called a “Simla Conference” in 1913 at the Indian city of Simla, now Shimla. The participants were the Dalai Lama’s people, the British under one Henry MacMahon, and one single Chinese representative, Ivan Chen. At that conference the Brits unilaterally divided Tibet into two - an Outer (southern) Tibet that was to be under Chinese “suzerainty” but with no Chinese “sovereignty”, and an Inner (northern) Tibet under both Chinese suzerainty and sovereignty. That is, South Tibet would be explicitly Chinese in name only. MacMahon also redrew the border between the two entities of British India and Outer Tibet, claiming what is now the Indian State of Arunachal Pradesh in the east, calling the new border Britain unilaterally imposed the MacMahon Line. At the same time it explicitly relinquished a large part of its claimed borders of Kashmir in the West, leaving the plateau of Aksai Chin in Ladakh to Outer Tibet. The Dalai Lama’s regime eagerly agreed, but the Chinese did not.
*No Chinese government, Nationalist or Communist, has ever at any time recognised the validity of the Simla Conference or the MacMahon Line.* This is essential to remember. And it did not happen during the Chinese Civil War as this article claims, it happened long before that.
In 1947 India became “independent”, though its military was still equipped and led by British officers. When they left, Nehru began a policy of deliberately promoting incompetent yes-men to the Army’s top ranks so as to not have a military coup. China was still weak and just recovering from the Civil War and was embroiled in Korea, and, seizing the opportunity, in 1951 India invaded Tibetan territory that was explicitly left to Outer Tibet in the east by the MacMahon Line, the monastery town of Tawang, and annexed it. On 1 July 1954 Nehru also unilaterally extended the Indian claim line in Kashmir to re include Aksai Chin, which had been left to Tibet by MacMahon. My father, a young man at the time, himself confirmed to me that before 1954 Indian maps always depicted Aksai Chin in China.
*India cannot simultaneously claim the MacMahon Line in the east and Aksai Chin in the west.* The two are mutually exclusive. It cannot be legally done.
China had repeatedly suggested through the 1950s a straightforward swap - Aksai Chin for the MacMahon Line. India refused every time.
During the late 1950s to mid 60s, too, India hosted CIA listening posts in the Himalayas to spy on China. India and the CIA armed and trained Khampa rebels and parachuted and infiltrated them into Chinese Tibet. India - violating its own promise to China to not permit political activities - allowed the fugitive Dalai Lama regime to set up a “government in exile” in Dharmashala near Shimla. American engagement with India against China is nothing new.
As for the current crisis, it’s entirely manufactured by the Modi regime. The regime is desperate to distract attention from a collapsed economy, a ruinous failed lockdown, surging COVID-19 numbers, ravaging locusts, financial criminals who were permitted to escape abroad, rising popular discontent, and no idea how to fix things. It therefore chose to pick a fight with China, which boomeranged badly. The regime media has suddenly fallen silent on the topic while those media not under the regime claim massive further Indian territorial losses in Aksai Chin. It’s not going to end in war anyway. The Indian army is too weak to take on the Chinese alone, and America is not going to commit suicide for the greater glory of Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi.
Extremely realistic analysis. Restpects to you sir.
Nice to listen to your show 🤩
It's a very precious interview with Jayadeva Ranade. Every bit, I agree with him. Impartial and valuable opinions from positive frame of mind!
Excellent analysis, think tanks in Indian defence and security establishment must have considered all the inputs and work out the strategy to protect our national interest and strategic intent.
Excellent interview.
Nice to see you here , subscribed . .Wish you success
Jai Hind
This is completely crazy! Just saw the news that Indian wanted to spend US$ 5 Billion to buy war planes from Russia instead of spending the money to feed the domestic hungry people in this pandemic. Very, very sad indeed. My advice is that if India keeps the caste system in the society and military units, imports 70% of the weapons and are not prepared well for the highland battle (just see the 17 soldiers died not from the injury but the exposure to subzero temperature and extreme oxygen deficiency) and the mediocre command system (sending out hundreds of soldiers at night without knowing how to get them back safely), it will be a military wonder if India can win in a skirmish against China. But again, Indian side always claim that they have always won "spiritually" in all battles against China.
Stupid man get educated.otherwise you might know real hunger given by the chinese
A great conversation. Have heard Mr Ranade earlier too in the last few months but @Faye u have brought the best out of him by asking the right questions.
Fantastic anchoring and supereb expert opinions.
Excellent interview. Mr Ranadive is a font of wisdom and Faye knows how to tap it, superb
the recent clash is to test the capacity of PLA? hard to believe. Major investment goes to airforce and Navy, especially navy. Test navy on a plateau?
Are you living under a rock? Chinese Navy is being tested in South China sea.
Faye is more interested in pick out faults with Indian govt and not really bothered about what China is doing. She would like business with China to carry on regardless.
She sounds more of a left liberal kind to be frank. Some of her questions and off the cuff comments were loaded ones.
What better one can expect from a left liberal ?
Well done Faye
Two points to be made :
1 The script and the grammar followed by the present dispensation does not inspire confidence ; one can only hope that things would improve.
2 Secondly, we are no match for China : both economically & militarily.
Further, the rise of China disturbs the existing world order. India & China are fighting for the same slot in the new order. And China will do everything that it takes to keep us mired in the neighborhood.
This gentleman is very wise. The Indian government should listen to him
So many "ifs" and "buts" in the answer. Lot of guess work.
I am sure both countries can sit down and talk. Let peace prevail through dialog and negotiate.
As long as we do not develop our
Own infrastructure on power sector,
Communication ,etc.
First get rid of corrupt burocrats,and public sector under takings.
Every govt talks a lot on this subject,and nothing has been done by all govts.
Oh so you support the private sector like Modiji...... good for the Nirav Modid , Vijay Mallyas and Ambanis
First get rid of Modi, corruption starts at the fountain head. Modi is quite frankly ethically and Morally corrupt. He has no right to continue he has lied about his Education , he has lied about his marriage, He lied about National security, He lied about Historical facts to manipulate elections. Get rid of Modi and things will be better, Congress is the only real option, they know how to run the economy , they also know how to run the Defence, never before china has entered 50 Sq. kilometre in Indian territory and annexed it. And Indian PM lying about it.
Very good interview session.. however the anchor's alterior motif came out when tried to poke with NRC, which hasn't happened yet ... kudos to mr. Ranade how he deliberately dodged the question by providing further insightful information.
Excellent, fan club members should listen carefully and realize what mr ranade.has to say.I subscribe the channel, madam, good wishes.
Experience counts...
Authentic!