Will Fight With China Push India Closer To US? | Newstrack With Rahul Kanwal
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- In this exclusive India Today global conversation, Rahul Kanwal speaks with Kishore Mahbubani, FMR, President, UNSC, Prof. John J Mearsheimer, Political Scientist, and Samir Saran, President ORF on combating and containing the rise of China. A challenge that not only India but the whole world is grappling with. Watch to find out more.
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professor kishore mahbumani is always bold and clear .I never saw him so angry and assertive .Lots of love professor .
Kishore knows China thousand times better than the US guy who had the nerve to say that Kishore was dead wrong, how insulting!
@@sshong1553 John Meersheimer is a warmonger. USA wants to be the only leader in the world.
@@harryjessen US's last struggle to keep its USA exceptionalism, which translates into wars, killings, and subversions.
I get emotional too … the American guy is a typical American politician… poo poo stirring and evil .. horrible human being .. and he said himself .. he does not believe in “trust” …. It’s a horrible state of mentality …. SELFISH …..if India side with US … one day the whole QUAD will he used as a bargaining chip .. and hand out to dry when they need something from China or the RCEP … I hope John (the US) has no friends … because he does not believe in trust and will sell any friend for his own profit
china # 1
Ever wondered why India never released any videos on the deadly border incident? China recently released a video and it showed:
- Indian troops fully armed with riot gear and hand held weapons
- Indian troops swarming Ng across the river to begin the Attack
- 2 PLA soldiers unarmed and unequipped with protective gear tried to persuade the Indians to stop
- these 2 were the first to be attacked
So the Indians started the conflict but play victim
Notice that the moderator became very uncomfortable when Kisore pointed out that Modi said that China never crossed the line into India.
Please send the video link.
@@anona8211 ..please google it in TH-cam.
@@serasichongchinliong3450 what title is the video?
@@anona8211 ..Galwan Valley Clash
Indian should listen to Mr. Kishore I know in the heat of moment every Indian is angry with China but if India wants better future it should settle disputes with its neighbours, USA is only going to use India for its own benefits and will leave when needed.
I have never seen such a delicacy and strength of argument. Kudos to Prof. Kishore Mahbubani against these arrogant anti-china warmongers!
You sound like a pro-Beijing shill (which the hollering Kishore Mabhubani certainly is).
@@manofsan this comment section is full of Chinese paid shills
OMG, I never see Kishore Mahburani is so fired up. Kishore brings up a very good argument: PM Marendra Modi said no one entered India territory. That is another way saying India army was the intruder, the fight broke out on the Chinese side of LAC. Get it?
yes but people on here don't seem to get it. it's like their drunk on something
@@Amidat loony nationalists.
This is not a debate. The host and some of its guests are more interested in bashing Kishore . It's very clear what their agenda is right form. The beginning. The host has been nothing but insulting and condescending towards him right from the start. What a joke this whole thing is. Kishore is right to be furious.
Kishore is too shallow. Got exposed, therefore becomes extremely angry 😡
Asking confronting questions is not insulting or condescending in any way.
First time I see Kishore losing his cool. But as always, he is full of wisdom, I think the world will do better if the leaders read his books.
Kishore cannot handle the truth.
@@donaldjoseph3903 Or you can not handle the truth?
Kishore is a China spokesperson
@@blackmamba3427 it's easy to label when there is no compelling argument
@@st0rwing that's the way he is. You can keep good views of him to yourself.
The only reason China attained its rise is because it worked extremely hard at it. It has earned its right and that must be respected and India too can rise but not by trying to join the containment team of the loosers but by working just as hard.
Well said, @Khurram Shahzad.
Agree. Work hard, as well as work smart, right attitude and right ego.
I couldn't have said it better. West/America are evil, there must be other options. Hopefully India can see thru the evil, devious plan of the United States.
Well said and agree 100%. Did you ever hear China wanting to contain anyone? They just say we will work hard and improve and if you do too, we all can grow together and prosper. None of these you lose we win mentality of the West. Jealousy (The West, USA & India) and money plus power (MIC) is the root of their evils
Well said. The era of muscles and fists is gone. Here comes the era of the brains.
Kishore hit the nail on the head. India must think for India first, and not as an ally to this or that. And India must grow up.
Good suggestion because China can never grow up.
@@harir6316 China is still a child yet so capable. Imaging the days when China grow up. 🥰
Yes. Now China behaving like a big bully
With due respect to the participants on your show, they forgot the killings of human beings by USA in AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, VIETNAM, and KOREA will never be forgotten by Countries suffered at the hands USA. USA being a super power has lost every war they started. They had to pack up and leave Korea and Vietnam. They are stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The moderator is supposed to moderate, not gang up with the other two, perhaps he's afraid of the Hindu nationalists targeting him. 1 vs 3 debate is unfair by any standard but Kishore did an awesome job.
I agree 👍 💯.. India should have more pro China moderators and guests on its programs.
@@donaldjoseph3903 I would prefer an impartial moderator over a pro or anti-China moderator.
Kishore sounded like a sepoy who works for Chinese masters, especially when he got shrill.
@@manofsan Kishore is internationally known for being pro China and anti Western. It's his choice. He sees merit in it.
@Donald Joseph - it's his choice to be a sepoy who aggressively toadies for China. He's just padding his own sinecure from his Singaporean masters, and reflects their views slavishly. He imagines himself to be more silver-tongued than he actually is, and the holes in his arguments are as obvious as those in swiss cheese.
I respect Kishore, and I think he is right
Very clearly, the 2 Indians are very much driven by emotion, impulsiveness and pre-conceived notions whereas Kishore talks facts, data and rationale. The white chap's agenda is obviously to antagonize and inflame the situation, to divide and conquer. Kishore is a Singaporean of Indian ancestry. He was Singapore's ambassador to the US n United Nation, President of the UN Security Council, Dean of Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy in Singapore. He's one of Singapore's foremost strategic thinker trusted and respected by Lee Kuan Yew. He certainly knows what he's talking about. Being from Singapore, Kishore does not take sides when asked for his views on geopolitic matters. He speaks his mind n what he believes is true. Kishore has learnt much from Lee Kuan Yew who will tell you what he believes is true, not what you want to hear. Lee too posseses incredible political foresight and international leaders including every sitting US president had sought his views and opinion on world affairs especially on China. Kishore also enjoys a strong reputation for his knowledge n wisdom on international relations. The best universities, think-tanks, eminent academics n politicians have been seeking his counsel because they see the value and merits in his advice.
Well said my brotha'
That's is what a diplomat is for - to resolve conflict (Kishore is a master); unlike the other two who are emotional power war mongers (probably didn't graduate from diplomacy school)
Kishore has a hard time because the rest are experts who know what they are talking. Kishore rings hollow before these experts who speak the truth.
@@donaldjoseph3903 Don't invite yourself into the dialogue if your iq is below 90...as it is clearly evident in your prose and the ideas you attempt to express.
Very clear Chinese are driven by insecurity complex that they want to take revenge for what Japan did long back.
This type generic idiotic statements anybody can make like you have made.
It has nothing to do with emotion. India's strategic interests are not aligned with China.
"Your prime minister had said no Indian territory had been taken". One line from Kishore completely devastates Rahul and permanently puts him in his proper place making him a complete idiot. Just look at his face - utterly speechless! That's what happens when a half-baked rookie who doesn't know what he's talking about takes on a learned professor.
Actually, he is a pretty decent media anchor. But I guess he is just too afraid of the hawkish Indian nationalists who can be pretty ruthless and therefore, cannot speak his mind. Anyone in the Indian media who advocates for dialogue and engagement with China or Pakistan is immediately branded a "traitor" and your life can be under threat. Media people have died in India over these sort of things. It's not even a joke. I think this media anchor has just kowtowed to the Hindu ultranationalist thugs who have unfortunately managed to hijack geopolitical discourse in Indian civil society out of fear for his own safety. Can't blame him for that.
China is forging economic partnerships with ASEAN, Africa, Central Asian republics, Russia, Africa and the EU through the Belt and Road initiative. By neglecting to participate in BRI and RCEP (Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership), India appears to be well-focused on containing its own rise.
India only want partnership with english speaking countries and doesn’t wanna humble and very confused how to picks or manages strategy only they want how to defeated China and taking over number one spot with short cut I would say good luck in the future and keeps dreaming.
@@stephanchan1660 It is just simple. Multilateral trade deals is less useful to India from past experience.
We prefer bilateral trade deals. It has nothing to do with English speaking countries.
Last thing we want is trade deal with China in it.
@@harir6316 There's no such thing as multilateral trade deals are less beneficial. Almost all trade is good -it is positive sum game.
@@dreadfulbodyguard7288 Trade deal is good or not is based on countries competitive advantages.
India's exports are mostly in services. Most trade deals focus on goods. The past FTAs record shows most trade deals causes deficit.
So it is much better to do a trade deal with countries when it is advantageous to us.
Also having trade deal is simply idiotic.
They act mostly against our national interest. Trade and security go together.
It is a lot more complex than thinking that all trade deals are good.
@@harir6316 Which field of goods American are not in Indian soil and think of Indian merchandise in the US? Learn how to get rid of US hegemony and bully will help India in the long run!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kishor understand China better as he researches China everyday. Not like the US guy who wish to see the conflict between China and India. That would be tragic.
He is just a realist
It wouldn't be pretty for anyone but this is inevitable
Just cuz India and China are in the same continent doesn't mean that they like each other or that china sees India as an equal partner
Neocons are running amok in the US!!!
I m with Kishore Madhubani statement that India should do on its own rather than taking help from other countries.
I never see mr.kishore so angry.he is calm figur
I have never seen Kisore this mad! Mearsheimer is supposed to be an academic but he here acts more like a diplomat trying to pull India into the US side. The other Indian guy, well I can understand where he is coming from. But the moderator completely failed in his role, he made this “discussion “ three against one.
US simply cannot accept any other countries getting stronger (last time was Russia and Japan. Now is China. Future will be India). Surprisingly see Prof Kishore lost his temper but you are one of my most admire figure.
Because he is at the Indian side but the Indian guy is stubbornly not understanding it.
Mr. Kishore, take care and stay healthy.
Poor Kishore. Come to China, u are welcome. Also welcome to Indian friends to visit China. Peace is important for commoners, do not get manipulated by politicians.
I would vote for Mr Mahbubani for US president in a heart beat. He's the most articulate, intelligent person out there.
Am reading Mr Kishore's book. An eye opener.
Sameer Saran is talking from both sides of his mouth, on one hand he says every country should pursue its own interest and India will do the same. So why complain when Pakistan and China choose to pursue their own interest with each other?
Cuz they collide with indian's interest
Do you think Chian and Pakistan like India-US alliance?
Just look at the AUKUS China went crazy for those submarines
@@ram-lj9kz China goes crazy you say? Those submarines won't be ready until 2040 for crying out loud. That's 20 years from now! China will be so far ahead by then. LOL
@@byrds2011 the submarines are already there
The US gives its own untill they are ready
It's basically as if Australia already has them
@@ram-lj9kz no such case, anyway you believe what you want.
Salute to Prof. kishore for enduring that BS
Let India live in its own dream for another 10 year.
Support Kishore all the way.
Kishore Mahbubani speaks sense and has a pragmatic view on India China relationship. One point which is obvious is that, India has to grow in all respect and protect its own interests first before entering into any ally with others... A very nuanced aporoach from India is expected in these difficult times...
Mearsheimer conveniently left out the realities of the past. US did not win WW2, the Russian did by beating back Nazi Germany. The US did not win the Korean War, China did by beating back the UN forces led by the US. Who beat the Japanese? The Chinese did by beating back the Japanese and thereafter the US dropped two bombs into Japan and claimed victory. Japan was beaten by then but the US nevertheless dropped those bombs to scare the Russians. Mearsheimer is playing a mind game by encouraging India to fall into the US orbit when India is allemotionalabout the conflict with China. That would be a tragic mistake for India. Mahbubani is correct to suggest India should manitain its non-alignment principle and do what's best for India. As it is, India aligning with US had already aroused the suspicion of the Russians who have had friendly relations with India for many decades.
The US had always made use of the divide and rule tactic and dumped the country when their use is no more relevant to the US. To wit: US made use of Iran until the fall of the Shah. Likewise, US supported Iraq and Saddam Hussain and got it to fight Iran which ended in ruins for both. What happened then? US is off to do other damage to maintain its global hegemonic primacy. Does US ever won any war? In Afghanistan, after 20 years, it had to negotiate with the Taleban, so did US won? Likewise in Iraq, US have now been told by Iraq to get out. How about Vietnam? Well did US won or lost? The Quad is a joke, why bother to bring that up? India should draw lessons from history. The more immediate one is how US through Kissinger and Nixon secretly contacted China to established relation with them. The objective? To contain Soviet Union and put a wedge between China and Russia. Today, China has caught up and in US mentality, pose a peer threat. You are now watching how US fabricate lies and create conflicts to contain China. US did the same to Japan when Japan was in the ascendant. US could restrain Japan because they were Japan's master having dropped 2 atomic bombs on them but US cannot and will not be able to contain China.These are not speculations but historical facts like it or not.
I look down this anchor because he pushes his position at the opening and closing statements. Why not let audiences decide which panelists they are believed in?
Rahul, John, and Saran in favor of Indo-US alliance VS Kishore for strategic autonomy for Indian
And where you stand Mr Mehmood
India is not going to gain anything from US by being its running dog!!!EU does not gain cheaper oil from the US when Russia oil/gas are cheaper!!!! One should understand this!!!!
Your Prime Minister Has said that no Indian territory has been taken😅 Mr. Kishor It's Was Excellent
Among the three selfish ones, Mr. Kishore is the only one who speaks rationally and impartially ... You have won Mr. Kishore
F....k...ing Indians Never Understand That Mr. Kesor What Try To say.....
India Have To Understand......
America can never be a good friend, as it has been proven once again in the case of Galwan and Ladakh incidence...
I personally want China and India to rule the world together
Love From Bangladesh 🇨🇳🇮🇳
@Kishore : I hate you because you always talk TRUE 🙏Thanks my dear fellow Indian
the us worried about it cann't contain china by himself, so he courage the other nations to fight with to maintain theus's interest. so funny.
In my assessment India had accepted the role to disrupt BRI & CPEC in line with wishes of competing western powers, accordingly embarked on military preparations in Ghalwan valley with potential to disrupt KKH - through heliborne operations. Indian military buildup in Ghalvan valley, a serious step in present day GREAT GAME full of repercussions in our region. Do not mess with china, instead concentrate on poverty alleviation within borders - McMohan line drawn unilaterally during British rule has never been accepted by China, so you have to draw mutually agreed demarcation of the boundaries.
China will not allow this misadventure.
Luckily, they've moved on.
Lol its the other way around. Don’t lie about build ups we got the satellite images who has more build ups near border.
Kishore seems very much speaking the truth..., past, present and future view
If,a very big IF, India can overcome their hatred for China,the virtue of it will make India a great nation!
What’s the reason for the Us interrupt Asia business? If there is a war between CHN and INA,what will the US do?sell weapon?After the war what will be left for both people?
Useless anchor! Almost uses the same "Arnab" style moderator approach with an international panel.
Kishore Mahbubani is after all Indian from heart and he talks sense.
I think India will becoming second largest economy in the world, I can't imagine what US do to India of the prospect becoming number three. India should keep calm and drink coffee and think best interest of itself by balancing relationship not just only US but China also. India should reflect in the past 2 years why China becoming aggresive toward India.
Mr.Kishore Mahubani is of Indian descent. He will never want India bad...Seeing the mentality of the Indians, I understood that the radish that America hung in the name of super power has started working in front of India🤣
With due respect to Rahul Kanwal, when you invite seasoned people to your show, the least you could do is try to be not provocative. This is not a war for one side to win and for another to lose. It’s just an intellectual conversation. Please be respectful to everyone even if they are seemingly incorrect and let them correct themselves.
Ccp slave was abusing the American professor
@@viharamonastry ..three vs one. One won with facts and figures.
If fighting between Dragon and Elephant, who is happy, the eagle.
The dragon needs to ensure no fight but, as it has bigger responsibility
INDIA TRYING TO FUEL A FIGHT BETWEEN CHINA & THE US FOR PERSONAL GAIN
Dragon exist only in fantasyland
Jai Chhabra India shall join the US against the China Pak nexus. Death to CCP
The eagle wasn't happy when the dragon attacked the elephant.
We were happy when the dragon became best friends with the hyenas because everyone knows elephants hate hyenas.
Kishore Mahbubani got the point,Inidan has been insulted by the West for 200 years, and he is still respectful to the West today，just look at Africa ,with their ability ,their can help Africa get out of pooverty.both India and Africa just tools for western ,don't fall into that trap
It is due to the caste system culture that Indians adore the "perceived" higher caste.
I am here to give Mr Kishore 100 like, because he is just. For MrJohn his idea is partial, denied the truth.
Me too.
how can i be a ccp troll ? :)
Me too. I came for Kishore Mahbubani.
Mehbubani has a point!
KISHORE SIR GOOD POINT OF VIEW I AM HAPPY THAT THERE IS SOMEONE WHO THINKS ABOUT FUTURE
You mean Lunatic?
@@ShSh-xi4rd kishore is very smart guy. he just lost a bit here i think
Yes his theory of peaceful Chinese rise was dusted by xi jinping war mongering... His entire career was washed hence fiercely battling for his career lol 😂😂 xi jinping crushed his theory
If there is a war it will not be on the territories of Japan, Australia or USA.Does India wish to become another Pakistan ???
Well done, Mr Kishore. For your sanity and health, please stay away from such media.
he's brave to go 3 against 1
Yes specially this bias host Rahul
@@michaelteng6076 he’s Not fit at all, uttering nothing substantial but garbage and baseless accusations against China forcefully without even a shred of evidence! When Kishore was saying india pm maintained that China did not at any time entered India territory, this rude host instantly thumped Kishore down before he could elaborate further. He’s definitely not cut out to be one simple anchor man but a stinking warmonger!
@@kccher6197 Agree with you absolutely
Kishore was right that China was number 1 in the world for over 1800 years except since 200 years ago when the West started to get ahead because of colonialization and technology advancement. China to be number 1 in the world in terms of economy is just a matter of time. US will not happy to see a strong China and therefore will do her best to prevent China from becoming the number 1 power. India has always been friendly with US and the European powers due to her ambition to become a permanent member of the Security Council of the United Nations. However, if India does not eliminate her caste system, no country in the world will want to accept India as their leader.
"Her" Caste system?
do you think that caste system , the way it is, was our own system to divide people?
@@KunalSaini97 it was the indo-aryans system 2000+ years ago and for some unknown reason y’all kept it.
Harijanto sepang, Chinese civilisation went way back to King Wen of the Zhou Dynasty - 5000 B. C.King Wen consulted the I Ching - Book of Changes, proved the Wave Theory and quantum physics in the hexagrams of the I-ching....
As a Chinese ethnic residing in Malaysia, i would like to see China help India with their problem. That is the righteous value in which taught by our ancestors - 以德报怨
But ccp has destroyed their own cultural values when communism took over. What righteous values are you talking about?
@@Anuj10_01 you might not know much about China. What values did the CCP destroy? Be specific. Here, I can share a few core values in which the Chinese are practising all this while - meritocracy, benevolence, and respect towards other nations. For a recent example, the generous offer to assist India on the shortage of oxygen for hospitals despite Indian's emotional attitude towards China on border crisis.
Mr Kishore says forget about border,think about environment what a funny man he is , typical communist &universal citizen !
@肖杰 loool
Very right Mr. Nair !👍
You guys forgot China and Russia as a block.
Kishore looks like has studied China strategies very well. Perhaps he is talking about history before it Happens. But oh boy the world history is full of Surprises.
@XX Indians are not duplicitous like Chinese.
After looking at Kishore,
Please don't disagree with the people with heart attack risk 😂
You will have heart attack.
the fact Indian media had to have 3 people go against him in a debate he handled himself very well.
Kishore cannot handle the truth
He is right that emotion is running too high, seeing the anti comments.
Kishore is the few thinker in this region. If politicians in Asia listened to him, the unjust world order with the old colonial powers at the peak is to be changed. Indian and China should learn to control their problem and work together. Otherwise, Asia is to continute to be controlled and exploited by the US and other advanced countries.
Respect to Kishore!
USA # 1
Only Kishore talks with a logic and his point of views are to the point and very true
How much do you get paid monthly ?
A point of view that is worth 50 cent
Prashanth B most likely 50 cent
@@prashanthb6521 nothing, i dont know about yours
Totally agree with Kishore, you hit the nail on the head
This is the first time I have seen such an sensible, blunt political debate on India Today channel. Neither the host nor the guests were driven by emotion or impulse. I have never heard of Mr. Mahbubani, where was he educated and is he Indian citizen? He is unbelievably calm, intelligent.
Singaporean citizen but he was ccp slave while he worked as unsc representative from Singapore
@@viharamonastry I'm seeing comments that accuse Kishore of being pro-China, a china apologist, a paid wumao of ccp etc. Meanwhile, some of the best universities, think-tanks, strategic affairs experts, eminent academics have been inviting him to share his deep and wide knowledge, experience n wisdom on China. In every speech and interview he gave, he has been very consistent in his views and opinions on China. By the definition of these commentators, shouldn't these organizations and individuals who hv been seeking to hear his so called 'pro-China' views be also labeled the same way they hv labeled Kishore??? By throwing derogatory names at someone for holding opposing views, for saying hard truths because he truly believes in them, for telling them things they don't like to hear, it speaks volume of these commentators character n exposes their childishness, immaturity, insecurity and ignorance. It doesn't matter what these morons are calling him, what truly matters is that governments, universities, think-tanks etc. around the world see the value and merits in what he has to share to continue to seek his wise counsel.
Kishore is a Singaporean of Indian ancestry. He was Singapore's ambassador to the US n United Nation, President of the UN Security Council, Dean of Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy in Singapore. He's one of Singapore's foremost strategic thinker trusted and respected by Lee Kuan Yew. He certainly knows what he's talking about. Being from Singapore, Kishore does not take sides when asked for his views on geopolitic matters. He speaks his mind n what he believes is true. Kishore has learnt much from Lee Kuan Yew who will tell you what he believes is true, not what you want to hear. Lee too posseses incredible political foresight and international leaders including every sitting US president had sought his views and opinion on world affairs especially on China. Kishore also enjoys a strong reputation for his knowledge n wisdom on international relations. The best universities, think-tanks, eminent academics n politicians have been seeking his counsel because they see the value and merits in his advice.
India been close to the United States even before this happened. The United states would love to have India as it’s doormat just like the British did.
@Chirag Patel
We beg USA FOR VISAS . WE ARE NOT DIPLOMATIC BUT BEGGARS SADLY
GIVING THEM IMPRESSION THEY CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT INDIANS
INDIA TRYING TO FUEL A FIGHT BETWEEN CHINA & THE US FOR PERSONAL GAIN
India 🇮🇳 needs to be strong and secure and stand alone,, trust yourself,, the Buddha is smiling ☺ 🕉
Jai Chhabra I agree!!!
India today should publish a transcript of this debate - this is very useful for scholars who are keen on studying Indo -china in the 21st century
Ironically, Dr Kishore's undignified rants on this India Talk Show has brought more people to his viewpoint than in a traditional lecture hall!
You guys need to learn how to live peacefully with your neighbors if you really wants to prosper and compete
Practice what you preach
Mahbubani is great......100% true.
Definitely... Its suits you.
@@dchanda9522 .....bro, it suits the whole asia. USA never wants transfer of power to asia.
Strong points all around! Kishore’s emphasizes every nation should look after its own interest comes deep from his belief of every person to look after his individual interest.. I can see the strong business self promoting side of him.
USA # 1
Why Rahul so keen for War at time when we are not prepared.
Learn from China how to become powerful with Investment from all its enemies.
I agree with John Mearsheimer for his sound analysis in a gentle way for human sensitivity and natural aliance for survival. Well done
India must act based on past US history in dealing with other nations. US means business goal not other party's long interest.
Of course, you are a Chinese bot. Why commenting on US platform?
Why ?Because the Trump will roll from stage. We just disgust Trump. His will lose the president.
Kishore Mahbubani's participation could have been constructive if he were not to have been defending the contents of his book. Vested interest!
@Pissu Nethinam Shoke Mahbubani will be out of the game very soon.
John is a wise man. Very rational.
China offered India a joint One Belt option but it was declined in the deep rooted hatred against Pakistan. Now I think China has every right to protect her interests. For India the only way out is peaceful reapproachment with China less they keep losing territorial options.
I say we boost our economy, military, and people of India who are no less than other country. More the economy grows people will respect us.
What a phenomenal panelist..Hope to see more vibrant talks like these top minds
3 against 1 is not a good debate
@@Amidat Hear, hear
As a moderator he should stay neutral and learned how to be quite.
GautamGunjan It'd be good for Asia if you throw out your empty bombasts and listen to the issues.
Both India and China together can rise and change the world.
@darsh mart I am Indian. There are lot of common men who think like that. At present a minority voice of course.
Kishore just realised he’s not on Arnabs channel...😂😂
Yes ..there’s no thing called trust in global politics..India should build itself up atleast to protect intself from China or any outside force and not rely on USA or any other country..
Samir is perfectly right it is China to decide and not twist India's arm
Waiting for China to make the next move? I beg India will do something first, and hopefully fire the first shot and see how China will react. Yes India whole world is looking at you!
@fireflies543 china land... Nice commedy...
@Ashish Bagade they killed 20 of your soldiers with baseball bats, and kidnapped your soldiers, injured over 60 other soldiers, and they have not moved from the area, so ya India didn't do anything that's why international media is saying India is scared of retaliating
@@haidera9921 factually incorrect on so many levels. Satellite images have shown that China is not occupying Indian territory. International media is projecting higher casualties on the Chinese side. And which international media has said that India is scared of retaliating? British media reported the incident as India having fought back and global powers have extended support to India.
This is not right, all whole thing starts with India built the road. Anyway, I think a war is inevitable by listening Samir.
Overall i like the discussion,very interesting
You tried your best Kishore. Unfortunately, Indian media and US analysts bullshit too much... Kishore is the only rational realist in this debate.
In the near term India needs to ensure allied relationships get stronger, USA, UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea and some southeast Asian countries come to mind. Meanwhile in the midterm, alongside these cultivated relationships, India needs to strengthen from the Inside to ensure if any of its new found close friends decide to jump ship, India would still be able to stand alone. Basically, get strong economically, militarily, culturally and continue to make friends with who is willing to help. India needs to be very careful and ready to pivot when needed.
@ R M this is exactly what Mr Kishore Mahbubani is indicating. People in the comment section don't seem to grasp the deeper meaning of what Kishore is talking about.
South Korea is not going join with India against China. And US/UK/Aus will drop India as soon as India (if) it gets strong. Don't you see that South Asia is turning against you and toward China also??? If you were smart you would work with China. Japan can't stand on it's own specifically because the US controls what it does. India would end up the same way.
Why would any rich country want to alliance themselves with a poor country .
USA, UK, Australia, Japan and South Korea?? really want them as friends? The first 3 don't respect you as they are white supremacist powers, Japan and S Korea are servants to USA. Don't fool yourself, get your mind out of colonial bondage.
Rm Sounds cunning.. and sadly brain washed.
Kishore: "If I were an Indian, I would ask myself why China's GDP is 4 times the size of India..." man, that hurts...
Because we can't just shoot people like tianmen if they protest low wage or workers right
@@ramraghuwanshi2562 but you shoot Muslim within your country
@@fredgan8850 they are meant to be killed if they pose threat to internal security of India but we don't shoot them, look at CAA protests,Hijab Protest,etc. so one gets shot even when they burn public property in name of peaceful protest.
look at the population of muslims when India gained Independence and NOW...muslim population grew by 32.7%...so don't come with bullshit on internet.
While all the panelists are confident about their points of view and no one is gonna change the others' positions, China is simply ignoring all those noises negative about it and focusing its time and energy on building itself like what it has been doing in the past forty years. Debate doesn't help anything in getting countries better and stronger coz politicians have done more than any panelists already. If you just enjoy yourself in a sentiment of Anti China and not concentrate on hard work, you are going to get disappointed again and again.
Absolutely John is correct. India needs to follow the idea of John.
hongkong and taiwan is totally different situation from the border with india. all the people knows what he really means.
There is no quiet adjustment between Japan and China....... if that was so, why has Japan joined The Quad ?! Moreover, Japanese people protested about Xi’s visit to Japan recently which was postponed indefinitely. Boy, how glib is Kishore with his sophistry !
India's concern are legit. But, Japan to china!! Oh man, Worst brutal attrocities done by Japan on china. Germanysaid sorry to rest of the world and even paid reparations. Japan reluctant to acknowledged their deeds even today
rishi kshetry : Agreed that Japan is culpable about war on China but China is no angel - look what they are doing to Uyghurs.
I felt pain in my ears while listening to Kishore.
@Adam LB He also quoted Narendra Modi.
Truth always hurts.
accept earlier laudeee u are only beggars
@Adam LB Kishore is not Indian or American
Nothing would make the Americans / Trump's America first administration more happier than seeing India and China go to war over the border dispute. If the ruling class in both india and china can't cool their head and cool their own nationalism, and find a way to settle the border dispute, then it will be the most tragic thing ever happen to people in both countries. To those nationalists on both sides who keep pushing your government to go to war with the other, you need to stop being a keyboard warrior and join the army, then you're qalified to say anything like that. In modern warfare, one bomb can kill thousands and millions of people, all those who argue for war are just plain stuipid. If both indians and chinese insist the disputed border areas are "my territory and you can't be here", then the solution will never be found. There is a reason those are disputed because of historical reasons, people today need to be smart and find a middle ground and settle the dispute, and pave the way for both largest nations to co-exist peacefully for the next two thousand years.
I found this conversation informative. I wonder whether further tensions between India and China have implications for BRICS
Obviously, Some Speakers here haven't enough historical and international knowledges.pls try to know, the bias and injustice attitude to China Will result in not only hurting China but also hurting your india too.And you can see the westerners and Asian speakers have different view about Asian affairs. Why?Because Asian people love asia and westerners don't.
truely said sadly indians are self brainwashed to hate China
It is hard to believe that mehbubani is author. He is preposterously changing focus from on hand threat with cooperative issues.
exactly I had great regard for him...now he is acting like a Chinese agent
@@DT-eg4ip please don't interchange of words, that are vital, agent to stooge, agents are far more respectable then sit down duck kind of stooges sitting in comfort of third to third nation. I am Sindhi whose great grandmother and great grandfather migrated to hindia. But I still owe my aligience to my mother land. However he odd named must have forgotten sitting in plush space of Singapore.
If a chaiwala can have a masters degree then anything is possible, only difference is Kishore's speech is not written by someone else.
@@kamkala7047 so where is the problem, can someone from humble background can't be a post graduate? Khala Khalid
Nothing would make the Americans / Trump's America first administration more happier than seeing India and China go to war over the border dispute. If the ruling class in both india and china can't cool their head and cool their own nationalism, and find a way to settle the border dispute, then it will be the most tragic thing ever happen to people in both countries. To those nationalists on both sides who keep pushing your government to go to war with the other, you need to stop being a keyboard warrior and join the army, then you're qalified to say anything like that. In modern warfare, one bomb can kill thousands and millions of people, all those who argue for war are just plain stuipid. If both indians and chinese insist the disputed border areas are "my territory and you can't be here", then the solution will never be found. There is a reason those are disputed because of historical reasons, people today need to be smart and find a middle ground and settle the dispute, and pave the way for both largest nations to co-exist peacefully for the next two thousand years.
Kishore is Chinese stooge.
If he is namardh narendra is bigger stooge who is begging from china for peace
Modi just gifted 60 km of Indian land to china...
@@thomasranjit7781 here comes one more pappu rahul 😂🤣,india never lossed any territory in modi government ,india lossed land in congress ruling time
The way rahul kanwal cuts the argument of a panelist is really disturbing
India shouldn’t let itself be a pawn for the US Empire. They could care less if your country is destroyed in a war. The US would consider that “collateral damage” in their cynical power game.
On of the best debates I have seen in recent times. Very balanced & very informative. Well done Rahul.
Yes, well done Rahul.
Informative, yes. Balanced? Depends on your perspective.
Balanced?🤭🤭🤭
how can 3 against 1 be "balanced"?
John Mearsheimer is DELIGHTED. This host is not neutral, his “questions” already contain his biased stance. This is not up to journalism standards.
AMAZING SEEING KISHORE LOSING HIS COOL WHILE JOHN KEEPING HIS!.
That's the difference between an intellectual and a fool
He is acting idiot thats how you go on indian news
He hate white people colonist run his country for hundred yrs. Another hand it show how much he love Asia and his country.
He suggest joining the China clan which includes N. Korea and Russia.
Wow....
John Mearsheimer on india Today
Samir saran is all over the place. This is not a discourse. Kishore is excellent and John is bias
Once a chinese man saw moon outside his house. Next day the chinese lay claim that the moon was theirs. Get rhe idea. Ultimately they will meet their match.
True in a very long term,but for now it is clear that both USA and its friends have met their match -and are doomed unless they mend their ways.
If you want a fair and honest discussion, first of all choose a referee who is non-Indian, non-Chinese and non-American. Agree?
Kishore is the best no doubt