What is the human cost to China's economic miracle? | Head to Head
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มี.ค. 2019
- In this episode of Head to Head, Mehdi Hasan challenges Charles Liu, Senior Fellow at Peking University, seasoned Chinese entrepreneur and informal adviser to the Chinese government, on Xi Jinping’s record in power so far, the government’s crackdown on the Uighur Muslim minority, and what role for China if it becomes the 21st century’s military and economic superpower.
With the presidential term limit abolished in 2018, critics say that Chinese President Xi Jinping appears to be paving the way to being able to stay in power for life, but Charles Liu, founder of Hao Capital, disputes this. Separately, despite lower-than-predicted growth, China is still growing substantially and is set to become the world’s biggest economy.
But the economic boom has been paired with an increase in state surveillance and crackdowns on dissent, as well as the repression of the Muslim Uighur minority. So at what cost has China’s economic miracle come? And what’s the future for civil liberties of the Chinese people?
In recent years China has also increased its military spending while some Chinese officials have been ratcheting up their militaristic rhetoric, raising fears of direct military confrontation with the United States.
On this Head to Head episode filmed at the Oxford Union, we challenge Charles Liu on all these topics, ask him whether the Chinese economy has hit a wall, and whether China’s neighbours should dismiss their fears as his country builds up its military and extends its global reach.
We are joined by a panel of three experts:
Andreas Fulda - China Specialist at Asia Research Institute and Assistant Professor at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham.
Victor Gao - Vice President of the Beijing based Center for China and Globalization and former interpreter for the late President Deng Xiaoping.
Steve Tsang - Professor and Director of the China Institute at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) University of London.
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There were a lot of talk about the human cost of China's miracle but no one talks about the west economic miracle that cause other countries misery until this day.
就是掠夺和屠杀而已，控制媒体，洗脑欧美人民，对欧美人民的历史和见解真是无语，不过随着时间推移，他们的意见也不再重要
best comment 2023
🤣🤣
This exactly an example of double standards from the west world.
The is exactly the same qestion i want to ask. Best comment!
can we take a moment to appreciate how well mannered the two Chinese gentlemen are? Softspoken and never interrupts
The two Chinese gentlemen were definitely much better behaved than the host, who is not interested in any, deeper responses to his rapid fire accusations. None of his accusations have been backed up by actual facts. He's so afraid of real answers from the two Chinese gentlemen that he keeps jumping around... is he on drugs?
As a Chinese citizen myself I am so sick of those foreign reporters and so-called 'experts' making such inaccurate, aggressive and disgusting claims about China when they know NOTHING!
It's absolutely infuriating!
真的，多一点同胞来看看吧，气得我想骂娘😂
我崇拜西方一辈子，美国读的研究生，现在真的是看透西方的丑恶伪善嘴脸了，道貌岸然的背后都是对中国人根深蒂固的种族歧视，想用各种手段弄垮中国经济让中国没法和西方国家竞争，说到底了就是不想让非白人的国家真正的崛起。
看到他们抹黑中国，我真是气死了@@diaries818
🤣看多了就习惯了，希望他们的脑子真的如此简单，而不是坏的流脓
😂
I'm a Malaysian of ethnic Chinese and I'm proud with the 2 fellow Chinese man who have shown courage despite distortion of facts by western media and host.
I am a Chinese Chinese who live and grew up in China. I say you Malaysian Chinese are not real Chinese. I am sorry. You are not. You are first and for most a Malaysian.
Igual from a Chinese who lives in Mexico
Are you proud of the authoritarian appalling treatment of its citizens locking them away for speaking up or how about the 250 thousand plus uyghurs jn concentration camps?
Isn't your comment distorted too
@@norbertlinglinguy4739 No..hs is correct
a wise man once said, 'do not reason with your enemies because they are not seeking the truth.'
indeed
work both ways
so truth
Yeah it’s like talking to a wall
I agree. Another way of saying what you’ve written is, to quote Dale Carnegie, “A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still”.
Im from Taiwan
What Mr.Liu said about Taiwan's current situation is precise.
Most of us wants a functioning govenerment that solve the problems
in stead of "independent politics"bullshit.
China has become a modernized advanced country over the past 30 years
and we're still stuck in the debate of calling ourself "Republic of China" or "Taiwan".
Somehow, during election season, a large group of people always seem to lose their memory and forget who deceived them last time. 😢
This is the drawback of Western democracy, which leads to shortsightedness among voters@@evolution686us
@@evolution686us That's because of goblins has changed the text book, which is making people believe they are not Chinese.
That's a conversation between a gentleman and a barbarian. Hats off to Mr. Liu for his insights.
China's comedy duo, Charles and Victor made fools of themselves without too much help of anyone else. 🤑
@@wynn3077 People like you Wayne make up the majority of the population, you go in a discussion with strong bias and preconception(some of these are not your fault being showered in misinformation perpetuated by media). What I would suggest to you is to do some research on your own, listen to Charles and Victor without jumping straight to a conclusion that they are wrong, take a look the shortcomings and current crisis of liberal electoral democracy in the West and really think for yourself, maybe you'll learn something different. The world is not a black and white place as I'm sure you know if you've had a few years of adult life under your belt. If you're still a kid or teenager, maybe you'll get it when you grow up.
Exactly, the host was too noisy tbh 😂
Well said.
you have slave mindset
although he interviewed criminals, you don't even like him to ask tough questions
this guy just earned my respect. he is so humourous ,not everyone can appear as cool as him in front of mehdi..
agreed
Mehdi comes across as an idiot.
I used to like Mehdi a long time ago but his not even trying to hide his propagandist ways, his turned into a joke
@@OzzyBoganTech he's been MSMed
@@OzzyBoganTech yup he just joined the likes of that Z guy in Ukraine
1. Apart from thr military budget, Mehdi should also ask how much the Chinese Gov spend each year to help the developing countries to build infrastructures. Eliminating poverty is always the China's goal.
2. Mehdi should provide the proof for his "One million Uyghur prisoners" claim. He is not entitled to ask going to check the Chinese facilities to find his claims. No countries has the obligations to facilitate such rude requests.
Exactly. It is up to accuser to lay down the proofs.
Credit to Mr. Liu for remaining calm and bringing on composed rebuttals. It takes some skill being that chill and arguing in a foreign language.
he is born and raised in the USA
@@fengyiyi born in taiwan
As a Chinese,we sick of explain this , explain that for what we done. We can't wake up people who pretend to sleep. and can't convince people who have bias to others. Every thing base on country power. If you have questions, just because you jealous and you unable to do that.
只希望他们如表现的那样愚蠢
Charles is intelligent, polite and elegant; the host needs to learn a lot from Charles how to talk to people.
Unfortunately he's not allowed to finish off his opinion. Mehdi always interrupts timely to stop Charles from delivering his main point...many times 😢
he said he is shameless enough to keep his style
I am a Chinese, live in Hainan province, the southest part of China.
As for the Centrol Camp, i don't know for sure. But before discussing this, i would like to share with some policies in China:
1. Education policy: Student from all the minorities, except Han and ZHuang Ethnic, get 20 bonus points for College entrance examination no matter where they live and what school they are in. Moreover, In most parts of china, it is 9 year compulsory education(free education), but it is 12 yeas free education in Xinjiang and Tibet. And it is bilingual education in Xinjiang, Tibet and Inner Mongolia? Any part of USA does that?
2. Poverty lifting policy: Building new house subsidy (house in bad condition in rural area, GVT will subsidize about 10 thousand usd for each family, it is about half of the cost of a village house of about 100m2), livestock supplying, education subsidy (student from documented poor family, not only don't pay for education, they also get subsidized), livestock subsidy, Medical Insurance subsidy and etc. And this policy is pro-minority. BTW, according to sources, Poverty rate in USA (1.5%) is higher in China (1%).
3. Also There are some many other policy to help the poor: like "Hand in Hand Aid", developed province or city help the poor province.
Well, if any other GVT does these for their minorities, i won't believe they depress their minority. Considering there are thousand extremists there, some measures are necessary, and i believe it is for the well being for the people there.
We love our country. We don't want any outsider mess up with our country. We don't necessary love the GVT, but we believe they are doing a great job.
No government in the world in the entire history of mankind, has ever done so much for the citizens except for the CPC - no government even come close. Poverty is a very difficult problem to tackle. Be grateful & thankful.
@@rosalynnchow5057lmao
Do we have authoritarian policies thst lock people away possibly for life without letting any family friends etc know or how about Uyghur concentration camps with over 250k plus people. Nice to see all the CCP propaganda at work in the comments. The west is in no way the moral standard and as an American I can say very safely we have done awful things abroad and continue to, no doubt. Doesn’t negate the actions of the CCP or what they want to accomplish worldwide which would be devastating and cause massive amounts of poverty and suffering just like every single other communist socialist regime in power. Funny how the people promoting this would be the ones that suffer and get hit the worst by said policies and governments they support it’d be hilarious if it wasn’t so idiotic.
“They wish they had the money to spend more.”
That hurt, man.
Anirban Kar 14:20
Same here
Bahut dukh hua !!, koi nah dekh lenge inko bhi, abhi bahut life baki hai !!
Yes, that does. But I am sure they will pay for this arrogance one day.
Hahaha bhekari india
Why are they so concerned about China rather than their own country... They appear to live in a perfect country... I honestly miss Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.
Unfortunately one is being locked up and one being exiled.
Mehdi Hassan is an British-American muslim of Indian descent who works for a Qatari media company. By 'own country' do you mean any country except for China?
The host was like oh u have something to say? Let me talk over you 😂
I'm an Indian and I love china. What they have done is amazing. To think they had the same level of poverty as India in the 80's and have become one of the economic powerhouses in such a short time is incredible.
Go and stay there buddy, Money worth nothing compared to humanity and freedom.
Selling their morality and souls for the sake of capitalism and divisiveness is not something to be admired.
Then you clearly don't have the slightest idea of what is actually happening in China.
@@make_inindia6978 What about people who could be fed every day, that's the most important humanity.
To see users from developed countries making moral high-ground comments is nothing but atrocious arrogance
"India spends a quarter of your budget!"
"They wish they had as much to spend".
Brilliant!
As an Indian, I had to laugh at that because it's probably true.
It’s true, India wish they had more otherwise they wouldn’t have to entertain Us and Uk
@Lewis A Teage Just numbers. Not relevant when talking about people.
Nonsense ... CLEARLY China's 50-cent army is at work here.
India is spending in just in military on the other hand don't ask what is the situation, hunger at its peak and they want to become super power LOL
WOW, just let LIU finish his words plz .what a so call democracy
"Who came out of the deal with iran? not China" 😂😂Charles liu is a legend
Why would you go into or stay in a deal when the other party is constantly chanting death to you
@@jamesbranham2217They're chanting death to you because you keep threatening them 😂
"india wishes they had the money to do it"
me - thats rude, but its true
@@LV-ei1ce But that is not true
India is no where near china now
India is being bullied by pakistan from past 70 years.
India should have been superpower with 1.4 billion people but sadly it isn't.
@@LV-ei1ce that too because of bjp and vajapayee if the gandhis were to be there we wouldn’t even have nukes
India doesn't need to spend on Nukes. If we just stop China investments and increase taxes on agri products export to China, then we shall see how much money they will spend on destroying world (building nukes)
@@Harsh-fj6tg indian Nuclear program started under p v narasimha rao.
800 million starving right now and you talk about bombs...
this is not debate. this is just interogating with prepared questions.
tired to watch when interviewer doesn't want to have extent discussion.
Constantly interrupting only to one side is not considered as a fair debate.
So shamed on this moderator for having this aggressive and unreasonable convo. He is being personal.
"Socialism is just a slogan, in reality it's the Chinese way of doing things " The interview should have stopped at that point. He summed up the whole Chinese political spirit.
Idriss, good observation. 👍👍😁😁. When Deng Xiao Ping became the Premier, he knew he cannot just make drastic changes to the CCP. He visited Singapore, Japan and US and learned that China must changed its isolation policy. Foreign investments were needed. To just change overnight will be very highly politically risky and facing political suicide He may be outsted, labled a traitor, or charged with subversive elements for trying to embrace western capitialism. To tread carefully and to prevent resistance from the old communist party leaders, he reengineered Capitalism with Chinese characteristics - a black cat or white cat does not matter as long as the objective is achieve. Today, Communism is just a name. Capitalism is the driving economic policy with open door policy to foreign investments. The central government will still play a crucial role as policymakers to ensure fair and equitable distribution of wealth but the people should be encouraged to pursue economic achivements thru' diligence, science & technology, arts and cultural practices in accordance to Chinese practices. Western ideas are not "copied". This policy explains less resistance from the old guards. At the sane time, Deng encouraged the old party members to retire and make way for new young fresh ideas. The old ways are "dead". The rest is history. In less than 3 decades China's economic developments surpassed many nations and lifted more than 700 millions out of poverty in China alone, 3X the US population. No country in the world was able to achieve what China did. Deng paved the way for the Capitalism, Chinese style. Go watch PM Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore how he described Deng and his ambition plan when Deng visited Singapore. Lee gave Deng only 2 words to change China - Foreign Investment. Shenzhen became the testing ground!!
As a respect to Mao, he wanted the Chinese people to remember Mao as the man who united the CCP and repelled western colonization of China, but not the Cultural Revolution which will always be a dark history of China. Every country has a dark history. By the way, I'm not from China.
What you call it chins, rest of Europe have socialism, also American pay $billions so their Nomber one, foreign State Israeli zionsit live by Socialism also enjoy the life by free US taxpayer money,
Socialism is a political orientation. It is like Conservatism or Liberalism. It is not an economic system. Socialism recognizes human labor as the source of all value. It recognizes that higher wages are a cost increase for producers. It recognizes that, for individual producers, higher wages are a subtraction from profits. It recognizes that higher profits are the goal of every individual producer. It recognizes that higher wages benefit laborers.
Socialism is the movement to address these realities. It is not the purchase of a political product. It is the creation of something new. The Chinese have done this rather well. You can't stop progress with a poor dictionary.
He left USA for huge money give my china
@@HeresMyView How do feel about the Trump's administrations' attitude toward China as socialist if China is capitalist?
If you voted for Trump that action contradicts your theory; assuming, of course, you are a voting American.
I am also quite curious about those China expert or China institute in western countries: How can they study China well without living in China? How can they do this job for living? Other words: from where they get funding?
Exactly!!
Some of them even couldn’t read in Chinese 😂😂😂😂
most of them@@sylviazou1311
Take it easy, it is just a job for them😅😅 As long as they are anti-China, they can secure their jobs.
They are educated by the west media obviously, and they can be very unbiased I guess
This is not a discussion, this is a trial. Mehdi played the role of judge and prosecutor at the same time.
Mehdi never truly let people speak. He likes to interrupt whenever Liu is trying to explain an issue, I mean come on you are accusing ppl so just let ppl explain it out! Do your job professionally, be neutral and do not mislead the audience in this kind of forum.
If the host agrees with you, you can talk uninterrupted. If he disagrees with you, he won't let you complete a sentence and he will ask questions without allowing a response. Pretty poor "debate", only the host views must pass muster, everything else is shut down.
*"I have Uighar friends" is the new "I have black friends" I guess..*
South Korea aren't as inclusive of skin colour as you might think. Maybe not the best to throw stones in glass houses.
🤣🤣😂😂😂....true
How right you are👍🏽
You are most racist people in the world
@mark hart you are confused with Muslim dying every day in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya.
“I have Uighur friends.”
“Some of my friends are black.”
People need to stop thinking that such empty phrases isolate them from the bigoted comments that follow (or make such bigoted comments justifiable). 😒 seriously we see you for what you are
I respect that fact that he marched with MLK Jr, and also came out and said how it was hard to believe how America at that day and age could still be oppressing black people at that time. This often crosses my mind that America was doing that yet going to war with other nations in communist regimes telling them how bad it was to oppress their people. That was hypocritical for America to position itself to the world yet doing that very same thing to African Americans throughout history leading up to the late 60's.
@@williamh3950 Well said!
He has Uighur friends. How evil!!! Thanks Kefi for this vital contribution. This tireless effort, 10 whole words, shall be praised in the songs of all future generations. Oh Kefi, Oh Kefi with his 10 strong words. The first was I, the last word was black. From him all truth has been shown. Oh wo-u-wo-ho. Oh Kefi, Oh Kefi...
There are no racism related issues in China, Chinese do not take it serious, they are free to say whatever they want (sometimes horrible remarks from Western perspective) like blacks are dirty, lazy etc. etc. (but they never say this in front in order to show their politeness, unless Westerners, racism is banned, but I meet it every single day)
@@watson7042 Yesterday in January 2021, as your loony President urged citizens to revolt & support him in his lies emanating from the desire for personal gain, American citizens carrying a rebel flag posed with Lincoln's portrait in your White House. These bigots are Americans. The world sees America as a nation of bigots & constant warmongers & that ALL white Americans benefit from this.
A host knows little about China is challenging a China expert with so many biased and one sided questions. That is the reason why so many people still do not quite understand how China can achieve the miracle within 40 years 😂😂😂😂😂
The host is an indian
I am from India.The growth of China is fast, astonishing and great. Congratulations to the chinese people.
Thank you, my good brother from India. May your country prosper
Chinese aren't used to this kind of interview. It really inconvenienced this man .
He performed quite well. Calm and clear minded. Fearless and confident.
The host was unprofessional, rude and kept talking over him.
The host sets the traps for the Chinese in order to get the answer he wants.
@M A cool man, because it makes our lives are getting better and better. how about you and how about your country?
@M A You are talking like I am not a Chinese! 😂
Aljazeera doing wat other news media like bbc and cnn can't do,
@vincent ang Mehdi is of the few honest journalist left who challenges in interviews
They do it every day,just got too much !
Al jazeera will always tell truth unless it's about workers for the world Cup stadiums in Qatar
Al Jazzera = BBC
@@Dragon-gl1rw Al Jazzera=BBC dressed in green. This is a serious case of Ummah
If I was sitting there I'd just repeat "We lifted 800 million people out of poverty" over and over and over. Literally nothing anyone can say as a comeback to that.
This host is very polite
Always interrupting others
The show doesn't care about China's answer, it only cares if there was a flaw in the Liu‘s expression.They didn't give Liu a chance to explain the Xinjiang issue,get in a word,Interrupt the original topic.What shocked me most was that the host thought military expenditure had nothing to do with population.When it comes to totals compared with the UK, France and Russia,talk about per capita compared to India.I can tell you that India's per capita military expenditure is only a quarter of China's,Its GDP is a fifth of China's.India spends more on military than China as a percentage of GDP.It's ridiculous that no matter how accurate Liu's argument is, people just want to attack him.
Bcz liu said that he doesn't know anything about what's happening in xianjiang. And on the other hand, he was claiming that there's no truth 8n locking up those 1 million in concentration camps. Let's not live under a rock. We all do know what's happening in those camps so there's no need to back up a liar just bcz he belings to your country. Wish you were as concerned and sensitive regarding those people who are being tortured just bcz they belong to a certain faith. THERE'S ENOUGH PROOF OUT THERE IF ONLY YOU DO A BIT OF RESEARCH. In this modern era of technology, staying ignorant/turning a blind eye to a certain thinh is a CHOICE.
those so called 'China expert' can't speak Chinese.
@@JL-ce8yk For the person who actually wants to know the truth, this video alone is enough as there's been the people within the audience who have been cut off from their families and are unable to hear from them. But again, being NAIVE is a CHOICE!! And yes there'd be much worse happening to those detainees than I can imagine or have information about. So yeah I don't know enough!
@@ahmadffarazkhan654 how legit r such 'witnesses' when even news can be fabricated? and cut off for what reasons? oh there is a great deal to play around with here. I dont have to remind u of the CNN clip of a 'former' chinese cop being interviewed.
@@ahmadffarazkhan654😂 not sure about your arguments. There are many ways to interpret the message. Please explain how Snowden and Assange's family reached them when they were condemned with treason? There are laws in every country. Believe in lies is not naive, it's stupidity. You either hate China with passion or stupid enough to believe the propaganda is the only truth😂
"they wish they had the money to spend more"
5:21
The arab thought he was smart, LOL.
@@Ryo-xx1lm
Which arab? I dont see any arab? You should buy better glasses!
@@Ryo-xx1lm he is really intelligent actually
@@argaming3070 I think mehdi is from Qatar but not sure
@@cyberanon2463 Mehdi's parents are from India. He himself was born in England.
I am an ordinary Guangdong people in China. I have been to Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. I can tell you clearly that it is a big lie that the western media said that China oppressed Uighurs. Without such a thing, Uighurs live a good life. I hope you can visit Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region when you have the opportunity.
I really hate it when the anchor is biased. Just let the interviewee fairly interact with his counterparts. We the public will be better served.
"I have Uighur friends" card being pulled a lot here. Riddiculous.
Raey Hanah I was like “Dude, doesn’t this guy know that that is a meme” LOL
A Racist usually starts with "I have Chinese, Black, Brown, Hispanic, Aboriginal, Maori, etc....Friends". German Nazis had Jewish Friends, South African Whites had 'Black' Friends, Donald Trump has Hispanic Friends. SO.
@Johney Smith dont have to be a psychotic murderer to be a racist... the man was living in his van plastered with donald trump news articles i dont think he had any friend period.
Adolf Hitler had Jewish friends too.
Adolf Hitler had Jewish friends.
So this is where Zuckerberg learned to speak like a robot
You learn Chinese,then I can talk with you not like a robot . The English is not our mother language,his English is very good for us. If you learn Chinese,I am sure your response will much much bad than his. You can answer nothing with Chinese.
Hahahahahhaahahhaha
@@luckyma590 English is not my first language either bud. But, whether I speak English or Russian, I speak like a human being, not an android.
@@alansdad4613 Keep in mind that the Lucky Ma isn't necessarily defending the guy's policy stance, in case you think that (not that you really implied it with your comment). But also, the robotic-ness of your accent depends upon what your first language was. If it was Chinese, it might be more difficult to speak as naturally in English as if you spoke German or Dutch growing up.
@@luckyma590 nope lmao. he has to think about what hes saying cus china is corrupt
And I found it even more amusing when Gaza is suffering from actual genocide, and this Uyghur lady speaks perfect English is also very interesting.
The host is extremely biased and the Chinese did not prepare enough to present Chinese facts. I came from Taiwan and have lived in US for 30 years and I know very well about China and US media. I have a much better understanding of both culture. I hate China Culture Revolution which is the worst thing happened in China History. But I have to admit that China did do a lot of good things and have achieved lots of accomplishments. Just one simple example, Chinese female status is far better than most of the world. Japan , Korea and Indian women’s situation is a lot worse than Chinese women. There are lots of good examples. Learn some Chinese and discover yourselves. Some of them are taken as granted and China society does not know it is rare in other parts of the world.
“Trust me bro”
I'd rather watch great discussions like this..instead of Netflix and chillin all the time.
Yea I thought i was the only one.
of course..when you watch something like this..you're more informed..whereas you won't learn anything from netflix..it's only for entertainment.
@@Stella-ri5ex uhhhhhhhhhhh ..That was my point.
@@Stella-ri5ex umm... Patriot Act with hasan minhaj?
Then again you can find it on you tube as well
100%
This shows how ignorant of western politicians and media.
in this interview you can see which side is the aggressor
'Most people polled would prefer America over China.'
Public opinion is fickle and easily manufactured. Most people polled also thought Iraq had WMDs.
The moderator is so biased against China. I didn't feel any respect whatsoever.
Agreed. It’s gross
He’s not a moderator here. It’s clearly a debate (and advertised as “head-to-head”).
很显然主持人的问题准备充分又充满了攻击和挑衅，还列举了看似铁证实则伪证的让西方人容易接受的例子，即使是刘扬声这样在联合国工作过的大牛都无法招架，这充分证明了一点：没法和预设立场的西方人沟通，他们就是不信。也许只有等到中国全面超过美国并把它远远甩在后面，然后西方人不得不主动去了解认识中国，而不是现在这样艰难地告诉西方人中国怎么样。
@@kavinpatel2748 not a debate. Hassan doesn't debate, he just interviews
This is how I will start answering exam questions "I never thought about that Question"
But yes it on the text book.. I forgot to read teacher.. lol
😂😂🤣🤣
Kkk, gold!
OMG I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING
@Tsepo Ndlovu:--Unfortunately in your case that will be understood differently than the Chinese spokesperson.
This is what he means:--"I prefer not to answer the question"
But for your case it will be "Oh no. I didn't study that part. I'm completely unprepared for this question"
And everyone knows what kind of student that would make you. Seriously?
38:02 This woman appeared and asked questions on Al Jazeera's program in 2014, and she still harbors malice towards China. Two appearances and two questions make it difficult not to doubt that she is an actor invited by the program group.
充滿偏見與傲慢態度的主持人～向劉先生致敬🫡
One of the reasons i like these talks is that clapping is not allowed during the talk, but only on breaks.
yes the last thing we need is an outbreak of clap now !
It's not like little knowledge prejudice Indian crowd. It's Alzajeera.
Airish Sherman racist! What is wrong with Indians specifically?
kljcjbs lp apart from having a right wing govt..nothing
i agree and the other reason is the brilliant Mehdi Hasan
As an Australian, I’m no fan of Chinese aggression, but it’s very hard to criticise China for its treatment of the Uyghurs when both Australia and the US have horrific records on the treatment of their Indigenous peoples. Australia locks up genuine refugees on remote islands as a deterrent to others wishing to escape oppression. The US had more than 1.5 million of its own people in prison in 2018 as part of a prison industrial complex relying on quotas being met to feed into the system. It’s hard to throw stones when we live in glass houses.
Why is it hard to criticise China, while you are already criticising Australia and the US? Shouldn't you treat them the same?
@@wcchu77 it seems to me that the western media focuses on critisizing China and forgets almost totally about what the Australia and the USA have done.
@@netterdrachen1687 No? US' ridiculous prison population gets talked about quite often.
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 any sanctions? No, nothing! And much less often.
@@netterdrachen1687 why would the west put sanctions on themselves?
My takeaways:
1. Biased moderator from the very beginning. Bombard only certain panelists with difficult questions...and keep questioning until you get an answer you want to hear. When panelist want to explain further, quickly cut him off and move on to the next set of questions. What's the point of having this session, if the objective is to stop discussions as soon as you reached your wanted conclusion. Such closed-minded session not only brings little value to viewers, but does a lot of harm.
2. Hats off to Charles and Victor for coming onto this show knowing full well of the hostile line of questioning. At certain parts, I couldn't distinguish if it was a moderator or interrogator speaking.
3. Total lack of self-awareness by the part of Al-Jazeera and MSM as a whole. So little discussion on real atrocities like the war on terror, Guantanamo Bay, Black Lives Matter, Julian Assange, etc. But so pumped up when it comes to China's every move.
Why is western trained show master always appears so aggressive? He does even not let people to finish their speech. It looks more like a cross-examination instead of a dialog😢
It is silly to criticize Charles Liu for being lack of emotions, just because the only way of debate you know of is to speak like the moderator. He kept his cool and conveyed his points effectively when being attacked, yes literally attacked by this moderator.
The host always interrupt others talking when words doesn't fit his so called "right direction". Doesn't his mom tell him it's not polite to interrupt others? Or among the 180 countries only chinese know its a basic politeness? This kind of people we usually comments He is poorly educated.
Very rude and arrogant host!
hes not lack of emotions lol, he's clearly trying to keep up the finesse with the attacks and lies released by the host, lol
@@Dylarck LOL lies?. There were actual victims questioning about the atrocities china implemented and committed. tell me the lie, he said?
@@danielnewton2735 can't agree more~! u really can say that again! the host is so rude!
Game theory learned. To begin with every question make an accusation(either it is true or false) and ask for your explanation. Take move A: Denial-you get a “public trial” Take move B: Explanation-you get to explain something it may never actually happened or a “public trial”.What a brilliant tactic
agree，totally nonsense
For the past 40 years, Chinese government's top priority is growth, in the process, the inequality grew with market growing, it's inevitable, it's happening all over the world, in the case, China is not exceptional. However, when Chinese government realised the problem, they started addressing it, that resulted capital escaping China. You can't blame Chinese government for increasing inequality and addressing increasing inequality at the same time.
The host is really fxx rude! When the Ang MOH talking, he never interrupted but when the Chinese spoke, he kept interrupting....
As an Indian I have seen in India that almost everyone praise the growth of China but no one wants to follow such hard policies and they start doing protest for everything.. We may have conflicts but we Indian can learn from Chinese growth
the thing is making comparison of two different policies under two total different cultural backgrounds is just neither wise nor precise
@@edwarddo8364 i may add, it's not just two, it's one chinese and over a thousand indisn cultures that's why India always lacks in following concrete policies because either the government sucks or a specific community will not find good for themselves in the democracy but anyway, india is growing in it's own pace with it's own policies but still I don't know why people compare these two countries just because they have large population, china is communist state where they can implement things more faster without considering opinions of different groups and in India every policy must include opinions of every community regarding that policy and even if one disagrees that policy will go into the dustbin.
@@danydash316 absolutely correct
we fight with each other for politicians.. & they’re become wealthy day by day
Large population with illiterate ones can be misutilized for all protests , that is the weakness of democracy.Unwanted Protests delays fast progress . China don't have this weakness , china was able to build massive infra because general population doesn't own lands , so no need of land acquisition at all in China.
I thought I watched a roast.
They got exposed
With a host that lean on one side, is a waste of life talking with him
I start to understand the format of this show. Usually in a political show you are supposed to invite guests from different perspectives and debate about an issue, but in reality this often end up being biased towards one side (sometimes to push for a certain agenda). This show is different as the only person being antagonized is the host himself. Everyone else actually is either neutral or on the guest's side. I think this kind of format is much needed in a world where people often live in an echo chamber and become more and more divided.
They might not come again for this kind of interview 😂😂
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*Charles Liu is an expert at avoiding answering the main substance of any question."*
He does answer them... with questions ;|
with very tactic skill and chalk the host into embarrassing
Repeatedly reminds me of Roger the Dodger
He's a communist China puppet a dog to be exact😁
Not really an expert if he flagrantly ignores them
其实不用解释，人民支持，国家发展，等到我们发展得更好，就没人会质疑了。少说多做，不要跟他们浪费时间，他们听不进去
The host is not asking questions but taking the opportunity to make his own statements attacking China and letting the guest speaker to perform with his show.
I never supported the question-attack-challenge-cut off style of interview until this one. I'm loving it.
This man tore apart Chinese!
And that’s a good thing?
He’s as unprofessional as the worst Fox News hosts.
Mr. Liu did excellent job. As a Chinese, we are so proud of him. Hopefully more and more people from Taiwan don't only think of themselves, but also think of all the Chinese people.............赞👍🏻
I am often moved by the statements made by Taiwanese people claiming to be Chinese，Thank you, my Taiwanese compatriots
this host keeps changing topics, didnt allow the guest to have more insights shared
"I have Uyghur friends", yeah and Adolft Hitler first girlfriend was Jewish....
go in f*** yourself
@@josephford8686 That's a smart reply.
@@josephford8686 Wow you're so confident behind your keyboard ;)
I’m sure all of hitlers first bad experiences involved a Jew no wonder he hated them
He didn’t make it into art school because a Jew took his place
Charles looks like he can't wait to get the fk out of there the whole time.
Swimming with sharks
He's still far better than Donald Trump. Imagine a man-child in the hot seat throwing tantrums hahaha.
@@Wannabe1979 C'mon - his vocals were calm sure but his answers showed a lot of discomfort and mild annoyance. (I don't blame him, I would have felt the same way).
@@teofilol2666 Ehh.....You're not wrong ...lol.
😂😂😂
5:27 his head down🤣 "Head to Hide" lol
UK people: Long live the queen! Long live the king, no one criticse about it lol....
"This is not my area of expertise..."
AKA "Please stop talking about this or I will end up in one of those camps tomorrow."
Typical bias. Liu came from what you called free world.
@@devinkim4588 Lol. You are so funny, bro.
@@devinkim4588 LOL, interesting one, you show the exact process of how fake news and rumours are produced. As a foreigner went to China several times (not only Beijing, Shanghai, but poorest rural area like Gansu) I never take remarks like yours as serious as B4, I indeed regard remarks like yours as bullshit.
@@devinkim4588 Totally agree
😂😂😂
Who is watching this during 2020 corona virus pandemic
I am watching wondering why I can not see a date on this video?also wondering why so many videos regarding China have not got dates .why is this ?
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@Shekhar I can understand you hate CCP because of your readings. but what to do with world peace? when was the last war CCP fought? 50 years ago? and during the time frame how many wars US government has been fought? almost every year.
@Shekhar no.1 dictatorship is different from dictatorship. chinese are overall satisfied with their system because their life have been getting better and better. secondly Covid19 further make them feel confident that the Western "model" US is failing to battle off the virus. they are far behind us.
@Shekhar all right, you seem to be very determine - they lie they cheat. let put aside their data. let assume the data cannot be trusted. I live in Shanghai, everyone are connected by WeChat with friends groups and family groups. you may say CCP block tons of messages... all right, I work for an American country called Dell EMC. there are thousands of employees in almost every cities around China. MS Teams and Skype are tools for internal communication. those are not sensored, at least not by CCP. Covid-19 is not a small topic people talked about nowadays. we maybe lucky. I haven't heard a single case. or someone mentioned a massive infection. We sometimes feel sick, and go to hospital. I don't see things out of normal there either. Now you tell me Mr Trump says China has way more infections then US because they lie about the data?
I am sure Mehdi knows the truth about the Uighurs, but he has to ask these questions as he is being paid to do so. Mehdi, if you do a little research yourself you will find these Uighurs are being trained up in Mandarin and other skills. Without Mandarin, these Uighurs are limited to within Xinjiang because outside Xinjiang you will need Mandarin in order to get a job. Just like a foreigner who doesn't speak English in England would be 'unemployable', English is essential in England just as Mandarin In China.
Mr liu did well. Moderator wasnt moderate. Most governments are corrupt but only in different ways
The only problem with Mehsi is that he never lets the guests speak, he speaks like he is the guest himself.
Even though, love his style.
Is that like talking to your wife? She is always right and she take the lead of any discussion. no meaning to talking to people like Mehsi
That is true
Fully agree with you. He has that bad habit of interrupting his guests just as they are making their points, specifically if the answers do not suit him. I've seen that in several of his interviews.
I disagree. He cut them off only when their answers are drifted or not addressing the question been asked.
Stop attrocities on Uighers, China
and christians and falun gong.
Chinese authorities burns Christian churches and tortures Christians .
so china should learn from USA, that is set a war to terrorists and kill them all?
Watching few minutes, I already started liking this guy. He is spot on with all his replies.
That interviewer act like there is no concentration camp in his country. He act like his country never commits any human rights violations around the world.
As a Chinese student, I just want to clarify that Xinjiang students has much lower requirement to enter wonderful universities.
Have
@@neldonah2833 thanks for correction. my bad English.
@@neldonah2833 yap that aint a big deal...every other countries have that consideration for marginalized regions.....the problem is that Holocaust you are trying to do...
Wow
And the human cost of communism there has been hundreds of millions
I think it’s very costly
@@mollymuch2808 There is no doubt that Xinjiang's development is not as good as Shanghai or Beijing these motropolis, because of some location and history reasons. I don't think it is a human cost to give more education chance for Xinjiangese. It is a embodyment of public resource allocation, which is part of government responsibility.
"They wish they had more money." Ouch.!
Arayan Ben you are such an ignorant garbage yourself,you have no brain to understand chinese.
Thats harsh to heard but mehh.. money can buy you funky toys but daring comes with balls BIG BALLS 😏😏😁
@@indianajones5929 well they did many times if you heard properly.
prince Xenophobic invader white i mean money can also buy better healthcare and social security, something India is in dire need of. Being an Indian myself Id rather have the people of my country have better wealth than bigger balls any day.
@angrykulla - toothpick is bigger to compare
这个傲慢与偏见的主持人对客人的基本尊重都没有，提问的言语间充满了恶意和攻击，这个主持人代表了整个英国的形象，他们除了傲慢无知之外已无其它，中国人民爱好和平，也会继续坚持和平友爱，中国人民完全相信中国政府对整个国家和人民付出的努力
To be honest, this was an undisguised media hit job. This is not journalism or designed to provide information, rather an opportunity to throw out predetermined conclusions
And now Global Times is complaining that India is increasing its defence budgets!!😂
India still does not spend enough to counter China.
I do not think an all-out war will occur but China will win the small battles.
@@khalilmohammadmirza4070 U said it reverses....China can win an all out war as of now, but not the small battles! If u wanna know why, just do some research...u will know!
And, yes we are not spending much, but it's the intent that matters....we r already spending the max possible, as per our GDP.
Hope they both keep increasing...our GDP as well as expenditure on military!
@@shivamdubey426 India lost depsang and they moved out the occupied kailash range go read subramanian swamy blogs instead godi media
@@khalilmohammadmirza4070 India does have agressive potential because Modi administration we can't do anything with it true our 20 soldiers died because they don't have only thing government is completely corrupt whether it is BJP or Congress Indian need to run by intellectual and strongest person to handle the situation
* Mobilising on Maximum millitary training combat
* Using appropriate startegy without media
* Taking Task doing Business with ease way doing
* Implementing strict policies
* Building Re Education centres for outsider whether it religious or economically
* Providing foreign agency in jobs
* Mobilising millitary technology and maximising millitary vehicles
* Banning Social Video like Twitter and Facebook
* Need to handle entire nation with totalitarian regimes.
* Walling border to neighbours.
* Changing living standards of nation throwing thrash cultures out of nation.
* Marking territory
@@sohailabdullah8376 I agree with you Brother
What kind of rock was I living under?
This is incredibly informative.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ same here🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍🙏🙏
Is it? I’ve just spent an hour listening to lies and avoiding questions on behalf of China’s CCP.
@@JJJ-ok7nc seems like that is what every guest does.
Chaina Hu Akbor
@@nobiimammahedi3206 hindu extremists. Rss goon spotted
How rude this moderator was. Looks like he is a lawyer and questions criminals in the court
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Thank you Aljazeera for asking tough questions.
Wish they could subject kenyan leaders on such forums,, even for once..
Jeff Halaschak Good luck to you.
Kevin Lee, BULLSHIT...
@Jeff Halaschak That's just your RACIST IGNORANCE and stupidity.... Get a life.
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I would prefer South Korea 🇰🇷 or Japan 🇯🇵 over China 🇨🇳
China is 💩
South Korea is racist so I wouldn’t
Yes they are free
we all do
@@ykmvp1870 they are maybe racist but they aint gonna kill
I like it when people sit down and have a conversation, well done guys both sides have the pros and cons, both sides can improve the world for all of us
Remember one world one people please 🙏
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"This will not be regarded well by the western press" "that's your definition of criticism of chinese government"
This is a good one!! cracked me up so bad!!!
Well, for a Chinese official and diplomat, it is criticism. In some countries, you're not allowed to even hint that you disagree with the ruler's decisions.
@@MoustafaAscoura1 Yeah, let be honest, at least in China you can enjoy more freedom than being in NKorea
@@gnehsaijuil That is hard one.
@@gnehsaijuil in China one can enjoy a safe society which even democratic America fails to provide .
@@gnehsaijuil power 〉money
i wish the USA was brave enough to have such an interview
Never...because EVEN the Citizens of US are AFRAID to know the TRUTH ..
@Franklin Holbrook Generalize much? Wow.
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Well when you have a leader like Donald Trump would you expect them to say
usa`s media system is to broken. They need an independent media supported by grants by the state at a fixed sum.
China's determination to keep improving itself which shows that China is fed up with the wars, chaos, sanction, and hardships that the western colonialism brought to the rest of the world in the past hundreds of year. Wise choice. Well done, China.
Even the Chinese is not proud of this